Eat the rich

>>130870074
Clickbaiters into archive

>https://theguardian com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50
https://archive.is/enlp6
>https://theguardian com/business/2016/jan/18/richest-62-billionaires-wealthy-half-world-population-combined
https://archive.is/rb0CM

>>130870074
Who gives a shit what someone else has? Maybe if you spent more time sorting yourself out, you wouldn't be so poor and jealous.

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>>130871143
They didn't fucking work for it,they fucking inherited it!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49167533

>>130871143
So do you think Africans and Indians should just work harder?
Really are you fuck stupid

>>130872409
their father's worked their ass off to be able to have their blonde daughters live like princesses
nourished and provided for children are part of the pleasure of money , m8

>>130872721
Rothchilds? You they work damned hard!
Why shouldn't every generation be asked to live from there own hard work and not daddy's or great great great great daddy,
Some of these super rich haven't worked for 100s of years !

>>130873300
>kikes
Of course I agree with you there m8. Their money is stolen , off a lie, from your ancestors.

>>130870074
>>130872409
>>130873300
Yeah, some folks are born with a silver spoon in hand, it ain't me or you, and it might sound unfair but think about it: If a man were successful, should his success be taken away from him? Is a parent not entitled to provide for their children, in the hopes of having a better start, better opportunities, and to achieve more than their parents ever could?

There is NO family, NO person on this earth who would disagree. The leftist shits only spout this garbage because they're miserable garbage who failed at life, and look at those who succeeded with envy.

Let's not even go far: We've all heard the story of Bill Gates, of that dude who made Walmart, of Steve Jobs making Macs in his garage back when Apple just started......look at it this way, if you were one of those people, if you were one of those who worked hard and succeeded, would you want some liberal dipshit who fell for the liberal arts degree meme, saddled with student debt, almost no understanding of fiscal responsability, to take away what you earned for yourself just because "you're rich"? I guaran fucking tee you, if any of these starbucks sipping hipsters were Steve Jobs, they suddenly wouldn't be supporting redistribution of wealth anymore.

Capitalism enables the smart, the cunning and the willing man to earn from the sweat of his brow, sure you can say it's not always ethical or reasonable, that it has corrupt practices, but the other alternative is to force everyone in an equal state of misery (see: USSR and soviet satellite states), and EVEN THEN, the party officials and their families get to live in luxury while their hard-toiling """"comrades""""" wait in breadlines.

You're just envious that they were born in luxury, but if it were you I bet you wouldn't want to give up all your fortunes in the name of equality you commie piece of shit. And HURRDURR BUT THEY SIT ON THEIR GOLDEN ASSES ALL DAY is not an argument, if they did their fortunes would be squandered.

Maybe the world needs a max limit to family wealth of 100million.
If you can't live of that then fuck em,
But haveing billions in the bank is taking the piss

>>130870074
The top 1% of artists also create more art than the bottom 99%. What's your point?

>>130870074
You know what's actually really fun?
Stepping into muh christian breads and asking those mammon-gobblers when the next Jubilee is.

>>130870074
Lmao because the poor made zero effort to provide for themselves. The rich do not own every square yard of ground on earth

>>130874223
Artists 1%? Who?
Am talking about muilt millionaires and billionaires
Most didn't work for it, I bet a lot got it by dirty means too.
We need maximum wealth per family of 100million. If not we will continue to have wealth inequality till civil war and the poor come with pitchforks to take the wealth be force,

It's about who owns the companies, they own all multinationals and all resources. If the people would own shares in companies they would get their share in profits. Don't steal the money from the bank, steal the bank itself.

>>130870074
why are you trying to make rich people poor instead of making yourself rich?

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>>130875018
The revolution is the effort. Viva la revolucion

>>130875352
Hey you bong commie fuck, why don't you refute my arguments >>130874027 ?

And to blow the fuck out of you even more, how will a wealth cap account for inflation or higher costs of living? You DO realize a wealth cap means there is literally zero reason to compete further, right? Look at Walmart, do you have any idea how many employees are paid by Walmart either directly or indirectly? Do you have any idea how much their investments (opening new shopping malls in X city in X state in X country) has paid for someone else's living wages? What if you impose a wealth cap? WHOOPS all those Walmarts around the globe are gonna shut down, all those hundreds of thousands laid off across the globe, now what, genius?

>>130875713
>Being this stupid

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>>130875018
>because the poor made zero effort to provide for themselves.
Pic related
The western world is held up on the backs of poor brave man

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>>130875018
True. They prevent you from doing anything useful even with your own.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/vegetable-garden-brings-criminal-charges-oak-park-michigan/story?id=14047214

>>130872409
>http://www.cnbc.com/id/49167533
>But a new report claims that the story of self-made wealth on the Forbes list is just that – a story. The report, from the left-leaning United for a Fair Economy, says that 40 percent of the Forbes 400 richest Americans inherited a “sizeable asset from a spouse or family member.”

>Forbes says that 30 percent of the Forbes 400 members inherited their wealth and the remaining 70 percent are entirely “self-made.” (Read more: Tax Hikes Will Chill Giving, Say Billionaires)

yeah, 40% of them inherited at least some of their wealth--a "sizeable asset" from a family member. That doens't mean that their wealth isn't mostly self-made.

>>130870074
poor people don't deserve money. They deserve to be removed from the gene pool.

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>>130874027
>the alternative is the USSR
way to bite the Jewish false dichotomy

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>>130876177
You go kill him For not working harder

It's a lot easier to make money when you already have money.

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>>130876585
>It's a lot easier to make money when you already have money.
True.

>implying the pic on the right isn't just some LARPing heroin addict

>>130875955
the reason they don't want it in the front yard is in case a kid with deadly allergies eats something he shouldn't while walking by ( yes I know the parents should watch their damn kids) but that is why they do it
>t. gardener

>>130875352
A flat wealth tax would do well. If you can't create enough wealth off the land to pay your taxes, obviously you're incompetent and need your wealth taken away from you and given to someone who can do better.

>>130876315
Now you understand the value of 4chan-x and filtering amerifat partyflags.

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If we should kill any group of people ,it should be the out of touch rich elite,

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>>130875352
>Most didn't work for it, I bet a lot got it by dirty means too.
LMAO did you even read the article you linked which directly contradicts this in the first three paragraphs? At most 40% can be said to have inherited ANY significant wealth from their families, and that includes the ones who, in addition to having a significant contribution from their family, made the vast majority of their wealth from their own efforts.

>>130877092
>If we should kill any group of people, it should be the commies, and we should throw them from helicopters
FTFY

>>130872409
>WAAAA I HAVE SHITTY PARENTS WHO DIDNT PLAN AHEAD FOR MY WELL BEING
>WAA THOSE WHO HAD GOOD PARENTS WHO BUILT AN EMPIRE OF WEALTH TO PASS DOWN TO THEIR KIDS ARE DA ENEMY

kill yourself you faggot.

You're pathetic. Keep sitting in your room crying about how mummy and daddy didn't have bigger aspirations for your life and doing nothing about it. I hope you end up working the fryer at mcdonalds you pathetic piece of shit.

>>130876315
The bong commie fuck is advocating for redistribution of wealth....because they're rich, and fuck the rich, that's why! Fuck them for being successful, fuck them for inherting assets, fuck them for having a better standard of life than me!

You know what's gonna happen if you deploy a safety net that does not allow any citizen to fail? No job? Here's free money! Wages too low? Here's free money! Not enough money to gib? Well let's skin those pigs for their money! No more fat cats to skin? Let's print money!

Rampant fucking inflation, that's what. Even with government subsidies it can only go so far, if you want an example, look at Poland in the 1980's. They literally couldn't fund the safety net anymore, workers unionized successfully for the first time in a soviet bloc country and forced the gubmint to make concession after concession, Brezhnev had to send the Red Army to retain control. Google "Poland Solidarity", and educate yourself

>>130876585
So first you want the """rich""" to give up all their monies so you can share with everyone, then kill those who fail to make something of themselves. Why not skin more pigs so you can get more money to hand around? And if the poor are gonna get executed by the state, why not do that from the start so everyone gets an even bigger share of free gibs?

You still haven't refuted a single one of my arguments, fucktard

>>130872634
>So do you think Africans and Indians should just work harder?

>using labor to get ahead in a capitalist system
>not saving money and investing it to accrue more money
>being this poor you didn't already know this

You are probably white trash.

>>130870074
i want you Marxist retards to watch this video, just so you're self aware of how fucking retarded you morons are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ

>>130870074
why would i want anyone but the people best at managing wealth to have it?

>>130875352
>poor people coming to take wealth by force

>implying poor people will get off their lazy asses for once

You are too funny britbong

>>130870074
This is so typical of poor people.
The rich don't deserve to be rich, I do.
Well what did you do to earn it?
Nothing, that's why you're poor.
If you made it and became rich you wouldn't give your wealth to your children?
You're basically saying that wealth can only be accumulated until you die for it to be fair...
Let's forget the fact that you're also wanting to take money away from people who made it on their own. You're basically like every black person who's still asking for reparations even though they were never slaves and their lives are far better in America than Africa.
Fuck outta here with that shit.
Stop posting online and go make something of yourself.

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>opens this thread
>expects Hitler memes and moonman videos
>sees a bunch of boomer cucks talking about libertarian shit
>leaves the thread

>>130877092
Why not kill the lazy fucks who just get angsty and upset about situations but do nothing to improve them?

>>130870074
There is a point where it becomes silly, I think, like the fact that certain companies can go in the red and continue to function for fifty years before declaring bankruptcy. In my opinions.

However, redistribution of wealth does not work and anyone who thinks it can or will does not know history very well.

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>>130877308
Yea Richard Branson made he's own wealth, all it toke was 100k from hes aunty in the 1970s lol
It's a fucking joke . Time to burn the super rich

>>130877956
Because the rich elites constrain us into situations that can only be solved with them winning and us losing.
Got any better excuses?

>>130873300
if you are wealthy you should blow all your money on coke and hookers
don't try to leave any for your kids, it will just be taken away from them

>>130870074
>most if not all of these people inherited that wealth
Well, no. The majority of billionaires were born poor.

Nice try though!

>>130878106
Companies keep themselves in debt to leverage their positions and to curb tax expenses.

Jeff Bezos was steaming in a share holder conference a few years ago when Amazon finally posted a profit, it meant that that profit wasn't going back into his business to grow it more.

You see kids, rich people spend their money and lines of credit on things that make them more money. That's how they get richer.

“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as "bad luck.”

― Robert A. Heinlein

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>>130878381
>The majority of billionaires were born poor.
holy fucking shit m8

>>130870074
>t. communist nigger

>>130870074
Then they'll die

>>130878191
That's false though, they don't constrain anyone. You only constrain yourself by not putting in the work and essential time needed to build something.

You think the multitudes of multi-millionaires and billionaires got there because the elite chose them and allowed them to enter their super secret club?

Grow up.

>>130878623
>not putting in the work and essential time needed to build something.
They don't play by the rules. Why should I?
Literally neck yourself, you toxic trustifarian parasite.

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>ITT retarded boomer cucks who don't know how 4chan works feed OP with replies without saging
>posting 0 memes or anything except walls of text

Ok, I posted the rebuttal. Now you lot can fuck off

>>130870074
What ethnicity are all those people? Careful goy, you don't want to commit another Holocaust do you?

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Who gave more this guy and the millions like him through out history that again hold up western civilisation on their backs or the super rich that wher born into wealth?
Am not talking about people with money! Am talking the 1%

>>130879061
Gas the rich, revolutionary war now

>>130870074
Does that mean the Saudis have to give up their wealth? Of course not, just the evil white man.

>>130878763
Not a rebuttal. GDP does not measure the living standards of most citizens. It does not measure value, only sales price. This number only matters if you're a parasitic foreign investor looking for a piece of it.
Why haven't you killed yourself yet, leech?

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>>130879180
>gassing your most productive citizens
Sounds like a really bad idea

>>130879307
Did you not see the poverty rate, which is also there? Bottom right corner mang.

In the past 30 years, china's poverty rate has fallen from 85% to 6%

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>>130870074
> isn't it time we redistribution of that moneys..yes I know it sounds like communism but it's be comeing a fucking joke .

Yes. Half of the top richest are anti-white liberal JEWS:

TOP RICHEST (((CAPITALISTS))) OF THE WORLD

>(((((THE ROTHSCHILDS))))))
>Bill Gates
>Warren Buffett
>Jeff Bezos
>(((Mark Zuckerberg)))
>(((Larry Ellison)))
>(((Michael Bloomberg)))
>(((2 Koch Bros.)))
>(((Larry Page)))
>(((Sergey Brin)))
>3 Walton Bros
>(((Sheldon Adelson)))
>(((Steve Ballmer)))
>2 Mars
>Phil Knight
>((((George Soros)))))
>(((Michael Dell))))

>>130871143
>>130872721
>>130874223
>>130879306
>he defends rich kikes
>for free

You're the ultimate cuck and bootlicker.

>>130870074
why shouldn't the rich eat the poor?

>>130878753
So you're admitting your statement was false, and then state they aren't playing by the rules so you shouldn't either.

When in reality, they most certainly do play by the rules, they just know them better than you do. They work within those rules and use them to their advantage, unlike poor people such as yourself who sit there and blame everything else on keeping you down.

Go ahead, go kill and steal from all the rich people.. What are you going to do when you've used up all of their wealth? Get a job? LOL, no, you'll probably starve, or get mad at farmers for having more land than you to grow their crops... you're pathetic.

Also, how does it feel knowing that my money invested is contributing more to society than your nothingness and angst? How does it feel to know that I not only contribute to society, but profit from it at the same time? How does it feel to know that I'm better than you?

>>130879671
Koch's are not jews

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>>130879797
They already are

>>130879797
Because, they're more useful in the fields growing our crops, or in the factories making our cars, or at a construction site building us a nice building.

>>130879671
Well you live in Mexico, you don't know what a decent quality of life is, you shouldn't be able to speak on such matters because of your envy.

>>130879797
because the rich are mostly jews

Way it's supposed to work is the rich and the poor work together in a social heirarchy of a nation for each other's mutual benefit as a people. Instead we have this phenomenon where the rich don't identify with the poor whatsoever, and are working against their interest. For example, bringing in multitudes of illegal immigrants to replace their labor

>>130880112

t. kike shill TRAITOR

>>130870074
Even if I had this money, my lifestyle would change very little... I might chew more tobacco and get some choice weiner implants, about it.

>>130879414
Yes, I saw it, and what does the number of people whose PPP-adjusted income rose above $1.90/day have to do with living standards, when everything that was once free is privatized, working hours grow longer, and one doesn't need cash to eat from what was once their rural family farm?

>>130879923
You're not. You're just a rebbit psychopath.

>>130874027
>Capitalism enables the smart, the cunning and the willing man
it enables the sociopaths to get to the top. Sam Walton literally backstabbed every business partner he had to get to the top, he fucked over COUNTLESS of people with his fucked up business practices. fucked up countless of small stores by buying them out with his aggressive business techniques. it's nothing short of fucked up, the kind of thing only worshiped in capitalism where cash is king no matter how you get it.

kys. you are the elite's wetdream: the idiot poor who genuinely feel for the "hard work" meme.

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>>130880316
>when everything that was once free is privatized
by "everything" you mean the empty shelves?

Go talk to a Chinese person, they'll straight up tell you what free markets have done for their people. I've had several chinese associates at my college, they're all super hard core capitalists and absolutely hate communism

>>130870074
Yeah the whole 99% movement failed. It isn't 2011 anymore. Turns out that the 99% weren't crazy about bums living out in their parks as a political protest. It doesn't really appeal to average human beings who enjoy public and private property rights.

>>130880421
and you're poor!

>>130880316

Chinese farms are around 1 hectacre: Miniscule compared to an American farm. False comparison.

>>130880534
They're too young to know and they're also future bourgeoisie so why wouldn't they lie?

>>130879310
how the fuck are the kikes with suites and cuban cigars beating each other off as they look at their stoke prices rise more productive than the people actually working?

>>130870074
You can do that now by voting with your money. People have absolutely no excuse anymore with how accessible everything is through the internet. No one is forcing anyone to shop at Walmart or Amazon.

There are some companies, like Google, that need some work done though.

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Wow so many protecting the 1%
This little bastard better pull he's finger out huh
And he can be just like Richard Branson

>>130880763
I think you have this problem where you can only win debates when there is a capitalism/communism dichotomy.
You're correct, capitalism is fucked up. But don't point out the mote in your neighbor's eye when you have a log in your own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnpTWKKWQ1o

>>130870074
>most if not all of these people inherited that wealth
Gates,Bezos,Slim,etc...all self made. Most millionaires in the USA? Self made. Usual arc is gen 1 gets rich gen 2 gets good education and gets slightly better than middle class jobs but spends like they're rich. Gen 3 squanders what's left. Gen 4 back to square one. OP is not only a faggot, but retarded as well.

>>130880491
>waa someone took advantage of the naivety of some people
>waa he wasn't honest!
>waa waa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

all the while his kids sit as billionaires and you sit there in tears about it being unfair.

didn't your parents tell you life isn't fair?

If it was, no one would get ahead.

hard work meme? it isn't a meme, you work hard until you have the capital or process in place for other people to take over to free up your time from it. Then use the capital from that business to invest in other opportunities.

>>130881007
Yeah m8, they were born with high IQ's, they made a lot of money.
Not everyone is so lucky

>>130879146
Not working as hard or making as many sacrifices still doesn't mean they should have their wealth taken from them

Get it through your head that we DONT inherently think that someone having more than they hard-earned is something that NEEDS rectifying

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>>130881004

I'd rather not be a slave to the state, thanks
>"BUT YOU HAVE THE COMMIE FLAG!!!"
I'm not a Stalinist, I wouldn't even go so far as to call myself a communist, more a libertarian socialist.
Also, heres what fascism got Germany:

>>130880972
that's a nigger
monkeys will never be rich

>>130880763
because that money that is invested and earning them that money, is paying those workers, its paying for the supplies, its paying for the logistics, its paying for the leases, its paying for the entire operation.

Go ahead, tell them their investment isn't welcome and see what happens to your hard working people.. They'll starve or go back to 1600s style farming.

There is nothing keeping your common laborer from investing into things themselves, other than their own shortsightedness and stupidity

>>130881342
Fascism got Germany a massive economic boom and a functional social order
Only got defeated when the entire world ganged up on them. Germany had by far the best tech, the best kill ratio of the war.

>>130870074
earth needs a server wipe

Rich is entirely relative. If you were born in any western country then you have more wealth than the bottom 99% of the world. You lucked out and were born in the US or western Europe. Does that mean you should have to give up your wealth for shitholes like Africa to have more? Blood was shed for your right to live and work freely in the west so you aren't expected to give it up. Same way, if blood and sweat was shed by your parents or their parents to ensure your success it doesn't make sense that you should have to give it up. You didn't earn the right to live in a country where you could be successful, but someone did and you aren't expected to give it up. Why should it be any different for inheritance?and you didn't earn the right to

>>130881457
the Germans had the red army outnumbered 2 to 1 in both infantry and air force at the beginning of Stalingrad.
They got out smarted and lost to some fucking farmers as (((the master race))).
Also, under Lenin life in Russia was good and Stalin looks objectively better than Hitler.

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Again I'd like to be clear.. am not talking about a few million... but horde multi millions or billions is fucking wrong.

>>130870074

90% of the top 1% are jewish. why are you so anti-semitic, nazi?

>>130870074
Do you understand economics, even a little bit?

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>>130882271
Donno

>>130882695
No explain

>>130882271
>>130882271
Im not an antisemite I am just collecting on Debts.

The State of Israel and Israeli Dispora are to pay me 10 quadrillion shekels, Gold Only.

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Maximum wealth per family should be limited to 100million ,we have min wage so let's have a max wage also

>>130872409
If you work and and become successful, wouldn't you give your kids a ton of money so they can get a better start in life? I didn't inherit shit from anyone ever, but I think it's okay to leave money for kids and future generations.

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>>130883733
Sure 100million, anything more is greed
Cmon man how can you justify this pic

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Rothchilds didn't work for anything

>>130883919
i agree, up to a limit is fine. but you know the Big Rich Families will get around that loophole, and any such law will be just about preventing other families from becoming rich enough to join the mega wealthy club.

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>>130883919
>>130884059
>boo hoo hoo muh poor people
>please, won't you give them free shit? Everyone has a right to your money, after all
you're sick.

>>130883551

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>>130884398
The civilised world was made on the backs of the poor and the working class.
Am not wanting to get rid of the rich but haveing muilt millions and billions isn't right

>>130870074
What you say isn't wrong, but misguided.

Yes, it is true that people who run large, international businesses are often quick to forget that they are still citizens who have a duty to their country and it's people. They should remember who it is that made them so successful.

But there is a reason why there is such a small percentage of people at the top: because these people are the best in their field. They are the best at managing people, money and resources. You can't have a civilisation without people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded. Even the most rudimentary and primitive civilisations have always had a leadership structure and systems of prestige. It is the natural order of things. This is a reality you cannot change.

No system is without it's flaws. Nothing mankind has devised thus far can really be called "superior."

>>130870074
>you didn't earn it, therefore you dont own it
>you cant inheret this money from your parents because its not yours
>therefore this land isnt your
>you arent your ancestors, you didnt fight for it, its not yours
>this country isnt yours

this is the real end game of this kind of rhetoric, it has nothing to do with worthless pieces of paper, but rather convincing you to give up your traditions, your birth right, you homeland. Rest assured, the 1% will keep their fortunes, but you will lose everything.

>>130874027
>if any of these starbucks sipping hipsters were Steve Jobs, they suddenly wouldn't be supporting redistribution of wealth anymore.
that's kind of the point, no?
of course no one would want their quality of life to go down for the benefit of others, and of course everyone wants to increase their quality of life at the detriment of others.
everyone wants a better quality of life.

the difference is simply that there are more people in the 99%.

the thing is, if redistribution of wealth meant better living standards for most americans in exchange for an extremely small group of people having their standard of living go from fucking incredible to breddy gud then yes, i would support it.
but in the end, all it really means is that everyone lives a shit life because there aren't enough resources to have not a single person out of 7+ billion people, be payed jack shit to shovel shit.

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>waaah muh poor starving niggers lets feed them so there can be more of them
>I hate capitalism it allows sociopaths to prosper unlike communism where emotionally detached murderers NEVER take power
>if only the government were powerful enough to artificially cap the finances of the most powerful people in the world, there's no way THAT could back fire and become a mechanism through which corrupt sociopathst consolidate their power

I fucking hate communists and marxists and socialists of every fucking stripe. I get violently angry when I think of them and I am a fucking ticking time bomb at this point because it's only a matter of time before I bump into one of you increasingly common red faggots smugly talking your toxic bullshit and stab you to death in a blind rage.

>>130870074
>isn't it time we redistribution of that moneys
die in a fire commie.

>>130870074
Whats really ridiculous is how jews horde the wealth on earth.

>>130870074
Redistribution of wealth doesn't work at all. 99% of people have no fucking clue what to do with wealth and they'll end up pissing it away instead of using it to build stuff or be productive

>>130870074
Im just waiting for a full blown ferguson level chimp out to occur on wall-street. Then we'll see it all fall apart, sweet justice.

>>130886118
it will never happen. or if it does it will be a (((planned riot))) staged for political purposes. the media has a tight leash on public opinion

>>130882802
What has government education done to you.

Price represent the value of goods/services to people. Profits occur when value of a good/service to people exceeds the cost to produce/offer it. Profits are a good thing, they mean wealth has been created (ex: turning $20,000 worth of raw materials and labor into a $30,000 car). Wealthy people have been able to produce/offer a good/service very cheaply and/or they can produce/offer a good/service people really like (even if that service is loaning or investing money), that good/service has resulted in lots of profits. If wealthy people produce profits and profits are good, therefore wealthy people are good.

I tried to keep it under 3 syllables, does that help?

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>>130887033
Thanks ,it all makes sense now!
>Immigrants are essential for U.S. economic growth — and we need more of them.

.its all about the numbers baby, so glad we have economists showing us poor dumb peps the way
https://www.minnpost.com/community-voices/2017/04/immigrants-are-essential-us-economic-growth-and-we-need-more-them

>>130885911
>Redistribution of wealth doesn't work at all. 99% of people have no fucking clue what to do with wealth and they'll end up pissing it away instead of using it to build stuff or be productive
Except every basic income study has shown that people save more, or use the money on essentials like clothes and rent, or in poorer countries, to start businesses.

>>130872409

And? Despite what marxists tell you, a family is a good thing. A good family will stay intact and do what it can to make sure future children have a good life. My grandpa left my dad with some things, my dad will leave me with things, I will leave my child with something and so on until we become a legacy.

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>>130870074

This whole thread is bullshit, have any of you people ever had your own small buisness?

Who exactly is supposed to put this whole 'share the wealth' thing into action? Western social-democrats? You mean the Trudeau types? People paid by Soros, a Rothschilds' front man?

It's the same with terrorism, they import hundreds of thousands of Muslim, let them radicalize themselves, sooner or later one of them blows himself up - bam, anti-terrorism laws, privacy abolished, 24/7 total surveillance of everything you, average law abiding citizen does.

It is indeed a fact that 1% are living gods owning us all as serfs, how can anyone think that they will cut their own assets? They will never pay more taxes, in fact large corporations and rich individuals know how to and can afford to avoid paying taxes at all.

Do you know who will have to 'share their wealth'? Small or medium firm, company, venture, buisness owner who operates in whichever service economy sector for which there is still demand left after the 1% moved all the manufacturing to 3rd world. So the 1% knock off their feet the potential competition and cripple even futher the white middle class.

>>130870074
I agree.

Jesus this redistribution bullshit is annoying. I hate to tell you this but there is a reason poor people are poor. It is not the fault of anyone but themselves, they put themselves in that situation and even worse is the fact they don't want to get out of it. The pathological altruism towards 3rd worlders is sickening because we have people wasting their time trying to give the poor free stuff at the expense of others. If you commies really cared about the poor, you would move to their country and build it up yourself instead of trying to get other people to do it for you.

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>>130870074
>isn't it time we redistribution of that moneys
Like you could ever actually do that today. In an age of internet banking, flight travel and the like. All any rich person would have to do is wire their fortune to Barbados and hop the next flight out of the country. You could never actually touch them. Not to mention redistribution of wealth does not work.

I'm not for "redistribution" but I find rich people sitting on piles of money and doing nothing with it counterproductive to national interests.

Ideally rich people would pool their resourced together and reinvest it into their communities.

Too bad that in this day and age it means financing dubious charity drives or inner city horseshit for no other purpose than to get tax breaks from their donations.

>>130890513
>wire their fortune
this will only work if the govt still allows foreign wire transfers. in the scenario of a socialist takeover, that probably wouldn't be allowed.

>>130890812
>socialist takeover
>In America
LOL

>>130890812
How quickly does a socialist take-over happen? Is it faster than a wire-transfer? Can you get these laws in place fast enough that the rich can't see the writing on the wall and zip their wealth away before it's signed in?

>>130893051
the process happens slowly, like boiling a frog. no one expects the worst but one day it happens and its too late to do anything. look at the UK

>>130892689
i fucking hope not, but all these Bernie fans are for it, much of the youth are for socialism of some sort, because 98% of them don't have money and want money, other peoples money, and they justify it in all sorts of ways.

it's coming, Trump will invoke a reactionary response of commie/socialist/faggots/feminists/etc almost as if he were designed for such an outcome

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>>130870074

>>130874027
Hey republicunt. Shame that guy didn't knock you off instead of the senators. By the way, where do you live? I have a few bullets for people.

Just.
Like.
You.

Your dead motherfucker. Living on borrowed time.

>>130888532
Look at you, changing the subject. But I suppose that if you had all your knowledge of economics from listening to most economists, you would be as economically illiterate as they are.

Not only are people who argue for immigration ignoring the fact that it is usually government subsidized, but they are also ignoring the huge moral issue it poses, that immigrants have no rights to public goods in another country, so each immigrant must have the consent of all the owners of the property to even be able to pay to use the property.

>>130870074
>https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50
Note that it doesn't name a SINGLE Rothschild, tells you something about validity of this "news".

Redistribution leads to collapse. Humans have different reproduction strategies. Some are r-selected, some are K-selected. In animal world r-selection is very common among rodents while K-selection is more common among big mammals like whales or elephants.

Humans obviously aren't whales and neither they are rats(so we aren't THAT extreme), the thing is - you can find people who bend slightly into direction of one of those strategies with ease.
By starting "redistribution" you're taking wealth from K-selected individuals and giving it to r-selected ones. Our economy and society runs solely because of population with predisposition towards K-selection. Population with predisposition towards r-selection are nowadays sitting on welfare, which enables their reproductive strategy(since in modern world r-selection simply doesn't cut it - children have to go to school instead of working and cost much more than they've used to for various reasons, as such it's simply not profitable anymore to shit out 10 kids as it was in the past). As such they start forming bigger and bigger part of the society, ultimately leading to its collapse.

Then the biggest problem is how the redistribution schemes end up like. No politician is going to come out and tell his voters that he's gonna raise taxes twice so he can afford welfare, no. He'll borrow from the central bank(didn't I say that articles calling for redistribution don't name Rothschilds?) and call it a day. When he raises taxes(to the lower level than he should to afford his schemes) he'll raise them not for the top 1%, but for the top 50%, while including as many loopholes as possible, so those people who earn enough money to make it profitable to avoid the tax can avoid it.

Death is the great equalizer, the estate tax is necessary for stopping aristocracy. Yet pol overwhelmingly supports Trump including his policy to end the estate tax.
Do you idiots stand to inherit more than 6 million dollars? Then you shouldn't have to worry about it.
>but if I work hard and become a billionaire I want to be able to pass that on to my kids.
You will not accumulate that much wealth, no matter how hard you work. To make that much money you either have to inherit it, or know the right people, or be the one in a million faggot that comes up with the next facebook. Luck, not hard work is the bigger factor.
>How can you tax someone for dying, it's cruel. Or they already payed income tax, you are for double taxation.
Nope. The person paying the tax is the one inheriting the massive fortune. They didn't work for that money. It's like winning the lottery, unearned income, tax that shit at 50%.
>But muh farms
Absolutely a problem that needs to be fixed, not a reason to repeal the estate tax completely.
Certainly, it's very difficult to sell off the farmland at the price that the IRS says that it is worth. I'm with you on this. If the IRS thinks it's worth 10k per acre then it should accept the land itself at that price and try to auction it off and see if they actually get that much for it. Same with business shares.

>>130894864
As such, every "redistribution scheme" that doesn't work as straight up "kill the rich and take their money" ends up with redistributing money from the middle class, to everybody else.

Now mind you that I don't consider all welfare pointless or wrong. Not exactly. I do consider it a tool that can be useful from time to time. The thing is that I also realize that trying to pretend that it's somehow going to make social inequality disappear is absolutely dumb and infantile.

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>>130870074
...you only need 2 million Indian rupees a year to be a 1%er.

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>>130870074
I didn't know Jeremy Corbyn posted on /pol/ how are you doing you utter sack of cum?

>>130881127
Persistence beats talent nearly every time. Somebody with talent (intelligence if you like) often learns early they don't have to work very hard to keep up and then develop a sense of entitlement that keeps them from performing commensurate with their potential. The talent withers with lack of use (except that they don't realize this) and then they are lazy, butthurt and not as sharp as they think they are. Of course there are outliers, but I'll bet on a 105 IQ that has a little patience and no quit in him against an entitled ADD 130 every time.

>>130870074
>wanting to create selective pressure against success
Have fun being Africa in a couple hundred years

>>130870074
I'm not going to tell you that there aren't some problems with extreme wealth inequality, obviously there are, but this attitude that someone else has a lot more than you so you can demand their wealth be seized is plain wrong, morally and logically.

I come from a third world country and I literally have thousands upon thousand of beggars in my city; It's routine to spot half naked dirty children rummaging through the garbage for any sort of edible food. There are a lot of homeless people in the cities who sleep on the pavement, every winter peak and every summer peak, you have tens of thousands of people dying simply because they don't have a roof over their head and can't afford any heating/ air conditioning.

My family's income easily puts us in the top 5% of our country. Yet our standard of living is just about the same as the US middle class, maybe even the US working class. From what I've read, there is near total food security for the poor in America, most of them have smartphones with high speed internet, most have air conditioning and housing, I don't really see why there is such a desperate need for wealth redistribution. You have all the basic necessities of your life met and yet you demand that the rich be stripped off a lot more. What bout all the starving diseased masses in the rest of the world? Maybe all us third worlders should say that wealth needs to redistributed globally because look, "Even the poor burgers have iPhones." It's a ridiculous idea and you know you'll never back it. Why then do you support the same thing against the rich in your country.

>>130895033
I would agree with your every point, especially with the 'what if i become billionaire' delusion, but still if any party in power prepares the 'redistribution' bill, in the end every postulate which would really hurt the 1% will be taken out of the packet.
>>130894864
>>130895175
>ends up with redistributing money from the middle class
That's what I tried to convey in my post >>130889668, but how could people who never had their own small firm understand that

>>130870165
You are slacking bot. Where is the archive for (((bbc)))?