right to carry

The rise in violent crime is the reason many States have passed right to carry laws.

>>130866571
>Crime rate was 7% higher than if the state didn't adopt the laws
>Data was derived based on hypothetical statistical models and not actual data
Worthless clickbait. Faggotry expected of an EU flag.

>>130866571
stanford can lick my sack and get plugged when i cum on their campus

>>130866889
This

Stanford Law Professor John Donohue’s analysis shows that violent crime in RTC states was estimated to be 13 to 15 percent higher – over a period of 10 years – than it would have been had the state not adopted the law.

>than it would have been
>implying

>>130866889
>right to carry laws.
no such thing, as there can be no law against me bearing arms in the first place

we live in america

ignore the fake laws

>>130866571
Cities with high concentration of black population has more crime. I wonder why

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>>130866571
YOU SAY 'NO' TO MY AR-15, YOU FUCKIN' PRICK! YOU AIN'T GONNA ABLE TO SAY 'NO' TO ME WHEN I GET TO YOUR HOUSE, YOU MOTHERFUCKER!!

The bill of rights is a list of negative rights, you freedom hating imbecile.

>>130866571
"doesn't work"

Yeah it does. It's not like the gun stops working because somebody else didn't see it.

>>130866571
Original paper:

http://www.nber.org.sci-hub.io/papers/w23510.pdf

>Le one post from this user

>>130867601
probably all the hate crimes and oppression they face

>>130866571
Do you suggest arming myself with a sunny disposition?

Rape and assault is always better when you make the effort to enjoy the experience, huh?

>>130869321
Maybe don't put yourself in a position to get raped if you don't want it, you degenerate whore.

>>130866571
>fake left wing study

>>130871570
Prove it.

>>130866571
Maybe because right to carry states have more niggers and mexicans in them.

>>130872687
California was used as a control for Texas, though.

>Take Texas, which passed RTC laws in 1996. Donohue’s comparison for Texas came from combining data from California – a non-RTC state – and Nebraska and Wisconsin, which hadn’t pass RTC laws at that time. By weighting the violent crime data from these three states for the period from 1986 to 1996, he produced a synthetic crime rate similar to Texas’ crime rate in the 10 years prior to adopting RTC laws.

>Donohue then projected the synthetic state’s crime rate for the next 10 years and compared it against Texas’ crime rate post-RTC passage. He performed the same analysis on the 33 states that enacted RTC laws over his data period and found a strikingly consistent picture.

>>130867600
Can we try to get the left to coin the term "fake laws"? Please?

>>130873803
We would need to find a good topic to insert it into.

>law abiding citizens carrying firearms magically cause criminals to commit crimes
LOL

>>130875192
>implying broadening the right to carry doesn't put guns into the hands of more criminals

>>130867436
no shit, what does this idiot donohue have a crystal ball or something? stanford should have its accreditation revoked if this is the caliber of work they're doing there.

>>130876703
>does this idiot donohue have a crystal ball or something?
Almost. He has the synthetic control method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_control_method

>>130866571
States with more blacks*

>>130866571

Good thing they have the right to carry and protect themselves.

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>>130866571

Commiefornia needs to be forcibly seceded from the rest of the US at bayonet point.

>>130878856
but what if they shoot back?

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>>130866571
i dont get what you mean by "it doesnt work", we want constitutional carry nationwide, so more right to carry states are working, violent crime is just a fucking sideshow

>>130866571
Haahahahhaahhaahaha Ok
T state with the highest gun ownership per capita and lowest crime

>>130879158
>California
>having guns

AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
With exception to the niggers and spics killing each other California ain't got shit.

>>130867436
Which is just straight up bs. It's no mere coincidence that from the early 90's to late 00's heaps of states started issuing them at the same time violent crime started to plummet from a previously flat trend. I'm not finished the read yet, do they even mention that or are they dodging inconvenient facts to their hypothesis?

> “There is not even the slightest hint in the data that RTC laws reduce overall violent crime,” Donohue stated

Wow, that's rich.

>>130879371

I've never seen so much autism in one single picture

>>130866571
You think I give a fuck what Stanford University has to say about right to carry?

Watch me keep doing it, bitch.

Fuck EU nigger lovin' sand spics.

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>>130866571
>implying RTC laws aren't the reaction instead of the cause
Take your epic \pol btfo thread and fuck off

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>>130880673
problem?

>>130875056
Auto law

Once you agree your 'car' is a 'motor vehicle' you are subject to be held to commercial standards and require a license.

you can 'travel' in your 'car' with no license or permit. it's your property. take it anywhere and don't follow the DMV's fake deceptive laws

https://wearechange.org/u-s-supreme-court-says-no-license-necessary-to-drive-automobile-on-public-highwaysstreets/

>>130866571
>if you have a right to carry you become a crazy guy murdering at every chance

>>130880873
Has anyone ever tried just strapping it to the roof?

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>the right to carry doesn't work - Moshe Shekelstein

Gotcha

>>130880953
what are you talking about?

>>130880836
>lighter
>nothing to light
cool

>>130881143
there's a walmart every couple blocks, my man.

>>130879371
AHAHAHAHA IS THAT A TACTICAL EDC FIDGET SPINNER?

You should spin that handgun around your finger instead you fuckin' geek.

>>130881099
Well if you live in an open carry state, then if it's outside of the vehicle then that wouldn't require a CCW, right?

>>130880873
/pol/ may not understand, but this REALLY is a 'fake law' so let me explain.

the supreme court says you can drive your car whenever and wherever you want. they can't stop you from using your property on the roads.

the DMV invented new laws concerning 'motor vehicles' so the state tricks you in the moment to agreeing you are driving a motor vehicle, so they can get you in trouble for commercial laws. like for taxis, delivery, mailmen, etc.

hope that made sense

>>130867601
>Cities with high concentration of black population has more crime. I wonder why

because retarded liberals outlawed their favorite hobby cockfighting

>>130879371
You don't carry that

>>130881391
there's no such thing as an open carry state. that's a fake law that would be unconstitutional to follow.

all land in this country allows its free men to bear arms.

>>130879371

That pooor Glock...

If you're going to do a red dot, don't do it the poorfag way, get an RMR cut, faggot.

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>>130866571
>a liberal college says guns aren't useful

Opinion disregarded.

>>130881480
I think there is such a thing as an open carry state. My state law confirms you can open carry.

>>130866571
Even if that study were true, it wouldn't matter. Rights are rights regardless of potential negatives associated with them. Would you say free speech doesn't "work" just because people use it to shitpost on a Siamese fish sauce fermenting forum?

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>>130881428
i do sometimes, mostly carry this

>>130881400

Yes let me know how this one works out for you Mr. Amibeing Detained.

Spend $30,000+ on attorneys fees arguing through several levels of courts vs. get a $25 fuckin drivers license. Hmmm.

>>130881621
they don't have to confirm it. that's the deception. you could always do it.

>>130866571
You know wonderful cities like Chicago banned guns without permits (which you had to be a politician to get), and we both know how wonderfully safe that city is. Least the supreme court overruled that, so at least you can legally protect yourself from thugs now.

>>130881400

Yeah, I'm sure fake laws is gonna go over real well with the state police officers paid by the state to enforce these laws. Tell me how it turns our for you.

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>>130866571
imagine for a second if someone shot the author in the face.

https://youtu.be/ILSiVO3dDYg

>>130881669
wrong. I have the supreme court case number I can share with the officer. The exact precedent. This isn't anything nebulous, it is fact set forth by the supreme court.

>>130881690
Just like the Constitution confirms we have a right to bear arms, my state confirms we can open carry.

Perfect? No, but it's the same idea.

>>130881739
My car is not registered with the DMV because I am a free man.

>>130866571
Whelp i guess bill nye better get on the case of having our rights ammended.

>>130881621
They don't have the authority to confirm or deny your right to carry.

>>130879371
wow kill yourself

>>130881814
It's nice to have a document, but be careful what you worship.

Your rights are immaterial, they do not exist on this plane. You seize them with might and force of will.

>>130881669
>Spend $30,000+ on attorneys fees arguing through several levels of courts vs. get a $25 fuckin drivers license. Hmmm.

if more people had balls nobody would have to pay anything, they would shut down the DMV and all those miserable people who work there would feel much better about themselves being jobless

>>130881849
>They don't have the authority to confirm or deny your right to carry.
That's a matter of debate. I'm just saying my state has it codified in state law confirming that we can.

>>130881849
>They don't have the authority to confirm or deny your right to carry.

they are likely to illegally fuck with you about it

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>>130881909
why?

>>130866571
What kind of fucking faggot carries cross draw? This isn't a detective comic or a western movie. Fuck off with that shit. I refuse to click your link because your image is garbage and is probably filled to the brim with Brady Bunch Marxist-Jewish propaganda.

>>130881652
What does that piece on the end of the barrel do? I thought supressors and revolvers didn't play nice together

>>130882078
It's stanford, man. That's nigger shit.

>>130881939
Hope it doesn't come to that mate.

Hope and pray.

>>130882049
Is that...Is that a rape whistle on your keys?

>>130882156
I would argue that it has already begun.

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>>130882089
jew propaganda

>>130882167
no, its the key to my musically locked apartment

>>130882167

looks like a flute. But either way it will be stopping any sex from happening.

>>130881780

And the officer can still cite you for anything he wants dude, no one gives a fuck about your magic number.

You're gonna go to court, and you're gone get convicted, and you can take time off work and waste all your time appealing to higher and higher courts, or you can stfu and pay the god damn ticket.

Don't you think that if there were some magic precedent that rendered tickets void that every lawyer in the country would be foaming at the mouth waiting to charge everyone $500 to give them the "Magic number" too and get them off? Or are you really so autistic that you think you're the only one who has figured this out in America.

This sovereign citizen shit is hilarious, I literally fall asleep sometimes to videos of these idiots getting rocked by cops who don't have time to play roadside lawyer.

>>130882318
I've been stopped. Nothing happens.

I have got a warning.

>>130866571
Works well enough here in Maine. Thing is the nigger population is small, that might have something to do with it.

>>130882222
checking four times over.

If it gets there, then it gets there.

>>130881953
If more people had balls 99% of our problems in society would be resolved already instead of people waiting on daddy government to solve their issues for them.

>>130882460
so what's your premise. no one will ever have balls?

sounds like a nihilist post. (useless) so tell me why I should care?

>>130882317
10/10

>>130881143
It's too light themselves on fire for being such a huge faggot.

>>130882399
Probably because the cop didn't want to deal with your autistic screeching.

Let me get this straight, you drive with no registration at all (how did you get plates then), no drivers license, and assuming no insurance because why would you have that if you don't have anything else, and when you get pulled over the cop simply gives you a warning?

This is a LARP from some kid who probably doesn't even have a DL cause he failed the DMV test three times and then went home and read more crackpot sovereign citizen rambling.

You're an idiot dude. If this were true, no one would pay registration, no one would pay their traffic tickets. I love how you honestly think you are so intelligent that you've figured out a law that thousands of lawyers before you must have just simply overlooked.

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>>130882552
>too

>>130882836
no plates

>>130882836
warning was for not signalling. I claimed I did and he just didn't see it. So I got a warning.

>>130882526

My premise is that convincing 200+ million people to wage war against the DMV is a lot bigger task than just paying your fucking registration like a neurotypical person.

"If we could just find water on another planet then we could ship it back here and not even have to worry about water!" Yes, true, but instead let's focus on the water we can actually see, you fucking space cadet.

>>130883109
I don't expect it. I'm smart so I do have a vision for the future of the police state, but it's not that.

>>130883109
also I don't believe in space. you called me neurotypical, but then you use a normie metaphor. get with it.

>>130883109
DMV isn't it. It's the state. Who holds title to the vehicle?

I thought it was supposed to be common understanding that if you just put on makeshift plates indicating "private vehicle" that everybody understands what that means, just like if you need to drive a farm vehicle down the road with proper markings.

>>130882318
Californians have billboards that advertise for people to call for a free consultation to get rid of their ticket instead of paying any money, exactly what the guy is talking about. You're a moron

>>130883273
>I don't believe in space.

You win.

>>130881400

Is /pol/ letting this fucking shill slide this topic? Holy shit.

SAGE

>>130883352
All I'm saying is there are a lot of fake laws that people allow themselves to be bullied into following.

These are deceptions, and if you're smart you can navigate through them.

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>>130866571
>Rise in Violent Crime
>Violent Crime
>never stated that it was violent gun crimes, never taken into account that niggers and illegals are moving into those states.

Yeah...no....

>>130880873
That website conveniently leaves out the part of the quote where the supreme court then goes on to say that right to travel may be regulated and licensed
This is part of what was left out.

>The regulation of the exercise of the right to drive a private automobile on the streets of the city may be accomplished in part by the city by granting, refusing, and revoking, under rules of general application, permits to drive an automobile on its streets

So tell me why do you listen to these sovereign citizen idiots who always misinterpret and leave out parts of laws and court decisions? There is no fake law the state and local authorities made up to create DLs the Supreme Court already declared DLs legal in the same statement you crazy fucks think makes them illegal.

>>130867110
Spbp.

>>130866571
Harvard vs. Stanford I guess
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

stanford couldnt make and operating system but linus tovalds could
berkeley semi made one but then freebsd came from its roots
rememebr schools are government controlled and fake news
missouri has conceal carry and 10% gun crime of UK!

>>130866571
Wow. It's like the whole constitution was wrong ??

>>130884224
it's a fake law and you left out the part where you have to endanger someone to have your rights revoked

that's called jail.

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>>130866571

I wonder who paid for that "study".

>>130884921
The supreme court says this right can be revoked by the state as they allowed the state to regulate the exercise of this right. So if you lose your license or don't get one you don't get to use your vehicle on public property if the state says you cant.
So if you want to change that in the eyes of the law you will have to get the case to go to the supreme court again and have them not throw it out cause they already made a decision allowing the states to regulate it with a license. your argument has no legal basis in the united states as the supreme court says so

>>130886179
Why did the Supreme Court hear this case? What was so important about it?

>>130866571
FAKE NEWS

>>130886179
sorry you are wrong. your exceptions are just that. exceptions for felons and people who get in trouble with the law.

It would be very easy to prove that RTC increases the homicide rate. Just find a state that has a public database of concealed carry licensees (like Tennessee) and cross-reference that with court records of people convicted of firearms homicides. Then compare that figure to the general public's rate.

The fact that they *AREN'T* doing this, and are instead using hypotheticals and models, is a a tacit admission that this whole thing is bullshit. The data are there, these liberals just don't want tot use it because it wouldn't give them the results they are looking for.

>>130876469
>implying criminals give a shit about breaking the law

>>130879371
Nice sounding rod faggot.

>>130866571
(((John Donohue))) must be a trade name or legally changed

>>130866571
>flag
Nice try, Schlomo

Also
>believing a (((Stanford))) """""study""""" that doesn't account for presence of googles and tacos in states

>>130886643
>Just find a state that has a public database of concealed carry licensees (like Tennessee) and cross-reference that with court records of people convicted of firearms homicides. Then compare that figure to the general public's rate
Does anyone here know how do do that efficiently? Even just link me some resources on how to do it myself and I'll post results.

>>130866571
>http://news.stanford.edu/2017/06/21/violent-crime-increases-right-carry-states/
Oh look, Fake Schools are joining the Fake news

>>130886932
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Donohue_III

>>130886755
>implying making the markers of criminal activity legal does anything but make life more convenient for criminals

>>130873803
>>130875056
another redpilled fake law:

anti dueling laws

dueling is still legal, you just have to happen to find yourself in a situation where you're forced to defend yourself with a gun (IE a duel)

>>130882089
It isn't completely useless, it's just diminishing returns. also
>shooting subsonic out of a revolver
cmon nigga

>>130889222
truth from trips

>>130887769
It's BS anyway, the research has already been done and people with valid CCLs commit crime of all kinds at a significantly lower rate than the rest of the public. Even after taking constitutional carry into consideration. It's almost like criminals don't follow laws.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2814691

>>130890968
when good people stop following fake laws, we will be free.

>>130890968
I would like to put together a proper rebuttal to the study when I'm less sleep deprived.

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>>130866571
>stanford says

>>130890968
>>130891803
Fuckin this cunts. People have to be shown that cops are bigger criminals & much scarrier than carriers.

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>>130866571

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>>130866571
the funny thing is anti gunners will use this to confirm their own bias rather than actually questioning the study/statistic. In summation statistics can be made to show whatever it is that you want to prove or disapprove.

>>130894005
That's actually exactly how the article came to my attention.

>>130894426
Remember folks you don't need guns to defend yourself. Correlation is not causation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w

>>130892426
>This work was supported by Stanford Law School. The paper’s co-authors are Abhay Aneja, a law student at Stanford and a graduate student in economics at the University of California, Berkeley, and Kyle Weber, a graduate student in economics at Columbia University.

>>130895125
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
Holy fucking shit, I can't believe I haven't seen this before.

>>130895629
Don't forget this guy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Donohue_III

>>130866571
>stanford says the right to carry doesnt work
Who gives a fuck what some libshits said? They can't do a fucking thing about it anyways.

>>130897844
>They can't do a fucking thing about it anyways.
That's where you're wrong, kiddo. The timing of this hastily-written paper was very intentional:
>The debate over RTC laws comes at a crucial time for the state of California, which in April was sued by the National Rifle Association, challenging state gun control laws.
>Because the heart of the case is whether there is a constitutional right to carry a gun, which would make RTC laws moot, Donohue said there is a high likelihood the case will ultimately be resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court. His paper has been included in the court filings in federal district court.

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>>130896674
its a great video.

>>130897727
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>130866571
>Donohue cites a 2013 report from the National Crime Victimization Survey that showed in 99.2 percent of the violent attacks in the United States, no gun is ever used defensively – despite the nearly 300 million guns in circulation in the country today.

how

>>130881046
hah

>>130898792

Most violent attacks happen in cities with strict gun laws, I assume.

>>130881046
b-but muh synthetic control method!

>>130899603
people living in cities tend to be more depress most of the time. The reasoning behind this is because there is no community (social community) and it's over crowd population.

>>130901090
The Human Zoo

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>>130882294
Why is everyone complaining that thing is sexy.

>>130867110
inb4 the statistical model is

if has_right_to_carry then crime_rate = crime_rate * 1.07

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>>130866571
>>130868378
Boosting the original paper. It's on a Sci-Hub, so you won't be giving Stanford any ad revenue or anything.

>>130898792
I don't know where the fuck they're getting that information, I haven't been able to find it in the cited sources.

>>130869239
please explain?

>>130881046

Protip for niggers:

Don't try to rob a gun store....

>>130902623
?

>>130903716
I would love see their methodology for this.

>>130904631
Another pro tip, don't duel wield.

>>130866571
Isn't the authoritative book "more guns less crime"? Pretty sure the correlation is inverted.

Which should be obvious to anyone. Lot more crime in Chicago and Baltimore than in rural Texas...

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>>130904888
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Human_Zoo_(book)

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I suppose it would be politically incorrect for them to do a study of gun crime's relation to the population of niggers... That IS the real problem.

>>130905151
Ah, I almost forgot about this books existence.

>>130866571
Too bad, it's our right.

>>130866571
Stanford is wrong....

i don't trust anything that comes out of any of the Libcuck colleges

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>>130904994
Here's the original article, linked on sci-hub so you don't have to pay Stanford:

http://sci-hub.io/downloads/7b37/[email protected]@generic-5CA09120E0FD.pdf

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>>130905407
too bad your rights can be repeal

>>130905518
Thanks

>>130866571
"doesn't work"

Well thanks for the laugh anyway...

If you don't have guns as a U.S. citizen then you shouldn't be on /pol/ for one and second you shouldn't be voting or reading any articles other than why you're such a faggot.

>>130884224
sounds like, outside the jurisdiction of a city, they don't actually need a drivers' license to drive around.

>>130905518
>http://sci-hub.io/downloads/7b37/[email protected]@generic-5CA09120E0FD.pdf

Thanks for posting the actual paper so we don't have to listen to MSM trying to interpret it.

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>>130905427
>Stanford is wrong
Prove it, cuck.

>>130866571
I don't give a shit what them faggots have to say

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>>130898792
>in 99.2 percent of the violent attacks in the United States, no gun is ever used defensively
>if a potential attacker knows someone has a gun they probably won't start shit with them

What a surprise!

>>130866571
The only way to stop this shit is to go drag them out of their homes and hang them on the street corner for treason against The USA.

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SHALL

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>>130906694
tfw my meme socal county is included for once

>>130879371
I remember you posting that garbage on /k/ and being butthurt when everyone laughed at you having paid hundreds of dollars for that terrible kydex holster.
And all that aside anyone who edc's a pistol with an optic is a huge faggot

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>>130905919

I quickly looked over the paper and it appears to be a bunch of arm waving bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Donohue_III

http://www.nber.org/authors/abhay_aneja

http://www.nber.org/authors/kyle_weber

All anti-gun shills... They just wrote this up to justify Bloomberg giving them more money.

>>130881143
You know there's many pills you can freebase right?

>>130905919
>>130905674
When you see a research paper behind a paywall, you can usually find a liberated copy on Sci-Hub.

>>130906960
Heavenly braps

>>130906960
please tell me that's a trap?

>>130909321
I fucking wish she had a rod.

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>>130909793
>tfw when they actually have a rod bigger than mine

>>130866571

>Statistical view

>Gun proliferation makes crime go up because stupid nig and white trash liberal poorfags shoot each other in alleys more.

My view

>Strong intelligent responsible person makes crime go down around me by not allowing stupid nig or white trash liberal poorfags to ever dictate the circumstances of me or my family.

Communal statistics BTFO in favor of individual rights.

>>130866571
>stanford
>surprise! Fat people like food!

>>130910100
>checks flag

it appears so.

>>130910388
Can you even check your own rod with your obese gut hanging in the way?

>>130906900
NUT

>>130912777
INSIDE

TRAPS

AND

MAKE TRAP BABIES

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>>130866571

>Stanford
>Law Professor
>Failed Democrat senate nomination

Methinks someone might hold a bias.

>bars on your windows increase crime
>ice cream purchases increase temperature
>filling your car increases driving
>calling a plumber increases the chance that your pipes are broken

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>>130866571

Reminder that the 2nd amendment applies to the federal government, not to states. Yes, this is true. Take a basic political science 100 class to learn about it in detail.

>>130880873
so what do you do when you get pulled over and the cop hands you a ticket for driving w/o license?
Go to court and cite court cases?

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aren't a majority of mass shootings and terrorist attacks in the us done in gun free zones?

>>130921976
>states can shut down your free speech

SEEMS LEGIT,

Get this anon a law degree, pronto

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>>130866571

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>>130895629
>when one shit tier source just isn't enough

>>130881046
SMOKE.DAT.NIG.EXE

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bump

>>130866571
appeal to authority the thread

why are europoor (other than some brits like molymeme) bad at critical thinking?

The ringt to carry is just a distraction. If you faggots try to ban my firearms, I'll be pissed.

>>130866571
Come and take it.
See what happens.
Now go fuck yourself.

>>130867650
I want a classic A1 with the triangle handgaurds like that.

>>130881621
Yeah, it's called THE CONSTITUTION.

>>130866571
I'm guessing you have never found yourself in the ghetto, in a position that you had to pull on some (white) niggr

>>130868478
>Le

KYS

>>130882836
You don't need a driver's license or plates to drive on interstate or us highways. We have a right to travel for interstate commerce. State, county, and city roads, you need plates and driver's license.
But you'll get pulled over and hasseled for sure.

>>130880836
The Deagle is a .357 Magnum model. A large frame revolver in .357 would be lighter and more practical. Though that's relative.

The only rights man has are the ones he is willing to proactivley kill others not to protect, but to earn.

>>130866571
Stanford can suck muh dick.

>>130932777
>KYS
Don't you know that's illegal now goy?

>>130866571
It doesn't matter if it does or doesn't work.
It's about being ALLOWED to!

>>130884596
And 99% of our gun crime should actually be reclassified as nigger crimer.

>>130866571
I guess Philandro Castile deserved to die after all... He was a danger to society.

>>130933908
>AYO I GOTSA LICENSE DAT MEANS DA POPO MAH BITCH YO
>AYYYYY POLISMAN SAY DON'T PULL IT OUT??? 2BAD NIGGA I GOTSA LMAO *sucks teeth*
He didn't deserve to die, but his arrogance made it justified.

>>130866571
If you carry that way it certainly doesn't work, get a decent holster.

>>130934168
>>AYO I GOTSA LICENSE DAT MEANS DA POPO MAH BITCH YO
>>AYYYYY POLISMAN SAY DON'T PULL IT OUT??? 2BAD NIGGA I GOTSA LMAO *sucks teeth*
>He didn't deserve to die, but his arrogance made it justified.


First name

David
Ida
Nora
David
Union

Last name

Nora
Union
Frank
Frank
Ida
Nora

Male Black, age 38, wearing black pants white shirt black hooded sweater black hat dreadlocks, robbery offender

>>130889808
>clearly doesn't know how revolvers work
>clearly doesn't know how suppressors work

Unless it is a gas sealed revolver, there is still the discharge from the cylinder gap and that alone completely negates a suppressor on a revolver.

If you are going for recoil control, you are better off using a revolver with a 4-8" barrel as solid steel under barrel lugs weigh more than a 75% hollow aluminum tube.

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>>130866571
>right to carry
I find it amusing that anyone willing to pull out a gun and shoot someone would need permission to carry the gun before using it. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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>>130866571

there are more people that pull guns on scumbags in the US every year than criminals during a crime and look at the numbers of homicides.

>>130935371
Me gusta!!

>>130879371
That's a lot of shit taste for one picture.

>>130866571
Exposed crossdraw IWB.
>shamefurdispray.jpg

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>>130933285
ok

>>130905583
Just try it, pal.

>>130866571
>Liberal campus
>Hypothetical model
>no real-world equivalent to back it up

The jokes write themselves, faggot

>>130939544
Kek, how are those states rights treating you, confederatefag?

>>130879371
What on earth could you possibly need an optic on a glock for?

Are you thinking you'll be in a fire fight against a rifle from 60+ yards?
I can still fast point-shoot at that distance and have over 90% on.

>>130939829
I'm a Brazilian confederate.

>>130867110
>Data was derived based on hypothetical statistical models and not actual data

(((Stanford)))

>>130866571
>stanford says

Isn't that the (((university)) to which you can apply with "black lives matter" written 100 times and be accepted?

Yeah, they're fucking relevant.

>>130940591
>Yeah, they're fucking relevant.
Unfortunately, they are. See:
>>130898154

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>>130939850
A small optic with a dot reduces the chance of a less trained civilian missing his shots at a mass murderer walking down the street with free reign with an illegally obtained weapon. Also most cases where gun defense is drawn is at night and you cant always see your sights at night. Optics also give you faster aim time and clearer sight picture.

This "study" OP is referring to is just biast left wing paid "studies". It doesnt work that way in the real world and has been proven that gun ban is bullshit. Just look at DC, chicago, and commiefornia. Theyre a joke. The only reason cartels dont pull that shit their shit in the USA is because if the cops get taken out you got armed civilians. Every door they kick in will have a gun behind it and will buy time until the US Marine Corps arrive to wipe them off the planet..WITH GUNS.

>pic related. Its DC . 500 children go missing at an alarming rate and dc police respond with "just stay inside lol"

>>130896674
Seen this before.

If only every good man had such will, such tenacity, such dedication to the righteous defense of life, there would be almost no violent criminals.
We would have very few prisons.
Our crime rate would be miniscule.

Remember, when you allow a violent crimi n AL to victimize you and escape:
>They will do it again
>They will victimize others
>You chose to be unprepared
>You chose to let many others be terribly victimized
>you suffer a level of culpability for those they harm, those they rape, those they kill, and the lifetime of misery they bring upon countless others

Do what needs done to protect yourself and your community.

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>>130939850
Every door they kick in >might have
Is what i meant.

Also pic related for OP
>paris 2015
>gun free country
>198 dead

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I can't wait for Europe to go full communist dictatorship. I'll be watching from the comfort of my home, eating popcorn and cleaning my guns while you're gutted for being an infidel.

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>>130940994
>glorified evergreen

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>>130940994

>>130941435
Yea, brown people suck.

>>130941632
I wish they all got the Trayvon Martin treatment.

All criminals should die.

>>130866571
It's one of them "European" flags who doesn't understand the reason concealed carry permits were created for.

>>130881652
I remember you from /k/

Dildo supressor guy.

What is that rod for?

>>130866571
That's fucking retarded. States push right to carry laws because they live around criminal niggers. Licensed people aren't the ones committing crimes.

>>130866571
>live in nh
>walk around with my gun all day everyday just because I can
>seen other people do the same
>never seen a shootout
>its not like the fucking wild west
>never been assaulted or had to pull out my gun in self defense
>pray I never have to, but not blind to the fact that I can't see the future

Why are liberals so fucking delusional? Also, I am from NH and we're mostly white and little violent crime. So that helps.

>>130866571
who cares what stanford thinks? i mean really. unless it's on hard science, i pay zero attention to assertions made by any university. these are a bunch of people whom are overly impressed with themselves.

>>130895629
>Abhay Aneja
He also went to Wake Forest University school for *Political Science*.
>We have the means and motive.
| |
V
http://myfox8.com/2017/01/16/wake-forest-students-write-dear-donald-trump-supporters-letters/

>>130873617
>he produced a synthetic crime rate
Libshits making up statistics again and their acolytes blindly following.
The "science" behind this bullshit is laughable at best, criminal at worst.

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>>130941435
That must be fake. Paris is gun free zone.

>>130866571
>violent-crime-increases-right-carry-states
Uh .... I bet Stanford only checked the numbers.
But not the causation. I find it plausible that states with rising crime rates allow their citizens to carry guns to protect themselves. As the government seems unable to provide that service.

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>>130944315
Also right to carry states tend to have certain population groups with higher crime