about homogeneous Japan

No. 理由はautomationです。

If you take in people who share none of your values or genes and make it into something else, is that really saving it?

That's like saving your family home by inviting everyone into it.

The are literally smaller than California yet have a third of the population of the United States, I think everybody blows this shit out of proportion.

>>130928143
They are overpopulated at the moment. If they have a suddn shortage of salarymen they can use their own supply of rural and suburban talent.

Economy can be fixed. Demographics can't.

>refugees
It would be more productive to just build bots to do the work.

>>130928326
I know, but still their population is declining & getting older, which could be a threat to their economy

>>130928143
They need to be more diverse

>>130928393
Why should your economy grow when your population is shrinking?

>>130928143
>will they need to take refugees in at some point?

No. If it becomes a major problem they can always increase immigration from S. Korea, China, and other Asian countries. There's no shortage of Asians that's for sure.

>>130928393
>their economy might encounter problems that we can't predict as the 5th stage of demographic transition is an unknown
>I know, let's just fuck everything up culturally for the sake of money
Fucking idiot. Why would money matter more than country and culture? You probably consider yourself European instead of French so this is probably lost on you.

No and no. Leave Japan the fuck alone. You cucked yourself, stop trying to drag everyone else down with you.

>>130928143
Seriously? Fuck you. They were experiencing an overpopulation crisis. Now that things have adjusted themselves to the point that they finally have breathing room again, you think they "need" a bunch of useless migrants who won't speak Japanese and will breed like rabbits?

>>130928472
europe yes

>>130928143
Taking in refugees is not the solution to anything.

A bad work environment has led to men either being successes or total failures in the eyes of society, so the bottom 50% of men have checked out of society rather than filling in roles.

>>130928143

>will they need to take in a threat to their economy to remedy a threat to their economy

Fuckhead. Funny how 20-30 years ago people were told to stop breeding because overpopulation was a problem, but now low population is an existential threat and somehow 3rd world savages can save us.

Face it, it's a scheme to undermine the unity of particularly high IQ nations and replace them with inbred retards. They're easier to rule over.

>>130928571
>>130928575
Geez it was a question not a suggestion calm your dicks down

Why are we at a point in time where everything boils down to fractional percentages?

Who cares if your economy "shrinks" by 0.1%? If your citizens are healthy, secure, and safe - does it really matter?

Sure, you could increase your growth by +0.1% instead, by inviting a shit load of useless fucks, but at the expense of your culture, heritage, security, etc... why?

We live in a unsustainable world of infinite growth - this shit show's wheels will fall off soon enough

Automation is the answer for them.

>>130928393

Fewer people = economy doesnt need to be as big

Why the fuck dont people realise this?
(((They))) are the only ones who don't benefit from constant growth

>>130928575
To be fair, overpopulation isn't as bad as having a country that's majority old people.

>>130928712
>a threat to their economy to remedy a threat to their economy
refugees bring more money to the state on the long term, (at least in france) that's why Macron love their dicks

>>130928143
Who gives a damn their population is declining really ? They have housing problems, it's actually good for them to have a lowering population.

Also...

Surely a "weaker" economy doesn't matter, as you need to provide for less people?

This shit is a huge scam.

Japan was overpopulated - in fact, it still is given the size of the island! Yet, again INFINITE GROWTH meme XD strikes again

>>130928774
Well yeah, but what happens when most of the people that are left are really old?

I don't give a shit about my country, my people fought for the right to kill their culture and they're happy doing it, but keep these fucking mud creatures out of Nippon

>>130928911
> Surely a "weaker" economy doesn't matter, as you need to provide for less people?

This guy gets it.

Populations have always risen and fallen. This is not an excuse to introduce millions of foreigners which will forever destroy the country

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>>130928560

The French, like most of Europe, are willing to let their past and future burn for 5 more minutes of fiat currency from a central bank, movies, video games, porn, anonymous degenerate sex, and cheap tasty garbage food.

They get the domination they deserve.

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fuck you
no refugees
a few whites here and there are okay
the new generation of men are slowly getting back strength like the men of the showa generation
fuck your refugees jewish globalist

Nope and their banks aren't controlled by jews

>>130928729
It was a leading question. "Herp derp Japan needs a bunch of third-world flesh heaps who won't learn Japanese, will need gibs to survive, and will blow up Tokyo when they've have enough time to breed their numbers up."

>>130928143
No because with less people there will be more resources per person thus increased wealth for the collective. Rich people spend more money than poor people.

I came to this thread to see more Japanese women and honestly I'm disappointed

>>130928865

>get paid to be there
>generate nothing but rape and shitting in the street

>"they bring more money"

First off that's all incorrect, 2nd if all you care about is money, you deserve the busted boypussi you're gonna get.

>>130928774
the fewer people the smaller the gdp and debt becomes unsustainable. and if you have a lot of elders its harder to give pentions. but no immigration isnt the sollution

>>130929241
That doesn't matter if everyone is old. The old people would need to be maintained.

>>130928143
No. Economic growth used to be tied to population for pretty much the entirety of human history but that has changed very recently due to automation. Machines can replace more and more people every year which will turn people from producers into consumers, probably living on state handouts to boot. Every developed country should be letting their population decline to a more stable level but instead we're getting enriched to hell and back since people still follow outdated ideas about economic growth.

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>>130928865
>believing that shit

>>130928911
The problem isn't for the Japanese people or state, but rather the (((people))) who make money from economic growth

>>130928143
Notice how leftists are population alarmist when there is a possibility of pushing browns

Also I am starting to miss old CAPTCHA this fucking picture shit is way to glitchy

>year 2020
>we invited 1 million Africans to bolster our economy by 0.5%+
>the merchant bankers were happy!
>50 years later
>g-guys all these Africans are too old to work now, we need more
>shit, we need another 5 million to replace them I guess
>phew a 0.1% economic growth
>look out window
>oh, fuck our country is decimated, as is our culture. Oh well, some greedy fuck banker got loaded as fuck :^)

>>130929221
Bitch I was a weeaboo 5 years ago I don't want Japan to multicultural

I will single handedly solve their problem

>>130929241
Ok but if everyone is old, welfare costs are going to be expensive & Japan will lack workers, no?

>>130929295
Ever heard of a pension?

It's not like as soon as you get old you suck money out of the system - it's saved up in a bank somewhere

>>130929101
>uneven burden
Lebanon= arab country
Jordan=arab country
Turkey=muslim country
where are Tunisia, Morocco, Saudi-Arabia, Oman, Yemen and many other muslim countries? Why should a country take refugees in, who don't even share common culture and are nothing but cancer?

>>130929394
Yes and communists will defend immigration even though it does fuck all to push their ideology. Unless they really think browns can successfully achieve communist utopia when they fail time and time again.

>>130929466
Not like Japanese people ever stop working though.

They provide enough for their own sustainance.

Only people pushing the growth and immigration bullshit are bankers and the like
They need larger populations as they thrive on peoples debt

The pensions thing is a joke, hey we need to pay for aging population so lets import people who wont work, collect welfare and also grow old demanding a pension, that will fix everything

>>130929478
No where in the world are there enough in pension systems to maintain the amount of old people that Japan has. Japan's welfare system is also notoriously weak compared to Europe, and even if they had a robust pension system, you would need a good amount of working age people to prop it up.

>>130929445
>single handedly

Why break the habit of a lifetime

>>130928143
>WORLD IS OVERPOPULATED, WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, THERE ARE TOO MUCH PEOPLE ON THE PLANET

>EUROPEAN AND JAPAN POPULATION IS IN DECLINE, WE NEED TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM, BRING IN REFUGEES

fucking kikes, make up your fucking dummy mind.

>>130928143
It's a threat to their economy because how the world is built. You need to have a growing population to sustain economic growth, that's just how it is.

The thing is, Japan has a housing crisis, housing bubble, overpopulation problem, etc etc.
What Japan needs is a correction, but that won't happen because (((they))) need a annual growth to keep the world economy going. Which is why this massive immigration bullshit is happening in Europe, because the same shit is happening there.

Leftists and all that scrub loves to use post-WW2 as an example that immigration is great for countries. Because every immigrant will arrive and get a job. Hence contributing to the economy, work industry and GDP.
BUT those were european brothers. That doesn't apply to sandniggers, because a large majority of them don't work, they lie about their education, a majority of them will be on welfare for most of their lives because they doesn't give a shit about living standards, etc etc.

So, TL;DR this "immigration will bolster the economy" is kind of true, but at the same time. Do you want to fill your country with muslims that fights for different cultures and siphons your welfare in exchange of maybe a 0.3% economic boost?
Fuck no.

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>>130929478
Pensions are generally underfunded and often based on historical rates of return, which may or may not be realistic going forward. Likely the latter. It's a ponzi of sorts, requiring a constant influx of new people at the bottom. This is the main reason western countries hunger for new blood/immigrants. I thought this was common knowledge here.

How could refugees possibly help the economy when you give them welfare?

>>130928143
Be Japan...

Be stupid enough to put a nuclear plant on a fault line. Earthquake happens, tsunami

2 cores go into meltdown

No way to stop it, keep everything hush hush, keep pumping sea water on the problem with no solution.

Be fucking assholes and dump untreated water back into the sea

Kill the ocean around you and all the way to the west coast of North America, poison the ocean.

When the melted cores hit the water table = detonation and radiation goes airborn, all over the world

Fuck you very much Japan

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>>130928143
>will they need to take refugees in at some point?
Why would they ever want to wreck their entire fucking country just for a few kike-tokens?

>>130928143
Wasn't the overpopulation crisis all the rage a minute ago?
Why is it always refugees and not taiwanese migrants?
How many japanese does japan actually need?

>>130929698
This in so many ways.

>>130928951
The Japanese old people aren't as bad off medically as those in the West. Not as much fast food and forced walking everywhere will do that.

>>130928143
They don't need to take in refugees.
They need a complete overhaul of their socioeconomic system based on ideas spread by Jews, so that people are not financially precluded from having kids.
This is what we all need to do.
It astounds me how people can't fucking put 2 and 2 together and realise that both (((capitalism))) and (((communism))) can be sold as "purely economic models, nothing to do with race", and yet they are ENTIRELY dysgenic.

>>130928323

This. Its like inifinite growth economics. Who says you cant have a low pop and be highly developed and strong? I mean 100 whites could subdue thousands of Africans in the past and more so now probably. Numbers are only an issue when it comes to democracy. Democracy is why numbers are important and nothing else.

>>130930061
Medically yeah, but I'm talking stuff like pensions, unemployment, and that stuff. I know that healthcare in Japan works kind of like it does in Switzerland, where you have to pay it up until a certain amount and the government covers the rest.

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>>130928143
I hope not

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>>130928143
No, they just need more robots.

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>>130928143
>>130928311
>>130928143
>>130928326
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>>130930279

heh heh heh

>>130928143
>tiny fucking island nation
>126 million people

Japan has ONE THIRD of ENTIRE AMERICAN POPULATION.

1/3 of fucking US. And they're a fucking TINY ISLAND NATION. Look at size of POLAND and then understand that Poland has 38 million people.

>>130930176
This. Ever since they became a US proxy state they've been sliding towards the abyss, just like the USA and every other US/Jew controlled puppet state.

>>130929698
The overpopulation myth is just a lie to further take things from you

>world is overpopulated goy
>give up your children and modern luxuries
>be a dumb peasant
>shut up and work.
>accept less out of life.

>>130928143
>is Japan's declining population a threat to their economy? will they need to take refugees in at some point?

We are an interesting point where this question has not really been answered before. People pretend that population should go down because of stress to the planet but they piss themselves the moment a population shrinks.

I applaud Japan for trying to figure out a way to deal with declining pop which will likely mean a shrinking economy and difficulty with benefits/retirement. Though automation should help with these things. Seems to me more robots means less jobs which means you can have a way through that involves less workers.

I also count the US lucky that when our politicians piss themselves and start taking in immigrants to avoid dealing with this shit we have Latinos to take in rather then Africans/Arabs that Europe gets.

>>130928143
What does it matter anyway? their standard of living isn't going to change because their population is in decline.
I don't get it. It will even out at some point.
They live on the fucking island for fuck sake
What do you want japan to turn into the philippines or something?
Overpopulated, polluted, and shitty.

>>130928143

>overpopulated archipelago
>population decline is a bad thing

lol

>>130928392
>Demographics can't
>Germany
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>>130930297

Japan population bombs and they all die
Robot Bears take over

>>130930429
Its overpopulated in the sense that we are supporting a bunch of natives with no prospects in foreign lands with tech and science from the 1st world. We cant maintain propping them up at current levels but if we just pulled out it world work itself out. I agree though overpopulation as its understood and spread is a meme.

>>130930429
The overpopulation is what creates the nutjobs comitting terrorist acts.

>>130929753
>sustain economic growth

The economic growth meme needs to die. The size of the economy can inflate AND DEFLATE with the size of your population. The dogma that economies MUST grow is just an inflation fetish.

>>130930861

Well they tie it to their socialist bullshit. (((THEY))) need constant growth in pop for a tax base to pay for the bullshit gibs they give to buy votes.

The elephant in the room here is the extreme longevity we are being forced by modern standards. If people don't live as long with so many artificial means there would be less of a burden for young people and the economy since old people suck away all the resources.

70 should be the maximum.

>>130928143
Lack of reproduction seems to me to be a biproduct of a decently advanced civilization

I would say the Japanese and most of Europe/white America are the only cultures that are actually worth calling modern
White birth rates are declining as well, you just don't notice because there are more of us and some of us have allowed interracial breeding

Once people forget about religion and realize how seemingly meaningless our existence is they lose the will to reproduce or really do anything to contribute to humanity

>>130930671
Holy shit it's like the Dark Tower
What was the name of that cyborg bear with a brain full of worms?

>People don't realise that at this rate in 20-30 years there won't be enough japanese workers to run companies.

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>>130930983
PAAAAAYYYY

>muh economy
there are things more important than money, schlomo

Why does a country's population have to continue to grow? It can't grow forever. It has to slow down and stop some time. Just let it do it's own thing naturally. And even with mass immigration the country will still eventually have to stop growing.

>>130928323
This. They're actually overpopulated at the moment.

>>130928143
Because japanese girls like in OP`s pic is one in a million they are mostly ugly

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>>130931736
And why the fuck do I have a british flag? This flag bullshit has to stop

The farce that is infinite growth is one that will eventually come to bite people in the ass.

Japan's economy might shrink, but the market will adjust.

>>130928545

Technological advancement and automation.

>>130928143
I'd happily improve their decline in population with her

>>130929867
Imagine you're playing sim city.
>more and more of your people are refusing to have kids
>they are living longer

What would you do?

What our leaders decided to do was to destablize areas with fake wars to cause mass refugee issues
>take in these people as breeders
>they are retards so as soon as you give them a place to stay and money they pop kids out like rabbits

:low population issue fixed

>give them money, encourage their kids to goto school and college. You see a ton of money going into this right now.

That's the plan, if it fails all these nations will be about a billion times worse off. It's a gamble.

>>130928323
The problem isn't a shrinking population, it's an older population. If they don't do anything they will have an overcrowded country full of old people that nobody can support.

>>130930356
I came here to post this.

>>130932148
Why would anyone think it's a good gamble?

>>130928143
You fuckers need to make up your mind, first of all. Are there too many people or aren't there? Is over-population a problem or not?

And no. Japan doesn't have population problem. They're building the most advanced robots on the planet. Some in the US are concerned about robots replacing workers. How hard is it to put these two things together. Japans forward with automation and decline of population go hand in hand and only look to improve the quality of life and rise personal income - reducing national debt.

>>130928143

Jesus Christ I'd leave my wife for her, the temptation is real.

>>130932164
>hey guys we found a cure for cancer!
>no you didn't
>trillion dollars of charity funding, no cures!

>older popuation numbers decrease

>hey guys should we encourage more mcdoanlds to open up in your nation
>yes, yes you should.

>older population numbers decrease

>subsidize sugar, make bad foods cheaper than good foods

>older population decreases

>>130932164

They'll eventually start paying married couples to have kids, and if they have one have 2 or three.

They'll over single women money for artificial insemination and lifetime child support.

The Japanese will think of something. They really need to get their young people better paying jobs and shorter work hours so they'll want to live life again.

>>130929084
This flag kek

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>>130932311
Because the alternative is for birth rates to continue to fall, the population gets older and the whole economy collapses.

If these people had any sense they would combat what is causing people to not have kids, but that's hard so they don't do that and instead just bus in shitskins.

This is also why single mothers are given massive amounts of benefits and encouragement btw.

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>>130930369
Source desu

>>130928143
Fuck off Ahmed they dont even give welfare to non natives

People conflate "What is good for the economy" and "What is good for the individuals" way too fucking much.

If I have 10 people and $10 that's $1 each person.
If I have 8 people and $9, my economy has shrunk by 10%, but the individuals that make up my population are individually better off.
A shrinking population does generally mean a smaller economy, but it does not by any means indicate a poorer populace. On the contrary, it usually results in a wealthier individual population.

>>130929265
Their plan is long-term, next 1 or 2 generations.

They are taking massive hits now in the hope their kids will be tax payers. All these leaders know the serious issues now, they are thinking ahead.

I think it's fucking retarded and self defeating since you're destroying your culture in the process but that's their plan.

>>130932878
it's the opposite, all about gdp nowadays so gorillion people in a single country means big economy

>>130931787
The problem is that they aren't having children. It's not good for a population if it's made up of all old people and there's no young people to take care of them.

>>130929673
That deserves a (you)

>>130932680
>If these people had any sense they would combat what is causing people to not have kids

Which is overpopulation. The price of housing and the cost of living in Japan are totally prohibitive. People can't afford to have kids because renting a 1 bedroom shoebox costs $600USD/Month in Tokyo on the low end, and up to $1k USD on the upper end. Just to be able to rent space enough to have a single child is objectively out of reach to most young Japanese couples even if you ignore the increased food costs and the time needed to invest in childcare.

Japan is literally New Zealand in size with half the population of the US crammed into it.

>>130933443
600/month rent in tokyo? for a bathtub maybe

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>>130931607

>mfw the next crash happens and it's far worse than '08 and Boomers lose their retirements

>>130929101
Japan yes!

>>130933091
That's the point he's making. GDP is a bullshit measure of overall prosperity when all that wealthy is mostly in the hands of some kike bankers or whoever else. Look at how we (ie, Americans) are told that we've been in an economic recovery for the past like 8 fucking years and they'll point to the stock market to say this, even though IRL most people are doing worse than ever before

>>130933550
A shoe box is a whole lot smaller than a bath tub. I'm talking literally a bed and a door with communal bath and kitchen.

>>130928143
They live on a tiny ass, resourceless island. They dont need to have more people than Russia. Bringing in more people wouldnt do anything. They have 2.8% unemployment give or take right now. If they bring in 100,000 refugees per year or some shit - all with family size 5+ - that strains your social programs, they dont get jobs and just fuck your shit up. Stablize at a population that makes sense for your resources. If it goes lower, youll start rising once it equalizes. You cant sustain infinite growth.

>>130928143

lol?

Robots isn't the furture is now retards.

The USA, and Eur are importing trash for no reason at all.

>>130933091

GDP isn't median salary

>My country's economy is my life and thus worth more than my country's soul

i wish this meme would die

fucking jews

Jap economy will decline inline with population shrink then rise again and be stronger after the cycle. This is the natural flow of most organisms. Boom, decline, boom, decline. Ours is measured in wealth because we've surpassed issues like food/habitat in most cases. For other organisms it is measured in stuff like suitable habitats. The trick is in the size of the boom.

Boom too big? You end up like European countries. Need to flood your lands with third world 84 IQ savages to support your debt economy or else there's a total implosion of everything causing the decline to be absolutely catastrophic.

>>130932878
Governments are concerned with using a young population as speculative collateral when borrowing their money. Politicians aren't concerned with the everyday lives of the citizens, just to what ends their enterprises can be achieved through borrowing money and growing the government. It's all about the pressure of international lenders and to what extent our politicians are levied.
Look at the IMF's attitude towards Japan.

>>130929221
Not third-world countries.. Only people with a proper education or business

>>130930220
No population is important to bankers who collect interest rates on debt that requires human beings to spend their money and acquire more and more debt

The population is coming down naturally, because they don't need the huge industrial workforces they needed in the past. This is a natural thing that comes when a nation grows wealthy.

With less people around, everyone has more room to live their lives to the fullest. Larger houses, larger cars, more wildlife. Higher quality of life for everyone. Not sure why this is considered a problem

>>130933892
Wrong. Automization will provide higher-paying jobs for a smaller number of people. It's perfect

>>130928143
who is girl....for research?

>>130928143
>A population can forever grow and expand on a planet with finite resources
You white people are fucking dumb. That's why us niggers are breeding your women and making them abandon you with our superior cocks, intellect and physical attributes.

>>130934293
It's considered a problem because less population means less debt. Less debt means less control over governments by banks which in turn means even less debt. If you don't need to take out a 20 year loan to buy a home, how on earth will the bank make a profit off a home sale? Just imagine a world where homes were cheap enough that people would just pay cash. How would the poor banks turn a profit?

>>130934419

>13-18%

Sit the fuck down. We probably killed more Indians than there are of you here.

>>130934419
>That's why us niggers are breeding your women
Where? In your fantasy? lmao

>>130928143
Based nips. A Japanese company bought Google's robot division. They're set.

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>>130928143
No, its much better to be culturally homogeneous.

>>130929401
>Hi, I am going to copycat a bait-thread that has been posted and debunked numerous times just to rile up shit and I clearly have malicious intent.
>Please believe my half assed attempt to virtue signalling on fucking 4chan of all places.

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>>130934408
No clue, but you can reverse image search with this original

>>130934908
Not only that but OP is a cuck macron fag.

>>130934935
she's beautiful.
Are hapa children okay? Or they are as fucked up as half black abominations? I visited Brazil once. Holy fuck, it was full of ugly light-kinda-skin "people". The only attractive people were white or black or asian

>>130928143
Quality > quantity

>>130934935
I will do some research and come back with some results.

>>130935053
If it's White/Japanese, it's probably good for IQ to mix.

>>130934321

ok, what are we going to do with all this cheap labor that can't find cheap labor jobs?

>>130935199
How do you know she's mixed? Looks very Asian to me

>>130929521
Tunisia and Yemen are pretty much at war.
Morocco & Saudi A have balls whiter than the white men.
Other muslim countries? They are coming from them.

>>130928143
>need
Um,no that would just replace their population completely

>>130934935
>>130935053
JUN AMAKI

>>130935444
>JUN AMAKI
papa bless

>>130935233
War?

>>130935324
She is japanese.
>inb4 b-but her eyes
Glue dude.
Glue unironicaly.

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>>130934408
Jun amaki

Japan if anything should allow its population to thin out. The Island is over populated. Birth rates are actually higher the last few years as well so there will be a pickup of births after a long time of increasing deaths.

Japs fuck good.
T. Jap fucker

>>130930429

Overpopluation is not a bloody myth.

It has nothing to do with living space. It has everything to do with resource and energy consumption.

Most of the world's population depends on dwindling finite resources to sustain it. It will eventually reach a point that there simply isn't enough to go around.

World War III is inevitable

>>130928143
When has taking in sandniggers from third world shitholes ever been a fix for the economy?
At best they are glorified NEETs (and japan already has enough NEETs) and at worst they are raping, murdering and robbing eachother and their host's population.

Just because your country is completely cucked doesn't mean every other that isn't enriched by the religion of peace yet needs to change.
Neck yourself.

>>130935324
You talked about hapa children. I just stated a response. Most likely though the beautiful Asians are a result of past breeding with whites during imperial times.

>>130928143
Oh no Japan is running out of goyims to issue debt to oh the humanity.

>>130929753

Japan is having a correction. Their currency was increasing in value while their wages stayed the same. Their "lost decade" is a jewish mirage. Trying to fix the debt overhang overnight would have just destroyed their economy.

It's only naive people, Jews and shabbos goy like Zerohedge who believe in """creative destruction""" to solve a debt overhang in a fundamentally healthy economy (trade surplus). Greece needs creative destruction, Japan just needs to slowly inflate away it's internal debt overhang.

If Japan had allowed itself to go into a true deflationary spiral without all it's deficit spending, their industrial base would have been obliterated, jews would have come in and bought everything for cents on the dollar and """save""" them. At which point the japs would have no choice but to obey their every command (ie. mass immigration).

>>130935537
This is where we are going soon sadly.
Get a gun and practice.

>>130935548
Top left is my fav.

>>130931272

Yep, the problem is that humans aren't meant to live beyond two generations. Our bodies literately fall about by the seams. Modern medical care barely fights it off at a great cost.

It is part of the reason why Heath Care is so bloody expensive.

>>130935581

There's more than enough for anyone capable of fighting. How are niggers supposed to fight WWIII?

>>130935830
Unless you're a euro nation that piggy backs off of US R&D costs.

>>130928143
No we are ok
Thanks

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>>130928143
>Japan is always the country being targetted about muh fertility rates muh collapse of the country
>also pretty much the only country in the world that still completely rejects multiculturalism
really makes you think as of why Japans fertility rates are always the subject of the VICE/BBC documentaries and all the articles.

It's almost like Japan is the last fortress of homogeneity.

>inb4 Poland or Czech Republic
They're in the EU, the powers at be pretty much considers them a done deal already.

Maybe /pol/ should stop taking the bait though

Japan is fine, stop doing the globalists job for them.

>>130936093

Most diseases are caused by US lifestyle too, it's only fair.

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All japan needs to do is to be less autistic and have sex

>>130936214
Well Europe and Australia are adopting our habits fast. It's probably the immigrants though.

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>>130929101
Where is Israel? How big is its circle?

>>130932164
Unavoidable. You can't just keep growing the population at that rate forever to try and avoid a crash. You take the hit and let the birth rate normalize once jobs open up and future prospects improve.
You don't fucking prop up the ponzi scheme you filthy fucking jews

>>130928143
If their population drops to 10 mil they'd still be fine. They have a giant bufferzone I wouldn't worry too much.

>>130931272

This is true.
If they found a way to repair DNA damage, then it would be fine.
Or more like if they released that knowledge to the public, fuckers already have it without a doubt.
Imagine having a retirement age of 86 years old or something, because the population is still functioning and routinely hitting 100 years.
People might not even want to live past 75 if that was the case and they might just off themselves.

>>130928143
>oh gawd the economy
Japan could never possibly exist as anything other than a degenerate anime corporate puppet state as it has since the beginning of time...

>>130928143
OP can you please use a consistent name in the subject field so I can filter your daily threads on this subject? I'm ready to be done looking at your shitposts.

>>130928865
You can't actually believe this. Lurk more frog faggot

>>130928143
>Increase productivity and human capital of each worker
>Increases wages for your citizens
>Increases profits for your elites
versus
>bring in a culturally incompatible, low IQ genetic orcs to work as a slave labor underclass
>which will drive down the wages of all the indigenous Japanese
>Cause social, political and cultural unrest
>also increases profits for your elites

Gee, which one, WHICH ONE is the better choice?

>>130936766
>work
Right, and this is the reason they flock in as great numbers into Spain or Portugal.

>>130928143
Anyone who thinks that population drop can decrease economy is an idiot. Look at any 3rd world country, population increasing and economy is still shit.

>>130928143
No. And if it is they need to change the economy (remove Jewish influence, usury, etc), not import subhumans who will only act as leeches and eventually destroy the quality of the Japanese gene pool. Japan is literally the only nonwhite country that is acceptable

>>130928143
No, Japan is smart.
Robots are coming to take the jobs, so the economy won't suffer from a shrinking workforce.
Fewer jobs will be available, so the shrinking population is advantageous since there will be fewer people to employ.
All the work still gets done, lower unemployment. Win win.

>>130936955
That's because their increase in demographics is artificial.
In a normal world, demographic booms are motivated by civilisational advancements, scientifics breakthrough or the end of a war.
NOT GIBBS

>>130928143
No, the economy will adapt to whatever population they have. Fuck the banks and their 20 year projections.

Money isn't important, Your People are.

>>130928143
>Homogenous Japan
You guys do know, that they simply ignore to register the Ainu, Korean and Chinese that migrated there during the Meji period right?

>>130937456
But unlike us, if they want to kick them out, they can.
They are not faced with the "muh dual citizenship" meme.

>>130928143
Let me run wild on their women for a week and i could solve this crisis.

>>130928143
DAILY REMINDER:
UN AIMS TO WIPE OUT THE ENTIRE WHITE RACE AND THE ORIENTAL POPULATION OF JAPAN AND SOUTH KOREA.

http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm

>>130930394

That's spot on. Japan is 1/3 the US population on 1/260 the land area.

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>>130928143
Quality > Quantity

>>130928143
Can someone explain this line of thinking?

Leftists often use automation to persuade people of the merits of socialism. They say that a universal basic income will be the only way people will make ends meet in the age of automation. Yet in the same breath, they say that we NEED refugees to fill the labor shortage, or we'll be doomed. I'd love an answer. Someone should make a smuggy of this.

>>130937947
>Leftists
>Thinking

Really it's pretty evident.

>>130928392
>Demographics can't.

Clearly it can, Ethnic Germans have been replaced 90% since WW2, why can't it happen again?

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>>130935053
NO RACEMIXING

Japan's older population will be mostly dead in 20-25 years and then they'll be totally fine.

>>130928143
> 40 Year old "Virgins".

Yeah mate. Right. Because if she's Japanese and still single at 40, she has never had sex.

Sure she hasn't.

>>130935548
How do the japs make decent-looking fake tits, whereas western doctors give our pornstars disgusting-looking bowling ball tits?

>>130934525
Oy vey goyim that is anti Semitic

>>130938392
I'd imagine they go to South Korea where the doctors have tons of experience because literally every single man woman and child has plastic surgery.

They simply need to convince the old people to not be a burden and commit sudoku

>>130934525
This too. Reminder that houses used to cost half of an annual salary. Now they cost 3-5 times your average annual salary.

>>130929972
where else are they gonna put a nuclear plant, does Japan even have any distant territories?

>>130928143
No declining population is a meme. The only person it affects negatively is industry executives and bankers.

>>130928855

Having an old country is a problem on a timer. They die eventually and the next generation reaps greater opportunities.

>>130937375

And eventually the island gets less overcrowded, pressures that keep people from starting families decrease, and they'll hit a point where they are at a sustainable comfort capacity (as opposed to carrying capacity.)

>>130933443
Also childcare is pretty much nonexistent so if you could have kids, nobody would watch them.

Nobody can afford to have kids because all the money is going to the elderly, who complain of nothing to do...

Hmmmm....

No solutions to this head scratcher.

>>130939004
How is this so hard for people to understand? The elderly wont live forever, particularly if their benefits start getting cut (which they will).

>>130939148
The issue is only a problem in nations where there are tons of shitskins like the USA (and now many european countries...) where we literally have to keep breeding more kids or else we'll get outplaced by shitskins and immigrants.

But in a homogeneous white nation, it wouldn't matter if we temporarily had low birthrates. These things fluctuate and balance out. People have this retarded idea that low birth rates mean they'll be low forever to the point where no one will be left. Which is utter bullshit.

>>130928143
Why don't they just have more babies?

>>130928763

Globalism.

>>130928143
Fuck off. Leave Japan alone you globalist faggot

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>>130939390
Why indeed. Could it have anything to do with economic and social policies that disincentivize child rearing and marriage?

>>130939129
I'm afraid this will never happen for us when we have so many immigrants.

>>130928547
>If it becomes a major problem they can always increase immigration from S. Korea, China, and other Asian countries.

This. Same way Europe is taking in Caucasians from the Middle East

>>130929101
>a few whites here and there are okay

Pathetic sexpat. Kill yourself

>>130928143
The Japanese will just work harder. They literally work themselves to death to avoid dishonor and shame. Millennials will just work constantly, automation will help some, but since they're so busy all the time they will have less children and things will just get worse and worse, they'll work more and more and fuck less and less. There will come a breaking point but we're nowhere near it yet.

>>130928143
>take in refugees
>refugees just leach off welfare
>never get a job
>never get an advanced technical job

that should accelerate their decline, worth it.

>>130928143
No the (((economy))) "declining" is going to decrease income inequality and the automated mostly every thing immigrants would do. So you Europeans are aware your being replaced? But France just like the US has a white birth rate of 1.9-2.0 and when Americans found out why (((they))) want immigrants trump happened.

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>>130928855
Difference between old fucks and niggers are that old fucks die and release money via inheritance or donations a-la Carnigie unlike Niggers who just pollute and take money away from the natives and leave nothing but more niglets to feed
>tl;dr Let the old people die off and the young will get moar money, while niggers bring more problems

>>130940226
Yes this too their work ethic is out of this world.

>>130929101
based

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>virgin killer sweater
>still half the nations youth are virgins

>>130928143
Rapefugess are a net loss with no positive qualities.
Better to die a peaceful death than have your whole country turned into hell first then die violently.

>>130938392
what makes you think they're fake?

>>130938392
def real tats

>>130928143

If you are not married, why should you not be a virgin?

God, I hate liberal morals.

>>130928143
Why do you think they are working on Artificial wombs?

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>>130933892
>implying

>>130928143
Because ever since after World War 2 their culture has become intense oriental autism.

>>130932164
Oh noooooo! That sucks!

Fuck off kike.

>>130941113

Unfortunately, it's going to be really hard for you to find a quality partner unless you develop these social and sexual skills that need practice.

That's just the world we live in now. Girls aren't waiting until they are married and neither are guys. If they do, there is usually something wrong with their mental health which leads to a lackluster social life

>>130941219
Fuck you france your being replaced by niggers and Arabs for literally no reason what so ever white birth rates in Europe are the highest in Northern Ireland,Ireland,and France in that order. Higher birth rates that european muzzies like Albanians and Northern Ireland/ROI have higher native birth rates than turkey but your all taking in immigrants en masse. Answer that. By the way the fattest demographic are black women.

Their culture has already been slowly dying since the Americans colonised it, importing immigrants would be the nail in the coffin.


That being said, their history is filled with hopeless situations that get solved by deus ex machinas. So I'm not really worried.

You have to understand the disconnect here. When they say "bigger economy" because of refuges, immigrants, etc., they're right, you will have greater growth. That helps (((bankers))). What the average person should care about, though, is their standard of living, real earnings (not just GDP per capita, but purchasing power), happiness, crime rate, etc. (((They))) don't care about that.

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>>130937777
Those 7s!

>>130941734
But MUH GDP!!! IT MAKE US LOOK GOOD!!! TOLERANCE

>>130932999
>Their plan is long-term, next 1 or 2 generations.
Implying poor niggers will get an education instead of becoming violent socialists and driving wealthy people away IE Detroit, Chicago, Venezuela... etc...

>>130941644
You know the reason?
The "birth rates issue" was a meme all along. As you you said, we didn't even had a birth rate issue and yet, they bring it as an issue. Just like they say how immigration bring money despite the fact they are poor, and how they "do the jobs we don't want to do" despite our huge unemployement rate or "how they bring many richess to our culture" despite the fact we are fuck France, or how "Islam is a religion of peace" despite the fact it's the most violent and degenerate one.
It's all about memeing you into believing immigration is good.
Why?
You guessed it, fuck you up to get a few more shekels.

>>130941434
Quality partners don't sleep around before marriage .

>>130928393
I think the likes of yourself (and by extension most of Western Europe) have no right to tell Japan they should go multicultural.

You know multiculturalism is a total failure.

>>130935937
>How are niggers supposed to fight WWIII?
Poorly.

>>130942034
They not (((them)))literally doubled your youth unemployment and took over southeast France again!!! But MUH GDP!!! Germans go straight forward and admit they're just getting cheaper public sector workers and maids to help their actually dying population. You know France have birth rate similiar to white Americans who won't have a fertility crisis(-1.5+high death rates until about 2100). Also at least the Jewish population in our countries are plummeting.

>>130937413
IMPORTING RAPEFUGEES ONLY DESTROYS THE ECONOMY.

STUPID SURRENDER MONKEY.

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Declining population is essential for the transition for an automated society. The west has blown it's load to early and is going to be overpopulated shithole with basic income for all the brown shit skins.

>>130942636
lol mr ethnic change rate of 1.5% a year but I know le 60%

>>130928143
They don't need refugees, but they need to star reproducing.

Can't have nationalism without natalism.

>>130928143
japan would probably be pretty awesome if less densely populated.
Tokyo train commute looks like hell.

lower population is only a problem for the bankers who now rely on debt to make money

>>130942788
Japan is 60% the size of the US white population but has 40% less kids then white Americans who only have a birth rate of 1.9

>>130928143
They can take refugges and latter chop them with katanas

>>130930356

Actually depopulation can be a big head ache for the consumer, if prices go up in production living costs could become very expensive.

It also leads to what Japan is having right now, a long drawn out recession that hits the youth.

>>130928143
The same question every day .
>The answer is NO

Why do you care about Japan anyway ? Got a dog in this fight if they import muslims or not ?

>>130928143
Their zombie economy is a threat to their birth rates. No savings, high inflation overregulation destroy certainty and opportunities for young people ---> destroys confidence and optimism --->no families, kids

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>>130928143
Japanese are the master ra.....

>>130938392
http://metro.co.uk/2015/06/24/japanese-womens-boobs-are-getting-bigger-fyi-5263813/

>>130943417
We'll tell you what your opinion is, nigger.

>>130940478
>white birth rate of 1.9-2.0
>white
Lol. Guess thanks to who we have this high birth rate

>>130936623
this
better off fucking over a single generation instead of fucking up the country forever

>>130942215
>I think the likes of yourself (and by extension most of Western Europe) have no right to tell Japan they should go multicultural.
Who said I want them to be multicultural?
Fucking read

>>130928143
You're 30 years late mate. They've had a minister for specilized in that problem for like 15 years. That's what happens when you keep growing akward weebs who spends their time watching porn instead of fucking

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>>130928143

It be pretty damn funny if Japan only took 'refugees' that are white. Only Ukrainians or white Euros fleeing their countries from the muzzie hordes.

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>>130943706

kek, I like how the shape of the state is in the name and they still got it wrong....

Nips seem to be as clueless about geography as us burgers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8E8wkly_JA&t

>>130944001
Rapefugees.

It's natural selection. The japs who reproduce are the future, while the hikikomoris die out.

>>130943725
Fuck I need me a hot busty waifu.

>>130944564
We're not Sweden
Our speciality is Algerians

>>130929466
>soviet style central management of economy
You know how stupid that sounds, right? The answer is to let the market take care of it. Wage fluctuation will price in the changes that need to happen so long as ignorant bureaucrats are prevented from meddling in things.

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>I-if you want to take our women you'll have to go through me first!
>w-white p-pig

What do?

>>130930356
Japan is so based American really should not try to talk shit

>>130944302
they could import tons of other Asians and be fine

shills will still bitch about it though

>>130944886
*unzip dick*

Smaller, aging population = less economy of scale & less innovation

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>>130928143

You should be skinned alive and tossed into a shark pit for making these threads every single day you absolute faggot.

>>130928323
This. Nature has a way of reaching equilibrium

>>130945033
cat ears are such a turn off

>>130928143
Why take in refugees. They can increase immigration and try to screen out piece of shits

>Automation so you don't need as many people

Don't see the problem

>>130944824

Funny, you're the one defending government interference in free market. Government is the one restricting the free flow of labor and preventing the market from setting wages more freely.

>>130928143
They need to re-program some of the old ways into themselves.

>>130928143
No there are enough people we just need higher wages.

>>130945234

Automation is expensive for most jobs, dude. Think of immigrant labor as a technology (it allows you to generate services or goods at a lower cost). If you don't accept immigrants, it's like making a cost-saving technology illegal.

>>130928143
Nah nips will be fine. They might have an economic collapse. But with majority of their debt in house, and the culture intact even a hard default should be fairly orderly.

It's not like Euro nations that are balls deep in international debt and changing their relative monocultures into 3rd world cultural enrichment centers.

When the next global recession comes Europe will explode. If it is Depression level Europe will create another world war. We will all have to pay for their ignorance once again.

>>130945535
and the wages will get higher only with less people.

>>130928143
>>130928143
They already have thousands of guest workers from Thailand and the Philippines.
Foreign wives from Korea are also popular.

>>130928143
>pic
How the fuck do they not want to breed that every second of the day?

>>130945171
To you.

>>130931607

MYYYYYY

Watch this video, /pol/.

https://youtu.be/uXMnAPGY1uE

>>130928865
This is why Paris is a shithole, and yes I have been there. I value having a good place to live over constant gdp growth. Burn in hell.

>>130928143
Subsidize having kids, give families benefots for more kids, give them the incentive to have kids. Mass immigration is not the only solution

>>130929101
>Turkey
>Jordan
>Lebanon
They all border Syria.
>G7
None of them are even close to Syria.

Do you know what country also borders Syria but only accepts wounded militants inside? That's right, Israel.

>>130945790
They do. Look at their pornography culture. Degenerate to the max since forever.

Problem is they have the same issues we do just magnified. Average wage is shit to raise a family. Average home is ridiculously expensive. Average female wants more than average.

Average male just wants to get off and be comfy. Family life is too far away from that.

>>130945790
It's expensive firstly, plus in Japan you got Gundams to paint and trains to ride and hentai to fap, and bitches do not shave their snatch whatsoever. They just don't practice that

>>130945790
They do but they are so introverted all they can hope for is seeing related in JAVs.

The population is aging. The only reason this is a problem is because muh pension scheme. Basically they'll die eventually, young people will be able to afford housing and they'll afford children as well. There will be hard times in between but it'll be fine.

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>>130928143

Japanese women can solve the marriage problem by marrying men of lower economic status. After all, Feminism says women can be breadwinners and men can be homemakers.

But they won't, because are hypergamous by nature. Women hold the cards in this game, and always have. So they can either marry down or shut the fuck up.

>>130928143
same amount of wealth distributed over less people... this makes you richer

>>130943252
I would rather our county go through Great Depression 2.0 than import 100,000,000 spics

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>>130928143
No. The conventional wisdom that unchecked population growth is vital for economic growth is false. First you could argue that a tiny island nation like Japan is already saturated, and second with automation and a large worker population is less important with a shift away from a labor/industry based economy. The biggest concern is what it will mean for the welfare state and geriatrics.

>>130928143
No, why would they?
They will take alphas made for breeding and economic success.
No point bringing in someone that will lower your IQ.

>>130946224
>and bitches do not shave their snatch whatsoever. They just don't practice that
and that's a bad thing????????

>>130944001
First generation Nigerian women in France have over 4 kids on average. Just saying.

>>130943906
Typical kikery
>>130946429
this and the the population will rebound after people feel more prosperous

its all an excuse to muslimfy the West all the way from Paris to Tokyo

>>130936181
>lower birthrate than fucking japan
Just fuck our shit up

>>130945699
We're not gonna be any better senpai, niggs and spics will race riot just like the muzzies

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>>130931385
Shardik

>>130944886
Backhand her into unconsciousness and deliver her to an Asian man, as is proper

>>130946947
>her
Hehe

>>130928143
I am already learnig japanese and will work in an skilled engineer position.

In return I will only ask for a qt 3.14 traditional nip gf so I can breed with her tons of sons and live a comfy and peaceful life in homogeneous japan.

>>130945171
Yea now they are.

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>>130930297
The noblerot is real.

>>130928143
Overpopulation is a meme

>>130932164

Yes, they should import boatloads of Somalians who will support their economy and protect their society.

>>130947175
Get your moorish ass away from my nips.

>>130941219
Is that a fleshlight?

>>130947484
You didn't watch the full video?

>>130947484
it's really hard to say. a friend of mine is an expert on these things i sent the webm to him to analyze the frames, i should hear back from him soon

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>>130947484

>>130944886
this is why i love japanese guys, they are cuter than the girl and have feminine benis!

>>130947484
>>130947621
"Fleshlight Launch"

Wtf is wrong with you fags.

>>130932333
There are too many niggers and Muslims. Not enough whites and Japs

>>130945989
t. zoophile
>>130945790
they do, but japanese males are freaking betas who prefer mangas and robotic girlfriends

>>130946635
Sauce
>>130946094
Kys

>>130948105
Cats are qts, cat ears accent qt girls. I'm no furfag though.

>>130947799
>Fleshlight Launch
what did he mean by this?

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>>130932758

Haku Zynkyoku

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9jajP3bi58&t=293s

>>130948411
Cats are qts
Cats are animals
Petting a cat is kyute
Fucking one isn't.

Cat-ears -> Make me think about cats -> Not arousing.

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>>130948436
Seriously retard?

>>130948692
I think of it more like a sexy accessory like sunglasses than relating to cats. Cat tails are just as good when paired with.

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>>130936603

B-b-b-but...b-but...

>>130949034
do you know what an ID is? go back and read the posts very carefully

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>>130935053

Japanese/White might be cool, but some Asian/White hybrids turn out unusually fucked up.

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>>130928143