Can Someone be a True Christian and a Nazi?

ITS A GOOD QUESTION!!!!!

>>131018485
Yes, if you don't kill 'em. Send them back and help them build this, there.

>>131020504
>Send them back and help them build this, there.

How about we just send them back...

>>131018485
no christianity is about love and nazis killed millions and started a war.

>>131018485
That depends. Where does your loyalty lie? With your man in the sky or with your race that lives and breathes all around you. That's the thing about Christians, they always choose their religion over their race. If they can choose their race while remaining dedicated to their faith then they are more than welcome. If they choose 'muh Judeo-Christian values' and 'muh chosen people on the day of judgement' like Evangelicals than fuck them, let them burn.

>>131018485
If you're a semite like Jesus was, I don't see why not.

>>131018485
If you're living for the volk, you're not living for god.

>>131018485
Of course faggot. All the Larping christ fags here are turn the other cheek cuckservatives. A real christian is one willing to die for his people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_mit_uns

>>131020778
Consider this quote:
>In actual fact the pacifist-humane idea is perfectly all right perhaps when the highest type of man has previously conquered and subjected the world to an extent that makes him the sole ruler of this earth. Then this idea lacks the power of producing evil effects in exact proportion as its practical application becomes rare and finally impossible. Therefore, first struggle and then we shall see what can be done. Otherwise mankind has passed the high point of its development and the end is not the domination of any ethical idea but barbarism and consequently chaos.
Volume 2 Chapter 9

>>131021002
You're really making things hard on yourself.

>>131021315
>mocking the literal words of christ
>calls himself a christian

>>131021002
Why would you choose your race over your religion when God will reward or punish you on the basis of religion you pagan?

No. Nazism contains many occult and satanic practices

>>131021315
I have a problem when Hitler prioritizes the survival of his people over the will of God. The kingdoms of earth are nothing compared to the kingdom of heaven.

>We National Socialists must hold unflinchingly to our aim in foreign policy, namely, to secure for the German people the land and soil to which they are entitled on this earth.
>And this action is the only one which, before God and our German posterity, would make any sacrifices of blood seem justified: before God, since we have been put on this earth with the mission of eternal struggle for our daily bread, beings who receive nothing as a gift, and who owe their position as lords of the earth only to the genius and the courage with which they can conquer and defend it.
Volume 2 Chapter 14

>>131021423
1. I'm not Christian
2. I'm not mocking his words, I am mocking his believers who have taken his words to content with their own cowardice.
3. The bible is all about living for the tribe and for God. That sounds like Nat Soc to me.

>>131018485
Italian and Spanish facism had Christian roots due to its catholic unity

German facism didn't due to conflict between Catholicism and protestantism and nazis adopted a neo pagan ideal(aryan) to unify its people

>>131018485
Yes. I am christian. Hitler was christian and nazi Germany was christian.

>>131021404
Hitler may have been non religious but that doesn't mean that there weren't many in his army that weren't.

>Everyone is equal under god

>Only the ubermensch deserve to breed children

>be both nazi an christian.

>Larper too dumb to even see this childishly simple inconsistency.

>>131021705
Jesus says that following him means making an enemy of your mother and father and brothers and sisters.

>Whoever loves his father more than me is not worthy of me.

It's contradictory to natsoc

>>131018485
It depends on which parts of the Nazi platform you support. Intentionally killing innocent people is obviously inconsistent with Christianity. So are the pagan elements some tried to introduce. But now that Nazis have such a bad name, why would you even try? Why not just take the elements which are consistent with Christianity and create a new movement?

>>131018485
since the vast majority of germany was christian, I guess the answer is yes

>>131021822
good to hear

i think the official nazi larper shit test should be ''Are you a pagan?''. if he says yes he larps

>>131022136
The faithful can turn away from God.
>>131021894
Does the Western idea of equality equate to God's idea of equality?
When God made the Jews His Chosen people was he treating all races equal?
When the Bible talks about the good slave master does it not endorse it?

being an hitler supporter, no. Hitler hated the catholic church and wanted to exterminate it. he also wanted to ethnically remove poles and czechs and colonize eastern europe with germans which is immoral according to christian teaching. however being a catholic and patriotic of your german heritage and society is allowed even if you lived under nazi controlled germany.

>>131021836

This is not true read mein kampf to see how religious he was , he was a fan of martin luther also

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>>131021404
>>131021540
Quotes from this

>>131021502
I'm not a LARPing Pagan. Why would you choose a big man in the sky who you can't prove is real over your living breathing race who actually depend on you my Christcuck friend.

>>131022518
im not a nazi but im a white nationalist and i believe in God. I dont know why it cant be both

>>131018485
no, racism is a jewish invention, what do you think it means to be gods chosen people?

don't fall for the whole (((racial supremacy))) meme

>>131021404
GOD i just want HITLER to be alive TODAY. I SWEAR TO GOD I WANT SOMEONE TO BE JSUT LIE HIM TODAY FUCK MY LIFE THAT THIS ISN'T REAL

>>131022552
I don't know where you're getting this whole hating Catholics thing.

And where does it say that conquest is a bad thing in the Bible? God told the Jews to ethnically cleanse all Canaanites.

>>131018485
What's a true Christian?

>>131023077
God has noted your wishes, but He said deal with it.

>>131023293
Someone who's #1 consideration is the will of God.

>>131023417
How do you go about understanding what that is? Also, did the Jews not break covenant with God and lose Judea? How can you say that this isn't just a continuation of breaking covenant with God?

>>131023824
christ is logos. Logos is essentially the divine truth of then universe. If you accept this order to be true and live life a way that reflects that, you are a chrstian

the jews broke the covenant by not accpeting jesus. he is the son of the same god they worshipped and by rejecting him they rejecting logos and devoted their exitence to rejecting logos

>>131018485
SAGE AND REPORT
"NAZI" IS SIGNLING FOR COMMIE BY SHAREBLUE
STOP SOCIALISM
STOP COMMUNISM
NAZI FAG MEMES ARE TRYING TO MAKE YOU SOCIALIST

POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU POEM 4 YOU

HITLER WAS A WEAK FAG
GOEBBELS WAS A JEW
JEWS DID WWII

>>131023824
Read the Bible ideally.

God stopped being racially exclusive after Jesus. So if the Jews turn to Jesus they won't be cursed.

>>131022833
Don't you acknowledge the Old Testament as the Word of God? If so, how could you refuse the idea of God discriminating racially?

>>131024050
I understand the philosophy behind it, but when we talk about will, we necessarily have accept a cosmic force determining an event or act (prayer to God for intervention in some way is a sort of bargaining with with this same force implies the same),

>>131024196
Then what's your gripe with National Socialism as a religious contradiction? It could well be that Jewish persecution from the 3rd Reich was, indeed, the will of God, and of they could well be Gods servants in this. There were plenty of Christian National Socialists anyway.

>>131024196
Also, God being racially exclusive just means that anyone can be Christian. Nowhere on the bible does it say that multicultural or multiracial societies are just right on.

>>131018485
No. A Christian cannot advocate for the murder of his fellow man.

>>131024743
If conversion of the Jews can cure their sinful nature, then there wouldn't be any warrant to exterminating them. This would go against Hitler's belief that Jews are biologically conditioned to be craven.

Yes it being a nazi in almost as good as a crusader

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biblically speaking no

we are all created in the image of God, meaning we are equals, the bible speaks against racism in a few other ways while addressing Jews and Gentiles. You can look up the issue on google for more information.

>>131025017
Well of course the Bible doesn't state that Jews are biologically bad. That's not to say that this isn't an extension of their curse though. That it's completely possible that the 3rd Reich was for that purpose as much as, say, previous Catholic Inquisition were.

>>131024925
If a multicultural society lead to more people becoming Christian, a believer would have to support it.

In order for National Socialism to be consistent with Christianity it would have to guarantee the greatest number of believers.

>>131025014
Obviously, there's some theological exceptions in warfare.

Who did Hitler murder?

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>>131018485
yes

>>131025142
You're confusing equality of one's spirit with equality of worldly possessions. Slavery is not rebuked once in the Bible. Not even in the New Testament.

How could racial hierarchy not be viewed as Biblical?

>>131025363
But we've been clearly seeing that Multicultural societies don't produce this, but rather undermines the Church. Look at the state of it since mass immigration.

>If it leads to more conversion
Let me tell of this thing we like to call a Missionary.

>>131025333
>>131025644

I don't know how hardcore nat soc you are, but if you don't advocate for extermination of Jews, just separation, I think that is fine.

>>131025644
Here's the fix. Why should we be spending our time reviving ethnic identities rather than a new state built on the Church?

>>131025494
TRUE CHRISTIANITY

>>131024467
not necesarily

if you assume that every prayer leads to intervention than I suppose, but I guess we'd have to start talking about how go actually works then

>>131026425
true christianity? there are about 7,000 versions of true christianity.

and all the groups he mentioned were mostly catholic.

>>131026298
I'm not a National Socialist, I'm a pro-white Fascist. There should be a homeland for everyone, and I'm more about expelling the Jewry to Israel than mass executions, and not allowing them back.

>Reviving Ethnic Identity
There's is no contradictions in being a Christian and Identitarian anymore than there's is a contradiction in being a Christian and Conservative. Its not like your brain can't handle either. That being said, Identity is the only thing cushioning what's left of the Church in Europe.

>>131020778
Have you ever read the bible? Lmao

>>131026825
I'm not asking whether or not Christians can be Nazis.

I'm asking whether your interpretation of Christianity is consistent with National Socialism.

>>131026687
I don't mean bargaining as in a deal is always being made and carried through. I literally mean bargaining, not making contracts or anything. Prayer itself isn't always even a bargaining though, so I get your point.

>>131024423
because god's message of who the "chosen people" were was changed when jesus made the world the new israel

>>131026425
yes
the same ppl that would belong to a church would likely join the nazis

it's a us vs them mentality.
in groups and out groups

>>131021522
Nothing satanic about you retard.

>>131018485
No, no race is superior to the other in Christianity. Hitler often cursed religion

>>131022247
No one fucking larps like at a nerd convention you fucking christ cucks. And so the fuck what any how?

>>131027161
The New Testament is very clear only that Christianity is open to all people. However, it is very ambiguous about earthly matters that come to race.
Surely you can accept an African as a fellow Christian and still disapprove him marrying your daughter. Why is that not consistent with the Bible?

>>131026928
Yes, Christianity is intertwined with ethnic cultures in Europe. And yes, if you erode those cultures you erode the Church.

But, its not exactly like ethnic Christian Kingdoms are the best for the Church. They've been killing each other for centuries.

Why wouldn't you want to find a better solution where we avoid this bloodshed? By making the Church supreme and race irrelevant?

>>131027436
But evolution is a fact and thus christanity is false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV4Xh8yfbn0

>>131021540
Allah paradise is better than your kingdom of heaven. Checkmate christcuck.

>>131027177
You didn't really reply to this >>131027030
people can fall away from their beliefs to the false promises of the world and its men.

>>131021002
I really don't want this to be true, but it is

>>131027975
it can be consistent with the bible and not be, at least I meant it earlier, (((racial supremacy)))

all I meant was don't conflate visions of racial superiority with some sort of utopian ideal. there are people of varying character of worth, groups of varying character and worth, it only stands to reason the races would form an ordered list, but they all carry the same potential to follow logos and be good christians

I wouldn't say segregation is biblically forbidden, again, it kind of just has to stay away from separating races a means of purity, cause that would imply a utopia. segregation in the name of peace and stability I'm cool with

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>>131028488
yes

>>131028225

>>131028225
Freedom in sin is slavery. Just look at the world today.

>>131027975
When we discuss what's best for the Church, the view becomes somewhat subjective. In Earthly matters, the Bible doesn't discuss this because the erosion of borders and ethnicities simply isn't the goal. I think most of us can see what a disaster this train of thought has become, and it's like putting a roof on a house with no frames. The Church itself, I don't believe, is a proper substitute for nationhood or identity. Rather one should inform te other. The Christian Kingdoms fighting each other would just be substituted for a rave war. God doesn't make race irrelevant to man, it's just irrelevant in his eyes. A Christian Somali doesn't get a free travel ticket because he's Christian.

>>131028225
wow, some people are out campaigning hard to end mass murder of babies, how horrible

fuck off leaf

>>131029209
ever notice it's the same ppl that go on and on about how they don't give a shit about other ppl?
everyman for themselves?
if you don't do well in society it's because you're a loser?

they only care about other ppl fetuses. they couldn't care less if the child has a good school or food/medical care.

ever notice that part?

>>131029565
>>131029565
>comparing an unborn fetus to some idiot who has made choice or some idiots living kid who the idiot she be responsible for

how is stopping someone from getting killed before they learn to talk in any way the moral equivalent of making sure they succeed in life

nice troll response you retarded cunt, here's your fucking (You)

>>131029209
I think, they think, it makes them look like they have morals. but it's a pretty thin veil

>>131028596
There's a difference between racial supremacy and racial hierarchy.

God makes people with certain genetic abilities and they benefit to different degrees. Would it be Biblical to have a society where races are given different resources and authority, but still be treated with the same spiritual value?

>>131029151
I agree with 90% of what your saying. Just one concern.

Are you saying that ethnic states are the best practical method of growing Christianity?

Or are you saying that the ethnic states are the best morally?

And if a form of society rose that benefited the church, but eradicated any racial identity (Completely Hypothetical) would you choose it?

>>131029864
proof you don't really give a shit or think about the parents that have to raise that fetus.

why do you think you should you get a say in someone elses family planing ?

>>131030019
>Relying to yourself
>spelling ppl

Your retardation asides, you're presuming people don't care about a problem because they don't agree with our particular solutions. That's stupidity.

>>131018485
I don't think so. They were pagans, weren't they?

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My wife and I are white evangelicals. Here’s why we chose to give birth to black triplets

This past Sunday, my gorgeous wife – a white evangelical, like me — gave birth to our beautiful African-American triplet daughters whom we adopted as embryos. These sweet girls will hopefully soon be coming home to meet their 3-year-old African-American brother and 2-year-old biracial sister, both of whom we adopted as infants. The normalcy of this paragraph is something I have come to take for granted. Yet what seems to us to be the logical outcome of being pro-life is still something that to others often needs much explaining.

I grew up as a child of evangelical missionaries in Honduras, very aware of racial diversity because I was the blue-eyed, cotton-topped white kid who stuck out like a sore thumb, but all the while felt deeply connected to the people there, even though we looked very different. My wife, on the other hand, grew up in the delta of Mississippi and it wasn’t until she took a few trips to Haiti that the veil of racial prejudice was lifted from her eyes. One of the central themes of Christianity is, after all, that God, through His Son, is calling people from every tongue, tribe and nation. Grasping diversity will make the world stronger as we marvel at God’s creative genius on display through His people’s varying pigments, personalities and proficiencies. Our differences are cause for celebration, not scorn.

>>131030133
>Would it be Biblical to have a society where races are given different resources and authority, but still be treated with the same spiritual value?
It's tricky, I mean alotting resources makes me say no, but alotting authority sounds okay I suppose

I'm not really a biblical master, just trying to avoid some pretty fundamental sins


>>131030217
>being this stupid
if you seriously think that saying a baby shouldn't be killed by its parents is "invasive family planning" you should hang your god damn self yesterday

>>131018485
>Can Someone be a True Christian and a Nazi?
No, because the Bible clearly stipulates that Christians are not allowed to discriminate against other Christians based on things such as race or ethnicity. White ethnostates are forbidden by the Lord if you're to exclude other Christians from living in it (black, hispanic etc). Any true Christian knows this and if you're to lie about it, or appropriate the words of the Lord wrongly, then you're either a fake Christian or a bad person which will result in punishment for you. Don't be a sinner, be a winner is what I was taught.

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>>131030393
When we were still dating, a common bond that drew us together was the fact that Rachel and I both wanted to adopt. While we were fertile, we were both deeply convicted that one of the ways to be pro-life is to involve ourselves in adoption. Several years into our marriage, even as we were pursuing the idea of returning to Honduras as missionaries with the Presbyterian Church in America, we visited an adoption agency in Mississippi, where we were living at the time. We were also trying at the time to conceive naturally. Knowing that it is often more challenging to find adoptive homes in the United States for non-Caucasian children we informed the agency that we were willing to accept any child except a fully Caucasian child. We did this with the deeply held conviction that if the Lord wanted us to have a fully Caucasian child my wife would conceive naturally.

When we began the adoption process we knew race could play a major role in our family dynamics, which led us to ponder deeply what a racially diverse family would look like. We believe when you look into any human’s eyes, you look into the face of an image-bearer of God – into the eyes of a person whose soul is eternal. While that is the common thread of all humanity, it doesn’t mean our racial differences are insignificant. We see the human family’s varying physical characteristics as awesome reminders of God’s creative brilliance. It’s not that we think race doesn’t exist, or that we don’t see it. In fact, it’s the opposite – we see it, and we embrace it.

>>131018485
Not trying to troll I don`t know if is what you are asking but why anyone want to be a Nazi nowadays, I think white people has to unite globally in a new form of mutual respect.

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>>131030497
There is something beautiful and enriching being the only white face sitting and chatting with some of my African-American friends as my son gets his hair cut. There is also something wonderful in the relationship that is built as my wife asks a black friend on Facebook how to care for our biracial daughter’s hair. The beauty of a multi-ethnic family is found there, in the fact that the differences are the very thing that make ours richer and fuller. It forces you to think in a new way about the way you think, speak, act and live.

When we met with the NEDC, we were again faced with the question of what ethnicity we would choose for our adopted embryos. We wanted additional siblings to feel connected to our first two children racially, and asked the team at the NEDC if we could be matched with African-American embryos. They agreed with our thoughts about our kids matching each other racially and were supportive of the decision to select African American embryos.

In September of last year, we had two embryos implanted and began the long wait to see whether the transfer was successful. The day to visit the doctor could not come fast enough. Six weeks after the transfer we made a very nervous trip to the local hospital in Honduras, where we were serving as full-time missionaries. We began to describe everything to our doctor in broken Spanish. He asked us a few times if we were sure that we had transferred two embryos. Yes, of course we were sure, we said. However, one of those embryos had split in two inside Rachel’s womb. She was indeed pregnant- not only with twins, but triplets!

I felt sheer delight during this pregnancy watching my son and daughter, with his dark brown skin and her with the ringlet hair and slightly tan skin, kiss my white wife’s growing belly. Each evening they said good night to those three growing little girls in her belly, and now they get to finally say sweet dreams to their baby sisters — face-to-adorable-face.

>>131030273
wow. so you do care about other ppl?


I thought you were just a shallow prig.

>>131030133
At the height of Christian influence, most countries were fairly homogeneous. The more mass travelling occurred, the weaker it became. Missions not only spread Christianity, but did so without fracturing it's starting points. Allowing in whoever is not only not guarantee of conversion, but fractures society. An ethnic state, in the content of Christian doctrine, is neither moral or immoral. Its only outside of Christian doctrine that it can be argued.

>>131030477
saying a baby ? your a goddamn hero.

forcing ppl to have kids no one wants because ?

>>131030950
because no one wants you either, but i still think it would be a sin to kill you

>>131030480
Source for this. Scripture doesn't even address such a thing.

It always was only a papist infiltration of former Christian Prussia, and since papists are heretics, no, O.P. No, one cannot.

>>131031009
a sin? oh, forcing others to raise kids they don't want because of your superstition?

>>131030950
seriously though, LIFE is a fucking burden, why am I supposed to allow murder to occur so irresponsible fucks who can;t wear a condom have an even easier time at life, it's crazy that people think like this
>>131031127
;^)

>>131031203
>allow
who the fuck are you again?

>>131031262
haha
i forgot, in MY country citizens get a say in the law, thats probably a strange concept for you

>>131031127
Are you seriously trying to equate not rejecting responsibility to murder? Not even leads are this stupid, where are you really from?

>>131031334
a say. luckly they don't allow any idiot make them.

you wouldn't be one of them small government folks?

>>131030555
Just so you know, everyone is going to assume your wife keeps fucking Niggers, and she might as well be at this point.

>>131030889

Abrahamic religion is a Jewish-Jedi-mind trick. Think about it, both Constantine and Mohamed established their faith in a Civil War.

Islam was created because at the time the Jews had backed the Persian Empire against Byzantine, and the Persians had lost the war. Enter Mohammad and Islam.

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christcucks explain this

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>>131031530
>a say. luckly they don't allow any idiot make them.

good night everyone

>>131031452
Are you seriously trying to equate not rejecting responsibility to murder?

I don't know


what that means

>>131031091
Galatians 3:28
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Deuteronomy 10:17
17 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.

Acts 10:34
34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality,

Romans 2:11
11 For God shows no partiality.

Ephesians 6:9
9 Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him.

James 2:8
8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well.

Ephesians 2:14
14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility

John 13:34
34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.

Ephesians 4:32
32 Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

Romans 6:13
13 Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.

How can you call yourself a Christian and not know this? Try appropriating the words or denying it. See how far that gets you when your time comes before him.

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>>131018485

No,

Nazism is a secular/psuedo-pagan (SS only) ideology

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>>131030477
Differences in authority would mean varying amounts of resources.
Ex: The president should have servants cooking and cleaning for him, because he needs to focus on his job.

>>131030480
SPIRITUAL EQUALITY DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO WORLDLY EQUALITY

>>131030480
>>131030497
>>131030555

These posts aren't very related if you don't argue that what these people did is mandated in Christianity.
I don't think "diversity" is.

>diversity will make the world stronger as we marvel at God’s creative genius on display through His people’s varying pigments, personalities and proficiencies.

Does NOT warrant race mixing or even racial equality.

>Our differences are cause for celebration, not scorn.

They are destroying the differences they are celebrating.

Their contradictory theology doesn't represent any kind of Biblical teaching.

>>131031592
>Abrahamic religion
That's heresy, Anon.

>>131030889
you didn't answer his question.

Does it make you uncomfortable to know that your prideful ethnocentrism is dearer to you than Christ, who gives you life?

>>131031615
I said any idiot. he got elected to make them.
and he didn't think the government should try to ban abortion.

he did a poll and 87% of the public said no.
the state and church should mind their own business.
if you wanna save babies go to an orphanage.

To me, claiming christianity is equivalent to the statement of openly publicizing ones own weakness, as with pride. It is almost pathetic to the point of amusement how these christians seek approval from their peers for their fantasies that they know only exist in their minds. I must say that the only thing that comforts me in their delusion is their almost absurd avoidance of reminder of the impermanency of life, hence this confirms to me their vacant inborn fear. This if anything would amuse me in their struggle for filling that void of eternal irrelevance. To be complete, they are the eternally irrelevant factor for the protection of me and more importantly my people.

>>131031615
I thinkthe anti abortion crowd is really about punishing ppl for having sex isn't it?

>>131018485
Christianity lends itself best to communism or liberal socialism.at least the New Testament. I'm not touching the OT because it's nonsense when paired with the NT. If you took the Nazis' concept of "positive Christianity" you might make it work, but that requires some revisionism. Basically there is a slave mentality in Christianity. Nothing is yours, you never achieved anything nor can you (by yourself, it all belongs to God in the end), and the strong, powerful and rich are all destined to be brought down to the same level as everyone else. Most cucked belief system I know of. Christians used to have a sense of arrogance and entitlement that balanced it out, after all, they are God's people. They are given life and everything we value because they are special. Now with Vatican II they aren't special. Everyone can go to heaven, everyone can be a good person, doesn't matter your faith. All the strong points disappeared then and not it's just a religion for those who wish to be cucked spiritually.

I used to be a Catholic but was turned off by the universal forgiveness they teach. You can't hate or resent people. They are judged by God (though we don't really believe in hell anymore so whatever) so humans should avoid trying to do his job for him. Just keep them from harming innocents but beyond that let's be nice to the unrepentant murdering rapist. They're made in God's image too, ya know.

It's pretty sad when the Westboro Baptists are closer to the mark than the largest Christian denomination

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nope. christianity is a universalist cult born out a messianic jewish fanatical preacher.

it is jewish, it is universalist, it preaches an afterlife negating the existing world and praises meekness, pacifism, poverty, sterility, as it's values

this is all contradictory to natsoc, and to every self respecting man who is aware what must be done.

>>131031668
Thx for the verses.

I think your making a false connection. All these verses only address spiritual value.

Nowhere do these verses talk about physical treatment between races.

A president and a bartender can have the same value to God, but he still gives them different resources and responsibilities, because he made them differently.

If God also made races differently, why should we feel its wrong when the same inequality of worldly possessions occurs?

>>131032526
it's about controlling ppl

>>131032761
This is interesting. Hadn't thought of the nullification of the real world. Natsoc probably requires a materialist outlook. Any collectivist ideology, actually.

>>131021002
If your race had a culture like niggers, where stealing, lying,cheating and sleeping around was encouraged, would you still choose your race over the ideals of Christianity? Only a fool would choose skin color over ideals that build family, community and nation. As it stands today, whites stand for feminism, corruption, homosexuality, nihilism, atheism and immorality. I would rather choose Christianity than what the modern whites stand for today.

>>131018485
The catholic church never excommunicated Hitler.

So, there is your answer.

>>131033116
Hitler just accientally wanted the pope assasinated and the vatican just accidentally hid away jews.

Keep LARPing mate.

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>>131032903

imo it's universalism that is the biggest danger. it stands against tribalism, against discrimination, pro equality under one god, it already starts in the bible with an apostle baptising a black ethiopian eunuch who, because he was splashed with water is now a brother in the faith.

>>131018485
Hitler was Islamic so no

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Christianity=communism

>>131032209
>>131032697
Here come the late night atheists.

You don't worship God, your highest priority, and only consideration is survival, right?

If Christianity and other religions are so weak, how come they dominate the all societies on the planet?

Can you name to me one athiest state in History that hasn't collapsed?

Humans are biologically conditioned to believe in a higher power, what makes you think humanity has the ability to abandon it?

>>131033058
>immorality
>homosexuality
>corruption
>feminism
Sounds like the largest Christian denomination and oldest Christian institution to me. You're confusing whites being at the forefront of the evolution of politics with being degenerate as a whole. Almost all significant political developments have been in areas inhabited by caucasoid people. Both democracies and republics have their roots in Ancient Greece. In the same way the enfranchisement of women and other stuff came first in the west not because it's a core value but because it was untread ground and everything finds its way to the surface in the west first. A symptom, you could say. Christianity on the other hand is a belief system and thus all the bad things associated with it are fundamental, not coincidental.

Also, from an evolutionary perspective not favoring your own ethnicity above others is the large scale equivalent of cuckoldry. I mean that literally.

>>131032768
No one's telling you that you must race-mix and procreate, but ethnostate and the justification of mistreatment or exclusion of Christians who are "different" to you is against His word. You can misinterpret every verse shown to you, but that doesn't mean you're right. I hope you get on the right path one day my brother.

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>>131033792

ironic that you say that while sporting the dixie flag.

>Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord: He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored; He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword

BASED BLACK MEN

>>131033665
The laws of nature don't ensure that the strongest are also the most fit. Bacteria are pathetic compared to us, though they have a better chance of outliving us than we do them. Think about it. If being intelligent (what separates us from animals and what most people pride themselves on) were the best evolutionary trait we wouldn't be the only sapient species. All information systems work the same way. The most popular religion isn't the best one, unless you're saying the Christian faith headed by your homosexual loving pope is the best version?

Your point about our psychological tendencies is good though. We need ritual and spirituality. That doesn't necessitate organized religion. Even more laughable is the idea that it necessitates your particular version of organized religion. Muslims seem just as content spiritually. I guess Allah is just as good as your version of the big guy

It'll always come down to you just liking your faith more and coming up with half-hearted rationalizations for other people's sake

>>131033665
holy shit
survival and pleasure.
how come they dominate the all societies on the planet? what choice did ppl have?

Can you name to me one athiest state in History that hasn't collapsed? roman empire collapsed right after they adopted christianity

name a religious society that hasn't collapsed

biologically conditioned?

>>131025363
False, god split humans up and made them each speak a different language. Multicultural societies are against the will of god.

>>131018485
Does that handshake check out ok?
if thats a masonic handshake hes satanic

>>131018485

No
The bible teaches us to love thy neighbor and that we are our brother's keeper

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>>131034305

what god is that? the same one that says there is neither jew nor greek? the one who says the jews are the blessed people? the god who commands abraham to cut his penis? the god that made all different people hear the same language at pentecost? the god who says salvation is from the jews? the god who says that all the nations will bow to zion? the god that tells you to turn the other cheek and love your enemies?

>>131034456
not many christians like that these days

>>131034512
I'm just quoting shit from the bible. If God created different races, why are people shitting on his work and trying to destroy what he made. This is how you are able to identify real Christians from the larpers.

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>>131034456
>>131034456

>>131034456
Neighbor = Countrymen
Niggers in Africa are not your neighbor.

>>131031668
This doesn't have anything to do with with ethno nationalism, it has everything to do with recognizing there is God before it. This is matter of spirituality. Look at it this way. You have multiple sons. Though you see them all as your sons equally, this doesn't mean that they don't have rule over thier houses, or should permanently house your other sons.

It's possible but you'd have to be borderline mentally retarded to think you're logically consistent.

>>131034151
I framed the question poorly, There isn't one society that has been founded on Atheism. Sure there are fairly secular states now, but their foundations are religious. You think that is just a coincidence? Atheist have an abysmal record for not behaving selfishly. Unsustainable birth rates, zero loyalty, and a general hostility to idealism.

>>131034118

People like you like to scorn religion, but you're unavoidable married to it. Hitler recognized it was the best form of solidarity among the masses, which is why he referenced God in ways that supported his ideology.

If you value survival so much, why don't you become more religious?

>>131032050
I answered his question fully, your just dedicated to not internalizing what I've said because it challenges your preconceived notions.

starting to realize the nationalist have their own version of freedom, countryman and christianity

>>131034813
I like this

>>131035119
>their foundations are religious You think that is just a coincidence?
what other options were there?

Atheist have an abysmal record for not behaving selfishly. Unsustainable birth rates, zero loyalty, and a general hostility to idealism.
proof?

>>131035213
>Hurrr ppl

>Duurrr u no care

>Hurrr Muh abortion rights

You're morality is plastic, and I doubt you believe anyway.

>>131018485
Christianity must come first.

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>>131034807

>if God created people who are born with a disease, why do people try to cure that disease. why do they shit on his work and try to destroy what he made


>I'm just quoting shit from the bible

where in the bible does jesus condemn racemixing? where does he advocate self defense and self preservation?

>>131018485
a nazi is a member of the NSDAP, since it doesn't exist anymore, no, you can't be nazi, just a LARPer

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>>131018485

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>>131035476

showing your true colors.

question; would you rather have your daughter marry a black christian, or a white atheist?

Decline of religion in the West has led to a steady drop in native populations.

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>>131035723

>>131025627

I wasn't talking about worldly possessions?

>>131035403
>You're morality is plastic,
that's funny. and you're probably a hypocrite .

I doubt you believe anyway. religion? I don't.

>>131035489
Jesus doesn't condemn it, but you'll find God in the Old Testament behaving very fashy.

Ex: Ethnic cleansing of Canaan commanded by God. Jews disobeyed with one kingdom, and God designated them subordinate to Jews as servants, making the Samaritans.

>>131035723
rasing the standard of living does that in every demographic

>>131018485
no

Galatians 3:28

>>131036042
Yes, materialism has caused the decrease in religion, but its not the reason for people having less kids.

Nothing is stopping people from having 20 kids. In fact, its easier than ever. If there were the same social pressures (based in religion) now as there were 100 years ago, people would be having more kids instead of fapping and using condoms.

>>131036122
>no slave nor free
well i guess that settles that then

>>131036122
Very surface level interpretation. Read the thread.

>>131036416
>le interpretation meme
You can't interpretate that in diffrent way than "hurr durr we are equal for we are all in christ!11111!!", and this is not compatible with NatSoc at all.

>>131036346
but ppl would rather take better care of the 1 or 2 they have. we have social security now, we don't depend on our children taking care of us in old age

>>131036541
The average child per family in Germany is 1.4.(below 2 is the norm for all of Europe) If a population stays like that for a century, it will die out.

When Atheists are comfortable, there's little reason to think about the future.

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>>131036534
Spiritual equality does not equality in worldly materials. Get on my level bitch.

>>131020504
This is the only way, no genocides. Even then it's pretty iffy.

>>131036963
>Spiritual equality does not mean equality of worldly materials.

>>131036963
Yes, because "spiritualy" is a meme, and worldly materials is what actually matters.

>>131036885
>population stays like that for a century, it will die out.
so? it's freedom.

>>131037106
You can think its bullshit all you want, but we're talking about the intention of the Bible, which is obviously spiritual.

I don't feel any obligation to have a bunch of kids for somebody else's god or idea of what a great country would look like

>>131018485
Yes sir. The death camps were pure fiction, man. Us Nazis are just trying to take pride in ourselves without bringing anybody else down.

>>131018485
What's a True Christian?

>>131037352
It doesn't matter, because you can't be a NatSoc who believes, that the creator of the universe loves jewish people (Romans 11:28), and promotes IN COMPLETELY SECULAR WAY TOLERATING FOREIGNERS IN YOUR COUNTRY (Leviticus 19:34)

>>131037134
You seem to be indicating you're okay with that, because its people's free will.

Which would prove my point that Atheists and their societies are not survivable.

>>131037511
Neither are Christian societies. Your all just breeding like crazy until Armageddon happens.

>>131037511
>You seem to be indicating you're okay with that, because its people's free will.
yes

their societies are not survivable. any proof?

you sound like you think ppl are stupid animals that should be told what to do. but for what purpose? your god? the state?

>>131037511
we are all here to be cogs in the wheel for the sky fairy?

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This is actually a good thread.

>Hard and deep thinking
>Good pictures
>Many opinions from many different people

Thanks /pol/, this place was getting degenerate

the whole struggle of western civilization was to be free of the church/state running our lives

>>131037507
Trying to agree with you is hard.

>>131037668
There's obviously a balance between too much emphasis on procreation and too little. You're exaggerating regardless.

>>131037764
Proof?
There are societies founded on secular principles in the entire history of the world, and you admitted there is no problem with birthrates that lead to extinction.

Well according to you, people come up with their own purposes for their lives. Natural selection picks the ones that are the most survivable, and that's what we have today.

That worldview sounds a hell of a lot more animialistic than God in our image giving us a reason to live.

>>131018485
>can someone be a true faggot and a nazi?

>>131037908
thx. It's harder, and more time consuming than I thought it would be.

>>131038391
luckily you can impose your god on anyone.

you think you know what's best for others?

>>131038391
668 here

>Sex is only for procreation.
+
>Jesus will come back and end the world.
=
Breeding like crazy until Armageddon.

>>131038672
God does. I'm just continuing the tradition that has brought us to where we are now.

>>131038672
>can't* impose your god on anyone.

I see religion as a kind of psychological slavery

>>131039178
>I'm just continuing the tradition that has brought us to where we are now.

Speaking for god because god can't speak.

>>131039228
Everyone is a slave to nature. You obey its wishes or you die. Or you can choose to be a willing servant of a god.

>>131039308
There's a chance that none of our thoughts are ours. You don't know shit.

You can't be a nazi and a Christian period. Don't try to adjust God's teachings to your inner hatred that you have towards people of other races.

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>>131039308
fighting to get away from religion control got us to where we are today.

Or you can choose to be a willing servant of a god. really, you don't have to obey the laws of nature?

>>131040423
>Islam starts here

>>131018485
No. As others have said, for Nazis the own race comes first. Not God, not other Christians. It's a pagan mentality, the Nazi top were Nordaboos for a reason. If the Reich had continued, they would've phased out the worship of a Semite desert deity.

>>131018485
No you cant be True Christian and Nazi. You should read bible and you will find answers. Leaders of nazi Germany were opposition against Jesus same like Satan.

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>>131036009

yea. a jewish god commanding his jewish chosen tribe of people. shocking


meanwhile christianity turns the other cheek sees no difference between greek and jew, the early church had all things in common, eunuch can enter the kingdom of heaven , you have to love those who hate you,...