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/pol's stance on transgendered people

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Now, I understand there are only 2 genders, male and female, but what do we do about transgendered people like Bruce Jenner. Are they still a man, or have they gone to be a woman since that is still one of the two genders. Help me understand /pol i want to be sure I have correct information.
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Mentally.
Fucking.
Ill.
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>>131016419
I would fugg Bruce in his boipucci
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So a man with a mental disorder confirmed?
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>>131016419
i wonder how his Father's Day was
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>>131016419
Sorry, psych/ neuromajor and ex-liberal... it's mental illness....
think about it, without plastic surgeons and endocrinologists though could never change, and suicide rates do not change in this population even with full transition.
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Now I understand that spiders and dogs are two different species. But what do we do about the dogs wearing spider suits? Are they still a dog or have they gone to be a spider since that is still one of the two species? Help me understand
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>>131016419
what makes people transgender? like is it a birth right, or the result of some kind of psychological decay or intense mental duress, or is literally "i wanna be a girl!" and boom transgender.

this is vary important in evaluating trannies because i can kinda tolerate them if they are born that way (and pass). But if its just some next level faggotry trendy shit then they deserve the gas
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>>131016419
>people
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>>131016419
it's fun to dump your load in a cute trap, hitler would agree
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>>131016419
he's a dude larping as a chick, end of story. nature decides the hand you're dealt, not you yourself.
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Please help me I dont understand, Is this still a dog or is it a scorpion now? I understand that there's no such as dog-scorpions but what the hell is this?
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Is this still a dog or is it now become lion? Please help. What is happening
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>>131016819
There are diff kinds. I'm the former - I was always like this, from like 5. Others give it to themselves from porn, masturbation, other conditioning things online like MMO's, and so on. Then there's the NB crowd, the Tumblrites. I don't pretend to understand them much, although I'm sure a few are actually legit.
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>>131016419
Some are hot, but I know in the back of my mind it's all fake. Remove the makeup and implants and there goes the attraction. Definitely a confusing thing, though.
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It's 99 faggots using the plight of 1 hermaphrodite to normalize their sin.
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>>131016419
This is something I explain to a lot of open - minded middle ground people I find in colleg

Trans people are the same sex, the only have drugged themselves with hormones and surgically
changed cosmetic aspects of themselves to APEAR as the opposite sex.

These people still have the XX or XY chromosome that are widely accepted by biology to determine sex

Trans suicide rate is 40%, the depression rate is probably much higher. In Comparison, the Suicide rate of
Jews in "Holohoax" camps was 20%. Because I find it hard to believe that trans people are oppressed worse
than People being put to death. They are most likely krilling themselves due to depression caused by a severe
identity crisis.

They tend to think surgery helps, but actually the suicide rate is much higher after surgery is much higher when
they realize nothing has changed and they are still in crisis.
>Pic related

Tl;Dr

Trans people are the most hardcore LARPers on the planet and kill themselves after realizing they will never
be able to leave the LARP community
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>>131017519
well at least the 40% saves us somewhat of a headache
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>>131016819
>>131017292
It's simply a mental illness, what would you say if I claimed to be something I'm clearly not?

Gender is biological, it's not something you get to choose. Even if I act like a girl and do some plastic surgery, I'm just a faggot who chopped off his dick
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>>131017292
seriously though, like from the earliest age you can remember you thought you nowhere the opposite sex?

you never ounce thought "maybe im just delusional" you have literally always thought you where the wrong sex and accepted it?
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>>131016419
I do not give a shit about trannies till they cut their genitals off.

When they do it is best to put them in the oven.
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>>131017519
>Because I find it hard to believe that trans people are oppressed worse
than People being put to death.

Hey listen, I hate trannies as much as the next guy buuut. . . I've got news for you anon
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>>131016419
Who cares? As long as they're good people it doesn't matter.
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>>131017120
calling it a dog is macho and offensive, calling it a scorpion is racist and offensive, calling it a dog-scorpion is showing you don't understand, you show no empathy.
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>>131016419
>Are they still a man

Yes.
If you castrate your male house cat, it's still a male house cat - a castrated male house cat.
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>>131016419
>Now, I understand there are only 2 genders
There are two sexes. Stop using gender as a synonym for sex.
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>>131016419
Transgenderism is a neurological disorder/mental illness in which a brain develops to resemble the opposite physiological gender to that of their body. This creates all kinds of psychological and emotional issues that can be crippling/debilitating and therefore changing ones hormones and appearance to become more comfortable in one's own skin becomes preferable to living in discomfort through repression, even if it makes other people uncomfortable or disrupts their life/irritates the ignorant.

However, no, there is no way to ever TRULY change your sex, there are only two sexes and they are static, but gender IDENTITY is a spectrum of expression by which people interpret those two objective sexes, and changing your position on that can make you FEEL infinitely better about yourself if you have these illnesses,
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>>131018678
http://www.academia.edu/22116127/The_Intersex_Brain_A_Case_for_the_Neurological_Roots_of_Trans_Identity

Reference for the claim I made.
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1. Gender dysphoria probably has existed at some base level forever due to biological causes. Life was probably really shit for these people when no options for dealing with it were available. But even the solutions now available are no guarantee of happiness.
To call these people mentally ill might not be quite right. Or at least we need to distinguish between illnesses that can be cured, and those that can't. For example are autism, ADHD and "sociopathy" always illnesses, or just outlier modes of operation? This is one of those nuanced questions.
2. It is possible, indeed probable that some people construct their sense of alternate/mismatched gender. Or that their experiences/socialisation does this for them. So they end up at some point feeling a bit weird about their gender identity, and with encouragement of other individuals or the overall culture, decide to embrace their feelings as indicative that they must be transgendered. Essentially, they have talked themselves into (or allowed themselves to be talked into) believing they are trans. Some of these people might make drastic changes that may end up making their lives no better, or even worse.

Also, a corollary for you. Way back in the 80's Bi phobia was a thing in gay and lesbian (and straight) communities. So people that felt a bit homo were forced to choose, from both sides. No doubt some made a choice that they weren't comfortable with, or that wasn't best for them. But at least they weren't cutting parts of themselves off.
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>>131016419
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>>131018090
My point is they arent being killed now
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>>131016419
Round them up and euthanize them. It's the only humane choice. Their mental disorder is severe.
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>>131019313
As a trans girl who attempted suicide on multiple occasions when I was younger. There is a sort of hopelessness when you are alone and wrong. There is nowhere to turn when your family, church, and friends all reject you as a person.

Also I imagine more jews would have killed themselves if the Germans weren't already doing it for them.
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Jenner is a man with a mutilated dick and suffering from a self induced abnormal hormone imbalance
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