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Well /pol/, looks like you're BTFO again. Inb4 (((Isenstein)))
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>>130757956

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>Gun related deaths
Into the trash this goes, Professor.
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>>130758681
Not an argument.
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>>130757956
well, that was easy
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>>130757956
Have you ever considered that areas with strict gun control laws have more liberal pussies and less niggers?
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>>130758782
Hold on, keep this bumped, I got a kick ass infographic coming up
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>>130758782
"Gun related deaths" is a propaganda metric. There are a lot of "water related deaths", "hammer related deaths, and "rope related deaths" too. Suicide is a meaningless metric. It stands to reason, guns are a useful tool for the job of suicide and therefore used for suicide where available.
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>>130761731
The most fundamental metric of violent crime and homicide is regional demographics. Regions with the highest number of leftists and non-whites leads to the highest number of violent crimes, irrespective of local prohibitions on self-defense.
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>>130762408
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>>130759105
>>130762591
Guess which regions in the US are usually the safest.
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>>130761114
Well hurry up already
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>>130763126
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>>130757956
I would like to see the homicide and crime rate instead of gun deaths in comparison. Like in england when they did a handgun ban, the Gun death rate dropped but the overall murder and crime rate went up six fold, mostly young thugs using knifes against people who are older and no longer able to defend themselves against someone in their prime.
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>>130763292
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>>130763397
Though last time I brought this up, UK anon couldn't see how fewer gun deaths did not equal fewer overall deaths.
>Which is worse some gun deaths or a lot of knife deaths?
>Gun deaths because they are more dangerous.
https://youtu.be/uH0hikcwjIA
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>>130763397
Violent crime (the whole array of assaults, battery, rape, torture, home intrusions, homicides) heavily corresponds with the order of this list, with the exception of culturally stable, native places like Hawaii. Crime as other maps show, it's heavily regional. IL has most of their crime coming from thug zones like Chicago.
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>>130764104
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>>130761114
I hope you're there, anon. Dropping info to bump for you.
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>>130757956
SHALL
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>>130764612
He's not coming back.
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>>130764809
NOT
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>>130764997
I'll give him ten more minutes.
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>>130757956


We understand that freedom comes at a cost in lives. It always has.
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>>130764612
>>130763140
Hold on, the info I need is not as readily available as I thought
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>>130764146
That's not a murder rate chart
Also with the correct chart homicide and gun deaths seem almost inverse to each other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate
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>>130765252
Tell us what you're looking for. One of us might be able to help.
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>>130765276
Read what I wrote. That link you gave follows with what I said. I was saying the list of highest white population states corresponds to violent crime very closely.
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>>130764612
>handgun supply
Should show what % of people have guns in the house.
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Oh look it's one of these threads again. Gun laws mean jack compared to local conditions and populations.
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>>130765714
The overwhelming majority of homicides aren't committed by typical gun owners. They're committed by gang-banging thugs, many if not most of whom have a predisposition for retardation and psychopathic lack of impulse.

Thugs could have a few or thousands of guns in their home. Typical law-abiding gun owners (almost all non-thugs) could have a few or thousands of guns in their home. We'd probably see nearly the same statistics take place.

So it would be more useful
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>>130766292
There's more but fuck that noise, OP is a faggot.
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>>130766378
>So it would be more useful
Got cut off there, scratch that line.
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>>130765276
>wiki clipped for comparison:
>>130764146
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>>130765434
Basically a racial breakdown of the homocide rate state by state.
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>>130757956
NH is now constitutional carry now and was de facto shall issue since the chief of police had to either issue the permit in two weeks or send a letter explaining why the permit was denied which never happened unless you were legally barred because you could sue for the permit to be issued if it was bullshit.
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>>130757956
(((Isenstein)))
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>>130767382
I said inb4 Schlomo come on
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>>130767422
Just because you say inb4 doesn't make it not Jewish bullshit you know.
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>>130757956

>all those deaths in hick shithole states

good
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>>130757956
Car related deaths are also higher in areas with more cars.
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>>130758782
Actually yes that is an argument, gun related deaths does not give you a complete picture as to whether high gun ownership leads to more homicides overall. Hell even just using homicides isn't quite enough to prove causation. For example, high legal gun ownership in crime infested areas as a means to self defense. Overall while you could have made genuine arguments as to why gun control is good, you used propaganda infographics to create a shitty slide thread.
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>>130765012
BE
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>>130767887
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>>130759105
MD fag here.
Can confirm, many niggers, spics, and gun laws.
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>>130757956
It's plotting suicides, 2/3 of 'gun related' deaths.
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>>130767205
That would be good. These come close to what you want:
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>>130762408

What's really needed is pinpoint-level violent incidents broken down by type, coupled with layers of pinpoint-level demographics (race, age, voting, laws). In other words: info tools the FBI and NSA have access to in real time.
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>>130768094
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>>130757956
>NH
This breaks the pattern you were hoping for.
What do the populations in these areas look like?
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>>130765228
It doesn't though. This chart is plotting suicide rates, not homicide rates.
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>>130767828
INFRINGED.
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>>130758286
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>>130757956
You'd want to look at the data before and after these laws were passed and compare any change to regional and then national trends. When you do, these laws are meaningless.
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his whole study breaks apart if he factors in data from other countries, such as Switzerland or the Czech Republic (which is why he is not doing so).

Just another case of politicized research. Sad, really.
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>>130768187

>Smart family gun safety
>A child with a compact .45

A 9mm carbine would be a much better choice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtkuVzbgD98
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>>130757956
stay pissed fag
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>>130758782
Well neither is your post. It is no surprise there is a positive correlation between accessibility of handguns and gun-related deaths, but this correlation is irrelevant. You really haven't posted anything of value. What you need to post is something like murder and crime rates relative to accessibility of guns.
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>>130768695
That alone wouldn't matter if it isn't measuring the consequences of the worse of evils: long term road to tyranny.

In effect:

You could put the entire population in a labor camps with chain around their ankles, everyone monitored in bubbles and reduce the murder rate to 0%, but it becomes a sick statistic to justify the end.
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>>130757956
Because the lefties love using this non-argument all the time to dismiss points.

CORRELATION IS NOT EQUAL TO CAUSATION, BIGOT
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