Will i get canned for this?

>>130913250
Just tell them its for protection, the world is crazy polish bro.

>>130913250
wtf do you want a vest for, the cops would definitely be suspicious that you are into some sketchy shit.

>>130913250
mfw these are illegal in australia. Yeah, thats right, body armor is fucking illegal.

>>130913490
Let's say i don't feel too "safe" these days, like >>130913332 said, the world is crazy.

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>>130913250
TELL ME ABOUT ANON! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE VEST!?

>>130913250
I don't think there's any legal issues with that in Europe, but cops are probably going to want to question you about it.

>>130913250
Send link, looking for one since ever, all I find are burger sites.

>>130913250
i believe a chinese bulletproof vest its about 100$ and its okay if you trust the internet

>>130913529
Shit dude you need a fucking License to get one here, although i found a good mil site that sells IIIA type armors without any licenses and shit and it's all legal
>>130913591
https://www.frogtac.pl/Taktyczna-akcesoria/Balistyczne-wkladki-i-plyty/Balistyczna-kamizelka-DIPLOMAT-dla-ukrytego-noszenia-III-A-klasa-bal-odpornosci

>>130913250
Why, you live in Poland.

Why are body armors illegal? I get the point of a weapon being illegal, but armor doesn't make sense.

Even if it's used for assault, if the guy can get an assault weapon, he sure as hell can get body armor.

>>130913681
Better safe than sorry my dude, you'll never know when shit hit's the fan.

>>130913529
and airsoft, and unlicenced paintball guns, and nerfguns that hit too hard.

When did Strayans become such soft cunts?

Is plate armor illegal? I want to walk around in chainmail and plate. Would I be allowed to do thst?

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>>130913814
Jesus christ mate, all small kids here are running around with Airsoft guns and nobody gives a fuck. My condolences.

>>130913733
NWO

>>130913887
you can make your own chainmail, plenty of youtube videos that show you how. It's the superior choice when it comes to stopping knives and it very hard to tell that someone is wearing it under their clothes.

I have on from the Uk, its stab proof (tried to stab it with full force with an Kabar and it held) and bullet proof up to a magnum, ex copper vest, cost me a whopping 60 pounds.

I dont wear it all the time, but when I know there are big crowds or sketchy time of the day.

Dont know or care about the legality.

>>130913887
Kek. Why wouldn't you be allowed? People will just think there's a Ren faire or nerd convention in town.

>>130913250
You can get kevlar shirts that are stab proof.

>>130914038
Makes me wonder why we ever stopped wearing it at all. Much like fedoras.

>>130914041
Shiiit, so a Ballistic vest that can hold off both, bullets and knives exists?

>>130913814
slingshots and waterguns too

>>130914041
Fuck the legality. Banning protection like that would be an insane law to follow.

>>130914403
Yup, didnt actually believe it myself, not even though it said in the ad and on the vest itself. Im a strong guy too, and shit should have went through, but it doesnt. See if you can find one on ebay, I had no issues from there.

>>130914136
>kevlar
>stabproof
doubt.jpg

>>130914727
Alright, thanks for the heads-up. May i ask what's your vest? Model etc?

>>130914727
Also currently designing my extra leather jacket to become an undercover bodyarmour, gotta build plate holders for it that hold force. Bought the vest even before these bombings since increased immigration in my city had me worried. Sometimes patrol also to keep an eye out since actual terrorists have been arrested in my city.

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>>130914995
That sounds fun. I'm glad there's still people like you anon.

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>>130914990
No idea what model, ex uk cop at least

>>130913250
nope

There's this Christian kid on YouTube. Look up ZNA productions. He eventually grew out of his cringey zombie weapon phase and started making crusader tread plate armour and stun gun powered riot shields. However he also did some home made bullet proof plates. They stood up to 9mm, I think he tested .45acp, birdshot (obviously), buck and obviously .223 went clean through it.

Maybe you could make some using that video as a guide.

>>130913650
That law makes no fucking sense.

>>130913529
Illegal here too. It's really strange though. It's like banning helmets.

>>130913250
Useless in Poland with all of the Tokerevs and oldschool steel core 7.62x25 floating around there.

>>130915569
Tbh, true that.

>>130915369
Yes but its far less trouble and almost the same price to buy a fully functioning, real bodyarmour. I follow him too.

>>130913250
/k/ oughta give you better advice senpai

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Does pic related do anything or just make you look awesome whole dropping spaghetti?

>>130914995
Based Finn.

You might as well get a rape whistle, faggot. Get a gun OP!

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Don't commit a felony while wearing it snd your legally ok.

>>130915759
Of course, I agree, just ideal for some people like aussies that are banned from staying un-stabbed

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>>130915902
I do.

Fuck, if I was in Poland I would just get a full auto PPS-43 with steel core ammo from Russian mafia. Totally unfuckwithable.

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>>130913529
this is the same country that repeatedly grants bail for dangerous meth addict criminals with a history of firearm related crime.
this is what happens when judges like to fuck kids and will do anything including endangering the public to avoid being exposed.

>>130915959
True that, I would go for the aluminium build, its far easier unless your a heavy diyer, works as well against stabbing + its light as fuck, did one myself.

>>130915959
>its illegal to not get stabbed to death in Australia
The world we live in

>>130916060
I like how the one with the scope is a bb gun. Looks like an rws 34

>>130913250
Which job? If you work as a waiter, then yes.

>>130916253
Yes the one with the scope is an Air-Gun, AKMS is real and functional

>>130914014
LEAF

>>130913250
Will you get canned? Probably not...

Will the cops take the opportunity to use you as target practice? Probably..

>>130913529
I know a guy who wore a chainmail under his hoddie. He was afraid to get stabbed in school.

>>130916060
White Death confirmed.

https://youtu.be/ioz23_X4NKo

>>130913887
>I want to walk around in chainmail and plate.
autism: the post.

>>130916330
They're nice guns. I have something similar. It will kill small game like rabbits or squirrel out to 60 yards. Stupid accurate too

>>130916330
You poles are alright :^) you should come across the pond sometime and gang with us.

>>130913539
They will just think you are a crazy guy, but why? Poland hast really low gun ownership.

Its easier to win powerball than it is to get shot in Poland.
Unless you plan on being the first guy to walk into a kebabshop with an AK and try your best versus SWAT or something.

>>130916446
This. Bullet proof wests are not that expensive. You can get that shit of Amazon.

>>130913250

Yes, but it's not illegal.
Some security guards, which are civilian organisations, wear them.
The police are more interested in weapons, not defensive equipment like armour. Like you could walk around dressed in knights armour and be fine, just don't bring a broadsword with you.

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>>130916621
Suddenly remembering that Swedish templar autist.

>>130913250
Perfectly fine in Burgerland, what's your local law look like anon?
Always genuinely curious about laws in other countries relating to guns and sheeit

>>130916446

Kekiddy kek

>>130913733
Because if a refugee wants to enrich you, its racist to resist.

>>130916829
To get a Gun License you need to pass a shit-load of tests so they won't hand out shit to mentally "diffrent" people, laws about Ballistic Vests and shit are very complicated, it's like, It's totally legal to own one and shit, but you need licenses to buy one, unless you buy one from E-Bay or some other country. There is, of course alot of holes in the System that can grant you a License for a gun within 2 months.

>>130915837
It looks like something a communist dictator would wear.

>>130913650
May I humbly suggest you get the license then, anon?
Got my concealed firearm license since I already toted my hammer everywhere. Now it's legal. Pretty comfy man

>>130913250
How would the police know you're wearing it if it's under a hoodie?

Im pretty sure the australian law doesnt extend to stab proof protection. Its for bullet proof. Police dont use knives and certain activities require stab proof armour.
Like swimming with sharks.

>>130917203
These vests tend to give you a bulker look on your chest area that looks rather... weird, and the Cops here love to ask questions.
>>130917186
I do have a license, you can't get a conceal carry license in here, unless you are some SS or a higher rank in Military/Police.

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>>130913529
i have three. one i purchased just two weeks ago i walked in gave the man my money and walked out. freedom.

>>130913250
>>130913529
Here in Germany you can buy them even on amazon

https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_1_7/260-6993864-2763849?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=schusssichere+weste&sprefix=Schusss%2Caps%2C306&crid=12I9I4TTDSSUT

>>130914995
Check out bulletproofme dot com, they sell "testing" ballistic panels with any order for like ten bucks each. They're like level II. No warranty but mine hold up fine. I like to stuff them in backpacks but you can absolutely sew one into the lining of your jacket and get comfy protection against handgun bullets, slashing, and fragments.

>>130913529
People will post memes to the end of time about this but the rationale for the law is solid.

Nobody EDC's a vest who can't get one under the licensing scheme. It's not even "you don't need a vest," it's "you wouldn't use a vest even if they were legal."

The only people who would use vests but can't buy them are people planning to be shot at by law enforcement.

>>130913250
There is a company called blade runner that make bullet and stab resistance clothing, some of it is quite stylish. There is a nice jacket that has III3A level protection which will protect you against pretty much anything .45 and under. They also have some nice stab resistance hoodies for around $100 for the ladies, I'm thinking about picking one up for my sister this Christmas

>>130913250
just a warning, apparently body armor that is considered mainly for "military usage" is forbidden in the EU (kek)
make sure it cant be considered that
Sauce:
https://www.safeguardarmor.com/articles/body-armor-us-laws/

>>130916060
Are they airshit, or can you remove kebab with them?

>>130913814
1996

>>130917517
Thanks Bulgarianbro
>>130917582
The scoped one is, the AK isn't.

>>130915257
Didn't see this post before my other reply. Yep, you have a full panel, no need to do anything other than sew one of these into your jacket through the shell (not the kevlar itself.) I'd tack it in at the top corners and use the jacket liner to keep it from flapping around. Don't forget to waterproof your seams because kevlar loses ballistic resistance pretty rapidly when it's wet and that's what the shell is for.

>>130917478
...who would just buy one illegal anyway. You see how that doesn't work?

>>130917478
Exactly so how can they say knife proof vests are illegal. When do police use knives over anything else.

>>130917667
you cannot convince these "people"

>>130917303
Thanks anon, I learned a thing.
Guess we have it pretty good in the US, gotta stay vigilant.

Do you guys think it could be possible to replace IIIA plates in a ballistic vest with IV plates?

>>130917478
what about getting stabbed by drunk abos

>>130917330
The stab west was tested by this YouTube guy who proved it's worth shit and you can easily break it. Dailymail tried to get him deleted from YouTube for "inciting terrorism" or some shit.

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>>130913250
Why would you wear an airsoft vest? Look at this picture...

>>130917929
The one in here https://www.frogtac.pl/Taktyczna-akcesoria/Balistyczne-wkladki-i-plyty/Balistyczna-kamizelka-DIPLOMAT-dla-ukrytego-noszenia-III-A-klasa-bal-odpornosci has IIIA plates

>>130918012
>https://www.frogtac.pl/Taktyczna-akcesoria/Balistyczne-wkladki-i-plyty/Balistyczna-kamizelka-DIPLOMAT-dla-ukrytego-noszenia-III-A-klasa-bal-odpornosci
ah, pic related must be a replica

>>130917634
Can you carry knives? I thought based Poland was keeping the muzzies out...you really should check out /k/ if you can get through the autism they can point you in a good direction...either way stay strong and keep your head on a swivel

>>130917870
Yes, the plates are interchangeable if they are the same size...most have interchangeable soft armor too. The outer part is just a shell

>>130917381
Thx m8

>>130918069
yes and no, we can carry knives but if you use it to "Threaten" someone or actually attack someone with it, yer gonna get fucked big time by the Popos. Also thanks for the heads-up

>>130917657
Oh damn, didnt know that, thx for that too

>>130917633
Did this just turn into a YLYL thread? Because I just lost.

>>130918340
Anytime bro. I like your idea, might make one of my own!

>>130917895
I think abos are a feature only encountered when driving a vehicle

>>130917667
Your assertion does not materialise in real life. Criminals by and large of all stripes do not possess body armour.
Clearly it is not as easy to get as you think it is.

>>130913250
No, bodyarmour is not illegal in Poland.

>>130918542
Yeah they do bro, that's why we have rifles in squad cars here, accuracy and penetration. The average gangbanger doesn't, but professional crews do

>>130918790
You realise that Australia and America are different countries, right?

>>130918542
>what is a black market

Just because it isnt easy, son, doesn't mean they wont get it. All you've done is restrict the rights of non criminals in a useless effort to stop criminals. Prohibition doesn't work, it isn't effective and it isnt moral. stay cucked.

>>130918837
Didn't realize you were only referring to Australia

>>130918855
>yet more vague and baseless assertions
You can keep posturing all you like. Criminals in Australia by and large do not possess body armour.

Clearly it is not as easy to get as you assert.

If it was, we would see it more often.

Turn on your brain.

>>130918951
No worries, I should have been more specific.

>>130918954
Body armor is totally legal in the US and super easy to get - it's been seen so rarely in crimes that the very very very rare times it's occurred it's been massive news. The last time I recall any actual crime from someone with body armor was that crazy shit in LA at the bank in the 90s.

>>130913250
No ideas about your country laws but here only people who would bug you is if you leave in a leftist city or state but even than they can't arrest you for it.

>>130919053
North Hollywood shootout/ bank robbery it was a mess

>>130919142
>>130919092
It was fucking epic.
Didn't the US Police got upgrades and alot of new tactics after that?

>>130914995
Prepping with Pekka

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>>130913650
Can you guys also own plates or only soft body armor? Pretty fucked up that you need to get a license to buy one but at least you can buy one compared to other countries where its illegal.

Bought my self a couple level III+ plates that can stop armor piercing .308 and I bought a plate carrier. Going to rock them in the woods for exercise.

Hoodie? Just go all out an by yourself a suit of spring steel, m8. If you want to mask that you are armored you could wear a cloak but why would you want to do that? Armor instills fear in brigands, like the head of a halberd seen approaching through a crowd.

>>130913250
What the fuck do you need it for in Poland? Unless you re involved in some shady bussiness the chance of even encountering criminal with a knife or gun is like 1 in a milion.

>>130919259
You can buy plates, yes. Any grade actually.

>>130916253
how can you tell?

>>130919359
Very nice, was worried that they only allowed only soft body armor for purchase.

>>130919303
Because i am a paranoid fuck.

>>130919233
Yes, it contributed to the militarization of our police. The only reason they were stopped is because the cops raided a sporting goods store for rifles. I was a cop in a high crime area in the early 2000s, I had 2 rifles a shotgun, and 3 pistols in my car and 2 pistols on me at all times.

>>130919053
"I didn't see it in the media," =/= "it doesn't happen."
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/human_nature/2012/08/criminals_in_body_armor_how_many_felons_wear_bulletproof_vests_.html
>SLATE!!!!!
Let's skip the posturing and just read the article. I know it's couched in progressive agenda but there is actual research about midway through describing the problem.

As I said, body armour serves no purpose whatsoever for anyone who can't get it through a licensing scheme. You will never wear a bullet proof vest as part of your EDC. I defy you to do it for a year through an Australian summer. It will sit at home on your shelf all day every day. And the same people who screech about how keeping guns in gun safes is unacceptable because of the five second delay in accessing them will then say they have time to suit up in their plate carrier, leggings, ballistic helmet, and tacmask when things go BOOM BOOM CRASH in the night.

The more criminals are armed, the more police need to militarise to maintain their advantage. If he has a bit of pipe, you need a few guys with pistols. If he has an assault rifle and a bulletproof vest you need half the department and the MRAP with a 30mm Bushmaster. Who do you want policing your community?

>>130919477
Checked. Archive the shills: https://archive.is/0MGJM

>>130916407
Actually a legit idea, you can get decent quality welded ringed chainmail t shirts now for a couple hundred here.
Chainmail, when made right, is fuckin strong stuff, seeing as actual body armor/stab vests here are both costly and illegal without a genuine reason, it's the next best thing.

I know a guy I worked security with some years back who wore it under his uniform when he worked in a place that was known for armed robberies and abos.

>>130919475
Damn bro, sounds like fun!

>>130919588
It was fun at times...but it made me mean, and I learned the differences in races

>b-but why would body armor ever be illegal? it's just protection, it makes no sense!
Fucking hell /pol/, I thought you were smarter than this.

It's obviously because then the government wouldn't be able to shoot and kill you right away whenever they wanted. It's the same reasoning behind gun laws, they don't want you to be able to fight back on equal ground.

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>>130919508
God's work.

>>130919477
>tfw a cop got killed near me a few weeks ago by a guy with a FA SKS
>they literally used an two entire departments, fuck tons of SERT and their armoured trucks and a fuckin bearcat to get him

>>130917478
yeah cause getting stabbed by some african or methed out cunt is so rare. not only can you not defend yourself with force, but you cant even take preventative measures. good one melbourne

>>130919898
Lol...better safe than sorry...always use everything you got

>>130920012
Pretty sure it doesnt cover stab proof.

>>130920012
>not only can you not defend yourself with force
Objectively wrong.

CRIMINAL CODE 1899 - SECT 271

271 Self-defence against unprovoked assault
(1) When a person is unlawfully assaulted, and has not provoked the assault, it is lawful for the person to use such force to the assailant as is reasonably necessary to make effectual defence against the assault, if the force used is not intended, and is not such as is likely, to cause death or grievous bodily harm.
(2) If the nature of the assault is such as to cause reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm, and the person using force by way of defence believes, on reasonable grounds, that the person can not otherwise preserve the person defended from death or grievous bodily harm, it is lawful for the person to use any such force to the assailant as is necessary for defence, even though such force may cause death or grievous bodily harm.

>>130919408
Maybe you should invest that money in the therapy, not a fucking body armour.

>>130920125
Nah, better safe than fucking sorry.

>>130913250
Tell them it's for sport? I do HEMA and have half a set of riot protection gear, never got into any problems

>>130920103
Knew someone who used this as a defence and they were the attacker.

>>130918954
I don't give a flying fuck how much you like being cucked. The rights of people are being restricted. You don't seem to care.

>>130920236
He probably used this one:

CRIMINAL CODE 1899 - SECT 272

272 Self-defence against provoked assault
(1) When a person has unlawfully assaulted another or has provoked an assault from another, and that other assaults the person with such violence as to cause reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm, and to induce the person to believe, on reasonable grounds, that it is necessary for the person's preservation from death or grievous bodily harm to use force in self-defence, the person is not criminally responsible for using any such force as is reasonably necessary for such preservation, although such force may cause death or grievous bodily harm.
(2) This protection does not extend to a case in which the person using force which causes death or grievous bodily harm first begun the assault with intent to kill or to do grievous bodily harm to some person; nor to a case in which the person using force which causes death or grievous bodily harm endeavoured to kill or to do grievous bodily harm to some person before the necessity of so preserving himself or herself arose; nor, in either case, unless, before such necessity arose, the person using such force declined further conflict, and quitted it or retreated from it as far as was practicable.

If you shove someone and they pull a gun you can kill them in self defence. But it doesn't apply if you pull a gun and then they pull a gun.

>>130920270
>I don't give a flying fuck how much you like being cucked
I don't give a flying fuck about your opinions.

You made one quantifiable statement: criminals always find a way to get body armour on a scale that makes prohibition pointless.

Turns out this statement is wrong.

Thanks for your contribution.

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>>130920103
yeah that makes me feel much safer. when mohamed and abduhl attack me with machetes i will use my rape whistle to rupture their ear drums. the laws are a fucking joke, why are you defending the shit?

>>130920520
Glad my state has constitutional carry

>>130913529
Its intolerant to terrorists

>>130913591
Buy a steel mail shirt.

>>130920356
In the case im talking about the defendant attacked another unprovoked while threatening to kill them and then accused them of threatening to kill them(lie) they got a slap on the wrist.

>>130920553
>why are you defending the shit?
You are objectively wrong.

Pointing out that you are objectively wrong is not "defending" shit. You are not "under attack" when people point out your mistakes.

I am trying to help you make better arguments.

>>130920659
How bad are the gun laws in straya? Like no guns whatsoever?

>>130920624
I can believe that. Some of the shit our clients get away with is ridiculous. I once had a client charged with SIXTY offences still get bail.

>>130913250
You can't be serious.

>>130920192
Anon, it's much more probable you'll die in a car accident than in a fucking robbery gone wrong. Not to mention than even if you re lucky enough to ever be attacked with a weapon it will most likely be a knife and vest provides little protection from that. If somebody can stab you in the chest he probably can cut your neck just as easily.

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>>130913250
>not rolling around town in full battle rattle
It's like you don't want to look cool

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>>130920749
A and B are rubber stamps. Pay your fee, don't be a criminal, get your guns. Must be kept in a safe with ammo separate when not in use, and must be transported directly to and from the location where they are being used without deviation.
C and D is for people who genuinely "need" them. If you shoot kangaroos for a living you might get a license for a single category D rifle.
E is genuine reason, again.
H is a rubber stamp with more hoops. No concealed carry or anything though.
M is not a real category. You don't need a license for cat M weapons, the category exists for other purposes in legislation.

You will never own a category R weapon.

Interestingly pre-1900 handguns that don't use cartridges don't need any license at all, so it's perfectly legal to tote your Colt muzzeloading percussion cap revolver around. Well, not really - you're not allowed to carry around anything with the explicit intent of using it as a weapon, and because a gun has no other use you will never be able to say "I'm a butcher and I need these knives because I am working," or whatever.

But still interesting.

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>>130913529
What's the justification? I imagine it won't help against a bomb it's why they don't outlaw it in the UK.

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>>130913541
Perhaps he's wondering why you'd turn him into an African country after admitting him into the European Union?

>>130920909
Stabbings happen pretty fast and unprovoked without warning they go for the body then they slash when you resist. If there first strikes are at your body and they are blocked it gives you valuable seconds to get away or retaliate. Hell theyd even stop from the shock of stabbing doing nothing.
I always think how many women could be saved if they had stab proof vests.

>>130920749
>>130921175
Here are the actual categories by the way.
https://www.police.qld.gov.au/programs/weaponsLicensing/licenceApplication/weapons/categories/categories.htm
>Each of the following is a category R weapon--
>(e) an acoustical antipersonnel device of an intensity that is capable of causing bodily harm;

mfw [music genre that you like] is illegal in Australia.

>>130921218
It sure as hell will help against a bomb... Most bomb deaths are caused by fragments, not overpressure. Even a shitty vest is going to stop most fragments. Get you one

>>130921218
Its bullet proof and its so you dont have an advantage over police.

>>130921464
I rarely visit big gatherings but I am to go to one, I will.

>>130913250
You may want to check that its legal. Its illegal in many parts of Europe, because its important that the state be able to kill its citizens at anytime.

>politicians are allowed to go into public wearing discrete vests and be surrounded by armed guards
>citizens aren't
hmm makes me think

>>130921373
Yea, in Detroit maybe. I live in polish city thats been infamous for its high crime rates and never even seen anyone pulling out the knife.
>inb4 leave your mothers basement
And that while leaving a normie student lifestyle

>>130913250

If you don't give them any reason to talk to you they won't bother you.

Police usually only bother you if you are acting weird or drunk in public.

>>130922130
>I've never personally witnessed a crime so that means it'll never happen to me
Hmm yes, hm indeed.

>>130922244
This.

>>130920659
its "my mistake" for thinking people should be able to protect their body from injury. So its objectivly wrong to wear a seatbelt because there is only a small chance you will be in an accident? so the guy who has to walk home late from work through the bad neigbourhood wears a vest, he is attacked and stabbed, but survives because of the vest. He was wrong to wear the vest and should of just died instead? "b.but muh criminals will use them". they could easily just put them under catagory A licensing.

>>130922503
>its "my mistake" for thinking people should be able to protect their body from injury
That is not the mistake I am correcting you on and you know it. See: >>130920103. I quote the specific part of your post that is wrong.

>>130920080
Wait, you don't wear chain mail under the vest?

>>130922584
once again. criminals have weapons, you are not allowed a weapon. how do you expect people to defend themselves? and lets be real for a moment shall we? We both know this countries legal system is a fucking joke and the using deadly force is a huge risk that will likely get you jail time, especially if the perpetrator is ethnic. in a life or death situation, you shouldnt have to second guess yourself.

>>130922130
I used to be like you then three experiences over several years changed my outlook. Now i dont let my guard down around certain people.
The stand out thing was how they all happened with very little warning and suddenly.

>>130922244
No, but it shows that must be pretty rare. As for the stats murder rate per 100 000 inhabitants in Poland is 0,74. Considering that most of the murder victims are killed by the people they know for some personal reason, the risk of normal law abiding citizien being stabbed by some random fuck on the street is even smaller.

>>130922924
And where are you from?

>>130921218
Some countries only ban them if you're a convicted criminal. Basically they don't want you to pull wonky shit and then evade getting shot by the police. You're far more dangerous to law enforcement as a criminal if you wear body armor.

>>130923095
Ausfalia

>>130922830
>how do you expect people to defend themselves?
With "any such force to the assailant as is necessary for defence, even though such force may cause death or grievous bodily harm."

>We both know this countries legal system is a fucking joke and the using deadly force is a huge risk that will likely get you jail time, especially if the perpetrator is ethnic
No, we don't.

I work for a preferred supplier for Legal Aid Queensland. Nothing is without flaws but if you want to see a legal system that is a joke go to fucking Africa. You have no idea how good you have it here.

As far as the "using deadly force is a huge risk that will likely get you jail time," I disagree. Using deadly force unlawfully is a crime, and SHOULD get you jail time. The law isn't complicated. What gets you jail time is being an up-jumped Ameriboo wannabe who shoots people in the back as they flee your property because you're mad and arrogant and then bitch to A Current Affair about how "unfair" the legal system is and how you're being "punished" for nothing so much as... appointing yourself judge, jury, and executioner, and singlehandedly undermining the rule of law that protects us all - criminal and citizen alike. Oh wait: criminals are citizens too. Wow, it's almost as if the legal system strives for an outcome that is fair in all the circumstances and not just a rubber stamp on the unlimited rights of you and your friends.

Feel free to name me a single case that you think exemplifies the type of ruling you suggest is commonplace. I suspect you can't - all you have is a "perception" of the legal system, not experience with it.

I don't entirely disagree with you, anon. I think that this country's weapons laws are bad and do not achieve anyone's goals - neither the gun control proponents nor the gun proliferation proponents. There is a better way. But that better way can only be attained through dispassionate analysis. Not parroting party slogans imported from America.

>>130923028
unfortunately we don't all live as one singular hivemind with your mind at the nucleus. if someone feels some sort of anxiety that can be alleviated by wearing some protection, who are you to say they're wrong? no one is trying to convince YOU to wear a vest.

>>130919477
>Who do you want policing your community?
Those who live in it. Police are a fucking joke.

>>130913250
>doesn't even have ceramic or steel plate inserts
That isn't going to protect you from most rifle shots.

Kevlar "rots" over time and becomes less bullet resistant , just fyi.

>>130922924
There is a difference between being reasonably careful in certain situations and wearing a fucking body armour, dont you think? Anyway, not letting your guard down is always commendable, the reason why the males between the age 15 to 25 are most often victims of violent crimes is because they tend to disregard their safety, act provocative or walk around completely drunk.

>>130922924
Around blacks never relax.

>>130923539
Pretty accurate

>>130923261
This is the kind of thinking that leads people who dont feel they were born in the right body to cut off their genitals. You dont bow to your paranoid delusion, you get help. Wearing body armour for no reason in relatively safe country is strange enough, but where does it go from here? Once this idiot acknowledges that there is bigger chance of him being killed by a car than stabbed what will he do? Start wearing a helmet? A full plate armour?

>>130914488
don't you have some knives to bin?

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>>130923746
>Once this idiot acknowledges that there is bigger chance of him being killed by a car than stabbed what will he do
What happens if he gets hit by a car and then stabbed?

>>130924982
That should make him realize that migrating to the UK was a bad idea

>>130913250
In Poland ? Yes, mate you can get canned for almost anything. We live in a fucking Police state.There is a law that can get you canned for 48 hours without any reason.
Basically the way it works is Police puts you in a jail cell and they have 48 hours to provide to the court an argumentation why they've detained you. If they do not comply and the court doesn't get any formal cause of arrest they have to release you.

>>130925499
>without any reason.
Article 244 of polish criminal procedure code says otherwise

>>130914152
guns.

I don't think chainmail was ever used by civilians (not militia) en masse.

>>130913250

Bend the vest

>>130921364
At least you can talk!

>>130914488
oi bin that unlicensed telly and knife m8

>>130919389
how do you chamber a round?
look at the pic

>>130913250

Why don't you wear a dress, faggot

>>130925718
what do you mean

>>130925676
When you are being detained by the Police, its the Police role to interpret the law not yours. The way Polish Police interprets article 244 is that all they have to do to detain you is to prove your INTENT and not whether you've done anything. When they put you in jail cell then they have 48 hours to provide the sufficient evidence to the court whether you've done the crime you've INTENDED. Do you understand mate? Don't resist and don't be a smart ass quoting 244 or you will be in a world of SHIT mate.

>>130927725
We have a Police State disguised as a liberal Democracy. Don't be fouled.

>>130913250
Vest are legal in Europe m8

>>130927725
It doesnt make it lawful. I am not saying you should resist detainment because thats always stupid, but afterwards you can try your luck in courtroom. Anyway what you said about law allowing detainment without reason is objectively false and the fact that police abuses its powers doesnt change that. Anyway I imagine they will be more careful now, that shitshow with guy dying after being tazed made too much fuss in the media.

>>130925788
If I took away your welfare, would you die??

>>130913529
Cuck

>>130913250
Fuck the vest. Get an AR and 25000 rounds.

>>130928797
Oh yeah, that guy with the taser thing almost forgot about that that was fucked up.
>but afterwards you can try your luck in courtroom.
That's the thing you will not get a day in court because they will release you in 2 days. Of course later you can write a formal complain.
When they arrest you all they need is to say that "you've intended something" then they put you in jail cell and notify the Prosecutor.The Prosecutor notifies the Court that they have you. Then the court gives the Police 48 hours to give the evidence of that intent or possible wrong-doing whatever it might be.

>>130928797
>objectively false
It can be very much objectively false to you but not to the Policeman and that's the Police State aspect of our democracy.Police is always right bullshit.

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>>130913250
>mfw europeans can't wear body armor whenever they want

>>130913250
Tell them it's a suicide bomb vest and they'l run away and leave you alone

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>>130913529
I can buy level III armor off Alex Jones website shipped to my door.

>>130929752
You can sue or issue a complaint. Judges in criminal courts know better than anyone else what kind of peple serve in the police. Anyway I imagine they wouldnt abuse their power so easily if the people didnt allow them to get away with this. I understand that most people dont want to go through the trouble of hiring a lawyer and appearing in court but if you dont you re essentialy enabling it.

>>130930304
>not level 4

>>130930611
It literally says Level IV.

Ooohhhhh ok yeah. See leaf that's a roman numeral 4. Yeah...

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>>130930304
Level III is for pussies! I wear tactical yellow book pages for safety.

>>130913617
My man... If there's one thing I'm not gonna cheap out on and trust the chinks with it's probably a vest designed to prevent bullets entering my body.

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>he doesn't have nanotech armour under his skin

lmao

>>130913250
I have a plate carrier with 6 mag pouches, drop pouch, all kinds of other sheeeeit.

Fuck places that only want cops to have them.

>>130913529
Can we buy stab proof armour?

>>130930611
>>130930893
I can't tell if they are trolling or if they are so retarded they think IV is 3 and I typed two of the three lines crooked.

This must have been a meme that I missed.

>>130931280
Stab-proof armor is a bitch to wear. The plates are usually hard plastic instead of kevlar which is flexible. You can't wear it under a shirt without looking retarded.

>>130931553
That fucking sucks.

>>130913250

-- Hoodie in 2017.

Nigger please. No more. be a man.

>>130915257
Yeah those knife vests don't work.
Source: Westminster Terror attack.

better off buying modern chainmail.

>>130916516
>implying most crimes are done with legally acquired guns

>>130919477
The latter sounds pretty fucking rad desu.

>>130919702
>Learned the difference between races

Story time pls, ameribro

>>130932171
t. fedora lord

>>130932252
It doesn't matter what the fuck you're wearing on your torso when muhammed stabs you in the face.

>>130913529
>Yeah, thats right, body armor is fucking illegal.
You could hurt someone.

>they shoot you
>bullet rebounds and hits them

Only nazis defend themselves m8

>>130932252
RIVETED

>>130913250
is it illegal to wear a vest in Poland?

I have an idea. Be a man, handle your problems. Keep your family safe. and stop worrying about how tough you look.

>>130933912

>what's the best concealed armour?
>keep safe and don't try to look tough

?????????

So bulletproof vests are illegal in some countries? Lemme guess the argument for that, so somebody who goes on shooting spree wouldn't have an advance not dropping quick. Am I correct? That's even more retarded than the anti-gun argument. First you remove guns so only the baddies have guns and now you remove vests so only the baddies have vests.

>>130916107
i know you can hear me anon


meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow

That's not gonna stop an AK bullet.

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>>130921501
>cops can't fucking aim

Just shoot the legs you retards. Also, body armor doesn't protect against tasers, flashbangs, tear gas and so many more tools that law enforcement officers are supposed to have, so I don't see what the problem is.

>>130913250
Just tell them you are a aspiring rapper

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Get level III+ steel plates just in case they're firing rifle rounds that go faster than 3000 fps

Always good to be prepared

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>>130919142
they should have had rifles to begin with, one of the first officers on the scene (white guy w/ shotgun, effeminate mexican, woman) tried using a shotgun with some weak ass bullshit buckshot on one of the two shooters--striking him in the low back, pissing him off.

All pellets stopped by soft armor, the two men then opened fire in earnest at the police.

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>>130919477
>nda but there is actual research about midway through

>>130937677
rifle > shotgun > handgun

handgun and shotgun are about equals though

>>130913529
Wouldn't want you surviving getting shot or stabbed while causing no additional harm to others now would we?

>>130913250
If (not in the army || police){
get out in a vest :
die a virgin.
}

>>130937677
That whole shootout was staged. They had no real escape plan.they killed noone. 1 guy didn't even cover his arms or legs and still did t get shot. There were dozens of camera angles set up in advance

>>130917092
No it looks more like soemthing a supervillain would buy.

>>130913490

Bulletproof vests, body armor should be legal nationwide.

If you take public transportation, work retail, or live in a bad neighborhood... you should get body armor.

>>130914816
Just depends on how sharp it his, how hard the blade is and how much force is applied

>>130938699
You shouldn't get it for free, but it should be available to you for whatever reason you decide you should own it

>>130913250
Here we can wear a suit of armour in public legally. The gauntlets would probably count as a weapon though.

>>130913250
>no MOLLE
You motherfucking pleb

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>>130935573
what did he mean by this?

completely legal here, comfy

>>130939611
But I thought you banned all the weapons?

>>130913250
>Poland

Probably not.