Milk decreases testosterone levels substantially new study finds

>>131021987
>Hi-test is good

Have you even SEEN Japan, most technologically advanced nation? They will be robots soon, what use is worry of sex hormone and lactose diarrhoea at that stage, so close to apex of humanity?

Fuck off kike, milk is the white man's drink.

what about organic milk?

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>>131021987
Milk has always been propaganda

>>131021987
Fake news. None of these studies show physiologically significant difference in hormone levels.

>>131022875
>yes goy drink your estrogen-liquid
>it's white culture after all!

>TestoFuel
>AnabolicMen

I don't care what your gay porn sites say, OP. They don't sound very reliable.

>>131021987
Milk has always had tons of estrogen in it and various other hormones meant for a developing cow.

Nowadays there are milk products in everything and people are consuming more and more milk than our grandfathers ever did.

Combine that with people not exercising and you have the low T epidemic in the west.

I don''t drink milk because:

1. I am not a baby
2. I am not a cow

>>131022875
Good goy! Big Dairy loves you.

>>131021987
>both links sell products or services to increase testosterone.
really makes you think

question is WHICH brands are safe

>>131023243
>1. I am not a baby
>2. I am not a cow

This. Unless you are one of these two, consuming milk products does nothing beneficial for you (enjoy your fat, estrogen, and whatever chemicals they were shoving into the cow). Our bodies do NOT absorb calcium (which is the only beneficial vitamin in milk) from cow's milk.

>>131023137
Are you implying "testofuel.com" has lost its journalistic integrity?

>>131023243
>Nowadays there are milk products in everything and people are consuming more and more milk than our grandfathers ever did.

I am lactose intolerant and you're very correct-- it's amazing how much shit has dairy in it. Things you wouldn't even think of, like sausages and bread.

what about goat's milk?

this is a psyop by non-whites who can't drink milk

If you're not vegan you are a woman

>>131022875
>Estrogen and other hormone filled drink (along with pus)
>It's le white culture as deemed by alt kikes

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>>131021987
>Source is a supplement ad for roidheads

no no no, it is more complex than that.

if it is estrogen, then the body can convert it.
anyway, it isn't human estrogen so it doesn't work with out receptors.

If it is the homogenization, then we can drink non homogenized milk.

it may be a combination of the two, as the body may be working so hard to put the cleaved proteins/fats back together that it can't devote enough energy to convert the estrogen to testosterone or DHT.

but yeah, it's more complex than those faggots make it seem.

Im planning on breastfeeding my kid for as long as possible, then when he becomes a kid, powder my milk and give him that without telling him. When he eventually finds out, he won't mind because he'll be strong and healthy thanks to it.

>>131023468
I don't know why this cracked me up so much.

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>>131021987
Milk and especially soy reduce the amount of testosterone you have.

Ohh what's that? Milk and Soy just dropped in price dramatically in America?

Damn goy, drink all you can! I want you to drink my cuck juice so when I try to take over again you all will be submissive baby men. And when you roll over on your fat stomach with your big bitch tits I will fuck you in the ass like the trap you've become.

>>131021987
well they do pump the cows with hormones to make them fat so they go to slaughter faster, and hormones to increase milk production which im sure has absolutely nothing to do with americans getting fatter and having all sorts of sexual disorders which started just after those hormones started to go into our food chain.

Really no one else sees that connection?

>>131023817
Who will extract it for you? Are you single? Do you like korean men?

>>131021987
What is the obsession with milk?
https://youtu.be/tg-2Qd7kp9k

>>131021987
can confirm - was a sucker for milk during all of my teens. Unable to loose my man-boobs, even if the rest of my body is slim, and my test-levels are abyssal if I don't work out / fap too much.

>>131021987
and here's proof positive, from Men's Health UK:

http://www.menshealth.co.uk/food-nutrition/eat-up-to-man-up

Have you ever noticed it's always "Got Milk?"? It's never "Got Organic Valley™ Milk?". There's hardly any competition between milk companies.
Big Milk is huge, possibly bigger than anything (((they))) have accomplished in America. Look into IGF-1.

>>131022755
People here still use fax machines, and a lot of high-school kids can't use excel. I think that's some ways off yet

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>>131024217
Stay clueless negroid, the less intelligent the better! You will be the tool of our domination, and you don't even know it!

The best kind of slaves? The ones that think they are free!

>>131021987
Can confirm.
Drank milk heavily as a child and early teens.
Low testosterone.
Now I'm a full time tranny.

>>131021987
Bullshit.
>source is broscience blogs

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>>131023137
>it may be a combination of the two, as the body may be working so hard to put the cleaved proteins/fats back together that it can't devote enough energy to convert the estrogen to testosterone or DHT.
>but yeah, it's more complex than those faggots make it seem.
>>131023216
>>131023352
>>131023468
>>131023734
>>131023825

The SCHOLARLY sources are at the bottom of the articles, you dumb fucks. The articles aren't the sources themselves. They just scrutinize the studies.

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You have the right idea, but it's soy, not milk. Soy makes you into a girl.

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>>131021987
>soy milk was known for giving men extra estrogen
>now it's regular milk

MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND YOU GOD DAMN FUCKTARDS

WHICH MILK DO I DRINK

SOY OR REGULAR

IM GETTING FUCKING SICK OF THIS BULLSHIT THAT THEY KEEP SHOVING DOWN OUR FUCKING THROATS WITH THIS FUCKING INCONSISTENT TRASH """SCIENCE"""

MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MINDS ALREADY

>>131023163
>>131023243
>>131023692
black hair brown eyes detected

>>131022875
/thread

>>131021987
I never understood how people can stand straight milk. Shit is revolting and leaves a nasty film in your mouth.

>milk decreases testosterone levesl substantially
>Bodybuilders would literally chug gallons of milk in the days before protein powder
Really sizzled my griddle.

>b-but teh "processed" estrogen hormones
You mean the ones they give to the cow to simulate the levels they need to start producing milk, and would therefore logically have always been present in milk even in the days before industrial agriculture, because a cow that isn't producing estrogen is a cow that isn't producing milk?
Those estrogen hormones?

I'm on to you kikes....

>>131024600
Neither.

Almond milk.

>>131024600
REGULAR, OUT OF A BAG, LIKE A GOOD WHITE MAN
It's soy that will fuck you.

>>131021987
No you retard, our fathers and grandfathers did more physical work, chopping wood, fixing cars, that shit boosts your testosterone levels way high. Youths need to be made to do some physical work.

>>131021987
>Drinking shit other than water or organic tea
>Some processed hormone filled easily expirable white liquid that comes out a cow titty
No shit it's probably not good for you you fucking retards...

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>>131024564
I am honestly surprised a leaf knows what they are talking about.

STOP IT NOW!

OY VEY!

>>131021987
Horse shit.

Look lefties HATE Dairy farms with a passion. You only have to come to NZ to see how much these people want to shut down all the Dairy farms because of "Muh Rivers" and that cows farting is causing climate change.

How is this even /pol/ worthy thread?
/ck/

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>>131024600
Regular
Strait from the tiddy

>>131021987
After a couple hundreds of years of milk being a staple of the European diet, only just now is it discovered to be very bad for you! Go figure.

This thread is too obvious.

>>131024600
It's both.

>>131021987
The modern "milk" that americans drink is water down with fluoride water+bovine g.h's.

>>131024479
same
milk has always been my favorite drink by far and i would consume it very heavily. now a tranny

>>131021987
Good news, everyone: http://www.nature.com/news/archaeology-the-milk-revolution-1.13471

>During the most recent ice age, milk was essentially a toxin to adults because — unlike children — they could not produce the lactase enzyme required to break down lactose, the main sugar in milk. But as farming started to replace hunting and gathering in the Middle East around 11,000 years ago, cattle herders learned how to reduce lactose in dairy products to tolerable levels by fermenting milk to make cheese or yogurt. Several thousand years later, a genetic mutation spread through Europe that gave people the ability to produce lactase — and drink milk — throughout their lives. That adaptation opened up a rich new source of nutrition that could have sustained communities when harvests failed.

So - White Man's Drink indeed >>131022875

You can't beat a good milkshake

>>131024477
>Sucks anything as long as white liquid comes out.
Stay salty white boi.

>>131024648
You're such a fucking moron. Farmers give growth hormones to their cows so that they produce a shitload more of milk. Do you deny this may have repercussions on the human body after consuming such milk as the studies have shown? And they process the milk to enhance the taste, color, thickness -- not just removing fat. This has profound implications.
>>131024712
>>131024757
>>131024804


This is why we will never get anywhere as a movement. Too many of you are too dumb to fathom anything which transcends your emotions.

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The real threat is the anti-dairy jew like OP. Milk proved beneficial to developing white countries with all the nutrients it gives.

Manlets are from bloodlines where nutrients were scarce, a very gay, dominated bloodline.

>>131025172
>we
Duck off kike

>>131021987
So how are you supposed to reach your maximum possible height? Say you have children and you want them to grow up masculine yet tall, what do? Milk is a good source of Calcium (height and strong bones) and vitamin D (testosterone precursor)

>>131022875
Is that why white men are turning into traps. Don't get me started on nordic "men"

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>>131021987
But you don't complain that you're tall from calcium and hormone overdose? "Tall" people are a very recent phenomenon, barely 150 years old.

>>131024622
I can drink milk but cow milk is disgusting, at least in the US.

>>131021987
I'm drinking a glass of milk right now. I drink one every night before bed.
How fucked am I, /pol/?

>>131025315
Don't get the extremely processed shit. Find organic milk sold from a local farmer, not the big name milk companies.

I drink the living shit out of milk.
Went to doctors and was told I have too much testosterone. No wonder why im horny as fuck and angry every day lol.

Guess it didnt effect me..

>>131025172
You deny left wingers want to shut down the massive Dairy industry in New Zealand?

I fucking live here cunt and I see it constantly.

How we need to get off Dairy and start eating insects and all this other crazy nonsense that only SJW's would talk about.

I have no doubt there are growth hormones in Milk and in Chicken and lots of other shit we are consuming.

But at the same time there is an agenda to shut down the Dairy industry and I see it constantly here.

>>131022875

Wait so the jews put estrogen in a drink that mostly whites drink? oy vey

>>131025396
I'm a manlet, and I drank about 2 cups a day during my teen years. I think that growth stuff is bullshit. Being pumped with estrogen didn't make me taller.

I drink a gallon of milk a day
Good thing I guess. I might want to go on a rampage if i didnt

Is milk good for trap diet then? I am a trap so I would like to know

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>>131025424
I drink a quarter to half gallon everyday, I'm fine, you're fine, OP is playing everybody with Jewish tricks

Yeah, makes guys into cucks. That's why its the white mans drink.

>>131021987
Been drinking milk my whole life and am noticeably more masculine than most other guys

fuck off with your kike funded studies

>target milk to be pumped with estrogen
>it's mainly European who drink the hormone saturated milk (on top of the water and plastics)
>new generations of whites become effeminate pussies

those god damn kikes

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>>131021987
DROP WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW AND FOLLOW THIS THREAD!
>>131022013 →
A commenter on one of the "Elsagate" videos we have been following recently had literal child porn on his channel, the channel has been taken down just now, but in the video a child between 8-10 years old gave a handjob to an older man. This is huge. This proves that Elsagate is not some Indian money laundering scheme or anything like that. This is some form of simulated CP operation so creeps can get their rocks off.

>>131021987
>2017
>drinking the white jew

ITT:

>Jews trying to rationalize their lactose intolerance

>>131025587
I didn't really read your initial post, so forgive me for putting you in my post. To further address your concern, sure milk pisses off liberals, but that doesn't debunk the claims of the studies. All the processing in contemporary milk has immense repercussions in men.

I drink tons of milk and I'm strong

Weightlifters have loved milk for decades and it doesn't seem to have impaired them

>>131021987
Can Jews drink milk?

>cheese is part of white culture
>yes goy forget that

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>>131025172
>Farmers give growth hormones to their cows
Try not buying that milk. Worked for me.

>>131024600
>WHICH MILK DO I DRINK
>SOY OR REGULAR
NEITHER YOU STUPID FUCKING LEAF

IF YOU NEED SOMETHING WHITE TO DRINK THAT BAD, GO ASK YOUR BOYFRIEND FOR HIS CUMMIES

>>131021987
Just because cows are pumped full of hormones doesn't mean every other animal that you can get milk from is. The dairy industry is shit just get milk from other animals.

>>131025911
Yes, as a Jew, we drink inordinate amounts of Milk and eat a lot of cheese.

>>131021987
Ive been getting milk from my neighbors cows, haven't bought it from a store in years. I'm sure in those massive corporate dairy farms they pump their cows with shit and give em feed that ain't right.

>>131022755
>not wanting to be intelligent and manly
fuck off cuck

>>131025396
>thinks milk calcium is what spurs bone growth
This thread is entirely void of nutrition knowledge it's laughable

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>>131021987
Answer me you child fucking, subversive, communist loving, faggot loving, strange bread eating kike. Can jews drink milk? Can they? CAN YOU DRINK MILK JEW BOY?

>>131022875
vikings never drank milk
full beards down to their nipples
conquered 25% of europe

fastforward

sweden
drink milk like water
effeminate men
cuckery
facial hair is sparse and light
subjugated by their own women

Many American milk companies' milk is banned in Europe and Leafland. The only ones that sell overseas is Nestle and Dean. The milk sold there comes from plants & farms in the UK, Belgium, and France. Where they don't use IGF-1. Europe is fine, but here, the FDA & ANA allows it even though they know it's illegal in Europe.

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>>131022875
Drink moar milk white bois

>>131026276
Your a dog fucking, xir loving, leaf faggot. Your post, opinion, and maple syrup ridden life mean nothing.

>>131026530
Where they don't have* IGF-1.

>>131025396
>"Tall" people are a very recent phenomenon, barely 150 years old.

No they're not

Average height of European hunter gatherers and Steppe people was not materially different to average height in Europe now.

Average heights fell with the agricultural revolution because the diet was worse. The last 150 years has seen massive improvements in diet of your average person because of advancements in agricultural and increase in international trade. With that improvement in diet we have returned to normal height.

Average height will continue to rise, up until a point. Couple hundreds years the average height in Europe might be 6'3, but I doubt It will ever rise above that

Milk can also exacerbate swelling conditions, just don't drink too much milk.

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>>131021987
but how do you eat cereal without milk???

>>131021987
Probably the faggy non full cream milks.

>>131026529
https://www.reference.com/history/did-vikings-drink-f9207bffb0e9b2c0#

YOU ARE A FAGGOT SUBHUMAN KIKE

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White bois need more milk. Oy vey

>>131026912
almond milk
or protein powder + water

>>131026529
>vikings never drank milk

Yes they absolutely did. You're spewing shit. All pagan European cultures drunk milk.

Your average norsemen wasn't drinking 2 glasses a day, but that was because milk was expensive and they didn't have massive factory farming that allowed for the production of milk all year round.

How can we stop milk proliferation?

>>131027147
by killing yourself

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>>131026601
those hips

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>redpilled
>not drinking hemp milk

>>131027029
>germany drinks nut milk

ITT WE HAVE CLEARLY LEARNED THAT THE JEW AND FAGGOT DOG FUCKING CANADIANS HATE TE FACT THAT THE WHITE MAN DRINKS MILK. IT IS THE SOURCE OF OUR POWER, DRINK A GLASS A DAY. CANADIANS ARE DOG FUCKING PANCAKE PEOPLE

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>>131027029
don't almonds lower test too or something

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Just take 100mg of zinc and 400mg or magnesium and you'll be fine

>>131025172
>Farmers give growth hormones to their cows so that they produce a shitload more of milk.
Yes.
So they're in milk producing mode ALL THE TIME and not just SOME of the time, not so that their bodies magically produce milk by converting it from estrogen.

>This is why we will never get anywhere as a movement.
Feels good man.

>>131021987
Is whole milk okay I need to know so I can grow a monster dong

>>131021987
Can confirm. Only one data point - but I drank milk all my life and never had much facial hair

When I turned 30 I cut milk and sugar and bread out and started juicing raw fruit and vegetables

Two years later and my facial hair growth is off the charts...definately feel a test bump - Definately something in water / milk / fucking everything.

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>>131027253
>CANADIANS HATE TE FACT THAT THE WHITE MAN DRINKS MILK.

what did he mean by this?

>>131027230
DUDE

>>131027122

Yes, cow milk plays a role in the norse creation legend.

Giants were nourished by it.

The land of milk and honey is a 5000 year old legend. Milk has been highly sought after for all of recorded human history.

The mongols drank a lot of milk during Genghis Khan's heyday, they were very masculine.

>>131027403
YOU ARE NOT WHITE YOU ARE FAGGOT JEW PANCAKE PEOPLE.

>>131021987
>Bullshit
On testorerone testing differences. LOQ and EOM

LOQ is level of quantification. Older tests could not quantify as accuarately.
So one carried out in 1960 could show a higher testosterone level than a test carried out in 2017 even if the levels are actually identical.

EOM is Error of margin/Margin of Error. Currently this is around 10% depending on the column you use in your HPLC. Older machines and different columns have different EOM which can distort your results if you are trying to compare historical data.

>>131021987
The estrogen is destroyed during digestion you stupid fucks

Yall are gay as fuck.i drink a fuck ton of milk and I have impregnated several females and fuck shit up

Soy, rebel whatever just posted a vid about. On my phone and taking shit. To lazy to search for it while I'm dropping these logs.

>>131027677
>Asians
>Lactose tolerance

>>131027828
Wrong read OP's links

>>131027894
This. OP is a soy industry shill

>sites where men would guzzle their own cum if they would increase the protein intake or testosterone
>"i wont trust this article despite sources down below"
/pol/ is really infested by low T redditors

>>131023430
Except it's the only thing you should chose when you have to survive on a desert island and can only pick 15kg of one food to take with you.

>>131028038
>meme websites
>reliable sources

>>131028271
Still hasn't read the article. They link the studies dimwit

>>131021987
I have always drank at least 10 litres of milk a week and am built 6.2 when dad and mum are both under 6. So either I've fucked myself out of further gains or milk is the key.

Something is interfering with the production and or utilization of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). This is an androgen hormone that affects fertility in men and women. In addition to this, it spurs neurogenesis in the Hippocampus, which is responsible for short-term memory (Alzheimer's, dementia, etc are on the
rise in the United States). Basically, the West is chemically being made infertile and cognitively impaired while fertile refugees are brought in as the replacement population.

Did you really think they were going to just import refugees into the United States and leave our genocide up to chance? Oh no no no! They're going for the gold!

>>131023163
Yes goy trust testfuel and anabolicmen

>>131021987
Milk is for babies.
What about cheese? I eat a lot of cheese

>/pol/ cant GOMAD
lmao

>>131027029
I mix cereals with quark. Carbs + prot. Just what's needed

>>131021987
>DID YOU KNOW TODAY'S MEN HAVE LESS TESTOSTERONE THAN HIS FATHER
>AND HIS FATHER HAD LESS THAN HIS FATHER
>TRY OUR NEW T-BOOSTER TDOAY

>>131028467
No wonder I can't grow facial hair.

Would supplemental hormones help?

>>131023757
>anyway, it isn't human estrogen so it doesn't work with out receptors.

Estrogen is a chemical with a defined structure- its not a protein that can be varied like insulin might be between cows and humans

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>>131023410
the only safe brand

>>131028666
I'm doing gomad right now and this thread is bothering me

I hear about all these foods that are full of estrogen. Are there foods that increase testosterone? Google says tuna does

>>131023430

Vitb12. You are a retard arent you?

>>131028992
How old are you? I never had facial hair until I hit 33, now at 40 I could grizzly Adams in a week.

>>131023430
It stops balding if you drink it everyday

>>131028992
Probably not. It wouldn't fix the problem if utilization of the androgen hormone is impaired. You have to be on a special diet that includes fasting. I can induce hair growth in post secondary sex organs in as little as 2 weeks. It stimulates the rejuvenation of hair follicles on the scalp in those experiecing balding.

The longest I've followed the special diet is 2 months and the post secondary sex organ hair grown remains even if you go off the diet. However, balding and cognitive impairment start back up again.

>>131021987
So was the milk meme just another jewish psyop to feminize us?

>>131029914
Are you serious? I could grow a goatee at 12

>>131021987
i have a bowl of cereal each day and thats all the milk i have, you have to remember your body flushes out alot of the estrogenic shit you claim in food, but it can be overwhelmed and turn in you feminine but aslong as you do home exercises and other shit get some sun light, you wont have an issue.

What's a redpilled breakfast /pol/?

>not having your own cows to get milk from
Wew /pol/ I thought you were white? All white people have farm animals.

>>131030187
Thats what I felt like, I used to see got milk. commericials all the time on cartoon channels as a kid, "build strong bones" they claimed, my bones dont feel stronger!

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>>131021987
>tfw I haven't had milk since I was 8
>tfw I wonder why everyone around me is such a faggot

>>131021987
American milk is full of added hormones - not allowed in Canadian milk

>>131024466
Seriously? They had us running scripts in grade 3.

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>milk becomes the drink of choice for the alt-right and white people

>suddenly "new study" finds it fills you with estrogen and makes you feminine

Hmmmmmmmm......

>>131021987
yeah sorry I like not going bald by 30, and if I must ingest estrogen to do that, fine

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Explains all the faggots and traps .

>>131030520
A piece of fruit and a half slice of dark rye bread with pickled herring, or a portion of porridge (oat or barley)

>>131030207
>mfw 24 still no goatee
But I got beard everywhere else except for the chin, weird shit...
It would seem that some grow it on the chin first and others - on the neck and cheeks.

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>>131030520
A full English breakfast, where the animals and crops were grown, picked and slaughtered by your own personal Niggers.

>>131029643
>>131030520
make banana pancakes with only eggs and bananas
bananas boost test, also you can add crispy bacon on the side since bacon raises test aswell. ive begun eating alot of bananas lately and i can see results, not only in increased bodyhear, but also in my mood. bananas will make you less depressed and detoxify your body. usually i eat around 4-6 in a day but ideally i should eat around 10-12

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>>131030520
eggs and oats
Real bread, not like the shit you eat in america.

The only reasonnable daily use of dairy is butter.
Otherwise you only need to consume it with moderation every once and then.

>>131032673
usually i just make one big pancake instead of several cus its much faster and easier

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ITT: White males lauding and praising Milk drinkers and drinking as a good think.
Talos, Guide me....

Milk is great to calm those times when you have drank to much red wine. / spirits and your stomach is literally alien blood ph

But I thought this milk thing was known forever. All the the cute English girls with huge tits always credit their assets to lots of milk drinking - heard that back in the 80's - it's nothing new

>>131025398
>at least in the US.
That's probably the case, for the last 3 years I buy milk from local farmer in near village, yes he does not always have it and it turn to shit after few days but man it's tasty, like really tasty

>>131025315
Greeks drink a lot of milk, so do Bulgarians, are we effeminate as well, fag?

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>>131021987
fake news, anyway who drinks milk that often. cheese is better

having spent half my life in a gym around huge sweating walls of meat who drink milk and can't stop fucking everything in sight yeah i think your liberal science is full of shit

>>131032673
>ideally i should eat around 10-12
You are eating 1000 calories a day in just bananas? That's like half your daily intake. How the fuck are you not a banana by now.

>>131021987
Link me the actual study and not some bullshit website shilling supplements to insecure low test cucks.

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>>131033972
>having spent half my life in a gym around huge sweating walls of meat who drink milk and can't stop fucking everything in sight yeah i think your liberal science is full of shit
Yeah they are totally not on tren.

>>131024622
i have black hair, dark brown eyes and tan skin and i drink a gallon of whole milk every week.

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>>131021987
time to start drinking milk

>>131034157
yeah yeah everyone's on gear
i still know plenty of natty average guys who drink milk and fuck their same-race wives

seems to me more likely that (((they))) just want you to stop drinking milk...

>>131033443
My gf is Danish and has a huge rack, never drinks milk.

>>131021987
/fit/ has been onto this shit for years now.
Stop drinking this shit /pol/

No wonder my manboobs increased when drinking milk.

>>131023243

>I dont eat honey because im not a bee

>>131033923
>drink milk
>btfo kebab on a daily
there is something to this

>>131034294
99% of fit doesn't even lift