So /pol/, I'd like to have a discussion about paganism and Christianity that isn't just retarded memes and hurr durr kike on a stick.
I've called myself both and I've never been really able to believe. I just don't get the whole "Jesus was the son of God". It's so highly intellectual and isn't rooted into any experience of daily life, unless you believe already and feel God's presence, whatever that looks like. Whereas pagan gods make tons of sense, you've been angry, you've been vengeful, you encounter things like childbirth, family and seasons, etc. So they are self-explanatory. But again, that agricultural society is long gone. So yeah days are longer but you sit inside an air conditioned space, now what. I don't consider them real, just mythologies, like Jordan Peterson more or less.
On the other hand, heroes of pagans celebrate life and revel in all aspects of it, war and feasts, depravation and lusciousness. When you look at the church, especially the saints, its all ascetism and people flogging themselves, no sex before marriage, fun outlawed. If you want help from a pagan god you sacrifice something to it, do something concrete, if you want help from the Christian god you just sit there saying words in your head.
Yet go to a pagan meeting and the people there are hippies and insufferable, while at church they are usually both gentle, no-nonsense and steadfast in their beliefs. Today the pagan larpers are all "love refugees" while the Christian parishioners I know are trying to stop the flow, even when the church is saying otherwise.
So what is it? Is everyone wrong? Is there no hope? Am I overlooking something?
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Christian traditions derive from pagan traditions. It is no mystery that Christmas is a rip of Yule. Most of christian traditions were copied from the Europeans to help them adopt the religion better. Christianity is only about controlling the masses.