/left/ - Leftism General

where did your parents go wrong?

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>>130851098
Daily reminder that there has never been a successful socialist society.

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>>130851098
a jew..

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>>130851379
he only had a mommy growing up

>worshipping a kike bum
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.

https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis

>>130851098
go back to /leftypol/, faggot

>>130851379
He had never worked in his life. He believes milk is created inside the refrigerator.
Please GTFO.

Why don't you create a 1000 employees company and then transfer ownership to the employees. Do your part. go now, go to create the utopia, go, go now, there's no time to loose...

>>130852150

why? this is not rightypol

>>130851098
>(Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)
nigga just buy your companies stock
And how does this work when the place you work for is extremely huge?

>>130851098
>there is no state
aka capitalism unleashed
back to industrial revolution conditions we go!

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>>130851098
king of the muddle heads

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Idjit.

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There's also this but you get the point.

>>130851098
Joseph Stalin
Mao Zedong
Fidel Castro

These three names are all you need to see why Communism/Marxism does not, cannot, and will not work.

The first two killed tons of people in the name of Communism. They both knew that Communism was not a system that worked with people naturally, so they did things to make it work, which meant killing tons of people for literally any reason that might be used to discredit or disavow Communism. Combined, both of these men (more like monsters) killed close to 100 million people in the 20th Century, that is more than Hitler killed during the Holocaust. Let that sink in.

Fidel Castro is noted here because of the shit he did to people in the name of Communism. He took land, pillaged homes, raped people, and killed those who disagreed, stood in opposition, or were just in his way. Cuba is an awful country that could have been a bustling and advanced nation if not for the effects of Communism and most of the people are FLEEING the country to go some place better (ie: America). No one wants to live in Cuba but most don't have a choice.

While no system is perfect (capitalism is included in this), anything is a far better alternative than Communism and anything that may lead to Communism. Marxist are complete idiots that have no clue what they are speaking about and most of them that tell you "It wasn't tried!" or "It wasn't done the right way!" are the epitome of arrogance and have absolutely no understanding of human nature, refuse to accept humanity as a whole, live in a dream world where everything just miraculously works, and will be the first people taken to a back room blindfolded/muffled before being shot by Communists since their usefulness at that point would be over.

Sage and hide these threads. I'd almost go as far as saying report them as well since there are nothing but lies that come from these types of people because they've never actually lived under the rule of Communism itself. Better dead than Red.

>>130851098
Okay internationalist fag got. Why is so much attention paid to taking down industrial capitalists, and nearly none to taking down financial capitalists? Because your movement is a red herring. Read Feder and stop being a kike lover. Also grow some balls and stand up for your people.

>>130851098
>The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs

who defines what those needs are?
what happens when someone takes more than what they need?
who's going to enforce the rule that you can only take what you need?

if your answer to all those questions are "the people", then you're more delusional then i thought.

sage

>>130853912

>Hitler death count 12 million

It was 60 million you antisemitic redneck white racist piece of shit

Communism can work but It needs white unity. Communism is by far the perfect ideology for a society of intelligent, educated, hardworking people with Christian values. People who are intrinsically motivated to help thy neighbour and serve their community. The only race who understands these values are whites. White people will help each other for no material gain, they understand that there is strength in unity. Collectivisation makes us all stronger, in evolutionary terms 5 people are more likely to survive a lion attack than an individual. It is in our self interest as the white race to form strong bonds against other forces. Other races simply do not understand this advantage and are in constant conflict with themselves and others. Capitalism's only true benefit is it keeps these non-whites in line and is a motivation for socially isolated white individuals to serve society as a worker. In a communal communist society made of only whites with strong ties, communism will allow us to advance beyond our wildest dreams. All we gotta do is get rid of the mudslimes and kikes.

Kill all commies

>>130851975
>Python
>Python
>calculus
>linear algebra
>empirical
>get it? Empirical lol

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>>130851098
Helicopter yourself parasite

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>>130855248

What a bunch of faggotry.

Change your flag, c0nt.

>>130851098
Your ignorance will be the death of the west. And without the west this world is truly doomed to instinction.

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>>130855572

>>130855819
make me you jew loving faggot

>>130851098
Will you genocide us like you did to the Russian people?

Will we have to starve too so that a Jewish elite can become richer?

Capitalism an communism are two sides of the same coin. They were created to enrich a small international elite. If you want to exit the pan you can fall right into the fire goyim.

There is a reason you will find kikes in both communism and capitalism. They always fund both sides if you can afford it. It's just game theory.

Wake the fuck up and think for your fucking selves.

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>when commies try to debate outside their hugbox

>>130856268
It's 2 am here.
Gonna go sleep.
Unironically kys.

What in the name o' Davy Jones' locker did ye just bark at me, ye scurvy bilgerat? I'll 'ave ye know I be the meanest cutthroat ever to sail the seven seas, and I've led numerous raids on cargo vessels, and repelled over 300 invaders. I be trained in hit-and-run pillagin' and be the deadliest with a pistol out o' all the captains on the high seas. Ye be nothin' to me but another source o' loot. I'll 'ave yer guts for garters and keel haul ye like never been done before, hear me true. Ye think ye can hide behind yer newfangled contraption? Think twice on that, scallywag. As we parley I be contactin' my secret network o' pirates across the sea and yer port is bein' tracked right now so ye better prepare for the typhoon, scurvy knave. The type o' monsoon that'll wipe ye clear off the four corners o' the map. Ye're sharkbait, bucko. I can sail anywhere, in any waters, and can kill ye in o'er seven hundred ways, and that be just with me hook and fist. Not only do I be top o' the line with a cutlass, but I 'ave an entire swashbucklin' fleet at me beck and call and I'll damned sure use it all to wipe yer limey arse clean off the edge o' the world, ye bilge suckin' dog. If only ye had the foresight to see what devilish wrath yer jibe was about to incur, ye might have belayed that last remark. But ye couldn't, ye didn't, and now ye'll pay the ultimate toll, ye brazen buffoon. Yar, I'll unleash a torrent o' fury all over ye and ye'll drown in the depths o' it after walkin' the plank! Dead men tell no tales.

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>>130856236

Remove your existence, delusional brat.

Change your flag to natbol, you disgrace.

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>>130856439

Shit you are right!

You showed us! :'///

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>>130854725
What?

>>130856677
The only successful socialist like countries were European nations. However given the unending influx of refugees the native population must continuously raise taxes until collapse.

>>130856982
Can some shop a close up of this bitches face?

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>>130856677
nice try marx cuck

suck a nigger dick while you advocate for the replacement of a race that can make communism actually possible.

oh fug I am a communist now

>>130851098
>personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.
all of those things can be used to create economic value

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>>130857213
photoshop broke

>>130851098
Shalom!

What are /left/s thoughts on Judaism, lads? Is communism a friend to the chosen?

>>130851098


Fascist here. Debate me.

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>>130857069

Because the South American ones were always under US threat (both economic and political).

Because most Asian countries were hellholes to begin with, or had to suffer because of US involvement.

Also, Burkina Faso was betrayed.

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>>130854725

> 60 million

> Wikipedia

> Sidebar

> Deaths 6,000,000–11,000,000

This nigga.

>>130857506
Obviously

When the Jew Bolsheviks took over Russia they burned all the churches but left all the Synagogues

>>130856941
Respond to >>130856268 you kike, I'll read in the morning.

>>130857517

I'm also well versed in Marxism. Three years of a history degree taught by marxists and left-liberals was all I could stand.

>>130851098
Shart
In
Gulag

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Let's not forget (((who))) is behind communism

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>>130851098

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>>130857506

I don't see much of a difference in any religion. I suppose most of the /left/ obviously prefer a secular state. It doesn't imply that we should respect all religions more or less, regardless whether it is christianity, judaism, islam or buddhism.

However public religious ceremonies should be banned.

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>>130857517
why did hitler hate the jews

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>>130857502
Thanks breh.

Products of single mothers & poorbies blaming others for why they're poor. It's a sad personality trait but I hope Socialists one day do a bit of introspection and see that class analysis isn't so black & white as the protesting Union reps would have people believe and identity politics just gets in the way of identifying which individuals are actually engaging in evil practices instead of this broad sweeping brush painting innocent people as enemies.

In group/out group we've got to recognize we all want similar things; to be happy, safe, secure, to have better lives & for others to have their lives improve. We just have different values & methods of getting there.

I still love you guys even if your "camp" has all but destroyed my country of Australia, I forgive you. Hope you guys can forgive Libertarians for conflating you with the USSR, it's not productive.

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No.

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>>130857991

Also, Lenin wasn't Jewish, natcunt.

>>130857734

Anyway the refutation of communism is easy. The system is set up to create a permanent oscillation of chronic shortages and useless surpluses

For example the USSR had plenty of tanks and however many trillions invested in the military during the Cold War, but was ridiculously deficient in even basic consumer goods. By the mid 60s the economy was already tanking largely because command economies, just like feudalism have no mechanism to react to consumer demand. That's why outlawing property is retarded and why only fascism, or whatever 3rd way non global capitalist and non communist system you choose, ever works.

>>130858456
Lenin was part Jewish. Look it up

>>130851098
The internet sux dick tho

>>130858133
Leftism IS a religion, dumbass.

>>130858175

The exact same reason modern white supremacists do. They would present as German, then when the label became inconvenient say "but I'm a Jew". Such a population does not help a nation but is a hindrance. And as Hitler was an Ultranationalist such behavior was unbearable.

That's one of many reasons true and untrue why he disliked them, they were transient people who also happened to be the most ethnocentric on the planet, goy.

>>130855454

soviet cybernetics faggot

Marx bless

>>130852673
>Political correctness = cultural marxism
>Politicly incorrect = /pol/
It literally is though

>>130857634
>when your ideology is so shit that it's existence is mitigated all over the planet by a single country

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nazi boys are way cuter compared to commie boys

>>130858594
They were also responsible for communism and the Bolshevist revolution in Germany. Take a look at my past posts. I would highly recommend reading Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald, it talks all about how Jews, a very ethnocentric and collectivist group, are naturally at an advantage when they enter individualist European societies

>>130858372

Solzhcucc

>>130858763

hahaha

you think it is politically correct to seize the means of production?

>>130858594

For the record, I am not Nazi, or a White Supremacist(in the hollwoodized semi-ahistorical "master race" sense of the term). - rather I think certain peoples of every strip need a nation (some individuals less than others) and should be able to create, or go it.

>>130857991
How is Allende jewish? I've never ever heard of that
And Lenin's jewish ancestry is kinda remote, unlike most of the other jews in soviet politics

>>130851098
Can you explain to me why communism is even appealing to you?

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>>130851098
>Proprietary software
I use Linux.
>Capitalism
I hate it with a passion, in fact, I think it should be abolished when we've obtained enough resources to sustain an everlasting socialist utopia.
>Federal reserve
It's not even federal, it's private, and much like capitalism it should be abolished.

I can see we're both nationalists, we shouldn't let our political ideologies stop us from achieving the defeat of our true enemy, the international finance system.

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>>130858456
Are you too stupid to even Kikepedia him?

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>>130858594
what does fascism do for the working class? would it not be more beneficial for the workers to democratically own their own means of production collectively? why are you so anti liberty?

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>>130858763

> thinks that cultural marxism is an actual thing

Read a book, natfag

>>130858935
No I think that's kind of dumb.
>Seize the means of production (from the people who worked hard to build their buissiness, and give it to the government)

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>>130859196
>would it not be more beneficial for the workers to democratically own their own means of production collectively?
the state being in controll of and owning everything doesent sound that great either tbqh

>>130859326
> thinks cultural marxism isn't a thing

go back to your gender studies class, feminist

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>>130859115

Linux is one of the gateway to communism. Glory to comrade Stallman.

>>130858973
You're right, he wasn't Jewish, just looked it up. However, even Jewish sites admit he appointed many Jews to positions of power, so he's not much better than a Jew

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/chile-virtual-jewish-history-tour

>>130859192
that's a little bit far-fetched I think, but not that I support communism or anything. Mothers are the ones who pass judaism to their kids I think.

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>>130854725
Thanks rabi

>>130859462
I personally believe in Cultural Marxism, I just don't use that term because it's become a buzz word

>>130858935
yes

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>>130859196
Hitler increased wages of the working class, decreased unemployment, and increased business profits all at the same time.

Stalin killed the Ukrainians for wanting to keep the full value of their labor.

Which sounds better for the workers to you?

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It's so strange how every time some nation starts going down the communist/socialist road we find endless bureaucracy, dictatorship, and mass suffering/death... Maybe if we try it a few dozen more times?

>>130859507
Ok, that's nice too know anyways, so thanks

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>>130859708

>>130859462
>ignores the fact that cultural marxism has converted millions of comrades in the last 3 decades

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>>130859192

Also, you're kikepedia also states that his tiny part of jewish ancestry isn't relevant to him, dumbfuck

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>>130859462

Sod off, americunt

>>130859708
>But muh real gommunism

>>130859659
wasnt real communism

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I'm a Communist, a Christian and a Libertarian simultaneously.

AMA

>>130859115

>I can see we're both nationalists, we shouldn't let our political ideologies stop us from achieving the defeat of our true enemy, the international finance system.

Marxists aren't nationalists, but rather internationalists for a few reasons. Trotskyists believe Communism can only come to fruition if it is brought about everywhere on the planet, and Leninists believe a united front is required to fight capitalist imperialism.

Also Marx thing thing like religion and culture and race (the very things that define many individuals) are "alienations" which is a way for a man to take his inner good qualities such as creativity or altruism and extend them outward and attribute his own goodness to them.

The "alienations" comprise something called the "superstructure" which is ever changing, thus the "alienations" are not innate but rather interchangeable, and therefore worthless (as they are hindrance already, believes the Marxist).

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>>130859467
It'll be used on StarShips someday, along with IBM Watson AI and voice commands, god I hope.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/the-navys-newest-warship-is-powered-by-linux/

Man, I am sure as heck sick of all the Nazi/Alt-right propaganda that claims communism killed GORRILLIONS of people.
Like... Read a book you cunts.

>>130860000

That's an amazing case of cognitive dissonance.

>>130859961
So natsoc is real communism?

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>>130859961
Yeah, there's never been real communism, and there never will be, we know. That doesn't exactly make a good case for communism.

>>130860000 (checked)

>>130851379
....And boom goes the dynamite

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>>130859797

>>130859600
>that's a little bit far-fetched
How? It is well established that his mother was the daughter of a literal Jew. Wikipedia isn't the only source for that.

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>>130859961
embarrassing

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Excuse me, I'd just like to ask a question.

If socialism is so great, what's stopping workers from pooling together their resources to start their own democratic co-ops in a capitalist economy?

>>130860131
yes

>>130860098
It's not. I believe Communism will only emerge through Capitalism - just like Marx did. I am an accelerationist... we need to support free market capitalism as much as possible: it will generate its own opposite (Communism; once the means of production reach a certain treshold where abundance is possible: we're very near that)

This is God's plan.

>>130851098
My wife's boyfriend was mad at me again today because I was late to prepping and my wife called me a racist for it. How can I make it up to them?

>>130860220
Literally nothing

How has the eighth grade been?

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>>130851546

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>>130859852
>Also, you're kikepedia also states that his tiny part of jewish ancestry isn't relevant to him, dumbfuck
I couldn't care less if it wasn't relevant to him. It IS relevant to us.
And your Jew or not a Jew still considers him a kike, albeit "barely" one.

>>130851098
take the stalinpill marxtard

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>>130851098
Can I ask, have you had your IQ tested?

I mean seriously, your ideology has been done to death around the world and is unilaterally a failure, and almost always leads to starvation and dictatorship.

So are you just really dumb or are you like, 13 or something??

>>130860398
that does not answer the question

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>>130860261

>This is God's plan

You got me there

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>>130860220
They can't compete with private business, communists themselves will admit this.

>>130858935
Ya, I'm going to sieze your means of production and chop off your hands you fucking pinko.

Communists need mass graves.

>>130860220
That's a good question with a simple answer: Socialism is utter shit.

>>130860408
Nice lie

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>>130860490
jesus christ
those shirt uniforms are so hot

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>>130860193
I mean that mothers are the ones to pass judaism to their children, so his father could not "actually" pass judaism onto her, at least not according to the traditional way.

Of course, he could teach her rabbinic knowledge and all that, but he was married to a woman from the nobility and converted to christianism. Sure, the christianism part could only be a facade, but it would be hard to teach jewishness in a family from the upper nobility in Russia. His father-in-law would get mad.

Anyways, I find it, at least, interesting, and I'd give you that: it is a really fucked up coincidence too.

>>130858456
>Implying
>Perpetuating soviet propaganda after all these years

http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=1

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>>130860665
sorry for the image, I tried to use this one

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>>130860483
now that is a weak ass meme

>>130860483
God's plan is to bring the Kingdom (which will be like a Communist Utopia)

This will not come through pathetic impotent worker's parties and protests

No. It will come when technology carries us into a post-scarcity scenario

>>130851098
SAGE. STOP REPLYING FAGGOTS.

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Could you answer me why all economic predictions made by Marx were false?

Could you answer me why even neo-marxsits were saying that Marx was wrong, and if so, who's the real(tm) communist?

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>>130860430

See you either in Hell

or in Communism, comrade ;)))

>>130860751
That could take some time. But it makes sense

>>130860751
God bless

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Greetings from Brazil, Piece of shit.

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>>130860753
no sage only shitposting

>>130860000
How do you plan on killing yourself?

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>>130860753

scared?

>>130860868
we just have to gas the kikes and hang all the niggers before communism can ever be possible

>>130860934
It won't take as long as you imagine... people don't realize how crazy the 2020s will be... automation tech will literally explode.

>>130851098
>implying leftists aren't fascists
>implying you aren't all thieves
>implying you deserve human rights if you don't believe in human rights
I laugh at leftists when I talk to them. They can never defeat me in debate and are usually malnourished so they can't resort to fighting either. Pathetic

>>130858456

He literally was a mongrel-jew you retard.

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>>130860659
They are rather nice. Kind of remind me of the FMA uniforms.

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>>130860665
Being Halachically Jewish only means something to religious Jews. The fact that he wasn't a technically Jewish per religious Jewish law doesn't mean that the genetics and therefore behavioral patterns weren't passed on.

They obviously were since his social instinct directed his support of the most socially corrosive Jewish nation wrecking scheme of Communism.

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>>130852097
Holy fucking shit this is a 10/10 pasta

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>>130860884
Lame retort, faggot. You can't even argue your retarded positions except to post nigger-tier memes.

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>>130861188

You sure showed us, Conrad!

>>130861179
Thanks for confirming that you have no idea what are you talking about, you just post memes from lefty syubreddit.

>>130851098
This thread was better when you were posting it with the Spanish flag

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>>130851098
this thread is over

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>>130860884

>>130859196

The philosophy of facism is such: genetics are the root, environment is the stem, and culture is the flower. All 3 must be healthy and in harmony with one another.

>what does fascism do for the working class?

Facism creates an environment where members of the working class feel a part of something bigger than themselves. They feel protected and unmolested in the pursuit of their family's good and their individual health. Under fascism, anyone can start a business (there are limits to what foreigners are allowed to do - media being a big one - under HItler, only Germans were allowed to own and edit newspapers in the German language, and each ethnicity in kind - though Germans could make newspapers in any gulag. This was to prevent foreigners from riling up minority populations as in the revolution of 1918). But any business that is harmful or unhealthy to the nation is not allowed, no strip clubs, brothels, pornography studios, gambling joints, or anything that encourages wasteful consumption or spreads disease, there are cultural exceptions made such as beer houses, obviously. Crime is almost zero, and predatory wages are unheard of (bad for the health of the nation - nation meaning people, not state in this sense). And freed education and training given by MERIT for the Bernie bros. All bright academics get full scholarships.

>would it not be more beneficial for the workers to democratically own their own means of production collectively?

Morally and philsophically this is a wonderful idea, but in paracticallity it does not work, there is no law agains worker co-ops under fascism, except where it would come head to head with national interest. Say you and your communist friends work at a medical plant during a typhus outbreak and you ghuys are upset about how Germany's foreign relations are going with Russia - you don't get to stop work or strike. Likewise the capitalist is not allowed to price gouge in times of crisis.

>>130861263
I don't believe that everything the jews do is behaviourally programmed onto them, but I clearly don't have enough knowledge on the matter. I believe in talmudic teachings as a main way of creating jewishness too.
It is a big coincidence nevertheless, we can agree on that.

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>>130861517

;))))))))))))))))))

>>130860017
>Hail to a flag and leader
>Want to abolish capitalism
>Want socialist utopia

I consider myself bolshevistic. kek

We share common ground with them, we shouldn't let our ideologies extremely divide us, it's what the kikes want in order to conquer us, we both have the same goal of ending the jewry of capitalism.

>>130851098
One evil word (((Bolshevism)))

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>>130861606

I'm here.

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>>130861645

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>>130861608
why can't we have uniforms like that

>>130861668

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>>130851098
>wanting a government with full control with a history of doing so poorly its people starve to death and resort to cannibalism.

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>>130861783
And that is literally almost all of the pictures you have. Nigger, I have TROVES of JewTube videos filled to the brim with skinny little nu-males like you waltzing around large cities pretending to be important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crQWHvovJYg

>>130858133
Becauseeee.........???????

Fuck off. We'll keep doing it, religion is decency.

I bet you're all happy with today's faggotry parades.

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>>130862442

Calm your ideology, cuccer.

Go have a nap ;j

>>130859467
Linux has NOTHING to do with Stallman, you idiot.

GNU is utter failure.

>>130861668
(con't)

He would have to justify a price increase if it went against the national interest. If he didn't want his business nationalized.

>why are you so anti liberty?

First we have to establish what freedom and liberty actually is - negative freedom, which is "freedom from" (coercion, think libertarianism gun ownership rights) and positive freedom or "freedom to" (think free school and healthcare).

The left's vision of freedom is the idea that freedom is the freedom to do wrong ("victimless crimes"). The capitalists supports negative freedoms for the same reason ( the more markets and niches, the more profits, the better).

The fascist believes freedom both positive and negative freedoms should engender the freedom to do whats right - that is what is good for the individual, his family, and the nation.

For instance under fascism, a well paid factory worker trying to raise a family with traditional nationalist and Christian values, would not have to trip over drug abusing, aids ridden homosexuals, and risk getting robbed by radicalized minorities that are poor and disaffected and blame people who like him, while trying to bring his sick kid to hospital for free health care in nation that his ancestors have built.

hi I agree with leftist economic critiques of """free-market""" fundamentalism and support left-wing economic movements but I like my country, western culture, and have am weary of mass immigration and islam.

what do?

humans have to die before communism

>>130851098
>>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no food, no sage

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>>130862639
>This is the best he's got.

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>>130862584
You are hopeless, sorry

>>130862738
Fuck communism, it is a failure. It equals corruption and depravity.

LGBT = cultural marxism. It's all the same.

>>130861668
>though Germans could make newspapers in any gulag.

whoops. lol. any l-a-n-g-u-a-g-e. +1 for commie autocorrect

>>130862864
We can agree on that. I'm immune to your marxist lies.

I've been there, I know them all.

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>>130862817

>>130851098
There would be internet in a communist state, either 4chan

is there a single nation in which communism has succeeded over the decades?

>>130863030
KEK

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>>130863008

Sure thing, fella

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>be lefty-cuck
>talk about "the means of production" and the "working class"
>have never produced anything of value
>have never worked

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>>130863030
Yep, that previous one was the best you had.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_FTjBt4Mns&t=722s

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>>130863132

People commonly confuse Communism with Socialist States ruled by Communist Parties. Of course Communism isn't possible without any socialist successful development.

However, capitalist pressure won. But that doesn't mean that the socialist regimes failed. Cuba is fine and alive

>>130863577
ok. but is there a single Communist Nation that is successfully communist or nah? and i dont mean China where if you wrong-think you go to prison for decades..

nations engaging in civil rights abuses dont count in my opinion

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>>130863442

Piss off with your cringecompilations

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Communists are all parasites who want to take from hard working people and give to themselves

Communist is a synonym for thief

>>130863296

>Pol Pot

>Supported by the CIA and not China

PROVE IT. NOW.

>>130863755
bump

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Once you understand that a communist is a parasite much like a mosquito or leech, you can get a full understanding of how it must be dealt with.

>>130851098
marxists need to ALL be culled

ALL

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>>130863755

Time will show. We aren't technologically developed and educated enough to deserve all that Communism could offer us.

>>130851098
Please move to Venezuela or Cuba and give us the run down on how great socialism is, thx.

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>>130864263
Communism doesn't give anything, even according to your own ideology you can see it.

Communism flattens and destroys, it can only bring people down, not up.

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>>130864122

My boots are ready to step on your reptile shitbody

>>130864263
Communism is approximately 177 years old.
And you're telling me in all that time there has never been a single successful Communist Nation? And that, despite this, you're shilling for Communism with the hope 177 years of history will magically change and Communism will finally succeed?

anon..i..

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>>130862901
When you put the scientific method to ideologies and their systems, take them apart piece by piece, you begin to find things that would not only save humanity from complete self annihilation, but achieve the perfection of God hood.

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>>130864577
Wow, sorry for thinking that I was speaking to decent human being.

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>>130864523
You are weak and stupid, that's why you believe in communism.

Communism is the ideology of the loser who wants to bring those above him down.

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>>130852097
>https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/

hehehe

>>130854302
I think you should throw in Pol Pot too.

>>130851098
>>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production.

>Counts labor as a means of production.

State slavery. Just say no.

>>130864577
The dirty truth about commies is that they don't even want it to "succeed" in the traditional sense

Their successful communist revolution simply involves killing and destroying every valuable member of society, until they are left with only stupid worthless people such as themselves. Therefore the playing field is leveled, they are no longer the biggest losers in the world, they are just like everyone else.

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>>130864859

Oh, the paradox!

>>130855248
You are a special kind of stupid.
It collapsed in Russia, and China gave it and is more capitalistic than we are.
Do you read ANY history...at all?
GTFO

>>130864847

Into the helicopter you go "comrade".

>>130864847
im being serious. why do you think communism can succeed if 177 years says otherwise?

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>>130865263
Amazing argument comrade!

>>130851098
You're unable to preserve the agriculture of an nation how are you supposed to be able to preserve the internet lol.

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>>130865310

I don't how to even define your ideology, cucc

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>>130851098

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>>130865437

Get crushed, silly snek :^)

>>130854725

>Hitler is responsible for the total death count of the entire war

>>130863927

>Communists are all parasites who want to take from hard working people and give to themselves

This is true. The typical Communist envisions what the would do after "the revolution" as they are mainly spoiled college kids, this usually means office work, academia and government Sinecures. The picture themselves as leader, or the favorite of a great future leader - in part, because Marxism puts a heavy emphasis on self-development, and "following your dreams" - but only after the revolution and Communism has been established. Marx spoke of factory workers creating widgets - doing easy short repetitive tasks over and over again to appease the capitalist in his stated view, this was a hindrance to their development (this is also a Hegelian concept) rather they should be developing full blown skills they can be proud of. In his view capitalism retarded human development in such a fashion in addition to all of the atrocities he rightly or wrongly linked to capitalism. However, we in the west can develop what ever skill we want in our legislated free time to whatever degree we wish and still, often do not.

After a fascist "reaction", the average facist (because they tend to be more realistic and working class). envisions doing the same thing they are now but with greater social ease. They don't envision having to cross picket lines to the job they are happy in (this is what brought fascists about the socialist concept of "universal strike" when workers in factory X were unhappy, relatively content workers in factory Y would have to be crossing picketlines and fist fighting their coworkers so they could earn money for their family because of the "internationalist" herd concepts of socialism) tiptoeing around foreigners, or having to entertain any made up identity that is of no use to them,their family or the nation(the things leftists and capitalists bring).

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>>130865041
It's not slavery if you get 40 hours of work per week and then go home and masturbate to anime. Come on Kekistan, you're suppose to be red pilling people into joining.

this is a good doc. about communism.

http://www.hellstormdocumentary.com/

>>130861645
So you guys are ponyfuckers? Wow, that really appeals to me!

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>>130865794
It's hilarious how you feminine little weaklings think you are going to start a revolution

You are the mosquitos of the world, parasites to be squashed

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>>130865374
Probably the same reason natsocs and lolberts think their systems can succeed despite them never having been tried or ending up in failure every time
>>130864122
>>130864420
>Hey guys I'm totally a libertarian but people need to be killed for thinking differently from me
ok

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>>130866114

Even horsefuckers are above you retards.

>>130865800
Yes. He died for our sins.

>>130854231
>>130853912
hitler be in that spot on those lists king leopold killed more in the congo than hitler did by millions. regardless what they all have in common is an authoritarian regime. moral of the story live free or die

>>130866547
hitler shouldnt be*

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>>130866414
Reminder, communists are not people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-wMmYSG9JQ

>>130857734

>When the Jew Bolsheviks took over Russia they burned all the churches but left all the Synagogues

Burgers actually believe that.

>>130851539
Canada

>>130866775

I can find you literally hundreds of churches burned by communists but not one synagogue.

GIYF

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The ideas of Communism and Capitalism really wont last when we automate everything.

2021 is the date that Google releases its first line of driverless cars and semi-truck conversion kits. This will kill a large percentage of truck driving, delivery, and taxi jobs (Uber is already gearing up for this)

What are you all going to do when your job is outsourced to a machine?

>>130867026

Really? Workers have democratic control of the means of production in Canada?

>>130860408
>Concentration camps: 10 millions.

About 3.5 millions ARRESTED from 1921 to 1953 for """political""" crimes.

>62 million people.

1/4 of population and demography didn't drop.
Impressive. Especially considering that it nosedived doing the "muh prosperous capitalism".

>>130851098
Fuck you nigger
Check my 6

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>>130867298
>gay

I'm sorry but your post is fully ironic. Kek

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>>130852097

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>>130851098
PHYSICALLY REMOVE

>>130861270
found the newfag

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>>130866414
lolberts cant make a claim to a successful nation either. but natsocs can, anon. before the allied forces attacked germany, Hitler completely fixed german society and their economic system.

in fact, the entire war against hitler was fought because his natsoc system robbed the international jews of their profit and instead put the wealth in the pockets of germans.

pic related

>>130866775
Fifteen years after the Bolshevist Revolution was launched to carry out the Marxist program, the editor of the American Hebrew could write: 'According to such information that the writer could secure while in Russia a few weeks ago, not one Jewish synagogue has been torn down, as have hundreds--perhaps thousands of the Greek Catholic Churches...In Moscow and other large cities one can see Christian churches in the process of destruction...the Government needs the location for a large building," (American Hebrew, Nov. 18, 1932, p. 12)

>>130867201

97 synagogues was left in the USSR after Stalin. The rest were either confiscated or demolished, you christcuck.

>>130867641
Well, why are we fighting over issues of labor when that wont be an issue anymore? Work will be a privilege in a ever shrinking niche that cannot yet be better done by a computer,

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>>130865800
I don't think he's responsible for Stalin forcing his civilians to stay in Leningrad and Stalingrad through weeks and weeks of heavy bombing and shelling.

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>>130851098
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism

and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no

goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass

beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all.

Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da

state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

-----------------------------------------
Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by

digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither

away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause

sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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>>130867377
>1/4 of population and demography didn't drop.
>Impressive.

Communists aren't really trustworthy with numbers anon, given that the "historical processes" and "inevitable progress of history" take precedence over facts in the Communist philosophy.

Facts that counter the narrative of the imperative aren't important and tend to only confuse the proletariat, so they should just be ignored or erased, like this gentleman here.

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Communism is and always has been a Jewish trick.

GAS COMMIES!
GAS KIKES!

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>>130851098
Communism has and always will fail

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>>130851098

>>130854725
UHHHMMMM...I BELIEVE IT WAS 90 GORILLIAN YOU FUCKING NAZI!!!

>>130866661
I'd have a lot more respect for you edgy LARPing Hoppean fags if you quit beating around the bush and just admitted you were fascists already.
>>130867346
Because what most people really mean when they talk about "socialism" is keeping their mixed market social democracies, but with more taxes and welfare programs.

>>130867836
Try again when you have an example that lasted more than a dozen years. We have no idea how Hitler's NatSoc Germany would have functioned in the long-term or if it was even sustainable. The American system seemed to be the greatest and most powerful for decades throughout the 20th century. It took almost a hundred years for deeper problems latent within the system to really manifest themselves. A state that lasted a little over a decade can't be used as an example for the long-term success rate and stability of such a system.

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>>130851098
What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.
Dear Leader Karl Marx


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/jewish-question/

>>130851098
>no class system, no hierarchy of workers
Who administers the means of production? Who coordinates trade? Who manages the army and police?

if there is no state, how are private means of production seized and distributed? Why would it be ethical to seize private property?

Communists have the lowest form of thinking. Even a barely cogent person can immediately poke innumerable holes in your harebrained ideology

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>>130859115
Communists aren't nationalistic, they're internationalists. Don't fall to their propaganda! 14/88

>>130867842
Yeah, that's why Yeshivas were forced to move to Poland.

By the way, wanna take a wild guess who financed illegal Jewish schools in USSR?

>American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee,
>American

Typical burger, bitching about shit he always did.
Khruschev should have deep fried your preachy hypocritical "holier than thou" ass when he had a chance. Together with fucking Juderail.

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>>130867897
All I want in the end is to sit at a terminal doing data entry and pen-testing, then I'll come home and fuck my sex robot wife, I don't give a shit how degenerate that sounds, 2027 here I come.

>>130851098
The big flaw in your belief is that the government is of the people. If you think that the government taking control of the means of production is social ownership, then you are what is known as a useful idiot. The true socially owned production is buying stocks on the market. If you want to own the means of production, then work for it and buy a piece of it. In capitalism, there is a way for companies to be democratically owned by the workers. It is called a co-op and they work very well unlike marxist confiscation.

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>>130868374
uh anon..?

http://www.ihr.org/other/economyhitler2011.html

^ this proves hitler revived his economy and sustained it right up until the allied forces attacked germany. and i already proved WW2 was about the Jews not getting their money from germany. why would the jews attack hitler if his system was just going to fail on its own? NATSOC is the true path to freedom, friend.

>>130867858
>97 synagogues was left in the USSR after Stalin.

Prove it.

>>130867858
Moron, Stalin led a purge of the Bolshevik jews, that's why there's a total difference between Stalinism and Leninism. The initial bolshevik politburo was almost all Jewish. Stalinism destroyed a lot of what Lenin stood for. Read a fucking history book you cretin

>>130868374
>Because what most people really mean when they talk about "socialism" is keeping their mixed market social democracies, but with more taxes and welfare programs.

Yeah. the liberal-left really don't understand the ideas they advocate for.

>>130868573

They're sometimes nationalistic if they can "free" the country from international private capital. Communists loved Central and South American movements that tried to free their lands from meanie U.S. influence.

Communists think Nationalism is a step toward Internationalism. So third world countries that have yet to establish nationalism get that push from international communists to push them in the "right" direction.

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>>130851098
Fascists and Commies are basically the same they just differ slightly on the edges of the doctrine. A Socialist is a socialist is a socialist. Please kill yourself. No really do it

>>130851098
reminder natsoc is communism
dont let the nazi lie to you

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>>130859961
This? again?

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>>130868852
America had decades of low unemployment, economic booms, general improvement and prosperity. If we looked at one slice of history that lasted as long as Nazi Germany did, we could say that the American system is more successful. Hell, until just a few years ago, the Scandinavian states seemed like the best in the world, until they were given a chance to fuck themselves over with their own hyperleftism. Looking at a single decade isn't enough to get an idea of how a system functions in the long term.
>muh Jews attacked Hitler because he was too successful, he dindu nuffin wrong
Maybe he shouldn't have invaded other countries if he didn't want to start a war you mong.

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>>130851098
Go get BLACKED some where else faggot

>>130860044
Low quality bait.

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>>130851098
why does leftism attract weak human beans

>>130851379
His dad is probably a dentist. Dunno' why, but seems like the faggy little antifa-commie types are always dentists sons. Somehow dentists seem to fuck up in rearing sons.

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>>130870416
america isnt successful. we are capitalist, and capitalism is a Jewish created system. the few grow wealthy while the many poor. as for the war... hitler didnt try to invade anyone. they brought the war to him and he fought back.

>pic related

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>>130851098
communism is for people who have never worked a day in their lives and feel the need to justify it

>>130858456
Lose to inferior races? What inferior race defeated the Nazi's? Both sides were the same race.

>>130870700
The American system was successful and prosperous for a lot longer time than Nazi Germany was. Nazi Germany wasn't given time to become corrupt, nepotistic, and self-serving and eventually fail under its own weight just like every other system of government that's been tried eventually does.
>My perfect, pure system of government will never become corrupted by shitty leaders
you must be 18 or older to post on this site anon

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>>130860884

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>>130867026

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>>130871156
in four years Hitler destroyed decades of poverty in Germany. his new system, National Socialism, threatened to make germany so wealthy and the international Jews so poor that they waged a war against germany and genocided the german people.

natsoc is the perfect system of government, economy, culture and even religion because it is 100% impervious to being co-opted or perverted. you simply cant corrupt it.

think of it this way:

it took Hitler 14 years to create National Socialism and only 4 years to prove it works. Communism has been around for nearly 200 years and there isnt a SINGLE instance of it working.

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>>130861134
Yeah, Im real spooped by spoiled edgy HS faggots living off their mommies.

Helicopter yourself.

>>130851098
The best part about Communism? You don't even get to choose what job you'll work for the rest of your life! Isn't that wonderful!

>>130868573
>>130869490
He's right, nationalism might not last forever, other ideologies and systems too, when the means to protect our people and our land is accomplished to it's fullest extent, we'll create true international unity, no capitalism, no corruption, just one world working together to colonize other worlds and continue the efforts and endeavors of humanity throughout the rest of the galaxy, long before the sun destroys this world. We can use transhumanism to perfect all people, turning them compliant to planetary unity and the efforts and endeavors of science and continuing on into advancing our culture, sure, it might break up, there'll be some kind of galactic war, but in the end, people will see the truth, and continue to unite for the benefit of the group, we're the enlightened ones now, not the kikes who conspire against us. It's human nature, and one day we will evolve beyond human.

>>130859326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fo5jLdJlgI&ab_channel=GalneGunnarTV

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>>130851098
day of the airborne oven can't come soon enough

>>130871746
>The short-term success of this system proves that it would have remained successful in the long-term
That didn't apply to other systems so why would it have necessarily applied to yours?
International Jews also fought wars to stop the spread of communism, I guess that proves how mighty and successful communism was for international Jews to want to do that. In fact, you seem to be making the case for international Jewry being the most successful system ever, since nobody has been able to create anything powerful enough with a hope of even stopping it. 1950's America proves it, it was so happy and successful and prosperous. Certainly no way it could have gone to shit 50 years later

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>>130871746
>natsoc is the perfect system of government, economy, culture and even religion because it is 100% impervious to being co-opted or perverted. you simply cant corrupt it.
People said the same thing about democracy, too. Every form of government is flawed and can be corrupted, because they are designed and managed by flawed, corruptible humans. You are hopelessly naive if you think you've created a system to overcome this.

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>>130872593
communism is a jewish invention anon..
communist russians helped the Jews destroy germany and rape its women and children.

what are you on about?

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>>130873078
The USSR threatened geopolitical stability as well as the dominance of the capitalist system of international Jewry
>muh Frankfurt School Jews invented communism, so banker Jews would never want to fight against a communist state
it can be helpful to approach the topic with a bit more nuance than that

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