/pol/itically Incorrect PMO-Addiction Support Thread

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>>130888859

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>>130890904

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>>130891226

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>>130888859
Pray for me /pol/

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I've been trying to gradually stop using porn. It went well for a few weeks but now I'm back in the trap. I just need to remember that porn and dirty women are nothing more than bread and circuses.

>>130892284
Get help homie

If I masturbate once a day and don't look at porn when I'm not masturbating, am I addicted?

>>130892973
no

Bumping this shit. I know some of you roody-poos are addicted to porn tenfold over my own problem.

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>>130888859
>jerk off occasionally (Less than once a day) to help sleep

Am I fucked /pol/?

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>>130892973
>If I masturbate once a day and don't look at porn when I'm not masturbating, am I addicted?
Yes, you have MO-addiction (masturbation-orgasm). Masturbation is never necessary. Your body has a natural mechanism to deal with this called nocturnal emissions.

I already know it's bad, so what's the point of this thread? I'm trying to stop but no matter how much someone tells me it's dangerous it doesn't go away. It's like a heroin addiction

>>130888859
Wow. MORE shilling, done by kikes to try and distract users from talking about real issues

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Do you have any good sources/studies/materials that dont come from the YourBrainonPorn movement specifically?

Reading this image makes the founders and propagators of it a tad dodgy however I dont want to reject the notion off hand because of that alon

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>>130893164
>jerk off occasionally (Less than once a day) to help sleep
No, I was exactly in your shoes. In fact, I was worse off than you. I used to stay up at night and masturbate until my penis bled. I would masturbate multiple times I day. My porn tastes changed from regular porn to other weird stuff. This was for many years, even during my formative years growing up.

I am now PMO-free for a few years now. Never looked at porn, I don't want to, don't have to. I have never masturbated. I know this is hard to believe, but it's true. I don't need to masturbate. My body naturally self-regulates through nocturnal release.

If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can definitely climb out of it. No excuses. It may be difficult to reboot, but you only need to do it once. When there's a will, there's a way.


> “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” – Chinese Proverb

>>130893166
you have a sick relationship with yourself you faggot

save your seed boys. edge all the time masturbation and sex, IT IS YOUR LIFE FORCE. once you stop being a little bitch you won't cum in your sleep.

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>>130893220
>I already know it's bad, so what's the point of this thread? I'm trying to stop but no matter how much someone tells me it's dangerous it doesn't go away. It's like a heroin addiction
That's why we are here to help. Look at the YouTube video in the main post. If you fell into PMO-addiction, than you can definitely climb out of it. Nobody said it was easy. It wasn't easy to reboot. But you only need to do it once. The reboot takes AT LEAST 90-days. So you need to change your lifestyle in the meantime and think it like that. It's not like some nicotine patch you can put on and go about your day. It's a paradigm shift and that is why many people have a hard time grasping, but it's true. You'll be better off in the long haul by making this wise decision backed by medicine and science.

You can start here: https://yourbrainonporn.com/reboot_your_brain

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>>130893339
>Do you have any good sources/studies/materials that dont come from the YourBrainonPorn movement specifically?
Yes

Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction https://yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

Brain Studies on Porn Users https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

And remember these are scientifically-proven peer-reviewed medical journals. Now to address your image.

>Reading this image makes the founders and propagators of it a tad dodgy however I dont want to reject the notion off hand because of that alon
That same image you post is always posted in these types of thread. First, it's by some anonymous "Ph.D" who probably has PMO addiction himself. Second, their claims are ambiguous and not substaintiated: where is the control group? What is the p-value? They spout out platitudes and feel-good to edge you further in your PMO addiction. This is what many addicts use to justify continuing their addictive behavior despite science and facts countering their beliefs in their face. Third, because it's by some anonymous Ph.D, there is no peer-review going on here. It's some slick anonymous post with feel good phrases. Be smart and open your eyes. The first step towards recovery is to admit you are addicted. Admit you are addicted to PMO. We are here to help.

>>130888859
Theoretically what if someone made porn of himself doing it with his girlfriend or wife, then played it on several big screen TVs while getting it on with his gf/wife? Is that redpilled?

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>>130893658
>you have a sick relationship with yourself you faggot
It's a very common mechanism for addicts to lash out at anybody criticizing their addiction. That is because the addict forms a very close with their addiction, effectively melding into their identity. Attacking their addiction, saying it is wrong backed by medical science, is in turn interpreted as an attack on them.

We are here to help. We are not here to judge. I was exactly in your shoes and I know how painful it is. There is hope. If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can definitely climb out of it. No excuses. It won't be easy, but knowledge is power. Equip yourself and join a support community to help you in your journey. Once you break free, you will never look back.

You can start here and read more about why PMO addiction is bad for you: https://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

>>130893439
One thing though, do you feel sexual rush randomly during the day?
Also, how much do you have sex?
I'm asking because excess porn/masturbation/orgasm leads to fucked up reward system and impotence, BUT ALSO, theoretically, excess abstinence (particularly not releasing your semen) will lead to testicular atrophy, since they're not being active.

>>130888859

I'm struggling to overcome my addiction. I would stay up at night and go at it for an hour or two. I'd masturbate once a day, or keep it down to the weekends.

I definitely need the help OP, where do I start, and how can I take it from there?

bump

>>130894904
Becoming a monk is not the goal, but having more energy through not wasting your male vitality, so you can find a wife/GF and waste it with her.

>>130892284
degenerate

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>>130894904
>One thing though, do you feel sexual rush randomly during the day?
No, but during the reboot process I did.

>Also, how much do you have sex?
During the time I didn't have a girlfriend, I never had sex. This was for about 1-2 years. Your body self-regulates through nocturnal emissions.

>I'm asking because excess porn/masturbation/orgasm leads to fucked up reward system and impotence, BUT ALSO, theoretically, excess abstinence (particularly not releasing your semen) will lead to testicular atrophy, since they're not being active.
That is because you are PMO-addicted and when you are in the reboot phase, you will find it difficult. Once you restore your dopamine receptors (takes about 4-8 weeks) and you fully go through the reboot phase, you will return back to equilibrium. Do not despair by confusing what you feel during your withdrawal reboot phase as what's normal. You only need to reboot once, but you need to do it right. If you relapse, that's fine. You simply need to identify what triggered you, temporarily get rid of it, and try to go through the reboot phase again. Remember, it's at least 90-days so plan accordingly.

>>130893339
>questioning behavioral addictions (eg. internet)
>multiple researches on social media fucking up dopamine
you can delete that image anon, nothing of value will be lost

>>130888859
>>130890904

This topic is a joke. Completely overblown. There is such thing as addiction to porn, but very few regular porn users have it.

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>>130895013
Pray to God for strength, ask him to take it away and repent for self harming yourself and than do nofap for three months and I guarantee you will be cured. I did this and it truly helped.

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>>130895013
>I'm struggling to overcome my addiction. I would stay up at night and go at it for an hour or two. I'd masturbate once a day, or keep it down to the weekends.
I was exactly like you. I would look forward finding that perfect porn angle. I would stay up at night and fap multiple times a day until my eyes hurt. I would masturbate in the shower as my routine. I was PMO addicted.

>I definitely need the help OP, where do I start, and how can I take it from there?
The first step towards recovery is to admit you have an addiction. Then you need to equip yourself with knowledge. Go through the links in the main post. Watch the YouTube video. Next, take action, start making a goal. A plan. I first did 3 weeks of no PMO then did a controlled relapse. Basically, I "rewarded" myself with a PMO session once I hit the 3 week mark. Next, I think I went ahead with the 90-day goal. Unfortunately, I failed around the 100 day mark and relapsed very hard meaning I was in the PMO-addiction cycle of my old habit for about a month or two. Then I identified my trigger and tried again. I have been PMO-free for a few years now.

If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, you can definitely climb out of it. Nobody said it was ever easy, so don't give up. We are here to help. Remember, knowledge is power. Start now.


> “The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” – Chinese Proverb

>>130888859
I had an horrible breakup 2 years ago almost killed myself and the only thing that made things really better was constant masturbation, like 1 once a day every morning. Everytime I try to stop I revert back to the horrible state that I was in within less than 2 days. Help me.

>>130894180

>The first step towards recovery is to admit you are addicted. Admit you are addicted to PMO. We are here to help.

Im porn free due to medical issues, my interest is more in the movement as Ive seen real strange characters on both sides.

Do you have any good sources from the other side for me to compare?

>>130895356
Kike faggot detected. If you don't know that porn is a control weapon than you arent really redpilled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEExIhmv_Ow&t=108s&list=FLEKOuO4tCAqYUb1iKd6NFAg&index=3

>>130895157
What if you masturbate a few times a week and have none of the aforementioned problems in the bedroom w real female partners?

I've found when I give up masturbating for more than a few days I am hard constantly throughout the day and find myself considering having sex with lower status females. I feel like regular release keeps me rational

>>130895640
go for a camping trip and don't masturbate. When you get back don't masturbate, instead get yourself a nice white gf and merry her. Problem solved.

>>130895671
There is no hard science behind any of this shit. In my personal life I have experienced that regular release gives me more awareness and control over my actions, not less!

Yes, if you are using porn to avoid real life responsibilities you are addicted and need to change your behavior. Outside of that what exactly is the problem?

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>>130895157
>Becoming a monk is not the goal, but having more energy through not wasting your male vitality, so you can find a wife/GF and waste it with her.
Not to criticize you, but every single guy was effectively "a monk" back in the ancient days. If you read the ancient texts, it's very common mention of nocturnal emissions and what a man should do in cases of nocturnal emissions. Male nocturnal emissions were treated as commonly as women's menstration. For example, in the Bible: "If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water and be unclean until the evening." (Leviticus 15:16). There are many others cultures and religions that also talk about men's nocturnal emissions. For example, over at https://www.reuniting.info/ they cite in Buddhism that the man loses his energy when he engages in masturbation and they discourage that. Anyways, my point is masturbation is not normal and it is never necessary. Your body self-regulates through nocturnal emissions.

It is a paradigm shift because in today's world, virtually every men is addicted to PMO in some shape or form. Even the journalists that churn out these news reports overlook this problem because they too are PMO addicted and they think it's normal and not worth covering. It's sort of living in a matrix.

>>130895937
Yes, goy. Stay a virgin your whole life, it is virtuous!

>>130892284
Were can i get one of those

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>>130893166
How often do people get wet dream if they don't masturbate? I don't want to cum in dream because it's a mess to clean up, so can i just masturbate semi-regularly to stop the wetdreams?

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>>130895356
>There is such thing as addiction to porn, but very few regular porn users have it.
Porn addiction is not the same porn binging. What you said is a contradiction. If you need to look at porn, you are addicted to porn. Virtually every male has PMO addiction. If you masturbate, then at the very least you have MO addiction. I had MO addiction long before full blown PMO addiction.

Also, this topic is not a joke. There are hundreds of peer-reviewed academic studies in medical journals that prove PMO addiction is as harmful as drug addiction and has many negative effects

34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies," 12 recent neuroscience-based reviews of the literature: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

All the links are there on the website. Please take a look and don't treat this as a light matter.

>>130895717
This.

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>>130892284
why does it have eyes?

>>130895911
It is self harm.

>>130888859

I no longer consume porn or masturbate.

I'm finally free.

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>>130895717
>real female partners

Having sex with multiple partners is an entirely different level of degeneracy than this thread is supposed to address.

>>130896204
What do you have to say to my earlier comment?
>>130895717
What if you do not NEED to look at porn like you assumed but do for more enjoyment. I do without it frequently. What does the literature say about masturbating but not using porn?

>>130896541
I mean throughout my lifetime bra

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>>130895640
>I had an horrible breakup 2 years ago almost killed myself and the only thing that made things really better was constant masturbation, like 1 once a day every morning. Everytime I try to stop I revert back to the horrible state that I was in within less than 2 days. Help me.
People fall into various addictions when they go through a traumatic phase in their life. I hope I am not making light of your situation and I understand it may have been difficult with your sexual release pent up. However, I would argue -- again not to criticize you -- that your PMO addiction has made your situation worse and still have you fixated on your previous love. I know this sounds paradoxical, that artificially releasing yourself will somehow make the pain fade away, but it will only make it worse because anytime you have withdrawal it will make it bring back the flood of memories.

All is not lost though, you can certainly recover from this. Everybody has to go through their own trial of their reboot phase and it's not easy. It's definitely doable, so no excuses.

>>130896442
Not an argument

>>130896724
therefore it is bad.

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>>130895661
>Do you have any good sources from the other side for me to compare?
Not sure what you're talking about. Could you re-phrase?

Also, many people confuse this PMO-addiction to NoFap. They are not the same. NoFap is not based on any science or facts, just pseudoscience and feelings. PMO-addiction is medically and scentifically proven. Like many addictions, there is a recovery plan that all men can go through.

>>130896671
The problem I have with all of these infographics is that the assume a universal experience pattern.

I've been watching porn occasionally for 10 years (sometimes once a day, sometimes once a month), while I have dabbled in weird genres I always come back to vanilla

>>130896819
Yes, I agree. Your argument IS bad

>>130896997
by all means, keep harming yourself then.

>>130896828
> Could you re-phrase?
I was asking if you hand any the studies used by those who oppose the yourbrain on porn people so that I could compare them with the studies you already showed me.


>Also, many people confuse this PMO-addiction to NoFap. They are not the same. NoFap is not based on any science or facts, just pseudoscience and feelings.

What is Nofap then, what are their views/arguments? I thought they were just the community who gathered to practice the yourbrainonporn info.

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>>130895717
>What if you masturbate a few times a week and have none of the aforementioned problems in the bedroom w real female partners?
There are a host of problems with PMO-addiction. At the very least, every PMO-addicted has to look at porn. They may not need to binge on PMO, but they need to PMO. A PMO-free person never needs to engaged in PMO behavior, their body naturally self-regulates through nocturnal emissions or they will have the release through their sexual partner.

>I've found when I give up masturbating for more than a few days I am hard constantly throughout the day and find myself considering having sex with lower status females. I feel like regular release keeps me rational
PMO-addiction is not normal because you are essentially frying out your brain of dopamine receptors. Also the justification you gave is only an excuse to continue your PMO addiction because your fear is "I cannot control myself around women." If that is the case, then isolate yourself from women during your reboot phase. Again, this only applies during the reboot phase which you only need to go through just once if you do it successfully and you will not feel this sexually charged post-reboot. What you are experiencing is withdrawal symptoms. After the reboot phase, you will return to equilibrium. I know because I went through this exact thing myself and had this exact fear. So stop making excuses for you and others such as >>130896244

>>130888859
Is that really your brain on porn? Shit i need to stop.

>>130893658
Edging is actually worse for you than just cumming.

dont do nofap or any of that BDSM bs. Masturbation is perfectly normal, doing it 9 times per day to hentai tentacle trap snuff porn isnt.

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>>130888859
a literaly penis in the brain pic on the right !!!

>>130888859
No porn. No masturbation. No anime. (You know why. Stop lying to yourself)

>>130896204
So according to you I have PMO addiction but 0 symptoms. What is that supposed to mean?

>>130888859
human beings work on incentives

offer something better or you are banging your head against a brick wall

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>>130895911
>There is no hard science behind any of this shit.
Yes there is, I link this in many of my posts


Brain Studies on Porn Users. The results of these 34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use. All support the premise that internet porn use can cause addiction-related brain changes, as do 12 recent neuroscience-based reviews of the literature: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction https://yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

> In my personal life I have experienced that regular release gives me more awareness and control over my actions, not less!

Again, we cannot rely on self-diagnosis. You are clinically addicted to PMO, look at the picture and that is what your brain would look like in a brain scan. There is also a chance you may have slight clinical depression along with a host of other issues. You were never tested for these so we don't know, and neither do you. Just because you think you're okay doesn't mean that is the case. You never went through the reboot process so how would you know.

Also, if you think you are fine now. Then think how much better off you will be if you were PMO-free.

>>130897287
Thinking with your dick = thinking about dick = inagining dick = shaping your brain like dick.

NO. ANIME.

>>130897156
Explain how it is self harm if there no negative effects

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>>130896054
>Stay a virgin your whole life, it is virtuous!
Ad hominem attack. In fact, PMO-addiction is probably the leading cause of many men who are single and virgin. I had a hard time getting a girlfriend when I was PMO-addicted. I don't think it was coincidence that I got a girlfriend soon after I was PMO-free.

>>130888859
ok.
so?

>>130895911
>>130895717
You're gay. 100% you're a queer faggot.

Stop playing with your dick.

>>130893439
I don't believe you.

>>130897466
as with almost everything on the left, it is some level of perceived harm

thats all it ever is

_perceived-harm_

>>130897466
A mans semen is important for his health, it contains vital chemicals that without a man becomes depleted in those areas. Look it up. Im not going to spoon feed you. read the fucking thread.

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>>130896187
>How often do people get wet dream if they don't masturbate?
It depends on the person and their current situation. If you have a sexual partner, then you won't get many nocturnal emissions of course.

>I don't want to cum in dream because it's a mess to clean up, so can i just masturbate semi-regularly to stop the wetdreams?
Funny you mention because it's a silent epidemic that men worldwide never discuss how much of a pain it is to deal with nocturnal emissions. Perhaps you realize this. Women complain all the time about their menstrual cycle, but virtually no men even knows what nocturnal emissions are and think it is a strange concept. It is truly a paradigm shift to be PMO-free and lead a normal life as mankind did for eons.

In fact, online pornography is a very new concept in mankind history. The internet was open to the public in the 1990s. This means online pornography is a main factor only in the past 25 years. Think about this how much of a novel concept this is and how many men are waking up.

>>130897661
So you're gay and proud.

Well you're also a sex criminal. That's the destiny of gay men

>>130897206
>There are a host of problems with PMO-addiction. At the very least, every PMO-addicted has to look at porn. They may not need to binge on PMO, but they need to PMO.

As I stated before I don't need to look at porn. I've gone without it for 4 months before. I definitely don't have to use it every time does this not apply to me?

>>130888859
What's your take on blue-balls? Sometimes the pain is so excruciating, I interpret it as a signal from my brain saying telling me not to get cancer and release fluid.

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>>130896564
>What if you do not NEED to look at porn like you assumed but do for more enjoyment.
You are not doing it for enjoyment, you are deluding yourself. If you need to do it, then you are addicted.

>I do without it frequently.
Porn addiction is not the same as porn binging. You can still be PMO addicted without binging on porn.

>What does the literature say about masturbating but not using porn?
https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users
https://yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

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>>130893439
>does not masturbating lead a eunuch, such as this one, to add quotes at the bottom of posts like he is sending an email in 2003?

You need to start up again

>>130897792
are you ok?

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im pissed at god for making sex desu

some people like me will never have a wife so what good does it do except torment my life

sexnorms are the worst

wish this world didnt have sex

>>130897414
According to Jew research psychologists

>Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction

These sound like terrible problems. I don't have any of them

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>>130896961
>The problem I have with all of these infographics is that the assume a universal experience pattern.
Here are many scientific medical studies that prove PMO addiction. The whole point of an academic medical study is they compare a control group vs. the affected group and prove various hypothesis of how PMO-addiction is harmful in various ways:

Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction: https://yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

Brain Studies on Porn Users: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

>I've been watching porn occasionally for 10 years (sometimes once a day, sometimes once a month), while I have dabbled in weird genres I always come back to vanilla
The first step towards recovery is to admit you have an addiction. Then the healing process can begin.

if you still defend porn use you are blue pilled as fuck and a kike puppet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWM4bJNpch0

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Is this whole thread an elaborate meme?

Am I being memed right now?

Someone answer me honestly.

>>130897730
The body is made for frequent ejactulation. You still lose these during regular sex, does that make that bad too?

Plus there are tons of studies correlating prostate cancer to infrequent ejactualtion

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>>130897181
>I was asking if you hand any the studies used by those who oppose the yourbrain on porn people so that I could compare them with the studies you already showed me.
There is one on PsychologyToday but that has been debunked as there were many problems with the study. You can find that study through Google search. Unfortunately, it's ranked fairly high because PMO-addicts are always fishing for an excuse to continue their addiction.

>What is Nofap then, what are their views/arguments?
You'll have to ask them yourself

>>130897750
Assuming ancient man didn't masturbate

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>>130897220
>Is that really your brain on porn? Shit i need to stop.
Yes, you can start here: https://yourbrainonporn.com/reboot_your_brain

>>130897589
for sure

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>>130894180
Scientists are to afraid to fight this out of fears of ousting themselves as avid masturbators

>>130898210
Sex with a female releases Oxytocin which is pro social chemical.

Porn releases an absolute tidal wave of dopamine similar to cocaine and other dopamenergic drugs

Excessive build up of semen is released naturally through wet dreams when necessary

the idea that you have to fap or get prostate cancer is fucking ridiculous

>>130897414
>Also, if you think you are fine now. Then think how much better off you will be if you were PMO-free.

That's possible

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>>130897280
>Masturbation is perfectly normal
Masturbation is not normal. If you need to masturbation, then you are by definition MO-addicted. I was MO-addicted long before PMO-addiction. You don't need to masturbate. Your body has a natural mechanism by nocturnal emissions. Please educate yourself and don't spread misconceptions.

>>130892284
wtf is this shit?

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>>130897318
>So according to you I have PMO addiction but 0 symptoms.
1) If you need to PMO, then you have PMO-addiction. That is one symptom. 2) You do have other symptoms but you haven't been clinically diagnosed with them yet. If you quit PMO addiction then the changes will become apparent.

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>>130888859
Listen to the golden one. Stop watching porn. Do you think it pleases the God and your ancestors for you to pleasure yourself while watching such degeneracy?

>>130888859
I haven't fapped to porn in two years and I'll be a wizard soon. I'm saving my seed for that special somebody. Or that's what I keep telling myself. :(

>>130897897
That's what I'm saying. Seems like every organ in the body needs to regularly exercise its function

reminder that Israel used porn as a weapon against Palestine

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>>130897365
>human beings work on incentives
>offer something better or you are banging your head against a brick wall
There are scientific facts and evidence to back this up. Also there are support groups to help you with your journey. We are not here to judge you because all went through the same thing. We are here to help.

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>>130892284

>>130897792

reading comprehension is not strong with this one

>>130898849
You're a faggot.

>>130898747
yes. through nocturnal emissions

saying porn and masturbation is good for your sex organs is like saying that eating junk food all day every day is good for your digestive organs

>>130898273
Would it be fair to say that people who drink coffee frequently would be getting the same effects?

>>130895429
So regarding the pic you posted what's the difference between sex and masturbation?

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>>130897530
>so?
This is a silent epidemic affecting all men. You may not care how it affects you because you don't care. But every man has a right to know and take appropriate action.

>>130897661
>_perceived-harm_
If a tree falls in the middle of a forest, does it still make a sound? It is not imaginary. There are multiple scientific medical peer-reviewed studies that prove PMO-addiction is harmful. Again, this is a silent epidemic and men have a right to know.

>>130897506
I think there is a large chance you are confusing correlation with causation. I am happy it seemed to work out for you, though.

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>>130897612
You don't need to believe my story, but believe in science and facts:

Studies linking porn use or porn/sex addiction to sexual dysfunctions, lower arousal, and lower sexual & relationship satisfaction https://yourbrainonporn.com/studies-reported-relationships-between-porn-use-or-porn-addictionsex-addiction-and-sexual

Brain Studies on Porn Users, neuroscience-based reviews of the literature: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

>>130898747
It does it through wet dreams. Don't worry

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>>130897827
>I've gone without it for 4 months before.
I never talked about how infreuqently you look at porn. If you need to look at porn, then by definition you are addicted. Porn is not like alcohol. You don't go to a porn-tasting shop and try various types of porn, and pick out that particular porn growing in some region in Pornville. You get that natural release and satisfaction either through 1) nocturnal emissions or 2) through a sexual partner

>>130888859
>>130897903
>>130897730
>>130898975
>>130898716
>>130898969
>>130898959

First hit on google
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive

>>130899185
are the wet dreams pleasurable or don't you remember them?

>>130899263
See
>>130898273

They have links on the website which debunk that study specifically

>>130899263
I couldn't possibly imagine why psychologists would want people to be mentally weak

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>>130897897
>What's your take on blue-balls? Sometimes the pain is so excruciating, I interpret it as a signal from my brain saying telling me not to get cancer and release fluid.
If it's medically proven you have blue-balls, then talk to your medical professional to get medical professional advice. Your school should cover blue-balls as part of the curriculum. The problem is virtually every man is PMO-addicted, so nobody knows anything about blue-balls or nocturnal emissions. That said, I felt aching in my balls and even pain when I was going through the rebooting process. I was concerned but post-reboot I never felt the pain or discomfort again. I speculate this is because 1) you never gave your body to practice nocturnal emissions so your body doesn't have the necessary cues to perform this vital function and 2) it's part of your withdrawal symptom during the reboot process. Again, if you are very concerned then seek professional medical help and don't use this as a fear tactic to excuse yourself back into PMO addiction.

the fact that people freak the fuck out when you even suggest that porn might have negative effects speaks volumes of it's addictive nature

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>>130892284

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>>130899506
porn may have ruined my life cuz heavy jerk off in high school when i lost all my friends and drive to do something

lel idc september 23 is coming only a few months of this shit life

>>130898178

Just some guys acting like the alcoholics anonymous of porn and making the same cult-like arguments about how there is no moderate use of porn and everyone is an addict.

>>130899077
I don't believe that watching porn made you end up watching weird different stuff to get off nor do I believe you masterbated till your dick bleed. But I've heard worse so I don't know
Also this
>>130898483
You can be addicted to basically anything. I don't understand how someone can crave porn when I watch and masterbate often. I do it for fun. I think these addicts are just weak-willed hypochondriac or full of shit

>>130899245
What is the difference in symptoms between MO and PMO? All the talk is about PMO

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>>130898057
>These sound like terrible problems. I don't have any of them
Again, you're relying on the fallacy of self-diagnosis. By definition, if you need to look at porn, then you are PMO-addicted. If we did a brain scan, your brain would look exactly like this. This is not normal. Second, you don't know what you feel like post-reboot. So what are you comparing against? Chances are, you have mild clinical depression along with a host of other factors.

PMO-addiction cuts across the spectrum. Every guy is affected, but it affects every guy differently in various dimensions. But every guy is affected. If you need to PMO, then you are PMO-addicted. The first step towards recovery is to admit you have an addiction, then the healing process can begin.

>>130899499
>1) you never gave your body to practice nocturnal emissions so your body doesn't have the necessary cues to perform this vital function and 2) it's part of your withdrawal symptom during the reboot process. Again, if you are very concerned then seek professional medical help and don't use this as a fear tactic to excuse yourself back into PMO addiction.

I'm in the middle of rebooting and I've been having emissions, so it's not 1). I had to relieve one bout by ejaculating, the pain was tremendous. Like literally someone kicking you in the balls, and having that massive pain near your stomach area.

For what it was worth, relieving that episode I wasn't so much focused on getting an orgasm, but rather, relieving the pain, WHICH DID GO AWAY AFTERWARDS, which leads me to believe blueballs are physiological tell that something needs to happen to relieve it. That's the only deliberate orgasm I've had outside of wet dreams during this reboot.

>>130899721
And I have to imagine that the studies are all based of those extreme types of people

>>130899245

I litterally test out 30 seconds - 3 minutes of porn switch clips until I find something I wanna bust to (try wine until I find what I'm looking for) I've never watched a full 20 minute porn

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>>130898210
>Plus there are tons of studies correlating prostate cancer to infrequent ejactualtion
Another scare tactic blown way out of proportion. The percentage this may affect is extremely small, plus there is only one study that supposedly proves this point.

On the other hand, there are countless medical scientific peer-reviewed published journals that prove various ailments of PMO-addiction:

The results of these 34 neurological studies (and upcoming studies) are consistent with 220+ Internet addiction "brain studies", many of which also include internet porn use. All support the premise that internet porn use can cause addiction-related brain changes, neuroscience-based reviews of the literature: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

PMO-addiction is a serious issue that every men needs to face and there is no reason to keep making excuses.

Is it healthy to not fap? Will abstaining from masturbation give me prostate cancer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1FtZB1WKKg

>>130899654
This. Not sure why all these betafags are even taking this thread semi seriously.

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>>130898296
>Assuming ancient man didn't masturbate
They didn't, even if there were it was an insignificant amount. Today, virtually every men is PMO-addicted.

>>130899787
Is there not a difference between someone who is morbidly obese, stuffing their face with cake, and someone who is healthy occasionally eating cake for the enjoyable experience? You would say the latter is an addict. I just can't get behind that

>>130899245
In that respect it does seem like alcohol

desu I'm trying. I can cut out porn in the legal sense, but I have a lot of hot hunbies who I fap to on snapchat instagram etc.

I know its probably cheating, but damn its hard to stop

>>130900299
Because you were there? Give me a break

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>>130899263
Yes, that study has been discredited. First, the author and journalist who published this story are self-proclaimed PMO-addicts. Secondly, look at this comment which provides a scientific and logical rebuttal that points out the flaws in the particular study. Again, they only provide one study, nothing more: https://www.psychologytoday.com/comment/513899#comment-513899

I have addressed that particular article (and there's only one) because it ranks so high since many PMO-addicts need an excuse and they rely either on an anonymous Ph.D or a faulty study so they can excuse themselves back into PMO addiction.

100+ scientific and medical peer-reviewed Brain Studies on Porn Users: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

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>>130898716
>I haven't fapped to porn in two years and I'll be a wizard soon. I'm saving my seed for that special somebody. Or that's what I keep telling myself. :(
Assuming you also aren't MO-addicted, then you'll be worse off in PMO-addiction. PMO-addiction cuts across the spectrum so not everybody's story will be the same but the are significant effects on the male psyche

>>130899506
Its not because its off its addictive behaviour as much as people are generally sensitive when you ascribe weakness or negativity (in this case addiction) to a habit of theirs.

Ive noticed I can get similar hostility when I even question a persons parenting style or their relationship with coffee or even certain ideologies

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>>130898959
>Would it be fair to say that people who drink coffee frequently would be getting the same effects?
No, because the sexual urges pertain specifically to the core limbic system part of your brain. Essentially, being addicted to coffee or video game addiction isn't the same as PMO-addiction because our brains aren't hardwired primitavely to seek out "video games" or coffee at such a funadmental level.

Think on this for a moment. Virtually every male in PMO-addicted. On the other hand, not very many are addicted to coffee or video games.

>>130898178
the only meme is you cranking it to your chinese suicide footjob gangbangs

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>>130900909
>Virtually every male in PMO-addicted. On the other hand, not very many are addicted to coffee or video games.

simply not true everyone is addicted to vidya and coffee

/pol/ is weirdos 36 year olds who didnt grow up when there was video games

>>130888859

>everything OP has presented

yes.... ok.... and?

>>130900909
>On the other hand, not very many are addicted to coffee or video games.

I thought most men were coffee or caffeine addicts, otherwise why would they do it so many times a day?

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>>130888859
>kikes telling everyone to stop having sex so much
Yeah fuck you. You want white men to be chained to stacy fucking Tyrone, while you sit and watch and MAYBE she will help you cum.

The anti-masturbation movement is funded and founded by Kikes, much the same way as degenerate porn is all funded by Kikes.

But you know what isn't?

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>>130898969
>So regarding the pic you posted what's the difference between sex and masturbation?
PMO stands for Porn-Masturbation-Orgasm. You can be MO-addicted without looking at pornography. I was MO-addicted long before PMO-addiction. If you need to masturbate, you are by definition MO-addicted.

The natural way your body deals with this is 1) through nocturnal emissions or 2) release through sexual partner. Now the reason why online pornography is bad is because you are exposing your brain to countless number of females. Every man now has a virtual harem of females at the click of a button and it's putting their brains into overdrive essentially frying theri brain

Evolution has not prepared your brain for today's porn: https://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

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>>130901434
>Every man now has a virtual harem of females

i disagree fapping feels like shit after the 2000th time

i enjoy masturbating maybe once in 100 tries

>>130901243
>>130901176
something interesting, ever since being on nofap I still drink coffee but I am not reliant on it in any sense

I used to have to drink 2 strong cups in the morning to even be able to use my brain but now it's just like "yeah a cup of coffee would be nice"

similar thing with video games. I play them occasionally but I'm not constantly looking for that dopamine hit you get from in game rewards.

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>>130899007
>I think there is a large chance you are confusing correlation with causation.
No, that's the entire point of academic medical peer-reviewed studies so they can effectively pin-down correlation with causation. Also you're being very intelluctually dishonest here with your meme "correlation vs. causation" freshman argument, think about it

>>130901652
Is it not you who is being dishonest? One drink of alcohol and you are an addict type talk. There is such thing as moderation

>>130901631
How long have you been at it? I still have needs for energy/caffine during the day and I havent fapped for about 5 years although it might be different because of my situation

>>130899506
It isn't being presented as suggestion. It is being presented as a fact that porn use of any frequency has negative effects that are definitely ruining your life. That's what people want to question further

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>>130899721
>I don't believe that watching porn made you end up watching weird different stuff to get off nor do I believe you masterbated till your dick bleed
For Peter, 31, who preferred to withhold his last name, the low came when he had been homeless for six months and was living in his car. “I would stay in church parking lots and put sunshades up on the windows and spend all day in my car on my tablet device,” he says. He was addicted to internet porn, masturbating six to 10 times a day, to the point where he was bleeding but would continue.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jun/16/internet-addiction-gaming-restart-therapy-washington

>>130902047

https://archive.is/2sxCs

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>>130901631
no fap definitely gets ur dopamine back and more energy

but its too late for me , i never really made it in life to say the least.


no fap cant fix me

too many bad decisions

it doesnt really matter because september 23
thats what i live for

>>130899654
Seriously

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>>130899770
PMO stands for Porn-Masturbation-Orgasm. Virtually every guy is addicted to PMO. You PMO by watching porn to activate the neural visual cortex pathways in your brain in order to induce a dopamine high which then you perform an action (Masturbation) in order to reach the final climax (Orgasm).

MO is Masturbation-Orgasm. MO is PMO without the pornography. Don't fool yourself, MO-addiction is just as bad as PMO-addiction. I was long MO-addicted before I was PMO-addicted.

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>>130902213
sex is just as bad too

frequent every day sex with your wife could definitely fuck up your brain chemicals balance

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>>130899928
Please talk to your medical professional

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>>130900004
>And I have to imagine that the studies are all based of those extreme types of people
That's the entire point of a medical academic peer-reviewed study. I am in the academic field and I know they have to account for these factors which they would point out by the authors themselves or professionals in academia would point this out.

>>130895356
With Jews you lose.

>goawaykikebergelsteinbrennerberg.gif

Take your bullshit back to r/nofap, this has nothing to with /pol/

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>>130900014
Again, you're making another variant of the false argument: porn addiction == porn binging

Porn addiction does not correlate with porn binging. Sure, porn binging is an extreme case of porn addiction. But if you need to look at porn, than you by-definition have PMO-addiction.

Again, PMO-addiction cuts across the spectrum. Looks like in your case you probably don't have a need to look at that much porn, but you are still PMO-addicted if you need to look at porn and masturbate. I am PMO-free. I don't need to look at porn. I don't need to masturbate. I have never masturbated in the past couple years.

Stop trying to compromise with your PMO-addiction. The first step towards healing process is to admit you have PMO-addiction. Then your healing journey can begin.

>>130902649
You don't realize you are the jew right now

>>130898210
Ever heard of alchemy?Ever seen the study that said that ejaculation dampens your testosterone receptors for 3 days?

>>130902457
I just don't find it all very convincing. I just spent some time on that YBOP website and every other sentence is about ED which I don't have.

I respect that people have developed problems from it but I don't see how it it is appropriate for someone using porn or MO in moderation.

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>>130900224
>This. Not sure why all these betafags are even taking this thread semi seriously.
Ad hominem attack. Why are we "beta" when this is scientifically and medically proven that PMO-addiction is real? If we were to scan your brain, I bet you would see with your own eyes same PMO-addiction that heroin addicts have. Stop trivilizing this issue, this is a very serious topic.

Every man has a right to know without shame. We are here to help. Do not the liars and deniers drag you back into your PMO-addiction with their baseless one-shot catchphrases.

>>130888888

>>130902882
Alchemy? Are you serious?

And those charts with the testosterone are real but the amount of fluctuation is basically negligible

>>130902997
Alcoholism is real but not everyone who drinks alcohol has it

>>130888859
I doubt I'll get a real gf so I've just ended up becoming addicted to porn instead. I'm on NoFap right now, day 4 now. I get urges every now and then.

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>>130900681
And were you there too? Give me a break.

Also, if you were smart and used your brain, you would logically conclude that virtually every men today is PMO-addicted thanks to the information highway colloquially known as the Internet introduced in the 1990s. So think of it as this, humankind have had only 25 years to deal with the visual explosion of seemingly limitless copious amount of naked women flashing by their screen at a click of a button. And you think the ancient villagers in medieval times had this same kind of problem? Give us a break.

In fact, there is evidence to suggest that this was the case becuase ancient texts talk a lot about men dealing with nocturnal emissions. Also, even your high school education still talks about nocturnal emissions (wet dreams) in your sex ed class. I bet in 25 more years that talk will become obsolete because the male teachers themselves will have no clue because they are PMO-addicted as well.

>>130888859

u cant get a false rape allegation with masturbation, can u ?

>case closed.

>don't masturbate
>but its okay to have sex daily
sure

>>130903336
I'm not the one claiming I know what they did or didn't do bra

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>>130892284

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>>130900471
>Is there not a difference between someone who is morbidly obese, stuffing their face with cake, and someone who is healthy occasionally eating cake for the enjoyable experience? You would say the latter is an addict. I just can't get behind that
No because PMO-addiction cuts to the core of your sexual limibic system. Basically the primitive part of your brain. This is what distinguishes PMO-addiction from let's say video game addiction or food addiction.

This is why PMO-addiction is so prevelant. Just look at all the deniers and naysayers in this thread even though I point out hundreds of academic peer-reviewed studies in my top post. If they used their brain, they would see and understand, but they take it personlaly because addiction is part of their identity and they refuse to call a spade a spade.

Remember, the first step is to admit you are an addict. Then the healing process can begin. If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can definitetly climb out of it. No excuse.

>>130899263
Thanks Rabbi!!

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>>130900675
>desu I'm trying. I can cut out porn in the legal sense, but I have a lot of hot hunbies who I fap to on snapchat instagram etc.
>I know its probably cheating, but damn its hard to stop

Yes, this is completely normal. I failed and relapse many times during my reboot process. You need to identify what is causing you to relapse. We call these triggers. You need to temporarily remove these triggers until you complete the reboot phase. Post-reboot, you can return back to normal. Just don't visit porn or masturbate, and frankly you won't have the intense urge to. Remember, do not give up. If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can definetely climb out of it. No excuse. It will be difficult, no one said it was easy. It wasn't easy for me. But you can do it based on your willingness, I can already see it.

>>130903980
>reboot phase
Explain this

>>130903714
It's probably also prevalent because the definition is extremely broad

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>>130901176
>/pol/ is weirdos 36 year olds who didnt grow up when there was video games
Ad hominem attack. I'm around your age so don't think it doesn't apply to you because "generational differences." Stop making excuses. If you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, then you can climb out of it. No excuses. Virtually every male is PMO-addicted. The porn industry in the USA alone generates $10-12 Billion Dollars annually. Think for a second and stop living in denial. This is a serious issue and every man has a right to know and make a conscious decision.

>>130900004
Like 0.00001% of the population I bet.
>hey look 3 Muslims bombed a Church
>Islam is a problem!
Poor analogy I know but yeah.
>>130902047
Clearly doesn't have any personal problems at all

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>>130901409
>The anti-masturbation movement is funded and founded by Kikes, much the same way as degenerate porn is all funded by Kikes.
No it's not. In fact PMO-addiction has made men docile. 60% of PMO-addicts suffer from ED.

>>130901652
Seriously. Maybe all these porn addict are fat guys masturbating all day and the only reason they're experience low libido and erectile dysfunction is because of poor health.

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>>130901544
>i enjoy masturbating maybe once in 100 tries
Yes, the hallmark of addiction. Once you make the decision to break free of your PMO-addiction, we are here to help. The first step is to admit you have an addiction, then the healing journey can begin.

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>>130901821
>Is it not you who is being dishonest? One drink of alcohol and you are an addict type talk. There is such thing as moderation
No, because you consume alcohol but PMO addiction relates to the limbic part of your brain. Basically, you aren't developing a physical addiction to porn, but it's neuorological.

Also, your body already has natural mechanisms to deal with it by 1) nocturnal emissions or 2) with a sexual partner. Natuarlly, you'd be more engaged in finding a sexual partner rather than if you were PMO-addicted.

>>130903298
>>130901409
>>130900675
>>130900224
Wear a cross. Look at it, hold it in your hand, and pray when you have urges. It gets better. Do not stay in denial, masturbation is a subhuman practice. There is a reason you feel disgusted with yourself after doing it. Do not fall for the porn/masturbation Jew.

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>>130902335
>sex is just as bad too
No, Coolidge effect: https://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

Also it has been observed that PMO-addiction can yield to change in sexual taste (homosexuality, bondage, hentai, etc.). You don't get this with a real-life sexual partner.

>>130905089
I don't have a cross so I'll just pray until I get one. It's tough, the urges are strong.

>>130905359
I'll pray for you, brother. It's tough, but we'll both be better men when it's over.

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>>130902936
>I just don't find it all very convincing. I just spent some time on that YBOP website and every other sentence is about ED which I don't have.
Again, 60% of PMO-addicts have ED. That means 40% of PMO-addicts do not have ED. You are part of that 40%. I didn't have ED either so I thought it didn't apply to me. I was wrong. I did have PMO-addiction. Again, you really need to be honest with yourself here. If you need to look at porn, you are by-definition addicted to porn. There is no way around it. We are here to help you and support you if you decide to break free from your PMO-addiction. If I can do, and countless others too, then so can you.

>>130905533
I sure hope so, your prayers are greatly appreciated.

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>>130903180
>Alcoholism is real but not everyone who drinks alcohol has it
And not everybody who has noctornal emissions or have a sexual partner has PMO-addiction. Fact is, they are completely separate things and you are confusing "sex" with PMO. They are not the same because there is a host of factors that trigger neurological changes.

Again, I never said "limit your nocturnal emissions" or "limit sex with your sexual partner." However, if you need to look at porn or masturbation, then by-definitino you have PMO-addiction. Stop trying to compromise by mixing up semantics and being ignorante of the terminology and educate yourself. This is a serious topic and you need to take this seriously instead of playing fool and being intellectually dishonest.

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This sounds like a very interesting topic. I'm going to fully read it after I jerk off to some alien rape porn.

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>>130903396
Yes, because porn essentially override your internaction with real women. The very fact you do not have noctunal emissions is fact that PMO-addiction has overriden your neural pathways. Also, Coolidge effect and they cover that here: https://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

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>>130904137
Basically term of forced withdrawal where you restore your dopamine levels back to normal. Basically you fried out your receptors along with a host of other neurological changes in your brain. You need to stop PMO for at least 90-days. Post-reboot, you will not have an intense urge to PMO, basically looking at porn or masturbating. I haven't masturbated in years. Neither have I willingly looked at porn. I can look at some suggestives images on 4chan, but I immediately hide it for example, but they don't trigger me. During the reboot phase, you are very sensitive to these things. They are called triggers. Post-reboot, you won't be as sensitive so you can resume back to your regular routines.

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>>130904192
>It's probably also prevalent because the definition is extremely broad
Okay? An addiction is an addiction. You don't need to masturbate. And you certainly don't need to look at porn. Just go outside and enjoy women in real life. You don't need to masturbate because 1) your body has natural mechanism called nocturnal emissions, they even teach this in sex-ed in grade school and 2) you get a sexual partner

>>130906359
Makes sense actually. The longest I've ever done NoFap for is about two weeks at best. I get one of those said "triggers" that urges me to do what I do, and then I'm back to square one. You said you haven't masturbated in years, doesn't that increase the risk of cancer?

>>130904800
Why is the guy on the left a nigger?
The guy on the right should be a nigger.
And dont forget to put a library in the back ground.

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>>130903336
Yeah i find it funny how all these villagers that walk around partically naked all the time don't rape as much or have the urge to touch themselves. There is clearly something wrong with western society.
I think its the whole 'forbidden fruit' aspect where if you say and make something seemingly harmless a bad think it makes people more inclined to do it. Like how legalisation drops drug abuse.
Maybe we should rather instead drop the stigma of masterbation and everything will work itself out.

>>130904221
So what If I want to have sex or masterbate once a day does that make me an addict? Whats wrong with having fun? Why do you deprive yourself? What benefits have ever come from it?

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>>130906685
>Makes sense actually. The longest I've ever done NoFap for is about two weeks at best. I get one of those said "triggers" that urges me to do what I do, and then I'm back to square one.
Yes, I did three weeks of no PMO and did a controlled relapse. Then I tried for 90-days but failed on day 100+. After that, I was able to reboot successfully. It's all about identifying tiggers and eliminating them temporarily until you reboot sucessfully. Also rebooting isn't the same as NoFap. NoFap is pseudoscience and they claim it makes you into superman. That is nonsense, that's like saying an alcoholic once sober will be able to bench 250lbs and do amazing things. All it means is you are no longer addicted and restore your brain back to balance.

>You said you haven't masturbated in years, doesn't that increase the risk of cancer?
No, that's basically an urban legend at this point. On the other hand, there are countless peer-reviewed medical studies that prove harmful effects of PMO-addiction, notwithstanding it is described as an addiction: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

>>130907117
Does all this improve erection quality at some point?

>>130888859
I'm on my 92nd day of no PMO (I started about 1 year ago, so there was a bit of relapse then and now before 92 days ago)
Just got relapsed today. Fuck. (and it wasn't that good of an orgasm, felt like nothing)
Help me make my 1 year PLEASE.

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>>130907213
>Does all this improve erection quality at some point?
If you suffer from ED, then part of post-reboot success is you no longer have ED. I don't know if it significantly improves your erection quality if you don't already suffer from ED.

>>130906507
>that pic
So was I trained to like ass, titties and beautiful woman? All the things I watch and that turn me on are things that have happened to me sexually in my life. Besides looking at Horse cum porn. But thats another story

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>>130907329
>(and it wasn't that good of an orgasm, felt like nothing)
Yes, I experienced this around my 100+ day relapse. This is normal and don't despair. Just don't relapse again. Identify your triggers, it's more of a mindset and paradigm shift more than anything else. Post-reboot you'll look back and think how silly it was to be PMO-addicted.

>>130907329
(Also that 90 fucking days was stressful, as I was in the hardest training mentally and physically)

>>130907348
seriously consider this>>130904459
Also most addict always tend to have problems and poor health. It's their lifestyle that draws them towards addiction

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>>130907451
>So was I trained to like ass, titties and beautiful woman? All the things I watch and that turn me on are things that have happened to me sexually in my life.
It's normal to like women in real life. It's not normal to flip through virtually limitless amounts of women posing in naked formation in front of your eyes at a blink of an eye. You are essentially frying your dopamine receptors and putting your sexual system on overdrive.

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>>130907654
>Also most addict always tend to have problems and poor health. It's their lifestyle that draws them towards addiction
That's the whole point of these research peer-reviewed by reputable journals have to account if the sample they studied is skewed and if it's representative of the population, and to what degree and margin of error (p-value). They have to account for these things and they will either say it outright or it will be apparent in their study by their mention (or lack thereof). The only way is if they outright lie and fabricate, at which case is a serious infraction.

For example, in this study that investigates:
Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review With Clinical Reports (2016) http://www.mdpi.com/2076-328X/6/3/17/htm is a study conducted by the U.S. Navy

Again, PMO-addiction cuts across the spectrum. Some may exhibit far worse effects than others. At the very least, by definition, if you need to look at porn, no matter how "infrequent" and how "innocent." You are PMO-addicted. I along with countless other men have been PMO-free for years now. We don't look at porn. We don't masturbate. It's not normal to engage in these types of behaviors because your body already has mechanisms to handle this or you will find a sexual partner further spurrned by your natural sexual desires.

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>>130907545
>(Also that 90 fucking days was stressful, as I was in the hardest training mentally and physically)
Yes, it was also a very stressful time of my life during my reboot phase. To be fair, I was going through some stuff at the time and basically was at a nadir in my life. Also one of the most profound. I would tell people I would sit for hours alone in the room in the dark and just meditate. I would feel like that I touched the surface of the sun and explored the cosmos. Some intense moments.

>>130908613
Did these studies include users of non visual pornography?

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>>130909267
>non visual pornography
Never heard of this, I heard pornography is primarily visual how men process it

I've heard that porn addiction can melt your will power. I've tried for months to try to stop but have only managed a week at most. Am I beyond saving? I've been jerking it daily now

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>>130909523
>I've heard that porn addiction can melt your will power.
No, there is no scientific evidence to suggest anything like this. In fact, science points to the opposite that neuroplasticity effects of PMO-addiction can be reversed. Remember, if you fell into the PMO-addiction hole, you can climb out of it. No excuse.

>I've tried for months to try to stop but have only managed a week at most. Am I beyond saving?
Nobody said climbing out of the PMO-addiction hole would be easy. Also the reboot takes AT LEAST 90-days. Usually it will last longer than that. Everybody is different. Identify your triggers, temporarily get rid of them, and keep busy.

>I've been jerking it daily now
Stop that.

>>130907723
Woman don't even turn me on. So I think I'll be fine.
>>130908253
I totally agree with you in certain aspects but I don't see the point in not masterbating at all? I mean I could stop going to the bar or the club easily. I just don't want to because I don't see the point. You said you used to do all this shit right. Did your dick ever stop working?
The way your taking this is like someone who believes weed will kill you.

Also have these studies ever taken into account ones lifestyle? Thats what I keep going on abut

>>130909993
>>I've been jerking it daily now
>Stop that.
Your not the boss of me! JK. Give me a jist of why exactly you want us to convert to your religion? What exactly are you saving me from? Pleasure?

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>>130910864
Again, many science and medical papers prove harmful effects of PMO (and by extension MO) addiction

https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

>>130893339
>sex negativity
on top of the other contentions brought up, that's about the final red flag for me, as well as the "hur dur you've just been shamed about masturbating" canard.

Y'all niggas need to fuck off to reddit with this shit. And get some sleep too, burgers.

>>130910997
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/2iyfh4/pmo_side_effects_written_in_1871_they_correlate/
Masturbation is a very degrading and destructive habit...There is probably no vice which is more injurious to both mind and body...it retards the growth, impairs the mental faculties and reduces the victim to a lamentable state. The person afflicted seeks solitude, and does not wish to enjoy the society of his friends; he is troubled with headache, wakefulness and restlessness at night, pain in various parts of the body, indolence, melancholy, loss of memory, weakness in the back and generative organs, variable appetite, cowardice, inability to look a person in the face, lack of confidence in his own abilities...[Eventually] there will be an irritable condition of the system; sudden flushes of heat over the face; the countenance becomes pale and clammy; the eyes have a dull, sheepish look; the hair becomes dry and split at the ends; sometimes there is pain over the region of the heart; shortness of breath; palpitation of the heart; symptoms of dyspepsia show themselves; the sleep is disturbed; there is constipation; cough; irritation of the throat; finally the whole man becomes a wreck, physically, morally and mentally." "Some of the consequences of masturbation, are epilepsy, apoplexy, paralysis, premature old age, involuntary discharge of seminal fluid, which generally occurs during sleep, or after urinating, or when evacuating the bowels. Among females, besides these other consequences, we have hysteria, menstrual derangement, catalepsy and strange nervous symptoms."
I believe that this is from a text called Onania, appearing in London and written by an anonymous author.
Epilepsy and paralysis seem extreme, although when I used to binge I would suffer some terrifying symptoms in my legs; numbness, shakes, muscle twitches. If I were to continue with binging for another 10-20 years it would not surprise me if I ended up with very serious illnesses."

>>130912631
Basically he just listed every single problem tons of people have naturally and attributes it to masturbation

>>130909361
>Never heard of this

So what about the effects of erotic literature/audiobooks? They would be the same right because its still an orgasm obtained from something other than another person?

>>130912631
Why would you post such a hyperbolic source when there are already so many good ones listed in the thread?

>Sourced from Nofp

>>130910997
Are posts like >>130912631 what you had in mind when you were talking about the problems of the nofap community?

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>>130912775
>So what about the effects of erotic literature/audiobooks?
I don't know and never thought of this. All I know is men consume pornography visually. Females tend to get their sexual high from literature however. Although I do not see this mentioned anywhere even though PMO-addiction is becoming a larger concern with the female population: https://yourbrainonporn.com/porn-problems-here-come-women

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>>130888859
jew you not taking my hentai

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>>130912923
>Are posts like >>130912631 what you had in mind when you were talking about the problems of the nofap community?
Yes

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>>130913254
i bet you are a bible faggot shill anyway.

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>>130888859

If I don't fap every now and then I get long, painful erections especially when trying to sleep.

I also get too interested in 3DPD.d

No thanks.

Going for one hundred days STARTING TODAY!!

Conserving the sacred jing for reabsorption and banishing porn to restore my soft brains. I was used to be an alrite geezer, still am I believe but the porno jew have had its claws wrapped around my dick and brains and made them soft. No more, I swear this time there is no going back. I will seppuku if I stray from the hundred days of jing retention. Mark my words.

I wish success to you all, my brethren

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>>130913672
>If I don't fap every now and then I get long, painful erections especially when trying to sleep.
You are experiencing withdrawal symptoms and I went through similar experience. However if it persists then please see your medical professional. That said, I'd wager it's just a placebo.

>I also get too interested in 3DPD.d
Post-reboot you won't be experiencing the massive urges you feel during the reboot phase. This means you won't be hyper-charged sexually and your body won't be screaming for the dopamine fix. Basically, you'll return to normalcy without the PMO-addiction and warped sexual tastes.

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>>130913833
>Going for one hundred days STARTING TODAY!!
You can do it my friend, stay strong.

>>130888859
scientifically speaking you gotta get it out somehow

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I'm 2 anda half weeks into it, I haven't gotten off but I have been having trouble lately not looking at porn and edging

>>130912923
Im to lazy to read through the mountains of sources you listed. thats why I asked if you could list me the negative affects of porn addiction for me.

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>>130914043
>scientifically speaking you gotta get it out somehow
It's called nocturnal emissions and/or sexual-partner

Also don't say "scientifically speaking" if you're not going to provide a peer-reviewed paper

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>>130914312
>Im to lazy to read through the mountains of sources you listed. thats why I asked if you could list me the negative affects of porn addiction for me.
Then watch this YouTube, they lay it all out for you in layman's terms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oFVOJf0TzY

>>130913833
Meh. I guess I'll join you just for fun then brother. Just to see what kind of influence is actually upon me cause I don't notice it
>>130913979
So you got any tips for this nofap? What happens if I browse places like /b/ or even here and I see boobies and such? Is that an instant fuck up to the reboot? what about seeing beautiful woman of the street?

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>>130914664
>What happens if I browse places like /b/ or even here and I see boobies and such? Is that an instant fuck up to the reboot? what about seeing beautiful woman of the street?
Yes, that is called a trigger and you need to abstain from it temporarily until you have successfully rebooted. We're talking at least 90 days, so you need to think in terms of those timelines. It is a paradigm shift and lifestyle change at least in the medium-term. Also don't rape women.

Streaming porn has basically been around about 10 years. Imagine much more addictive porn will be in another 20 years with VR & hyper-realistic CGI or realistic sex-droids.

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>>130915290
Yes, did you know most 4k video content is porn? I fear for future generation of men. They need to be informed.

>>130914976
>Also don't rape women.
lol. So even if I don't get aroused though. just attarcted is that bad? Their are pretty women everywhere. Also don't understand how to read that grap.

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>>130914175
>I'm 2 anda half weeks into it, I haven't gotten off but I have been having trouble lately not looking at porn and edging
If you are having trouble, then you need to do everything you can to abstain from it. You need to let your brain heal and restore those receptors and other mechanics. Keep strong and you can do it. There are countless guys including myself who thought was lost cause, but I was surprised I rebooted successfully.

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>>130915368
Also thanks for informing us. You might have just saved me.

>>130915555
>that Pic
>The bicycle handle represents his boner...
What did they mean by this?

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>>130915498
Yes, you will notice real life women more. But don't be deluded because during reboot phase you'll essentially have beer goggles on. Post-reboot, you won't have this problem.

>>130914976
Still don't understand this graph

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>>130916094
Basically it means you'll be really horny on some days, depressed or agitated on some days, and normal on some days. Rebooting isn't temporally linear.

>>130914976
>90 days without masturbating
ayy lmao

>>130888859
Really? Opiates didn't really impair me that much. Made me sharper in same ways and the comedown was very smooth with no hangover.

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>>130914976
>Also don't rape women.

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>>130916572
I haven't masturbated in a few years and have had no problems. Your body has natural mechanism called nocturnal emissions. That or you have a sexual partner. This is normal and this is how it has been in mankind for eons until past 25 years with introduction of internet in the 1990s. Ponder on this for a moment.

>>130916762
Fuck that, I don't want to be randomly cumming all over my sheets.

>This is normal and this is how it has been in mankind for eons until past 25 years with introduction of internet in the 1990s. Ponder on this for a moment.
And we also spent millions of years as hunter packs, doesn't mean we have to throw away our tech and go hunt animals and eat them raw.

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>>130888859

Once you get some real pussy on the regular you'll grow tired of porn.

Go nofap and you'll never look back.

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>>130916845
>Fuck that, I don't want to be randomly cumming all over my sheets.
Then get a sexual partner

>And we also spent millions of years as hunter packs, doesn't mean we have to throw away our tech and go hunt animals and eat them raw.
Then you're ignoring the scientific evidence that PMO-addiction is 1) real and 2) has many negative side effects. You're twisting my argument and being very intellectually dishonest here. Go here and look at the medical science papers that prove PMO-addiction: https://yourbrainonporn.com/brain-scan-studies-porn-users

>>130916762
Do you have sex honestly?

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>>130917550
Yes, but I went many years without it and I managed fine. My balls didn't explode. I don't have prostate cancer because I have a healthy diet. Me along with many guys are PMO-free. We don't watch porn. We don't masturbate. That's how majority of men before 1990s dealt with this. Why do you think they still teach about nocturnal emissions in sex-ed still but no guy seems to understand what they are talking about?

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>>130916651