Thinking pragmatically, how do you think the 2020 election is

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Here's a shitty fucking template

>>131005881
Bump

>Illinois
>Red

Your map takes into consideration a tactical nuke on Chicago.

>>131005881

I'd make a prediction, but since the election was between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump of all people, it's clear the American voter is braindamaged.

>california
>blue

>texas
>red

>>131006076
Dare to dream anon

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The last one laughing will be me when it happens.

>>131006331
The only bad thing would be the fallout drifting to based Indiana. They deserve better.

>>131006326
This. How deluded does a human being have to be to actually think this?

>>131006076
The only reason I believe Illinois didn't flip this election is because Hillary was born there. If Trump gets his new deal for black America in place this term it may instill faith in the republicans in Chicago. That all relies on Trump getting his shit together -- not likely.

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>>131006479
Actually, pay mind to this one instead.

>>131005881
Add New Hampshire and get rid of Illinois and that is pretty much correct. Here's your (you)

>>131006579
Only like 8% of blacks voted for Trump. I wouldn't count on them switching to Republican. Never rely on minorities for votes, it's why Clinton loss and why Bernie loss the primaries.

>>131006521
Hopefully Gary absorbs it all

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I've seen the future.

Trump will be granted a second term, by barely, but Best Coast/Mountain Coast will be there to save the day.

>>131006936
People from Gary complain when Chicago nogs move in. They say Chicago nogs are more violent and cause more trouble. I believe it.

t. Hoosier.

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>>131007044

>>131005881

100% electoral landslide for Jeb.

Screencap this.

>>131007044
>44

>>131006702
>California
>republican
the millions of butthurt liberals and hollywood shitheads would never allow this.

Pretty much the same except Trump will win Illinois after it goes bankrupt.

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The lead will probably expand.

>>131005881
Right off the bat there are no #NeverTrumpers or McMuffin shills, the media also won't be able to run stories about how he's literally Hitler because by that point Trump is going to be old news and claiming the world will end if he's elected will be silly.

His political coalition is remarkably strong and likely to get stronger, working class whites are by far the most important voting block and the Democratic Party is dead set on alienating as many of them as they can. By 2020 the Democratic Party will be openly seditious, violent, and hostile to the average American. The corporate McDemocrat types who put up Hillary won't cede power to the progressives, but it's hard to say whether they'll be able to hold the party together after the things they're inevitably going to do to Bernie's successor in the 2020 primaries, hell they might not even be able to hold the party together after 2018 if the Dems do badly.
>>131006579
Trump might get 15% of the black vote if things go well and he panders like hell in 2020, but that's as high as it's gonna go.

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>>131005881
THIS IS THE SAME ARROGANCE THE DEMOCRATS HAD DURING THE 2016 ELECTION.

Don't be foolish, and learn from the Dems mistake. Continue to fight as hard as you can while we still have the upper hand

>>131008237
You would think right? Well, that's the year they are finally outnumbered by Californians who are tired of their shit.

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>>131005881
Elizabeth warren/ Nancy Pelosi will get BTFO'd in an election much like 1972 where the democrats will be split into 3 major ideologies and will forfeit their unity for civil unrest, thus securing the vote for trumps reelection.

>>131005881
you can use immigration and migration patterns to make guesses about the future
>from 270towin
>TX and FL will be the big winners, gaining 4 and 2 electoral votes, respectively, for the 2nd consecutive Census. AZ, CO, NC and OR will gain one each. IL is expected to lose 2 electoral votes, with 8 other states (AL, MI, MN, NY, OH, PA, RI, WV) on track to lose one.
TX, FL, AZ and NC - at risk of enrichment to turn blue, especially AZ and NC
MI, MN, OH, PA - will turn solid red

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>>131005881
president trump will win all the states he won in 2016 with the following 2016 blue states turning red:

>new hampshire
>virginia
>colorado
>nevada

colorado is the hardest sell while new hampshire is the easiest sell. additionally, nevada will be an easier sell than virginia.

>>131005881
next time Trump won't rest unless he can win his home state.
The next four years will have to be pretty spectacular, but if they are he could pull it off

colorado gone forever

How many fucking superbowls do the patriots have to win for massachusetts to flip red

Won't the EV votes change because of the upcoming 2020 census, or does that take place after the presidential election?

Either way, what do you guys think the new EVs are gonna be like?
I get the feeling California and New York might see lower numbers, Illinois as well.

2018 is far more important than 2020, and it's impossible to tell how 2020 will go until we see what the house looks like after the midterms.

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>>131009934
>TX
>blue

moron pulling shit out of his ass while having NEVER so much as been NEAR the state of texas detected.

this isn't even "trolling" for a response. this is weapons grade stupidity. just. stop. already.

>>131009653
This. We need to see what candidate they run. Trump winning was a miracle, and we can't take anything for granted.

>>131005881
Bump

>>131010352
Get that head out of that ass delulu. Texas is a liberal commie paradise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeslE3_fEvY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B60EolNkXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRbIdaLD4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TBOt6HzH3g

>>131010582
Austin is the only liberal part of Texas. If Texas ever turns blue it's because Californians moved out and flooded the state. In that situation we might end up with a possible red California.

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>>131010352
muh based spics
kys

>>131010672
>it's because Californians moved out and flooded the state
HAHAHAHA sure Jan.
>Austin is the only liberal part of Texas
First video = DFW
Second video = DFW
Third video = Houston
Fourth video = Houston

>>131009118
agreed. good prediction anon

>>131007044

Those digits don't lie.

What do I do when Yellowstone kills me?

>>131005881
2018 more interesting.

My bet is that they're going to dump it even further for assoff or whoever and get humliated, but pick up a few things to ride on.

Retarded how could you make a map. Without any evidence like who will run and things like that. Serious some idiots said that cuckerberg will run. Do you believe?

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>>131010582
>>131010724
ignorant, uneducated carpet bagging retards spotted.

give it a rest you chumps. it's not happening. that you're stupid enough to even try and force this meme lets me know that you aren't even worth the effort of explaining your own stupidity so i'll just let you wallow in your retard thoughts.

>>131007044
Even if the east coast is spared any direct environmental impact from lava and ash It's still utterly fucked from the hundreds of millions of people all fleeing to it and from the complete collapse of the Government

Also It'll probably put us into a Volcanic winter and billions of people will die from famine and the subsequent unrest involved in the complete collapse of Governments worldwide.

It's impossible to be defend yourself against a super volcano - society will collapse, just hope If it happens you don't die and are prepared to try and rebuild from the ash.

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>>131010371
Actually folks this is right im blasted

Democrats are going to kill themselves and a third party candidate will take at least one major district in one key swing state (though they will not carry the entire state). By 2024 it will be GOP vs whatever that third party was.

>>131009931
CT is too cucked to ever go blue, sorry

the damage has been done.

>>131011261
I hope you neck yourself when Texas gets handed over to (((them))) in four years. Only unlike New York masterrace you have shitall to do over there and your people smell like sharts and amphetamines.

>>131005881
Jeb landslide

>>131011244
>cuckerberg will run
It might be interesting to see. If he has actual good ideas I might vote for him too.

But he's likely a gigantic faggot who doesn't understand shit and got lucky off of stealing an idea.

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>>131011511
>being this desperate for a response from your intellectual, physical and moral superior

here's your reply, squirt. you come off as quite pathetic though, so i hope this is worth it for you.

>>131005881
pocahontas would get stomped, the rock would cause major damage though

>>131005881
>Democrats actually have nothing at this point.

This delusion is why the GOP will lose hardcore

pro-tip: demographics are only getting better for the Dems and getting worse for the GOP. Even with Trump's more strict immigration policies - that are often challenged by courts. As the white percentage of the population decreases, the chances for the GOP to win elections goes down.

>>131005881
>Democrats actually have nothing at this point.
This is true.

If we can push the democrats are secretly racist because they're too patronising to let minorities succeed in their own merit, they will have nothing and America might become polypartisan. Democrats survive on virtue signalling, pull the rug of virtue and they fall infinitely into their pit of antisocial, destructive post modernism.

Next up are the republicans, but they weren't too bad recently so they can split into Christian fundies/far right, and the right libertarians. If either party gets the majority or if both can form a majority, then the republicans still win. That's how poly partisanship works and it's democratic enough to allow non standard political positions like right libertarianism, mutualists and left libertarians still don't have a party anywhere in the world.

>>131012249
>democrats are the real racists
ugh

>>131005881
Trump is going to win again. Democrats are still being Democrats

>>131005881
Illinois will never in a million years go red.

>>131005881
NC, WI safe Republican, AZ/PA lean Republican, Minnesota lean blue, FL swing, MI swing

>>131010672
You retarded nigger. Texas is filled with beaners and niggers. If they simply vote, the state will turn blue. Oh and their numbers grow, while your's dwindle. Oh and the SCOTUS is going to hear a case about Texas's extreme gearymandering. Have fun living in a blue state.

If by the next four years we see more prosperity and peace within the USA, it will be easier for Trump to win again. I really don't think Democrats can do much, they're all btfo, and with the way things are going, Republicans have a lot of dirt on democrats

>>131012404
too many cuckservatives in the collar counties

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>>131010724
Anon, just check out the absolute numbers.

>>131012327
It's true, but it's hard to sell. I'd just focus on how the Democrats have no moral high-ground to stand on when making their normal moral arguments.

>>131011511
Texas won't be flipping anytime soon. Their voter demographics will just not allow it.

>>131005881
Well if voter fraud is dealt with by then, it could be a 50 state sweep.

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>>131005881
>Democrats actually have nothing at this point

They're going to have even less by 2020.

The Democratic party is collapsing before our very eyes, once nobody feared them any longer on the political right, it was the end.

I couldn't be happier, as it couldn't have happened to a bigger bunch of cunts and faggots.

>>131005881
>Maryland, Delaware, Illinois
>Red

Dream on. Besides, incumbents almost always face a slight backlash. Think of Obama's second win.

I just hope that the 2020 president is Republican. If they happen to be Democratic, it better be a right leaning Democrat.

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>>131012748
real talk works better than polite arguments, people know when they're being played

>>131005881
they will rig the shit out of the midterms and elections, they literally have nothing to lose. Also they are building a base of support for vote manipulation with the fake russia narrative (if trump did it we should too kind of shit) also im predicting right here an actual election recall due to fraud either midterms of next pres election due to the DNC going balls out.

>>131012601
>I really don't think Democrats can do much, they're all btfo,

Doesn't matter if current demographics trends continue

>>131012955
>right leaning Democrat
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>131012953
Not true, Bush Jr, Reagan and Nixon won hard the second time. It only affects Democrats (Obama, Clinton).

>>131012773
Nice meme.

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They'll have lost every thing they used against him in 2020. I think he'll do significantly better in terms of population although electorally it will be difficult for him to increase his lead. He'll probably get New Hampshire. It really all depends on who he runs against. The Democrats don't have anybody who will be able to beat him right now so it will have to be an outsider or somebody elected in 2018.

>>131013087
Bush had a war that was still popular. Reagan had an outstanding economy. Nixon ran against McGovern, who lost support from his own party. McGovern was a nobody.

Party fatigue is real thing. It's the reason incumbents usually lose seats in Congressional elections that are in the middle of a Presidency.

At minimum his results from last election, but the following states might flip red:

New Hampshire
The rest of Maine
Minnesota
New Mexico
Colorado
Nevada

>>131013443
>Reagan had an outstanding economy.
So does Trump.
>It's the reason incumbents usually lose seats in Congressional elections that are in the middle of a Presidency.
Not saying Trump won't, but at the current rate it won't even be 10 seats that the Republicans lose.

>>131013443
Who knows maybe the Democrats will still be fighting each other in 3 years and they won't be able to put forward a proper candidate and they become a wet noodle like McGovern

>>131013578
>So does Trump.

lmao no he doesn't

American economy is shit and will likely be worse by 2020

>>131013694
Fuck off shill. The American economy is currently running quite well and the number of good jobs have increased.

>>131013578
Trump does not. Even forgetting the fact that he inherited a low jobless rate from Obama, the jobs are crappy service industry jobs that pay nothing. He has room to improve, but it's nowhere near Reagan levels right now.

I agree Dems will probably flip a few seats at most. They're facing a particularly bad map in the next election.

>>131012327
>>131012748
We absolutely must take left wing morality from them, maybe I took that video I saw on post modernism seriously yesterday, but as I stand if we can figure out how to remove the left's control over the normal person's idea of morality, then all they'll have left is guilt over not fucking 0.1% who decided they were born in the wrong gender.

Without those controls, this doesn't feel like morality, this feels like pressuring men into having sex with people they're not attracted to. Literally everything else about the left's morality resolves like this, well actually you're being twice as horrible to X as you're pretending to be nice to Y who are a much smaller minority.

All left wing morality is post modernism so all of it is actually questionable if you do it right, then the left don't have morality, all they have left is
>reeee smart people get nice jobs and white men are smart
Just jealousy, envy, resentment, laziness and an obvious discomfort at being reminded where you went wrong. This is the left, they redistribute blame more than anything.

This too isn't morality! This is selfishness!

>>131013654
I wouldn't be surprised if the progressive Sanders wing splits off. Young people are clearly sick of Pelosi and her quest to find the next Obama. They want something more Corbyn-esque.

>>131012575

>gerrymandering affects how states vote in presidential elections

Why is gerrymandering such a boogeyman to Democrats? I hear it all the time and it makes me embarrassed for them.

>>131014123
It does kinda help Republicans but not as much as the fact that most Democrats live in big cities which make the districts 80-100% Democrat while Republican districts are far less red on average.

>>131011244

Zuckerberg wouldn't make it past the primaries.

Trump will win the same states just with Nevada, New Hampshire, and Virginia also voting for him this time around.

>>131006825
Niger like bling ie Brands. Trump does a few things they will jump ship. And if he comes through with a good deal on NAFTA, beaners will flock to him.

People need to take into account the millions he will deport after the wall is built. Also he is an incumbent president who is already campaigning and taking donations. He will win BIGLY.

>>131005881
>Maryland
>Illinois
>Nevada
>Red
Oh, goy....

>>131014393
People have been saying this since the election. Black people are never going to vote Republican again unless they fix every single ghetto in America, which is never gonna happen.

>>131014526
Nevada has a chance.

>>131005881

Illinois will not be red this century, barring the Final Solution 2.0, if you know how many spicniggers live here.

>>131009934
MN was so close to red, with all of the liberal pandering, tax hikes, and nigger riots it'll finally be red again.

>>131006076

Illinois being Red is as unlikely as Florida, Penn, and Maybe Michigan all going Blue in 2020.

>>131014849
You forgot about the tuberculosis

>>131014225

It affects the House of Representatives. It has no effect whatsoever on the president, senators, or governors.

>>131006076
>>131006579
I live in Chicago and I voted for Trump. I'll vote for Trump again in 2020. I'm not black though.

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>>131007044
Yellow STONED

>>131005881
I hope I'm in a red state when it happens, niggers are fucking retarded when they don't get their way. I need guns too, can't have em where I currently live.

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>>131010724
Cubans basically gave Florida to Trump.

>>131014570
Not unless Jeb! runs again and hands out guac at the polling stations to all the mamacitas.

>>131006047
SAGE die.

>>131005881
Mike Pence will lose to Joe Biden

>>131015737
P-pls no.
>>131015706
Cubans are the only based Hispanics in all of Florida. We are lucky to have them.

>>131015706
As soon as the memory of Cuba is lost from those families they'll fall right in line with the rest of Hispanics and become a sea of leftists

Happened with Asians

Hot tip: Asians aren't inherently "conservative"... It's because lots of the Asians that came to America were Koreans and Vietnamese and those people left Vietnam and Korea because of communists.

The immigrants vote Republican because they know what leftists did to their homeland. The children don't, and just become leftists like most other children in the West.

>>131005881
>Georgia and Texas
>Red
kek. This be Hildawg country

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i think that jeb has a pretty high chance of winning

>>131016102
Young Cubans still vote more Republican than other young Hispanics by a white margin.

>>131016394
Because there's still a vivid memory of Cuba, as Cubans continue to come to the US and Cuba is only a couple of hours from Florida - It's there as a reminder - and the US is still on pretty bad terms with Cuba, unlike Vietnam.

Just because the transition has taken longer than It did with Koreans and Vietnamese doesn't mean it won't happen.

>>131007044
DIGITS DON'T LIE WE'RE ALL DOOMED

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>not using 270towin.com

here ya go. This is if Trump is a literally god.

>>131005881
we need pelosi to get ousted in early 2020 so the democratic party is in ruins (more than it is now) for a total landslide

>>131005881
1. Voter ID laws
2. No illegals voting
3. No sensible dem leadership
4. Sensible dem leadership would would cause they base to run away because they're all extremists.

DEMS ARE DONE

>>131017123

>we need pelosi to stick around in early 2020 so the democratic party is in ruins (more than it is now) for a total landslide

ftfy

Pelosi is literally retarded.

>>131005881
Virginia will go red once dems take down confederate monuments. NoVA has a lot of influence, but fucking with Lee's statue will turn Richmond red.

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>>131017017
That's actually possible at this point, with the strength of the economy and jobs growth. If Illinois ends up going bankrupt he might actually flip that state also and destroy the democratic party forever.

>>131005881
>how do you think the 2020 election is going to play out
It depends on how well the economy is doing then and how well Trump did on delivering his promises.
Unfortunately for Trump, congressmen like Paul Ryan are basically democrats so they have no interest in building the wall or curbing immigration so he faces a massive uphill battle to fulfill his core promises. Even if he makes them fall in line the democrats can still filibuster in the senate because the republicans lack the 60 seats to push things through if they acted as a unified block.

>>131016102
I have a Vietnamese friend whose family is like this. It's sad America doesnt realize people who were actually oppressed hate the left.

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>>131005881
Dems are fucked in 2020, Reps are almost certainly fucked in 2024 barring something drastic.

Their platform will be even more extreme in 2024 too

>mandatory surgery to remove sexual characteristics to eliminate sexism
>mandatory surgery to remove skin to eliminate racism
>extermination of 99% of population to fight global warming

>>131005881
>>131006326
>>california
>>blue
>>texas
>>red
Dumbass. Even the Republicans in California vote blue.

>>131011134
Send me all your bitcoin before it hits you

>>131005881
Honestly, there's no way to know specifics this early. All I know for sure is that Trump will probably have a pretty good shot, solely based on the fact that these terrorist attacks and the degeneration of the left will only continue over the course of the next few years. Whoever the Dems put up will definitely be facing an uphill battle based on that alone.

Virginia must turn red, its vital we start to make Virginia white and conservative.

>>131006579
>The only reason I believe Illinois didn't flip this election is because Hillary was born there.
I'm pretty sure literally nobody really knows or remembers where she was born, because she's spent her life bouncing around from one place to the next. she was born there, but then became first lady of Arkansas, to First lady in D.C., to Senator of NY, and back to D.C.

being born there means shit if you bailed as soon as you could

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this

>>131018972

>implying it's possible to turn Virginia red

Every population center is majority nonwhite, except for the Hampton Roads area which is more like half and half.

>>131005881
>Democrats actually have nothing at this point.

They do have more people voting for them overall.

The 2018 election is first. Depending what happens there. 2020 might as well be a hundred years from now.

>>131006579
The Cook County Democratic Party will never give up their chokehold on Illinois politics. These are the people that spawned Obama and Hillary- even if the people of Chicago were somehow convinced to vote Republican, they'd rig the election for the Dems. They're also the reason Illinois is broke

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My prediction. I think the dems will go for an hispanic candidate to woo hispanic voters to try and flip Florida, Texas, and Arizona, but they will come up just short in those states. Trump will expand his dominance in northern, more white states like NH, Wisconsin, Colorado and Maine since the democrats further alienate white working/middle class voters. Also Trump loses Michigan, it was just a fluke in 2016 imo.

>>131012702
so democrats MIGHT be able to flip texas in the 2050s or 2060s

>>131020028
by then the liberal white states will be voting republican

>>131012953
I dunno man. The ghetto blacks in moco, pg and baltimore have been turning a lot of formerly liberal whites against them.

whites who grew up singing martin luther king hymns are now carrying in case they have to blast a ghetto nigga. And they don't give a fuck about the democratic party platrom.

>>131005881
Becoming over-confident is no way to win an election.
Let the democrats continue to make a fool of themselves, and don't go theresa may levels of retard on election day.

The democrats have alienated the entire Midwest with their immigration and LGTBQ agenda.

If they hadn't lost their mind 8 years ago Trump would never have won.

The amusing thing is the democrats would rather continue to lose then change their agenda.

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>>131005881

>>131009931
>PR
>Red
Why would we give those shitskins statehood?

>>131005881
>Thinking pragmatically, how do you think the 2020 election is going to play out at this point?

The democrats have lost the midwest for at least a generation. Caliban transplants are starting to turn the mountain west and Texas.

The congressional delegations from both parties are horrendous in different ways, so that could color the election depending on which party is seen as doing more damage at any given time.
>>131018069
>It's sad America doesnt realize people who were actually oppressed hate the left.

The right/left line is drawn much differently here than it was in Vietnam. Ours has come down to more of an urban/rural divide and men vs women than anything else.

>>131005881
Democrats will lose every election for the next 40 years at this rate. They are SO out of touch with the working white people of America and spend all their time pandering to antiwhite racists and transpeople. I wouldn't hold it against them if it was actually an effective political strategy because what do you expect from liberal politicians? But it's obviously the worst thing they could possibly do and they won't stop now for fear of being labeled bigoted or politically incorrect.

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>>131006076
>implying Illinois is a blue state at its core
Illinois is about to go bankrupt because of Dems. Unironically bankrupt. Not even Chicago cancer can keep making excuses forever

>>131016102
sadly this is true

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>>131007044
#ElectYellowstone2020
#ElectoralEruption

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>you wake up during the 2020 election and the map is this.
Trump vs Zuckerberg

>>131023320
/pol/ would just do its thing and make infinite memes exposing the Zuck for the cuck he is. Then the beta uprising.

It depends on what results Trump can show. If the Democrats keep salting the earth like they have been it won't help them.

>>131006076
Are you suggesting we handle the problem... pragmatically?

>>131022713
>fear of being labeled politically incorrect
Yeah that'd fuck them over. Having the same name as this board would be the opposite of their agenda.

>>131017914
Remove the filibuster as it's asinine at this point. Nowhere does it say for regular laws and other things you need 60%.

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>>131005881
This seems the most obvious with close states flipping over and democrat strongholds staying blue though the party will be in shambles

>>131024413
>Remove the filibuster as it's asinine at this point.
If I put my tinfoil on and ask why they don't do this even when Trump requested this I begin to think this is the Republican's way of stopping Trump's agenda while not taking the blame directly. Either that or they're afraid of the democrats using that power later.

>>131007116
What "people" are you talking about? Gary is basically an extension of south chicago.

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>>131005881
>Colorado
>Red
Only if the lolbertarians stop being autistic.
The Dems won the state with a 53% majority but that's only because 7% of our traditionally conservative vote went to Garry fucking Johnson.
Meanwhile the liberals keep chipping away more and more at red Colorado.