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Chinese are not creative??

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wassup with all the "Chinese aren't creative" posts these days?

>uses paper invented by Chinese
>uses clock invented by Chinese
>drinks tea first brewed by Chinese
>reads newspaper invented by Chinese
>brushes teeth with toothbrush invented by Chinese
>uses toilet paper invented by Chinese
>blasts fireworks invented by Chinese
>reads books with printing invented by Chinese
>wears silk clothes invented by Chinese
>wears nail polish invented by Chinese
>eats Chinese food invented by Chinese
>eats ice cream invented by Chinese
>drinks alcohol first brewed by Chinese
>owns gun with gunpowder invented by Chinese
>uses paper money invented by Chinese
>gives examinations invented by Chinese
>uses umbrella invented by Chinese
>buried in coffin invented by Chinese

>posts on 4chan that Chinese are not creative

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions
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Blacks are more creative and are better at the arts than chinks.
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>>130804271
Chingu chongu us han chinesu are the smartest peopre in the wordu
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>>130806638
you know they gave flags so you could hide now right?

>A
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>>130804271

This is the fifth time this week I've seen this shitty thread.
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>>130804271
I think i have reaction folder for this
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>>130807052
>sees post citing wikipedia
>responds with 4chan shitposts

very creative
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>>130807390
ITs this one
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>>130807390
If that's the case, why are similar statues not found in Greece?
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>>130807408
''Wikipedia''
You know Wikipedia is written by other people and i can write that Africans invented rockets
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Communists aren't creative.
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>>130807659
>i can edit wikipedia with false information

and you will be edited out instantly...its not like 4chan lol...where ppl maintain folders of shitposts and keep posting them again and again...
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>>130807390

>the article is interesting because it seems to indicate that cultural exchange between the west and the east occurred a lot sooner than what was previously known
>/pol/ weenie only sees muh west being better than the east
>casually ignoring the influences of various kingdoms and city states in mesopotamia and and the middle east, as well as persia have had in defining 'greek' culture.


you sure are dumb
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>>130804271
>top .01% in a population of 1 billion+ invented useful shit
>rest are dirt poor peasants, and have been since the beginning of time

b-b-ut china is super creative guys! have you SEEN how they get rid of daughters?
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>>130808272
>implying that in other civilizations the ENTIRE population was creative
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>>130804271
> it's an incel chink thread
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>>130808169
The Orientalising period is a lie, all culture sprung up fully formed in the white, blond-haired, blue-eyed ARYAN West and then was stolen by others, shut up shut up shut upshutup
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>>130804271
>Paper
The concept existed for many, many years.
>Clock
What? Romans had highly engineered time keeping instruments (see antikythera mechanism)
>Tea
You can't invent a plant, civilisations have been brewing drinks for thousands of years
>Newspaper
You mean paper, I feel like you are using this one again
>toothbrush
again existed for 1000s of years
>toilet paper
how many fucking times are you going to bring up paper?
>fireworks
Yes gunpowder was a good thought but they fucking tried to snort the shit
>books
so paper again?
>silk
They didn't invent the silkworm
>nail polish
Existed for 1000's of years
>chinese food
wat
>ice cream
niga it's frozen milk
>alcohol
No again a thing that has existed so so many years
>gunpowder
gunpowder again gw
>paper money
so paper again
>exams
tests are you for real
>umbrella
more than 4000 years, covering your head is not a complicated concept
>coffin
first of all coffin is a french word and the idea of putting dead cunts in a container is not new, look at the biggest coffins on the planet (pyramids)

So basically Chinese invented paper and gunpowder, grats two things. Australians invented spray on skin, supersonic jet engines, radioactive waste storage, postage, modern irrigation and the refrigerator.
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>>130804271
you know what everything you listed has in common? they were invented before communism destroyed everything good about the chinese culture.
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>>130807597
>no statues found in Greece
Anon...
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>>130809220
>muh existed for 1000s of years

Go back to your fucking prison like your ancestors...
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>>130809505
i said SIMILAR types of statues...
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>>130804271
Whites compensating for lower IQ
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>>130809633
>Getting smashed in an argument by a convict

Fuck mate you gotta a bit salty. Almost everything listed has been found at the beginnings of history, anyone could invent that shit. So what have they done lately.

We invented the pacemaker, antibiotics, modern currency, bionic ear, electric drill, wifi and ultrasound scanning.
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>>130809838
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>>130804271
>wikipedia
Dropped.
>>130809220
I'd say gunpowder is the only legitimate invention. But Europeans perfected the idea from giant ass handheld cannons.

Also paper was known by most cultures, the word derives from papirus as far as I know.
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>>130809668
Just an example out of few millions.
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>>130809962
Alright lets have some convict talk then...if you can lie, i can lie too...

>spray on skin
existed for 1000s of years

>irrigation
existed for 1000s of years

>postage
ppl were sending letters to each other much before australians' grandfathers were not even in prison in the UK

>antibiotics
existed long before australia was populated by british convicts

>electric drill
existed for many years...

blah blah blah....
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>>130804271

If you'd used a few of those you would have had a point but you went overboard and robbed yourself of credibility
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>>130810266
>greeks have statues
>chinese have statues
>ergo, greeks taught chinese how to build statues

great
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>>130810511
read the wiki page fully, or just do a Ctrl+F search....
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>>130809962
>"...So what have they done lately."
not gone to prison for a start
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China has been at its peak of civilization for 3000 years and never managed an industrial revolution
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>>130810266
>Want to prove the Chinese just stole Greek culture and aren't creative.
>Posts kouros statues that the Greeks based on statues from Egypt.
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>>130810375
Lying? Don't be angry you are wrong.

>spray on skin
came out 15 years ago
>MODERN irrigation
see dethridge wheel
>postage
again invented the concept of postage, you used to pay for shipping but never in the sense we use it today
>antibiotics
no australia developed the first antibiotic, penicillin

>>130810975
>replying to the same post twice
Fuck son you are mad lol, China has roughly the equivalence of 1/10th of australia's population imprisoned at this very moment. The Chinese love locking people up, especially if they don't deserve it.
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>>130806638
yeah, huts made out of shit and retarded jump-dances are so much better than anything the chinese have ever invented
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>>130810518
lol I didn't say that, I find the idea a bit strange too.

>>130810034
This is totally bs, there's no way they pass iq tests in the middle of African hellholes, and China cheats on absolutely everything. Also la Guyane is obviously included in the French datas.
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>>130811495
>If west wins, they're the master race and deserve it
>if China wins, they cheat
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>>130804271
Because ancient china and modern china are the same thing.
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>>130811883
>>130811332
>reads post about ancient China
>thinks it is about modern China too
>starts comparing modern China with other modern nation states
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>>130809633
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>>130811714
Don't be naive pls...
Besides, even in France I don't know anyone who had his iq tested, I'd like to know the source of these figures.
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>>130812756
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment#Results

https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country
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>>130804271
>wikipedia edited from PRC ip address
wat did yiu mean by this?
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How about you use your real flag you chink cunt?
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>>130813357
Hello Kaaskop
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>>130813341
>Wiki page contains 549 citations
>claims data is false just because edited by PRC IP address
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>>130810257
>the word derives from papirus
The chinese have their own word for paper and we may (or may not) have invented it first. Your point is irrelevant.
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>>130813494
Hello Krautkopf
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>>130804271
Lol,wow that's amazing.Or not lol.Here is when compared to other countries.Also fact check your list.Guns where invented by Arabs,not Chinks.Chinks used powder for fireworks.Paper was invented by the Egyptians.That's just common knowledge.God knows how much bullshit would i find on your list if i actually factchecked it.
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>>130806638
It's been a while since I saw a truly abhorrent Leaf post. Congrats.
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>>130804271
most of that shit is alot older than china.
china niggers trying to steal shit yet again
>we wuz inventors and sheeiitt
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>>130804271
Also that picture isnt even china you gook shit.
It is bồng lai tiên cảnh, in veitnam.
>tfw veitniggers have more stuff to be proud of than dog fuckers
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>>130813599
the point is they're chitations and we all know the people's repubic of chinos steals intellectual property because its' vermin lack ingenuity
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>>130804271
>>owns gun with gunpowder invented by Chinese
>2017
>not using a railgun
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>>130804271

Communism did to the chinks what two nukes couldn't even do to the nips, it completely destroyed their culture.
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>>130806638
the best dance crew in the us right now is an asian crew
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>>130813832
>finds out europe invented many things in past 400 years
>thinks europe has always invented everything for ALL of history

>reads that OP says gunpowder invented by Chinese
>instead claims OP said guns invented by Chinese

>claims that post is all false if factchecked
>wiki link provided still doesnt have balls to factcheck
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>>130804271
I think the entire "Chinese are not creative" meme came about during the communist revolution because allot of cultural idols were torn down and destroyed.

They are very creative and they just had the misfortune to go through an industrial revolution before the Europeans.
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>>130814577
I mean after the Europeans
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>>130814447
So you be saying that the British the invented 54% of the world's important inventions in 400 years,while the Chinese could not do so for 4000 years,but somehow Chinese are creative?I sure got BTFO.
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>>130804271

WTF
I love slants now.
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china
>Ecological imbalance is credited with exacerbating the Great Chinese Famine, in which 20–45 million people died of starvation.
>exacerbating great famine
it's unfortunate they didn't opt for democracy
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>>130814114
>source: my ass
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/10/luxury/most-expensive-properties/index.html
also
>vietnam
>not gook
you have to go back, Nguyen
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>>130806638
are you my dad? This form of apologism needs to be met with a boot crushing the neck. Not to kill, but to seriously injure.
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>>130814719
When Chinese and Indians were solving complex mathematical equations, your ancestors had not even evolved from monkeys yet. So yeah it evens out in the end.
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>>130814941
>10% of the world inventions made by Billions upon billions of Chinese in the the time span of 4000 evens out with 80% of the the world inventions by a few million Europeans in the time span of 400 years
Lol.I think your 105 IQ is failing you Jackie Chan.
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>>130815241
10% is a little generous...
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>>130804271
And haven't really invented anything since the Han Dynasty. They are very good at copying things though......
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>>130815241
see >>130812035
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>>130807749
Communist aren't people
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>>130811183
>>130776365

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694

"Population genetic analysis of nuclear DNA
"We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations. Model-based clustering using ADMIXTURE"
>We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant, as well as to Neolithic Anatolian and European populations
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>>130815391
How is this relevant?Ancient China existed for 3000 years and the amount of Chinese lives in the time spam was a single billion instead of billions?Wow,that sure is an improvement.BTFO yet again i see.
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>>130815489
Are you really an intern at the Danish Embassy in Madrid? Or just a namefag?
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>>130804271
Oh look it's a leaf hiding behind a larp flag. You aren't fooling anyone chang.
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>>130815555
>colonize and destroy african and asian colonies
>use colonial labor and oppression to fuel industrial revolution
>become rich by making colonies poor
>suddenly discover "science"
>publish books about 54% of inventions coming from Britain
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>>130809220
paper money refered to a silver tender leaf that chinks used to transfer large load of silver with the merchants. they actual silvers are protected by convoys and stored in large banks across big cities, and merchants can go to the bamk that issued these silver tender to draw silver out for commencing deals.
Tests refered to a standardized testing system for official appointments, and later evolved into an educational instrument. Before, people didnt think being a governor need an exam score to prove their worth, but that mindset had to be changed rapidly when you have too large a land to govern for a central command.
Paper is a stretch, but chinese's contribution is soft foldable paper. Papirus are too dried and fragile to be either stored or folded, thus increasing the difficulty for storage. Chinese paper was improved so dependence to flexible materials like silk or lampskin is reduced rapidly, and you dont have to hump a load of bamboo sticks or stone tablets around.
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>>130804271
>eats Chinese food invented by Chinese
I don't eat dogs, especially not ones cooked alive with welding torches.
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>>130815870
i hear you man...bloody fuckers cant even read the link provided in the post...being a NEET doesn't mean one won't use one's brain.

Or does it?
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>>130804271
White bois just need to make up a shortcoming becaise they feel threatened by Chinese IQ.
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>>130811332
>aussie invented penicillin
but that was british not aussie
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>>130815854
The industrial revolution was BEFORE colonialism m80.
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>>130804271
For the same reason people say bullshit like "yeah, but women have higher EMOTIONAL intelligence". It means nothing, but it let's them pretend there's some kind of balance.

Chinsk are (ON AVERAGE) slightly smarter, more driven, more hardworking than whites. End of story.

It doesn't hurt my self-esteem, cause I know I'm way fucking smarter than most chinks, but if you're a loser that only has his whiteness to help him sleep at night it hurts your ego.
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>>130814447
chinese actually had ideas of guns, and there were many artifacts of primitive guns; the idea never took off tho, since metallurgy in china had always been a restrictive bottleneck for tech inprovment, even to this day.
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>>130815854
Book was published by the Japanese,sorry.How did all the people who got colonized lose if they where so superior?
>Use colonial labor and oppression to fuel industrial revolution
This makes 0 sense,you don't need slaves for Industrial revolution,if anything it makes slaves obsolete,hence the American civil war,since North started to industrialize.
In your wonderful post you have also forgot the mention why didn't China have the Industrial revolution before Europeans if they are so smart?Also why did the Chinese lose the opium wars if they are so good?
>Become rich by making colonies poor
So?The colonies that where worth shit freed themselves.Also the average British citizen payed about 10x of the tax an American citizen would pay while it was a colony.
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>>130804271
Yeah right, before the cataclysm of communism and while they had what would be described as a right-wing monarchy. the kind of thing the reactionaries were looking towards in their own flavours when fascism came around.

ffs leaf. own goal.
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>>130816410
>"How did all the people who got colonized lose if they where so superior?

Well, I can shitpost too:
why did it take europeans thousands of years (till 1700) to colonize the world if they were so superior?
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>>130816806
Your question does not make sense since Europeans where the first to do it.Same way they where first to industrialize.It took you 5 mins to come up with this?Sad.
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>>130804271
Chineses are not creative because their current political system is against creativity.
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>>130804271
We wer inventols and sheet
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>>130804271
The creativity argument is the "we wuz kangs" of those who wish to believe whites are superior to asians who in reality surpass them in most ways.

The natural order is slowly being restored after the black swan that was the industrial revolution threw things out of balance for a while and no amount of "our dicks is bigga, nigga" will change that.
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>>130816978
>asks a question
>OP answers
>OP asks a question
>"question doesn't make sense!"
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>>130816978
its the most important question you need you ask about history.
why did europeans become dominant around the 17th century and not others?
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Chinese were incredibly creative and advancing rapidly until Mao happened.
From what I understand Mao destroyed culture altogether, all civility gone.

Today's China is all about economic gain, backstabbing where they can and a general disregard for human life in a bid to get the upper hand in a society that is literally overpopulated.

I work in a Chinese company in the Netherlands and the place is so fucking horrible. They are loud, smell and will throw you under the bus in an instant.

I respect what China was, I loathe what it is today.
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>>130817160
hello, NYTimes journalist
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>>130804271
>un flag

post discarded
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>>130817315
Is there supposed to be some kind of contradiction in there? A nonsense question is a nonsense question.
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>>130817315
Hm?But you did not answer why did the Chinise industrialize first,why did Chinese lose the opium wars,and so on.Your question proves nothing lol.
>W-we lost but it took you long so somehow i am supirior because it took you long even though it took me even longer/i did not do it at all.
Top lel.Also i think you forgot Germany who had some tiny African colony that was not worth shit,and was still an industrial power.What about them?
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>>130817315
The question is retarded?
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>>130817377
Because World powers only started form around the 17th century when countries became powerful enough to travel and influence the world.You know Berlin congress which established France,Prussia,United Kingdoms,Russia as world powers.Sure China had a big ass empire,but it was not advanced enough to influence the rest of the world,aside from the its satellite countries.
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>>130817595
>reads that OP never said that westerners are not creative
>still posts 100 times claiming that OP said Chinese are more creative than europeans

OP was never meant to be China vs Europe...you made it that way because you want to compensate
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Sorry Chinaman that is where it stops after these few inventions dumb fuck Chinese have made NOTHING . America in 100 years invented more shit hen all modern societies combined . Suck on that dog meat !!
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>>130817857
that answer is basically
>becuase history lol
you need to be able to determine what the factors are that led to that point, what were the cultural, historical, geographic and demographic factors?
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>>130817961
But in order to measure something you have an established unit of measurement.I clearly used Europe as that unit.Are you trying to say you are more creative than Africans and Native Americans?Wow,great job.You sure are creative as fuck.
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Summary of this thread

>reads post about China inventing lots of things
>gets jealous and compensates by saying "hey, we invented shit too"
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>>130804271
Modern smokeless powder is not the same gun powder
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>>130818154
Constant warfare?The was not a time Europe was peaceful it was always a competition between inbreed Noble families of all sorts.
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>>130818206
see >>130818269
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>>130818471
>Europeans who invented 80% inventions are jealous of China's 10% inventions
The delusion is real lol.
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>>130818340
china also had constant warfare with much higher numbers
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>>130818548
>posts 100 times off-topic trying to prove that europeans are superior
>laughs off the idea that europeans are jealous
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>>130818737
Well what do you think is the cause?Geographical spot makes no sense since Africa is a lot richer that Europe,I already named some historical ones,culturally Europe was always about competitions and trade,but you just said so was China,and demographically Europe literally had 3/4 of it's population wiped out by the black plague.
>>130818795
People who post China is not creative also need an measurement unit for creativeness,and since most of them European or Americans of European decent naturally they use Europeans as a measurement unit.So i answered why do people say you are not creative.But good job being more creative than Africans and making those few inventions.
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>>130819395
>also need an measurement unit for creativeness"
why?

And if europeans are so smart, why were they sleeping or swinging in trees for 1000s of years?
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>>130819549
>Why?
Basic science,you can measure something without unit to compare proportions to.
>And if Europeans are so smart,why where they sleeping or winging on trees for 1000s of years
They where not.On the other hand you still have not answered why did you not industrialize or lose to Britain.
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>>130806638
This is the stupidest goddamn thing I have ever read on this website. Well done.
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>>130819759
can't*
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>>130814888
Check'd.
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>>130819759
Who said Britain are not creative? Nobody said that

YOU felt the need to defend something that was never said it coz you want to compensate
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>>130819395
geography has much to do with it. firstly europe is surrounded by water, secondly its relatively isolated from asia.
open water and waterways are extremely important for transport and trade. europes relative isolation saved them from the mongols.
geopolitcally, no one group managed to gain hegemon over europe after rome fell. this laid the foundation for the separation of church and state and consequently the enlightenement.

taking a look at china for example, which almost entirely land based, having only one major navigable river the yangtze and floodplains that flood every year. it is the reason that china is chronically centralised - the only counter to the floods is central state planning.
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>>130820007
The people who said China is not creative compared it to countries like Britain though.
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Divide et impera
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>>130820250
OP didn't...this is not a competition between China and Britain...that will be a separate shitposting thread!
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>>130820197

Europe has many small states so leads to competition that spurs innovation. Also China was ruled by a hostile minority, innovation in military things would be to their disadvantage.
This 2 factors imo.
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>>130820693
true, but youd have to explain why those 2 things happened
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>>130820197
Mongols reached Europe but where beaten by the Poles and Croats.Hungary for example almost lost 1/4 of it's population to MOngols.If they where not beaten they they would jsut keep going.So geography had nothing to do with that.
>Europe is surrounded by water
So was China,and African coats.Only Northern African coasts managed to develop civilization while South African still remained uncivilized Europeans used to trade by land route though.Once Muslims closed those routes(because isolation,did not help some European countries at all),only than did the European try to trade over sea.
Church and state where separated 1000+ years after fall of Rome,and in that time period there was no superpower either.Pope had such authority that he could make the German Kaiser wait for him 3 days in white robes if he defied him.So they where split simply out of European greed. Every European country was extremly centralized like China,and China started over Sea trades way before Europe,as it's "Age of Discovery" came much sooner than the European one,yet Europe still remained dominant.Beside isn't my first post about Europe having a lot of wars basically this,just explained to the tea?I just gave an simple answer.
>>130820369
And?I already said you are more creative than Africans and Native Americans,but less creative than Europeans.Where is the problem?
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>>130804271
The modern chinese aren't creative because they are taught to value conformity over everything else. More individuality and they'd have more innovation and creativity.
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>>130821421
Europe used their powers and inventions for destructive purposes. China or India never thought of colonization or killing natives in the name of trade - even when they were at their height.

Europe's rise was fueled by trade with Asia, and on the backs of Asian peasants and the Opium trade. Europe rose because they made Asia fall.

Creative indeed.
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>>130804271
You underestimate the damage Mao did to China, its people and its culture.
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>>130804271
As a Chinese myself: I don't care what the racist white black or brown man thinks, so I'm apathetic to the cause you have started. But since you are my Chinese brother we will have to fight this out to the bitter end.

Y'all crackers steal shit and call it you're own it's hilarious. Also history show you all to be savages whom don't place any ethics into science whereas the true Chinese had gunpowder forever and made the ethical decision not to promote its harm and abuse. World was a better place when China was #1.
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>>130804271
when people say that, they mean things like this
and the exact copy of halstatt, among countless other blatant rip offs.
when i was in china, we actually found a fake apple store selling fake apple products.

the truth is that the chinklets have forsaken their culture and co-opted for a notional fake version of western pop-consumerism to take over everything because they have an inferiority complex
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>>130821421
mongols werent beaten they won every major engagement. the only reason they turned back was because the khan died in karakorum and they needed to go back to elect a new khan
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>>130821980
yes, if the khan hadn't died, entire europe would've perhaps been conquered by the mongols
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>>130821421
china has a coast but obly the east side the entire europe has a coast. most of china is land locked just look at a map ffs.

also no, the church and state separation already began with the fall of western rome, with the papacy being the spiritual successor to rome, and temporal power forming in various kingdoms like francia and hre
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>>130804271
The Chinese stole all of those ideas from someone else.
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>>130806638
Blacks are also more creative than whites.
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>>130809838
Exactly.

Whites are weaker and less athletic than blacks and they aren't as smart as Asians.

So the only way to preserve whites self esteem is to say but but but they aren't creative.
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>>130810266
Tiny white cock.
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>>130821807
So you never said that the creativity had to be positive?Why did not Asia use Europe instead for it's own rise than?
>>130821980
Well that ain't geographical,that's just luck.
>>130822434
But if you have a huge fucking coast(way larger than Germany) you can still trade.And like i said Europe used to trade by land,China could do the same no?
Church and State where one.Laws where based around the Church.Church had bigger rights on paper than the Nobility and although not on paper,due to superstitious peasants they also had more power than the Kings. Just read a the code of law in any Medieval European country and you would see.I mean hell even until the French revolution the Church in France would have more power than the nobility,and France was the first European country to get hit by Enlightenment to a point it started influence the country heavily.
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>>130823844
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>>130824005
>"Why did not Asia use Europe instead for it's own rise than?"

becoz China and India did not have such a destructive mindset
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>>130812756
>Whites have higher iq than blacks.
This is an indesputable fact.

>Asians have higher iq than whites.
Asians cheated. Where is the source. You can't trust tests.
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>>130824175
That's their problem than.
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>>130824328
yeah man, stupid Chinese and Indians just don't believe in killing people and profiting from it...how non-creative
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>>130824005
its geographical because the mongols didnt reach europe due to its distance
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>>130824541
Well you believe in killing which is why you had so many civil wars and dynasty switches,and you believe in profit since you traded with Europeans for money.Clearly something else was the problem here.
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>>130824731
But they reached Central Europe.
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>>130824795
>you traded with Europeans for money
not really, China didn't want anything from Europe. It was the Europeans that fought the Opium wars becoz they had to pay with silver for Chinese tea and that impacted the balance of trade.
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>>130824879
but not the west which is where the innovation of the past 500 years took place
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>>130812756
It's fair to assume that asians are smarter, just like it's true that blacks are overall less intelligent.

Blacks: stronger, high testosterone, dumber
Asians: smarter, weaker, collectivist, low empathy
Whites: smaller deviation to the media, more creative

This does not mean that there aren't smart blacks or highly emphatic asians, I think what made whites go out and do what they did is their ability to not conform, push the boundaries and think outside the box.

>inb4 uncle tom
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>>130824962
Bruh China traded with Europe about 500 years before Opium wars.
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>>130804271
The only creative white people are Jews.

The British are somewhat creative too, but the rest of you goyim trying to claim credit for the accomplishments of all white people is lame.

A potato nigger is not creative.
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>>130824999
A lot innovations come from Central Europe(A good part of Germany is central Europe in fact) and Austria-Hungary is 5th biggest contributor to European inventions.I have already pointed out that Hungary lost1/4 of it population due to Mongol raids.The 4th Biggest Contributor is Italy which is Southern Europe.
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>>130825094
They were mostly selling, and buying only very few items. There has always been more demand in the west of eastern products (spices, silk, tea) than the other way round.

Europe has always needed Asia, and that's why they decided to colonize it.

And of course once you have an industrial revolution, inventions will obviously follow. Even the europeans were creative enough to grasp that.
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>>130804271
They used to be. Communism killed their spirit. It's coming back under the current capitalistic system though.
>>130806638
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>130817304

What "natural order" are you talking about you utter mouthbreather?

Your half-baked worldview has no basis in history or biology. Stop trying to sound like an intellectual.
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>>130825390
Wrong,they where mostly buying.What did Medieval Europe had to sell China?On the other hand Europeans bought spices,tea,gunpowders and for some time compases(Which they later upgraded with to a point that Chinese ones where obsolete). Europeans where selling to the Japanese,things such as guns and gunpowder.Why did not China sell things to the Japanese?
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>>130825077
Whites are not creative.

Just Jews and possibly Britfags. The rest of white people are just goyim pretending they are Steve Jobs.

It makes sense for whites to try and claim the creativity label though since creativity is impossible to prove and whites are not the best at anything.
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>>130825644
Wrong. They were mostly selling.
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>>130825676

What the fuck are you even talking about man..
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>>130825347
they were never conquered like the way baghdad/iran was or russia was.
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>>130825789
Like what?
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>>130825676
>creativity is impossible to prove
true that

>whites are not the best at anything.
they're best at killing people of other countries
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>>130804271
Learn to English, kid.

Chinese WERE creative.
Chinese are not creative anymore.
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>>130825902
i said it already. Asians were mostly selling spices, silk, tea, and all sorts of shit. europeans did not have much that the asians wanted, so they paid in gold and silver coins. This created the balance of trade problem. And the rest is history.
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>>130825892
And Russia is still 6yh biggest contributor to European inventions,sent the first nation in space,and used to be a European superpower.Yet their geographical position is horrible as their whole existence they have been fighting just so they can gain warm waters.
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>>130804271
They only steal now.
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>>130804271
>Brewing alcohol
Yea no
Alcohol has been around since before Babylon.
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>>130826104
But you just said Europeans where mostly selling.Are you okay buddy?How is not getting Gold and Silver not profiting?
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>>130804271
their school system specializes too early, because of this they become ants to the hill
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>>130826169
Nigger are you implying that there weren't Chinese dynasties but befire Babylon?
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>>130807390
Also check Greco-Buddhist art.
The first Buddha statues were made after Alexander reached India and they have very clear influences of Greek style.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhist_art
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>>130806638
Jesus christ fucking kneck urself my dude
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>>130806638
The eternal leaf is at it again
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>>130826237
Dude he said Asians were mostly selling , not Europeans. Hasn't OP already fucked you enough in this thread?
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>they're best at killing people of other countries
>Implying that's bad

It may not be moral, but nature doesn't reward morality, it rewards survival and population expansion.
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>>130826116
cold war russia was built on stolen nazi tech.
russia is culturally european, being in close proximity to europe and politically eurocentric. given their size they should have contributed more
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>>130806904
excellent!
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>>130827186
don't stop! post moar! blow the chinks out of the gutter oil!
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This is the last remaining excuse used (in academia at least) to justify discrimination.

These people were either slaughtered or farmers 4 generations ago and now their running CRSPR trials and going to the moon (and likely going to kill a bunch of people, but hey..progress)..

Yeah, they stole a lot of the tech...but still.

Don't sleep on China.
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>>130825924
Implying you shitskins could ever stop killing each other in a 50 mile radius to ever have real power.
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>>130827209
Lol,i said that the Chinese believed in profit because they sold stuff for money in >>130824962
and he confirms my point in >>130825390 and >>130826104
But somehow in the great Indian mind i have been BTFO.Amazing
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>>130827334
That's a meme,most Nazis surrendered to the USA,not to Russia.Also Russian culture is pretty different to European one,which is why they tried to Europeanize with the help of Netherlands under Peter the Great.
Given it's size China should be the number one contributor to the world,India the second,and Africa the 3rd.Yet this simply is not the case.
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>>130806638
FPBP
>learn new sex positions from wife's boyfriend
>hear new music from loud car speakers
>black people twitter memes
>invented diversity
>African Egyptian kings built the pyramids
>peanut butter
>Beethoven
I could go on all day
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>>130810034
How is Italy> France and US?
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>>130828190
russias contributions happened after peter the great, after its westernisation
and russia stole nazi sub and rocket tech
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>>130804271

Rice farming is extremely labour intensive but supports a big population. That means massive centralization. Centralization leads to intolerance of non-conformity, which leads to selection for low-testosterone and lack of creativity in favour of agreeableness and pro-social aspects of intelligence.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1508726/why-chinas-wheat-growing-north-produces-individualists-and-its-rice

Europeans have been more dependent upon fishing, hunting, foraging, and wheat crops. That produces a lower population density and thus more individualism. Since you rely on yourself for the most part, you have to be creative enough to solve problems which arise without relying on a large family/community. Since there is no strong government, you need to be able to enforce your own interests, which selects for larger body since and higher testosterone. This selection for toughness probably explains a part of why Europeans are dumber than Asians.
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>>130815489
We were kangz n shiet.
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>>130804271
>M-muh ancestors invented a bunch of shit thousands of years ago therefore we must be really creative even though we haven't invented anything in the last thousand years.

Your attitude is as cringy as muslims taking credit for inventing mathematics.
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>>130827819
I wish I could agree with you...I don't really care about china too...but he clearly said that the west was using more and then the Asians were getting gold and silver mostly...
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>>130829373
>drawing individualist circles
>grouping together trains and tracks or trains and buses
truly a watershed study
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>>130814888
Bravo.

Deal with this mercilessly, or find yourself at their mercy.
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>>130807390
>build all kind of statues of higher quality for 600-700 years
>in a later era of one and half millenia some people arround the corner had some DNA strains of greek weebs
>QUINTENSENTIAL GREEK STATUES!
>WE WUZ CHANGZ!

Yeah and niggers built the pyramids.
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>>130829502
>B-but we're more creative since we invented so many things in last 300 years even though we didn't invent anything in thousand years before that.
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>>130829167
we wuz inventors n shieet
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>>130808768
[citation needed]
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>>130809220
they invented black powder not gun powder better formula made by the french and the chinks used it wrong any way
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>>130809220
>its frozen milk

i dont think u can appreciate just how hard it is to make food cold before refrigeration
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>>130804271
They were creative until communism wiped out the core and the culture of China. What occupies the hollow shell of China is a zombie propped up by economics. There is no spirit, no heart left.
If we aren't careful we'll end up in the same boat
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>>130829669
Which i what i said in my original post in >>130824795
He than said they where mostly selling in >>130825390 as an argument to me saying they where mostly selling.It was so retarded that i have read it wrong,though he said Europeans where mostly selling.
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>>130830826
Quite...improve your reading comprehension first.
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>>130829978

I just posted the article to show I'm not pulling the idea out of my rectum. It seems anecdotally true though. Don't be jealous of the north Chinese master race. I know this north Chinese girl who is from a wealthy family, got a PhD in Medical Informatics, very politically aware, is 1.75 tall, and stunningly beautiful. You should find yourself a girl like that instead of perpetuating the Singapore autism.
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>>130804271
>2000 years ago when chinks were white.
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Wassup with all the "Dutch aren't the best" posts these days?

>Eats beef and drinks milk from Holstein cows
>Eats orange carrots
>Uses modern maps
>Has an atlas
>Had cassettes
>Has/had CDs, DvDs and Blu-rays
>Has devices with bluetooth
>Is probably posting this using WiFi
>Eats donuts
>Drinks gin
>Eats chocolate
>Uses high-precision clocks
>Uses modern thermometers
>Uses either Fahrenheit or Celsius for temperature
>Can survive heart problems due to diagnostics of electrocardiography
>Can have blood transfusions from blood banks
>Can survive kidney problems due to dialysis machines
>Uses microscopes
>Uses telescopes
>Plays golf
>Has a thermostat to regulate heating temperature
>Uses projectors
>Doesn't have his house burn down because of firehoses
>Has a four-wheel drive car

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries
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>>130831209
north chinese havent done anything interesting in a while, even in china
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>>130831353
I've always said Dutch people are very creative
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The chinese printing press is absolutely nothing compared to Gutenberg. Same thing with gunpowder.
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>>130809220
>They didn't invent the silkworm

That's like saying the invention of the atomic bomb was irrelevant because the scientists didn't invent uranium
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>>130827186

thank you for redpills, china is pure evil and must be crushed.
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>>130830655
Bitch you live in Canada. For like half of the year all it takes to make food cold without refrigeration is to put it outside.
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>>130831846
Let's see you create an atomic bomb with some uranium because domesticating a bug is easy.
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>>130804271
China used to be incredibly creative and innovative and intelligent and admirable.
Then Mao happened.

Taiwan still has it. Hong Kong to an extent as well.
Really though, communism fucking ruined most of China and it's a damned shame.
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>>130831846
Because we all know how uranium produces fully made atomic bombs by itself.

I mean to get silk out of silkworms you have to enrich the worms in lead lined enclosures and then split the atom, once that's done you can just make them into a bomb and suddenly silk that you can make into clothes. Such creative people.
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>>130832477
>China used to be incredibly creative and innovative and intelligent and admirable.
>Then Mao happened.
Except that by the end of the 17th century all European major countries like France, UK surpassed China with much lower population and time to develop their industries. Then of course the Opium Wars humiliation happened.
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>>130833093
And Rome dominated Europe before its fall.
That's just history, anon.
The problem is when fags like Mao go and try to destroy that history.
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>>130833375
>And Rome dominated Europe before its fall
Rome is/was Europe.
>The problem is when fags like Mao go and try to destroy that history
It's not all his fault. The republican goverment were really incompetent. MacArthur had the best idea regarding China.
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>>130833583
If anything at least he industrialised the country and dragged it to modernity.
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>>130807857
Yet the Holohoax is still on there
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>>130833883
Wikipedia is run by leftists.
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>>130833583
nice little bush
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>>130833764
>If anything at least he industrialised the country and dragged it to modernity.
The great leap forward was his only attempt at industrialization and it lead to the largest manmade famine in history in exchange for unusable poor quality steel made in wood burning forges.
Mao did not industrialize the country.
>>130833569
>It's not all his fault. The republican goverment were really incompetent.
The provisional government and Mao's regime are two different entities.
Mao carried out two disastrous political campaigns which entailed mass murder, mass starvation, and cultural destruction.
The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were his only two great endeavours and they were both tremendous disasters for China.

You can absolutely blame Mao for what happened to China. With no Mao, you get the revisionist commies in the cities and the intelligent classes (which Mao actively shunned and repressed) ruling the country through moderation like they're doing in present times.
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>>130806638
The only thing blacks do better than chinks at is comedy
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>>130834572
I know perfectly well what Mao did you should read about the Four Pests campaign.
>With no Mao, you get the revisionist commies in the cities and the intelligent classes (which Mao actively shunned and repressed) ruling the country through moderation like they're doing in present times.
You have no idea. China today is ruled by the former peasants who became the capitalists after they rose to power in the party.
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I believe that americans are threatened about the inevitable chinese supremacy in the future, so they are making these threads to feel better.
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>>130804271
>>eats Chinese food invented by Chinese
>>posts on 4chan that Chinese are not creative
The definition of ungrateful
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>>130804271
Printing is not Chinese nor is alcohol
>using paper multiple times
Counts as one
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>>130835297
>inevitable chinese supremacy
That's not happening.
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>>130835312
Uma delicia.
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>>130806638
This is true but r*ddit can't think for themselves, and go based chinese peasants, who are cattle tier and can't think for themselves. Remember, 1/6 of the worlds population is chinese, compared to that they are on par with nigger.
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>>130835312
I'm always amazed how can humans do this to newborn children? Same thing with africans but at least they are known savages.
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>>130835253
I'm familiar with the four pests campaign.
It's tremendously insignificant when compared with everything that followed.
>China today is ruled by the former peasants who became the capitalists after they rose to power in the party.
I believe that's something they'd claim, but I sincerely doubt it's true outside of agricultural provinces.
Career politicians are the ones running the show.
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>>130804271
Communism snuffed out all the creativity they had. Take north and south korea for example. The north koreans are butthurt right now because they can't make an as successful TV opera as south korea.

https://youtu.be/gxOb41ImjkI
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>>130804271
Alcohol wasn't first invented by Chinese. It was made by the nairi tribes in Armenia or in Iran.
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>>130835908
>Communism snuffed out all the creativity they had
They never had any.
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>>130835907
>It's tremendously insignificant when compared with everything that followed.
It lead to starvation of around 20 million.
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Lol all the chinks and gooks are on today it seems. Blacks have better culture, musicians and artists. They are just more talented and creative in general. Gooks can only do shitty anime and all of a sudden they are worshipped like they actually accomplished something.
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>>130837070
>Blacks have better culture, musicians and artists
Apart from jazz performers did they do anything really important? Remember that all the songs were written by white people.
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>>130836968
Ah, my mistake, I thought you were referring to his earlier (and much more modest) reclamation and public works projects that actually turned out OK.
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>>130804271
To be quite frank I love china and have no problem with them, they never troubled any europeans like you anglos and kikes out there
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>>130836520
>alcohol
This one is undatable, fermentation is even used by animals.
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The problem with subhumans is that they believe they can live on history forever. Muuh clan invented the fire... 100,000 years BC.... hrhrhrh

Fucking slanty eyed insects
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>>130840462
Oops. That was Kung Fu.

This is Kung Poo.
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#boycottchina
http://archive.is/LDLHW
http://archive.is/Ilxo8
http://archive.is/zHwfe
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>>130826342
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>>130827219
I am just curious
How come Chinks and East Asians in general have such high IQ despite the fact that they have been oppressed peasants for most of their history in a caste-like system?
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>>130809220
>>Clock
>What? Romans had highly engineered time keeping instruments (see antikythera mechanism)
Nope, the mechanical escapement clock was, in fact, invented by the Chinese. This is a very specific thing, and analog computers like the one you cited are another thing as the classical world used water clocks and the like.
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>>130840912
>high IQ
citation?
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No
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>>130840462
>>130824241

I imagine that in the year 2030 when China will outspeed and outperform USA in everything (you) still will be here to post those old webms to calm yourself down into delusion. Go on, i don't mind. You will feel pain sooner or later, when you will realise that you are the second in everything, that your opinions on things don't matter. Its China who will be studying you like a failed experiment, teaching its kids how your country failed and crumbled because of niggers and arrogance.
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>>130804271
It's a meme to make whites feel better about their societies dying by implying Asians won't take up the torch of civilization and improve things dramatically due to their heritable combination of iq and ethnocentrism.

That said, China, like Europe, has a long history of federating then exploding into widespread factionalism. So there's an outside chance that China will implode from the aftershock of the West collapsing and the whole world will be in the dark ages for a few centuries until the non-whites are culled out and another strong nation pulls itself together long enough to clear away the drek and build a lasting civilization.
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>>130841310
>your country
Jokes on you. That's just some autistic Vietnamese dog muncher.
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>>130841773
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That was before China got cucked by the western powers. The century of humiliation shattered the Chinese zeitgeist, and Mao made sure it never returned. China has no culture. The culture they do have is what is retroactivly based on what the west thinks it is. It's why they are just a race of mindless drones.
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>>130811183
made me kek
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>>130809220
What? The Romans were extremely backwards, they actually destroyed more than they contributed.Every engineering achievement of that time was of Greek origin. The Romans strived for a society where nothing would change and every generation would be the same as the last.
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>>130804271
The real Chinese are long long long gone.
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>>130841310
how's it in lower quality-of-life land?
http://archive.is/F5Cza
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>>130840961
Villard de Honnecourt would like a word with you.
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>>130824241
I am so happy that I watched this video before going to China
Whenever I had the balls to take a Chinese elevator, I alway took a long quick leap to prevent this from happening.
Same applies to the upper end of escalators
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>>130804271
>uses clock invented by Chinese
The biggest bulshit I've ever come across.

Mechanical clocks were invented in Europe. China had a few water powered clocks, but they stopped using them eventually, but more importantly: THE GREEKS WERE USING THEM AT LEAST A 1000 YEARS EARLIER.
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>>130840912
they cheat at everything. 80% of the current chinese population lives in sewage infested shitholes with no running water or electricity, but we're supposed to believe they have higher IQs than europeans?
give me a break.
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>>130840961
>Nope, the mechanical escapement clock was, in fact, invented by the Chinese.

A 1000 years before the Chinese used it, it was described in Greek:

"The earliest liquid-driven escapement was described by the Greek engineer Philo of Byzantium (3rd century BC) in his technical treatise Pneumatics (chapter 31) as part of a washstand.[3] A counterweighted spoon, supplied by a water tank, tips over in a basin when full, releasing a spherical piece of pumice in the process. Once the spoon has emptied, it is pulled up again by the counterweight, closing the door on the pumice by the tightening string. Remarkably, Philo's comment that "its construction is similar to that of clocks" indicates that such escapement mechanisms were already integrated in ancient water clocks"

>Philo's comment that "its construction is similar to that of clocks" indicates that such escapement mechanisms were already integrated in ancient water clocks
>such escapement mechanisms were already integrated in ancient water clocks
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>>130833093
France and britain didn't get shitfucked by mongolians.
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