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PAGANISM GENERAL
06/20/17(Tue)19:37:23 No.130730901
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PAGANISM GENERAL

EDITION: Day of Mars - Ares /OR/ Dyēus Pater - Jupiter - Zeus - Tiwaz/Tyr - Dyauṣ Pitā

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DURRRRR IM PAGAAAAN GUISSS

How do we solve the Christian Question lads?

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Bumping with Mediterranean pagan stuff. you germanics weren't specific enough!!

>>130817363
We politely ask them to please leave us alone.

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>>130817784

>>130817363

To be honest there's nothing to solve. Christians are eating themselves over fuckshit. Stick to your own stuff, make yourself the demigod you always wanted to be physically and intellectually and fuck the other cults. You can't survive when you're a fucking weakling.
And once you're strong in body, mind and soul, you can change society for good.

Hail Wotan ! Hail Donar !

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>>130818163
I still think Meds and Germ/Nords should team up when it comes to defending pagan beliefs. Pic related are from Phoenician ruins in Lebanon

>>130817894
so like you believe a cow licked some salt and the world was made? I'm trying to understand how mythology that is far more regressive than Christianity is preferential. How do you explain any metaphysical events? Cosmology? Purpose? etc. You guys post a bunch of pictures and appeal to "muh ancestors" but I'm trying to find a doctrinal reason for any of it to be valid. A philosophical understanding of your beliefs is all we are asking. As far as I understand it it is near synonymous with Vedic Hinduism which is pretty rampant with relativism so then how do you justify your rigid views on race and sexuality and other such nonsense if your entire philosophy is based in pantheist relativism. I mean even Shinto animism has some codified thought behind it so what is it with neo-paganism?

>>130818676
The "rigid"(healthy you mean) views on race and sexuality come from a tribal mindset moreso than a book telling you to do it.

As far as the spiritual side I'd read some German revival authors and their ideas of the gods in a modern sense.

>>130819206

I mean rigid as in its clearly defined. Where as in hinduisms relativist view they have cults of trannies and shit. Its from the same Indo-European belief system so I'm trying to see the philosophical value of why it would be preferential to say Hinduism which is uninterrupted and less revisionist.

I get the tribe thing but why have you guys chosen a very specific time and culture to emulate? Why didn't you go back to the many breasted female fertilitiy cults instead of choosing some 12-15th century re-enactment. I'm sure you had far more ancestors worshipping earth goddess than say Thor/Odin etc.

Finally is it just some form of advanced atheism like how certain brands of Satanism promote themselves? I mean there isn't much in terms of philosophy that isn't covered elsewhere so do most of you just not actually believe but find it aesthetically more pleasing than Christianity? I can actually understand this as a motivation more so than some others.

>>130818676

I don't worship literal gods. I admire archetypes. There doesn't need to be validity beyond what I personally think it is or represents to be honest - just as with what christians go. I'm also not hating christians or some shit, but that doesn't render my post false. Christians do shit on each other for the most trivial things or more profound reasons like interpretations etc.. Christianity - as existing right now - is full blown moral relativism as can be experienced every single day - even from so-called conservative sects. And christianity has this massive flaw that it idolizes mediocrity instead of being "the strongest", "the smartest" and all that. It makes - in the long run - people inherently weak as everything that matters is what comes after this life, because hey - this world is of the devil, right?

Ask the question the other way around ? Why are christians so fond of their "holy scripture" ? Which literally states how you shall be weak, shall not fight back, shall even fuck over your family if that's what you gotta do to worship Jesus.
How is it any valid what christians do or have ever done ?
There's this one cool pic I haven't saved where Jesus knocks on a door
>let me in
>why
>to save you
>from what
>from what I'll do to you if you don't let me in
And that's exactly how they operate - in addition to having merged with the literal forces they "opposed" so much in the past. But how about we ask Giulio de' Medici about that ?! He'd have smth to say I can tell you.

And yeah, you're right: "Because muh ancestors" is not the best argument, but you know what ? It makes more sense to idolize pagan gods that represent natural phenomena and massive warriors that actually help me further myself and my people (if that's what I wanted to do), than it is to worship a dude which - though existed which we know from Roman scriptures etc. - has nothing to offer but texts written a hundred years years (and way further)...
1/2

>>130819761
>I mean rigid as in its clearly defined
It's clearly defined to me. Up until like the 60's or so we would BTFO faggots. This stretches back to probably the first semi-intelligent humanoids because it's detrimental behaviour to a people anyways. I'm just saying I don't need a book to tell me it's bad.

>Its from the same Indo-European belief system so I'm trying to see the philosophical value of why it would be preferential to say Hinduism which is uninterrupted and less revisionist.
Because that has less to do with Europeans. It all comes from the same root, but it's been separated for a while. All modern holidays we have are pagan in origin and the fairy tales/ folk tales are literally just a continuation of rural beliefs and local myths carried down since the conversion was a top-down process. We have so much european culture that is pagan in origin left in the west it's silly that you would even talk about following hinduism quite honestly.

>I get the tribe thing but why have you guys chosen a very specific time and culture to emulate? Why didn't you go back to the many breasted female fertilitiy cults instead of choosing some 12-15th century re-enactment. I'm sure you had far more ancestors worshipping earth goddess than say Thor/Odin etc.
There's depictions of the gods as we know them back to far BC times. And it's not like in Christianity were they hold a meeting at X date and suddenly everything changes. The gods evolve with time. It's not like the meaning of Freyr is a 180 change from his neolithic predecessor.

>>130819761
>Finally is it just some form of advanced atheism like how certain brands of Satanism promote themselves? I mean there isn't much in terms of philosophy that isn't covered elsewhere so do most of you just not actually believe but find it aesthetically more pleasing than Christianity? I can actually understand this as a motivation more so than some others.

So basically, Christianity has some of the same beliefs so why not be Christian? That's not an argument.

>>130820147

...has nothing to offer but texts written a hundred years (and way further) after his death stating he is god and also the son of god (because the trinity an shiet) and did wonders.

Not to mentions the gospels state that Jesus himself said that that megiddo shit would take place still while the apostles would still be living. Nothing happen. Not even in 2000 years.

You know I'm not even denying the fact that a great theological foundation can absolutely benefit a society. But Rome rose under modified hellenism. It fell under christianity, because - same as today - christianity offers the slave mind set rather than encouraging anything beyond "just endure this shit and you gon be some skykang bruhf".

And that race shit is actually no race shit at all, it stems from a tribalistic mindset - which paganism promotes - where you set up boundaries of your habitat and defend them and the people of your tribe until death.
This is a way more profound foundation of a society than anything that is written in the bible.

I mean don't get me wrong, I won't shit on christians just because they're christians. But christians are literally the spiritual pendant to SJWs claiming moral high grounds while they let the world and even their own institutions go to shit.

>>130820610
I wasn't asking my inquiry to direct you toward Christianity but instead simply to see if its an actual belief system or a reenactment. Hinduism is more than rituals it has a belief system underlying it. I don't endorse it so no need to attack myself or Hinduism. I cant find the underlying belief system in European paganism.

>>130821438
>cant find the underlying belief system in European paganism.

1. Read pic related
2. Study the group behaviour of Europeans up to near modern times
3. Study old laws like the Lex Frisonium.

It's really not that hard m8.

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>>130821883
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>>130821883
Well I guess that's that. Good thread. We accomplished a lot here. Glad I gave you the chance to explain your views to those interested.

praise Pērkons

>>130823795
Yeah it was a pretty good thread. Didn't get derailed too hard yet.

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>Hourly Slovenian table top RPG general

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>>130824588
Your ancestors are calling, come home

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>>130814528
Huh

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>>130824941
>Literal fanfic

Like I said, RPG.

>>130824236
Wait for the le Deus le Vult larpers

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>>130825463
A man with no roots is easy to control.

Don't let the people of Abraham genocide your people.

another religious LARP thread

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>>130824941

>>130824941
what about their ancestors? worshippers of the proto-indo-european pantheon. what about their animist ancestors?

>>130825713
>A man with no roots is easy to control.

I have very firm roots.

>Don't let the people of Abraham genocide your people.

I'm not, you are.

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>>130826036
>he thinks anyone anywhere thinks the Eddas are a holy book
christcusk everyone
>>130826084
>what about their ancestors? worshippers of the proto-indo-european pantheon
yes its what the thread is about
>what about their animist ancestors?
leave, mongolian scum

>>130826084
Read the thread. This same question was already answered.

>>130826277
Isnt that dude a homo? Not trolling. I was going to buy one of his books but people were saying he is a mo.

>>130826277
so you don't think you had animist ancestors? I'd be willing to bet at least 90% of the human generations before you were either animists or atheists (with magical beliefs concerning burial, corpses, and possibly an afterlife)

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>>130826101
>I'm not, you are.
You say that but still you bend the knee to the Christian god or to its creation, the god of atheism.

>>130826101
So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

You have abrahamic roots my friend, there are no Swedes in God's kingdom

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>>130826542
>atheism is a christian creation
What the fuck is this even supposed to mean

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>>130826416
Yes he is.
>>130826491
Bet all you like but the euopean religions date back to the age of the Neanderthals. Also Odin is quite animistic.

>>130826542
>not following the atheist traditions of your cro-magnon, tree ape, fishfrog, and single-celled ancestors

>>130826702
>the euopean religions date back to the age of the Neanderthals. Also Odin is quite animistic.
are you retarded or just trolling?

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>>130826679
Christianity cuts the roots to peoples ancestors in such a massive way that the only way one can cope is to bend the knee completely to Christ or become an atheist.

It's a shallow religion, when there is no substance of your ancestors in it, when one goes searching for something more, atheism will be the end result.

>>130826542
>bend the knee to the Christian god

?

>or to its creation

You mean reality where also you dwell. I think it the sound thing to do.

>the god of atheism.

Paganism is literal atheism which you ''people'' sugarcoat as ''spiritual connection'' to your ancestors, or in other words LARPing.

However I suppose LARPing is actually a canon worship now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5tL5LFfMts&t

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>>130826888
not an argument

>>130827098
you made ridiculous and unsupported claims. they don't require a rebuttal.

>>130818671
/comfy/

>>130826951
>2017
>not LARPING to reconnect with your ancestors

>>130826951
>Paganism is literal atheism which you ''people'' sugarcoat as ''spiritual connection''

This is what I was getting at. In LaVey Satanism its basically an atheist ego vanity cult. They don't actually believe in Satan but are just edgy fedoras trying to shock people. I was trying to understand if these guys in these threads really believe this shit or not but I don't see much philosophical breakdown.

This chick here seems to believe there is some underlying metaphysic to it all and tries to explain the allegories and myths in connection to these ideas. This is a framework to be built around and shows a deeper understanding. Granted she has some semi-feminist views but there is no real way to separate that in neo-paganism since much of it was matriarchal.

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>larp larp larp larp larp larp larp larp

Your insults hold no power here schlomo.
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>>130826935
>Christianity cuts the roots to peoples ancestors in such a massive way that the only way one can cope is to bend the knee completely to Christ or become an atheist.
How? In what way is family or "ancestors" incompatible with Christianity? The overwhelming majority of both you and I's ancestors have been Christian for centuries.
>It's a shallow religion, when there is no substance of your ancestors in it
There is absolutely nothing more shallow than neopaganism. It is a half assed, politicized effort to revive a religion that died a thousand years ago based on what scraps of information we have from Christian scholars. What is with the utter obsession with your "ancestors"? It's such a vague, meaningless buzzword. I can track my family tree back into the 1700's, and I like to learn about my family and lineage. Why should I abandon the religion of them and my people for what my nameless, faceless, unknowable ancestors might have worshipped?
>atheism will be the end result.
After 2,000 years of Christianity in Europe, atheism as we know it is an incredibly recent development. Europe is still overwhelmingly Christian, even more so just a few decades back.

>>130827206
If your ancestors saw you sprinting through the woods with a Styrofoam sword in your hand, dressed in loincloths they would be embarrassed.

>>130827459
I like some of her ideas but some of them are pretty damn far fetched.

>>130827760
>wearing christian trousers instead of superior ancestral loincloth
christcuck jew somethingsomething

its always the same larping zlovenac

kys

>>130827721
>pic
>expelled jews
>would invite them right back once the next king came to power a decade or two later
lmao
It's the very idea of divine right of kings that made it so easy for jews to keep coming back. You can't touch the king or his court jew property because yahweh put him there. It wasn't like that with pagan germanic kingship.

kill some cult members and torture their children

>>130827956
It was just an example of someone who takes it more literally but sees there is something much more complex underneath the myths and legends. If there were more people doing that from a non relativist/new-age perspective it would be easier to have a theological discussion. I like Survive the Jive and his more recent vids have been better but there is still a lack of explanation for the world view. His recent vid on the tripartite Indo-European soul was excellent and is more to the heart of what I am getting at. This again has roots in Hinduism since they come from a common root.

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>>130828498
Yeah stj has some good content lately. I don't really see though why in these threads paganism always gets attacked and it seems like it needs some super deep mind blowing truth about the various realms of the soul in reincarnation. For all the postulating christians do it basically boils down to believe in a god jesus and you will go to heaven and won't burn in hell. Somehow this is acceptable, while a more "simple" approach to paganism like with the Asatru Folk Assembly isn't good enough.

Lets use the example of the summer solstice. What would be the importance in recognizing this time of the year for me as a modern man if I were to embrace paganism? What is the spiritual message and meaning behind the actions and symbols?

>>130829444
they're both clubs for retarded people who want to play make-believe. at least christianity is a living religion with thousands of years of continuous practice, most christians didn't actively seek out zany ancient stories to believe in, they were born into it.

>>130829444
Well I see where youa re coming from but with Christianity it explains sin as a cause of the condition of the world, it prescribes actions to defeat this etc. I guess if you want someone to believe in a wholly different worldview you have to give people something to go on more than just your word or something that cant be attained elsewhere. For instance if I want "Folk" or fellowship cant I obtain that just as easily in Christianity(used for example). The Zoroastrians do not prosteltyze and you have to be born into the religion. This means they have around 200k followers now. You have to articulate reasons for becoming a pagan if you want more pagans and those reasons have to be complex because life is complex. A cow licking salt and making the world is not a reason to believe in anything. It doesn't explain anything, it has no connection to me or my life.See?

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>>130814528
>tfw you want to heil Odin but don't actually believe he exists
I hate this.

We must rid ourselves of the ways of the violent death worshpping jews. Let us destroy their gods and nurture the earth so that all things may ascend.

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>>130829926
>Christianity it explains sin as a cause of the condition of the world
The vast majority of christians just follow it because of the fear of hell or the reward of heaven. That's about as complex as it gets for like 99% of Christians.

>For instance if I want "Folk" or fellowship cant I obtain that just as easily in Christianity(used for example)
In Christian identity yes. But any church without an explicit white identity you can't. It will eventually work against white interests because that's the way the purity spiral of christianity has led to.

>You have to articulate reasons for becoming a pagan if you want more pagans and those reasons have to be complex because life is complex
Then I wonder were all this revivalism has came from? I think the majority of pagans come to it from their own interest and not someone converting them.

>It doesn't explain anything, it has no connection to me or my life
Yeah man I don't think anyone is trying to convert you. If you don't see the benefit in paganism that's up to you my man. These threads, books, videos, etc, are for people who come to be interested in this on their own. You could say they have came home, not gotten converted.

>>130831060
>Then I wonder were all this revivalism has came from?
I have literally never seen a pagan irl.

>>130831232
You should leave the house once in a while.

>>130814528
KEKAN thread.

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Only Germanic people please

>>130831299
I do. I've seen Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, Sikhs, Hindus, Deadheads, Unitarians, Jews, Mormons... never seen a neopagan. Is there a con I should be attending?

>>130831060

Seems to me modern pagans feel the only reason people converted was fear of death or persecution. By that logic though how sincere could they have been in their own beliefs? I think Christianity had formulated logical arguments (for the time) in support of their beliefs which is how they won the "hearts and minds" of the converted peoples.

I'm not attacking you but you keep doing this whole shoulder shrug deal when confronted with anything beyond "muh people" so I'm bouncing ideas and arguments off of you. I have a legit interest in this subject but I cant engage in self deception so I would need logical arguments and rationalizations for the beliefs and I am probably not alone in that.

>>130827206
You can LARP out in the woods while still being a christian. There is nothing stopping christians from taking part in some of the same sort of ancestral activities. For instance celebrations on the equinoxes andI solstices. I love the old myths as much as any pagan. I just see the old gods as personifications of principles embedded in forms.

>>130826804
/Thread

I wonder if pagans ever get tired of getting so utterly BTFO all the time

>>130820396
Hes a non-white that has absolutetly no connection to anything. why wouldnt he follow hinduism?

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>>130831866
>Seems to me modern pagans feel the only reason people converted was fear of death or persecution.
Well Christians have this idea were missionaries got to the north and people just got baptised and became bible thumpin christians overnight. What happened in a nutshell was that it was a top-down process with kings first and a lot of times the rural people weren't converted for a long time. There's some interesting stories from the Inquisition in Spain where priests would leave the city and go to the countryside and people would have really bizarre beliefs, like this one group of people didn't even know about hell. The kings were also the priests of the time so getting rid of the high priest would put a damper on paganism, although it continued in the rural folk for a long time. Their beliefs eventually just turned into folklore. Read Teutonic mythology by the Grimm brothers for more on that.

>By that logic though how sincere could they have been in their own beliefs?
There's lots of cases were people didn't want to convert. The 4300 saxons for example. I mean fuck, Norway had a civil war over this and tons of people were murdered for not converting. There's a lot of cases of vikings too who get "converted" which was really just baptism, and they would carry on their normal practices. Rollo in Normandy for example.

>I'm not attacking you but you keep doing this whole shoulder shrug deal when confronted with anything beyond "muh people"
Because I'm not a priest and I'm not trying to convert you. People have their own ideals about paganism and you have to figure this out for yourself.

>>130832423

That's rich. How many levels of "woke" are you on with that insightful rebuttal? Cant tell the who are the real niggers anymore with the constant we wuzing with zero academic or theological backing.

You don't even understand the roots of your own ideas. It takes outsiders to explain it to you. Sure sounds like a nigger to me.

>>130831803
Yes I heard there is one called "Comic Con." You'll see lots of Thor followers there. Maybe even a Loki follower or two

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Can you define paganism for me?

>>130832712

Yeah but take Lithuania which was the last to convert. They even repelled the Teutonic crusades but still ended up converting. They have retained their folk practices but are wholly catholic. Its not as simple as "people were forced to". Its not any different than if you were suddenly told you had to stop believing in whatever you believe in. I doubt you can just turn it off like that unless you didn't believe to begin with.

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>>130832712
Also this book

>>130833074
any religion mom and dad don't approve of

>>130833125
It was done through force and through other subversion. It should be pretty damn evident how easy it is to brainwash people now days. Now think about how easy it would have been back then.

>>130833074
Ǫnd þau né átto, óð þau né hǫfðo,
lá né læti né lito góða.
Ǫnd gaf Óðinn, óð gaf Hœnir,
lá gaf Lóðurr ok lito góða

>>130832738
Talking to neopagan nordicist wiggers is like talking to a wall. If the facts are against them, be it history or population genetics, they will simply tell you that the evidence is fabricated. They're maybe one step above afrocentrists but that doesn't say much.

>>130832738
What the fuck are you even going on about? Just fuck off you sound like some 12yr old that thinks hes the smartest ever because he watch some youtube now he now knows everything!

>>130833507
This only applies to christcucks.

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>>130833074
Atheism isn't edgy enough so now they larp to feel special

>>130817811
This
Dont be a semite about it

>>130833125
Did you not read my post?
> Its not as simple as "people were forced to"
I addressed that. The cheiftan or king would be a high priest and the ideal of divine right of kings was a pretty big selling point on the religion imo. Not to mention the fact that the Franks just btfo the saxons and every other pagan kingdom in the Germanic world is bordering on what is basically the dominant superpower of the day. Some kings probably did get converted because after initial tries, the churches would send teachers to the royal court to fully instruct the kings. So anyways you have the high-priest or a chieftan gone who would regularly have held the most important rituals and all that and yeah the conversion process as we know it would follow after that. Get rid of your enemy's leaders and they'll collapse.

Seriously read this book.
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>>130833507

When will you idiots learn to not respond to shills

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>>130833966
Pagans are nothing but the newest pets the jews have.

>>130820147
It says turning the other cheek is a vitue, not a requirement.

The bible is a guidebook, there are parts that say how a man and woman receive love, how defending yourself and your family is a good thing, encouraging strong families and moral foundations.

It even mentions borrowing money, and how a man who doesnt take care of his family is worse than a nonbeliever.

Many protestants have watered down the scriptures into hippie bullshit and know nothing about the actual gospel.

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>>130834424
>It says turning the other cheek is a vitue, not a requirement.
Dude, turning the other cheek is the heart of Jesus's philosophy. It's a requirement. Celibacy is an optional virtue, responding to injury without revenge is not. When they came for Muhammad, he gave them the sword. When they came for Jesus, he gave up his life.

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>>130834525
The samurai see Christians as brothers in arms in their struggle against the Jew. Why can't you?

>>130834896
I don't give a shit about you non-white fuckheads.

>>130834658
Thats because Jesus is the son of God, man can strive for perfection of God, and he should, but it is impossible.

Again, turning the other cheek and letting yourself get fucked is not a requirement.

Restraint, mercy, and forgiveness are great Christian virtues, but man is not perfect.

>>130834896
the samurai are as dead as the vikings and romans.

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>>130825864
Let's make right-wing Segway druidism a thing.

>>130835135
"sin is fine because we're only human" is a shit argument. we are expected to sin, and forgiven of our sins, but that doesn't mean following christ's teachings isn't a requirement.

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>>130834658
>turning the other cheek is the heart of Jesus's philosophy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3jwS-94WGs

Good video by Varg

>>130835278
kek. How has he not been arrested though?

>>130835292
Last time I checked "Turn the other cheek "wasnt a commandment.

>>130835181
It blows my mind that one of the oldest symbols in mankind is now forbidden to gaze upon. If audio frequencies can effect your mind maybe visual patterns can as well.

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>>130835380
(((Varg "Christians are the true enemy" Vikernes)))

>>130835530
>How has he not been arrested though?
>article about him being arrested
wut?

>>130833074
isn't just nature worship?

>>130835380
Varg explains all the reasons why you shouldn't be a christcuck

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>>130835900
Shit I must've read right over that.

>>130835631
>You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

Where is the ambiguity?

>>130833074
indigenous folk religion

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>>130836007
Yeah the guy is a genius

>>130836163
Virtue =/= commandment.

>>130836306
"I tell you do not" sounds like a directive to me. where does it say "it'd be great if you did this but it's totally cool if you don't"?

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>>130836279
He's an anti-white controlled opposition kike

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>>130837593
Fucking murder all heathens

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>>130837674
Gas the pag*ns

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>>130837674
Pagans are just another kind of SJW's and useful idiots for the jew

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bump for chaos

>>130814528
The national "get wasted " day

>>130836577
Luke 11:21
Matt 5:38-39
Exodus 22:2-3
Romans 12:18-21
Matt 24:43
Luke 11:21
Luke 22:36-38
Ecclesiastes 3:8