Let's talk about eugenics

>>130813243
eugenics should always be voluntary like abortion to avoid controversy.

in fact abortion is one of the only things thats stopping the nigger population from exploding.

>>130813628
I would say make it mandatory to try and remove things like bad eyesight. Get all the trash out of the genepool

>>130813243
>What are the risks and benefits?
Risks: people will cry and call you a Nazi
Benefits: The world becomes populated with superior people and we achieve world peace.

It's worth it.

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>>130813243
Transhumanism is superior

>>130813243

where do i get a wizard spider?

>>130814090
That's Grand Imperial Wizard Spider to you!

you realize that almost ever moron claling for this would be put down?


of course you don't becasue pol is a pool of useful idiots as it always has been

>>130813628
My siblings and I have basically opted for this. We have absolutely shit genes, and we don't want to continue spreading them.

>>130813898
>bad eyesight.
But bad eyesight loosely correlates with intelligence, and it's easily fixed with glasses or contacts. It would be a good idea to treat it with gene therapy, but never breeding. Pick something that matters like genetic disorders first.

>>130814020
Well, one risk is that a smaller gene pool can make a species more at risk to certain viruses that target specific people.

>>130813243
If evolution is true, then eugenics works. The problem is that people think its very bad to prohibit some people from reproducing or killing them to prevent reproduction.

>>130813243
Every environment selects for something, therefore we should make sure ours selects for traits that we find desirable.

>>130814195
Go ahead and tell me how should that work as a counter-argument against eugenics. You're trying to appeal to the self-preservation instinct, but humans are conscious enough to see past that.
Consider this, my life isn't worth much so even having it put down for the greater future of mankind shouldn't worry me enough to rise against eugenics.
Consider also that if eugenics were long since practiced, removing the trash from the gene pool, then either I wouldn't have been trash as a result of selection, or I would have never been born. Either way no complaints here.
Your appeal is invalid.

>>130814284
The human gene pool is probably larger than any other organism on earth. Even with Eugenics I wouldn't worry about that. Even though whites are at risk of becoming a minority in their own countries, there are still more of us alive on the planet now than at any other point in history.

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>>130813243
It's been (((shunned))) indeed.

https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/07/against-good-breeding/
http://www.eugenics.net/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1YVM_H_dk

>>130814195
>implying they couldn't be sterilized instead

>>130814195
Eugenics doesn't require sterilization or euthanasia, it can be done through incentives.

>>130814912
So it's being practiced already, motivating white women to go black.

>>130813243
The best thing to do for white countries is to remove ALL nonwhites. If you're pro eugenics, transhumanism, or whatever but you aren't an advocate for this then you're an idiot. Other than sterilizing people who are retarded or something else equally as bad for society, eugenics would be mostly positively reinforced. We would need another program like Hitler's SS - they weren't allowed to marry anyone less aryan than them and were basically the first ever step towards creating space marines.

>>130814053
Transhumanism is pushed by kikes and nonwhites. Niggers have shit genetics and know that they will always be shit even with eugenics, whereas whites could be vastly improved through simple eugenics in only a few generations.

>>130814511
The main problem with (((hollywood))) and our cancerous media is that it creates a culture that elevates the worst human traits as desireable. So we have single moms and coal burners because fidelity and family are old fashioned and oppressive.

We forget that the values humans held for thousands of years surrounding marriage were there for a reason. They weren't arbitrary and these values were codified in the Bible because they helped humans survive. Cultures that value decadence and whoredom don't last long for reasons /pol/ is well aware of.

>>130814053
>US
>democracy
>American education

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>>130815018
No, that would be dysgenics.
Also that's a very uncommon pairing, white women are the least likely to reproduce with someone of another race.

>>130815115
Hollywood also makes people think that eugenics = giving kids a standardized test at the age of ten and killing them if they don't score high enough, which is just silly

>>130815115
>The main problem with (((hollywood))) and our cancerous media is that it creates a culture that elevates the worst human traits as desireable.
>We forget that the values humans held for thousands of years surrounding marriage were there for a reason. They weren't arbitrary and these values were codified in the Bible because they helped humans survive.
Yes, exactly. That's why we need to reinstate those values while also encouraging those with high IQs and good health to reproduce more than people who don't.
>>130815292
>Hollywood also makes people think that eugenics = giving kids a standardized test at the age of ten and killing them if they don't score high enough, which is just silly
An why do you think that is?

>>130814912
its already a thing gene modding will be part of the future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR

but still if you want to avoid a massive chimpout and controversy eugenics should always be voluntary and should be encouraged with incentives.
>>130815292
exactly the view of eugenics is heavly stigmztized by misconceptions eugenics doesnt necessarily imply extermination.

>>130815038
>Transhumanism is pushed by kikes and nonwhites.
There are a lot of kikes pushing for transhumanism, but I don't know of any non-White transhumanists. What we should do about the Jewish problem is create a pro-White transhumanist movement as a counter to the Jewish transhumanist movement.

>Niggers have shit genetics and know that they will always be shit even with eugenics, whereas whites could be vastly improved through simple eugenics in only a few generations.
Both niggers and Whites could both be improved significantly more with transhumanism and genetic engineering than they could with inefficient eugenics. The solutions that Darwinian evolution comes up with arise through random mutation, take a while to be selected for, and are not always ideal.

>>130814053
Libertarianism and Liberalism are the same thing

>>130815931
>what is the welfare state

>>130813243

guys

the best way to go about this is to do voluntary sterilization with a monetary reward

believe it or not, nignogs just wanna fuck without repercussions so they might even accept if it was for free

>>130815993
Socialism

>>130816126
Maybe the term "liberalism" is used differently in the UK than it is here in the States. Here, most "liberals" are socialists to some extent, and "libertarians" are pro-free market, anti-welfare state, and anti-regulation, except also want legal weed, gay marriage, etc., unlike conservatives.

>>130813243
Let's imagine something for a while:
>you're in a country when you can vote only after passing a "I'm intelligent and I know my country's political situation" test
>you get to have 1 children without any string attached
>for second, you have to pass special test that determines if you aren't a total shithead and you deserve to be a parent
>for third you have to pass the voting test
>for any more you have to contact gov't and they will or will not grant you additional "child slots" if you have useful traits
What would be wrong with this?

>>130815927
>niggers could be improved
Why would you be interested in this? Technology won't give them humanity. You know nothing of culture, art, or aesthetics. What makes you thing your kikehumanism would even work? What makes you think it wouldn't irreversibly fuck up entire generations of stock?
>inefficient eugenics
>implying
You're just an idiot

The problem with capitalism and money being the God of this world is its effect on breeding. Being rich is the single greatest thing you can do to have a sexy wife and raise many children. There are lots of shit people in the world who are good at making money, and lots of great people in the world who are not. But the modern world has extreme selective pressure for breeding on people who make money... At least for whites. Minorities just don't give a fuck and they get more benefits and are less selective in their mates. Very few extremely beautiful white women will settle for a man who isn't rich because they know how easy it is to just find a rich one who will take care of her, who she can divorce later for any reason and get millions of dollars.

For much of human history, the traits that made a man a good provider were many, but now money = provider.

I firmly believe that if the human race is to survive we NEED Eugenics. Humans as they are are fucked up and no religion or cult or value system will fix that as well as simply creating better humans. We also don't have the time to do this through breeding. We need to genetically modify people.

>>130816453
there are already voting tests in america and voter id laws that help greatly to reduce the number of niggers and retards who vote.

Gene Pool will be obsolete in no more than 3 generations and by extension eugenics itself. Everyone will just have meme designer babies.

>>130816676
Ummm no, there are no voting tests. And voter ID laws are laughable. Even wanting niggers to have something as basic as an ID to vote makes liberals flip out and cry racism. Illegal immigrants vote here in the millions.

I am all for eugenics so long as it does not involve culling or sterlizing living people.
SPESS MUHREEN WHEN

>>130816925
wasnt there a thing called no taxation without representation? where as exchange for paying tax to the goverment you get to vote in the us?

>>130816851
>implying this is a sustainable and safe method of advancing humanity's evolution
"Don't worry about the genetics of your partner, goy. In a few generations it won't even matter! You can just head on down to your local McBaby center and pick out whichever one you want"

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>>130814020
Risks included GATTACA genetic hiring.

>>130816925
A shame, but expected. After all, no populist will reduce their voting base.
>>130817031
Just ban them from having more than X children, then... Force abortions or neuter them, if they're repeated offenders.

>>130816064
I've been thinking this as well.

>>130817155
or there could be a gene market where the high quality genes/semen are sold.

the second option is gene modding.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR

these are the best options for quik eugenics.

all of the mainstream scientists are for this but nobody's allowed to talk about it in 2017. it would mean the end of black people lol

>>130816676
>>130816925
Some states used to have literacy tests that were too hard for nigs to pass. I think we should do the same thing but instead of literacy we do civic history knowledge tests. It would stop idiots from voting.
>In Lassiter v. Northampton County Board of Elections (1959), the U.S. Supreme Court held that literacy tests were not necessarily violations of Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment nor of the Fifteenth Amendment. Southern states abandoned the literacy test only when forced to do so by federal legislation in the 1960s. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 provided that literacy tests used as a qualification for voting in federal elections be administered wholly in writing and only to persons who had completed six years of formal education.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_test#Voting
So tests are fine, but instead of being railed against for demonstrating niggers aren't intelligent as whites we can use civics instead to show they don't even understand the government they rely on.

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>>130813243
>It's been all but shunned by modern science,

Eugenics is obsolete. It's been superceded by gene therapy.

Eugenics is simply "selective breeding"; it's a hit and miss affair, as any farmer will tell you.

"Pure blooded" animals are genetically unfit, they suffer from a host of genetic problems, including sterility. Mongrels are fitter, in genetic terms.

>>130813243
There's a Wikipedia article on new eugenics (basically, voluntary eugenics)

>>130813628
abortion is eugenics... are you trying to (you) me?

>>130817476
exactly there should be something like a political awereness test or a history test to weed out the morons.

libretards dont realize that democracy is only as good as the education surounding it you dont want morons who dont know anything about the economy/the diffrent party policies voting.

>>130817674
Only when subhumans do it

Eugenics relies on a lot of garbage science and is too easily abused by interest groups to be effective. It is just class warfare instead of actually being a true attempt at breeding better humans. Just be more selective of who you have babies with.

>>130817533
Finally a good reply.

>>130817674
it is a form of eugenics it keeps the nigger population from exploding also retards are aborted very frequently.

the best part is that its voluntary so theres no controversy or chimpouts about it.

>>130817112
>implying randomize mutations over millions of years is more effective than literally intelligent design.

How do you breath and regulate your blood pressure at the same time with such a low nueron count?

>>130817533
>pure blooded animals are genetically unfit
Based on what? People inbreeding show dogs?
You're also implying that the genetic complexity and variability of humans is the same as corn

>>130817963
you're misatributing semantics, which is a very Jewish thing to do. You imply that human evolution and eugenics are "random". You're obviously projecting

>>130817835
The use of eugenics should be taught in school. Teach kids the value of successful mates, and what characteristics mates should have.

However, eugenics should be used in the case of severe mental illness, IMHO.

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>>130813243
Well for one we don't understand our nature hardly at all.

1) the biome cloud and internal biome have evolved with us. we not only need the genetics of a signfiicant few million people we also need the genetics of 10s of thousands of microbes living on those few million people before we hope to understand an iota of what we are genetically.
we can still breed correctly but this is a slower seemingly more random process It will take at least 3 generations to see improvement b/c

2. Epigenetic factors, genes are constantly turned on and off in response to the world around us. A lot of that variability is transcoded into the various eggs that are made during female embryonic growth, meaning your maternal grandmother's womb environment gave you most of the information you need to survive today. Men make sperm constantly so we are constantly recoding for the present days threats. Its also why when you're peaking women throw themselves at you. Its not a lie that once you've got a gf all the other girls want a piece.

3rd. By comparison the tools we have to manipulate genetics are crude as can be had.
imagine a molecular cannon shooting bundles of 'gene' corpses into a group of 'gene' soldiers in formation. Doing so the formation re assembles some of the injured soldiers may take zombie body parts to heal their injuries.
Thing is this is a 13th century cannon, can barely aim.
Now the accessory damage done and other recombinant effects are random. We did get a couple zombies in their formation but many broke apart on impact. We got what we wanted say glow in the dark night vision but we also got fucking high grade headaches.
Geneticists say that 99% of the genetic code is redundant garbage, but I really doubt it, more likely they simply don't understand it.

>>130816477
>Why would you be interested in this?
Because the reason niggers hate Whites is largely because of envy, and because they think of themselves as inferior. Allowing them to modify their genes to have intelligence on par with Whites would allow them to become truly equal.

>Technology won't give them humanity.
Define "humanity".

>You know nothing of culture, art, or aesthetics.
Translation: Transhumanism hurts my feefees

>What makes you thing your kikehumanism would even work?
Because a lot of this technology is being developed currently. Have you never heard of CRISPR? Regenerative medicine? Artificial wombs? Cryonics? The rate of technological advancement has been growing exponentially, and there is no reason to suspect that it will stop in the near future,

>What makes you think it wouldn't irreversibly fuck up entire generations of stock?
Other than some disaster that leads to humanity going extinct, I have no idea how this would happen. Your thinking seems to be affected by loss aversion.

>inefficient eugenics
>implying
>You're just an idiot
Using reprogenetics and modifying the genes of embryos would be a lot more efficient than eugenics as traditionally practiced.

>>130818713
The reason we don't do that now is because it would mean teaching that nonwhites are inferior

>>130817835
>only focus on your own offspring
>their offspring have to mate with 80 IQ plebs because not enough people were selective
good plan.

It's called vaccines and junk food.

>>130818479
>You're also implying that the genetic complexity

Humans in isolated communities suffer from a greater number of genetic defects.

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>>130814053
Transhumanism is deus ex machina for liberals.

>>130818713
>The use of eugenics should be taught in school

It's taught in agricultural colleges.

It's also been rendered obsolete by genetic science.

>>130818874
To me this only serves as an argument for traditional eugenics and against transhumanism and all that gene therapy and designer baby shit

The easiest and most effective way to perform eugenics on a population would be to buy drugs from dealers, then mix those drugs with some sort of chemical castration compound, then sell it out on the market again. The drug users will then get sterilized.

This could also be directed at prisons, during the smuggling process of the drugs into the prison, a middle man mixes all the drugs with a chemical castration compound and then sends the drug forward until it is smuggled into the prison. There most drug using prisoners will get sterilized.

With these simple techniques society will get rid of all the offspring from drug users, who usually have a very low iq, horrible impulse control and other undesirable traits. Best part is that it won't be noticeable since the sterilization won't be discovered before they actually try to make children.

>>130819039
Transhumanism is the deus ex machina of reality.

>>130819237
Transreality. Technology will make all the problems go away.

>>130819369
Suffering is caused by chemical reactions in the brain. I see no reason why with sufficient technology, the brain couldn't be modified to eliminate suffering and increase happiness.

>>130818881
>still preaching multiculturalism
>still caring about niggers
Why don't you just kill yourself?

>kikehumanism will work because I like trying to predict the future
>based on the fact that the lightbulb was invented, we should be able to recreate the sun in about thirty years

>I have no idea how the artificial manipulation of humanity's genes by people who have never seen anything like this in all of human history could go wrong
>lmao who cares if kikes are gonna be the ones doing it. They always have our best interests in mind
>haha I'm ok with the white race being used as a Guinness pig
Also, just as a reminder, you're a nigger lover and therefore inherently are not working or thinking in the interests of the white race

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>>130819534
There is no possible way this could go awry. When we're all perfect we can retry the utopian schemes that we failed to achieve in the past.

>>130819534
You're a hedonist and should be sent to a camp. You would have the west fall to decadence

>>130819851
>Nearly all western thought since the last war, certainly all “progressive” thought, has assumed tacitly that human beings desire nothing beyond ease, security and avoidance of pain. In such a view of life there is no room, for instance, for patriotism and the military virtues. The Socialist who finds his children playing with soldiers is usually upset, but he is never able to think of a substitute for the tin soldiers; tin pacifists somehow won’t do. Hitler, because in his own joyless mind he feels it with exceptional strength, knows that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, short working-hours, hygiene, birth-control and, in general, common sense; they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flags and loyalty-parades. However they may be as economic theories, Fascism and Nazism are psychologically far sounder than any hedonistic conception of life.

>George Orwell

>>130819210
Most niggers probably wouldn't even notice it.

This thread is truly an interesting experiment for /pol/. You can see right wing and left wing people fighting each other over the same topic under different names. Improving human qualities and removing defects is not a Jewish plot and neither does it wish to kill cultures or whites. Unless you're concerned the Jewish Illuminati want to abuse this or your white supremacy dreams are threatened this it's a no-brainer. Then again /pol/ has a habit of fighting and denying science.

>>130820249
Transhumanism isn't science it's wishful thinking.

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>>130813243

FOR DIVERSITY ONLY
clearly defined races...

whites
blacks
chinks
japs
indians
persians
americas natives

race mixing dilutes races and creates bronze soup... destroys diversity

regardless of what Hitler said, if you leave inferior races to their own devices they'll eventually destroy themselves or remain at the same level anyway

>>130818999

Wake the fuck up and look at the trips. You retards don't realize eugenics is ongoing atm.

>>130820249
Wow you really know how to take a step back and view things from a clear and unbiased perspective. We should all aspire to reach your level of understanding

>>130819708
>still preaching multiculturalism
I never preached multiculturalism

>still caring about niggers
Only to make them more civilized and stop them from chimping out

>based on the fact that the lightbulb was invented, we should be able to recreate the sun in about thirty years
False equivalence. You obviously haven't researched any of this.

>I have no idea how the artificial manipulation of humanity's genes by people who have never seen anything like this in all of human history could go wrong
Loss aversion

>lmao who cares if kikes are gonna be the ones doing it. They always have our best interests in mind
I literally never implied that the kikes had our best interests in mind.

>>130819851
Then what should humanity aspire to, if not hedonism?

>>130820411
Why?

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>>130820583
You should. There's nothing to lose from removing genetic differences that divide us and make our lives miserable. If people don't need to worry about this we can cooperate and make the world a better place. What's wrong with that?

>>130820601
Human nature isn't abolished by technological advancement. Leftist ideologies fail because people are inherently unequal. Transhumanism provides a magic hope that technology will make everyone smart, healthy, peaceful, and equal. Science is about trying to discern a theory from evidence.

>>130819210
Or just offer "free health screening" with x rays in degenerate/shitskin neighborhoods and aim the beam a hair too low. ZAP, no more functional reproductive cells.

The future is just a bunch of tyrons and stacys that are smarter than Hawkins and live for hundreds of years.

Once the Tech is normalized noone will be having Beta manlets. Forgone conclusion.

If we are to begin breeding better himan beings, we must start with the best available breeding stock. Of women, the most beautiful are Jews, so for the matriarchs of our new master race we should choose mostly or entirely Jews.

>>130813628
except flat earthers. We should be deploying flat earther castration squads.

>>130820600
You literally think that niggers would be an acceptable addition to humanity if only they were more like cattle. Why not just castrate them and keep them in chains then?

>you obviously haven't researched any of this
Yeah, super obvious. Who cares about facts when something is just so "obvious"?

>what should humanity aspire to, if not hedonism
Holy shit. Have you ever read any books? Seriously, do you just wake up in the morning and eat a big bowl of kosher-o's?
How do you expect people to take you seriously when you advocate for the acceptance of niggers and aspirations towards hedonism?

>>130814257
Squitcucks will defend this

>>130818881
you beautiful autistic bastard!

>>130820950
You assume equality is inherently unachievable. I disagree, especially considering major advances we made in the last centuries concerning health. Descendants of peasants who otherwise would've been condemned to miserable lives can now live on equal terms and even surpass the wealthy. Health should not be part of human nature. It's a right we all deserve. You and I wouldn't be here most likely without it. Likewise, what you call transhumanism is not magic. Life is important and the more control we have over it the more we can curb suffering. We are already making progress with genetic engineering, birth scans, surgeries and so on. It won't be long until automation kicks in too, and if we are not prepared we will end up in a global civil war. Feel free to disagree with me.

>>130821908
Ok this guy is definitely jewish

>>130813243
Anon should google eugenics in the U.S. It was practiced up until the 60s. Hitler modeled his program after ours. Makes you wonder why everything went to shit after the 60s does it not.

>>130822186
Do you actually have some arguments?

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>>130813243
Mate, I want to cook that pic. Fry the shit out of it.
Fucking triggered. Well played.

>>130822352
You need to lurk moar and read some books. You're an idiot. Engaging with that post would be like going to reddit and trying to argue politics over there for thirty minutes. It's not worth it. Your first fucking point was that equality is achievable for fucks sake

>>130821509
>You literally think that niggers would be an acceptable addition to humanity if only they were more like cattle. Why not just castrate them and keep them in chains then?
Genociding niggers is one option. In a hypothetical war between transhumanists and non-transhumanists, the transhumanists will almost certainly win. much like the advant of firearms and nuclear weapons. From a transhumanist perspective, adopting transhumanism would make exterminating non-transhumanist nigger far easier.

>Holy shit. Have you ever read any books? Seriously, do you just wake up in the morning and eat a big bowl of kosher-o's?
It's not that I am unaware of any other philosophical ideas of what our terminal values should be, i.e. asceticism, deontology, etc. I am just asking what are YOUR PERSONAL terminal values.

>How do you expect people to take you seriously when you advocate for the acceptance of niggers and aspirations towards hedonism?
I literally never said that we should accept niggers you illiterate retard.

>>130817533
>gene therapy.
Whom does that benefit anon. Think.

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>>130819170
I'll go back to the We don't know what we don't know just yet. and what we do know that we don't know is massive.

Assuming adaptability to changing circumstances is the goal. Natures non-committal without prolonged exposure style of adaption seems to be good.

Currently if we are researching these so called strengths we may wish to know of side effects.
For example increased intelligence correlates with autism.
We can push the "balance" too far and it is a generation lost.

I'm in favor of a more robust and capable species sure. but for now eugenics is a step too far b/c of our ineptitude and gross understanding.
We do not wish to become like the Jews. Intelligent fragile misshapen ogres with a short prime of life.

https://www.ted.com/talks/temple_grandin_the_world_needs_all_kinds_of_minds

For now it is far more valuable for the sake of research to keep these abnormals around. because we don't fully understand if they are in fact subgenic or supergenic-overloading cofactors.

any attempt to rush the balance is guaranteed to have unintended consequences and we do not have the tools to detect, predict, guard against, or repair any damage we might do. Except forced mixing. Which we know is fucking awful, i.e. the jewish mongrel rape baby.

As such my position is to encourage progenic strategy. High economy -> High birthrates -> growing genetic pool + increased genetic variance.

If the browns get uppity we can always go to war. With white flight still a thing and interacial couples being a minimum We don't have to fear much subversion currently.

>>130814710
Nigga it's unironically one of the smallest.

>>130816509
>I firmly believe that if the human race is to survive we NEED Eugenics.
I agree.
Natural selection at the moment drives Africa to become the most populous continent in less than a hundred years and none of it is due to their own prolific achievements but solely by being useless niggers who get fed by guild-tripped whites. Latter ones never breed at all and are therefore a genetic dead end.
That's a perversion of genetic fitness. It's outright degeneracy to mass breed subhuman niggers while letting the top stock go to shit at the same time. But that's where evolution is driving right now.

>>130822767
So you think transhumanism and normal people will go to war? And that it will be hand to hand combat and chess matches or something? I think you lack the ability to accurately play out scenarios in your head. You're dillusional
And why do you keep pretending that you don't love niggers and kikes?

>>130813243
It has to be done with a collective wisdom we're nowhere near yet. If eugenics catches on while pomos are running the show (as they do now) we'll die out in 50 years.

>>130823592
We definitely have to get rid of the Jews before make any attempts with serious eugenics

>>130817533
This

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The sperm of the intelligent and healthy should be stockpiled in banks and marketed to the masses. Intelligent and healthy donors should also consider becoming sperminators.

Call the sperm 'super sperm.' Tell them this sperm will create superior offspring, and these offspring will make you rich, and solve all your problems. The sperm is the cure all. Resurrect the idea of genetic determinism - that genes play a large role in a person's success in life. Convince people that, with the right genes, life will be a breeze, a piece of cake - success will come naturally.

This process, Called Eutelegenisis, will transform humans into a new super race. This super race will create a utopia on earth. There will be no nations, no war, no hunger, no crime, no suffering, technological progress will accelerate, all hard work will be automated. The air will be clean, the rivers pure, the environment will be protected. Everything will be glorious.

>>130817533
Hybrid Vigour is a spook.

>>130822721
So you don't want to debate in the end? I'm not interesting in shitposts.

>>130823917
Sperm banks promote cuckoldry and single mothers
Is this post even serious? I really can't tell. I mean the basic idea makes sense even though it's flawed and severely incomplete, but the pitch of "glorious utopia" is pretty silly

>>130824553
No. This thread would be better if if everyone just his the leftists and transhumanists. You people aren't getting us anywhere. Why not study Hitler's eugenics program?

>>130813243
Eugenics.

Fuck you nu-/pol/ fuck off back to plebbit.

>>130824789
>when reddit tells /pol/ to go back to plebbit.

>>130824686
Hitler's plan is outdated. He tried to eliminate genetic disorders but he injected his Aryan delusions and anti-semitism in the mix. There is nothing inherently wrong genetically speaking for Jews, especially Askhenazi Jews who bear a resemblance to European populations. Methods today are less crude. Rounding people up only gets you pissed off families and tyrannical labels. When concepts like designer babies are becoming feasile i.e pregnancies are already aborted when there are hints of a malformation or other genetic disorder, we shouldn't accept genocide as a solution.

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>>130825985
Nu-/pol/ has been going on for so long that nu-faggots don't know that /pol/ is a white christian board.
Stop roleplaying that you're a conservative and go back to your video games fag

>>130813243
The hypothesis works but not the reality

>>130813243
>risks and benefits

The biggest risk is that we don't have a complete knowledge of our genetics and their workings. Meaning that we might select genetics that we think correlate with Intelligence, longevity and strength. But in a couple of generations when the other genetics are out of our genepool there crop up some problems we didn't think of.

If stone age people had access to eugenics we would be amazing at hunting and making stone tools but probably would never have progressed into agriculture and writing.

It's possible that in a world hundreds of years from now with AI doing all the physical and mental labour people that are intelligent are obsolete and we want compassionate artistically creative people instead.

To decide what are the best genetics for humanity you need to also be able to predict the future. We don't even know what most of our singular genetics do. Let alone interactions between those genes.

We are not advanced enough to practice Eugenics. Yes we have the technology due to CRIPSR to apply it. But we don't have the knowledge to foresee what genetics we need to alter.

>>130826152
>"aryan dillusions"
>Implying antisemitism is wrong
Stopped reading right there

>>130828469
Sorry your biases prevent you from arguing with people who contradict your view. Improvement is made through debate, not shooting down things you disagree with.

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>>130813243

Eugenics only works if you do mass Culling/Sterilization and/or Selective Breeding/Cloning.

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>>130815931
Libertarianism is the liberalism of locke and adams
liberalism in today world is the 1910 bs pushed by kikes as social-liberalism (when they had to make the fed in USA)

>>130828835
The debates have already been made countless times. You need to lurk more

>>130830443
god dammit frank this thread is already shit enough we don't need you here too

>>130824562
>Is this post even serious?
of course I'm serious.
1. The family life is not super important, because 'super humans' will rise above any problems at home.
2. We don't know the limits of human intelligence, that is why it is so fun to fantasize about the utopia we might be able to create if we elevate the intelligence of humanity to a whole new level.
3. stupidity is a disease. sperm is the vaccine - it inoculates future generations from the disease that is stupidity.

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>>130826333
>worship the Jew
I come to /pol/ to get away from that nonsense.

>>130831096
>the family life is not super important

>>130813243
We all take part in social eugenics. So I have no idea what people are on about.