SWEDISH VIKINGS

The vikings left for Normandy and left behind a bunch of lanky fags.
>t. Norman

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>>131054045
tolerance and diversity

The vikings stopped being vikings a 1000 years ago. All thanks to Christianity

>>131054045
It's not about superiority even. Surely there are plenty of trashy "Whites" that must be sterilized. It's about our people being our people. one life of low iq Irish drunk worth all of Asia

>>131054045
There is no such thing as swedish vikings

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>>131054808
And now that Christianity is dead in Sweden it's time to revive our Viking spirit, because at least we still have our genetics. :^)

>>131054045
i think russians had them too
they where called 'bogatir' or something

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>>131055072
Im sure you're more arab than norseman, sven ibn abdullah.

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>>131054045
Ahmed, aren't you late for smelling the anus prayers?

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>>131055072
viking genetics? he? has no chin

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>>131055418
A lot of people "Had" Vikings

Normans were primarily Danes. Danes saw success before their settlement in Normandy with Danelaw, raids in the Mediterranean, and settlements in Iberia/Italy.
Norwegians were sucky vikings that "raided" bishops and monks.
Swedes were never vikings.

Tell me, which Scandinavians are the best?

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>>131055729
Who lived in Scandinavia before the eight century?

>>131055899
It says that because that was when the viking age began, and those were the places we owned.

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>>131055867
France disagrees

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>>131056268
You just don't understand modern art. They were just ahead of their time.

>>131056254
I already mentioned Normans.
Rollo was said to be a northmen/viking. Is there historical evidence as to whether or not he came from Norway?
The majority of the people that settled in Normandy were from what is now Denmark. It is only natural, then, to consider Rollo himself a Dane.

>>131056588
That is from the Bronze age, more than a thousand years before the Viking age

>>131055974
I hope you kept the receipt...

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>>131054045
>SWEDISH VIKINGS

Like these?

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>>131055974
http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/articles/the-ancient-celts-and-vikings-were-black-people-by-dr-clyde-winters/

>>131055867
Who knows, most of the information we have about the vikings were written by the people that were raided by them.

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>>131057091

Like these

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>>131057257

Sure this Sven Al Mohammed

Vikings?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjCdB5p2v0Y
>"///ourguys///"

>>131055072
>still have our genetics

Kek, nice one

>>131054045
>superior
The island of Great Britain is chock full of viking mass graves. Every time they made a mistake of not limiting themselves to pushing around women, children, elderly and the lame in remote fishing villages, vikings got their sorry proto-swecuck asses handed to them.

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>>131057716
Swedish Vikings, the ones going west were Norwegians and Danes.

>>131054517
Whoever made that picture screwed up. 'N-word Killer Death Squad' would be much funnier

>>131055867
Kek

>There are about 3,000 runestones in Scandinavia (out of a total of about 6,000 runic inscriptions).

>The runestones are unevenly distributed in Scandinavia: The majority is found in Sweden, estimated at between 1,700 and 2,500 (depending on definition). Denmark has 250 runestones, and Norway has 50.

>>131057932
Ah, those. True, true. We know today that vikings would sometimes bring along swedish 'men' a.k.a. the shieldmaidens but it wasn't nearly as common as Xena warrior princess fanboys would like it to be.

>>131057932
>Norwegians and Danes
You mean the only vikings that ever did anything?
Danelaw, Normandy, Sicily, Rurik. All Danish. What did Swedes do? Kick some Finnish ass after it converted to Christianity and sat on it's butt for hundreds of years?
>>131058148
You're only assisting my point. Swedish "vikings" sat and did nothing while Danes were out actually shaping history.

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The current situation and development of Europe will force the northern countries to unite under Scandinavia again. Shit like norsemen raiding doesn't simply go away with time. It is dormant within our blood. There only needs to be a trigger to set it off.

Pic related will happen again.

>>131057129
post more gustav

>>131058148
>Muh runestones

>>131058406
We discovered Iceland, Greenland & North America bitch.

>Danelaw, Normandy, Sicily, Rurik. All Danish.
Are these like really significant somehow?

>>131058584
>It is in our blood
>has no go zones filled with mudshits in major cities

Yeah, no, your bloodline is weak, and you have proven it. Now Denmark, that is a whole different story, at least they have balls unlike you.

>>131058801
>We
You aren't a viking.
You sound completely ignorant of history. The house of Normandy isn't significant? The Kievan Rus' state isn't significant either?

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>>131054045
Swedes weren't Vikings though

>>131059079
>The Kievan Rus'
Literally never heard of it

>>131058998
You literally worship a jew. 98% of Christians today are nonwhite subhumans.

Latvia, atheist nation. State funded NatSoc parade. Beat and kill nonwhite tourists for fun. How can christian subhumans even compete?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gYbRT1nmOw8

Fuck Jesus, Heil Hitler!

>>131059079
Whatever faggot we were in all the places you've talked about so far i don't understand where you get this idea it was only Danish

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>>131054045
>swedish vikings

>>131059128
Nortard confirmed

>>131059208
>Getting this triggered by a flag

Whoa there lad, you sure got me.

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>>131055867
Vikings isn't our best fighting force

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>>131059454
Viking managed to get into Russia and beyond, those muppets died near Finland, how can they even compete?

>>131059327
I almost thought he was throwing a peace sign. Kek

>>131059079
>>131058998
Where's your evidence this was only Danes anyway?

>>131054045

>Sweden
>Vikings

>>131054240

Normans were Danish and Norwegian.

>>131057632
Is this degenerate ?

>>131059654
Sorry, Danes and Norwegians. Sweden does not even fall into the same category.

>>131059434
I hate your religion and your pathetic kind. Extermination of Christians is something even anti-soviet Russians truly do like

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>>131059554
Being one of the biggest empires in Europe with only 4 million population and constantly winning battles when we were deeply outnumbered.

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>>131059454
I agree, the Swedish Empire is the best example of what Sweden should wish to become now.
This viking delusion will gets you nowhere. How strange that Swedish people can forget more recent history in favor for a fantasy.
>>131059554
>those muppets died near Finland
Ironic considering that Medieval Christian Sweden took hundreds of years to defeat unorganized Finnish Pagans.
>>131059654
I never said ONLY Danes, but all historical sources point towards them being majority Danish. The thought of a "northmen" came from the Danes, and most Norwegian vikings were just Danish people that continued migrating north.
Really, it's nothing against your people or state today.

>>131060165
>but all historical sources point towards them being majority Danish. The thought of a "northmen" came from the Danes, and most Norwegian vikings were just Danish people that continued migrating north.

link pls

>>131060033
Germany got a high kill count too, but never managed to penetrate it like the Vikings did.

>>131060165
>I never said ONLY Danes, but all historical sources point towards them being majority Danish. The thought of a "northmen" came from the Danes
lel no, if anything the Norwegians were the Northmen and Swedes/Danes were Swedes/Danes.

>>131060317
Look up "annals" of medieval countries. They were written by monks and priests and kept record of events that took place that year.

The Royal Frankish Annals were written in Latin and often described Danish aggression against Charlemagne's empire.
Many Irish annals speak about viking raiders as well.

Of course we have many chronicles of Anglo-Saxons that go into great detail of Danelaw, which was more than just raiding.
Look into history yourself, you will find quite a lot. I'm just giving you a few stepping stones.
>>131060615
Great argument, you sure did prove me wrong.

>>131060993
>Great argument, you sure did prove me wrong.

He means we call them Northmen in our own language

>>131060354
the scenarios and context is so much diffrent you can't really compare the two.

>>131060993
I don't understand where you get this idea from though. Most of Viking history is a cesspool of tribes fucking each other over, and conquest from each other.

Like Norwegians did conquests in Denmark & the war that started Danelaw was led by a Norwegian. And it's just tons of back and forth conquest & rivalry over England, France & Scandinavia.

>>131060993

He had annihilated the petty kings of the South, subdued the aristocracy, asserted his suzerainty in the Orkney Islands, and conducted a successful raid on Denmark. He made peace with King Olof Skötkonung of Sweden through Þorgnýr the Lawspeaker, and was for some time engaged to Olof's daughter, Princess Ingegerd, though without Olof's approval.

In 1019 Olaf married Astrid Olofsdotter, Olof's illegitimate daughter and the half-sister of his former fiancée. The union only produced a daughter, Wulfhild, who married Ordulf, Duke of Saxony in 1042. Numerous royal, grand ducal and ducal lines are descended from Ordulf and Wulfhild, including the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Maud of Wales, daughter of King Edward VII of the United Kingdom, was the mother of King Olav V of Norway, so Olav and his son Harald V, the present King of Norway, are thus descended from Olaf.


Olav den Helliges dod
Peter Nicolai Arbo (1859)
But Olaf's success was short-lived. In 1026 he lost the Battle of the Helgeå, and in 1029 the Norwegian nobles, seething with discontent, supported the invasion of King Canute the Great of Denmark. Olaf was driven into exile in Kievan Rus.[6] He stayed for some time in Sweden in the province of Nerike where, according to local legend, he baptised many locals. In 1029, Canute's Norwegian regent, Jarl Håkon Eiriksson, was lost at sea. Olaf seized the opportunity to win back the kingdom, but he fell in 1030 at the Battle of Stiklestad, where some of his own subjects from central Norway took arms against him.

Canute, though distracted by the task of governing England, managed to rule Norway for five years after Stiklestad, with his son Svein and Svein's mother Ælfgifu (known as Álfífa in Old Norse sources) as regents. However, their regency was unpopular, and when Olaf's illegitimate son Magnus (dubbed 'the Good') laid claim to the Norwegian throne, Svein and Ælfgifu were forced to flee.

It's just tons of shit like this man

>>131061436
I told you what viking history actually contributed, and then you told me you don't know half of the things I said. Why would I care what you say now?
You're asking me questions, I tell you to research yourself, and now you instantly act like you know the entire hundreds of years worth of history of vikings.

And what the fug?
>Danelaw was led by a Norwegian
What kind of retarded talk is this? Is this what they teach you in school? Is this why all Scandinavians hate teach other?
There is nothing to suggest Ivar came from Norway. The Great Heathen Army specifically came from Denmark. Yes, I'm sure there were warriors that came from Norway and Sweden as well, but it was primarily Danish. As such, they were referred to as Danes. Thus, Danelaw. They weren't Norwegian.

>>131061921
Separate time period. Viking Age was already finished by then, the original vikings had already settled and became Normans. Scandinavia was converting to Christianity by then as well. Olaf was one of the kings that made the most progress in that.
But that is good, you are researching yourself.

>>131060993
Yeah the Danes were pretty much the only ones who had diplomatic ties to other countries in Europe(especially in the early viking age), which is why all the treaties and documents mostly talks about them.

Doesn't mean the Danes were muh real northmen and you've yet to give source on the idea that Norwegian norsemen were just migrating Danes from the south.

>>131062202
>Danelaw was led by a Norwegian
>What kind of retarded talk is this?

A grandson of Harald Fairhair, the first king to unite Norway, Olaf was born around 968 and is thought to have been raised in Russia following the death of his father. In 991, Olaf led a Viking invasion of England, which resulted in a victory at the Battle of Maldon. Afterward, the English paid off the Vikings in an effort to prevent future attacks, at least temporarily. This type of payment became known as Danegeld. In 994, Olaf and his ally Svein Forkbeard, king of Denmark, launched another raid on England and netted themselves more Danegeld. The following year, Olaf used his loot to invade Norway and was made king after its ruler, Hakon the Great, was murdered.

> and then you told me you don't know half of the things I said.

Most of what you mentioned are not really important or significant stuff in the viking sagas.

>>131062501
>Danes were muh real northmen
Never meant to imply this. Historical documents refer to "Danes" as northmen, thus, all northmen are Danes according to historical documents.

The migration period saw barbarians from Germania migrating north to Denmark. It is only natural that some would continue to migrate north for more land. There is certainly a reason why all people from the north were referred to as Danes. They were all the same at the time. There was no difference between someone from what is now Norway or Denmark. That is what I am trying to explain.

It's very different now, and it clearly triggers Scandinavians, but this is because of more recent history. The Kalmar Union, Swedish Empire, etc.
>>131062958
You're referring to Olaf, which was the first king of Norway as you mentioned. He basically created the idea of "Norway" and "Norwegian".
I'm talking about Danelaw. The first invasion of the Great Heathen Army was carried out by Ivar. He was Danish. This was long before Olaf.
>Most of what you mentioned are not really important or significant stuff in the viking sagas.
What you just posted referred directly to the Kievan Rus', something you claimed to not even know about. That is clearly significant history of the Viking Age.

>>131063274
>You're referring to Olaf, which was the first king of Norway as you mentioned.

Try reading it again and see if you understands what's wrong with that sentence.

>>131063274
>Kievan Rus
There's pretty much no sagas about adventures in Kievan Rus, no

>>131063274
>Never meant to imply this. Historical documents refer to "Danes" as northmen, thus, all northmen are Danes according to historical documents.
Are you saying all documents about Northmen are refering to Danes?
>The migration period saw barbarians from Germania migrating north to Denmark. It is only natural that some would continue to migrate north for more land.
Are you implying that is when Norway was first populated by Germanics?
>There is certainly a reason why all people from the north were referred to as Danes.
??????????????????? Now they're all referred to as Danes and not Northmen?

>>131063355
Yes, I did read that incorrectly, sorry. It was Harald that unified Norway. Completely unrelated to Danelaw still. What are you trying to prove?
>>131063421
The Kievan Rus' was started by vikings. You already said you didn't know what it is. Thanks for backing that claim up.
>>131063641
You're confusing what I'm saying.
>Are you saying all documents about Northmen are refering to Danes?
All documents referring to Danes are referring to northmen. "Dane" is a generalization. I specified that.
>Now they're all referred to as Danes and not Northmen?
Historical documents use both "Dane" and "northmen" interchangeably.

>>131064034
Kievan Ros is very insignificant & viking sagas pretty much doesn't even mention it.


919 − Norwegian Vikings under King Ragnvald Sygtryggsson of Dublin take York.

920 − Edward is accepted as father and lord by the King of the Scots, by Rægnold, the sons of Eadulf, the English, Norwegians, Danes and others all of whom dwell in Northumbria and the King and people of the Strathclyde Welsh.

954 − King Eric is driven out of Northumbria, his death marking the end of the prospect of a Northern Viking Kingdom stretching from York to Dublin and the Isles.

1066 − Harald Hardrada lands with an army, hoping to take control of York and the English crown. He is defeated and killed at the Battle of Stamford Bridge. This event is often cited as the end of the Viking era. The same year, William the Conqueror, himself a descendant of Norwegian Vikings, successfully took the English throne and became the first Norman king of England.

William was also a son of a Duke of Normandie which you claim was "All Danish".

>>131064817
>Kievan Ros is very insignificant & viking sagas pretty much doesn't even mention it.
Perhaps Norwegian viking sagas don't mention it, since Norwegian vikings didn't form the Kievan Rus'. Although that's clearly incorrect, as you just cited something that clearly mentioned king Olaf being raised in the Kievan Rus'.

>919
This was after the Great Heathen Army invaded. Danelaw had already existed. Of course other vikings would follow the initial success. They were all vikings after all, no?
>William the Conqueror, himself a descendant of Norwegian Vikings
Great, an unsourced Wikipedia claim. I had previously talked about Rollo in this thread, nothing specifies him as being from Denmark or Norway. Complete garbage.

>which you claim was "All Danish".
This is something that I have never claimed. Rollo and his vikings were clearly referred to as Danes. Franks continuously referred to those from Denmark as Danes and northmen due to continued skirmishes and raids. I mentioned this earlier.

I just don't understand what you are trying to prove.

>>131065568
>Franks continuously referred to those from Denmark as Danes and northmen due to continued skirmishes and raids. I mentioned this earlier.

Source your shit then

>>131065739
I ALREADY DID.
Royal Frankish Annals referred to Danes many times due to having a direct border with them after the defeat of Saxony. Look them up and read them.

Meanwhile you source Wikipedia. I have no quarrel with you, seriously, but why are you going on about this? What are you trying to convince me?

I originally posted to counter the complete retardation of the OP. He's not posting anymore. No point in going on about this, is there?

>>131065568
>I just don't understand what you are trying to prove.

I'm trying to prove you're talking out of your ass.

>>131066070
That's like me saying "Oh read the bible" as a source. Can you be a little more vague please?

>>131066070
>>Norwegians were sucky vikings that "raided" bishops and monks.
>>Swedes were never vikings.
>why are you trying to argue against me
because you're retarded

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>>131066306
Everything the Norwegian poster has posted was after Norway became a unified kingdom. Shortly after, it converted to Christianity. All successful exploits conducted are completely separate to any "viking raids" which were continuously unsuccessful no matter if it was a Dane or Norwegian conducting them.

The northmen referred to as "Danes" actually created states out of their military endeavors. I've already explained that.

My whole point is that the "vikings" who were epic and badass and "raided" defenseless people were pretty lame. The real vikings created successful feudal states. Again, my original response was to OP.

>>>Swedes were never vikings.
And this is still true.

The archbishop of Habburg and Bremen Rimbert (801-888) tells the story of invasions made by Swedes and Danes in Courland. First Danish raiders assembled large army of ships and landed on the shores of Courland. The Curonians gathered a large resistance force and defeated the Danish invaders. They took half of the Danish fleet, gold, silver and other bounties. The Swedish king Ulaf decided to take advantage of Danish failure and sent an army of his own to outmatch Danes. They managed to land unnoticed and attacked the fortress of Zeburg (Ezerpils), they razed it down and pillaged. Overjoyed by their victory they left their ships and gone deeper into Curonian territory. They besieged the fortress of Apulia (Apole) but met heavy resistance. After eight days of bitter fighting the Vikings were desperate and scared by the inability to take the fortress. They looked for god’s that may help them by making a sacred lottery. When it turned out that none of their gods wants to help them, they wanted to flee. But their ships were too far away and they risked to be completely annihilated in the bitter chase by the Curonians. In this moment of despair some merchants who were Christians told the Christ may be the only hope. Again they took the lottery and find out that indeed Christ is willing to help them. The Vikings again attacked the fortress and the defenders were looking for peace talks. While the most eager fighters wanted to destroy the fortress completely, their king decided to negotiate. The Vikings took 30 hostages and gold and silver.

>>131054045
WTF DUDE GOD FUCKING DAMNIT

>>131066935
Yes I know your point but you're wrong. All you're saying is the sources you've read are referring to Danes or Northmen(which according to you ALWAYS means Danes, source on that?)

You're just projecting your shitty conclusions.
>The real vikings created successful feudal states.
that is quite the opinion you got there
>Swedes were never vikings.
false

>Sweden
WE WUZ VI-KANGZ 'N SHIEEET

>>131067172
>Unorganized vikings raiding unorganized pagans in the baltics
Great.
>>131067327
>ALWAYS means Danes
Again, I've never said that. All I say is that it referred to people living in what is now Denmark. For example, the Great Heathen Army was composed of people from Denmark, Norway, and Sweden. They were all northmen. They were all referred to as "Danes". It was a generalization.
My point is those referred to as Danes were the real vikings. They actually saw success.

>>The real vikings created successful feudal states.
>that is quite the opinion you got there
>England
>Rus
>Sicily

>>Swedes were never vikings
>false
Of course what I'm saying is hyperbole. The Swedish "vikings" were major fails that never did anything worthy of note compared to the Danes.

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>>131067866
>Unorganized
Obviously not

>>131067866
>Again, I've never said that. All I say is that it referred to people living in what is now Denmark.
Yeah, Danes.

>The real vikings created successful feudal states.
>Rus
>>131055729
>Swedes were never vikings
hmm really made me think

Anyway I realize it's cool to have one of these whacky badass theories such as yours. Spartans were also shit fighters and Hitler shouldn't have attacked Russia.

>>131068107
Did they create a successful state in the baltics that lasted hundreds of years? I don't think so.

>>131068262
>Yeah, Danes.
That's what they were referred to. They looked the same, they talked the same. Why would Franks refer to them differently? You still look the same and talk the same.

Was Rus' not a successful feudal state? What in the fuck are you even implying? That Rurik was a Swede?

That image doesn't even specify what settlement was created by which vikings. There is barely a difference between Norwegian viking, Danish viking, or Swedish viking, so there's a reason why they wouldn't specify.
That source the Swede posts refers to Swedish raids in the baltics. That image shows their success pretty well.

>>131055498
>t. triggered Christian

>>131068759
That was not their intent if you actually read.

>>131054045
i think basshunter is pretty cool

>>131068880
What was their original intent? Loot, plunder, rape? Wow, that sure is contributing to society, isn't it?
We should totally revive the Viking Age guys!

The entire post sounds reads like a fanfic anyway.

>>131068759
>That's what they were referred to. They looked the same, they talked the same. Why would Franks refer to them differently? You still look the same and talk the same.
So your argument is that Europeans used different words to describe the different Norsemen. Okay, thanks.
>That Rurik was a Swede?
>Varangians were not Swedes
you really keep making me think

Yes European used different words to describe the various Norsemen tribes such as Northmen, Norsemen, Danes, Swedes, Goths, Varangians etc Thanks my man.

way to argue about absolutely nothing

>>131069139
>Wow, that sure is contributing to society, isn't it?
Haha yeah it is. That was probably very contributing to their society.

>>131054045
Keksimus

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"12-year-old girl created family tree linking 42 of 43 U.S. presidents to King John of England, who signed Magna Carta in 1215"

I just realized almost every US president ever, & the royal family of England & Spain, are all descendants of the viking Rollo...

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>>131069139
>Calls others LARPers

>"LETS TAKE BACK CONSTANTINOPLE DEUS VULT AMIRITE?! xD"

>>131055899

Big Black People

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>>131069500
Vikings confirmed for creating the modern world.

>>131069176
>So your argument is that Europeans used different words to describe the different Norsemen. Okay, thanks.
Are you purposely misreading? They specifically didn't. Franks had one word for northmen. Dane.
>>Varangians were not Swedes
Varangians were Scandinavian. Nothing specifies them being "Swedish" or "Danish" or "Norwegian". To the Franks, they would still be Danes. Varangian was just the Greek name for northmen, just like "Dane" for the Franks.

Again, all Scandinavians were the same. Only today is there a social difference due to more recent history. "Swedes" were never vikings. They didn't exist yet. You're clearly triggered by this.
>>131069519
Another tard that's triggered by a flag, huh?

>>131069744
WE WUZ KANGZ?

>>131069840
>Nothing specifies them being "Swedish"

>Varjager, (engelsk transkribering:varyag) av nordiska väringar ("De edsvurna"), är namnet på vikingatida skandinaver (nordmän, framför allt ruser eller svear i allmänhet) hos de slaviska stammarna

"Mostly Rus and Swedes".

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varjager

>>131070269
We wuz literally every kang

>>131069840
>Franks had one word for northmen. Dane.
Yeah but you're saying Dane means Swedish, Norwegian and Dane. So they could have said any of the three.
>Again, all Scandinavians were the same.
No.
>Only today is there a social difference due to more recent history. "Swedes" were never vikings. They didn't exist yet. You're clearly triggered by this.
False.

You can't possibly be retarded enough to not realize Swedes or Norwegians etc points to roughly the present day borders of the countries and therefore when referencing them in connection to the Viking age, one means to describe the Norsemen occupying areas of what is today any of these countries.

You're a shill.

You still don't have any arguments for anything, all you're trying to do is pretend you know what you're talking about by saying completely irrelevant things.

Your autism is showing.

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>>131070269
Definitely.

>>131070395
>Yeah but you're saying Dane means Swedish, Norwegian and Dane. So they could have said any of the three.
No, I'm saying Dane meant people that came from what is now Sweden, Norway, or Denmark. There was only ONE word for this for the Franks. Dane. That's it. They were all Danes. How many times do I have to repeat this? And remember, when I refer to Dane, I don't mean a modern Danish person. Completely different.
>No.
You don't have any argument, your autism is showing, you're triggered over being compared to other Scandinavians. Look at all of the junk I just said, it's useless, isn't it?

And what in the fuck could I possibly be shilling for? I cite historical documents, and then the other Swede posts Wikipedia articles. Who is the real tard here? I have no problem with you, it's him that's saying retarded shit.

I would like to know what you're trying to argue for. The one Norwegian poster didn't know jack about history, but you actually seem knowledgeable, just stubborn over the point I'm trying to make. In contrast, what point are you trying to make?

>>131071092
>And remember, when I refer to Dane, I don't mean a modern Danish pers
So what you're saying is completely irrelevant and you sticking your head into this thread is completely retarded since you completely 100% agree with OP.

I have an issue with you having an issue with OP saying Swedish vikings. I have an issue with you saying Norwegian/Swedish vikings sucked/didn't exist right after saying "Danes" referred to all Scandinavian Norsemen right after saying Danes were the superior vikings. I have a problem with you saying Danish vikings were superior because this and that even though you previously say all vikings were Danish vikings. I have a problem with you saying all Scandinavian Norsemen were completely interchangeable and had no defining features at all that set them apart, even though there are some good sources indicating that especially Danes and Norwegians were more culturally closer to each other than Swedes, such as Swedes somewhat different religious practices, burials and tattooing patterns(eastern vikings were known to have tattoos covering their entire bodies but this seem to have not been prevalent in vikings going to the west)

Basically I take issue with your unnecessary autism

>>131058406
Ragnar Lodbrok was a Swede.
He was the Son of Sigurd Ring, the king of Sweden. Literally the most known Norseman throughout history.

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>>131069500
Welp that settles that. thanks for playing rest of the world but, the real winner was already declared a long time ago

>>131072285
Good, perhaps we can work this out now.

>I have a problem with you saying Danish vikings were superior because this and that even though you previously say all vikings were Danish vikings
I think this is your biggest misconception with what I'm saying. Dane does not mean Danish, it is what Franks and other Europeans referred to vikings as. There is no complication here.

>I have a problem with you saying all Scandinavian Norsemen were completely interchangeable and had no defining features at all that set them apart
I never said that, the historical documents did. I repeat it as hyperbole because it triggers you Scandinavians so much. I wonder why.

>I have a problem with you saying all Scandinavian Norsemen were completely interchangeable and had no defining features at all that set them apart
I agree with this. The changes came overtime, and those who settled in Sweden formed unique customs and culture overtime. The same customs and culture that evolved the high medieval Swedish state into the Swedish Empire and beyond.

My primary issue is with the attachment to "viking" and "pagan".
Let's say Rurik was "Swedish" and everyone who joined him was a "Swede". They clearly shifted cultures overtime, swiftly adopting a new religion as well. Can you really claim that as "Swedish"?

>>131073184
Ragnar was a legend. Him being a historical king is debated. Take Eric as a different example. He unified Sweden, was clearly Swedish, but was completed separate from actual viking expansion such as Danelaw/Kievan Rus'.

That is the point I'm trying to make. If you're going to adopt some sort of identity, why is it viking? Why not the Swedes that broke free of the Kalmar Union? That formed the Swedish Empire? The history is much more firmly documented. Why are you attaching yourself to something so vague?

WE WUZ VIKANGZ is just as bad as WE WUZ KANGZ, it really doesn't matter if you are Swedish, Norwegian, or Danish.

>>131074586
Because the Viking age Sweden is when our culture was entierly our own.

>>131074912
I agree with that. The other poster even specified distinct differences in religious practices, which I trust. But all I'm specifying is that if anything, you Swedes. Not vikings.

I would still argue that more recent history is where Sweden was truly its own. The Swedish Empire was a country built by Swedes, and it stood up against major powers, becoming a regional power as a result.

But of course, Sweden is in a difficult time now, so it's easy to turn to anything. I feel empathy for you. Fighting about it is really quite pointless.

>>131075223
Where are you from then?

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>>131069139
>Loot, plunder, rape
You don't know anything about history, the vikings created the very first parliament in world called Alþingi, they made incredible innovations in boat building becoming the best explorers in the world, they were talented in craftsmanship, business and law inventing countless of ways to store food in their harsh climate.
Through their history they had incredibly smart and talented men like the Ivar the boneless, a fantastic commander, Snorri Sturluson, an incredibly wise historian and politician and the poet and well respected warrior Egill Skallagrímsson, etc.
The Vikings that you see in TV and movies aren't historically accurate at all, for the majority the Nordic people were civilized farmers, settlers, explorers, traders and politicians with some who 'went into viking' or 'fara í víking' which was when men sailed to other weaker countries and stole their things because they could, this was the minority.

>>131077571
>You don't know anything about history
I understand why you'd post this since it would be a chore to read all of my posts. I specifically posted that to mock OP, someone who seems to be obsessed with how powerful and badass vikings are when all he quotes is garbage completely unrelated to the actual vikings that shaped history.

I've previously mentioned Ivar, who led the Great Heathen Army and established Danelaw.

>The Vikings that you see in TV and movies aren't historically accurate at all
To a certain extent. The vikings who actually established countries and governments were completed different from those who simply raided churches. I agree 100% with that you say.

>>131059720
oy this, we raped the iles for genorations.

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>>131077921
Understood, hadn't read your other replies and you're just arguing with a deluded swede.
I disagree with you about calling Norwegians just completely 'sucky' vikings though since some of them had great historical accomplishments in settlement and geography, Ingólfur Arnarson settled in and molded Iceland who became pivotal for historical political innovations, laws and writing down the Vikings history and mythology. Erik the red found Greenland documenting it into history very early and tried settling there which most likely didn't work in the end because of the lack of trading opportunities though, saying there just 'sucky' is pretty discrediting.

>>131080104
What I meant by sucky vikings is that their accomplishments wasn't just related to raiding villages and churches, and they were completely different from the vikings from what is now Denmark as well.
Like you said, it was historical accomplishments as well as clear and distinct customs and culture.

I really do respect the history of Scandinavia, and there's a reason why I think it's so important. Again, what I meant is that, for example, the people you mentioned were sucky "vikings", but great Norwegians.

The whole conflict comes from the misconception of what "viking" really means. People think of barbarians completely focused on warfare, looting, and destruction. Of course, I don't mean that. Vikings have a long, rich history.

>>131081124
Nigger

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>>131081124
Okay thanks for clearing that out, had you figured out completely wrong. Respect you for actually looking into history instead of calling my ancestral pagans murdering barbarians, while they were smart and civilized people who adopted Christianity quite quickly and very peacefully when they got in contact with it.

>>131082533
The King of Sweden who adopted Christianity killed his rival Sven who was still Pagan.

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>>131055072
>>131054808
>gotta go steal europeans and rape their woman
That's the Viking spirit. Not soo different from Muslims pirates isn't

>>131055867
read some more history, you seem to know the limited half of it

>not understanding borders back then
>not understanding how people moved around back then
>not considering the politics of the day
>talks as if nothing was different besides level of technology as if this was a computer game

eeeh..

>>131083551
>Genetic dumping ground

>>131083955
>Not having an argument because he know that before Christianity, Scandinavian history was nigger-tier

Yeah m8, go grab a boat and rape some English woman

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>>131054045
you havent shown how awesome you are in a while, pls come back

>>131082963
Don't know what that is supposed to be, except for a mascot of a fish oil product. If you're trying to downgrade my nation you have literally nothing to talk about, you're the most insignificant nation in northern Europe.

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>>131082946
I'd argue for that time that killing one rival still doesn't alter the fact that the Nordic peoples adoption of Christianity was peaceful among themselves.

>>131057257
I am not impressed. Vikings didnt have steroids or weights to lift. Infact if you were that big you would be a burden on a ship or in war.

The best body type is a long, muscley, springy/flexible body type. One that does not easily tire and is still strong enough to carry weight.

A perfect example would be Alexander Gustafson. Dolph Lundegren, professional hockey players, professional rugby players.

Weight lifters are useless if they aren't pushing or lifting a bar with weifht on it. If I had a sword against this man I would imeediarely know he is slow and tires easily

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>>131084592
He was a traitor to his people. He should've resisted. Luckily Christianity is completely dead here today and people can go about finding out about their real roots in this culture war.

>>131055622
Found the computer posture nerd.

Put your head back as in into proper posture, enjoy your flab neck.

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>>131085088
luckily?

You do realize that if you did have a strong Christian faith that you would never be in the shit situation you are in now?

so lucky, being the rape capital of Europe, so fucking lucky indeed!

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>>131085351
stronk kukstians

>>131054240
How does that explain the times of Gustavus Adolphus, Charles XII etc then? Swedes were the best warriors in Europe until well into the 18th century.

>>131084982
>Implying that you are anything more than a basement dwelling neckbeard

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>>131085504
Catholics are NOT Christians btw.

They are just as satanic as the zionist talmud jews

>>131086171
you are all kike puppets

>>131086632
And what are you?

>>131085310
If there will be a war between nations it won't be because of some culture but laws and religion. The rules of Ásatrú wasn't far too different from Christianity, read Hávamál.

>>131086171
Catholics are the only "good" Christians, maybe along with Orthodox

I'm glad Christianity is dead in Sweden, i'm especially glad we don't have the snake wrangling American christianity in Sweden.

>>131086806
a man with free will who didnt fall for the jewish tricks

>>131054045
Vikings are based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjCdB5p2v0Y

>>131087426
Have he ever been found?

>>131086904
You are mistaken.

The catholic church moved the sabbath from saturday to sunday just to prove its power, it go against the bible.

if you read a bible it is obvious the catholic church is not a follower.