NEW Right wing art

>>130892368

No demand. I don't make shit for free you socialist scum.

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>>130892368
I call this "sad dad & sneezers" it represents /pol/

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>>130892530
There is demand. Your movement will die without aesthetics. Nazis had futuristic propaganda, cool haircuts, cool outfits -- Hitler was a theatrical genius. You sit there like a fucking stubborn old geyser saying while the visionaries of the world are creating the future.

Propaganda is also art -- Identity Europa just posts pictures of classical statues with slogans underneath. Where is the creation?

>>130892954

Listen, I'm on your side. I'd love to do it. I'm saying that no one wants to pay for it. I'm not going to try to raise a family on peanuts or welfare.

>>130893280
when has capitalism ever produced great art? it's always the visionary-idealism of socialism that produces great movements and artwork. the motivation can't be in the money

>>130892368
define right wing art

>>130894565

Ok, now you I know you aren't serious about this subject. Patronage is the basis of all good art. Only New York art fags believe otherwise.

>>130894717

Tasteful photographs of pregnant white women.

>>130894992

>photographs

kys

Sabo http://unsavoryagents.com/
Does this count?

>>130892368
the difference between "right wing art" and leftist art is that artists recreate the beauty they see around them and leftist have ulimited capacity for art because they pervert everything

>if liberal art is so degenerate, why can't you fucking make anything to compete with it
what is there to compete with? Everyone here aknowleges that classical ways of doing art is superior. Are you sugesting we find beauty around us? The beauty is in the past.

>>130895587

I like the sentiment but the execution and content is derivative. I don't see the point in trying to emulate street art. It's left wing by nature.

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>>130892368

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>>130892368
You're asking us to post memes right?

>>130895753

Why dont YOU make some yourself

Be the change you want to see in the world

>>130895955

Read my previous replies. I don't work for free.

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>>130892368
White people like to fuck their younger innocent siblings if they dogs ain't around and they smell like camel cigarettes and steamed diarrhea and they fuck their close relatives and it smells like fish mixed with feces and the contents of the bottom of a port a potty tank with a strong smell of skunk toasted garbage with a hint of Mayo

>>130896064
kek

>>130893280
have you made anything on the side to show your abilities? how would someone know who to fund if these artists aren't putting out demos?

>>130892368
If the right wing could make decent art, the Nazis wouldn't have spent all that time stealing art from other countries.

>>130896225

I've made art, but I'm not about to dox myself. Go find someone with talent and ask them to create. Pay them.

>>130896321
you just said you would produce art if you were paid for it. Are you just saying that people haven't seen your art? You say you don't work for free, but how are people supposed to pay you if they don't know you exist?

>>130896499

Listen, I'm not interested in promoting myself. I moved on from the art world for several reasons, only one of which was frustration. People want the work produced, but expecting it to magically come out of the aether is ridiculous. All great artists had patrons, and with the internet it's never been easier to find people. There isn't a talent problem, there is a demand problem.

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>>130894812
"Good art however 'immoral' is wholly a thing of virtue. Good art can NOT be immoral. By good art I mean art that bears true witness, I mean art that is the most precise... All great art is born of the metropolis" - Ezra Pound.

"The artist is chosen by God to fulfill his commands and must never be overwhelmed by public opinion." - Albrecht Durer

“The painter of the future will be a colorist in a way no one has been before.” - Van Gogh

“The job of the artist is always to deepen the mystery.” - Francis Bacon

>>130894717
Take your political views (/pol/-inspired) and turn it into artwork. This is Politically inspired artwork -- such as propaganda, or art for the advancement of a nation. It's easy to post Helios and say "our culture is superior" -- but what is being created now that makes civilization superior NOW?

>>130895694
>beauty is in the past
IN THE PAST, THEY FOUND BEAUTY IN THE PRESENT -- that is why it is beautiful -- they found beauty where and when they were. We need to do the same.

>>130895905
I want to see some OC

>>130895955
exactly this, make some art and post it. liberals have cool music, cool fashion, cool aesthetics. we got what? need some aesthetics badly.

>>130896812
i'm sure there are rich anons who would be willing to become patrons but probably don't know how. You say it's easy to find people, but we both know that the modern art world is littered with degenerates. So how would a patron find the good ones?

>>130897183

There are tons of artist out there on behance/carbonmade etc. As far as I was concerned I was pretty content agnostic when I made stuff. Patrons always direct the meaning of work. Just don't piss them off. I might be remembering my Roman history wrong but I think Augustus banished Horace to an isle in the Mediterranean for crossing him.

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>>130896125
okay nigger back to somalia you go

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>>130896977
>N THE PAST, THEY FOUND BEAUTY IN THE PRESENT -- that is why it is beautiful -- they found beauty where and when they were. We need to do the same.
The past was beautiful, the present is mainly ugly. The only beautiful things I could think of present/future have to do with space. Do you you think bringing the past into the present doesn't counts as "NEW right wing art"?

>>130898050
I just want to add that people on the right should take back environmentlism from liberals who just use it for virtue signaling. Environmentalism is another beautiful thing about the present and future.

>>130896977
will keep that in mind.

>>130896125
Stop being Islamophobic!

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>>130892368
relax skinhead, but those classical art pieces you just throw around had a sense of pride to their people and the nation they were in. pride in themselves and in their country. they basically shunned anything that wasnt white and slated the term orientalism on it, relax buddy. they were definately not liberal lol

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"Based Black Man"
anonymous
2017

A new movemente of fascism must be futurist by definition.

The futurism of today, is light-years away from the futurism of 70 years ago.

We now reach the atoms, the chromosomes, the stars, AI, nuclear fusion, super fast travel, cybernetics, vertical gardens and robotics.

If it ever happen again, and if it can live for at least 15 years of peace, it will be the ultimate utopia.

It's the brightest of all dreams. Total human creative power liberation.

But without the proper social values, our technological progress is worthless and a tool for the enemies of the nation.

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>>130898050
no, because it wouldn't be new -- what does the current year and climate offer us that is new? we HAVE to find beauty where we are -- wherever you find it. The past is a weight that holds us down -- and this is the single most striking problem in the current right-wing, it is holding onto "the way things were" without realizing that we have to evolve to the way things are. the future can be better than it is now. Stop bringing the past into the present. and this does NOT MEAN that we the future has to be "the way things have been going" -- we can change the course of direction into something better -- and artists (always in tuned to creation of the future world) are the key to this. we need more ART in the right wing -- for the creation of a better future.

>>130896812
What do you /imagine/ right-wing art would look like? Just pics of heroes?

>>130892368
NatSoc Germany had plenty of Neo-Hellenistic sculptures that were later destroyed by the Allies.

>>130896125

Why can't niggers ever speak and write in any proper grammatical sense? Im sure this is bait though, but fuck...this stereotype is real with the subhuman.

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>>130892368
https://www.counter-currents.com/2011/01/jonathan-bowden-on-modern-art/
Jonathan Bowden was right wing/nazi/fascist and he created a lot of modernist style paintings

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>>130892368
Charles Wing Krafft is an artist and was accused for being a holocause denier

>>130898817

Marriage, traditional values and return to faith.
Return to traditional art. Return to traditional morality, return for patriotism and nationalism.

That, side by side, with AI driven logistics for automated mass production, genetic altered vegetables, eugenics by design with CRISPR, space exploration and new colonies, VR for new media and state propaganda, return to Roman style architecture with automated robotic workers...

The dream is here. And it's better than it could ever be.

>>130892368
That's our heritage you faggot. If you think you can do better start sculpting and post pics

>>130898863
>The past is a weight that holds us down
You sound like a progressive here. The past guides us. Also every art movement/genre before modern art was building on past art in some way.

>>130898863

We are to keep the fire alive and expand it.
Never forget your past, but do improve upon it.
Bring back he classical rigidity, the necessity of beauty in all arts, bring back big composers and move away from pop music. Realize human potential, realize the national potential and TRANSCEND THE PAST.

>>130899147
>if liberal art is so degenerate, why can't you fucking make anything to compete with it, but instead hide behind what real artists did a thousand years ago and wear it like a badge?

This gives him away tbqh. It's probably a liberal lurker baiting.

>>130898863

It's not about being NEW for the sake of novelty, it's about being TRUTHFUL and BEAUTIFUL and aligned to the NATIONAL AMBITIONS.

There is no other way.

>>130892368
>reeeee it's OLD
That's the POINT faggot.

>if liberal art is so degenerate, why can't you fucking make anything to compete with it,
What liberal political art are we competing with exactly? Fucking banksy?
Fuck off.

>>130899112
So .. sci-fi cover art, you're saying.

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>>130899216

>>130898956

I'm not sure. I think part of the problem is that the institutions that used to produce great art have crumbled and no replacements have come up. I'm sort of a fan of art as a complete experience in the way that Catholic and Orthodox churches operate (symbols, music, architecture). Thanks for nothing Protestants. Aniconism is the gayest philosophical position ever.

>>130899462

It's not sci-fi when it's the very reality that feeds us and sustain us.

It's the ideological constructing material for the fascist art: social utopia of a futurist united state, as fascist is futurist by definition.

>>130899496
>mfw I only had to clap

>>130898863

You're obviously a progressive liberal.

The past is the foundation of right-wing life and beliefs. We are grounded in a European identity, a sense of national pride, things that have HERITAGE.

The reasons latte-sipping nu-male cuck liberals have "trendy art" and "cool nu stuff" is because they come from nowhere.

They are no one.
They are nothing.
They are the bastard children of a social trend.

There is nothing wrong with admiring and giving deep praise to the incredible work of your forebears'. There is nothing wrong with having a sense of identity and heritage.

Fuck yourself, scum.

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>>130899882
There's legitimacy to the fasci-wave artistic movement.

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>>130899882
if i could pin a comment i would do it to this one

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Fascism IS futurism.
Fascism is a technology based state for advancing the nation united under traditional and nativist values.

Fascism of today IS the sci-fi of the very recent past. Technology will free us, while we contain our animalistic instincts for the communal good.

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>>130899882
Damn Straight

>>130899882
Calm down. Why would he even make this thread if he was a liberal? He's trying to find ways to create something new and that's how it came out.

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Modern Westerners putting up classical Greek statues is like classical Greeks putting up Stone Age cave paintings.

>>130900160
>Why would he even make this thread if he was a liberal?

(You)'s and maybe to grasp a better understanding of the enemy.

>>130899882
I say you're mostly right. Right wing politics is meant to meld the past with the present. We need to make art that does such in order to appeal to a larger number of people.

>>130900189
>They didn't have as much technology as us so their civilization was inferior
Hello retard

>>130900368
no, almost everything he's saying is right. I bet some of you gusy would want to dress like people from the past as seen here >>130900150

The world moves on and grows, we just have to create the new trends with guidance from the past. Liberals spit on the past, that's why the present looks like a dump.

>>130900539
... what?

>>130900372
We don't need to "make art" we need to inspire it.

The true heart of Traditionalism isn't forced authoritarianism, but a wise balance of hard work and opportunity.

We must work hard as intellectuals to create an environment where the artistic mind can flourish, finding inspiration from our beliefs as they shape the very world around us.

I think our creative strength lies in our writers and philosphers, they will be the ones who will spur work from the artists

>>130900615
>>The world moves on and grows, we just have to create the new trends with guidance from the past

Everything has been done before. But yes, we can't be something we're not (romans, people from the 30s) and so on. But we can take what we like from them.

>>130899147
yes, the past is guidance. but every master of the past - was he living the past? No. What was it that made the GREATEST, the MASTERS, what they were? They were wholly products of their time. They build upon the past to make something new. Every great thing is a CREATION.

>>130899261
"Sane judgment abhors nothing so much as a picture perpetrated with no technical knowledge, although with plenty of care and diligence." - Albrecht Durer. Good observation

>>130899326
Not even close. I'm finding strengths in liberalism and wanting to leech them to the right-wing. I want fascist aesthetics back.

>>130899397
It needs to be NEW. We are competing with violent, aggressive, attractive liberal music that is explicitly anti-trump (worldstarhiphop) these places are factories for commies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dvTJJvEFL8 (fuck donald trump nigga)
this is the COOL, fuck donald trump ART that is being produced. we need their sound. it's the violent, fuck you, rebellious sentiment that appeals to Americans and anyone with a pulse.

Right-wing music/art is going to only going to emerge with a re-emergence of national socialism. There is nothing capitalistic about Nazism and Hitler. It's all visionary. It was all about Germany. We need the same for USA, UK, and whatever country you come from.

We need art.

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>>130900189
this is a very dumb statement.
We have foundations from those cultures, their sense of pride in their civilization is easily shown in their art, you should be an admirer of them rather than shun them. You shout nazi but Hitlers favorite sculpter was carving marble statues with the same sense as the greeks, in the ideal man with a sense of pride in their country. relax dude

>>130900037
If I could pin your ass with a nuke I would
gtfo newfag

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>>130900189

So why are their art so superior to the gonorrea we have today? Art broke with traditionalism, and it went full garbage.

You can't win against eternal ideals of beauty and truth, they will come back.

The decadent state of art in our era is just a reflex of the decadence of our political age. This will not last forever.

>>130900160

Decent artistic expression of a right-wing sense are stifled in this era because of the cultural climate.

We exist in an era of the Republic where the common man knows the truth but is afraid to speak it.

A great rebirth of artistic expression will come on the day when the barrier of political correctness falls and the forgotten man and woman of America can speak openly the truth.

Until such a time, painting, sculpting, depicting the truth is a self-damning act that results in cultural, social, financial castration.

But the fire rises... it has been long in coming, the pendulum has shifted, or will soon shift.

I'd say give it 50 years and start asking for art, once (((the enemy))) is openly named by the working class, once the worthless, leeching scum is openly derided, shortly before or during, or even after the fire cleanses our Republic from the enemies within.

:)

>>130900615

There is a larger point here that in some sense, this board is serving the same function that cathedrals etc. served in the past. People congregate and contribute to a common construction. There is extensive use of imagery. I do wish for a more direct experience, but you kind of have to take what you can get.

>>130892368
Read James Ellroy

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>right wing art doesn't exi-

>>130900888
Goatse is pretty direct.

>>130900742
>let she be liberals with Nazi ideas

You're fucking retarded. Stop trying to coopt a grass roots movement when you know NOTHING about the ideaology you claim to espouse.

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>>130900767
Why do you think I shun them? Relax, dude.

>>130900782
>So why are their art so superior to the gonorrea we have today? Art broke with traditionalism, and it went full garbage.

Because they had an intact identity as well as organic ideals from which a healthy sense of aesthetics follows naturally.

>>130900615

It's not 'moving on and growing' when it was all a revolutionary plan to destroy us from within. This is not what moving on and growing means. This is sabotage, betrayal and a very elaborate plot for destruction. You call this progress but I call this a silent unannounced war.

>>130892368
what do you think memes are?

>>130900970

You know what I mean. An environmental experience that engages all of our sense perception.

>>130900952
Yes but this isn't a war room, this is culture and Tradition we're talking about. We cannot force anything or else we will undermine our own validity.

>>130892954


this

also the music was crack-tier, definitely ignites the urge to kill communists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZDJUTYDiq8

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>>130900615
>The world moves on and grows, we just have to create the new trends with guidance from the past.
There's a ton of artists like this
There's plenty of modern artists who are inspired by past movements anon wtf

>>130900669
>I think our creative strength lies in our writers and philosphers, they will be the ones who will spur work from the artists
It would best to cover all aspects of media.

>>130892368
I'm an illustrator and have been pondering if I should start doing right wing art. Of course, that would involve throwing away any chance at actually becoming a professional artist or having a career.

>>130900782
>>130901021
THAT IS MODERN ART

>>130901231
>>130901153
I'm not talking about forcing. I'm just saying we should have a natural presence in all forms of media. People should enjoy producing the stuff they're producing.

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>>130901021
Be great like other great civilizations? both believe in the same things? You act like if you admire something such as an old sculpture we are setting ourselves back 500 years. If you want something different just look at liberal art today and see the ass cancer and tell me which one you prefer

>>130900742
>I want fascist aesthetics back.

These things just don't happen over night. The movement just started gaining traction in the last 4 years. Give it about 20 years or so, if the west doesn't completely collapse after the boomers all pass away.

>>130900805
>what we want will take time
Bring it now -- I want to see anti-PC renaissance-tier art NOW. No delays.

I'm going to start a weekly NEW right-wing art thread. anything but OC is unacceptable. we need new art. we can't just copypaste the greatest, we need to make new masters.

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>>130892368

Most of right wing modern art is hiding in comics or cinema, surrounded by cucks and lefty idiots ofc.

>“People attacked my city,” Miller says today. “They killed my neighbors. I despise them. And I want them destroyed … If people think that's somehow reactionary or overly conservative, that's their problem. Let them have their neighbors murdered and see what it feels like.”

>Despite the uproar, Miller didn't exactly back down. Instead he followed up Holy Terror with a startling anti-Occupy rant on his personal website. “Wake up, pond scum,” he wrote. “America is at war against a ruthless enemy. Maybe … you've heard terms like al-Qaeda and Islamicism. And this enemy of mine—not of yours, apparently—must be getting a dark chuckle, if not an outright horselaugh—out of your vain, childish, self-destructive spectacle.”

>>130901231
Yes, it would, but I'm not assessing ideals. I'm assessing the reality of the situation.

We can encourage and support artists, but we cannot force them to produce works.

Our cultural victory will come about through an emphasis on philosophy, humanities, and politics. Art is unfortunately not our strong suite.

>>130901388
Actually no, it would take a collapse to usher in fascism.

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>>130900189
>not appreciating the art and intricate designs and beauty of classical greek statues
are you retard??????

>>130900150
Leyendecker was gay as fuck.

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Art serves a political purpose. Just like today movies and music do propose liberal ideas by design.

Right-wing art is just the same: it elevates the national project, it try to reach the utopia in the end of the struggle and it shows the imagined national spirit overall.

>>130901279
I would love to see your most deeply inspired art.

>>130901388
Good point

>>130901370
>just look at liberal art today and see the ass cancer
be BETTER than them

>>130892368
Why do you have to define all art by political alignment? Why do you guys have to obsess over 'muh white race'? Western culture is in decline, it's garbage now, and nationalism won't change that. No great works will continue to come from the Western world. Accept your irrelevance and embrace your Asian and Semitic overlords.

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>>130892368

Modern right wing art hides in video games

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Enjoy

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DID SOMEONE SAY FASHWAVE?

>>130901687

Also, this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggWJLgN-Es

>>130901592
right wing art has and always been better, a view in art has just been shifted, as nationalism is deemed as satanic nowadays.

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All hail the right wing god.

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>>130901802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPY11DkCQ1A&t

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0olc3qJjLM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8eJ2kxSXmU

yes sir, in full supply.

>>130901279

you can attempt to be anonymous

I'd love to pay someone for new, great art, that uplifts my values, and has beautiful aesthetics.

I lament bitterly that the best music, the best art, the best clothing, the best architecture... the best car designs... all seems to be from an earlier time.

has man truly lost the ability to create beautiful things?

or have those with the gifts of creation merely allowed themselves to be silenced?

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>>130892368

Art is not only imagery, pic related was a series of novels long before the movie. Koontz is a right wing writer doing a ton of horror novels.

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>>130901686
This is about what you are truly passionate about. I know if your'e here, you're passionate about politics. You can make help create the future -- I'm appealing the visionaries and far-seers that want to build a better world where our children will live in. Never embrace your overlords -- You are the master -- Art is the exemplification of your mastery over your world.

>>130895905

Memes art art anon ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAExa9P7hME

>>130901906
hate seeing this shit, its almost as bad as the kekistan shit. fucking blind retard kike

>>130901279
it's all about pen-names. I plan on doing the same thing with my writing.

It's easy to be incognito on the internet -- just make your right wing art with a different handle!

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>>130901279
make it your main hobby if you really want to do something like that. Why not? Post on threads and maybe on other right wing forums like ironmarch.org and see if anyone wants a painting/picture done. I'd pay for one.

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>>130892368
there you go

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>>130901312
It is.

>>130901370
Any art form that doesn't fully capture the conceptual potential, heroism, and idealism of its own time and instead as to copy those of other ages necessarily falls short.

>>130901492
Not sure how you could possibly get that out of my post.

>>130892368
There's no new serious right wing art because the movement has no one making art. It has no one making serious art because it is scattered and has NO overall vision.

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>>130892368
Stupid Anon! We have made art, they're called memes!

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>>130892368

Orson Scott Card is not only venerated as an indisputable master of science fiction but as right wing as they come (much to the chagrin of smug lefty cucks) and very prolific.

Pic related is centered around norse mythology.

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>>130902222
that get is wasted.
fuck you shlomo
checked tho

If music counts as art, then we've got Fashwave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8eJ2kxSXmU&list=RDQMdxwvvsoAQ1s

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>>130896125
>if they dogs
>if they dogs
>if they dogs

Nigger trying to convince us that WE are the ones that smell like shit. You're funny. I hope someone keeps you around as a pet some day.

>>130902455

Yeah but where are the festivals. Communal experience is an important function of art.

>>130901906
More of the same broken ass system. Lets keep going back and forth between two pro-democracy parties while jews get richer, white birth-rates keep decreasing, and nothing ever gets done because some judge can stop a bill.

>>130902007
>has man truly lost the ability to create beautiful things?
most excellent question i've seen

>or have those with the gifts of creation merely allowed themselves to be silenced?

this is all about you. do you see beauty? are you silenced from creating it? beauty is above all else in art -- you see it. make it -- whatever you see. never be silenced -- if silence be an obstruction of beauty.

>>130902346
.Orson Scott Card is not only venerated as an indisputable master of science fiction
He is not. He sold well, but he has nothing on Gene Wolfe or le guin.

I have been an artist all my life, I have to pretend to be a normie to maintain a steady customer list, if my current contract knew they would drop me like a hot potato and I have worked for them for over a year.

>>130902332
I'm going to confine it and make it. I love all of you and want this great movement to prosper.

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OP will be judged.

>>130902738

Well keep making these threads. I know I gave a snarky answer at first but it's a discussion worth having.

>>130902583
think everyone's too autistic to go outside

>>130892368
Because all the 'fascists' here are all shit and pathetic dumb scum. All the good men have died.

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>>130902677
My bro, art is not art that is not seen. Post your private art for us, at least. Whatever moves you the most deeply. I would love to see it. it is greater than you.

>>130900054
You are speaking to autists. Their ideology is secondary. Seek rightists elsewhere to discuss art. Autists have very narrow imaginations. The focus is good for specific tasks, not versatility.

>>130902117
>>130902007
>it's all about pen-names.
>you can attempt to be anonymous

No, that doesn't really work. I'm not that well known, but my style already gets recognized across different, unrelated sites, and some people have managed to track down shit I drew years ago, under a different name.
Besides, I have a history of drawing lewd art, so I would be an easy target for both sides of the political spectrum if I suddenly went right-wing.

That being said, I'll probably still go down that route, but in a less overt manner. I already own my own home and have a steady income unrelated to art, so at least there would be no economic risk.

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>>130902960
yeah okay shlomo, back to israel you go.

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Made this back in November

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>>130902960
you are still here. you are the good men.

>>130902877
will do. art never dies. we always want to create.

>>130903159
make one without (((trump))) in the background

>>130898863
>Stop bringing the past into the present
I take it you've never heard of the Renaissance. I wonder what that was about...

>>130892368
>modern right-wing art
>Starship Troopers
>fashwave

All we need is more Veroheven-style movies

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>>130892681
that's beautiful. do you like mine?

>>130894812
Good art comes from real creativity and passion, art made for money lacks soul like a cheap whore.

>>130903342
Verhoeven is a lefty. Everything you see in Robocop and Starship Troopers is meant to be ironic.

I still enjoy his movies, but he's a cunt.

Why don't you read F.T. Marinetti's "Futurist Manifesto"? That's TRUE fascist aesthetic. The Italians knew what they were doing when it came to art. Other than propaganda, the Germans were only focused on boring Roman classicism.

>>130898681
You know the concept of the nation, a people being united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country, is a relatively new one, right?

>>130892954
>>130896977
>>130900028
>>130900805
>>130901428
>>130901917

See
>>130902085

>>130903589
It's pretty fucking well done for irony. In my country at least his movie was never considered ironic

>>130895587
Dogshit trying to be like adbusters

>>130903508

I disagree with your false dichotomy.

>>130903700
He's one of the most well-known satirists in modern cinema.

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>>130903266
It was a rebirth, absolutely -- but what sets it aside form that which they were rebirthing? The Renassiance, as any Rebirth, is entirely NEW in its re-disocovery and rebirth of any old thing -- it was not a preservation, but a building upon the old -- it was old, but new, that creates the beautiful spirit of the Renaissance, the love and invigoration of a new generation. The future of the west is

It was NEW. it was a RE-birth. The blossoming and flowering of a new, beautiful. Think about rebirth, renewal. You have to become new, you cannot become attached permanently to the old -- you must adapt to the latest. We have to make the FUTURE..

>>130903765
The motivations for an artwork show through in its execution.

I suppose if someone was truly passionate about capitalism and gaining wealth and was making pieces for that purpose could believe in what they are doing and then make art that would be viewed as objectively good by some people.

>>130901189
>pic artist
>inspired by past movements
No he's a leftist that destroys beauty by perverting it and ultimately mocking what made traditional art great. This guy is no different from the people who make things like piss chirst.

>>130900742
Anybody who listens to "Smokepurpp" is a lost cause that we're not competing for. Seriously, you're coming here pushing mass-produced nigger beats as the "cool art" of the 21st century?
You're fucking retarded.
I mean what are you expecting?
Us to start producing party tunes with fashy themes for skanks to twerk to in nightclubs?

>greeks
>right wing

>>130901428
Would this art include fiction literature?

>>130904151
>right wing
>anyone

>>130904028

I think you are missing the point of my comment. I find it ridiculous that one should produce art for free. This board constantly talks about having families, but that requires income. I don't see why the arts should be an exception. I'm not talking about profit, just being able to provide for a family.

>>130896125
>le redneck meme Xd

>>130901532
Leyendecker was gay as fuck, but he wasn't a faggot. If you research his life (Norman Rockwell talked a bit about his homosexuality), he was a reserved, respectable man who was elegant and dominant in social situations, but obviously was sexual partners with the blonde model he used in many of his paintings.

He was never a degenerate faggot, and he did more to ingrain himself in American folklore and culture than many other artists, second only to Rockwell. Not only, his work is traditional as fuck.

People theorize Leonardo Da Vinci was gay too. He joked in his sketchbook with a younger artist/apprentice of his and had crude doodles implying they did buttstuff.

Most gays just keep their preferences to themselves and don't out themselves. It's faggots who identify with their sexual impulses, because they have little actual character or personality to get across besides dick sucking. THEY are a fucking nuisance.

>>130904147
yes, we need to control ALL art. ALL music.

>>130904071
What is perverted about surrealism?

>>130892368
look into futuristic movement of italy during 20th century, their ideas were quite radical.

Also, Ezra Pound is also right leaning, as is Celine, Heidegger, T.S.Eliot, Yeats if i spelled it right.

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>>130902222
it should be a synthesis of past heroism, idealism, and concepts but redone with minimalism and hint of memento mori. the excessive nature of the modern world, religion, and ideas are redefined into the pure form.

the idea of living for only pleasure needs to be stripped away. all the ideas of modern leftism stem from being happy and feeling good. why take tax money from others and give to shitskins? because they'll feel good. everything revolves around being happy using materialism.

i think the cynicism, ascetic, and minimalist ideal are good for fascism and right-wing.

egalitarianism and "feeling good" need to be purged

>>130899882
you're a dramatic retard

>>130904147
He's a shill trying to doxx people.

>>130904507
Looking into Ezra -- he is a genius. "Music begins to atrophy when it departs too far from the dance... poetry begins to atrophy when it gets too far from music" -- says more than anything I could -- this quote in particular leads me to believe that trap music is meant for something greater because it is so close to DANCE -- Dance/art are inseparable.

>>130903640
these kind of aesthetics are so good

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>>130892368
>fucking artlets -- what do you have to show except some shitty memes from photoshop?
Alright, so let's see your portfolio. Do you have any current exhibitions? When was your last art opening?

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>>130905789
Beginning next thread. Right-wing Art Thread.

>>130904506
Look up the stuff that artist makes. It's the embodiment of uglyness done with good technical skills.

>>130905789

Most people could never get work again if they posted their stuff here

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>>130892368

I swear to God I post this shit every other day. Right wingers don't buy original art therefore there is no market for traditional non-degenerate art. Right-wingers would rather buy a shitty mass-produced print made in china at their local walmart or pottery barn instead of putting money into their local art market. Jews put millions into the art market and thus they create a high demand for the degenerate shit art that they buy. Not only has the political right all but abandoned the art market but the openly mock anyone who pursues an art career. Fuck you OP and fuck anyone who buys mass produced chinese garbage.

>>130903966
You don't have to choose one over the other. I mean, judging by your flag, you have at least some sympathy for the National Socialists, whose political ideology was split among preservation of European, and more specifically, German culture, along with a radical new approach to nation building, technology and the birth of new traditions.
That's what we should aim for. We must preserve the many good things that western civilization has to offer, without stagnating and refusing to accept positive change.

The irony is that I see myself as a centrist in the classical sense. The problem is that the political balance has been shifted so far to the left that I've become a right-wing totalitarian, because I honestly don't see any other way of reversing the ideological, societal and demographic destruction that the left has wrought upon western civilization. Maybe we need another world war, so that the west can be reborn from its ashes like the mythological phoenix. That certainly seems to be a staple of western civilization.

>>130906657
Don't ever lever lever anyont tell you have you far you're behin,g I swear to gods if you don't.......... fuckc you and die,,,,,,,,,,

>>130904439
>>130904439
I don't know too much about the man himself, so I'll just have to take your word for it. It's still very evident from his art that he was gay, judging from the style and subject matter.

I still like his art, though, and he seems to have a lot of fans among both genders from both sides of the political spectrum, given his propensity for drawing elegant and attractive men and women, and his focus on high society.

The only real criticism I have is that his attempts to emulate Norman Rockwell fell flat on their face. His style really isn't suited for drawing folksy art.

What kind of art are y'all looking for? I have the means and the skills. I'm a working non-liberal artist myself. I'm easy to find in Google. Give me some ideas and I'll put some shit together. I primarily do sculpture work. The artists are out there.

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Honestly I consider stuff like pic related high Art.

Its amazing that this is just blowing right past you guys. this kind of thing would crash the door in on "liberal art" and because they're too stupid to make memes - You have any idea the money someone would pay for a high gloss varnished, framed meme? And an original? Forget about it. Art is a business. You retards are thinking too hard.

>>130907035
Sure thing, bud.

What kind of art are y'all looking for? I have the means and the skills. I'm a working non-liberal artist myself. I'm easy to find in Google. Give me some ideas, symbolism etc and I'll put some shit together. I primarily do sculpture work. The artists are out there.

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>>130903499
i upvote it

>>130898863

>put naked dude statues everywhere
>we are totally not gay

Look up "Triarii". Very fascist music, and though it hearkens back to Rome and the Third Reich, it is new.

>>130907333
show us

>>130907356
>high Art.
I don't think we can have high art at the moment. Our elites have either rotted away, surrendered or are downright collaborators with the alien foe. High art has to have a public of high people, and the seeds of a new elite are too scattered at the moment. We live in a time of transition. You can't expect such an age to have its own Thing, as OP is demanding of it.

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>>130906447
I wouldn't call it ugly, just strange/macabre. It doesn't seem to have any malicious intent.

I'd say it was ugly if he clearly lacked technique and rendering.

>>130909083
True. Fine art is dead, and politically motivated art critics killed it.
Modern and postmodern art are basically extensions of Marxist ideology.

>>130909138
It's not ugly in skill, it's ugly in meaning.

>>130909296
Do you mind elaborating?

Do you think it's intended to be a slight against the old masters?

>>130909279
I think it was going to die anyway. Such things are inevitable.
We must await the New life, if there is to be new art. In the mean time, we conserve what we can and maintain the skills to reproduce it.

>>130909414
>Do you think it's intended to be a slight against the old masters?
Probably not, but it's possible. I think the artist is just an average degenerate leftists that take pleasure in watching maggots on a corpse.

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>>130909980
Fair enough.

Just be aware that morbid imagery has always been a staple of classical art.

>>130899065
hitler would call this degenerate art because it is

fuck off with your stupid dada art movement

>>130909872
There are several movements that are trying to move away from post-modernism, but they don't get that much attention in the media, given that the media is largely controlled by post-modernists.

Some of them are shit, like stuckism, reconstructivism and post-postmodernism, because they seem to imply that post-modernisms weren't full of shit, but the New Sincerity movement isn't too far from something /pol/ might like. 4chan, and particularly /pol/, could also be described as post-ironic, in that we mix and blur the lines between irony and sincerity, and are extremely self-aware, unlike post-modernists' take on irony and their complete inability to appreciate or even understand sincerity.

>>130903966
Liber scriptus proferetur,
In quo totum continetur,
Unde mundus judicetur.

Judex ergo cum sedebit,
Quidquid latet apparebit:
Nil inultum remanebit.

>>130910408
yes, but it's done tastefully where one can find beauty in it

>>130902684
Underrated post

>>130906627
This
>art degree, kek, enjoy being poor
>why isn't there more non-degenerate art?
Fucking niggers, you made this

Is the fingol film maker in this thread? I saw you post yesterday but couldn't respond???

>>130912420
Jordan Peterson's take on creativity is quite interesting. Based on IQ and the big five personality traits, he claims that creative people on the left tend to become artists, while creative people on the right become engineers. This is empirically reflected in the unusually large proportion of conservative engineers, especially when you compare it to other fields that require higher education.
That's interesting on a number of different levels, but I'll just leave it at that.

Of course, the other problem is that art has become completely politicized, so if you go to an art academy, you're not actually taught the technical skills required to do figurative art. You're taught that ideas reign supreme, and that technical skill isn't required to make art at all. The art community is also completely dominated by Marxists, so even if you are a good artist, you really have no way to break into the art scene, because you're not going to make any connections unless you're a disciple of post-modernism, nor will you find anyone willing to support your art. Art critics in particular loathe technically well-made art, or anything that doesn't conform with their Marxist world view. That's why the vast majority of technically skilled artists in contemporary society are commercial artists, where it's seen more as a craft than an art. You're not going to find technically skilled artists in so-called fine art.

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>>130892368
I made an art style OP
I did it for the lulz

But definitely very serious about it all - it's in its infancy at the moment, could be seen as related to the New Sincerity as >>130910832
mentioned, but entirely focused on fine art with traditional media

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>>130892681

>>130892368
/pol/ is new right wing art, pleb

>>130892954
You are right, britther! I make jazz for the upcoming reich