LIBERALS OF /POL/

cultural enrichment

>>130804950
That implies that their culture somehow enriches ours, which it doesn't.

Uhh... not letting in refugees is obviously racist and sexist, sweetums. That's not emotions that's a FACT. Not like you science denying rednecks would know anything about those.

It's settled science, sweetiepies.

>>130804836

*Insert appeal to emotion here* #OPENBORDERSFORISRAEL

>>130804836
Increasing spheres of influence. Its why we had so many fucking proxy wars with the commies.

Think of all the new restaurants (please ignore the increased crime)

>>130805237
Racism is bad, pumpkins, we know you learned this in our indoctrination camp so I don't why you guys insist on denying it

>>130805365
whose influence on who?

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>>130804836
All the terrorism has been perpetrated by the children of immigrants, not immigrants themselves so CHECKMATE

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>>130804836
European countries shouldn't allow refugees in. Instead they should forcibly annex the countries they're coming from and enrich the cultures of the areas to civilize them and prevent such barbarism as is currently happening from reoccurring in the future.

It's the only way you ever get a unified Earth without being fucking retarded about it. Expansion, reasonable exploitation, and eventual parity.

It's inhumane to let them die in their country. We're better than this as a society

>>130805365

How does that increase the host country's sphere of influence? It appears to only increase the native country's sphere of influence.

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>>130805493

>Democracy = free stuff

This isn't even ape levels of intelligence, at least when apes know a word they actually understand it.

>>130805237
>Hurr, durr, I'm a leaf.

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>>130805518
>no appeals to emotion
>appeals to emotion

>>130804836
I'm a hardcore environmentalist and we shouldn't let these people in because all they do is breed en masse and shit up any place they live. We should stop giving these fucks aid because the global population is way too fucking high yet somehow it's only ok if some retarded subhuman with the IQ of a sheep has multiple children. Fuck them all.

>>130805512
I mean, you were barring emotional appeals, but the reality is that most emotional appeals to allow in endless refugees sound like they're from the mind of Derek Zoolander. You can't sustain a society by allowing in uneducated, uncultured, disrespectful people one step from living in tribes. And no, these people can't self-govern. That's been proven.

>>130805365
You do not do that by importing, you expand your influence by exporting things. Garbage countries expand their influence to Europe by exporting trash. And that is of no benefit to Europe and it's inhabitants. Except Sweden, they import trash with a purpose.

>>130805470
The US on the country they take in refuguees from. When they go back to wherever shithoke they came from they take the ideas implanted in them when they were refugees. We treated german POWs well in WW2 and put them to work with families on farms and shit.

they will vote for my team and i can win again

as always, liberals and nupols always creating slide threads , bait threads, shilling , etc but when confronted with arguments or asked to make a case of their beliefs they are nowhere to be found.

>>130805678
It's not an appeal to emotion.
It's a truth that refusing to help fellow members of the human race shows that you're inhumane.
Our society has no point in existing if we don't care about each other.

But I understand that calling "appeal to emotion" every argument against your limited views is simpler for you

>>130805518
>I can not fallow a simple rule because I'm retarded.

Laws are man-made and can be bent and broken when necessary.
In times of life-threatening danger, it's everyone's right to seek safety.

That's all refugees are, and refugees are always welcome.

>>130804836

Governments are organizations created through violence upon the innocent. They are a criminal gang, therefore they have no rights. Governments have no right to stop anyone from moving anywhere, because they shouldn't exist, on account of being criminal organizations.

>>130806196

>Inhumanity
>1. Lack of pity or compassion.
2. An inhuman or cruel act.

Exactly what fucking part of that does not revolve around emotions?

>>130806023
>refugees
>going back
You've really no idea how this works, have you?

>>130804836
more black dick for justins wife

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>>130805237
What the heck did you just say about me, you little honey bun? iI’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Cutie Patooties, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret tweets on Daddy Trump, and I have over 300 confirmed snookims. I am trained in butter biscuits and I’m the top sweetie in the entire US sugar doodles. You are nothing to me but just another Daddy. I will cuddle you the heck out with warmth the likes of which has never been felt before on this Earth, mark my words. You think you can get away with saying that dookie doo to me over the Internet? Think again, cutie. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of Mommies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the huggie wuggies, deary. The huggies that wipes out the silly little thing you call your meanie doodles. You’re in trouble, Daddy. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can tweet you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in butter boops, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Cutie Wooties Fruity Tooties and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your widdle face, you little cutie pie. If only you could have known what huggie wuggies your little “tweetie weetie” was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your mouthy wouthy. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, honey buns. I will wiggle woop all over you and you will drown in it. You’re really sweet, honey.

>>130805996
You can do it via exports but that only goes so far. I can take a vacation to italy. Or i can go to an italian resturaunt. Which would increase my sphere of influence more?

>>130805237
Racism-shaming is an emotional construct.

>>130806196
It's not feasible to help developing areas by importing there people, population growth there is ofter higher than the rate of emigration anyway. The only real long term solution is to fix their existing conditions were they stand.

>>130806196
>its not nice if we dont let them in, we are bad people
Not appealing to emotion
Do you know what appealing to reason is faggot? Find examples below
It will be good for our economy.
It will increase our nation's export
It will increase our people's average IQ
Those that come are respected scientists/doctors/athletes etc that will boost our country's growth/international prestige

end example. Does any of the above seem legit to you? I guess... no? try your own, lets see if that works.

>>130804836
Even if treated as a fluid the issue can be treated as a precious fluid that (by physics) has nowhere to go. A precious fluid should be kept in a secure reservoir and pumped back to the strata it was ejected from.

>>130805453
This is literally the only valid argument here.
>though the now-comers won't open restaurants

>>130806735
That is, after the earthquake/disruption

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>>130804836
Organization of countries is always built on emotion. Justice, destiny, consumerism, wealth and all other spooks are only enjoyable because of emotions.

I just so happen to enjoy human rights and being a cool dude to fellow human beings who went through a shite time.

>>130805237
>Appeals to emotions on morality
You Canadians are fucking retarded

>>130804836

Because fat white agoraphobic virgins don't cut the mustard.

>>130806737
Appeal to your appetite is still an appeal to the emotion of pleasure

>>130805365
by bringing them here? that doesn't make any fuckin sense ya retard

>>130806721
Not welcoming them would be proof that our society has no point in existing.
The goal of a society is to care for people. If we don't do it we might as well stop every public service

>>130804836
We should take their best and brightest to secure our continued dominance over certain countries.

>>130807069
the goal of society is to protect ourselves, you bureaucratic fucking moron.

There's nothing wrong with admitting refugees, but when a state is being harmed and under attack by the same people we're trying to save, than no. That's when we put our foot down and get them out.

>>130804836
population growth, they won't be leeches forever, besides I'm not for giving them unlimited welfare, and if they don't work after 5 years send them the fuck back

>>130807069
That's an appeal to emotion though

>>130804836
How would you feel about people seeking asylum from places like Istanbul? The Turks who identify as European, like their bars open til 3 AM, loathe "Mr. Mustache," and don't attend the daily call for prayers outside of Taksim?

>>130807069

>The goal of a society is to care for people.

THIS IS WHAT COMMUNISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

I'm not even an Ancap but I still think you're butfucking retarded.

>>130807482
*bars open til 5 AM. I'm a couple of drinks in and forgot when they close.

>>130807069
your nigger-tier arguments are not going to work with people that havemore than 60 IQ. You are beyond reasoning when you clearly cant understand the simple premise "no emotional appeal"

>>130807204
That's what I wrote. Protect and care for the people

>>130807354
Please write what emotion you're thinking about

>>130807506
What's the goal of society then? It's easier to spout insults than to find a opposing argument

They believe in an ideology that destroys the countries that they are from. They move to a new country with the benefits of civilization. They then vote and act in the same manner that they did in their native countries. They will never understand that their failed ideology is the problem.

Globalization is unavoidable.

>>130807786

The goal of a society is to better YOUR PERSONAL chances of survival, not someone else's. Do you actually think societies were created because people wanted to help OTHERS?

>>130807315
why grow the population
a major concern to the world is over population

>>130807786
Appeal to empathy

>>130805528
All you have to do is pay a little bit more than the native country.

>>130808392
Which, I might add, is being exploited for no returns and naive idiots like you gulp it all up

>>130807786

The goal of society is to provide an environment for you to take care of yourself, not take care of everyone. And there is no such thing as refugees they are economic migrants. So when the economic migrants come to our land and bleed us dry through gibs and terrorize the natives with rape and nail bombs at our adolescent daughter;s concerts - they put a heavy pressure on that society (culturally and financially) and force it's inevitable collapse.

>>130807001
Why are you in this thread? You don't even believe in borders ya faggot.

>>130808338
>>130808392
>>130808578
I was fucking with you all
It was funny but it has to stop at one point I guess

I hope this made you realize that giving properly constructed arguments is important if you don't want to pass as a suburban retard. Spouting insults and memes is intellectually restrictive.

That's it. 1488 you faggots

>>130804836
your wife wants it done

>>130808907

I didn't read the thread. I only saw the bottom three replies via the frontpage. Jokes on you, friendo. I only came back to see if anyone would reply and they did. I win. Sorry, sweetie.

Lucifer commands it.
It's all about doing good and helping people develop.
Eventually when we've done enough good the planet will be a ball of flames and well developed screaming.
He doesn't ask for you to understand
He doesn't ask for you to agree
(After all this is a democracy)
So just obey or face the immediate consequences.

>>130808378
No it isn't. Overpopulation is a vastly overexaggerated issue.

>>130806309
<No appeal to emotion dingus. They do not have any right to come here.

>>130804836
We dont need them. Simply as that.

>>130804836
Reality is bs, your life doesn't matter, nothing you will ever do matters
None of us matter, it will be like we never existed in the first place

Politics is for angry losers
Both left and right extremists are faggots in the eyes of society.
Might as well try to be nice to the less fortunate

They have children. Whitefags don't, no workforce for upcoming generations.
Yes, the future might seem a bit muslim and degraded, but at least there will be population to provide some support to the elderly (i.e. to us)

>>130809404
<Not appealing to emotions, again wow the pro immigrant crowd really has no argument.

>>130809518
Yea Europe has that problem not the US and they don't work.

>>130806543
Neither

golden rule

>>130809360
Not an appeal to anything.
They're coming and you can do nothing, suburban retard.

>>130804836

Leaving huge numbers of displaced persons in economically undeveloped countries will only further destabilize the region. We can absorb the cost better.

>>130809518
Your literally spewing pro corporatist bullshit that pushes people out of the work force because it stagnantes wages. You know in the US whites are still increasing by 200,000-300,000 every year and about 2.2 million non Hispanic whites were born last year so don't come up in here with that low birth rate bullcrap and say that these refugees who don't work generation after generation will eventually work. You know 2/3rds of whites can still work and 25% of whites in the US are younger than 14

>>130810080
No we can't we are broke and they will just take welfare.

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>>130804836
richest, most developed cities in the world are multi-culti. london, paris, jew york etc.

>>130809840
Yea about 50,000 will come in 2017 but what happens when the Supreme Court reaffirms trump's ban because the 2nd one makes no mention of religion. Urban nigger lover.

Shitskins destroy civilizations and we will be eventually thrown back to stone age.
It is very good for environment.
No technology, no pollution.

>>130810231
Yea but minorities don't contribute to that besides some tokenized Asians. Don't front like the ghettos of London and uptown New York are why those cities are so great roach, can't white till Kurds outnumber you so you can understand what it's like to hear people spew shit they read in headlines and biased studies like pew research to justify demographic replacement.

>>130804836
More population to fuel industry.

>>130806023
>Wanting influence on African countries and the Middle East

It'd be easier to colonize them.

>>130810331
Your liberal states and cities have older dying white population and large amounts of non whites who will either mix out or not have kids but yet we are dying and need to be replaced by immigrants.

The populations of Europe have stagnated and without an influx of immigrants Europe is doomed to the same fate of Japan

more people means more GDP growth

>>130804836
If they have money or skills, then they are an asset to the country.

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>>130804836
easier to get them into the gas chambers if we don't have to round them up by force

In certain instances, importing cheap labor is good for the economy. Germany is a great example right now. They have the best economy in the EU.

>>130810674
Low skilled Industry is being automated and we should not prop up industrious with immigrants that stagnate wages and pushes even more people out. Also if there are no Immigrants then companies will have to pay actual wages. The pro immigrant argument is pro corporate anti worker. You will lose the rust belt and continue to lose ground in New England if you keep this up.

Do they have the proper papers/documents? If not, then we should only let them in if they have them.

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>>130804836

we need people to work on the farm and stand around homedepot. If we are going to build a wall to keep the illegals out

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>>130811092
I only had 30 seconds to try and make an argument.

>>130804836
Developed countries birth rates are slowing down, new people are needed

In Europe at lease, the geneva convention states that refugees must be allowed in

>>130810923
/thread

>>130805518
Bad argument

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>>130804836
I don't want to do it in their favor. There is no favor. They bring nothing but death and destruction. Fuck Islam, and fuck Sandniggers.

I'm a liberal and am not a fan of refugees, there.

>>130804836
Replacement rate

>>130810997
"Importing cheap labor" are you serious that is your argument. no we must destroy entire industries who dared to betray this nation by employ immigrants effectively stagnating wages, we must force companies to pay real wages,and automate low skilled jobs to push immigrants and non whites out once and for all. FUCK CAPITALISM FUCK (((THE ECONOMY))) America is not Europe we have a whole generations worth more of young whites than Europe we won't be Japan tier until like 2075 and if we act now it'll never come to That. The bubble needs to pop boys THEY WILL NOT REPLACE US! END IMMIGRATION.

If nations were to reincorporate slavery it would cut logistics costs to have potential property already domestically available

>>130811266
following all the international laws is for pussy countries who are scared of america raping them

>>130811205
You make me so angry I said fuck the rules janitors can ban me if they wish.

"What refugees bring us is worth more than gold." -Martin Schulz

Assuming refugees average out to 120lbs (counting children), each one is worth over 2.4 million dollars. Once the market opens up properly and we can cash them in, we'll be rich as fuck.

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>>130811531
calm down dude

>>130805024
Subjective. I mean, if theoretical fact existed, this would be it, but still, there might be people who like rape, crime, stench, litter and overall feel that machetes just aren't being utilized enough.

>>130804836
I'm liberal and against uncontrolled immigration.

>>130811468
Not an argument, immigrants coming and stagnating wages and competing for jobs puts pressure on natives also white birth rates have been increasing slightky since 2013 now.

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>>130811468
>Give assistance and cultural support for having more white people that agree with cultural values.

Nah, fuck that.

>Give cultural support to inbred diseased mongrels that wish to destroy your culture.

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>>130811857
Its only a matter of time, even if a new Hitler came to power in Europe (never going to happen) Whites are simply outnumbered and aren't going to stay on top for much longer. Its just the way it goes

>>130804836
>Immigrants come
>Offer them shitty education
>Fresh out of college, make sure no one hires them but minimum wage
>Send them to the military
>Ship them back to the middle east as our own soldiers

>>130812162
Yea I might get mad at people saying we should take immigrants but europes birth rate is so low even compared to places like Canada and even worse off compared to whites in the USA,australia,and New Zealand.

>>130807315
>they won't be leeches forever
>after 5 years send them the fuck back
Congratuations, you've invented migrant workers.
It's not the same as immigration though.

>>130804836
I work at an NGO and we make tons of money with them.

>>130812760
Oh isn't that kind of biased you war criminal?

>>130810231
So which one was first?
Paris being a developed city or Paris being a multi-culti city?

>>130804836
>Liberals of POL

I think you mean LARPers of POL. Genuine lefties can't make it here.

>>130812832
All OP said is to deliver an argument why refugees should be admitted that does not appeal to emotions.

>>130810108
So you are saying that average number of children in white families in USA is more than two?

>>130804836
I'm rich and want poor brown people to work for nothing for me. Don't worry the money will trickle down onto you

>>130813023
>work
Better buy a ton of spray-tan then.

White countries.
>thinking that a race owns a country lol
Anyone can live wherever they want. Get over it.

>>130813016
Yes in most cases it is, you see though it is white liberals in states and cities like cali,mass,Connecticut,rhode island,Chicago,NYC that aren't having kids so it brings the total down. White evangelicals and Catholics for example have very large families white union families in suburbs like myself do as well. Rural dwellers have a high death rate but still produce a good amount of kids too.

>>130813480
Wow what a well constructed argument.

>>130813480
>Anyone can live wherever they want
You're invited to live in my garden or inside my house, so I can shoot you for trespassing.

>>13080483
Expanded customer market and larger voting base. Even if they receive social they will have to buy things. Let's give them credit cards as well.

>>130813945
It was meant for op I fucked up numbers

>>130813945
Sounds great another credit bubble will definitely not arise oh no it didn't happen in 2008.

>>130804836
Replacement migration to keep the economy up

>>130804950
It actually does the opposite.
It puts the diverse existing European cultures under pressure.
The end result being less cultural diversity, not more.

Multiculuralism doesn't exist, if you put multiple different cultures together, a struggle will occur and one will ultimately triumpf over the other.

Skilled laborers

>>130804836
cheap labor

>>130804836
I only support refugees if they vetted. i.e. background checks and motive coming here

>>130814275
This one is clearly a joke.

>>130804836
grow the economy

more people means more people buying things

it's the main reason that the US economy has grown over the last few decades

>>130814477
That's not sustainable you reprobate kill your self

Ponzi scheme to keep the pensions flowing, gotcha nazi!

>>130814532
how is it not sustainable?

when people buy products it increases the economy plain and simple

you need more people to keep selling more goods

also you can tax trade so it leads to more revenue for the state which most states need

>>130814477
I'm sorry you don't want a Brazil tier socialists shithole but right now all those matters are in the way of maximizing our GDP. lol liberals claim to be anti corporate pro worker but support immigration to keep adding mindless consumers to the system and stagnate wages in this inflated capitalist that has become no just unstable but unsustainable.

Immigration is a bless for capitalists, it brings demographic pressure to the job market and make people focus on the "immigration problem" instead of trying to understand how the top 1% are fucking everyone.

>>130814733
Because they can't just keep coming here stagnate wages cause amazon wants poos to work for half the price. Your anti capitalist pro worker (leftists not just democrats all claim to be) but then use (((the economy))) to justify immigrants coming here and ruining this country.

>>130814871
Thank you.

>>130814733
that causes an ever increasing ponzi scheme which will eventually outgrow the earths capacity to sustain the population

>>130810785
What will be replacing most of is robots twenty years from now you imbecile. Then you'll be left with millions of worthless, uneducated, sub-70 IQ scum that will act as nothing more than a ball and chain.

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>>130806531
Thanks for this anon

Liberal here. The only argument is that we have a duty to humanity to save people in jeopardy.
Literally the only reason and tbqh it's not that sound.
I say let the Arab nations take them. Thief cultural differences are too stark for democracy. They don't need to come to the west to escape war.

>>130815098
if that's the case then the entire world is a ponzi scheme

people have been predicting over population and crisis since 1800 when the world hit 1 billion, we are now at 7.5 billion

technology will always keep up and we will supply the extra people and eventually when the earth can't provide more we will use space but that won't be for a while

>>130804836
> Influx of cheap shitty labor.
> Decrease in wages.
> Increase in housing prices.

Seems like a solid plan if we're trying to speed up Gen Z killing themselves.

>>130804836
It's an objective fact that mixed race people are more resistant to disease.
Immigrants are also consumers and purchase goods and services which gives money to our businesses.
I'm also not a liberal.

>>130814983
I'm not anti capitalist

if the population goes down then then gdp suffers and living standards fall

we need to grow the population

Japan has been shrinking for a while and their gdp has been stagnant or falling

>>130804836
I was staunchly anti-immigration. But now I'm realizing things will not change in my lifetime. The jews have won as far as I am concerned. I'm this close to taking my money and business elsewhere. If I could only find a location not controlled by them, or in their targets...

>>130815658
Those studies don't account for mental health issues and the fact that the average mixed/and or Hispanic is a 30 year old dude.

>>130815442
Who cares about your gen z
We have african boomers to work with

>>130815855
You can argue with it, but it won't change the facts. I'm not here to change your mind.

>>130805493
Not true

>>130815726
But the population is not decreasing numerically the white population increase by 100,000-200,000 naturally every year and has been slowly increase clearly to cope with the rising death rate almost entirely taking place in the south which has just started to drop because being a junkie or old is also unsustainable.

>>130807069

>the goal of society is to care for other people

Jesus Christ. Only those with zero self worth or esteem are pitiful enough to toss up their hands and say "system, take care of me!"

You deserve the gas

>>130807144

They aren't sending their best, folks.

>>130815961
I'm not arguing the facts I'm presenting more to you cause clearly the pew research study you read doesn't account for enviormental factors.

>>130815974
It's real stormnigger
Which is why all immigrants must go
Especially the children

It's the grass is greener on the other side syndrome + the university jew driving them to jihad

>>130816065
The goal of society is to ease interaction between people and groups of people. It could be argued that immigration isn't a function of society, but a goal.

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>>130805301
Wait a minute...

>>130815889
> Who cares about your gen z

It's more about the economy.

If we fuck the next generation's spending power, we'll actually witness stagnation in our economy.

>>130816426
Nah bro west Africans do jobs that 85 year old Italians can't do like nothing cause they don't work. If we want to maximize our GDP we need 6 gorillion migrants by tomorrow to account for Europeans being conservative savers who don't enjoy debt.

>>130816240
Then fuck societal norms I'm a revolutionary now.

>>130815658
>purchase goods

With what money?

>>130804836
It's best for the jew...everyone.

>>130816868
If you don't want to interact with other humans, you're either defective or an evolutionary dead end. Humans are a social species.

>>130816897
From working usually. Even if they're operating on pure welfare it's still money going from govt. to businesses.

>>130815782
There are countries outside of influence of IMF.
Curiously, those are the countries that USA already destroyed or is attempting to destabilize or drag into armed conflict. Pure coincidence.

>>130817154
> money going from govt. to businesses.

I forget, tell me again, how does the gov't get that money?

>>130817154
Keep telling yourself these things to cover up for the fact your shilling for corporate interests indirectly.

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>>130817154
So someone makes that money, has to give them to wetbacks, wetback will spend them on drugs and hookers, and in exchange the wetback will depress the wage of the guy who gave him that money.

Well gee golly, hundred hours of overtimes, here I go!

>>130806023
>go back
My sides

>>130804836
Europe's population is falling. Admitting refugees would help keep up population growth, increase the amount of skilled workers, and keep Europe's economy from a collapse in workers.

For America, refugees and legal immigrants have an overall positive effect on the economy and keeps society and culture from stagnating.

Face it, diversity is good.

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>>130804836
Cultural enrichment

Oy vey! I can't see why those terrible, White Islamophobic racists are upset at the enrichment caused by these magnificent Muslims. Murder, mayhem chaos, rape and other such multicultural, diverse experiences are wonders to behold and make our drab lives more exciting and livable. After all what can make life more livable than slaughtering people left and right?

>>130817440
From taxes. This is how an economy works. Money circulates. When an immigrant gets welfare the money doesn't just disappear, they spend it.

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>>130818714
>increase the amount of skilled workers
Niggers and Muslims

Hihihihihi! You silly goy

>>130804836
You can make them work for half the money? I don't know. No arguments...Sucks to be liberal these days

>>130806196
We can help more people if we help them in their home countries. We also help degrading their countries when we remove their citizens

>>130818305
Dude are you arguing with a high iq city dweller man didn't you hear whitey be recessive(will never elaborate which traits are reccessive)and are dying by increasing by 100,000-200,000 every year man. Clearly the superior non whites and city dwellers who aren't having kids should tells and our families what to do because what they complain about is actually more prevalent in their society and they are just projecting.

>>130818714
Assuming this isn't bait, how do you reconcile the fact that the IQ in 3rd world shitholes is so much lower on average? Also, how do you sustain current rates of gibs that these refugees are getting?

>>130806196
We can help them by sending aid or driving out forces in the land. Bottom line is these people dont want to help themselves so by bringing them here it brings us down with them.

>>130818714
Europe is its own issue but no in the US post 1965 immigrants are causing the stagnation.

>>130804836
Satisfies my wife's lust for BBC

>>130819532
Ok good enough.

>>130818913
So we take your money and give it to an immigrant?

They spend it, and you wouldn't have spent it?

>>130818714
Markets are meant to shrink and grow not bloom forever. bubbles must pop else when it finally does its going to be a catastrophe.

>>130819599
I can't wait to see the look on you Drumpfkins when Bernie wins in 2020

>>130819734
Ok Bernie is anti immigrant too oh boy that won't go over well.

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Jesus these responses are fucking retarded. Do you twats even know how to: "emotion".

We want to "enrich" our country with cheap wage slaves whom we can pay less than citizens. Simple.

>>130804950
They don't have culture
>>130805237
>muh morality
>>130805365
How? How having lots of people their countries don't care about and we have to pay for (because they don't work) will expand our influence?
>>130805453
They don't work.
>>130805518
>muh morality
>>130806056
neck urself
>>130806346
>muh anarchism
I'd want that world, if only to create "mudskin removal corp" and have everyone pay me for killing them.
>>130806810
So foreigners in shite time = wrong, countrymen in shite time = okay?
>>130807315
They won't work ever, that's the problem. Besides 5 years is wayyy too big margin, I'd give them 6 month, 1 year tops.
>>130807902
>muh globalisation
>>130810080
Yeah, let's make our countrymen life shit because other people have shitty lives too!
>>130810674 >>130810997 >>130813023 >>130814355 >>130818714 >>130819129
"Refugees" don't work.
>>130810866
Why we let thousands of sandniggers who will only be a burden to society then?
>>130811266
So it's better to surrender your countries to sandniggers because...?
>>130815403
You have to think about your group first, others second. You can't let people to your country because it's the moral thing to do, because it's not necessarily the right thing to do.

Honestly, why so many stupid people think unemployed (sometimes unemployable), obnoxious and dependent on society immigrants are useful to anybody?

>>130806196
But that's just like.. your opinion.. man..

Seriously nothing you said is objectively true. It is all purely based on your subjective world view. Just because you accept something as true does not make it universally true, for that repeatable numerically based evidence is required, it'd called science.

Seriously, look up the difference between objective and subjective

>>130806810
>cool
>actually massive square (fag ball gobbling cunt)

>>130804836

El Paso, TX

>>130806056
This is the unironic reason for open borders, more votes for the anti white parties.

>>130804836

Gay lefty Bavarian here. I'm against mass migration precisely because I am a lefty.

>>130805301
>hmmmm
You might not be sent to the gas chambers juden. Keep up the good work

>>130820162
That's been majority Hispanic since the early 20th century bro are you retarded?

>>130804836
cheap labor to make the super rich even richer, destruction of Christianity and with it of the moral fabric of society, injection of new consumers ready to buy more things to make the super richer even more richer.

see? that was easy

>>130804836
slave labor, cheap prostitutes.

>>130806196
Do you invite homeless people to live with you?
Do you contribute every bit of your extra money to charity?
Do you adopt every child you can possible find to adopt?
How many hours do you volunteer at homeless shelters? If less than 40 a week, you're not going out of your way to help.
You can't force people to help everyone you want to help. If you want to help them, help them. Don't try pushing your personal opinion of "how much is not enough" on people you don't even know, so you can tweet about how helpful you are, please.

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>>130811716

>>130806721
>It will be good for our economy
Most immigrants need gibs to survive
>It will increase our nations exports
Muh profits and Muh Globalism
>It will increase our IQ
The collective IQ will plummet with added brown and black people

Stick to emotion libcuck, this reason thing doesn't work for you.

>>130804836
It's literally cheaper than keeping them out.

>>130820329

What's your point then? Aren't Hispanics proven to be great citizens?

El Paso is one of the safest cities in America.

>>130820840
They aren't Immigrants dingus!!!

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>>130806984
I may be angrophobic, but at least I'm not Islamophobic!

fys Mohemmed

>>130820840
Your supposed to be justifying immigrantion not Hispanics existing.

>>130804836
>MUH ETHIC STREET FOODS
Is the only non-full-on feels argument I ever hear when I'm forced to go into the city (Ottawa) for work, and it's pathetic. I swear if I see one more salmonella soaked 'street meat' cart or rank falafel stand surounded by hadjis today, I'm likely to pull a Finsbury Park.

>>130807227
>There's nothing wrong with admitting refugees

Stop right there cuck

>>130807902
Hi Obama

>>130806721
>It will be good for our economy
How that booming economy treating you over there Yanis?

>>130810231
They developed first and then blacks and arabs came and contributed my making slums

It's the nice thing to do they are people too, it's not their fault they were born in the asshole of the world they might invent things that make america lots of money look at elon musk he's a south african

>>130804836
Hi elliot shimon. Jews put em here. Republigoyims are jew feet lickers. Hows that you stupid cunt?

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>>130805237
good bait and nice line,though your actual technique could use some work

>>130811716
>overall feel that machetes just aren't being utilized enough.
keked

>>130814262
That's not necessarily true. Various European cultures that immigrated to America still retain their culture, and only fight on 4chan.

The problem, as always, is Muslims.

When people talk about "multiculturalism", they're talking about flooding a country with Muslims.

And Muslims are universally reviled by all cultures across the globe.

>>130805518
>We're better than this as a society

Can anyone reasonably argue that either the US or Mexico are better off now than before the mass migration?

Nope. Didn't think so.

They need birth control, and airdropped food if we must. Tired of watching this place tear itself apart chasing the diversity meme.

>>130822329
If we were taking in Christians from Liberia we'd be better off you say?

>>130805518
Its inhumane NOT to let them die in their own country.

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>>130806056
Thx for your honesty lib friend. Most of your ilk won't admit this.

>>130806196
>Our society has no point in existing if we don't care about each other.

Don't you care about the other people already here whose education, safety, and livelihoods would be comprimised by mass-importing 3rd world hordes?

No. I didn't think so. Your motivations are 100% ideological, and YOU are the real misanthrope here.

>>130806023
>When they go back to wherever shithoke they came from
You're retarded anon.

>>130807144
>We should take their best and brightest to secure our continued dominance over certain countries

>Yemen
>Best and brightest

lulz

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>>130811716
>>130822056
>Hotel Rwanda coming to a British town near you

>>130807482
>The Turks who identify as European
Not really. That's just the burgeois.

Stop trying to give the US a demographic makeover to advance your ideology, and maybe we can talk. Your retarded way of doing things has destroyed US schools, made poor people in our country give up altogether and turn to drug gangs.

>>130807902
>Globalization is unavoidable.

So are old age and death. Just because something is "unavoidable" doesn't mean we should be trying to speed up the process.

>>130823720
But bro fuck frumpy and huwhite neeples they privileged son and are incapable of having problems.

>>130804836
The middle east has lots of different cultures. There are sects of Islam that are very peaceful, as well as Christians, etc. Strict vetting. Military aged men probably shouldn't be let in without a family.

Weaken Islam by taking all of their best and brightest. Their families, their peaceful.

>>130807482
>let in the Turks who identify as European
Sure thing schlomo, how about you let men who identify as women share your bed

>>130809518
>no workforce for upcoming generation

So much of our current workforce is already obsolete that it's not even funny. We already have plenty of people to take care of our retirees. Bringing in more people at this point isn't going to help the next generation. It's going to make it even harder for them to get by and heap massive social problems on top of it.

MOST new immigrants already go on welfare within 90 days of arrival.

>>130822452
Still aiming low, thinking small.

We should be taking international graduate students from Japan, etc. We should incentivize them to create businesses (and jobs) in our country. Ideally those businesses will make money by exporting goods. This bring in foreign wealth.

>>130809840
>They're coming and you can do nothing, suburban retard.

Wrong, commie.

>>130824286
Fuck everything you just said we don't need more Arabs here to bring their wives and kids, you guys are too much with this can't you accept immigration is corporatist nonsense that allows to not pay living wages.

>>130804836
slaves

>>130824822
No we should focus on Americans and incentivize them to create buisnesses. BTW I was being facetious.

We need them for food. Start up the Soylent green program. Gets rid of all the unwanted refugees and feeds our homeless. Win-win

>>130824867
Well I also wouldn't allow them to participate in much welfare (or have as much to begin with).

Basically with the system we have now, obviously taking in refugees doesn't work. If the left were remotely reasonable and allowed criticism and tightening of social programs then it might.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

>muh population
Let us die, then.
>muh economic miracle
Why take away brightest minds from regions that need it the most? What are the brightest minds running from if their countrymen are such "gems" at producing ideal societies? This is my favourite argument because it is admitting that the immigration issue is never meant to be solved, but to be continuous.

>>130824760
Not even true outside of Europe anyway.

>>130814773
One of the best replies in here.
/thread/.

>>130825046
They wouldn't come at all at this point with all those benefits not being available to them lol.

>>130804836
Without immigrants and moving of different cultures back home we wouldnt have pizza's or other things that are not inherent to western culture. but i'd rather keep em out.

>>130810231
>richest, most developed cities in the world are multi-culti. london, paris, jew york etc.

Couldn't pay me enough to live in any of those places.

They're all shitholes with a pretty low standard of living for 99.9% of the people who live there. They rely on a large oppressed underclass to support fabulous lifestyles for the super rich.

Large cities were a mistake.

A very old population with few young working age people in the population resulting in a need to import young working age people.

Otherwise the ability to pay pensions and fund hospitals via tax will fail.

>>130804836
B-b-but they will pay our welfare since we no longer give birth

>>130825239
Not true outside of Europe or Japan, and South Korea disagrees as well.

>refugees
>what is immigrant
This thread is about refugees, retards, not for economic migrants or normal migration. Can't you fucking read?

>>130817154
Holy shit, this is what leftists actually believe. We are truly doomed.

>>130825284
Again I know your joking but only Europe and Japan are having that problem.

>>130804836
BBC

hilariously cheap labour

Being a libcuck doesn't automatically equate to wanting shitskins to flood your country. I'm generally liberal but want an all white society.

>>130825487
Good enough.

>>130825350
I agree, there are cases where immigration is needed/okay but there are very few cases where that is the situation,

>>130825591
Also to add onto this to be more on topic of the thread. No country has or should have any sort of obligation to take in refugees.

Countries and their people get moral shamed into accepting large amounts of refugees, in the numbers much too large for their own infrastructure to handle.

And that isn't even getting into ideological clashes.

>>130825591
All of Europe besides France isn't very few but these people already have Europe they want us to take more because only 100,000 legal immigrants half of which will be refugees are coming to the US in fiscal 2017 you see so we aren't meeting our (((diversity quota)))

>>130824822
No. Countries should not be stealing the superior people from other nations, at least not immediately.

Those countries need their not retards to lead them.

Things will never improve anywhere if every 1/20 kid who is born smart fucking abandons his/her country.

Nationalism literally helps the entire world.

>>130811197
>we need people to work on the farm

Most of the "farm labor" thing is a meme. There are only about 1 million ag jobs left in the entire country thanks to automation. Back in the 1950s, we had the Bracero program and it worked out fine.

If you need something done to your house, hire a local contractor. Good contractors are worth the money, and help provide jobs and opportunity to local community members.

>>130825531
what is that racist non race including flag?

I'm a liberal but I don't want no stinkin' refugees in my country. I already have enough of white niggers in my neighborhood.

>>130811266
>new people are needed

They most certainly are not. We still have a massive labor surplus in the west from the last wave we let in.
>>130811266
>the geneva convention states that refugees must be allowed in

Go ahead and let them into Europe if you want to, moron. Wave buh-bye to prosperity and freedom.

>>130826336
Americas birth rate has risen from 1.8 to 1.9 in the last 4 years even though non white birth rates took a plunge 2 years ago already.

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>>130825869
Learn to be more predatory.

Meme or be meme'd buddy.

>>130812326
Clever girl

>>130814477
>grow the economy

"the economy" doesn't pay my bills. "my paycheck" does. Growing ((the economy)) by lowering my personal standard of living doesn't sound all that great.

I'd rather grow the ((economy)) by increasing the stadard of living for the people already here.

>>130814733
>when people buy products it increases the economy plain and simple

You're oversimplifiying.

itt: sperg tier frogposters repeat baseless assumptions about the cost sustainability of housing some fucking niggers in tents and try to pass it off as "muh cold hard realism" while pretending we have no interests at risk if third world regions are destabilized by millions of dispossessed refugees.

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>>130805518
There was literally ONE rule.

Liberalism is a mental illness.

>>130806056
Who knew a liberal had the balls to admit this?

>>130804836
Refugee =/= equal citizen. Free slaves.

>>130807902
>Death is unavoidable
>Ergo we should all kill ourselves
This is perhaps the dumbest argument on this whole thread

>>130804836
We need more people to clean the toilets and mow the lawns.

>>130804836
Cheap labour if you need it, like Germans.

>>130828226
No we don't need cheap labor.

>>130815408
>if that's the case then the entire world is a ponzi scheme

The real red pill. The US went full ponzi back in the early 1970s. The entire US ((economy)) is currently based around inflating property prices in large cities at exponential rates.

>>130815726
>Japan has been shrinking for a while and their gdp has been stagnant or falling

Most of them don't care. What they care about is their standard of living which is still quite high because they didn't invite the 3rd world hoarde to the party.

Standard of living in most of the US has gone to hell in a handbasket over the last 20 years.

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>>130805512
>tfw no crusader waifu

>>130804836
We bombed the shit out of their country, they heard about asylum laws, they got hip on how to abuse the system, now we're bordering a crisis situation all induced by politicians/bankers lust for money. People treating asylum like a muslim problem are ignoring the jews that put the laws in place.

>>130816200
>pew research study

liberal

>>130806056
lmao this is true

>>130812162
Whites have a 10:1 to 100:1 kill ratio. If it comes to that, even South Africans could take their country back and that is without using nukes.

>>130806196
>if we don't open our asses to the third world, we might as well kill ourselves

>>130829214
What??? Liberal what???

>>130817053
>Humans are a social species.

Territorial pack animals, actually. Historically, most humans lived in bands from 20-100 people roaming fairly large territories.

Cities are a fairly recent phenomenon. Most people live in them out of economic necessity rather than by choice.

>>130804836
it makes the lower class bigger, allowing the middle and upper class to become richer. The nation as a whole becomes richer, but the wealth per capita decreases.

It also becomes easier to regulate unemployment. The optimal level is said to be around 6% in order to maintain a good balance and avoid inflation, and the following deflation. Overall, the main benefit of accepting refugees is that the influx of people with low level of education is that it helps a nation in the middle of a high conjecture to "surf" the peak of the curve longer.

>>130829713
It does nothing good an the EU will crumble because of it.

>>130829713
That's basically what you said.

>>130829856
lol said the american

you do realise that america is the prime example that this works, right?

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses"

>>130828226
So why Angela let them in?

>>130829713
To be specific it'll increase the lower class stagnate wages and allow government to cheat unemployment statistics,also whileincreasing income inequality, wow how great that sounds almost like that goes hand in hand with liberals getting into power.

>>130829713
does your analysis ever account for the deleterious effects of lowering the national IQ by statistically significant integers every year

>>130830206
>america is proof multikulti works
literally every social problem euros shit on us for is caused by blacks and hispanics

>>130830206
A Jew carved that into the Statue of Liberty and then Europe sent us its peasants who brought crime to this country, the grandchildren of those immigrants did build this country in the 40s and 50s but they weren't immigrants now were they. Before WW2 living in the United States was real

>>130830638
Tough to do*

>>130804836
I may be what was once a liberal but I'm not pro refugee necessarily. Sorry.

>>130830493
Nah bro it those working middle class white protestants and Catholics not (((them))) or any other oppressed non white.

>>130804836
uhh, ok:

1) they bring jobs

2) they bring experience

3) they bring family

4) they are smart, educated, and ready to learn

5) they are motivated

>>130830958
Lie lie lie lie lie. How about liberals of /pol/ just become liberals and get off /pol/

>>130830958
Is this bait or do liberals really believe these things?

>>130831212
No they believe it and bend over backwards to fulfill it. Instead of bending over backwards working for there country.

>>130831381
*their* my bad.

>>130810578
pew

>>130830958
Job creators bring jobs, not 3rd world illiterates.

>>130831548
What's up?

>>130830958
Last time I checked, suicide bombings and child rape weren't considered career paths.

>>130831698
How intolerant of you.

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whats up with all these posters who use this thread like a live chat?

why not just write all your replies in a single post?

>>130832290
Because I don't want to.

>>130830206
>you do realise that america is the prime example that this works, right?

We needed immigration a long time ago when we had frontiers to settle and booming industry. Most of the gains we've had here since WWII have been more despite immigration than because of it.

Careful immigration and bringing in people who are truly among the global "best & brightest" is good. Any form of mass immigration for western developed countries is a bad idea.

Anyone who thinks whites will be gone in the future is sadly mistaken. Whites control the world. Not kikes, not niggers. Whites. If things ever were looking grim for us we just release the viruses we have created to target the kikes and niggers and any other undesirables. Problem solved. Without whites, society collapses, so there's nothing you nigger sweetie pies can do.

>>130830638
dont forget there was also no welfare state. 1/3 of immigrants to america went the fuck home within 5 years because they were shit-tier and had no hand-outs. this also kept the scum from coming over because there was no free ride. "the streets are paved with gold" is taken in modern times to mean muh gibs but in the past it meant westward expansion and living on your own terms, carving out a living for yourself and your family without an oppressive monarchy giving you butt infections from all the rape. now people just come here to take our money and nobody goes home.

>>130830958
>1) they bring jobs
no they take jobs
>2) they bring experience
peasant experience is not valuable
>3) they bring family
this is even worse, we have to pay social security for all their bindi grandmothers to sit around and eat food stamp dinners
>4) they are smart, educated, and ready to learn
surely you're not talking about the majority of immigrants coming from mexico with shit education and room temp IQs
>5) they are motivated
theyre so motivated that they decided to go get welfare in el norte instead of using their amazing motivation to make their mexican neighborhood a nice place to live