How do you win a war without air superiority?

you fight it in the tunnels

>>131009142
Fake a holocaust

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>>131009142

Outbreeding, Subversion & Female Manipulation.

http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/

>>131009142
You don't. This is why big infantry numbers, such as China, NK, are increasingly irrelevent with advent of things like drone bombs. You CANNOT effectively use those numbers if your deathcount will be in tens of thousands for every hour spent not ducking and covering. You either provide minimum threat for enemy air or you die.

>>131009421
Ov vey!

>>131009142
Force them to take in illegals and refugees.

>>131009487
Fuck off larper.

>>131009142

You fight in the shade

>>131009142
Shit tonnes of anti air and advanced radar

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>>131009142
muh cyber attacks and hackers. The wizards and warlocks of 21st century warfare

>>131009142
get a respirator

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>>131009487
Not again Frankie

>>131009142
Achieve air-superiority

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An armed citizenry can win any war

>>131009142
tunnels, lots and lots of tunnels

> be near sighted.
> have buckteeth
> live in shitty tunnels under rice paddies
> wait for the democrats to lose the war

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>>131009811
if the nation they fight against cannot use their full strenght, cannot wage a campaign of annihilation, must follow international protocol, and videotape and present a visual documentation of the war to be narrated by jews before consumption.

yes, then an armed citizen can win.

>>131009142
You don't

Air and Naval capacity are far, far more important than ground forces and always have been

The biggest and strongest Empires are the ones that had the best Navy's.

There are exceptions of course, mainly Empires that were so ridiculously strong that they expanded to the point where they controlled the entire flow of goods and didn't have to worry about facilitating international trade see: Rome, which always had a relatively bad Navy and heavily on Its heavy infantry, but also controlled all of the Mediterranean and most of the European Atlantic.

Fabian tactics. You win it via attrition over long periods of time. Vietnam and Iraq proved this method. We hardly took any losses against the Iraqi army in Desert Storm or the 2003 invasion. The losses came from IED and sniping attacks. We'd clear a mudhut village out in Vietnam or Iraq only for them to reoccupy it immediately after we left.
This tactic is straight from the Roman playbook. If Western armies refuse to genocide the population of occupied countries they will continue to suffer defeat. Nothing says "I'm not fucking around" like removing the entire population of a city like the Mongols did. Make it clear that you'll erase a city over minor infractions and the citizens themselves will rat out ANYONE they suspect of even possessing weapons.
Empires in the 18th century had this all down to a science. It's human psychology. The Prisoner dilemma FORCES them to sell out the bad apples to protect themselves.

>>131009142

By encouraging the other side to not reproduce, by promoting homosexuality, feminism, birth control, abortion and promiscuity.

>It's super effective.

>>131009663
Can you hack drones?

>>131009142
Illegal acts of biological and chemical warfare.

>>131009142
What'd one Soviet soldier say to the other?
>Who won the air war anyway?

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>>131009142

You stage a false flag attack and make America be your air force.

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>>131009487
PlanetSide 2 strat I take it?

>>131009142
It's difficult, but doable. It comes down to the different battles and feeding the enemy false information so they send their warplanes out to attack what is essentially a platoon of target dummies, while using that opportunity to strike your enemy's airfields and munitions stores.
There's a lot of counter measures for the situation when air superiority is not yours.

>>131009142
human shields

>>131010241
Implying the invading country doesn't desire intact natural resources, infrastructure, and a populace to do the work extracting the resources.

Emp the attacking nations homeland, navy and allied nations.

Pull all assets into your anti air zone.
Bunker everything you have up.
Essentially North korea defense.

Then wait for the attacking enemy to makes it move.
It comes at you conventionally ..you light your emps off everywhere.

The attacker has to either nuke you or continue its conventional attack against you albeit at a weaker state. If they attack conventionally - you stand a better chance of winning.
If they decide to nuke you - well its game over but you at least fucked your enemy and they can expect 30% population die off.

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>>131009142

>>131009142

Chemicals.

>>131009142

If you can build a strong submarine fleet you can cut off the fuel supply of your enemy so they run out of fuel for their aircraft.

>>131009142
With benis superiority.

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>>131009142
Space superiority

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>>131009142
Space superiority.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-lawmakers-launch-space-corps-legislation

>>131010241

Even if they can't.

Armed citizens can use all kinds of chemical weapons, they aren't bound by ROE.

>>131011143
How simple are EMP's to produce, and how effective are they? From what I know, none have ever been intentionally used in a conflict even though they would be perfect for disrupting an enemy without directly harming civilians.

go underground

>>131009142
Guerilla

>>131011361
Isn't that what Germany tried and failed to do to the UK in WW2?

>>131009142
>How do you win a war without air superiority?
Same way you win every war, by holding the ground and paying the blood toll

I DON'T KNOW, ASK THE FUCKING VIETNAMESE YOU FUCKING GOPNIK BLYAT

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>>131009142
Wit dat BBC superiority white boi

>>131009625
thats the Russian doctrine, along with a fuck ton of nukes

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>>131009142
You evolve.

>>131011995

yes but I think they invested so much into the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe they couldn't build U-boats fast enough to won against the American and British Navies.
I think if they had invested more into U-boats before the war they might have given themselves a better chance.

>>131009142
Subvert the populace

Government loses it their people dissent

>>131009142
Air superiority hasn't done a shit for the US in Afghanistan. To win a war one must subdue the land and its people and in order to do that you need boots on the ground and guns, lotsa guns.

>>131012431

Only works if the regime doesn't have control of information.

>>131009142

Insurgency
Underground hideouts
Attrition

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>>131009142

>>131012607
So to win, one must conduct informational warfare

>Who is Yuri Bezmenov?

>>131009142
You get a bigger boat

>>131009142
Two words.

Zerg Rush.

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>>131009487
>pyramid faggot is back

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>>131009142
Fuckin space superiority

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>>131009142
Artillery and poison gas.

>>131009142
you don't. you can reach a stalemate with guerrilla tactics

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>>131009142
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/22/virginia-man-charged-with-espionage-for-giving-top-secret-documents-to-china.html

>>131011680
Endwar was a really fun game even if it boiled down to RvPvS

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>>131009142
Air mines.

>>131013804
you can win by moving a populations' mind without shedding blood

Win the battle before it even begun is the best outcome

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>>131009142
Economic superiority

>>131009487
i honestly cannot stand you or your threads

>>131009142
ya don't

>>131009625
>>131012356
yup, basically discourage war in the first place
>you would win, but you would still lose

>>131012447
afghanistan isn't a war, it's an insurgency

i think we're talking traditional wars, against states and not ill-defined groups.

to your point, A way to beat airpower is to fight like you have nothing to lose and fight to the last man

you fight a completely asymmetric war and make the enemy spend the fuck out of themselves until they collapse

>>131009142
Lasers

>>131009503
>america is just gonna drone 4 million+ soldiers
stupid

>>131009142
SAMs? Also, they can be a shitty Air Force with undisciplined pilots/guards/mechanics. But then that wouldn't be air superiority.

>>131010413
Yes.

>>131012971

Which requires the population to have access to outside information.

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>>131009142
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/22/did-putin-show-oliver-stone-fake-video-director-may-have-been-fooled-by-russian-president.html

Get Putin to convince his Jewish buddies that you're doing all the work and let America fix the problem?

>>131015409
Not if you utilize the six degrees of separation at it's fullest

Ear to ear is still the most efficient form of communication

>>131013693
I still want artillery-delivered tear gas to make a comeback. US artillery dumped lots of that shit

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>>131016443
>US artillery dumped lots of that shit
*in Vietnam

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>>131009811
>An armed citizenry can win any war
Then how did Germany lose WW2?
inb4 the "Hitler took muh guns from the volk" meme pic related

>>131009503
Finnish Winter & Continuation wars against the Soviet Union are a good example that air superiority is not always necessary if your army is fighting in heavily forested territories.