Rank the 2016 candidates

>Top Tier

Sanders, Lessig, Webb

>Flawed, but good

Paul, Trump, Carson

>Meh, but not totally evil

Cruz, O' Malley,

>Garbage

Everyone else.

>>130744907
yours is shit

>Yeb!
>everyone else

slow and steady, 2020 is closer than you think.

>>130744907
>>Top Tier
>Sanders
Spotted the pinko

>>130745350
It's another, "Sanders = commie" episode.

>establishment tier, AKA god tier
Clinton > Rubio > Kasich >>>>>> Bush

>why are you even running tier
Webb > Christie > Carson

>crazy tier, AKA shit tier
Cruz > Santorum > Huckabee >>>>>>> Sanders

>literal retard tier
Chafee

>waste of time tier
Everyone else not mentioned.

As a whole this was the best group of candidates I've seen in my lifetime. Sanders for Dems and all of the Republicans were strong.

>>130744907
>>130745535
Name one good thing Sanders has done in Congress for the people he represents.

>>130746046
I don't know, I don't live there.

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>>130744859

>God Tier

Rand Paul

>Good Tier

Ted Cruz, Gary Johnson

>Meh Tier

Trump, Jeb!, Webb, Carson, Perry, Fiorina

>Below Average Tier

Sanders, Rubio, Jindal, Kasich, Pataki, Santorum, Walker, Gilmore

>Bad Tier

Chafee, O' Malley, Lessig, Huckabee. Graham

>Shit Tier

Christie

>Antichrist Tier

Hilldog

>>130746506
Johnson was a lot better in 2012 than he was in 2016.

>God Tier
Rand Paul
>Trump Tier
Trump
>Good Tier
Webb, Cruz, Carson
>Meh Tier
O'Malley, Florina, Jindal
>Shit/Establishment Tier
Sanders, Bush, Rubio, Kasich, Gary Johnson, Evan McMullin, Grahm, Huckabee, Perry, Santorum
>Hillary Tier
Hillary

literally nobody can refute this

>Top tier
Trump, Cruz, Rand

>Good tier
Rubio, Webb, Johnson

>Okay tier
Carson, Sanders (At least hes not evil), Christie, Jindal

>Why are you even running tier
Jeb!, Clinton

>Who? tier
Everyone else

>>130746192
>I have no idea what this guy has done as a politician
>Hes TOP TIER for the presidency
Tell me you're bait.

>>130747440
Rubio is establishment. A pawn of a pawn. Fuck him. Johnson too.

Looking back it will always be Trump just for the memes and lefty frenzy he caused. Even before he I was on the Trump train I loved how much of a shitlord he was.

>>130747573
Once Rubio lost the race he started working with trump. And whats wrong with johnson? besides aleppo

>>130744859
Was expecting Trump vs Sanders.

>>130747483
That's an unfair criterion to judge how good of a President they'd be, especially in this corrupt system. I know the standard line you're going for, that Sanders didn't do much as a representative. It's the same thing they said about Ron Paul, calling him, "Dr. No" in Congress.

If you ask me, that speaks positively of him. It shows his capability as a leader.

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>>130747348

He ran a terrible fucking campaign.

I ended up voting for Trump because I lived in a swing state and Johnson had blown it so badly that I knew the Libertarians weren't going to hit 5%. Fucking Weld as VP nominee was just a disaster, the point where he's on air talking about how much he respected Hillary and basically endorsing her 2 weeks before the election, that was the last straw for me. I hate that duplicitous cunt and I'll be damned if I was going to vote for a 3rd party who's VP was low key campaigning for her.

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>>130744859
>God Tier
Jeb

>Shit tier
Everyone else

>>130744859
Top tier:
Trump, Rand
Tier 2:
Cruz, Carson, Fiorina
Tier 3:
Sanders (only because he was anti-establishment and an honest man)
the rest:
Garbage

>>130744859

Who is that "Sanders" guy? I don't remember him running in the election last year.

>>130748053
>I ended up voting for Trump because I lived in a swing state

Same reason I ended up voting for Trump too. Glad I helped him win PA. Still wanted Sanders far more, though.

Agreed with everything else you said. Weld saying that he respected Hillary was the dealbreaker for me. What a stupid thing to say.

>>130748270
well no, put johnson on tier 2 along with Stein

>>130744859

Hillary Clinton
>Loser

Donald Trump
>Winner

Amidoinitrite?

>>130748270
Sanders honest? He's a fucking kike.

>S
Sanders
Lessig
Trump
>A
Paul
Webb
Johnson
>B
Carson
O'Malley
McMullin
>C
Kasich
Pataki
Gilmore
Stein
Jeb!
>D
Graham
Jindal
Chafee
Christie
>E
Rubio
Fiorina
Walker
>F
Santorum
Huckabee
Cruz
Perry
Clinton

This is the objectively correct tier list.

in retrospect I wish rand won. he might have actually followed through on anti-neocon shit

If Rato wasn't so ugly he probably would've had a chance of winning the primaries and then picking up some of Trump's hype to have a chance at the election

>>130744907
Good ratings, I don't know anything about Lessig and I'd probably drop Sanders and Carson one tier each but other than that I agree.

Honestly at this point I'd rather Jim Webb be president than con-man Trump.

Rand is the hero we need but don't deserve. He is too pure for his own good. He just had no chance against Trump who is way more charismatic than him. I atleast hope he can make a change in his current position and maybe one day become president.

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Jeb! had a hard life. He didn't deserve what happened to him. Trump should have made him Secretary of Energy or put him on the Supreme Court or something.

>>130748883
Loved Webb's answer on guns in the first debate. He was totally shafted by the Democrat elite.

>Top Tier
Jim Webb
Zoltan Istvan

>Good Tier
Donald Trump (campaign)
Bernie Sanders (before endorsing Hillary)
Jill Stein
Gary Johnson
Rand Paul

>Not Terrible
Donald Trump (presidency)
Ben Carson
Ted Cruz
Mike Huckabee
Scott Walker

>Slime
Marco Rubio
Rick Santorum
Chris Christie
Rick Perry

>Scum of the Earth
Jeb Bush
Carly Fiorina
Lindsey Graham
Hillary Clinton

>>130748861
Its not the fact hes ugly, its the fact that he didn't have the ability to hype up the crowds like trump didn't. Try listening to Cruz talk for an hour and you will fall asleep, trump manages to entertain and energize people.

wheres yeb

>>130749280
also, Gabbard 2020

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>>130744859
biggest fuck loser in the history of politics

>>130749280
Trump's presidency should be lower, Carson and Jeb! should be higher. Otherwise solid 8/10 list

>>130748004
>Being a Literally who and doing nothing in congress shows someone is a capable leader
People like Ron because he was vocal and consistent and didn't vote based on party lines. Bernie Sanders is a name no one had heard of before this election, and ended up supporting the woman who literally cheated to steal the primary from him. Great leadership skills eh?

>>130748270
>an honest man)

>>130749528
Jeb's policies were the bottom of the barrel. He's just so pathetic that I have a hard time actually hating him.

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>all these faggots thinking highly of Bernie
Sure, electing a senile old commie who'd have tried to turn a system wholly different from Europe into a Swedish styled socialist system over night would have gone fucking great, right?

>>130749440

>female
>democrat

No, I'll pass. Only thing worse would be if she were a kike.

>>130749970
Muh fifteen dolla mineemum wage tho

>Clinton

Biggest loser in the history of loserdom

>Chafee

Literally who and why

>Lessig

Respect his intelligence and ideals but too geeky, had 0 chance of winning

>Sanders

Would've won

>Webb

Might have also won but said win would be worth next to nothing

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>>130744859
>Lessig
Literally who?

>>130749655
Sanders still ended up getting more votes than Ron Paul, so I'd argue more people now know about Sanders than they do about Paul. Both got shafted hard by the Fed media, but my point is that if you're a good, honest man who genuinely wants to help people, you're not going to be the most productive politician in the country. If you're a piece of shit who does what his donors want, you're going to be known as a practical politician who gets shit done (just nothing good done).

You're right about endorsing Hillary, though. Looking back, it might help him with the moronic Democrat establishment base, but I wish he never did that.

>>130750089
>democrat
She's a progressive, not a democrat. She is also the most politically incorrect politician in a country, how she was even allowed into the democratic party is beyond me. Gabbard has consistently criticized Bush, Obama, Hillary, and Trump whenever they do the same shit in the Middle East, and she's the only politician in congress who is openly demanding the US cuts its funding of ISIS.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/06/13/tulsi-gabbard-introduces-stop-arming-terrorists-act/

>>130750198
People don't understand that Bernie had no choice but to endorse Shillary if he wanted progressivism to still exist. It would literally be impossible to start a new party in first-past the post, the only viable option is to agree to work from inside the party, similar to what the Tea Party did

>>130744859
>best tier

Rand Paul, Jim Webb

>shit tier

Everyone else

>what the fuck are you even doing here

Ex Goldwater bimbo that married a rapist so she's famous too

>>130750141
Don't forget about muh affirmative action. How will poor lil Tyromalicious-Dequan get into college without big gubmint helping him in?

>all this (((bernie))) support.
I guess these are all the r/the_donald transplants who need to fucking go back. The ONLY thing good about sandersberg is that he was anti-war. He is still a literal communist KIKE and he would've been absolutely disastrous.

>h-he would've won against Drumpf!
lel, no. This is literally just a manifestation of the Bargaining Stage. If Trump went toe to toe against that senile commie jew, he would've torn the kike limb from limb.

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>>130744907
>uncle boyknee is top tier
Holy fucking shit, obliterate your bloodline immediately

>>130750486
>The ONLY thing good about sandersberg is that he was anti-war
That pulls him into the 99th percentile. American politics are just that grim.

>>130748053
Why do you lolberts care so much about that 5%? Need your gibs?

>>130746506
There is nothing Good about Johnson. He is a statist in sheep's clothing, saw nothing wrong with unlimited illegal immigration and his running mate was a gun grabber.

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>>130750470
You mean black people will actually have to have agency and work hard in life like the rest of the world? That's bigoted.

>>130750436
I'll say this. If he runs again in 2020, then it might be a good move, politically. Clinton is the worst of the worst, right up there with the criminal Bush family.

>>130750776
Bernie was already senile in 2016. He'd be like 78 years old or so the next time around.

>>130750661
>work
You mean stolen surplus labour and shit? Hell naaah. Work is literally rape and theft mane. Da man is keepin me down, brotha. The collective gotta pay for me.

>>130750623
>"lol why do you guys care about hitting 5%, we don't need federal funds anyways"
Thank god libertarians think like this, otherwise they'd actually win elections.
>>130750776
I think he'll be too old, but hopefully someone who isn't a neoliberal shill takes his place

>>130750198
Votes are irrelevant after the election. The primary concern should be how well they can maneuver within Washington to accomplish their agenda. Sanders has spent the last three decades renaming post offices in an obscure state.

You only have to go back to 2008 to see how quickly an unseasoned politician can have his agenda hijacked by the establishment if they can't maneuver within Washington. The same is happening to Trump to a smaller degree right now.

>>130750153

>Trump

Gotta hand it to him for winning while being outspent and having the entire media against him

>Bush

An embarassment

>Carson

Proof you can be a literal brain surgeon and still be completely retarded about most other things

>Christie, Cruz

Im disgusted by them, both should be shot desu

>Fiorina

Affirmative action candidate

>Gilmore, Pataki

Literally who

>Graham

Should fight his own goddamn wars if hes that eager to start them

>Huckabee, Santorum, Perry

Just give it up already

>Jindal, Walker, Rubio

All media hype and no real political skill

>Kasich

This is what passes for a "moderate" Republican in 2017

>Paul

Admire the idealism but dead wrong about most things

>>130750895
At the moment he has more energy and coherence than Trump. Trump is deteriorating so fast physically.

>>130750617
this

There's only like a handful of politicians in this country that genuinely give a shit about America and its people. It's not a good situation to have the luxury of being ideologically pure.

>>130746046
Nothing, which is why you'd really think conservaniggers would love him.

>god tier
Trump, Rand Paul

>good tier
Ted Cruz, Sleepy Doc Carson

>mediocre tier
Gary Johnson

>pretty bad tier but not entirely awful
Fiorina

>shit tier
Democrats, remaining third parties and rest of the Republicans

>too depressing to even make fun of anymore tier
Jeb, Sanders

>>130750906
The worst offense about affirmative action is the fact it does not take into account the individual. If you're a rich black man you can get into college far easier than your white peers and then you get to whine about being oppressed all day.

>>130745834
>>establishment tier, AKA god tier
You've already lost.

>>130746046
He got community health centers and a waiver from Obamasurance for his own state. Also Senators represent states, not people, in the classical American pantheon. It's small ball, but grandstanders aren't actually good for the people.

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>>130751029
I don't see Trump deteriorating at all. Sanders is hardly energetic, I haven't heard that cunt on TV once since he endorsed Hillary.

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>>130748270
>Sanders
>Anti-establishment

>>130750930
>don't tread on me
>gib money to campaign through your taxes, if not I tread on you

Just what we need, another inconsistent, shit-tier party to line up for and put a check next to their name.

>>130744859

I thought in late 2015 that O'Malley couldve gotten the nomination. Still suprised he wasnt picked for VP. Tim Kaine was such a shit choice, I hate that motherfucker.

I wish Rand Paul was President, I would spill my guts for most anything that guy fights for.

Still cannot for the life of me see why Kasich ever was someone who finished third in primary polling. I mean, what a un-charismatic loser.

Cruz is a watered-down version of Rand, mixed with some contradictory policies.

>>130750959
If you're anti-Fed, it doesn't matter. They'll put a bullet in your head before you come close to doing anything that would actually change things. Trump is cozying up to the establishment right now for this reason. He might do a little good here and there, a little TPP-axing here and there, but that's it. Gotta keep a short leash.

>>130747362
Quite honestly good list anon

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>>130744859

>Hero We Deserved Tier

Jeb!

>Competent and Sound Policy Tier

Kasich, Webb

>Possibly Not Absolute Garbage Tier

O'Malley, Cruz

>Emails Tier

Hilldog

>Meme Tier

Sanders, Trump

>>130751245
What? Bueraucracy doesn't work on a single case basis and is inefficient? Now you're making things up. I mean, all these people in the government can't be wrong about it, now can they? They get so much money, they have to be working hard for that. It isn't like government workers are overpayed as fuck with our tax money for sitting on their asses all day.

>>130748270
>Bernie "no refunds" Sanders
>Bernie "thanks for the new car, Reddit" Sanders
>honest man
Not that I feel any pity for the morons giving him money, but he's a sleezy kike nontheless.

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>>130744859
Rand Paul was the best choice but Trump is a hell of a lot better then most of the Neocons on that list

>>130750198
>but my point is that if you're a good, honest man who genuinely wants to help people, you're not going to be the most productive politician in the country.
I disagree. The man who represents my district, was once the chairman of the government oversight committee, and has introduced and passed numerous bills that have helped the people he represents. You can tell hes doing a good job, the jews even tried to blow up his office once. Hes not a big name like McCain or Gowdey, but hes done his job well.

>>130750436
>Bernie had no choice but to endorse Shillary if he wanted progressivism to still exist.
think of the mental gymnastics you have to do to reach this conclusion. Betray your entire voter base and support the exact person you were campaigning to stop. "Progressivism" would have continued to exist no matter what he did.

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>>130744907
>sanders

I know who you are behind that flag

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>>130752713
Agreed, Rand Paul was the best choice for actual governing this country.

Trump was obviously the most viable choice and has been the best for increasing the efficiency of our country's space program. Think of how many sides he has launched into orbit.

>>130752830

>>130744907
>top tier all democrats

fuck off canada/commie/eurofag

>>130744859
Webb was unironically the best candidate, and I say that as someone who has voted republican every election since I was 18.

Sanders/Omalley/Clinton were the bottom 3, in that order.

Best R was Scott Walker, followed by Rubio, I try to vote based on actions in office, not rhetoric. Trump Was R #3 for me, the rest outside of Paul and cruz sucked ass.

>>130745535
sanders literally lived in a soviet commune and praised breadlines.

>>130746506
gary johnson sucks ass, and I say that as a rep voter who leans way more libertarian over neocon.

>>130750617
no he doesn;t, hes a commie that praised breadlines, all he wants to do is use the state to dig into my pockets, fuck him, and fuck him appealling to a bunch of lazy college burnouts.

>>130748631
Who the fuck starts the alphabet with S

>>130744859
the objective list is clearly this:
1 Rand
2 Cruz
3 Webb
4 Trump
5 Rubio
6 Walker
7 Perry
8 Carson
9 Fiorina
10 Jindal
11 Huckabee
12 Jeb!
13 Kasich
14 Gilmore
15 Pataki
16 Santorum
17 Christie
18 Graham
19 Chafee
20 O'Malley
21 Lessig
22 Sanders
23 Hillary

We had a pretty shit lineup after the first two. Too bad we couldn't have at least had someone like Newt or even Herman Cain to balance out Khristie Kream.

>>130744859
>R candidates more diverse than dems
What did they mean by this?

>>130750370
>she's the only politician in congress who is openly demanding the US cuts its funding of ISIS.

the entire freedom caucus would like to have a word with you

>>130750466
I can get behind this list

>>130754911
Real Texans hate that god damn commie jew fuck. Check his sports cars and vacation homes. That kike is a fraud fuck.

>>130744859
1. Webb
2. Trump
3. Randlet
4. Perry
5. Cruz

Here is my full list
1 Webb
2 Walker


a big fucking gap


3 Rubio
4 Trump
5 Rand
6 Cruz


the grand fucking canyon
7 Carson
8 Huckabee
9 Perry
10 Jeb
11 Fiorinia
12 Jindal
13 Krispy Kreme
14 Gilmore
15 Pataki
16 Santorum
17 Golly Gee
18 Graham
19 Chafee
20 O'Malley
21 Lessig
22 Hillary
the distance between the earth and the moon
23 Sanders

>>130744859
Webb
Trump
Cruz
Paul
>power gap
Sanders
>power gap
everyone else
>power gap
>hell
Hillary Clinton

>>130744859
Jim Webb was Secretary of the Navy that said women shouldn't serve. He also stood up to Regean on expanding the navy because Reagan wanted a quantiyy of ships and Webb wanted quality. Reagan took ships that were mothballed to reach his shipgoal and fired Webb.

Webb is a warrior of principle and vision.

>>130745834
fuck off tranny faggot

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>>130745834
>establishment tier, AKA god tier
Opinion discarded.

>>130755141
Probably some nigger from Alabama.

>>130755264
Webb is number 1 IMO

>all these webb fans
am I becoming too /pol/?? I thought I just read this shit for fun. Outside of "can't ebb the webb" I didn't see much support for him, but he compleltey won me over in the dem debate, then I looked him up and loved the shit out of him.
Thank god pol hated my number 2, Scott "union buster" walker.

>>130756819
he's the best dem by a million miles and I actually could've considered voting for him, but he's definitely not better than Rand