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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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VIVA

LA

REVOLUTION

BURN THE PORKY
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First to Heil Stalingrad
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Shut the fuck up already.
Sage
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Fuck off with your freeloader psuedo-intellectual ideology.
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>>130830415
>>130830430
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>He is still posting these threads
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>>130830415
Burn the capable, praise the inept
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>>130830248
>socially owned
Define this
>goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need
If I can make profit selling ice cream, I know there is a need for it. If I cannot make a profit, I know there is no need for me to produce and sell ice cream. Do you want to make profit punishable by law? If so, how will you know what you need to produce? Money and profit is efficient
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>>130830841
The state determines what to produce to ensure everyone gets what they need.
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>>130831201
How does the state know what to produce?
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Hope all my comrades are having a good day!
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Communism might work in the digital era.
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>>130830248
This fucking inbred subhuman scum again.
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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
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>>130832758

Hope you have a great day too comrade
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Always a common denominator...
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>>130830673
Kill me, pete
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itt: Richard Spencer
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No time for shitposting when there are fields to plough and forges to work, get to it comrades.
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>>130831012
unironically this
these threads are just pure autism and recruting /pol/yps ist just a fundamentally dumb idea
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>>130833990
Was expecting to see you here, never fail to deliver.
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>>130830248

Enjoy crushing civilization and rolling back every human advancement post Middle Ages
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>>130831012
To be honest, despite all their rhetorics, leftypol is just... how the russians would put it... "Meлкoбypжyaзныe тpoцкиcтcкиe дeгeнepaты, мaжopы и пидapacы".

While they are partly right, their doctrine following of marx instead of more pragmatic "do as circumstances demand" approach will be their undoing, as always.

Also, they are faggots. And furries.
And I hate faggots and furries.
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>>130830248
Daily reminder that there has never been a successful communist society.
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>>130835057
>rolling back every human advancement post Middle Ages

Dick measurement contest between US and USSR is what pushed the human advancement to the stage we have now. And counsumerism-oriented advancement is the thing that will stale the humanity in degeneracy.

Enjoy your decadence, and multifunctional selfie-sticks, I suppose.
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>>130835375
Stalin's were, though it was more fascist in it's nature. Pretty much the only good way to run communist society, if not counting the chinese.

Dogmatic kumbaya fags will just ruin everything.
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>>130830248
Staff Sergeant Kurt Hummel, Military Post Number L 31 605 Lg Pa. Paris, to his local group

Northern Russia, 12 August 1941

Bolshevist conditions are indescribable. I had never imagined that such misery was possible. People here know nothing about electric lights, radio, newspapers and the like. One can't call what they live in houses. There are only shanties with rotten straw roofs. Huge neglected fields lay around. We haven't yet found even a small shop. This is what people call the Soviet paradise. I wish the few outsiders who still remain in Germany could be shipped here. There is misery wherever one looks. One has to see it to realize how beautiful Germany is.
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>>130835712
see:
>>130835728
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Official thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbR2JZmlWo
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>>130834337
Answer my question faggot
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>>130830248
you mean "daily verbal abuse of the intellectually deficient general" don't you?
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>>130835823

Funny, considering that in village when my grandparents lived was provided with electrification in thirties.

By the way, if Russia was so shit, why did you snatched about 1400 turbines and about 11k electric engines from it, you kraut niggers?
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Can you post some more infographics about how much progress Communist countries made under commie rule?
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>>130836411
There's one thing your ideologies have in common:

Soldier Heinrich Stähr tells his work mates at the Hamburg Hochbahn A. G. about conditions frequently mentioned in other letters as well:

The roads. We in the infantry are probably the best judge of good and bad roads, since we have to march for kilometer after kilometer on them. Here too the Soviets haven't lifted a finger. The main roads are no better than field paths. Believe me, my dear comrades, the soldiers have had many a justifiable curse after marching 40 or 50 kilometers on such a road. Besides, it is 30-35 degrees C. in the shade, and huge clouds of dust make it almost impossible to breathe. Swamps, forests, and bad roads make military action unpleasant, but we keep moving forward.
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>>130835728
And yeah, not to mention that these "miserable subhumans" still kicked your aryan ass so hard your nigger country broke in two parts.

How does it feel to be beaten by upper Volta?
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>>130830248
Communism works on small scale, even on medium sized family it is not fool proof. Communism does not work on large scale at all. It enables too much state power, aka father figure. You know what happens in families that has a father figure who just doesnt care anymore about his family, or care for-. .. So why give absolute power to any single person or institute?
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>>130837841
>>130835855
>>130833968
Finish filmaker, are you the Fingolian filmmaker? I saw an art thread and a Finish lad mentioned he was a film maker, but it archived before I could respond. I'm looking for him!
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>>130837841
That analogy makes no fucking sense, try picking up a book.
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>>130837143
When did I say anything about subhumans?
These people were simply victims of communism. They would have been far better off under german rule.
As to why we lost, well there were quite a lot of them.

Flyer W. M., Res.-Lazarett Salzlwedel to his Cell Leader Schroeder

I have seen the "wonderful workers' paradise" in the Soviet Union with all its terrible misery, and wish that those who thought differently could spend a few weeks here to see and experience what we have. The misery and horror of Bolshevism is terrible.

I hope that volunteering for our proud army may atone for my earlier sins, and that when I am back home, you, dear party member, will accept me as an honest person. In that hope, I send you my warmest greetings.

Heil Hitler!

signed W. M.
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>>130838219
Try living in communism.

Oh wait, you can't.
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>>130830248
Daily reminder that communism is retarded and antifa are gay
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>>130837143
Also, what is upper Volta?
Google only gives me some place in Africa.
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>>130838483
[triggered]
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Begone statist scum
I will resist your destructive desires always
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>>130838112
Sorry, no.
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>>130838978
I'm not a capitalist, my dude.

Corporal J. F., Military Post Number 26,280 to his Local Group

In the Field, 3.8.41

What we have seen of the so-called Soviet paradise is worse than we ever imagined. Anyone back home who still has any doubts should come here. All his doubts will disappear. Everywhere we go, the people are happy to be freed from Bolshevism, and look to the future with confidence. We soldiers can say to those back home that he [Hitler] saved Germany and all of Europe from the Red Army. The battle is hard, but we know what we are fighting for, and, confident of the Führer, we will win. In the hopes of a victorious return,

Heil Hitler
Corporal J. F.
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>The fucking Spaniard still makes these threads.
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>>130839475
And then, the germs promptly started massacring the russians instead of incorporating them into their armies, thus alienating them into joining the bolshevik camp again, and all because of Hitler's delusional racial theories about slavs.
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>>130840045
>and all because of Hitler's delusional racial theories about slavs.
Wrong. German propaganda rarely if ever portrayed slavs as subhumans. Their conditions were always traced back to communism, not their race. As far as massacres go, those things never happened unprovoked, though our soldiers did tend to overreact.


Corporal Otto Kien, Military Post Number 18, 756, to the Factory Leadership t the Conrad Scholtz Factory. Barmbeck

Russia, 8 August 1941

Anyone who earlier had different opinions of the Soviet Union is quickly cured of them here. The poverty is terrible. Not even the farmers have anything to eat. They beg from us. There are lice and filth everywhere. One has to be careful one doesn't get them from the inhabitants.

These people don't know anything else. They sit in their huts and remove lice from each other. They don't mind if anyone watches. I've had my fill of this workers' paradise. We'll be glad to be out of here. In the past we saw pictures of malnourished children. They were not exaggerated. One can't believe it if one hasn't been here.
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>>130841204
>though our soldiers did tend to overreact.
I'd call causing 15 million civilian deaths more than an "overreaction"
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>>130841398
>use scorched earth tactics
>people die
>OY VEY evil Nazis did this!
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>>130838582
You just don't get it woman. You're far from being a perfect super soldier. Your quantum brainwaves give you super reflexes, but obviously your mind is too sluggish to keep up with that kind of reaction speed! You're just acting on instinct like an animal. That's why I can predict your actions. Reflexes and thoughts must be one. This synthesis is the mark of a perfect super soldier! THIS IS FAREWELL, WOMAN!!
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>>130838811

Communism is stateless.
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>>130842030
You guys are basically leftist ancaps, you've never existed, you never will exist, you'll always claim that you've never been tried, and you're only good for memes.
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>>130830248
>spain hiding behind this flag now
sad
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"To each according to his contribution" is a principle of distribution considered to be one of the defining features of socialism.

The principle has its roots in the way that capitalism manages its affairs. That is, each is rewarded according to how much he produces. Remuneration increases as the amount of labor contributed increases. However within capitalism, the means of production are owned by a small minority who do not produce, but rather live off the labor of others. Socialism is said to remedy this by putting the means of production in common hands and rewarding individuals according to their contributions.
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>>130844930
>they literally are incapable of creating an original meme
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>when central planning lost to free market but muh not real cummunism
>give people freedom of speech
>they all leave the USSR
lol
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>>130846180
So basically Communism is based on unsustainable growth?
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