>protectionism and corporate handouts will make america great ag-

Forgot link:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/trumps-carrier-jobs-deal-is-just-not-living-up-to-the-hype.html

>>130990774
>I hate Trump so much that I would rather Americans continue to suffer than his plans actually succeed.
k.

>>130991072
It's more like I believe free trade and capitalism will make America even greater while's Trump's mercantilism is the road to serfdom.

>>130991072

The left has no power unless the people are dependant.

>>130990774
-ain

Every single thread is inmediately shill bombed by ledonald. What the fuck

>>130991956
>Everyone that disagrees with me is le reddit

>>130992820
You have to go back

>>130991072
>pretending that what OP wants affects the outcome of Trump's shitty deals

Do you have down's?

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>>130990774
Don't forget that we gave Carrier 7 million dollars in tax breaks to keep 200 jobs here.

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>>130993050

Fucking hilarious

>>130990774
enjoy the tariff.

>>130993418
the tariff will be paid for by price increased on goods sold to Americans. Go take Economics 101 or something, friendo.

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>>130991387
Just pointing out the facts, good one

>>130990774
>in office six months
>HE HASNT DONE EVERYTHING HE SAID HE WOULD HE'S A FAILURE
Try harder liberals.

>>130993882
>People have no choice but to buy my air conditioner at a higher price
>Go take Economics 101 or something, friendo.

>>130991956

Now you know how it feels, faggot.

>>130991387
this

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>>130993882
Then Americans will buy elsewhere. Companies will then manufacture here to avoid tariff...

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>>130994623
>Companies will then manufacture here to avoid tariff...

No they wont, because of labor costs you fucking idiot. The tariff will be passed on the consumer, and then the consumer either wont consume it, or consume it from a different company at a lower price. The point being that a tariff (and Trump's "deal") is fucking useless. You are fucking stupid.

your right lets take tesla $$ and use to pay off debt

>>130993882
>the tariff will be paid for by price increased on goods sold to Americans.
up until that price is larger than just making the goods here.

enjoy the tariff you kike.

>>130995132
>or consume it from a different company at a lower price
like what that anon said?

>literally being this dumb
>literally thinking tariffs are a bad thing

>>130993050

The Art of The Deal

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>>130991387
>dude a service based economy definitely won't to post capitalist serfdom
Yea I mean everyone working at Wal-Mart and living in apartments totally isn't serfdom, serfs didn't have big screen tv's

>>130995353
>ignoring over half of my comment

Why even reply if you can barely read?

>>130995132
>The tariff will be passed on the consumer, and then the consumer either wont consume it, or consume it from a different company at a lower price. The point being that a tariff (and Trump's "deal") is fucking useless.

Why do you say it's useless though? A tarrif could exist such that it's cheaper to keep the factory in America than it is to move the factory to Mexico.

Why do libshits don't understand how import taxes work?

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>>130995658
Because they are economically illiterate

>>130995541
>Why do you say it's useless though?

Because it doesn't accomplish anything. If they manufacture in the US they will just automate everything because of labor costs. If they move, then the price of their goods goes up and it either fucks consumers, or it fucks their business by making them non-competitive. This is fucking basic and has been known since well before this election. A better question is why "conservatives" are trying to force businesses to supply jobs when that has never been something that has worked.

>>130995818
automation isn't a bad thing, anon. It would be good for america to get ahead of that industry.

This is exactly the kind of innovation america needs to maintain its position as the superpower of the world.

>>130995802
>trade unions are racist
this is why trump won.

>>130995658

>liberals are economically illiterate

If only I could invent a machine that runs on cognitive dissonance.

>>130995802
Capitalism sure is ending! I can't wait for glorious socialism to kick in!

>>130995991
I never said automation is a bad thing, learn to read. Forcing companies to automate with heavy-handed government intervention is a bad thing.

>>130994047
I'm not sure if he's done anything though. Other than golf and drop a big bomb.

>>130993050

Don't forget this part either:
>As for Trump's claim that the $16 million investment in the plant would add jobs, United Technologies CEO Greg Hayes told CNBC in December that the money would go toward more automation in the factory and ultimately would result in fewer jobs.

Corporate handouts need to fucking stop.

>>130994047

Are we supposed to ignore the rally he had to announce the Carrier deal in the first place?

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>>130996322
Ignore everything. Praise our glorious leader.

>>130996169
>I never said automation is a bad thing, learn to read. Forcing companies to automate with heavy-handed government intervention is a bad thing.

We're not forcing them to do it. They have the option of hiring American employees as well. Both options are good for america.

You act as though no american is going to buy any cars if we enact tariffs.... It's not true.

What will happen is simply that the businesses which are unnecessary will fail, and the ones that are useful will prosper.

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>>130996118
>no reading comprehension
>>130996169
>Capitalism sure is ending! I can't wait for glorious socialism to kick in!
Capitalism is ending along with everything else soon but there's not gonna be anything to replace it for awhile pic related(1/2)

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>>130996169
(2/2)

>>130996458
>We're not forcing them to do it.

You're heavily influencing the decision by enacting a tariff.

>You act as though no american is going to buy any cars if we enact tariffs.... It's not true.

No, I'm saying that it will be more expensive for Americans to buy cars, or that it will make the car company less competitive.

>What will happen is simply that the businesses which are unnecessary will fail, and the ones that are useful will prosper.

American business will fail, while multinationals will prosper.

>>130996575
>born too early to witness the next Conquest phase

>>130996575
>>no reading comprehension
>no argument
good try retard

>>130995991
>automation isn't a bad thing
It is if you want more of the jobs that are being automated.

>>130996118
can you please explain what you mean by this?

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>>130996575
>>130996691
Holy fuck, who made this and why are you posting it? My sides are galactic with this shit. Here, let me go scribble something in a coloring book and then upload it as proof of capitalism's continuing success. Oh wait, actually just go outside, turn on the TV, do a google search, or literally anything. You are hilarious my man.

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>>130995802
>labor unions are a good thing

Are you sure you're not a crypto-Bernie bro?

>>130991072
>I hate americans so much that I would rather want Trump to take out their insurance


This can be both ways

>>130996956
It would mean the money earned would be staying within the US economy.

>>130991072
>wanting the President to fail so his name/party can't be associated with success
Imagine that.

Imagine that.

Pretty fucking wild, isn't it?

Literally unpresidented.

>>130996778
>No, I'm saying that it will be more expensive for Americans to buy cars
Yea, that's true.... but Americans will be paid higher wages as well.

Sure we probably won't have as many cars on the road.... but that's not really a bad thing either.

>>130996778
>American business will fail, while multinationals will prosper.
This doesn't follow at all.

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>>130990774
Dashposting should be a bannable offense. Saged.

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>>130996986
>durr I'm a materialist retard with no sense of historical trends who only cares about muh 2d waifu
Dare to be stupid also not an argument :^)

Carrier has a right to move the jobs to Mexico if it chooses to. It has no obligation to keep jobs in America.

>>130997110
If the goal is to save and increase coal mining and factory jobs as stated then incentivising the automation of the jobs is counter productive.

>>130997424
America has no obligation to allow carrier to import product.

>>130991387
Greater? Does that happen after the civil war or before? Because 10's of millions of young men being shoved out of the workforce with no options isn't going to make anything greater. It is going to create an army of young disillusioned, drug addicted men who want revenge.

>>130991387
> free trade meme
> capitalism is all roses

capitalism is good .. in theory , but then you have to take into account the MEME CAPITALISM that wall street and banks produce , and everything goes to shit .

>>130997555
Or to give them multi-million dollar handouts, but oh well.

>>130997030
It's not saying it's good or bad either way it's just outlining the situation

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>>130996118
sexy post
i keked

>>130997618
Maybe they should learn to be more useful than an illiterate spic or chink.

>>130996200
thats because you are stupid
go back to watching john oliver

>>130997662

Exactly. The process is a negotiation between the business and the government.

>>130993050
A city of 40,000 people can be financed nearly entirely by a company that has 1,000 well paying jobs.

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>>130996986
you aren't a numbers or reality kinda person are you?
school teacher?
lawyer?

>>130997030
kek

crypto

fukin kek

>>130997794
Yeah that is the ticket, flood college campuses turn all the degrees into useless shit and subject people to debt they cannot declare bankruptcy on.

Americans will always lose out on jobs as long as my cousin is willing to work 12 hours for roughly $50 US dollars a week. Trump is probably in on the action too. I'm sure many of his real friends benefit from Mexico's cheap labor.

>>130998429
Maybe we should start flooding over your borders and taking over towns. Bet ya would like that right? We can kill and rape your children too.

>>130998429
No one works for 50 a week retard, maybe for half a day and that goes with meals, some retards from here have hired guys from the Home depot and say that those are the rates.

>>130998607
>Maybe we should start flooding over your borders and taking over towns
You already did that, you backstabbing cocksucker.

>>130998429
>Americans will always lose out on jobs as long as my cousin is willing to work 12 hours for roughly $50 US dollars a week.
and you wonder why your country is dirt poor.

keep being a retard and see where that gets you.

>>130998607
Yeah, that would be great. I'm certain the US can clean this place up, given the chance. Pedophiles not welcome though.

>>130990774
So mexicans are stealing their jobs, eh?

Well, Trump was right again

>>130998661
In Mexico Mazda pays 900 pesos a week for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week labor. If you are in Mexico ask around.

>>130997247
>but Americans will be paid higher wages as well
Except that especially when they're given handouts to fund it the companies here would rather just automate.

>Sure we probably won't have as many cars on the road.... but that's not really a bad thing either.
If you're serious then you really haven't though this through. People still need to get places for work and to buy things and go to places like the hospital. Unless we want to put a bunch of money towards improving public transport then just reducing the available affordable car transport will only serve to harm the economy by reducing productivity and efficiency.

>>130991387
>capitalism and the total free market is god, protectionism is satan
back to NRO

So Trump not only is willing to make wars around the world, willing to hug Saudi Arabia.

No!

He even fails at home. Dudes, this is ridiculous :D

Still better than Hillary but OMG what bad of a choice did you have there. Crazy witch versus The moron. :D

>>130997895
Well they're not doing a good job of it.

>>130998738

conquest is not back stabbing pablo

>>130998738
My family never left Pennsylvania. I'm not responsible for what the Texans did.

>>130998429
>Trump is probably in on the action too
Of course. He's a YUGE fan of cheap immigrant labour as long as it's "legal" and employs as many polish cleaning ladies and the like as he can in his hotels.

>>130991387
he says as more people in history are living on rented property thanks to glorious free trade gapitalism :DDDD

what happened to the american dream, breh?

>>130999180
many of the founders of the republic and eventual state of texas were illegal immigrants

>>130991072
Liberalism is a mental illness.

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>>130999180
Get ready for the BEANER cock then,

>>130999893
I enjoy beaner pussy. L:()

>>130994047
>>130997826
name 5 actions by Trump as president that has had a positive effect on anyone other than Trump and his business partners

>>131000178
Is that all you have faggot? It's going to be a long fucking summer.

>>130990774
syill

better

than

clinton.

>>130995991
>>130997110
it will just contribute to a shrinking middle class, which is literally what Trump was campaigning on reducing, in fewer and less intelligent words

>>130999536
To be fair I do see some attempts to reduce foreign/outside purchases of homes as assets that they don't intend to live in and others to increase low-income housing or improve the state of renting but it mostly gets attacked as bad-for-business sjw bullshit.

There's also considerations that regulations that help prevent slumlord tenements that are a public hazard can prevent some private freedoms like tiny homes.

It's all a lot more complex and messy mix of a million greeds and well-intentioned but incomplete band-aids than many like to admit.

he saved their jobs for 6 month, I bet they are grateful

>>131000407
1 muslim ban
2 keystone pipeline
3 gorsuch
4 exit paris deal
5 ford/carrier staying in usa
I can do 50
but hek
you know that

>>131000450
lol
me fucknig pussy is gay?
Im guna go to latin night tomorrow night here in boston
oow weee new latin pussy all mine no effort at all!!

>>131000465

I know that on /pol/ all things democrat are evil, but werent the 90's the greatest time in america?

>or at least a hell lot better than now?

>>130991072
I'm with you.

The irony of it all.

>>131002209

nvm

>Hillary

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Humpty Drumpfy did not build a wall

Humpty Drumpfy had a great fall

All of the redditards and the klansmen

couldn't put Drumpfy together again

Drumpfy broke his promise on wars

The lion of Syria cut off his balls

Putin and Xinping laughed at his dick

Bill Mitchell settled on his asshole to lick

Drumpfy's presidency turned to shite

America's now less than 50% white

Niggers and spics, the kikes at the top

Didn't we vote for the bullshit to stop?

Drumpf he tried washing his shame out with water

All while a jew was fucking his daughter

And making the choices on every adventure

And you thought I suffered from dementia?

Oh little trumplets, look at you now

You were all duped and we all know how

Your IQ so low, we should just pull the cord

When will you realize, /pol/ isn't your board?

Burgerland's passing now into the grave

The world will not miss you, the gay things you gave

Pretty soon you will look like Brazil

And that little trumptards, is the true redpill

It's now getting late, so I bid you adieu

Hilldog's the name, with my guitar too

And as you are niggerfied, one thing you'll see

You're already wishing you voted for me

>>130994190
>lol we do it cuz they do it

kid logic right here

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>>131000654
>To be fair I do see some attempts to reduce foreign/outside purchases of homes as assets that they don't intend to live in and others to increase low-income housing or improve the state of renting but it mostly gets attacked as bad-for-business sjw bullshit.
Where do you see this? Where the hell do you see this?
>It's all a lot more complex and messy mix of a million greeds and well-intentioned but incomplete band-aids than many like to admit.
And why the fuck do we need bandaids when capitalism is supposed to run on greed? The whole idea is that capitalism incentivizes efficiency, and thus greed solves itself.

Yet it would appear that capitalism, while making a lot of money, leads to a parasitic, destructive cycle of corner-cutting, profit loss, and thus more corner-cutting.

>>131003118
>Where do you see this? Where the hell do you see this?
Attempted regulations to ban buying and owning homes if you or someone don't actually live in them for x% of the year to prevent people especially out of state buying up homes as assets and leaving them empty driving up prices.
Attempted regulations to put limits on rents or restrict predatory renting behaviour.
I see it happening where I live where they say there's an "affordable housing crisis" but like I said a lot of it gets fought as too much regulation and bad for business even though the high costs are bad for actual local businesses and only good for people using houses as assets or renting at high costs.