How to fix the obesity problem

>>130782971
Forced reeducation camps.

>>130782971
You could start by having the FDA remove all kinds of shit companies are allowed to dump in food.

In 50 years people are going to look back in horror at what companies were allowed to put in food, the same way people look at those old videos of people spraying down kids with DDT to show how "safe" it was.

>>130783098
That would be too costly. We should work on preventing obesity by taxing unhealthy foods. If t doesn't prevent obesity at least the state gets more money to pay to take care of these fat useless fucks

>>130783251
Why? If they would be forced into physical labour, they would actually pay for themselves.

>>130782971
there already is tax on bad foods here in the uk, its done nothing.

people are not taught how to look after themselves, either by families or schools.

all schools should have free gyms for all students and they should be shown how to do an effective workout.

>>130782971
we could stop subsidizing corn and let the market correction do the same to the price of sugar as the tax would have

just seems more honest somehow

Remove corn syrup from food

Tax unhealthy food

>>130783384
>>130783408
>MUH CORN SYRUP
yes that will solve everything

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>>130783473
eat it
don't eat it
why subsidize it?

>>130783251

Why should skinny and healthy people be punished for the irresponsibility of fat fucking lard tub guts?

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>>130783098
This.

>>130783251
We've tried that and it inadvertently penalizes innocent people as well.
They [obese people] have an impulse control disorder, they cannot make rational choices in face of it and are not dissuaded by a tax as a rational person would. It's like a junky, they can't wait to get their next hit of food.
I have am of a healthy weight and low-healthy BMI and actually control myself whenever I engage in the consumption of so called "unhealthy foods".

I can buy a coke and drink one a day and manage to not exceed a caloric intake that would cause me to gain weight from its consumption. Actually, now that I think about it, fat people should just be put down instead making me pay more for the things I enjoy.

>>130782971
I like the idea of charging people extra if they fat. Over here they are a huge drain for the NHS, a tier type system where obese people have to pay a charge would be nice. I don't know if we can get retards to not eat shit.

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>>130783670
>filename

>>130783753
Are fat*

The USA population is 75% overweight. There's nothing that can be done under a democratic regime.

>>130782971
My solution.

You seen hunger games (pun intended) or battle royal (weebo one). Well here is my spin on it

>For every point over your ideal BMI you get one ticket
>Every year there is a lottery to pick out who fights to the death or starve
>More tickets, more likely to get picked
>Have a 2 year grace period for people to get in shape

Solves the obesity problem in a decade.

>>130783712
>I can buy a coke and drink one a day and manage not to gain weight.

The number of people who don't understand this is awfully high.

>>130783762
I know, I took it from google pics and that was funny so I didn't rename, and you made me laugh for pointing out and now I wanna post it again.

>>130783795
If we can't fix the obesity problem we can still try to prevent it for the next generation of Americans by education them. If that doesn't work then we are fucked because obese people are eating up our tax dollars

>>130782971
Taxing things is first and foremost just a way of making the government more money to waste. Any proposed dissuasive effect is just an attempt to rationalise their money grabbing.

Just bring back fat shaming. So what if some of them more actively kill themselves? They're already doing it in a less direct way.

>>130783826
If it was based on BMI it would just turn into /fit/izens Vs hamplanets.

Which sounds amazing desu senpai.

>>130783945
They are slowly killing themselves and costing us tax payers a lot of money. If only obese people died quicker

>>130783899
>education is the answer!
It doesn't take a fucking rocket scientist to know that shoving McDonalds in your gob every day will make you fat. They know, they just do it anyway because it's their drug of choice.

>>130784164
This. People who are low iq will eat shit just for the quick good feeling that lasts a few moments, as opposed to long term health. Let them kill themselves just don't make me pay for it.

>>130784333
This opens up a deeper wound though. We've created a culture and society consumed by pleasure seeking with no higher order. As stupid as they are it's hard to blame them when they're told "do what makes you happy" by all around them, and further afield.

>>130783251
This would only work when they use the tax to actually fight the problem, and they don't do that. Philadelphia passed a "soda" tax that also nails some healthier products, and then doesn't use a single dime of that money to fight obesity.

>>130782971
>Or should we put a fat tax on sodas and chips?
>taxing healthy people too because obese retards can't control their eating
kys.

Obese people should be taxed directly proportionally to their body mass. BMI over 35 should taxed prohibitively, $1000000 per month. If fat doesn't pays his tax he is moved to fat reeducation camp on 1000 calories diet.

>>130784580
>We've created a culture and society consumed by pleasure seeking with no higher order.
It always been like that. Hell in the long run US happen because people were gluttonous fucks.

bring back fat shaming like they have in asia

>>130782971

just fucking exercise and dont eat like shit

im going to the gym soon myself, it isnt hard

>>130782971
make food more expensive. no more subsidies/tax breaks.

>>130784956
>make fast food more expensive. no more subsidies/tax breaks.

>>130784864
>I'm going to the gym soon myself, it isn't hard
That's what they all say.

If you are obese you are excluded from all forms of welfare.

If you van privately sustain your disgusting body then go for it, but there will be no staye support for you at all. Even when you die we'll just have your body reprocessed into animal feed.

>>130784864
>just fucking exercise
Meme mistake. One burger "standard" milkshake has more calories they can spend by daily exercise. Stop eating. This is real solution.

>>130782971
You aren't fixing it. Your solutions would be laughed out of the window. You want to fix this issue? You need war. End of story. Talking about taxing food and "forced labour camps" is ridiculous.

>>130784956
>punishing innocent people for sins of others
Spoken like a true European.

japan fines people for being overweight iirc. makes sense since they have socialized healthcare. no abusing the system.

>>130785152
>taxing food is ridiculous
We literally did it. Madmen.

>>130784580
They are being told consuming excess volumes of unhealthy food for the quick high give is "happiness". In the short term it is but most people know that living an unhealthy lifestyle decreases overall life happiness. A penalty system so you pay more if you have health related issues, is an idea. Not taxes though, cause that is penalising everyone for the acts of a fat few.

>>130785047

no really, I go almost daily (rest day every few days)

weights then some cardio, it isnt difficult and it makes you feel great

>>130785074
Nothing confuses me more than seeing fat people on welfare. You are consuming hundreds of dollars worth of food every day you worthless sack of fat kill yourself!!!!

>>130785152
>You need war.
Kek. Obese are unfit for military service. War kills best healthy men and leaves trash people.
>inb4 taxing food and "forced labour camps" during war

>>130785174
people that dont subsist on garbage processed food would be mostly unaffected.

>>130785203
Yeah, because thats going to fix the issue isn't it? If they want the food, they'll get it one way or another. They talked about introducing a sugar tax and that's barely done anything.

Put them in zoos. Give them all the food they want and have normal people pay to see them.
Fat fucks wouldn't mind as long as they get fed.

>>130782971
We correct their genomes.

>>130785273
Aka rich.

>>130782971
>Should we deny fat people healthcare?
no: just price most of them out of healthcare

>Or should we put a fat tax on sodas and chips?
no, that'd be socialist, and socialism is for hive insects

>Any other ideas on how we can fix the obesity epidemic?
offer them enough money to pay for healthcare if they accept to participate real cruel and savage games

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>>130782971
Im fat (180, 5'6) and I wish the government would at first allow then force you to basically starve you in a shoah camp till you drop to a average BMI.

>>130785372
>le poor people cant eat healthy meme
sure thing ivan

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>>130785152
>When someone says you're a dreamer---
>I can only answer, you idiot!
>If I weren't dreamer where would we be today?
>I've always believed in an end to obesity
>You said I was mad!
>You said that was utopian!

>>130782971
Change the EBT/Foodstamps.
Make a cheep flavorless nutrient kibble for humans. Give them just enough to have the minimum daily calories needed. EBT only buys flavorless kibble, if they don't ration it out over the month they starve.

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>>130785413
>5'6
Why even live?

>>130785413
force you after you become like that whiny subhuman fuck Boogie

>>130785413
Sort yourself out.
>>130785268
They'll be ready for military service, don't you worry about that. Train them up.

nutrition is the key

even if you go to the gym 7 days a week you cant eat like shit.

use myfitnesspal as a guide. stop eating sugar filled crap. meat is good. avoid soda.

Stop putting high fructose cornshit in food for one.

Gluttony? Execution.

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>>130785453
>kibbles
Kek are we dogs now? I like the idea though

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>>130785435
10/10

>>130785456
Im not a suicidal faggot who lives in a depressing HIV ridden shithole?

I actually enjoy life except for being fat.

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>>130782971
SIMPLE: Tax it, like tobacco or anything else that's unhealthy. Look at elections, the only thing people care about is their Job and taxes. So you can only fix the problem with one of the two to be efficient.

>>130785413
>burger
>fat
>manlet
>thinks government can fix all his issues

Jej

How about no socialized healthcare in general

>>130785413
You are weak in mind and body while also lacking discipline. Jkys

>>130785622
I could fuck you up nigger

>>130785431
They can. But they have less resources (money, time, living space) to do so than rich.

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Educate people that filling your body with poison is bad for the long term.

Burgers need to be taught that apparently.

>>130785587
Too bad that is almost impossible to get passed in a lot of western countries.

Otherwise I'm completely for that, all we seem to be doing over here is paying for boomers, fats and muds.

>>130785498
>They'll be ready for military service,
Nope military doesn't need trash. And military during war has authority and can choose. So first it throws into meat grinder perfectly healthy white men in their prime age. When no more good people left only then military starts using trash.

>>130785559
Call it what you want.
Futurama called it Bachelor Chow.
It's a good concept though.

>>130785587
This would help in a sense. People would still get obese but no one else would have to pay for them.

>>130785826
>Education will save us.

They know it's not good for them but they continue to do it. They need to be punished.

>>130782971
Put America under a blockade like they did to North Korea

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>>130785563
>I actually enjoy life except for being fat
Keep telling yourself that

i guess they could be hooked on cocaine, so.?.

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>>130785413
Hop off that mobility scooter, leave your trailer park and go for a run you fat leech stop being a drain on society you do nothing but drag us down

>>130783098
This.

Bring back the gulag

>>130785237
My entire point is there's no meaningful distinction between forms of "happiness", between fulfilment and pleasure so to speak. This is a deeper philosophical problem than fatties though, who can easily stop being a problem given that they're killing themselves already.

>>130785275
I didn't say it would. It was more an attempt to point out the ridiculousness of our situation.

What we're doing about fatties and smokers and the like is the equivalent of asking politely that someone stop shooting up but qualifying the request by reaffirming that it's entirely up to them and they should do what makes them happy. It's absurd.

>>130782971
Those are the people capitalism most needs, since they pay the most for healthcare. That guy is probably on couple of pills if nothing else.

Taxing fast food and junk food only creates bigger problems of poverty that will increase crime rates and homelessness due to fat cunts and dindu nuffin's.

The answer is to introduce STRICT methods of diet and fitness into early mainstream education systems from young ages as well as subsidizing healthier meals and food options.,

>>130785275
They are trying:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/sugar-reduction-achieving-the-20
Hasn't happened yet. It's only for added sugar, not natural sugar, but not for sugar added during production, that isn't even mentioned on the product. It's also GMO that can hide things, which again won't be mentioned on product.

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3 years hard labor at gulag!

>>130782971
what about obligatory conscription?

>>130782971
We don't
We should just let mother nature take care of us and give all the obese people heart attacks before they even get into their 40s

After some fatties die, because of their stupidity, rest of fat people would finally see that they have a choice between dying early or not living like a pig and being at least a little bit fit

Why should we care about fatties?
They contribute by paying for pensions they will never get, because they will die early
Are we a filthy socialist that we really need regulate something that mother nature can take care of if we just let her do the job?
Do you really think that people are so stupid that they need to be hand-holded through their entire life?
We should just let them make that mistake

>>130787684
>adding two disgusting things together
You unlocked total degeneracy. Don't give them ideas, since they will make such porn.

>>130782971
Tax is theft.

>>130787909
Retard ancap.
He didn't suggest taxation.
Nor are most people here.
Most are are suggesting the use of force.

The free market cannot solve obesity but labor camps and bullets can.

>>130786856
Surely the philosophical side could be amended by adding consequences (unhappiness) to the decisions people make. Such as fat shaming etc. This would add an element to the decisions people make and deincentivise them from making certain short term decisions.

Bringing back slut/fat/gay shaming could help bring down the problem.
If not then a financial punishment could help.

It won't get rid of the issue sure but alleviate the financial burden on society.

>>130787909
Tax always exists, either you get taxed by store, import/export or government. Can be both and even more like inflation.

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>>130782971
Why not just invent a cheap synthethic food which has 0 calories, fat, addatives and stuff but it's been made to taste somewhat normal and make people feel full by stimulating the tastebuds or brain or chewing muscles.
So if someone has a eating disorder from stress and what not instead of opening a bag of chips they can eat a tube of this paste or make a sandwich out of it thus not allowing them to become fat but allow them to overeat if they have to.

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>>130782971
>Should we deny fat people healthcare? Or should we put a fat tax on sodas and chips?

>>130788025
>he didn't suggest taxation
Here is his exact quote "Or should we put a fat tax on sodas and chips?" Fuckin retarded nazi, you worship an austrian, drug addicted manlet who killed himself while his country was being taken over, Hitler was thd ultimate cuck.

>>130788111
>Why not just invent a cheap synthethic food which has 0 calories, fat, addatives and stuff but it's been made to taste somewhat normal and make people feel full by stimulating the tastebuds or brain or chewing muscles
Yeah, they will sooner cure cancer than create something like this

>>130783945
>Just bring back fat shaming.

This is actually the best solution. The problem nowadays is that people choose to buy cheap, convenient food. The convenient "healthy salad" costs 10$, the 10pack of twinkies costs, I don't know, 4$? I'm not even murrican, so what do I know. The point is that the paradigm "salad = healthy, everything else = unhealthy" is such ridiculous, utter horseshit since actual healthy food, such as a bunch of rice and beans, costs next to nothing. It does, however, require a bit of perspective, time and effort from the consumer. That is everyone's own responsibility.
Yes, excessive taxation on convenience food could solve the problem, but the majority of people wouldn't agree with it.
Fat shaming, like raising taxes on shit food, will force everyone to think about their shitty habits. If they make the wrong choices, they will get shamed. Better would be to make them shamed and poor, but, as I pointed out, that is not going to work. So we'll have to make do with shaming.

>So what if some of them more actively kill themselves?
They're doing the world a favor. Fat people are useless pieces of shit.
>They're already doing it in a less direct way.
Way too slowly though. In the meantime, they'll suck up medical benefits like they gobble down 4l bottles of soda.

>>130782971
To fix obesity is to basically fix laziness and gluttony, how do you fix either of those in a society where the next big technological leap is aimed at making peoples lives more autonomous and gives them even more of a reason to be lazy and a society intent on creating as much new appealing junk food as possible.

There are multiple things that would have to change that won't. It will simply get worse and worse until they develop some kind of medication that prevents people eating themseleves to death, there is already a huge increase in people getting gastic bands / bypass, even though they claim to have tried every diet and nothing works, they are simply in denial about what they are eating and how much they are eating. The next step will just be a non intrusive pill people take rather than addressing their underlying faults.

>>130788111
Gum?

Tv/ Computers powered by treadmills or bicycle
> Make fattie walk or ride to charge up electronic
> Get fit while watching tv

>>130788329
Nah you're right. Even if they did make a food like that the companies that make junkfood will lose money and that'll make ((((them))) mad.

>>130788319
When you have Socialism and control own money and production and you don't need to import then your tax will be very low. Why tax yourself when you are the producer, the buyer and write all laws. Tax is mainly high because international trade and because merchants make them high to make money and those same merchants are also working for government.

>>130782971

Killing fat people will fix the obesity question.

>>130788319
Still single-handedly managed to accomplish more than all AnCaps collectively combined ever.

You worship an incoherent utopian belief system that will always be impossible to realize. Men have faults. Ideologies shouldn't.

>>130782971
Brainwashing. Make them watch fat hate related stuff all day long, until they're so disgusted by themselves that they start being healthy.
Worked for me.

>>130787909
>Tax is theft.
Unless we tax fat people. Their appetite is violating the NAP.
>obesity is theft

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>>130787909
But seriously, the problem with the "tax is theft" idea is that google says you're wrong, and google is the closest thing to god we have.

>>130788528
That's not how you get fit. You can't outrun your fork.
>>130788574
Not even that, it's just likely not possible. Unless it's plain water, it can't be 0 calories. Fucking with your brain chemistry to make you feel full - not sure if that's a good idea, could potentially damage your gut-brain connection. Not a biologist or anything though, so I might be wrong here.

>>130788796
Make over half the media be essentially a fat hate thread.

>>130789030
Tax is theft when government doesn't asks people how high the tax should be and for what. We should vote for tax rates, but first they should educate people in school about what tax is used for.

>>130782971
Make fat people pay more for health insurance.

>>130789187
That would be swell.
I'm sure nothing helped me more than watching morbidly obese degenerates praising their disgusting deformity of a body.

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>>130782971
Mandatory camp and forced dieting.

Why does something need to be done? It's better that something isn't done, as fatties shouldn't be in the gene pool to hide the genes further down the line.

>>130789982
Because they are costly, fat women get with niggers who want that "big booty" and now you have single mothers on welfare. A half nigger child who will be pretty much retarded who will go on gibs and lead to increased crime. That's not including the healthcare costs, and the fact we have to look at them and their disgusting fat mixed children.

>>130782971
Deny it
Put tax on sodas and chips and force every youth to join military camp for a while. If they are older, force them to have a health camp.

>>130782971
Former fatty here.
I can't tell you what will work for any one individual, but the way I lost about 120 lbs. was:

1) starved for almost a year on 160 calories a day...dropped the weight at 1 to 2 lbs a day, faster, at first, slowing down then later.

2) when weight was almost entirely gone, got back into exercising (I had always lifted weights, but stopped during the starvation process). Worked my way up to 10 klicks a day on the stationary bike, then added lifting again, trying to work back up to the same strength level I had before.

3) Eating: I cut out all booze with the exception of maybe twice a year. I cut out all simple carbs, meaning sugar, bread, potatoes, wraps, etc. My carbs now come from vegetables, some fruits, a little from nuts (you can make a delicious pizza using flax and almond flour for the crust). I grow a lot of my own food in the backyard & keep chickens for the eggs. I eat a lot of turkey, it's cheap if you buy a whole bird to cut up, and it's delicious. I also eat cheese and add oils to food. I'm still losing weight, and now can see my 6-pack abs.

What prompted all this? Heart problems. The heart problems are now gone completely, and I've taken myself off all medication my doctor originally prescribed (don't expect him to advise that for you, as he opens himself up to lawsuits if anything goes wrong, and you can't make money if you don't sell prescriptions).

I've never been healthier, and I'm 58 years old.

>>130785559
The welfare leeches may as well be. Actually, dogs are useful. Maybe cows? Expect they only produce milk in the form of votes for whoever promises more gibs.

>>130783098
Anyone advocating taxes are retarded. Remove sugary food from schools, mandatory p.e., possibly a bill of some sorts to sue a person for being obese