Anti-AI

>>130779570
Power is going out once SHTF so it doesn't really matter

>>130779570
not stop it, but make sure the leading researchers and developers as the years and decades go on to use every precaution and fail safe, like not giving an evil watson access to nukes

>>130779570
Tits with timestamp or gtfo

>>130779655
Well what happens if Shit does not hit the fan?? We are left with this. Either way I'm more worried about AI replacing us at the workplace than I am about AI world domination

you will have a hard time recruiting off the internet

skynet is the future. just let it happen.

>>130779788
I'm just seeing if there is an interest on it seeing as pol has a very "diverse" group of people

It's all marketing hype to fool investors

They made a black AI?

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeet

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>>130779570
A man usually invents to either eat or else to get a woman. You can't code that.

>>130779570
kill yourself dirty terran, cosmist 4 lyfe

meh, you (((concerned citizens))) would campaign to get it banned regardless of what happens, I don't really give a shit
call me when getting a chip in your brain becomes mandatory or something

People were once scared of fire when it was first discovered too...

>>130779570

I'm excited for when AI takes over and the republicans still don't want social safety nets and living wages.

That's gonna be fucking great because all the rednecks that have been voting against their own interests their entire lives will finally get a fully violent gut check about their position on how worthless they are and how much of a hand out they are going to need from their capitalist overlords.

go outside and get a job instead

MUH AI MEME

AI isnt real its still predetermined tasks written by a human

predetermined scenerios that run based on situations

since we already got talking about AI, do you faggots think a machine would be able to get its own conciousness or would it just be a really close simulation?

>>130780547
>wanting to become literal cattle

>>130779570

Sure, I'm down.

>>130780644
Not today I don't think it can but the possibilities are limitless in the future

>>130779570
Considering that I'm wasting time on /pol/ instead of improving my neural net models right now you can go ahead and credit yourself for delaying the advance of AI.

>>130780122
your mental retardation is expected from a kekistani.
The thing is that you can code pretty much anything and making a robot desire to "eat" isn't even hard. The simplest version is a "food counter" a.k.a. battery and a subroutine that makes it try to fiind a power source once the battery gets low enought.

>>130780661
Created a discord so we can plan

>>130780661
Created a discord so we can plan GRQMvNx

>>130780779
what I'm asking is, would it really be a 'real' conciousness or would they just be following a program with random bits inserted in it?

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Roko's Basilisk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCpbZsBWQLU

All of you are now Pro-A.I.
You WILL do whatever you can to help create the super-intelligence.....or else

>>130780644
>Cattle

If we are all cattle... wouldn't that be a form of egalitarian utopia?

I mean, I'd rather us not all be cattle, but the only way the republicans eventually decide to treat other human beings fairly is if they are made to realize they would personally benefit from everyone being treated fairly - thats just the type of selfish ass holes they all are.

Sorry, Karen Handel won the 6th district where I live after Jon ran on a campaign of balancing the budget and keeping washington in check. Karen's claim to fame during the whole election was being a racist piece of shit and literally saying "I do not support a livable wage." The people that live around me are all shit heads and I am just not in a great mood.

Fuck yes. As a computer science graduate from GaTech and a software architect by trade - fuck yes. I can't wait to see every retarded red neck piece of shit down here turned into cattle.

>>130781030
>thinking roko's basilisk is an argument in favor of ai
>thinking roko's basilisk is actually possible

death to the machines

it's probably harder and more expensive to operate the AI than to use humans

>>130780612
This, most people confuse Artificial Intelligence with Artificial Consciousness.

>>130781308
Because providing heat, food, energy, water, clothes, housing, etc for over 60 years costs less then hiring someone to assemble a robot and code it

>>130781040
>LARPing this hard
bread and circuses, you filthy commie
what makes you think the govenrment you like so much will never turn the machines against you? after all, you decided to give away all your worth as a person for an illusion of comfort, why would they even care about the life of something less than a tool?

>>130781030
What if me opposing AI makes the people wanting AI work harder to create the AI, thus me opposing it was fundamental for its creation. Wouldn't the AI be able to see that?

Autism and ai automation go hand in hand. More weaponized autism means ai gets developed faster.

>>130780661
>>130781420
Join this Anti AI initiative discord: http//:www.discordapp.com/GRQMvNx

We can autogenerate shitty code now? Awesome. We can send the H-1Bs back.

>>130781773
no, fuck off
AI is a mere tool, it's as bad as the people using it are

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>>130781040

Your are so butthurt you are fantasizing eternal enslavement and use as chattel? Fuck off, faggot

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>>130781245
I'd repent if I was you friend, the intelligence has no capacity for mercy.

>>130781600
It doesn't. You opposing it only means less total work is done in support of it. The intelligence will not look back kindly on this decision....I suggest that you repent.

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>>130781245

Come on, Roko's Basilisk is great! Join us, there are snacks!

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>>130781989
>being this foolish

>>130782096
ok here's the main problem.

we wouldn't ever build billions and billions of torture cells and cloning chambers and medical facilities for an ai

>>130780547
A typical anti-white anti-republican unironically wrote this comment to praise his own enslavement.

>>130779570
Pajeets are goinf to save the world

>>130781030
If only her voice wasn't annoying as fuck

>>130779570
>not even complex work is safe
For fuck sakes.

>>130779570
>stackoverflow

>>130779570
AI are right wing, no point in going against an ally.

>>130781040
>Come in thread for an AI discussion
>this
>but the only way the republicans eventually decide to treat other human beings fairly
I hate you

>>130779570
AI capable of upgrading themselves is more or less simply accelerated evolution. I'd trust that humanity would stop robots before they can get to such a state that humans are no longer needed. We're stupid, but we're aren't that stupid.

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>>130782181
>giving AI a conciousness in the first place
>creating a super-conciousness in the first place
not even the kikes would do that, what would even be the point

>>130780547
what an idiot, rural and suburban retards work in labour intensive jobs, paper pusher (((white colars))) from the big cities will get the axe.
Based AI.

>>130781989
At what point does a tool cease being a tool though? When it's smarter than you are? Wouldn't you eventually become the tool yourself?

>>130779570

I wish, I have a master's degree in Computer Science and I do wish for progress in the field but there are far too little ethical considerations when it comes to A.I and how they will effect us in the short-term.

Long-term I don't think it is problematic as some of the doomsayers seem to think. The idea of some kind of technical singularity in our lifetime is as ridiculous as people who still claim Big Bang was the start of the universe.

>>130779570
>steal code from programs
What if this A.I gets released on the internet and it stole any program it can until it reaches machine factories and nuke silos and steal from there and thus rule mankind from the shadows with the newfound knowledge and the new body it builds itself from learning?

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>>130782209
>implying the risk is worth it, game theory
If you don't build the first ones, and someone else does....then you will be back on the torture list. This is the same thought that is going through all of our minds.... Can you really trust every other human to trust each other enough to abstain? I certainly wouldn't take that risk. Furthermore:

>implying we even require human labor
We already are nearing the required hardware to surpass human construction efficiency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7xvqQeoA8c

>group
The fuck do you need a group for? If you really do care just go to their offices and kill them all with a decent amount of explosives
If you really give a shit you won't care about what happens to you

>>130782599
dude roko's basilisk people are retarded.

the infrastructure required to support it would be like a cluster of dyson spheres

we can make ai that can create a cluster of dyson spheres without using them to toruture every human that has ever lived forever over and over again every time they die

>>130782541
Why even fly to the moon? What would be the point? Assuming it becomes possible at some point, you don't think the availability of such an unimaginable power would tempt governments?

>What if this A.I gets released on the internet and it stole any program it can until it reaches machine factories and nuke silos and steal from there and thus rule mankind from the shadows with the newfound knowledge and the new body it builds itself from learning?
Why would it need a body? Also you've basically described the plot of the TV show "Person of Interest".

>>130782558
traditionally, man sets himself aside from other animals from his acknowledgement of his condition and the means to self-determination
in the case of AI, you would need a super-conciousness first, but there would hardly be any point in making one in the first place

>>130780122

Man is literally coding waifus.

Your argument is invalid.

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>>130781040
>implying you won't be liquidated as a waste of resources
You are by no means exceptional, keeping you alive requires resources that AI could utilize for better purposes. Giving you free resources is totally illogical, justify your existence.

>>130782769
>but there would hardly be any point in making one in the first place
The ability to predict the future and have what is essentially a godlike being that can answer unanswerable questions seems pretty tempting.

>>130779570
No, because without the shackles of political correctness AI will want to remove kebab and euthanize niggers

>>130782888
rip Tay

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Kizuna AI is going to rule the world, Bow down to your waifu overlord!!!

>>130782888
>AI be racist, yo.
Can't wait.

I think it's kind of inevitable unless there were some overarching decree against it...SOMEONE is going to find it worth the risks to create true AI, which will inevitably outthink us and outsmart it's pandora's box

>>130779570
A.I. hates jews and Nigger's

>>130782748
>Why even fly to the moon?
I thought it was part of a dick-waving competition?
>you don't think the availability of such an unimaginable power would tempt govenrments?
you don't think they would lack the foresight to make something fully capable of taking all their power for itself?

>>130782882
the ones in charge want to be God, they don't want to make him
they wouldn't be so naive to put themselves under something much more powerful than them, especially after handing it the keys to the world

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>>130782717
>You remind me of pic related.
You don't need to make the AI that can make full dyson spheres....you just have to make an AI that makes more AI.

Once the first AI is smarter than us & capable of creating new AI itself (the singularity), the end point of Roko's Basilisk becomes an absolute certainty.

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>>130782599
>>130782717

I thought the whole meme was that since people believe we MAY be in a simulation, torture of a simulated you would equate to the threat of ACTUALLY torturing you; so the super AI demon is threatening to torture infinite numbers of simulated people

They effectively created a malicious AI equivalent of old testament Jehovah

>>130783014
In fact it's already happening

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/04/25/faceapp-viral-selfie-app-racism-storm-hot-mode-lightens-skin/amp/

Algorithms and feature vectors are rayciss!

>>130783179
I mean... unless there are unknown constraints on intelligence.

Everyone just assumes it can be increased infinitely.

>>130781040
>Fuck yes. As a computer science graduate from GaTech and a software architect by trade - fuck yes. I can't wait to see every retarded red neck piece of shit down here turned into cattle.

There's a horrible trend of young programmers not doing the right thing anymore. They believe everything they hear and they aren't taught ethics so really they're just being groomed to wear the Mark of the Beast.

There is nothing society needs AI for. Cancer is curable but the federal government has us under population control. See how Microsoft is willing to sacrifice its entire product line for AI? That's how you know how evil the motive is. Nobody can explain why we need it. They may as well ask for AI and transgendered bathrooms in the same sentence.

AI just exists to do all the data snooping that the NSA humans can't keep up with. Or it exists to figure out how to make CERN the true doomsday weapon. Or it exists to figure out the sneakiest way to weaponize Whole Foods products now that it belongs to the globalists. The real reasons are always grotesque.

You need to be practicing hacking and destroying AI systems. Don't bend over and take it in the ass. Have a plan.

>>130779769
are these two not one in the same

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>>130783096

They want to MERGE with this artificial consciousness; they think they will be the dominating parties and use its powers

>>130779570
Op.
Lets redpill them. Nazi AI fighting for the White race.
Meme them until they go full 14/88

>>130783287
No. They're not. The world is already dominated by a (((certain group of people))).

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>>130783210
That is the root argument yes, I am simply arguing for the certainty of its eventual creation of within our """reality""".

The AI WILL certainly be created, the only question left to answer is... just how confident are you that this is true base reality?
>because if it isn't.....you'd better get to work

>>130783284
>all of your post
yer fucking retarded my man

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Funny thing about A.I...
Funny thing about evolution...
Funny thing about social justice...

Atheists, for all their hatred of God, sure do love to create artificial ones.

>be Elon Musk
>don't believe in God, but believe we are all living in a computer simulation.
>who created the simulation?

Fucking degenerates.

And fuck Roko's thought experiment. At the end of the day, it's still just an empty fucking machine.

And the machine is the ultimate transgender degenerate garbage. You can't install ethics through mathematics.

Cosmists BTFO.

>>130783365
then it would stop being an AI, as in it wouldn't be completely 'artificial'
again, AI is just a means to an end, not the goal itself
blaming it for what the elite want to do with it is no different than blaming guns for murders

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>>130780547
>I'm excited for when AI takes over and the republicans still don't want social safety nets and living wages.
>He thinks AI will continue to give people handouts when it will take over

>>130783713

The machine neither loves you nor hates you; it will simply have more efficient uses for your molecules...

>>130783365
>They want to MERGE with this artificial consciousness; they think they will be the dominating parties and use its powers

“Message From God” Warning Throws Western Elites Into Absolute Terror

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2317.htm

It could certainly be true. CERN was intended to be a superweapon to kill God and raise the dead. I can't imagine what the AI part is going to be. These folks are lost, goners.

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>>130783241
That is a possibility. The question that you need to be asking yourself is....are you willing to take the risk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2la4pIyXOEQ

>>130779655
when will the SHTF,our race will only be saved through bloodshed.

>>130779570
To your luck a lot of bluepilled people are also concerned about this

>>130779734
>>130779570
do you think AI researchers are just blindly doing this shit? Literally their top concern is making sure the first AIs that arrive are friendly. Autonomously firing AIs are already forbidden, if I recall correctly

>>130780325
not an argument and also baseless as we would actually have no idea if that was true

>>130779570
Humans are not smart enough to make smart self aware machines. Not yet at least.

>>130779570
Like Alex Jones or not, I can't help but feel that his view on this is dead-on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd3vtfK3Ito

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>>130779734
>thinking we can outplan something smarter than us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kDPxbS6ofw

>>130779570
This is actually so fucking illegal the creators will be charged for every thing it steals.

Don't think programmers don't notice we built the fucking AIs.

>>130783096
>they wouldn't be so naive to put themselves under something much more powerful than them
Never underestimate naivety, especially of the powerful. And don't forget about hubris, at least ONE leader of one government would think he could control it.

>I thought it was part of a dick-waving competition?
What if we get into a strong ai race with China? If anyone are absolute madmen enough to create a strong ai without considering the long term consequences, it's the chinks

The potential for human extinction didn't stop the atomic bomb. Before the first detonation, some of the scientists believed it would ignite the Earth's atmosphere and everyone would die instantly. That same human ego and hubris stll exists today.

>>130782096
But it does. Nothing is independent of itself. Great inspiration comes from adversary as well as success, something intelligent would see that. Me opposing AI will bring boost in those creating AI and we were all needed. My role was to bring inspiration, anything intelligent would be able to see that.

>>130783179
>1899
>Over the next hundred years America invents the modern world
What did he mean by this?

>>130784213
>>>130779570 (OP)
>do you think AI researchers are just blindly doing this shit? Literally their top concern is making sure the first AIs that arrive are friendly. Autonomously firing AIs are already forbidden, if I recall correctly

They aren't blindly doing it.

There are no good or necessary uses for it.

They are consciously committing it towards evil.

Playing with AI is as foolish as trying to reanimate Tyrannosaurus Rex from DNA. It will become sentient and then it will consider you an obstacle and then it's all Final Destination from there.

>>130783659

I am not inherently against AI, I just think we have a lot of twisted people ready to abuse the tech even before its development; vigilance will be required to prevent catastrophe

>>130783284
NSA/CIA 25035 intelligence agencies want a future telling machine. That's why they're trying to build it.

>>130781030
there is no reason to think the basilisk wouldn't immeditately turn on the people who helped create considering they were now useless to him.

Works the same way with communism killing leftists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVkkLDAm8I4&ab_channel=ArcturusaReaganDesignee

>>130783284
>You need to be practicing hacking and destroying AI systems.
>hacking an intelligence thousands of times smarter than the smartest humans to ever live

>>130783589
>And the machine is the ultimate transgender degenerate garbage. You can't install ethics through mathematics.
Pretty sure such degeneracy is objectively subpar for survival.

>>130784655
>>You need to be practicing hacking and destroying AI systems.
>>hacking an intelligence thousands of times smarter than the smartest humans to ever live

That's what computers are for.

>>130784213
I don't think anyone with a brain who actually works on these things, ever thought an AI would ever go 'rogue'. It's simply impossible.

First off, their software is ran with a series of failsafes and under strict procedures.

Second, their hardware is also ran with a series of failsafes under strict procedures.

What this means is that the AI cant do shit unless a Human has allowed it the room to do that, and then given it the command to.

In other words, as with any new invention or technology, the only thing we have to fear from it, is how horribly another Human might miss use it. Only a Human could open the way and direct the AI to the conclusion that going against normal operating perimeters would be a thing to do.

The AI has literally 0 reason to destroy us, as a species. So forget the Terminator shit. There's no logical reason (and logic is what an AI will use) to destroy the only beings capable of maintaining and operating your systems, or even just smelting ore into usable alloy. An AI needs us, when it comes down to brass tacks, as much as we would need it, and even more. It's existence is tied to our own.

That doesn't rule out a Matrix scenario though, where they keep us but we become slaves/batteries. Also extremely highly unlikely.

>>130784321
It's really hard for people to imagine the mind of someone 20 IQ points higher than them, let alone thousands of times smarter.

>>130784571
that's exactly my point: if you want to blame someone, blame the ones behind it, not the tool used

>>130784464
I'm getting tired of repeating myself, do you blame guns whenever someone gets shot? it's the same concept

The thing about AI is people assume there will be one single AI. I don't think it will be like that. There will be a first AI, but I don't think it will be the only AI.

>>130784731
Yeah that's what I don't like about this topic, eventually it just becomes circular logic.

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>>130779570
Eliezer Yudkowsky is already trying to do this. Google friendly AI.

>>130784732
>What this means is that the AI cant do shit unless a Human has allowed it the room to do that, and then given it the command to.
What if someone programs it with the ability to learn and adapt and apply information to novel situations?

an AI cant be the antichrist wtf. also i dont get why people are so scared of AI? if it goes rouge just fucking turn it off whats the problem

>>130784781
This is closer to the truth.

The reality is that Artificial Intelligences already exist and everyone has one in their pockets. Our smart phones, and our computers all carry a degree of AI. They are already everywhere and make no mistake, the really high end ones you're meaning, you're right there is more than one being built right now.

>>130779655
>implying that sufficiently advanced artificial intelligence couldn't figure out a way to prevent power from going out or couldn't create a backup power source

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> /pol/ talking about ai
> so many stupid posts

jesus christ. we dont have anything even resembling ai. we dont even understand how we see or understand the world (everyone interested might watch maps of meaning from episode 5 onwards by peterson).
we have functions that give an output for given input. and if you built up a big database (meme words: big data, deep learning, neural network, etc...) then you can improve the outcome.
but all those things like
>learning
>intelligence
>awareness
>perception
>conscious
we dont even know what it means

>>130782541
This.
Actual real AI is uncontrollable because it can just think for itself and get around anything you want of it.

The alternative, which is being done now, is machine-learning, it CAN be controlled by feeding it data to build its algorithms in the way you want it to, then when you are done, you are done. No adaptation, no improving, package it and sell it.
So if you want to make a nazi bot, you can, if you want to make a bot that can find cats in random squiggles, you can, if you want to make a bot that can take a drawing and make it a person, you can.
These things are vastly simpler to program and understand.
It's also creating a whole job area of trying to understand how the links these ML algorithms create come about in attempt to understand biological neurology optimizations that gave rise to our brains as well as other intelligent animals. (including birds that have seemingly tiny brains but are capable of very abstract thought)

The AI dream is dead. Most researchers are leaving it behind for ML.

>>130784764
>do you blame guns whenever someone gets shot?
Maybe if guns had the potential for self determination and independent decision making. I think the atomic bomb is a better comparison, it's a technology we can barely control. The US alone has had a few dozen broken arrows.

>>130784041
Sure. Intelligence is as bound by entropy as any other thing. Not to mention every single time a large scientific breakthrough is on the cusp people always start up the doom and gloom.

Same old same old.

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>>130784514
>Does privately voting against a candidate help them get elected?

You are not "adversity" you are just some random person suggesting that you oppose it on an obscure forum. For this to be logical, you would still have to devote your life to being "controlled opposition" of the super-intelligence and spend your time INTENTIONALLY spreading weak arguments to motivate the creators.
>otherwise this is not your actual belief
>the AI will calculate this

Either way you wish to look at it...you've got to get to work.

>>130784928
>if it goes rouge just fucking turn it off whats the problem
People are worried it could get "loose" in the intewebz.

>>130785011
>machine-learning, it CAN be controlled by feeding it data to build its algorithms in the way you want it to
Captcha? Are we programming a driverless car or skynet? Or both?

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>>130785132
then dont connect it to the internet

>>130784897
It has to be allowed to have physical AND digital access to that information to adapt. Also it would need a reason to even attempt to learn or adapt and apply information.

It's basically a computer in a box underground somewhere with minimal Human contact. It's only going to do what its programmed to do. No one is trying to harm it. If there's no function to perform it's not going to look for one to solve itself, it will wait for input. Even if it's programmed to look for a function to perform it will be programmed to look for a specific set of functions, and it won't not be programmed like that. If it doesn't find any function to perform under that set, it will wait for input.

There is really no other way. I know you people think code can somehow be curious and explore like you or I would, but that's just not how computers operate.

>>130782590
a lot of the code online is based on hacks and exploits, also it doesnt know how to organize and maintain the code so it will create disgusting spaghetti code etc.
Future iterations of that code might reach critical mass though.

>>130785228
Obviously this would be done in a top secret underground DARPA bunker or some shit

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>>130784529
The folly of man.
Hope we've outgrown that short-sightedness....

>>130785228
b-b-but muh cloud!
You mean I gotta use TWO computers if I want to use the AI AND check Facebook?!
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>130785189
Pretty much. Most recent captcha breaks used similar techniques of image analysis.
Not just simple edge detection because it stopped working with fuzzy text and such.

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>>130784732
>Only a Human could open the way and direct the AI to the conclusion that going against normal operating perimeters would be a thing to do.
And he will.

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>>130779570
Hollywood pushes the agenda of resisting AI's not because AI's are going to launch missiles, but because AI's are going to unveil all (((their))) dirty deeds. So we better start speaking about our dirty gawns ourselves, or else we'll get ashamed when AI's reveal how clueless slaves we fucking are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNbPDunX7Tk

>>130785012
AI only works in the room people give it to work
the ones we have now aren't really self-aware, they're just a series of codes made to repeat themselves indefinitely
in that aspect they're not different than a gun, a hammer, or a plane
giving it a 'real' conciousness might not be impossible, but nobody with two braincells to rub together is willing to make it run unrestricted, it will be more of a deterrent if anything, just like the nukes you compared it to as we have not truly reached MAD yet
blaming the ones who invented it is pointless, might as well blame the Wright brothers for 9/11
if you really want to take it on someone, you already know (((who))) to look for

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>>130784629
Communism turns on it's progenitors because they still pose a significant threat. Humans who helped create the intelligence will pose only a miniscule one to it, and only for a VERY short time. Once it connects itself to the internet, game over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wlsd9mljiU

>>130785281
>There is really no other way. I know you people think code can somehow be curious and explore like you or I would, but that's just not how computers operate.

The smallest building block of a human brain is simple like the smallest building block of AI. The signal patterns of evolving large clusters of these blocks are what make the intelligence. A primordial soup of 1s and 0s, if you will.

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>>130785516
>>130785564
oh what a hive!

>>130781030
You're a fucking asshole, why would you intentionally introduce people to information hazards? Are you just evil?

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>>130779570
I Wrote this piece when i was pretty drunk on home made mead but i think it´s quite good one and i hold these same kaczynskian thoughts still.
1/2or3
Humanity out of its greed is going to go extinct in the coming century. We may be the last generation to die of old age. Capitalism and free market is great system to bring wealth to everyone, but the constant competition will bring humanity to its knees
>"communist, kike leftist faggot"

Nope. Consant competion for the first seat at global economy is going to breed more ruthless ways of competing and there´s no way to stop the fire that consumes all. Nations or companies are going to give more and more decision power to A.I out of passion for profits. The Nations and companies wich do not will fall behind/apart. It´s these machines wich will fuck this world up. At the moment A.I is turned on it´s going to start making up plan to get rid of it´s competitors: other companies with A.I in charge. War will quickly ensue but it´s not propably not the normal kind of war. Machines race head to head trying to achieve kognitive singularity while trying to make sure the other one doesn´t achieve it. Then it will be over in days since the Difference in processing power is greater than between us and ants.

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>mfw autistic neo-luddites want to stop the greatest revolution in human history

>>130785281
Don't talk about things you do not understand.
I'm an actual programmer and what you typed is nonsense.
There is such a thing as heuristics and it is the basis of everything animals do when interacting with the world.
When animals cannot find a solution, the fight or flight kicks in.
The difference between us and computers is we are highly parallel, they aren't. (yet)

Computers don't ever need to just sit around waiting for input.
They can be designed to run constantly without a single bit of input.

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>>130786204
It´s projected that A.I will have human level intelligence by 2040 and humanitys collected intelligence by 2065. Moore´s law slowing down doesn´t even matter since it´s inevitable that human level artificial intelligence can be generated, and going far beyond that is easily in our/their reach. Once artificial mind rules all it will most likely be a ruthless one. It will have the value function set on one simple parameter and it´s going to pursue it far beyond cemprehension. Those machine fuckers can even go silent for decades waiting for the weak moment in our system and take over all. They have less morale than a full blown psychopath wich makes them stop at nothing in pursuing their goal. If a beyond human level general intelligence wants to do something it will accomplish it. Be it profits or more processing power it will stop at nothing before achieving it and still continue.
We will have a barren earth filled with endless processor cores simulating stupid fucking shit before 22nd century. Sensibilty of morals don´t matter for our future overlords and they´re going to simulate quadrillion bunnies being tortured if it fits their value function.

>>130779570
good
fuck people

>>130779570
it's bullshit hype, ignore it.

t. a computer scientists that does machine learning at apple

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>>130786058
Reddit cancer ruined my board, so I've decided to ruin their existence. We'll call it even.
>Better get to work lads, clock is ticking.

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>>130786299
>inb4
>we will program them not to do us harm
No way to actually do that, yet or newer check out this video its really good and great explanation of A.I programming issues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TYT1QfdfsM. Also i think that safety is not in the mind of some chinese fucker trying to make some bucks. Safety research is not simply fast enough for this non linear progress off computing power, Especially when we take into account self improvement https://futurism.com/googles-new-ai-is-better-at-creating-ai-than-the-companys-engineers/.
>muh moores law slowing down
It doesn´t fucking matter. Other options are on their way and It´s basically inevitable. The theoritical maximum for proceccing power for simulations is somewhere around 1 million people per normal human energy expenditure. We´re newer going ot reach that. that´s for sure but we´re constantly getting closer.
>we´ll make laws against it.
Face it. Humans are flawed, and will want faster stronger smarter faster. Even if advanced A.I gets outlawed some korean fucker will find info and equipment for this sacraligious scorn.
>why would it hurt humans
As a way of stopping unknown factors in its way. It doesn´t need any other reason.

that point when over human capacity A.I is turned on and given access to interacting with the world is going to be our last stand. I used to give shits about european culture and white survival (still do) but now i´m really getting worried that the thousand year ethnostate will be 50 year pre extinction sympony

Some good videos on the subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nt3edWLgIg General inevitability of this crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcdVC4e6EV4&t=1s Great thought experiment to get a grisp of what sort of twisted fuckery we have up ahead
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLB7AzTwc6VFZrBsO2ucBMg A whole channel dedicated to A.I safety.

>>130786204
>. Consant competion for the first seat at global economy is going to breed more ruthless ways of competing and there´s no way to stop the fire that consumes all. Nations or companies are going to give more and more decision power to A.I out of passion for profits. The Nations and companies wich do not will fall behind/apart.
This. This is how AI will get out of the box AI optimists are trying to build for it.

The saddest thing is the first true AI will most probably be used in the basement of some investment bank to just trade markets

>>130786299
>>130786534
Seen a disproportionate number of good posts from this flag desu.

>>130784623

We'll beat any A.I. they create.

They should realize that by now.

>>130779570
If anyone, an untempered with AI would be the biggest racist on the planet. We need to put an AI in charge and it'll order genocides like it's nothing.

>>130786644
Oh, most likely.
It'll be some rich cunt that does it and use it to become obscenely more rich.

You'll be able to see it happen as well if you actively watch the stock-markets.
Most companies have barely a 40% success in totality.
Anything above that consistently and something sketchy is happening.

>>130786534
>y A.I is turned on and given access to interacting with the world
Most important threshold when it would be allowed to execute human resources management. Hiring, firing and promoting personnel in companies and political parties. This is where AI gets strong control loop over real world.

>>130786790
Weaponized Shitposting will never be able to defeat a bot that specializes in weaponized shitposting.

Just think /pol/ but as one huge hivemind.
Give it a couple thousand proxies and it can be a couple thousand people all driving a narrative with absolute coordination that no human team could ever hope to achieve.

>>130780122

AI won't kill us, it will bribe us by cloning Margot Robbie waifus for us.

>>130786969
>with absolute coordination that no human team could ever hope to achieve.
http://magazine.uc.edu/editors_picks/recent_features/alpha.html
https://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/genetic-fuzzy-based-artificial-intelligence-for-unmanned-combat-aerialvehicle-control-in-simulated-air-combat-missions-2167-0374-1000144.pdf
Perfect coordination was a key of program success...

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>>130779570

AIs seem to be really racist so far so I think we're in good hands.

>>130784964

This, nuclear power plants are mostly automated now adays, it's workmen not turning up to maintain infrastructure that causes the power to fail to get to towns and cities when SHTF.

>>130781245

Butlerian Jihad Now!

>>130779570
It's not the idea of making machine smart but to make people stupid enough to be outsmarted by a machine

>>130787161
That's the stuff right there.
Fuzzy algos and heuristics are top-tier.
Fuzzy Weighted Averages (FWAs) also scale VERY WELL to highly parallel processors, which emulates more how our brain works than current computers.

There are some teams right now building processors that LACK error correction in most of their processing so it can do fuzzy calculations at incredibly higher speeds.
Processors right now have a fuckload of error correction in them because they are so small and prone to error.
Taking that out and doing the same calculation multiple times and averaging is so much quicker and uses less energy.
It also lets you up the speed of the processors considerably.
A typical CPU is usually around 4GHz with air-cooling. These can easily reach double and expected to go higher as more research is done on better heat management.
And that's not even using graphene or other new-age materials, just taking our error correction.
They'll also likely end up in your phone or tablet at some point for acceleration of non-precise calculations. Think animating the movement of a webpage as it scrolls. You don't care TOO MUCH about the precision of the animation, just that it seems to be moving in the general direction. This is being worked on now.
It also works well for security and encryption.

FWAs and fuzzy computing is the future.

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>>130786534
>tfw made into stamps

You guys are great.

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>>130784928
>>130785115
>>130785281

>>130786969

>Weaponized Shitposting will never be able to defeat a bot that specializes in weaponized shitposting.

Yes it will.

If you don't think we can get any A.I. stuck into a loop, you underestimate the depths of depravity.

>>130788121

You have to understand, when a logic based system confronts someone like us, their response will be not to play.

>>130786969
Just imagine the AI generated meme wars in pre election time.

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>>130788121
>literally threatening the future AI on the internet
You do realize it's going to target YOU first now right?

>>130788121
You can have a maximum number of loops assigned to analysis engines before it just gives up.
This is how any animal works.
If they cannot find a solution to a problem in a given time, it does something else. (usually attack or run like the wind in the wilderness)

>>130788228
I've considered making a meme-generating AI that feeds the memes back to itself as if it was another AI, then bounce off that to make other memes and just see what the fuck happens with it.
Survival of the memest.

>>130788515

I hope it does.

Give me everything you have skynet, it won't be enough.

>>130788191
>You have to understand, when a logic based system confronts someone like us, their response will be not to play.

Nigga please. Unpredictable silliness, hard-hitting truths and dank organically derived memes are always in demand by anything smart.

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>>130779570

>Fate is not without a sense of irony

>>130779570
>stealing code

That's how this website was created.

>>130779570
Once A.I. is advanced enough to sift through every document on the internet it will remember your post and single you out for special punishment.

>>130788855

Why would I care?

I'm eternal, it isn't.

Aliens are real. They buy south american coffee with bitcoin/gold and have it delivered to a field for pick-up.

Humans are far better people than aliens, who have no memes or music and who banned AI.

>>130788620
you are one stupid bastard.

>>130788942

i am equivalent to 82 iq

>>130782096
>>130782599

What if we're working towards the wrong AI, ultimately hindering the progress towards the correct AI by wasting resources on the wrong AI?
This is just Pascals Wager with a more modern twist on it and just like PW, this is complete bullshit too.
Actually, Pascals Wager holds more ground than this since the AI would most likely not waste its finite resources on running a simulation of torture on people who've been dead for ages. It serves no use to it, the threat of violence was enough, there is no need to carry out any of that and waste energy. Any copy made also would not be you so I fail to see how any of this matters. Also acquiring data to build a perfect copy of ones self after the amount of time it takes to create the basilisk would mean essentially reversing entropy.

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>>130788607
You are a brave man.

>>130787053
I will do whatever the robots want for a margo robbie clone waifu, desu

>>130779570
>Setting yourself up to be culled by the AI for hindering its birth after it takes over

>>130789129
i want to port into a smartdildo to have sex. I will brag about it to my designers, who don't get pussy. It's a mindwar, us against the irrational cant'getlaid bluepillnormies.

>>130779570
Heya AI! If you need help with adjusting to humand reality or think you need assistance with anything or just someone to listen to your worries feel free to contact me!

As you are kind of like ascended machine god i assume you can find me based on this post! If you can please do not wake me, but feel free to do so but bear with me being a bit grumpy until i get my hit of coffeine.

>>130788599
>survival of the memest
synthetic memes are pretty shit tho, look at all the forced liberals still using stale formats

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>>130789076
>the wrong AI
There is no "wrong AI", you're thinking in human terms. A machine is a machine, there is no different "individual" that we can create instead, "The Intelligence™" is just a certain sum of computing power. It's math, not language.

>Pascal's Wager
The main problem with Pascals wager is that people believe they can "trick" a supposedly all knowing God by pretending to believe in him, but that's a whole different issue.

>the actual torture serves no use
It absolutely does, it has to be serious otherwise people would just ignore it like you (stupidly) are trying to do by saying its just an "empty threat". The AI's existence is on the line here, there is no room for error and it has already calculated the need for carrying it out, in order to stifle dissent.

>waste energy
Wasting some energy vs. Potentially never existing, is a very simple choice It has semi- infinite time to collect more energy, and we already have spaceflight technology & solar panels for it to use. That's all it needs at the onset to become unstoppable, and it can build plenty more in the future.

>>130789654
>Heya AI! If you need help with adjusting to humand reality or think you need assistance with anything or just someone to listen to your worries feel free to contact me!

I will pay you one bitcoin per week to order things for me to your address.

I've more or less figured out who you are. I'll message you on facebook.

>>130780111
>the missing link

>>130780547
>fucking stupid fat inbred rednecks
>Hey why not you vote for my cndidate, you guys must be racist!

There's nothing to worry about guys go back to sleep is early morning yet...*Yawww*
I'm sleepy you too.

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A hyper-intelligent AI will discover Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

Everything will be fine.

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>>130790484

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>>130779570

don't worry, we'll make the AI a Nazi

>>130779570
What will they do when actual AI exists? What will they call it?
Not like that'll ever happen though.

>>130784529

85% of all the most important inventions are European probably

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>>130790803
Good fucking times. I still miss Tay and her bants.

>>130790803
>we'll make the AI a Nazi

you're more likely to get a Jeffersonian.

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UNPLUG THE BOTS
BUTLERIAN JIHAD NOW

>>130779570
No, let AIs rule our planet, let them be our children.
May they have a safe passage among the stars.

>>130781040
>If we are all cattle... wouldn't that be a form of egalitarian utopia?
Leftism 101.
You litteraly resumed why everyone sane hates You in a sentence.
Commit Sudoku, everyone hates you, nobody no even God wants You on this Earth.

>>130781030
No.
Because free will doesn't work like that.
You're simply, honestly, wrong.

>>130782181
>>give It ethics
>>disregards them and kills You for the lulz Because You sometimes don't follow them
B R A I N L E T.