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Armenia Haplogroup R1b

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wtf Armenians ARE white??
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>>130898221
Open a history book and youll see that Turkey stole all that land.
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>>130898221
Latvia confirmed as true Balts, Lithuanians BTFO
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>>130898221
Never have been

Russian and other European nationalists want to remove them for a reason
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>>130901130
Latvia's the one between Lithuania and Estonia
if anything it explains why the other's can't into hockey
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>>130898221
Albania and Bulgaria are north africans?
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>>130898221
>have no balkan heritage whatsoever
>be I2
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>>130898221
iran at r1a represent
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wtf are latvian slavic?
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>>130898221
>wtf Armenians ARE white??
Haplotype isn't race.
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>>130906834
armenians literally are white though. and in the same vein so are turks and iranians (well persians, there are some nonwhite iranians since thats a nationality and there are some arabs in the south)
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>>130906964
>so are turks

'turk' is a meme race. they're just a mixture of whites and arabs. originally, turks were were caucasian, but most people in present day turkey have no white in them
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>>130898221
>Armenians ARE white
have you even seen armenian before?
that nigger are darker than are fuckign turk.
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>>130906964
>literally are white though. and in the same vein so are turks and iranians
West Asians are not White. White = European
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>>130898221
Told you we are not balkan
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>>130907639
have you even been to turkey it's literally a country of hairy caucasians with more tan than europeans on average turks armenians and persians are all genetically related. and there is also very little arab admixture in turks. it's mostly indo-iranian, people of the caucuses, and greeks/other mediterraneans.

desu if you saw a turk or iranian you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from the average greek or spaniard

i know i know
>shitskin detected lmao XD

but legit i've been to these countries and it's striking you realize that they are basically the same as europeans just a little tanner and with (generally) dark hair and eyes.

>>130908133
(((race))) is a meme the different ethnic groups are not but it's pretty hard to draw connections between totally different people with different blood. where is the line drawn?

is pic related "white"? yes? why? because he's pale? that doesn't mean shit. if you stay indoors and moisturize you can look pale. if a white girl goes to a tanning salon is she no longer white? are spaniards white even though they are tan with dark features but people of west asia aren't? it's a totally arbitrary definition.
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>>130901130
Balts were always N haplogroup. Latvians just got
a chunk of they're population replaced with ivans,but still they're balts
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>>130908419
>>130908133
furthermore people of west asia have genetic ties with people of europe as well. genes that are unique to this family of people. they are not asians or blacks and are very closely related to europeans so to exclude these two people based on GEOGRAPHY makes no sense.
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>>130908133
What do you make of Alexander Dugin arguing that Russians aren't technically white?
It's as if he's seeing (((Progressives))) attacking white European civilization, and is throwing western euros under the bus, distancing Russia from us and asserting a Eurasian identity.
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>>130908435

R1a - Aryan master race. BTFO, you mongoloid fucking shit. Indo-European haplogroup.
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>>130908912
>Thinks R1a is better than R1b or I1
lol what a loser.
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>>130908597
Some Jews are partially European. Partially. They are not White
>>130908419
Typical non-Euro gone race denial. Russian nationalists want to deport you, Swedish, German, Latvian, Czech. Fucking safe to say YOU ARE NOT WHITE
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Latvians and lithuanians are pretty much the same people, so no, we are not slavic
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>>130909059
meant for
>>130906734
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>>130908435
Lithuanians should have stayed with Russia, they are making to much problems.
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>>130909047
there's essentially nothing separating europeans and non european caucasian. they share physical characteristics for example pic related has blue eyes. no other race on earth but caucasians have non-brown eyes and non-black hair and those genes and phenotypes are spread across europe and the middle east.
>Russian nationalists want to deport you,
who the fuck am "I"? bish u don KNOW me?

whatever, i'm not gonna change your mind over a portuguese nude windsailing forum I'll just leave it to you to fall in love with a middle eastern girl and be shocked when she is revealed to be so.
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Something I have never understood, is the Hungarians.

I mean, are they even Magyar anymore in anything but language?

All this chatter about Pan-Turanism, but I've never seen anything on genetics that showed them as being anything close to genetically distinct from their (mainly Slavic) neighbours.

So what's the verdict. Are Hungarians just Slavs who speak a funny language?
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>>130898221
No, they're somewhat between turks and jews.
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>>130909001

A is always better than B
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>>130909495
Bullshit.

What mtDNA haplogroup are you?
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>>130909359
>there's essentially nothing separating europeans and non european caucasian.
Except, like, everything
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>>130898221

if being R1b makes you white then a lot of people in africa are now white.
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>>130909652
Doesn't matter. No nig/semite admixed, closely related all- Russians, Latvians, English, Scottish
>>130909495
>>130909652
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>>130906590

I is an ancient euopean haplogroup. most hunter gatherers had it before anatolian farmers came and mixed with in the neolithic. R1a and R1b probably came later in the bronze age from the steppe.
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>>130909744
I have Russian in me, but none along haplogroup lines.
My maternal grandfather's mtDNA was from his Russian line, U5a.
My own mtDNA was from my German line, also U5a.
My maternal grandfather's y-DNA was from his German line, R1b (DF27).
My y-DNA was from my Scottish line, R1b (L21).
The mtDNA in my Scottish family is T1 and T2 depending on who's tested.

There is a lot of difference in Europeans, but it pales when compared to the difference between Europeans and other Eurasians. That in turn pales when all Eurasians are compared to Australids. That in turn pales when non-Africans are compared to sub-Saharan Africans.
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they were white and some still are but a lot of them look arab because of the breeding with mudslimes since they're surrounded by muslim countries
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>>130906964

>iranians
>white

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/
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>>130898221
If they are, kayaks will want them gone. So, they probably are.
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>>130910072
>Christianity

>There is a lot of difference in Europeans, but it pales when compared to the difference between Europeans and other Eurasians. That in turn pales when all Eurasians are compared to Australids. That in turn pales when non-Africans are compared to sub-Saharan Africans.
Exactly and when taking Celtic-Germanics and Northeastern Europeans there is practically no difference
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>>130910117
I HATE Genographic for one very simple reason.
They call the Ancient North Eurasian component of Indo-European heritage, "South Asian".
It is abominably disingenuous and reported that way with the sole aim to make Europeans look less white.
Ancient North Eurasian heritage is shared by Europeans, Indo-Iranians, and even Siberians and Amerindians.
However, Ancient North Eurasian cropped up as a population cluster derived from Western Hunter Gatherer - ie it is more EUROPEAN than anything by that merit.
What is hilarious, is that testing for Genographic and family tree DNA are done by the same company. Genographic is headed by a white guy, ftDNA by a Jew, and yet ftDNA's equivalent ancientOrigins tool doesn't actually lie about our European heritage, while Genographic does!

Spencer Wells is a "We're All Africans" loser, even though he looks Aryan as fuck. Props to Bennett Greenspan for not being more of a dirty kike than he could be.
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>Both Parents from Poland
>dads is I-L22
>moms is U8a1
>get this
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this girl is literally armenian
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>>130910496
pale West Asian. Cool!
>>130910450
(((Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth))) not even once
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>>130910450
Oh that's tough.
I don't really give a shit about such a small percentage of East Asian, but it's a real shame about the 0.2% Middle Eastern and 0.2% Jew.

It honestly serves Poland right for being such fucking suck-ups to its Jewish communities for so long.
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Is G white /pol/?
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>>130909445

they are like mostly descended from ancient balkan people. they dont have much asiatic admixture even though they speak their language.
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>>130910561
isn't russia considered eurasian, too? it's certainly not strictly european. and is it true a lot of russian women marry armenian men?
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>>130910597
Jew = part nigger
Often explain why "Poles" rock that Der Untermensch look
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>>130910793
Gonna give to overall unpleasant Armenians and overall degenerate Russians people do stay to themselves
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>>130910117
>>130910404
Holy shit, I didn't realise Genographic had updated their population clusters... and are now literally reporting Jewish Diaspora wherever they can.

Fuck Genographic. Their sole aim as a company is to try and tear down any notion of ethnicity existing, even if it means lying through their teeth.

Never test with them. Even companies run by literal kikes are more honest than them.

>>130910649
Eh... It's technically more West Asian than European.

>>130910793
I asked about this earlier, but more from a cultural perspective a la Dugin.

But remember, Russia is fucking big, and there is plenty of room for different ethnic groups to self segregate. North Caucasus are a fucking shit-hole, and aside from that, anything west of the Urals gets non-white quick, apart from a few stragglers left behind in old commie outposts.
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can i into mongolian khanate?
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>>130908419
fine i phrased wrong
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>>130910859
On the subject of people being part nigger, something that bothers me about Varg is how he claims dark hair and eyes are signs of nigger admixture.

They're not. They're signs of admixture of the Early Neolithic Farmer branch from basal Eurasian - the true European branches being West Eurasian Hunter Gatherer, and Ancient North Eurasian.

Vikernes doesn't seem to understand how there could be non-European populations with dark hair and eyes who are just as genetically distant from sub-Saharans as Nordic Europeans are.

And honestly, arguing that non-Nordic features, even in Europeans, can only be the results of nig admixture is the sort of talk that works right into the hands of those (((people))) who want to tear down notions of European ethnic purity.
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>>130898221
delete this
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>>130910404
>They call the Ancient North Eurasian component of Indo-European heritage, "South Asian".

that cant be right because them an english man (who are on average 10 to 15% ane) would be 15% south asian but theyre not. i thought "south asian" was a mix of ancient north indian and ancient south indian?
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>>130911098
>Varg is how he claims dark hair and eyes are signs of nigger admixture.
It's not necessarily, but sure it is common with those nig tainted "European inhabitants". Plenty of quadroons and other filth have blonde hair and blue eyes. Like that mongrel Boris Johnson

Bloodline purity > color set up

Pic related - 100% Northwestern European
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>>130910793
the Russian nation is Eurasian
the Russian ethnicity was established long before the Kievan Rus ventured outside the European continent
they are ethnically euro, even ones living out on Kamchatka
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>>130911098
Me - 100% Northwestern European, dark hair, dark deep ocean blue eyes
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>>130911217
AHAHAHAHA btfo

>>130911244
>Bloodline purity > color set up

absolutely. I still don't like brown eyes though. I just don't. but mine are really fucking pale steel grey

>>130911312
oh shit it's you, that Russian-poster in heritage threads who always says he's not Slav but Celto-Germanic, and you still haven't explained to me how you are.
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>tfw only sweden and denmark are really white
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>>130911098

>the true European branches being West Eurasian Hunter Gatherer

master race reporting in, feels good.
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>>130898221
No human is just based on one haplogroup, since that would mean you are identical to that 6000 year old human where they first extracted that haplogroup.
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>>130911098
varg. why do people here even care what he has to say when he's a troubled youth black metal degenerate who has spent about 1/4 of his life in prison
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>>130911636
Because he has such spirit and passion, and he is correct about some things. It's just funny how blatantly false he is at other times.

>>130911424
I always wonder what it'd be like if we didn't have Early Neolithic Farmer component in Europe, and we were just WHG and ANE.
That would be glorious.
I have one of the highest ANE components in my family, at 19%. I wish it were more.
Sometimes I'm convinced the ANE were the mythic Hyperborean race.
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>>130898221
>R1b
>white
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>>130910450

(((23andme))) gave me 0.1% ashkenazi and 0.1% north african. i didnt get any on acestry.com or genographic 2.0. i did get 1% central asian on ancestry.com. neither of my parents had any north african on 23andme so i think its a mistake.
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>>130911375
>and you still haven't explained to me how you are.
I'd prefer to not mention it lately unless necessary, because it starts a literal shitfest.
>not liking brown eyes on actual Europeans
Good for me! The more the better
>>130911636
He lives by what he preaches to say the least. He's prepped to slay the invaders
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>>130911817
KYS faggot.

>>130911849
Statistical noise. Don't worry about it.
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>>130911887
R1b shitskin detected!! HAHAHAHA STAY MAD LIL DU
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>>130911878
>not liking brown eyes on actual Europeans
they just look weird. i mean, at the end of the day i'd rather a brown eyed European than a blue eyed Pashtun, but i'd still rather a blue eyed European than a brown eyed one.
I'm not as bothered about hair colour though. I carry blonde genes from my mother and was actually blonde for the first year or two of my life, but it gradually darkened and is now practically black.

It's a pity you don't want to mention why you're a Celto-Germanic in Russia. I mean come on this thread is slow enough you could probably get away with it. I'll just ask you in the next thread I see you anyway, if you don't.
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>>130910859

no better way to say "im a scumbag" than getting a tattoo on your neck.
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>>130898221
we took care of brown ones. you welcome.
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>>130911992
>t. haplogroup E
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>>130912162
We are the real whites, you wet dog smelling and fucking shitskins wuz in caves when we wuz conquering halfway into yo continent.
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>>130912076
>i'd rather a brown eyed European than a blue eyed Pashtun
Exactly. Nordicists mongs need to get it. I do have a big thing for brown eyed/brown hair on clean Euros, which is actually common on your islands.
>mention why you're a Celto-Germanic in Russia
Almost half a mil of NWEs here and I personally do some transactions with money, which can't be done elsewhere in Europe. I do enjoy nature + vast personal free/do-fuck-all thing. You know it's pretty easy, when you don't get involved in the Russian politics
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>>130910907

>and are now literally reporting Jewish Diaspora wherever they can

yeah i was a bit suspicious seeing british as on average 2% jewish. i guess it takes just a hand full of people who are 100% jewish calling themselves "british" to skew the results.

my results didnt seem accurate either. im half english and irish, a quarter ukrainian and a quarter french and my results came back 40% Western and Central Europe, 36% Eastern Europe, 12% Great Britain and Ireland and 11% Scandinavia. too much eatern euro and not even any south european. dosent seem to add up.
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>>130912159
Based Greece
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>>130912534
I'm currently waiting on my LivingDNA results to come back, but even after that they're likely to update as they add more samples to their reference population database (they're trying to catalog old Germans before they go extinct lol).

I've got high hopes for LivingDNA to be the next best one to test, especially since 23andme are dodgy as fuck, and ftDNA is geared more towards anoraks than one-time testers.

But yeah. Genographic is trash tier. In all honesty I only took it because it allowed me to get SNP haplogroup backbone testing and then transfer to ftDNA for autosomal. If ftDNA had SNP backbone haplogroup testing as standard, instead of offering all the modular STR shit (which really pisses me off), I'd appreciate that. Even then, and even with the recent update, their autosomal admixture model is still not as good as other companies.
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>>130912696
It amazes me how much the Greeks and Anatolians hate each other, and how long they have hated each other, given that they're basically both the same thing. Swarthy pelasgians.
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>>130912696
Religion > racial hygiene: the country
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>>130911098

indo-europeans had mostly dark hair and eyes too. they spread supposedly "aryan" R1a.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_culture#Physical_characteristics
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Amrenians are Aryan in origin, and not in the NatSoc understanding of the word.
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>>130912793
t. swarthy """""Anglo-Saxon"""""
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>>130898221
Why are Nordics and South Slavs so superior to any other race on the planet??
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>>130906590
L1 and L2 is a hologroup of the original Europeans that survived the Ice Age in Europe.
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How much mongoloid DNA is in Slavs? Links?
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>>130913336
None. It's Finnic
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707000250

The American Journal of Human Genetics (Volume 82, Issue 1, 10 January 2008, p. 236-250)
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Also why else do you think the Ottomans tried to wipe out the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, etc.?

Pro fucking tip: go to the "Young Turks" wiki page and ctrl+F "Jew"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Turks
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>>130913069
>Tfw when you are 176 cm tall

Just fucking end me
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>>130913467
Fucking untermensch
Maybe you're still growing though, i had many mates that started growing at like 17
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>>130912741

what about ancestry.com?
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>>130912921
based off a small handful of archaeological digs with viable dna to sequence.

when ENF were dark complexion, and WHG were also supposedly dark as well apart from eyes, how do you explain the origin of blonde hair?

even if there were dark haired indo-europeans, they must have carried blonde genes which were selected for following their adoption of neolithic farming.

>>130913336
pic related.

keep in mind that the vast majority of white russians don't live in the more eastern, mongoloid-admixture-heavy regions.

my grandfather was 1/4 russian and maybe about 2% east asian admixture depending on which autosomal test you go by. on some, no such admixture is shown and is likely just folded into his slavic percentage.

>>130913547
i have no experience with them. however from what i've seen, their autosomal admixture reporting is pretty good for what it is. my main problem with them is that they don't do haplogroups afaik, which is again a fairly big put-off for me in trying to find a company i can recommend for one-off testing.
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>>130909687
Why are we so close to hungarians ?
I know they had french kings but it's still weird they are close to western europeans than their slav neighbors.
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>>130913669
WE WUZ KHANZ N SHIEEET
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haplotype only shows MALE ancestry PERCENTAGE. It has nothing to do with race.

Stop posting these retarded maps you dumb niggers.
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>>130910597
when it comes to such low percenteges couldn't it mean the other way around ? like if a lot of poles mixed with jews
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>>130912696
dont care about race shit. meds are more handsome than northerners and sl*vs.
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>>130913946

you can't say WHEN people mixed with haplotypes.

It works like this: you define something as reference, and then you emasure others against it. You only see the DIFFERENCE. You can't say anything else.


DNA measurements are completely useless in giving any clue about race actually, yo ucould be 100% R1a and half nigger as an extreme exammple.

>>130914033

no , nordics are the pinnacle of humanity
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>>130913819
autosomal recombination is blocky as fuck.
my mum has a 1% readout, i have a <0.1% readout, ie the chunks of east asian dna in me are so small, it is more a matter of there being a 50% chance in each successive generation that the admixture would be entirely lost.
pic related is my 23andme chromosome painting.

>>130913874
haplotypes don't even show percentage, given they don't even recombine. they're still interesting nonetheless.

>>130913946
yeah, that's entirely possible.

>>130914033
pfft you wish.
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>>130914033
>meds are more handsome than northerners and sl*vs.
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>>130914104
you do realise that within this thread, we have also discussed autosomal DNA?

this isn't just a haplogroup thread.
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>>130914033
>t. jealous subhuman
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>>130914110
short, dark, handsome m8
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>>130908775

Well someone should tell Mr Dugin that it doesn't work. They attack you anyway for looking white even if you can prove Mongoloid admixture.

t. true Eurasian
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>>130914110
How much did you pay to get that feature?
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>>130913069
delete this
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>>130908419
>desu if you saw a turk or iranian you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from the average greek or spaniard
You're crazy if you think that any european look the same as an iranian or turk. Just look at any genetic map and see how far these population are too each other.
I'm from Spain and I've been to Turkey and they couldn't be more different from us. They are your regular hairy sandnigger. Iranians are even more paki looking, you can't even compare turks with iranians as if they were the same.
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>>130914143

Same issue applies .

ancestry doesn't tell you anything about your race, race is a product of the GREEDINESS of your SELECTION that happened REPEATEDLY
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>>130913742
>Why are we so close to hungarians ?

maybe a lot of modern hungarians are descended from germans who a genetically similar to the french.
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>>130914172
lmao what are you on about. it's always been part of 23andme. in the updated experience (they finally updated my account after 1 and a half years), you just scroll down the page from the map bit, and it's there.

in the old experience...
here look, this is the only pre-transition screenshot i have of my 23andme.
you see the box with "Map View" in it? click on that and select "Chromosome Painting" or w/e and it'll change to the chromosome painting.

>>130914265
dude you're not making any fucking sense right now.
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>>130914347
Alright, cheers mate
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>>130906590
Might be Sardinian or Ukrainian.
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>>130913742
Because both of you are intermediate between northern and southern Europe. It has nothing to so with ancient kings or whatever.
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>>130914347

you just have no clue about biology and how geneticists generally work

it's nothing complicated, and you are getting jewed heavily out of your money by doing these stupid tests


i'll repeat it again: DNA tests don't show anything about your race, only HOW MUCH people mixed with others (also doesn't give you at what times that mixing happened) ; so your ancestors could have been raped 2000 years ago, and then again 1000 years later , and the difference COULD be the same as soembody who was raped 2 times shortly after one another in the same century
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>>130914160
I'm tall and the best combination of light and dark features, so basically you're blown the fuck out.
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>>130913874

>haplotype only shows MALE ancestry PERCENTAGE. It has nothing to do with race.

yeah a lot of african americans have a european y haplogroup because their fathers fathers father raped a slave but they are not "white".
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>>130914512

post a picture of your side profile and frontal view, if you are so confident about your racial make up
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>>130913069
>tfw 6'2
>tfw this is barely above manlet tier

hehe made it guys :^)
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I'm white
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>>130913669
You went with the wrong map though. Post peer reviewed science not some dotecad bullshit financed by ever increasingly failing anti-European Union. Any (((EU))) institution is compromised. Especially genetic. Study can be custom made confirmation bias(with dotcad that is)
NEVER reply to "Eupedia" map with anything but
-pointing out how supposed admixture lies exactly in modern Czech borders
-how EU denies concept of the native Europeans by its constitution
-pointing out that study is done with less than 100 samples
-pointing out EU founder Richard Kalergi

Hint: mongols or turkics ARE NOT East Eurasian
Hint: Scandinavia never dealt with mongols (nor mongols ever LIVED anywhere in Europe)
Hint: Czechs are genetically similar to Austrian and Bavarians, yet that picture shows what it shows
>>130914617
Russian diaspora?
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>>130914560
Splendid analys, Toniblerim Cuckvapao
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>>130913069
scandinavian concubines are confirmed.
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>>130914033

maybe if it wasnt for the hook noses, eyebags and hairy shoulders.
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>>130914644

> he's guessing about genetic mixtures based on historical "facts"

why are slavs so afraid to face the racial reality?
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>>130914644
>Russian diaspora?

No. Кopeннoй гpyзин. I'm so white i literally get burnt on the sun.

It really depends, my sister is not as white as i am for example.
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>>130914474
I know how genetics work, as well as its limitations. I've never taken a DNA test and have it affect my perception of my own identity, I'm just curious as to how they portray me.

>>130914560
oh god you're one of those people who thinks genetic testing can't tell you jack shit whilst simply looking at someone can.

both have their merits and limitations, but okay, i'll fucking entertain you, just lemme format the pics. my hair is longer now so i'll post old pics where i had short hair so you can more easily see skull shape.

>>130914704
jesus christ you sound like a retard. lemme guess, you're albanian...
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>>130911771
ANE is part mongol didn't you know that?
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>>130898221
Where the fuck did you get this ?

Looks like a cheap paint brushed europe
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>>130914750
You are West Asian, not European though. Why so many people confuse paleness and fairness with Europeandom?
>>130914704
A - no Slav
B - I prefer to be objective
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>>130914798
wrong. Mongols are part ANE, get it right.
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>>130908419
>desu if you saw a turk or iranian you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from the average greek or spaniard
>"I'm an expert, trust me!"

The hell are you talking about. Aegean/European Turks and Greeks and Eastern Turks/Kurds and Persians maybe. Greek, Spaniards and Persians though? They look nothing alike.

Persians have hooked noses and are quite shorter than Greeks. Spaniards have more refined jaws, narrower skulls and are darker/yellower than Greeks, who tend to be have a redder tint of brown. Turks can look like essentially anything, since they don't have much of an ethnic basis. They look like Greeks to the west and Persians to the east because of the underlying stock population.
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>>130914785

1. nop , not an albo or a slav 2. I taught mathematics to geneticists at a top 10 world wide uni so I know the limitations of them very well


As I said, if you have balls, and are confident about your race, don't hide behind random numbers. show us your frontal and side profile. Let us see how well your ancestors selected.
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>>130914871
>You are West Asian, not European though

I don't give a shit about those categories you use. My fellow countrymen are mostly pale skinned and look "white", not as white as Russians or Scandinavians, but not black for sure.

Even majority of turkroaches are not black. I'd say Armenians are black compared to Turks.


Turks/Georgians > Armenians > Azeris in whiteness here IMO
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>>130914871

not really, you are just guessing , and you are not even disclosing that you are guessing, what you are doing is trying to make people believe that your random numbers (DNA percentages of whatever kind combined with historical "facts") have any meaning , when in reality they show only one thing:

the amount of MIXTURE that happened.

They DON'T show WHEN it happened. They don't show WHAT was selected (height, strenght, intelligence etc.) . They also don't show WHAT race was selected for.

That's just all guessing from your side. So not objective and definitely not scientific work.
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By Turks i mean those who are close to Georgia and often come here, not sure if there are blacker Turks in central Turkey somewhere, but those bordering our country are certainly "white" looking.

i've never been to Turkey to compare if central Turks are blacker
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>>130914948
>show us your frontal and side profile.
I look like HC Strache to give you the idea
>>130915008
"Whiteness". You use fairness, not European genetic family.
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>>130914948
front pic
unsee cc/torimuna/
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>>130913069
How can westcucks and eastshits even compete?
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>>130898221
time for you to take the aryan pill

(armenians mixed with the locals too much, they're like 60-70%+ arab
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>>130914948
>>130915136
added side pic to same link
it's on a 10 minute timer so don't delay
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>>130915134
>not European genetic family.

Nice, German women are literally untermensch, even Georgian and Armenian shitty women are better.

Most Gayropeans suck anyway so i dont give a fuck
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>>130915158
By not getting their 'ethnic homeland' split in three over the sectarian division
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>>130915261
German women with all their faults seldom ethnically mix and make surprisingly good mothers
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>>130898221
Look on what language do their speak, dumbass.
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>>130915244
>mixed
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>>130915276
Touche.
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>>130915337
What are you talking about m8, They come here every summer are the most cock-hungry by far. Not even the Swedes come close.

Not that I'n complaining.
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>>130909001
>An Average R1b population
cucked, degenerate, multicultural
>An Average R1a population
based, traditional, homogenous
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>>130915136

north-atlantid + alpinid - if you are very young 16-20 then it might be less alpinid, if you are over 20 then it's definitely higher percentage of alpinid

definitely above UK average , but too much neoteny to be progressive-mature (maybe that will reduce if you become older) , if you are below 1.85 m, then you are more alpinid (reduced cromagnoid) , if you are above 1.85 m , then you are a mix of unreduced cromagnoid + north atlantid ("better racially")

Can't say i'm a fan of your hair cut though , looks trashy .
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>>130915276
hey fuck you :^)
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>>130898221
someone explain l2 please
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>>130915480
and that includes the descendants of Czech and Polish ethnically German refugees
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>>130915337
my south german/swiss-german grandmother was the oldest of four daughters, and the only one who didn't race mix. her younger sisters, had kids with blacks and a jew.

>>130915507
as I said those pics are older pics, i was about 21 iirc in those pics.
alpinid, funnily enough, through my swiss heritage. i can trace any alpinid features by photographs all the way back to my swiss great great grandfather.

also 190cm tall and WAIS-IV measured FSIQ of 124.

haven't had that hairstyle in years dude. i got it because it's literally the most comfy hairstyle for wearing a helmet over.
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>>130915337

Should i visit Germany and fuck German Frau? hoping to find not ugly one

I have visa free travel now as true European overlord master deserves
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>>130915586
Literally fucking cavemen, got first into europe and later got A R Y A N E D by R1 peoples.
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>>130913467
>tfw 20cm's taller than you are
>tfw still shorter than my brother

Tbh at some point you're just too tall, 185cm's to 191 cm's is the best height.
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>>130915665
>her younger sisters, had kids with blacks and a jew.
Why those ''people'' are alive, Nigel?
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>>130915618
Yeah, I don't know who they marry nor do I care.
But if the study that DNA of all previous partners stays in the womb is true, you're gonna have some very Greek looking Germans is all I'm saying.
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>>130915158

hunter gatherers who originally had haplogroup I got cucked by anatolian farmers in the neolithic. you, as a serb, are mostly descended from the anatolian farmers and just retained the paternal y haplogroup. northern europeans have the most hunter gatherer blood. see pic related:>>130911424
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>>130914877
Both statments are true. Look at the position of ANE in a global genetic plot and you'll see how it is halfway between europeans and asians (a bit close to euros though). No wonder it is found in Siberia.
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>>130915244
this
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>>130915732
I honestly don't know. I can forgive only one of them, because her sons are pretty chill and to be fair she did actually try and settle in africa before the biafran war kicked off and got her husband killed... the other two i don't want anything to do with.
>Nigel
>>130913024
Okay let's settle this, I'm not Anglo-Saxon.
See: >>130910072

>>130915507
Pic related is my Swiss great great grandfather. It is from this man that my grandmother got her distinctly alpinid looks (might post a pic of her after this)
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>>130912159
I'll never forgive you for not killing the Kardashian's ancestors while you had the chance.
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>>130915684
Hilarious way to present your own genetics as inferior. Those who have a potential to mix are not worthy of proper social circles to begin with. Eugenic way to cancel out the inferior bloodlines, if you will
>Georgia
>getting to Switzerland
>>130915755
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3337243/Teenage-prostitutes-selling-sex-price-sandwich-Greece-s-crippling-recession-pushes-prices-time-low.html
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/greek-prostitutes-sell-sex-little-price-sandwich-1530949
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-22/greek-prostitution-soars-150-youth-unempoyment-hits-75-some-areas
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/young-greek-women-selling-sex-for-the-price-of-a-sandwich-new-study-shows/2015/11/27/c469695e-94d9-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html

brb making my sandwiches on the way to Athens to Germanize the greasypussies
>>130915911
t. we wuz European
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>>130915960
Always archive

>https://washingtonpost com/world/young-greek-women-selling-sex-for-the-price-of-a-sandwich-new-study-shows/2015/11/27/c469695e-94d9-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html
https://archive.is/cPrAy
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>>130915945
You must kill them or drive them away from Europe. It's a matter of family honour
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>>130915718
Nah dude, 195cm is the best height
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>>130915911
In which ways is this different than the Indo- European migration? Why do you call it Aryan?
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>>130898221
WE WUZ SHAKA ZULU
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>>130916045
>not knowing that the indo euros called themselves Aryans
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>>130915008
> Turks/Georgians
back there you go you filthy roach sympathizer
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>>130913534

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ctOfRy3qyE
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>>130911424
WHG were literal cucks

Yamnaya/Steppe admixture shows who is the real Ubermensch.
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>>130916098

I'm not roach lover but it's fact that roaches are whiter than Armenians, don't you see it?

Every single Armenian i have met in my life was dark as fuck, while Turks look like typical white dudes if we look at skin color.
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>>130915665
How did european womem mix with jews and specially blacks in like what the fifties last century?
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>>130916135
forgot map
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>>130915960
>Russian
>Germanize

Dude the Albanian prostitutes and the Gypsies will give you their ass for a bottle of water. This is nothing new.

Now go find a Greek woman to do the same and then we'll talk.

I would love to able to fuck Greek chicks for a sandwich trust me.

Now go do some Crocodil, I see you still have fingers to type with.
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>>130915886
you're forgetting which direction time flows in.
the ANE population cluster arose from the WHG population cluster, ie its origins were European. It then diverged in two separate ways - one mixed into siberians and subsequently amerindians, the other folded back into the European cluster. that is why it is continuous throughout these groups. it doesn't mean they themselves were part asian. it means asians were part them.

you fucking tard.

>>130916021
most of them are in america. including the jew-tainted ones.

>>130916154
>be post-wwii
>be brainwashed into guilt
>literally move to africa or the americas

>>130915507
fuck it, couldn't find the pic of my grandmother i was after.
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>>130916065
>believing that muslims don't rape when they conquer
oh sweety
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>>130913069
So we are neanderthals ?
That explains everything
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>>130916154
It's as common as coprophilia, which is essentially the same. If to blame anyone for mixing it's the European men: ethnic mixing, racemixing and other filth is way more common with them
>>130916259
That is your former family. Why letting them get away with it?
>>130916238
Those are ethnically Greek natives. Read the article and get familiar with your own nation'a problems
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>Russian mongoloids discussing race purity ITT

Russians are ugly distrophic fucks
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>>130915911
No in school we learned about Indo-European migrations because most Greek tribes were Indo-European.

I guess your flag ruined that? Because you start calling people Aryan and suddenly the Americans are invading you.
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>>130916130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysNRtFCIqvQ
>>130916311
kek
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>>130916151
>my personal anecdotal experience is an argument
whitness is a meme
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>>130916333
don't worry. my grandmother made up for their faults by having 6 white children. 5 of those children then had an additional 14 white kids. the other one married a jew and the two of them were immediately smitten by odin in a head-on collision with a lorry.
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>>130916296
Mate, learn your history, rape babies were killed with extreme prejudice by the families of the victim, sometimes the mother dying along with the rapebaby.

That was common practice on the Balkans.
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>>130916481
You know what some people like Chechens and Albos do? They slay bloodmixers
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>>130916449

Whatever you say, Karen.

>>130916564

I always wanted to fuck a Chechen chicks. Wat do?
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>>130913467
Emigrate from Balkans. And you will be average
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>>130916505
which explains why haplogroup E is so common in Bulgaria...

>>130916564
you've got to remember, all of this happened before i was even born.
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>>130915911

I'm sure a tribe living in Yamal peninsula had the population to invade half the world.
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>>130916607
Bang them in Moscow establishments near Kuznetsky bridge? Better yet, keep yourself to your own people
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>>130898221
Armenians are mountain Jews.
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>>130916182

how are the basques majority R1b if they have almost no steppe admixture?
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>>130916693
>not knowing about the land beyond the northern wind
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>>130916756
Because haplogroups are not everything? They have almost no IE mtDNA.
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>>130916259
You're quite right but the ANE that mixed back into europeans was already part asian.
Although ANE is majority west eurasian the type itself was created after mixing with some kind of archaic mongoloid. Notice how the europeans wirh no ANE (sardinians) are the ones further away from asians and the more ANE euros got the more the go into asian direction.
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>>130916505
Kek, we have a saying 'Prvi mačići se bacaju u vodu' which means 'the first kittens are thrown in the water/are drown'. It stems from the belief that when a Serb couple married the woman had to first sleep with the Turkish chief of the village, so they always killed the first child as to not give birth to a mongrel. Don't know how truthful these are, I have read on couple of occasions that these were mostly folk 'memories' used as propaganda to incite hatred against the Turks, which holds water because the Turks didn't miscegnate very often.
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>>130898221
Wtf are Armenians? Are they humans? What drives them? Do they actually exist?
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>>130916333
>Those are ethnically Greek natives. Read the article and get familiar with your own nation'a problems

What's the source for that? I travel the whole country, it's my job. What the article claims does not exist.

Who would fuck for a sandwich? Think about that.
It could be word of mouth shit. We have sayings like that, "I would fuck you for a sandwich right now", I can believe that being said as a jest, happening though? very hard.

Remember there where a lot of Slavic, Albanian etc. prostitutes in Greece that got released when their pimps stopped making money after the crisis. Maybe one of them?
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>>130910976

Only if you renounce your barbaric indo language
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>>130916607
I was also always attracted to Chechen chicks, mongol/turkic appearance with blue eyes/swathy blonde hair and skin.
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>>130916853
Balkanites literally colonized the Ottoman Empire. The majority of Turks are Georgian, Circassian, Armenian, Albanian and Croatian already. When was the last time you saw a horsefucking Turkic from there?
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>>130916641
Hence the official data I linked (you can google the full 500 page research paper) and not a random image without a source like the OP.

The OP image is bullshit.

>>130916853
Yeah. There was zero tolerance for rape babies. I wish /pol/ troll would learn this.
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>>130916819
>Although ANE is majority west eurasian the type itself was created after mixing with some kind of archaic mongoloid.
whilst I can accept that archaic admixture was part of what differentiated ANE from WHG, i don't accept that such a population as they admixed with could be considered "archaic mongolid" - the implication there still asserts that they were closer to asians than to europeans which they weren't. the archaic admixture was with a population neither mongolid nor europid.

> Notice how the europeans wirh no ANE (sardinians) are the ones further away from asians and the more ANE euros got the more the go into asian direction.
yeah, because higher ANE europeans share that affinity with asians who also have ANE. it doesn't make ANE of asian origin, simply because some of them subsequently mixed into asian populations thus increasing their affinity with ANE europeans.
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>>130916915
Europe has literally not a single state with the racial laws. I know, some facts are hard to accept. We were dealt with a shitty hand this century. In order to solve the problem, you must admit it exists
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>>130916988 (Checked)

Well, they did get Balkan'd. You can see it in their TV shows, most of their actors are white, and if you trace their heritage they're all Greek/Serb/Bulgarian or Albanian. Wondering what Anzu's heritage is.
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>>130916988
yes and no, the turks plundered their women but the haplogroup is on the y-chomosome so not for the purposes of the haplogroup map. The current royal family of turkey (osmanoglu) are white blonde hair + blue eyes because the sultan(s) liked his/their european women.
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>>130916853
Those are fabrication that got made to get the people to massacre the Turks.
They actually did not rape and rather married and Islamized many local girls.

It's like the Janissaries, they did not trust us not to rebel and kill them and would rather take young people and turn them into their own.
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>>130916815

is there a similar explanation as to why the english have less steppe admixture than the irish, scottish and welsh?
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>>130916065
DAS RITE
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>>130916853
interesting history lesson, I'm sure they would only throw the baby in the river if it was within 10 months of the marriage but that's one way to do it. However I worry that some women wouldn't want to give up their babies rape or not because muh feelies.
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>>130917213
Also, Turks really didn't have contact with the Serbs because we got pushed into the wilderness and the only ones who could live in the cities were converts and Turks.
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>>130917175
The Sultan was an Albanian by that time
>>130917119
Kurds and gypsies with Turkish passports are the biggest problem if we are being real
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>>130917337
when are gypsies not a problem, regardless of their passport?
hah
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>>130917119
don't forget anatolia was pretty white before they showed up
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>>130917402
I heard that most europeans won't censor their racism when talking about gypsies is this true?
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>>130917097
Dude i would not have the problem to accept it if I had the slightest idea it might have happened.
Maybe it happened once I don't know.

Take a sandwich, come to Greece and try all our prostitutes. I'll take a camera and follow you around if you want.

Is my country shit? Like you would not believe. You literally cannot understand how shit things are until you've lived here for a while.

But it's gonna be fun seeing us both get beaten by pimps in the end. And I mean beaten until our teeth fall off, because prostitutes hire some serious muscle.
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>>130917059
Asian ANE admixed groups go into the direction of europeans, like siberians and central asians and unlike east asians.
European ANE admixed group go into the direction of asians, unlile europeans without ANE like sardinians.
Was does this tell us? ANE was an admixed population composed maybe by 2/3 west eurasian and 1/3 east eurasian.
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>>130917300
Well, some women would certainly want to keep the child but I imagine that the family would object. Our women are suprisingly autistic about racial purity and preserving heritage, although they seem to like Dutch men for some reason, all Serb female/foreign male marriages are with a Dutch dude. Serbian men usually go for German or Hungarian chicks when marrying foreigners.

>>130917337
The royal family had heavy European admixture. Also, the ruling class was also European, for example we had a grand vizier.

Gypsies seem to be an everpresent problem, they're everywhere and give everyone a bad name when they take their passports and venture into the world.

>>130917444
Aye, a lot of Greeks there and whoever lived there before the Turks invaded.
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>>130916259
>>130917540
You mongs ANE came to Europe via Indo-Europeans in most cases with the exception of areas where EHG's where, EHG's can be modelled as 75% ANE. And Yamnyans/Corded Ware as half EHG at least and ANE population is most likely responsible for blondism.
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>>130917502
you know how it is with the wave of progressive political correctness in the past couple of generations, so more people see it as unacceptable.
however, it still exists, and it does so for these reasons:
1) we have native, or otherwise white, traveler communities as well. such as irish travelers in the british isles.
2) native traveler groups as well as romani gypsies are thus defined by their lifestyle rather than an ethnic categorization
3) that lifestyle involves trespass and essentially squatting on other peoples' land, petty theft, and littering
4) these are seen as bad things
ergo, by virtue of this decoupling from racial classification and association with an undesirable lifestyle, gyppos and pikeys are still liable to be at the receiving end of derision.

>>130917540
it's pointless arguing this with you, we're just going round in circles.
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>>130917676
interesting that it's dutch, the dinaric and dutch are the two tallest groups in the world
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>>130907909
Some Armenians are white as fuck.
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>>130916940
Make based Livonian into lingua franca desu
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>>130917119
anzu looks like northern slavs. probably circassian roots!
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>>130906964
>there are some nonwhite iranians
kek
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>>130910561
Armenians are nothing like Asians, wtf.

>Coming from a mongoloid Russian
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>>130917899
Could be, she doesn't look Balkanic. Her face is too round. We have sharp jagged faces.
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>>130917972
>>130917899
just need someone to steal some of her DNA, and maybe check the chromosomes to double check she's not a trap
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>>130907639

>Causcasian

Americans are so fucking predictable.

IF EVERYONE WITH ORIGINS IN THE CAUCUS MOUNTAINS IS WHITE, NO ONE IS WHITE.

I fucking hate Americans.
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>>130907909
>>130917806

I've seen armenians with white skin, brown hair, and blue/green eyes.
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>>130917402
When dravidan abo admixed Indians want to exterminate them, you know the shit is real
>>130917502
They are that subhuman. negroes, abos and gypsies are not even seen as humans in Switzerland and Austria, for example
>>130917962
Except they are, and being an Asian is not limited to being an Oriental>>130901191
>>130917806
PALE
>>130917757
Do you have any other race traitors in your family that are in Europe/Oceania?
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>>130918145
I've seen quadroons with blue eyes and blonde hair. I've seen 100% Celtic-Germanics with olive skin, brown hair and brown eyes.
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>>130917676
>Our women are suprisingly autistic about racial purity and preserving heritage, although they seem to like Dutch men for some reason, all Serb female/foreign male marriages are with a Dutch dude. Serbian men usually go for German or Hungarian chicks when marrying foreigners.
Disgusting. Recent euromutts must all fuck off to the US after we retake what is ours
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>>130918205
did you see their DNA test? The sun pretty much shines through a real celt
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>>130918164
One of my cousins married a Thai woman. Got on the wrong side of the law in his country (continental Europe, won't disclose further). His wife got fed up and left, taking their hapa kids back to Thailand. My cousin followed them, despite warnings from the authorities that if he didn't settle legal matters beforehand, he wouldn't be allowed back in the country. If he returns, they'll arrest him on sight.
So whatever. He's bleaching Thailand instead of ricing Europe.
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>>130918373
What the fuck is wrong with Britain and Anglosphere? Literally the biggest racemixing in Europe and elsewhere it's almost non-existent.
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>>130909001
You guys will argue about everything
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>>130918373
that's actually somewhat helpful, if you're not good enough for a european girl might aswell go for an asian (but move to asia)
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>>130918467
pure unadulterated propaganda from state funded television
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>>130918468
>tfw roman
WE WUZ EMPERORZ
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>>130917802
>interesting that it's dutch, the dinaric and dutch are the two tallest groups in the world

bullshit

The nations with the tallest men in 2014 (1914 ranking in brackets):

1. Netherlands (12)
2. Belgium (33)
3. Estonia (4)
4. Latvia (13)
5. Denmark (9)
6. Bosnia and Herzegovina (19)
7. Croatia (22)
8. Serbia (30)
9. Iceland (6)
10. Czech Republic (24)

The nations with the tallest women in 2014 (1914 ranking in brackets):

1. Latvia (28)
2. Netherlands (38)
3. Estonia (16)
4. Czech Republic (69)
5. Serbia (93)
6. Slovakia (26)
7. Denmark (11)
8. Lithuania (41)
9. Belarus (42)
10. Ukraine (43)

https://elifesciences.org/articles/13410
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>>130918205
I suppose my point is that most armenians I see appear to be white.
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>>130918467
I said continental Europe you dummy. Two of my mum's siblings raised their families in Europe, with European spouses.
Fine I'll tell you what that guy was. His dad was French, and his mum - my aunt - brought them up in Switzerland. He could probably return to France, since that's where he was born, but Switzerland is a no-go for him now unless he wants to do jail time.

>>130918474
I honestly wish the best for their family over there. Perhaps his son will do better as a hapa in SE Asia than he would over here (where he would potentially turn out like Elliott Rodger), or in NE Asia where they're xenophobic as fuck.
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>>130918580
fuck off nigger
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>>130918468
If you have a foot like the Greek one on the picture I don't want you in my country.

Who thinks of this shit.
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>>130918468
>Roman
>tfw Bono malum superate

Always wondered what relevance these things had.
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>>130918580
>tfw lanky mongolian genes, finally come out
This is what peak preformance looks like
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>>130918642

You have never seen shit, you retarded burger nigger.

The most exotic thing you've ever laid your eyes upon is a mestizo.

The only Armenian you have laid your eyes upon is Kim Kardashian and her shitskin family.
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>>130918468
>>130918468
I'm 3 but 0 greek heritage. Hmmm
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>>130918468
My foot shape isn't shown there.
My big toe and second toe are equal, like roman, and the other three slope down like egyptian or greek.
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>>130918644
hapas in asia are chick magnets and the women they date don't feel like the white version of coalburners
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>>130917757
>we're just going round in circles.
I see so let me show you this:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQZTh1cnJ1ZEFiSnM/view
As you can see a siberian huntergatherer population (west eurasian) mixed with some kind of east eurasian (here represented by onge) which created ANE. The proportions are around 60/40%.
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>>130918809
Last thing you must worry about is your foot shape, Nigel. All of my almost 60 close relatives that I know of and keep contact with all have mates of the same ethnicity
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>>130918809
actually mine is basically this, except second toe is a few mm longer than big toe. Is there a lost anglotribe?
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>>130918989
>Nigel
for the last fucking time stop calling me fucking Nigel, I'm not fucking English!
>>130910072
Look at my fucking family tree. Do you see an English fucking flag there?

Also at least all of the other cousins of mine who have married or had kids did so with white people. It's not all bad.
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>>130918752
lol. I'm Russian-Armenian.

No. Kim Kardashian is very dark in complexion compared to Armenians I know.

There are dark skinned Armenians like Kim, but they are from somewhere else than normal Armenians.
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>>130918989
Having big families is awesome.
>my great grandfather had 7 siblings
>they each had 5 kids on average
>my mother has 6 siblings
>all of them have around 5 children with my mother having only my brother and me

It's awesome when there's a celebration and there's like 100 people that are all your direct family and blood and look like you.
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>>130919177
>Is there a lost anglotribe?
>Anglotribe
see
>>130919182
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>>130919182
Deal, Angus
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>>130918752
>mestizo
Also, they'e just fucking Mexicans bro. No need to fancy up their name and make them seem like they're special.
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>>130919239
Oh nice, you actually picked one of my favourite names.
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>>130919187
Well, I haven't seen any Armenians, but if I take SOAD members as reference, they're white skinned but have really dark and bushy hair and their eyes are pitch black.
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>>130919182
what are you then, welsh?
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>>130919211
Hell fucking yes. That's what the Race is - Family. "It is right to be proud of your race and to want to preserve it, just as it is right to be proud of your family and to want to preserve it. Race exists just as much as family exists, and in much the same way. It is simply a wider form of relationship." Oswald Mosley
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>>130915755
Stop with that meme study. The sample was around 90 women that didn't give birth to a child nor had an abortion and only 6 women had traces of male DNA. The said they could not confirm if they had a vanished twin or a spontaneous miscarriage. They also stressed that other possibilities included blood transfusion and previous sex partners but further studies were needed to explore the question.
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>>130919360
derp nvm
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>>130919320
A lot of armenian girls look like Kylie Jenner when she was young (pre-fake tans).

A lot even have brown hair and light colored eyes.

I've met some dark-skinned Armenians (Kim Kardashian complexion) but they are so different from regular Armenians that I don't even understand them when they speak Armenian. They are originally from Iran.
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>>130919386
It's a shame that all across Europe people aren't having children, even here they're having two children max. In the West they don't have time because they have to indulge in hedonism, here they don't have money to afford a decent life for more than two children.
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>>130917806
armenians are fucking subhuman like anyone from the caucasus
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>>130918950
Where do contemporary mongolids fit on that graph? because the alleged archaic admixture associated with the Onge find doesn't seem to bear any particular relation to mongolids by that graph.
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>>130919598
The average American is slowly becoming very poor. You won't hear about it too often because of pride, but it's slowly becoming a reality.
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>>130919182
also scots are germanic too i'm sorry to say
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>>130918989
you mean the ruski mongoloid ethnicity? slavs are snow niggers.
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>>130916088
Das rite, das rite
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>>130919659
I won't argue with you. I've met many Armenians with detestable characters. But honestly, everyone is slowly becoming detestable. Life is just becoming a shit-hole.
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>>130919739
yeah but not all germanics are english
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>>130914259
I suspect you're correct. I'm of darkish Anglo/Irish/Spanish descent and was always afraid if I went to Russia I'd be accused of being one of "the blacks" i.e Caucus people. Then I got a Russian girlfriend and she said I looked very different from those types.
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Imagine if those were countries...

R1b --- cucks
R1a - Aryan, alpha
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Paternal: R-L48
Maternal: H

What do they mean?

Am I white?
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>>130919847
Those are acceptable haplogroups for white people.
I can't tell if you're white just from those though, as that's only your direct maternal and paternal lines.

for all we know, your paternal great great grandfather could have taken an african for a wife, your maternal great great grandmother could have taken an african for a husband, and their kids could all have subsequently taken africans for partners and you'd be 1/8 european and 7/8 african (which is actually a fairly common breakdown for african-americans), and still have those european haplotypes.
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>>130919558
Well, some of you are 'purer' than the others. Same thing here, there's different 'types' of Serbs.

We have the 'Gypsy Serbs' in the South, small, fat, dark skinned, usually dumb. Pretty hardworking and honest people.

We have the Slavic Serbs in the North, really fair, usually blond and blue eyed, not too tall. Pretty autistic and usually smart.

And you have the West Serbs (I am this one), we're supposedly Illyrian/Dinaric. Really tall (185cm's+), really pale or beige skin, dark blond hair and brown/green eyes or black hair and blue eyes are the usual combinations. Usually pretty friendly but easily offended, more 'capable' than the others.

I have brown hair and mud green eyes, my whole family is blond/blue eyed but I got meme'd out of Aryan aesthetics. Atleast I carry the gene that I can pass on.
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>>130919829
pic related is a scottish guy at a haplotype extreme, and i've seen plenty others like him, and desu i think they're bordering on iranid. they're dolicocephalic so can't be explained by "dinarid". honestly by physiognomy, they would best be grouped as iranid or irano-nordid etc.
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>>130920276
another
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>>130920320
another
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>>130919678
Onge are 100% east eurasian, same for east and southeast asians. Hard to say they're mongoloid because that's a subtype of east eurasian.
Siberians tribes would appear something like 10-20% siberian huntergatherer and 80-90% onge.
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>>130920388
Looks like a Jew desu.
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>>130920457
fair. however, i've seen several other similar graphs and not a single other one seems to imply onge admixture into ANE.

>>130920500
nahh, to me he looks somewhere on a spectrum from turkish/anatolian to irano-afghan, of sorts. he's far more robust than jews.
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Armenian diaspora here. Straight brown hair, greenish eyes, pale skin.
While most Armenians have shitty black hair and brown eyes, it's not really correct to point out the darker skin color. The country is high in the mountains in the south, the UV rays are strong as fuck there. Armenians who live in Russia have a lot lighter skin than those who stayed in Armenia. Concerning Kim Kardashian and other celebs: they fucking tan. And Kim is half Iranian if I'm not mistaken.

Still, there a lot of shitskins among Armenians: those who mixed with other ethnicities like Arabs, Persians, Kurds. The R1b dominance in Armenia cannot be a proof of whiteness, as the logic here is that ancient Europeans moved to Europe from the north of the Middle East, includig the modern Armenian region. However it is a great indicator that Armenians didn't mix as mush as you would expect from a country that was surrounded and conquered by various shitskin enemies for thousands of years, so most people maintained their paternal heritage from their common ancestor with Western Europeans.
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>>130911398
Good thing you are doing something about it
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>>130920658
>from their common ancestor with Western Europeans.
All these drunk tales from Erevan
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>>130920793
This is literally what hyplogroups are about. Why are Russian nationalists always a fucking joke?
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>>130914871
>You are West Asian, not European though
Its cute how a russian uses CIA """factbook""" """definition""" of region.
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>>130908419
>>130914259
>>130907639
>>130906964

>Morons who have no knowledge of Turks as a people

Turks can vary from literal blue eyed blondes to dark brown eyed Indian/Persian looking people as they were just ruling warrior/governor class of people who converted and assimilated local and imported (slave, jannisary, Balkan convers who took refuge in Anatolia) populations to their own language and religion.

Hell, there can be huge variations even in the same family. My father was a Georgian muslim with brown eyes and black hair while my mother was a ''Turkish'' woman with blue eyes and light brown hair. My brother have brown eyes with a hint of hazel while I have green/blue eyes. Both of us were blonde when we were kids but now I have black hair of my father and my brother has light brown of my mother.

Fuck, I know siblings whom one looks like a Slav and other looks like a typical Iranian/Arab.

Thanks to overbreeding of lover classes, specailly of Kurds, Arabs and Eastern ''Turks'', brown skin, brown eyes became more obvious in the past and ''diversity'' pretty much disappeared though. You can generalize Turks as brownish people
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>>130915008
>Turks/Georgians
თავი მოიკალი
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>>130920906
Not a single nationalist group in Europe sees you as European
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>>130921016
Breivik.
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>>130920793
Explain their occurrence of light brown hair, green/blue eyes, and white skin.

It's obvious that the darkies are from the ones that mixed with the arabs of surrounding nations.
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>>130920906

>Armenians think they are white...

Wtf is wrong with you guys, why can't you just be happy with one of the oldest civilizations in Middle East/Caucacus who craeted the oldest christian church?

Fucks sakes, I have seen Armenians, I KNOW Armenains personally. Other than the Hemshins who are pretty much ethnically/genetically assimilated into Lazs/Georgian but kept their language, Armenians are pretty much Christian Kurds genetically.
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>>130921048
No he doesn't. He even explicitly wrote about reparation of Southern Europeans in his manifesto. Not even an argument really: he wants all Nordic Scandinavia like the rest of militants there
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>>130918580
>tfw 175cm manlet tier
>tfw your women are the 6th tallest in the world
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>>130921016
Not because they aren't white though.
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Now it's reached its bump limit I think I'm gonna bail on this thread.

Adios

unsee cc/pezitamo/
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>>130921173
I just stated that R1b means that Armenians share the paternal line with Western Europeans. I didn't imply that meant that Armenians are white or anything. But rejecting the fact that Armenians and Europeans have a common ancestor is rejecting the facts.

And I don't agree regarding Kurds, those mofos are dark, filthy and disgusting, come on. They are more like gypsies of the Middle East.
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nah, u wuz kangz
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>>130898221
Turks confirmed Greek rapebabies

How roaches can even recover from that
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>>130921537
>literally Armenian Empire
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>>130921537
That subsaharan cluster gives me a giggle every time. Like what mad white bastards went down there in the last glacial maximum and fucked hella bitches.
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>>130921641
better question would be how desperate he was, that he fucked a black women
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There is such a thing as "white Armenians." Yeah, the population is heavily mixed, there has been a lot of mixing with surrounding arab nations.

I mean if anything, Armenia is kind of an example of what will happen to the rest of the world in the coming generations. Imagine what "Germans" will be after a millennium, or "British." All white populations are going to change.
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>>130921724
>better question would be how desperate he was, that he fucked a black women
>a black woman
you don't leave a genetic signal like that by fucking just ONE black woman. he fucking went to town on them.
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>>130921389

Ofcourse you share the same roots as Europeans. That's why your language is called Indo European. Tbh, I always though that Armenians were originally similar to Georgians and other Caucacus peoples but mixed with pre-Invasion Persians to a degree. Hence, similarities and slight differences to both groups.

>And I don't agree regarding Kurds, those mofos are dark, filthy and disgusting, come on. They are more like gypsies of the Middle East.

Was just being a little mean anon, don't take it so seriously.

Hairy... All Indo-Europeans are hairy. Hell, they are the hairiest people on earth compared to every other genetic group. Only difference between Western and Eastern Indo Europeans is the fact that Western Indo Europeans have ligher body hairs which gives the illision of ''non-hariness''.

Do you think Indo-Europeans who live and dominate coldest and hasrhest enviroments in the world survived in those places without any physical adaptations? Scandavians for example are the hairest people on earth.
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>>130921724
It's not like he took a plane there. Months or years without blonde cuties near you, and you'll fuck whatever black ugly woman you meet.
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>>130898221
nice Jewish ploy, Armenian rat, if anything, armenians would be R1A since they're an Iranic peoples.
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>>130917119
>>130917899
>>130917119
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>>130913069

Varg BTFO
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>>130913069
It just means you're not Aryans.
Aryans are the tribe that came into Europe and invaded you native European cucks.
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>>130907639
Half-"turk" here and i can confirm this is true. The whole non-country of Turkey is born from racemixing between the native Anatolians (caucasian) and the Turkic invaders (mongoloid). Even though modern Turks are 90+% brown, the genetic differences between individuals can be gigantic. For my case, people outside never recognize me as a turk. Usually they think i'm from Italy or somewhere in the Balkans. And when i go to a kebab, they talk to me like they talk to the average frenchman.

tl;dr don't fall for the civic nationalism meme or you'll end up like Turkey or Brazil.

>>130913069
>tfw 191 cm
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>>130922312
>WE WUZ ARYANZ MEME
i don't give a shit, nigger
neither should you
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>>130922213
Isn't Varg Nordic though?
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Actually Lithuanians are taller than Croatlets kek.0 fucking sources on Latvia though kek.At least the dude posted some random site that claims it has research from 1896 to make himself feel better.
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>>130913069
I is subhuman as fuck. Fucking cavemen that got civilized and A R Y A N E D.
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>>130922430

He always shills how southerners and that includes us aren't white
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>>130922493
Actually I2a went with steepe people to raid other manlets.
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>>130922555
Checked
Varg is an autist though, half of the time he doesn't make any sense and makes up shit
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>>130918653
>MUH HEIGHT
literally an I y-DNA subhumans version of "muh dick"
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>>130922635
Let me guess,you are that Polish R1a subhuman?
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>>130922635
I have a big dick too :^)
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>>130922372
I have Aryan invader blood according to the map, you don't.

Nordics(snowniggers) & South Slavs(balkanians) are the Eruopean equivalent of native American tribes or Aborigines

Feels good to have alpha Aryan blood in me

Those people came from modern day Ukraine and exterminated you cucks and your cucksheds
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>>130922735
Yes i do, i am blonde too
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>>130922735
South Slavic I2a in the Balkans comes from Ukraine too you mongoloid fuck.
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>>130922663
I am Polish, and I have y-DNA R1a.

But I am ubermensch in contrast to cavemen.
>>130922677
You have a big dick in your ass when you meet Tyrone.
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>>130922797
being blonde means nothing
snowniggers are blonde, too, but they're not Aryan

the only thing that matters is if you're descended from the Aryan tribe that came from Ukraine

native Europeans are beta cucks & weaklings
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>>130922735
nah you are a balkanshit :3
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>>130922885
good for u mate
I will keep being sub human, i love my genes
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I have the NO haplogroup and my father's family is from Western Siberia but we all have blue eyes and fair hair. Am I actually Asian?
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>>130922848
>You have a big dick in your ass when you meet Tyrone.
I have never met a tyrone in my life though
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what did the Western Hunter-Gatherers ever do? what did they invent?

wasn't until folks from West Asia spread to Europe that you guys were taught agriculture and animal husbandry.
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>>130923015
>West Asia
just fucking call it Anatolia already
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>>130922848
Lol no you are not,you are just taking credit for everything R1b people did.What the fuck did R1a mongoloids do?
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>>130923081
>just fucking call it Anatolia already

don't give a damn about semantics, really.

though they shouldn't mess with Anatolia. After all, the Emperor of Mankind was born there
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>>130916182
So Balts are the OG Aryans?
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>>130922735
>Feels good to have alpha Aryan blood in me

if Aryan is so alpha, why is it that all the white women are giving themselves to nigger/sandnigger men? maybe your blood ain't that alpha, after all
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>>130922828
G y-DNA people possibly died out because of diseases. You didn't really cuck them at all.

And do you know why I is the most frequent in Mountain areas? Because you fleed from A-R1a-ns and found refugee in highlands like Dinaric Alps.
>>130922993
Then you have a big dick in your ass when you meet Mehmed.
>>130923163
We created the biggest currently existing country in the world, and we are the last defenders of Europe. We also created your shithole.
>>130923328
EDIT: I've noticed this map is shit because they combined Yamnaya admixture with East Asian FINNIC admixture.

But Finns are also bebin, so we can count them as ubermenschen.
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>>130923309
>though they shouldn't mess with Anatolia.
indeed, we are also from there
>the Emperor of Mankind was born there
WE WUZ KANGZ MAN...

but I prefer Eldar qts over filthy mon-keigh
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>>130923430
>Then you have a big dick in your ass when you meet Mehmed.
I have never seen a woman in a hijab in Croatia or a muslim on a street
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>>130923514
I've seen the Serbian Muslimcunts, none of them wore the garbage bags.
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>>130920579
Onge is a modern population so obviously didn't mix with siberian huntergatherers. Onge is used as a proxy for the ancient east eurasian population which contributed to ANE but which doesn't exist anymore.
You could replace onge with japanese or vietnamese and the result would be the same.
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>>130923514
I doubt if you have ever seen a woman other than your mum.
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>>130923691
>that filename
>I doubt if you have ever seen a woman other than your mum.
kek, beri original ;DDD
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>>130923430
Lmao illiterate cuck we didn't flee shit,we have left our towns and mixed with steepe people who said anything about G or cucking.
>We have created the biggest country existing the world
Lol,holy shit,a Pole is proud of Russia now?God job in colonizing an arctic desolate wasteland,but i think i prefer the warm and fertile areas that you snow niggers got cucked out off.
>We created your country
Lol delusional Pole.
>We are the last defenders of Europe
>taking memes seriously.
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>>130913458
kek
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>we didn't flee shit,we have left our towns and mixed with steepe people
No you fled to highlands, that's why I2 and I1 are the most frequent in Dinaric Alps or Scandinavian highlands. You mixed with steppe people much later.
>Lol,holy shit,a Pole is proud of Russia now?
I have White-Russian (aka Belarusian) ancestry as well.
>God job in colonizing an arctic desolate wasteland
We defeated mongols on our own, you defeated turko-mongols because Russia helped you in 19th century.
>prefer the warm and fertile areas that you snow niggers got cucked out off
We didn't. But we still assimilated you to our Slav culture very fast
>Lol delusional Pole.
Lusatian Sorbs are the most R1a population in Europe, and their cousins created Serbia.
>taking memes seriously.
>implying V4 isn't the last bastion of Europe
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>>130913458
Why am i not surprised about this
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>>130924310
Lusatia/White Serbia is our supposed ancestal homeland which we left with the Unknown Archon.
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>>130924310
Lostian Serbs are Germanic rapbabies lmao @ you cucks.
>You mixed with stepe people much latter
Wrong,we mixed before INdo-Europeans even arived,which is why I2a L-621 originates in Ukraine and not Balkans.
>We deafeted Mongols on our own
You didn't defeat shit Khan just died.
>Your deafeated Turko-Mongols because Russia helped you in 19th century
Lol, no,we kicked them out without Russia,in fact Russia has fucked us if anything.

>V4 isn't the last bastion of Europe
Subhumans who have never done shit can not be a "bastion" of Europe.They can only be a bastion of their self and their degeneracy.
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>>130924696
Never proven kek.There are more than 1 story.There is a s much proof for that one as there is for the whole Iran thing.
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>>130924846
Well, I don't really know, it'd make sense but we're not that Slavic by blood. We're Dinaric/Illyrian predominantly.
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