I'm starting to become so extremely red pilled on religion

I stopped believing in Christianity after high school but now more than ever realize how important god is to the fabric of society

>Even though I'm agnostic and don't see the scientific proof of a god I see the psychological reason to believe in a God. I feel like in a way we know subconsciously there is no God but we make ourselves believe there is a form of a God. It's like a motivation.

If only i had the ignorance to be able to choose what i believe.
Also are you one of those agnostic idiots who doesnt have the balls to say he is an atheist when its painfully obvious?
agnosticism is pretty damn irrelevant when its basically impossible to not be an agnostic.

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>>130733680
Stop using liberal atheistic Wikipedia.

>>130734431
No I mean when I'm going through hard times I pray to God hoping it'll do something I believe maybe just maybe there is a God and it's better to safe than sorry.

But at the same time there's not really any scientific proof within our understanding yet of a God.

But it may still be possible the God is outside our understanding of science and the universe.

And I do believe if there is a God it is different that our ideas of it resembling a man(human).

>>130734630
?

What's that?

>>130733080
Pagan > Atheist > Buddhism >> Hinduism >>>>>> (((Christianity))) = (((Islam))) = (((Judaism)))

>>130733080
>And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned.
well better late than never, and atheist or not you kinda shoulda known the bible was a big book of metaphors for life :P

>>130734903
>believing in a lot of oogabooga is better than not believing in oogabooga is better than believing in yellow oogabooga is better than believing in poo outside of loo oogabooga is better than believing in varying (((oogabooga)))

>>130734903
*the smell of doritos and mountain dew intensifies*

>>130734840
Are you really saying that when it gets hard you stop trying and see if a prayer would do it?

Its time for you to man up and stop hoping for santa to bring you presents.

>>130733080
>>130733680
Fuck off godless civic nationalist kikes. Youre worse than fucking jews. Youre the cucks who ruined Christianity by giving us Catholic bullshit.

>>130735428
>""""white supremacist""""
>against white religion
wew lad

>>130733080
We don't need fairytales about omnipotent creators to reinforce these morals and motivate society to strive for good.
There are more concrete belief systems that can accomplish the same, maybe even better
and without the problem of "Why has God abandoned us?"
>>130735523
What ruined Christianity was civilizations advancing beyond its applicability.

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>>130733080
>>130733080
>And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned.
Your mind wasn't blown.

It's called brainwashing

>don't see the scientific proof of a god I see the psychological reason to believe in a God.

Brainwashing

The Bible was written so anyone can read it. It is simple to read but can also be complex. You have to remember, most people during the writings of the bible could not read. It was intended to be this way.

When I say complex - it is because it can be interpreted in many ways. Jordan Peterson interprets in his way while Stephen Meyer does in a different way. It really is an amazing book.

Christians are very diverse in thought. Even to this day, Christians are still debating about Science and the interpretations of the Bible. What other book can bring so many different views. There are also scrolls, tablets and other lost religious artifacts missing that can change the views on the bible.

Secular Leftist and Media have done a wonderful job in creating stereotypes on Christians. I can go on and on about the garbage they spew just to make Right Wingers or Christians in a negative light.

The big one is - the 6000 year old narrative and a physical god in the sky with a wand. They create stereotypes that all Christians think the same and push it to the masses and the young. No where in the Bible states an age of the Earth. Many people misinterpret the Bible and Christians. It is designed by the militant atheist who control academia and media. Also Young Earth Scientist do wonderful work in Biology, Chemistry and Medicine. They are not at all what you believe.

Not all Christians believe in Young Earth Creationism. Many believe in Theistic Evolution, Old Earth Creationism, Old Earth/Young Human, etc.. there is alot of diverse thought in the existence of a God. Some see Jesus as a buddhist type figure and consider themselves a Christian because of his teachings and who he is but dont believe in a Divine being.

There is no war against science from people of faith. Many of the top Scientist in the world are Christians.

I can go on and on about the misinformation about Christians. Good luck on your search. Check out Ratio Christi Twitter Timeline.

>>130733080
>having to get fed someone elses view on religion to find it yourself

you are literally a cuck

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>>130734903
>Pagan > Atheist > Buddhism >> Hinduism >>>>>> (((Christianity))) = (((Islam))) = (((Judaism)))
this

>>130733080
we need eugenics to make people smart enough to not need a book for this shit. it causes too many other problems.

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>>130736818
>The Bible was written so anyone can read it

Written for slaves to be brainwashed. It wasn't even written. It was a bunch of sermons of Jews brainwashing people

God you're fucking pathetic.

>There is no war against science from people of faith.
They deny nature and race.

>>130735436
Better than nothing sometimes. I don't ask for much so every once and a while is good.

>>130735436
Everything else I work hard for. Not a retarded socialist.

>>130736741

Wow, it's like this image doesn't fucking understand the idea of faith.

Atheists are retarded.

>>130733680
The brothers karmisov is a huge redpill

Jordan talks about it - it basically cemented my conviction that man needs God or we are lost

>>130737203
get b& son

>>130737286
i really dont get what you mean.
What is good every once in a while? Lying to yourself?

>>130736741
Lol okay bud. Educating yourself is now brainwashing.

>>130733080
>When I was 12 I used to be a neckbeard atheist who believed all christians were dumb and the Bible was stupid and useless.
And now youre a fag cultist from reddit that failed at making a micronation based around worshiping a meme frog.

>>130733080
Same.
Raised catholic, but never really got it

Reading E. Michael Jones work has made me seriously reconsider my catholic faith

>>130734903
>>130736903
>the religion that died the fastest is the best
apparently not.

>Indian bullshit is good
please relocate to India.

Jews created atheism btw.

>>130737136
You would have to change basic human nature. That's almost impossible. Would take thousands of years.

>>130737381
>Not a retarded socialist.
You know those times you need help and ask that all-powerful deity which you don't know exists? Socialism is that, exist you ask the members of your race, your community, your society. Who you know exists. Who should want to help you.

>>130737741
Reconsider in the sense that I feel much closer to it

>>130733080

Look at it this way: we evolved to believe in God. We're the only animals on the planet that can do this.

Belief in God is symbolic of being an intelligent creature. There's a purpose to it.

Lesser animals can't conceptualize God.

>>130737563
How am I lying to myself? As I said I'm agnostic. It's just calling out hoping there is a god.

>>130733080
Moving towards God as a psychological reality rather than a magical or metaphysical one is intelligent. However I think Peterson is wrong that the psychology of Christianity is anything good. Both Nietzsche and Jung, who Peterson loves to talk about, saw the psychology of the Christian God as lowly.

Check out Answers to Job and the Antichrist if you want to see what actually strong thinkers had to say about the religion. Peterson best ideas are just repeats of these two great thinkers and his own original ideas are weak and seem to suggest he couldn't comprehend his master's teachings.

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so guise i just so became a cristian sometime ago

this is not tottaly not spam from a shitty confidence scam cult that props up abusive women this is so much some of the real deal

(other ones are the scam this 1 is da real)

>>130737741
E. Michael Jones

woah, this is the rare breed of /pol/ user who actually dares to get redpilled, not just swallow stormfront and RT news as fact.

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>>130737700

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>>130737836
What else did they create?

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>All these people who want to believe in a sky wizard so hard they have to do mental gymnastics to make it work.

"GET GUD" -Jordarn Peterson

"Clean ROOMS" -Jordarn Peterson


I LOVE YOPU JORDAYN PETTERSON!!!!!!

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>>130737836

Jews created Christianity. Atheism isn't even a thing, it's just common sense.

>Aryans are still in India
Fuck off Jew

>Paganism died out
Paganism became Science and is Philosophy. It literally build civilization. Christian Monarchy died out in Russia because Communism used Christianity's brainwashing techniques and murder and cultural destruction. Now Islam will do it to your gay pedo religion

>>130737856
Btw the prayer was to get a girl to respond to me. And help me talking to her since I'm very bad socially and horrible at small talk. Tried asking friends all just dicks and didn't help.

So that was the only way.

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>>130733080
Y-you had beard at 12?

Friendly reminder that without Catholicism Europe would have been overrun by Muslims. Therefore Western culture owes EVERYTHING to the Church. No Pagan religion could have swept away that infestation nor any Protestant church. There's one thing that has kept our walled garden from being overrun by chaos and that is God.

Spit on your forefathers graves at your own peril.

>>130733080
>when I was 12
>but over the past year
/pol/ is no place for a 13 year old.

>>130736741
Is it getting euphoric in here ?

I honestly don't believe in religion that much but I see it as a system that was implemented to prevent what is currently happening in the world
So yeah basically follow the rules of the bible and you will live in a civilized land

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>>130738292
>What else did they create?
Christianity

>>130735428
plz don't say thursday when you don't worship thor

>>130738181
Dawg, I am not the human I was

Shits cash but also I can't sleep sometimes...

>>130738292
>libertarians didn't exist until 20th century
Very blue pilled outlook, Mr. Anglin
time to crack open a history book, of course you won't because all books are just the Jews.
Only the un-sourced and generally baseless information you circlejerk is the truth!

take a page out the other anon's book and start with E. Michael Jones. From there you can branch out.

>>130738081
>As I said I'm agnostic
and i said being agnostic is super irrelevant, please stop using the word all together, it just makes you look like a dick.

So what i was talking about was, why not just try to cast a magic spell that can fix your problems? or maybe get bitten by a radioactive spider and get superpowers, or maybe use a cheat code to get out of the matrix?
You do see where im going with this, right?

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>>130738500
maybe it's all the child molestation in your cults?

this is all great op and i agree

but since god lives and in the hearts of the faithful i recommend allah

since those guys are serious about it

all history is flux

and it's gonna be the winning team

and it's the same god

only muslims have the raw power of faith these days

my take on it is we in britain should just monty python them and start referring to god as allah and acknowleding the truth of the religion, whilst not allowing any of the backwards part of their culture into our spheres of influence

tl;dr : praise satan rock n roll 96

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>>130738484
A lot of things almost happened that might've collapsed Western culture. A lot of different things stopped them from happening.
Are all of those things our "forefathers"?
Not an argument.

>>130738417
Yes and John F. Kennedy said "BUILD SPACESHIPS!"

And trump said "MURICA GREAT!"

And Thomas Jefferson said "UK BAD!"

E Michael Jones is the most redpilled I have ever heard. Even edges out Jordan Peterson.

>>130738457
No. Neckbeard metaphorically.

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>>130738691
>Ayn Rand didn't exist in the 20th century

Fucking Christians on /pol/ all have shitskin IQs

>>130738933
Wew... cuz I'm 23 and mines just started.

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>>130738500

>>130739038
MOOOOOODS

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>>130738840
>space ships
>Nationalism vs Monarchy

>cleans his room
>nb4 too deep for you

>>130736741
What you believe in is ultimately a choice you make

>>130738691
>He can't defend his ideology in one-on-one conversation
>All he can do is tell the doubter to read a book
You are most definitely a certified Christcuck.

>>130733080
"
And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned. I never thought of it that way."
The problem with the bible was never that it is stupid or useless, the problem is that it's dogma. And now, you've realized the value of philosophy but you are so degenerate you can only interpret it through the lens of Jewish myths - because you've been trained to do so, and so has Jordan Peterson.

What the fuck does the existence of god have to do with the bible, any more than it has to do with the Iliad or the Gita? The one thing is a philosophical question, the other thing is mythology.

If the bible is a book of metaphorical stories (we call those myths btw) then it's not an authority on the creator is it? Congrats, tip your fedora, you've just come full circle back to your atheism except now you're not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. You do realize that characterizing it as a big book of metaphors is the same thing as debunking it, right?

>>130739090
Ni hao

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>>130739038
>I'm 16
Was nice talking with ya m8

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>>130733080
>All Christians Are Cucks
http://archive.is/X8Tqk

>All Christians are Cucks #2
http://archive.is/iFGqR

>All Christians are Cucks #3
http://archive.is/J3Y6Z

>All Christians are Cucks #4
http://archive.is/pBMGf

>Cucktianity: What Is A Covenant
http://archive.is/Fdsxo

>Cuck Identity
http://archive.is/qQPMf

>Cuck Identity #2
http://archive.is/ICpaJ

>Indoctrination
http://archive.is/RgZOY

. They actively fund and even run many of the boats coming from Africa to Europe.

http://www.savethechildren.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=8rKLIXMGIpI4E&b=9357115&ct=14921495

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-boat-rescue-charities-medicins-sans-frontieres-save-the-children-mediterranean-sea-migrants-a7699571.html

https://www.savethechildren.net/article/save-children-brings-300-refugees-and-migrants-safety-search-and-rescue-capacity

The government pays Christian organizations to help them settle here.

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/refugee-resettlement-fact-sheets/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEqjF-7pdGM

>>130739433
Yes. I just said that. The book is false it shouldn't even be seen as something true. I'm not debunking it's usefulness though. It is useful as I just said.

>>130739747
Cya bud.

>>130733080
A nihilist will tell you that the universe doesn't care about you, and there is no objective value to anything, it's all subjective and in your head and doesn't matter because god isn't real and the universe doesn't place value on anything by itself.
I will tell you that the universe doesn't start and stop at the borders of yourself, that the universe (and God as perceived by the Holy Spirit in the trinity of Christian theology) encompasses everything, and because you innately care for yourself, your value is not subjective, it IS objective because you are part of the universe and supreme entity. And the value of an event or an object is equal to the sum value of all values that things within the universe give it. And beyond that even, into areas we can't comprehend of course.
This basic primitive interpretation is core to the theology. When you think of Kings in ancient times with this philosophy in mind, it's easy to percieve them as "chosen by God" due to their innate importance to so many people.
It's as Peterson says, the primitive humans were not stupid. They understood the nature of the universe as well as we do, maybe better given the importance they gave it, they just didn't understand the sciences as well as us.

>>130733080

>psychological reason to believe in a God

Mate, historically, religion has one main function.

>Obey this guy, you little goy, pay taxes to him and die for him and don't bitch about him because he is appointed by God himself and is approved by church.

That's all, all the rest are derivatives of that idea.
That's how MOST religions, not counting hedonistic cults, operate.

I'm ok with concept of God, but for God's sake, stop listening to every faggot who claims that he is a mediator between you and God. First thing, he isn't Second thing, he needs your posessions, your money and your fucking life, which all will not go for "god", but rather go into the money of him or church.

As with those who preach most about freeduhms and "slavery", when you hear someone bitching about "god's will", first and foremost, check your wallet and hold tight to it. Because appeal to morality/virtue/"intelligence"/Freedom is the first thing every con artist knows.

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>>130739346
>What you believe in is ultimately a choice you make
It shouldn't be. I know you're right to a degree but it shouldn't be a choice that you believe leaving your infant child underwater for 5 minutes to clean him is NOT a bad thing.

Belief should be forced by natural observation, not people threatening you will go to an evil imaginative underworld where a demon monster will burn you and torture you with regret. That's fucking brainwashing and it's WRONG to do to people!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>>130738704
>Finland
Of course you don't believe in God, Asians don't have souls.

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>>130733080

White men ALWAYS take something and apply the WORST aspects of it to their lives because of their racially innate cuckoldry. In the case of Christianity white men become fat, meek, weak, pathetic, and unable to think for themselves, and prone to """muh empathy!""" and as a result, we have wasted away for 2000 years.

Christianity must be replaced. Whatever replaces it must have no ambiguity. It must promote the strongest, they must breed with multiple women, and the weak white men need to be culled. Period.

Pic related: Christian male and his """great""" ideas in action. And this video is literally an """alpha""" Christian male. It's 2 minutes long. Watch it and learn...Please comment on that video. It's time to start beta-shaming pathetic white males.

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>>130733080
That reddit spacing...

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>>130740212
>A nihilist will tell you
Nihilism is the result of Christianity being a lie.

Lies leave people empty.

The cure of Nihilism is becoming a higher man. The Overman. Even a Stoic. But not lying again!

>>130740598
West mongolia is best mongolia.

Now go troll someone who doesnt expect it.

>>130740737
where's the video?

>>130740212
What kinda stuff will people who aren't nihilists or Christians tell him?

>They understood the nature of the universe as well as we do, maybe better given the importance they gave it
What importance was that?
I don't reckon living truer to their nature means they understood it.

>>130739833

This. over 10,000 churches in American across ALL denominations, since 1965 have actively imported brown and black filth into America. They are the religion of white genocide.

You stupid fucks.

>>130738808
European countries have repeatedly engaged in total war on one another and they've always arose from destruction back into habitable order.

A Muslim dominated Europe would never have emerged from that chaos. In fact, no Muslim country ever has. Look at how tribal sects keep those countries at each other's throats. Western culture is at its foundation Christian culture because without Christianity the West wouldn't exist as a single, identifiable entity in the first place.

>>130733080
>Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned
>couldn't figure this out on his own
>kekistani
underage b&

>>130740331
>when you hear someone bitching about "god's will", first and foremost, check your wallet and hold tight to it
When's the last time a preacher tried to steal your wallet?

I don't know about you, but I've only been accosted in the degenerate materialist cities. Not by some Jerry Falwell type in white America.

>>130740554
Natural observation shows us that a society based on christian values goes to far greater lengths than a society based on islamic values. Or than an atheistic society (aka communism)

>>130741030

fuck me. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8P1oGF2nnA

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>>130740888
It's Pagan, is what it is

>>130733080
you are the equivalent of a reddit atheist fedoralord worshipping richard dawkins.
obnoxious, milquetoast, sycophantic wastes of space idolizing a public intellectual whose ideas are by no means original or even profound, things you would have known had you bothered to edcuate yourself.

>When I was 12
You could have just said 'last year'.

>>130739433
and yet another imbecile armchair theologist shows up

>>130733080
>When I was 12 I used to be a neckbeard atheist who believed all christians were dumb and the Bible was stupid and useless. And just a book full of fake stories and hateful comments.
>But over the past year it's like my mind has exploded I see so much more now its amazing.

So basically, you became retarded.

>And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned. I never thought of it that way.

Then you're just a fucking idiot. Plenty of atheists see it as a book of myths with life lessons. Christians get butthurt as fuck when you point this out. They don't just see it as "The story of jesus and pals ;D", they think it's real.

No, it's not useful to pretend that jesus and pals and magic is real. So fucking sick of hearing this.

>And the more and more I listen to him and the more time goes on I become a little more christian realizing that humans need religion.

We do not.

>Because we need to look up to someone and be slaves to them, as Jordan Peterson said we can't be slaves to ourselves we don't have the willpower.

So basically his argument is that everyone is a nigger that can't help themselves, which is liberal logic for excusing nigger criminal behavior. Nice work. Go ahead and believe in your sky dad, dumb faggot.

>>130740554
> people threatening you

That's exactly what Peterson is not doing

>>130741120
You have to give credit to Peterson, he's getting rich off of his anti-SJW faux-Christianity gig.

>>130734900
Conservapedia is a hilarious poorly written pack of lies from delusional partisans who can't accept reality. It's basically what wikipedia would be in North Korea if it was run by the right wing.

>>130733080

One more thing...About OP's picture...No beta white Christian male has so much as touched Cortney Tailor or ever been inside her. That is what your pathetic religion has done to you. It's made you a weak failure and white women are disgusted by you.

I guarantee she has been penetrated by DOZENS of black and brown men though. She's going to bear mulatto children and it's your stupid decisions and your stupid religion's fault.

>>130741120
Pretty much lol.

>>130741103
Shuffling around the phrasing of what you said and adding unrelated info doesn't transform it into an argument, mate.

>European countries have repeatedly engaged in total war on one another and they've always arose from destruction back into habitable order.
We improved. Wars of conquest cull the weak.

fun game, whenever the bible uses "god" as a character replace it with "tribe leader/local leader" and see what difference it makes in your perception of the stories.

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>>130740737
If you haven't you should read some Nietzsche, as should all the gooy goy Christians here

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>>130741183
>christian values
Get a load of this guy

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>>130741183
>Natural observation shows us that a society based on christian values goes to far greater lengths than a society based on islamic values. Or than an atheistic society (aka communism)
Actually it showed that it turned people into slaves of a Lord. The Lord were killers for the King. The King was given his power from the Church.

It was only after what you would call an "athiest" (ie., Philosophers, Enlightenment heroes, people who broke the power of the evil pedophile homosexual church of Rome).

Islam is just Christianity before it was broken by Aryan heroes who stood up against the pedo Church.

Communism = Judiasm. And its values of egalitarian utopia and Church like goverment is clearly based on Christianity's violent take over of Rome and Europe.

I'm sure you'll ignore everything I said and have a dumb SJW reaction to it, because you are a SJW. Just the old version

>>130740888
Nietzsche himself said that without God we would not be able to tell up from down and that the world would be completely without light. His philosophy was a warning, not a guide. He knew becoming an "overman" to be an impossible task. That's precisely why it's the OVER man, it's the desire for a savior, Christ like figure by another name.

>>130733080
literally Christcuck damage control the OP

>>130740554
>>130740554
>>130740554

Replace the word "god" with universe and the whole book makes a lot more sense. It's essentially just a giant book of old as fuck stories, stories that predate writing, stories that are so boiled down to the core of what it is to live in this universe that if you can understand what they really mean you will be feeling great and pretty much be set for life. Looking at it this way has definitely changed my life for the better, although there is one specific principle that has gotten me to where I am today. It's kind of insane, the moment I started doing it everything just took off for me because my whole mindset had changed.

No one follows the Bible anymore. I bet there are dozens of heathens ITT wearing cotton blend fabric shirts. You literally will go to hell for that sin. It's in the Bible. Did you even read the label on your hell shirt for sinners before you damned yourself by wearing it? A lot of you are probably wearing synthetic blend devil's shirts right now.

Leviticus 19:19
>"'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.

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>>130741225
>video game generation

This is Pagan What is it?

>>130741895
That picture just looks like Jesus is getting the helping hand he rightfully deserves.

>>130733080
I agree.
With the fear of punishment after death for committing sin, a well ordered society is a reality.

>>130741585
> Nazi flag
> Is a cuck

Makes sense

>>130736741
>he thinks Christians solely use scripture to argue theistic ideals
wew

>>130742197
Then why religious societies the most violent with the highest crime rates?

>>130733080
Fools believe in god, and wise men use that belief.

>>130733080
>just a book full of fake stories and hateful comments.
I wonder how mad atheists get, knowing that said book has done more good for the world than anything they've screeched about

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>>130741352
>Peterson
The guy is the last ditch effort at converting sane people to worship a Jew at the feet of pedophile priests in fancy dresses.

He wont threaten you. He's like one of those girls that go to clubs and fuck guys and take them back to the cult. He's a honey trap

AND HE'S PAYING PEOPLE TO SHILL HIS (FOR SALE) BOOKS/CONTENT HERE!

While he's paid by the Leftist government to lie about Hitler to children

>>130741860
>neitzsche
>last act was to cry over some guy whipping his horse
>spent the last 15 years of his life in an insane asylum
Clearly his insight will lead us to great places.

>>130741692
Ignoring the point of what I'm saying doesn't make it "not an argument," it just means you're dense.

Rephrased again, this time into simpler terms: there is no Western culture without Christianity. You're point another other threats to society is irrelevant. There is no greater existential threat than that which aims to eliminate our foundational beliefs.

>>130741899
"I love those who do not first seek beyond the stars for reasons to go down and to be sacrifices: but who sacrifice themselves to the earth, that the earth may one day belong to the Overman"

Yeah me too. I get panic attacks and really low lows but I started to recite the our father and they subside. I would say I am a gnostic theist now but I haven't known any side but the Christian one. Jesus seemed like an ok dude.

>>130733080
I had some JW's doorknock me on the weekend.
I usually make them leave pretty quickly, but this time I decided to have a chat with them.
"oh, you want to talk to me about the moral decay of society and erosion of the family unit?"

> autistic /pol/-mode engaged

They were a captive audience. I invited them inside and they got to hear all my antisemitic views on how the Jews are destroying the world, how they created cultural marxism and are pushing it on the west to destroy civilization and bring around a new world order.

It was great fun. Any time they tried to push the watchtower crap on me or read a passage from the bible, I'd interrupt them and continue my rant.

>>130742025
>>130742025
>>130742025

That's a shit story in the same way that the a "carpenters bible" or a "poker bible" or any other "bible" can become out of date and be shit. Think about it, think about the word "bible" outside the context of the "religious bible" in any other form it just means a collection of rough guidelines that are good for the most part but some points can definitely be out of date. Think of the bible like the "living in this universe bible" and it will make a lot more sense. Sort of like the "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" is a bible but ours is a shitty earth version because we don't have the interplanetary stuff in it.

>>130741873
>>130741860
Hitler is long dead and Nazis did nothing to fight the Jews. He tried to destroy Europe and failed and you will die with him. Good riddens.

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>>130736741
The person who made that picture is sad inside I would imagine

>>130738418
How did the Jews create Christianity whilst Jesus rejected most of the teachings of Judaism?

This has to be bait, communism during the USSR (not Russia) favored Marxist communism which implemented atheistic ideals. It's counter-intuitive to suggest Christianity was used as the foundation for communism, when said ideal was anti-religious.

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>>130742388
Implying any of that matters

Get woke faggot

>>130742494
Still waiting for you to explain how Christianity supposedly being the SAVIOR of all Western culture would mean it's our forebear.

>>130742609
The Bible is not a guide. It is a commandment that you either obey or go to hell. It says so in the Bible. You should read it and see if you still want to follow those rules or live in the kind of society it describes.

>>130742197
Which doesn't work because we're well past the point of people questioning the sin itself. You can't close that door once it's been opened. If you forcefully try to keep a populace in line with fear, they will reject it eventually, just like what is happening to liberals now where they pushed their doctrine of oppression so hard that people elected Donald Trump.

You cannot enforce a perpetual religious society. It isn't possible, particularly with the level of advancement we have reached. Though many are still religious, there is no religiously driven first world government in existence right now, only third world shitholes.

This "we need religion to keep people moral shit" is a crutch you faggots are clinging to. You should embrace right wing atheism. Embrace the right because it's the strongest model, and ditch the fucking religious cuckery. As long as you try to sell this sky dad shit, you are eventually going to lose because it isn't real. Sky dad said so isn't going to win most intelligent people over.

>>130742164
Yes he deserves free heroin you fucking retard.

>>130742752
It is funny because Evola wrote at length about how wrong Nietzsche was and what an obsolete world view he presented.

>>130733080
You had a neckbeard at 12?

WTF? There can't possibly be a god.

stop spamming this board you nutcase.
religion = ignorance + stupidity

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>>130733080
JP's ideas on religion are just baby tier evolutionary psychology with some bullshit tacked on

>>130741692
You are dismissing most of the claims they've made. You cannot simply ignore something valid, and accuse the other of using misinformation.

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>>130741952
>It's essentially just a giant book of old as fuck stories, stories that predate writing
What? Brainwashing!

It's not "boiled down", it's full of mind control techniques. It's ancient mind control and it's not even translated right. People don't know the culture, they don't get the Semitic cultural references. So the church comes around and says "everyone is related to Ha-Adam and Eve!" in order to dumb it down.

So the church comes around and says "every 'advesary' in the Bible is all the pagan gods and everyone who worships the traditions of their ancestors and we will call them ALL an Aramaic word known as "Satan/Satanists!" in order to dumb it down.

It's basically mind control and you can get a version to fit whatever you want to believe in as long as you are willing to pay the church and buy the books. Just like Peterson is doing with his shill threads on here and books

>God is just Universe
No, Universe is a pagan belief. God is a character who is clearly Jewish in nature

>>130733080
>i'm extremely redpilled
>reality
>metaphors
>we need to be slaves
>agnostic meme
>enlightened

You sound like a complete faggot, mate. Neck yourself.

>>130742610
>Hitler is long dead and Nazis did nothing to fight the Jews
Meanwhile the person you worship has been dead for millennia, and actually WAS a jew himself.

>Good riddens
>riddens

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>>130742326
>he makes it up as he goes along
Whooo there Charlie

>>130742804
>>130742804
>>130742804

So just don't follow the shitty parts of it. I pick and choose and I wish others would do the same. We need more sane people to appreciate it so others dont get so confused about the nonsense. I've had "bibles" for other professions that are outdated and the old parts are cast aside. Honestly it would be a lot better if it got an edit, it just needs a 2.0 version that isnt filled with so much outdated shit.

>>130734431
>If only i had the ignorance to be able to choose what i believe.

It becomes obvious that god exists if you try psilocybin. Was atheist, no longer. There is 0 reason for our consciousness to exist without a god. Everyone believes in god, some people hide it like a bad conscience.

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>>130743023
this, OP is gay.
>kekistani flag
>"I used to be atheist but now I GET religion lol"
>JP
>reddit spacing

>>130742952
What am I dismissing?

>>130735523
>implying Catholicism isn't the true Christianity and that it's not the protestants who ruined everything with their "oooooOOOOooh, I can interpret the Bible for myself and I can do anything I want because I'm automatically forgiven by my bff Jesus" bullshit

Humanity needed timeless absolute moral authority.
The destructive potential power of the high horse was obviously well known. SJWs wreck civilisation within a couple of generations if unchecked by morality set in stone. Literally set in stone.
nothing is new under the sun.
Without morality being constant we have racism/Islamophobia etc ad nauseam. Designer morality fostered by the power of image and poured into empty vessels who need it to fill the hollow place leafy by the destruction of religious values.

>>130738418
>>130741895
Make up your mind, is Christianity too peaceful or violent?

>>130743031
>Meanwhile the person you worship has been dead for millennia, and actually WAS a jew himself.

This reads as if it was written by a teenage who has just discovered Nazism online and is finding it to be "edgy"

Very plebian DESU Perhaps Facebook or Instagram are more to your liking?

>>130742837
And?

Nietzsche simply came up with a lot of the concepts and put the ground down for a huge amount of modern philosophers and leaders of nations. A lot of his core concepts are pretty damm right though

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>>130742907
>that meme
>those pagans
>that Jesuit
HAHA, fucking low IQ Christians.

>>130743186
>>130740855
What the fuck is "reddit spacing"? Putting a space between paragraphs which is a normal way of writing? Where did this dumb meme even come from?

>>130743252
>leafy
Left

>>130742758
>savior?
Christianity saved Europe in the Crusades. I've explained this.
>who are our forefathers?
The people who have died keeping foreign invaders from burning down your churches and forcibly converting you to their backwards religion, if not just killing you outright for heresy.
>b-b-but Christianity is just as bad
Now you've truly shown your hand. You're just another blue-piller whose been brainwashed by post-modernist propaganda.

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>>130743380
>modern philosophers and leaders of nations.

Into the trash you go.

>>130733080
This has to be the worst conversion in the history of conversions.

>>130742752
When the end result of a worldview is to make you an insane invalid, of course it matters.

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>>130733080
If you need a book to tell you how you should live/be happy than you're a fucking retard.

>>130733080
Same here myman
And get rid of that kekistan flag, your age is showing

>>130743184
We are all lucky you believe in a god, who knows what kind of killing spree you would go on if you didnt.

Go back to farming my coffee.

>>130743009
>>130743009
>>130743009

I don't pay them shit and honestly I think pagan is cool as fuck too. All I'm saying is that my man Nich was right and for some reason normies get crazy when "God is killed". Us non normies that have the ability to not rage and destroy society over every little thing need to get together and create a bible 2.0 that gets rid of all the dumb shit so all the god loving normies dont misinterpret it with their pea brains and run around killing people for a guy with a beard. Does anyone get what I'm saying here???

>>130743333
You should probably hang around fewer edgy teenagers

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>>130733080
>And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned.
This argument is retarded. Fair enough if you choose to believe in religion because it has value to society but don't buy into Peterson's whole "it's true because it's useful" bullshit. Just because you agree with Peterson on a bunch of other stuff don't reject the common sense idea of truth - that something that is true is true independently of whether anyone believes it - because you like what Peterson says about cleaning your room or whatever.

Listen to the tedious debate with Sam Harris on truth and you'll see how wrong Peterson is on this matter. He makes up this stupid idea of truth that no one but him accepts and uses it to claim that the Bible is true.

And why the Bible? Why not the Koran? Or some other poetic book with a bunch of metaphors?

I'm not trying to put you off becoming religious, I'm just saying that Peterson's arguments are retarded and I almost want to say he's not a proper Christian. If you're going to become religious, do it right. Look at the arguments for and against God's existence instead of falling back on unfalsifiable metaphors, myth, and a dubious conception of truth.

I waa born into Islam, became and edgy athiest, then came back to religion. I know that feel.

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>>130733080

Oh yeah this beautiful white woman OP posted? No beta Christian male will EVER touch her or be inside her. That is your fault for continuing to believe in a stupid religion that teaches you to be weak, meek, and that the world can never be under your control.

But you know who IS inside of Ms. Courtney Tailor? DOZENS of black and brown men. That's who. Pic related. Her cunt has been so stretched out it doesn't even close anymore. It has a 2-3 inch permanent gap when her legs are even slightly spread.

I honestly can't wait until the Christian church succeeds in flooding Europe and America with the entirety of Africa and the middle east. You'll all get what you deserve for your shortsightedness and stupidity.

>>130741692
They have a valid argument that you are dismissing. Your opinions do not invalidate arguments mate.

>>130743392
It used to actually have meaning. It doesn't anymore. Now it just means "lolparagraphs XD". Reddit spacing used to refer to a writing style specific to Reddit. Namely something like:

So today I went down to the park and guess what?

Nazi.
Wearing.
Fascist.

Yeah.

So I decided to snap a photo of him so we could all titter, find out who he is, and ruin his life.

Stuff like that would be Reddit spacing, but it's another term that has lost all meaning.

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>>130743272
Christianity was violent as Communism was violent.

Communism and Christianity eventually moved from violence to ass kissing degenerates to convert them and SJW moralizing, while using large government bureaucracies to silent descent.

>>130742812
Were you raised by religious parents?

>>130733080
No HSit Anon. you didn't have to go through some 4-5 hour lectures to even know that! its in history.

Religion will forever be a part of human culture, in some way. As an atheist, I am completely fine with this. Humans need religion to keep them motivated.

>>130733080
if you were ever an atheist at any point in life you are a retard

>>130733080
All Christians are ducks
You are a sheep who has chosen a different brand of mind control, atheism to judais- I mean make-up I mean christianity.

>>130743524
>Christianity saved Europe in the Crusades. I've explained this.
From what? The threat of Christians invading foreign nations?
>The people who have died keeping foreign invaders from burning down your churches and forcibly converting you to their backwards religion, if not just killing you outright for heresy.
Christians invaded foreign lands, burnt down churches, and forced people to convert to their backwards religion and killed people for heresy.

>>130743746
how come you were not stoned/beheaded for being an apostate? Or were they gonna but you told them it was just a prank bro.

>>130743553
We're talking the "modem" world when it was actually still good enough and society was still moral the late 1800's to the early 1900's.

>>130743567
No that's a myth

The diagnosis of syphilis has since been challenged and a diagnosis of "manic-depressive illness with periodic psychosis followed by vascular dementia" was put forward by Cybulska prior to Schain's study.[71][72] Leonard Sax suggested the slow growth of a right-sided retro-orbital meningioma as an explanation of Nietzsche's dementia;[11][73] Orth and Trimble postulated frontotemporal dementia[74] while other researchers have proposed a hereditary stroke disorder called CADASIL.[75][76] Poisoning by mercury, a treatment for syphilis at the time of Nietzsche's death,[77] has also been suggested

>>130742515
>Yes, may Jesus indeed one day return and cleanse the foulness from the earth and may our toils not be in vain but only in hastening His Holy return.
>Amen
Explain how it's any different. You've proven the point.

>>130743380
>Nietzsche simply came up with a lot of the concepts and put the ground down for a huge amount of modern philosophers and leaders of nations
Name one of them that did anything but lead his people to ruin and do more to destroy his culture/race than its actual enemies.

>>130742804
No Christian follows the Law of Moses to that extent. Google 'supercessionism'. Also, Paul and others explain that parts of the Law have been fulfilled and are no longer binding. In fact the entire Jewish Law is no longer binding, only the moral principles behind it. Even Jesus' apostles technically broke the Law and Jesus didn't reprove them. Circumcision is not binding on Christians, yet was virtually the most important command before Jesus.

Learn the most basic theology, and you will be able to discuss this without showing obvious ignorance

>>130743813
One religious, one not. Why? So you can dismiss everything with the "rebellion" meme?

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>>130743524
I'm not trying to debate whether Christianity saved anything. I'm rolling on the hypothetical that it did.

>The people who have died keeping foreign invaders from burning down your churches and forcibly converting you to their backwards religion
Soldiers? And is the implication that those churches that would've been burned down epitomized "Europe"?
If they had been lost, "Europe" is gone too?

>I-I-I think adding stutters means I can get away with strawmanning
Nope.

>>130743805
Ironic how communist revolutions somehow lead to atheist propaganda/ violence that literally went out to kill/target religious people. Apparently you believe correlation equals causation.

Atheists breathe, communists breathe therefore all communists are atheists. Two can play at that game.

>>130733080
TO THE unbelieving materialist, man is simply an evolutionary accident. His hopes of survival are strung on a figment of mortal imagination; his fears, loves, longings, and beliefs are but the reaction of the incidental juxtaposition of certain lifeless atoms of matter. No display of energy nor expression of trust can carry him beyond the grave. The devotional labors and inspirational genius of the best of men are doomed to be extinguished by death, the long and lonely night of eternal oblivion and soul extinction. Nameless despair is man's only reward for living and toiling under the temporal sun of mortal existence. Each day of life slowly and surely tightens the grasp of a pitiless doom which a hostile and relentless universe of matter has decreed shall be the crowning insult to everything in human desire which is beautiful, noble, lofty, and good.

>>130743758
kek

Blacks/hispanics/moslems are more religious than Whites.

I came on my laptop

>>130743790
>If I reply to the same post a couple more times it will come true.

>>130743729
Maybe I don't understand. I'm much like OP, an edgy atheist who came around to belief in God after hearing Peterson's pragmatic arguments in favor of belief.

And why the Bible? Why not the Koran? Or some other poetic book with a bunch of metaphors?
Because the Bible is the book with the right metaphors, or at least the most true ones. The ones that, when followed correctly, lead to the most successful and prosperous society/way of life.

Do you mind sharing with me where your beliefs come from? Or how my beliefs are wrong?

>>130744111
>Nietzsche is pro nihilist
Nope try actually reading him and not hearing off what (((Hollywood))) movies say he is

Name one of them that did anything but lead his people to ruin and do more to destroy his culture/race than its actual enemies.
Oh gee I dunno it's only like Adolf Hitler was a big fan of his writings and took many of his core concepts along for the ride, such as the Ubermencsch comes directly from Nietzsche and the opposite the Untermensch

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>>130742494
>Western culture is at its foundation Christian culture because without Christianity the West wouldn't exist as a single, identifiable entity in the first place.

You're ignorance of ancient history is staggering. Western culture is Western civilization and that existed long before Christianity was imagined. Ancient Greece is considered the birthplace of Western culture, with the world's first democratic system of government and major advances in philosophy, science and mathematics. Greece was followed by Rome, which made key contributions in law, government, engineering and political organization. Rome was Pagan from its foundation in 753 BC until Emperor Theodosis I made Christianity the state religion, a good 1,100 years later. All this time doesn't exist to you, everything happened after Jesus and white people just lived in caves until Jesus made things better.
This is why people can't take you and many of your kind seriously, you wish to rewrite history.

>>130744078
>may Jesus indeed one day return
Return from where?
The point of Overman is that it's a material notion, isn't it? A concept that exists purely from this world. Something that represents OUR highest potential. Not that of our "higher creator"

>>130743758
> But you know who IS inside of Ms. Courtney Tailor? DOZENS of black and brown men. That's who. Pic related. Her cunt has been so stretched out it doesn't even close anymore. It has a 2-3 inch permanent gap when her legs are even slightly spread.

Yep, definitely a cuck

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>>130744042
>We're talking the "modem" world when it was actually still good enough and society was still moral the late 1800's to the early 1900's.


Begone, bourgeois scum

>>130742894
Whilst you are ignorant for other reasons

>>130743239
Enjoy your Islam

>>130743186
ah I see, as well as feminist trans islamophilia, atheism inevitably leads to paranoid delusions, makes sense

>>130743252
SJWdom is the atheist's religion

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>>130744887
Hey I'm not defending the modern world I'm just saying it's not the post ww2 mega cancer on crack degenerate type of philosophers

>>130744580
>>130744580
>>130744580

Thissss. Our bible is obviously a book of ideals that on average tends to produce more food/water/shelter, hotter hoes, stronger men, better tech, stronger weapons etc etc etc. Are the other religions even trying? Yes they are but they just suck hard cock so they can't get anything done. They would be much better off if they adopted our metaphor stories but properly and not the shit fundi versions like some morons do.

>>130744006
from Islam. Actually it's arguable as to whether it did save Europe, but Europe was definitely threatened by Islam on numerous occasions. Byzantium did far more to save Europe, far more. Charles Martel as also.

>>130737450
>idea of believing in things you really hope are true because they sound nice.
Sometimes i really wish i could wholly become religious.

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>>130744934
>Whilst
>ah I see

>>130743967
Enlighten me on how free-thinkers, anti-theists, etc. contributed to the development of western civilization, and how they continue to do so, as data suggest most secular people are left-wing, especially when compared to Christians.

Ironic how Christianity is "mind control" whilst atheists typically support more liberal policies that have been responsible for destroying the west. People such as you are inept to the political views of secular people as a whole.

>>130743392
>being THIS new
just go back already
>>130744934
>anyone who doesn't believe in my god must be a feminist Muslim
Imagine being THIS retarded. I don't even think I can do that.

>>130744489
You must be trolling.

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>>130744353
>Ironic how communist revolutions somehow lead to atheist propaganda/ violence that literally went out to kill/target religious people. Apparently you believe correlation equals causation.

Athiest and Pagan are just SJW Christian brainwashing terms to dumb down things. Communists were never Atheists. They were Christians, Muslims, Jews, and non-believers in the Semitic god.
But they were all Semitic in nature. And it was invented by Jews based on Christianity's take over of Rome.

There isn't that much difference in technique or intention when calling someone a "Sexist" (a normal traditional person) and a "Pagan" (a normal traditional person)

>>130733080
>And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned. I never thought of it that way.

The thought that they were metaphors really never occurred to you?
Are you retarded?

>redpilled on religion
>worships a sandnigger

Keep pleasing the kikes retard

>>130744613
>Nope try actually reading him and not hearing off what (((Hollywood))) movies say he is
Not aware of what the Jews try to say about him. I've read Genealogy of Morals, Beyond Good and Evil, and All Too Human.

>Oh gee I dunno it's only like Adolf Hitler was a big fan of his writings and took many of his core concepts along for the ride, such as the Ubermencsch comes directly from Nietzsche and the opposite the Untermensch
And what did Hitler accomplish besides getting tens of millions of whites killed, destroying the moral order of Europe, strengthening the Jewish position and making racism the world's greatest evil? If he hadn't been an ideologically obsessed retard the West would be in a superior position today.

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>>130733080
Christian general >>130740572

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>>130743729
Contd.

>>130741952
>Replace the word "god" with universe and the whole book makes a lot more sense.
You're so confused. How does Deuteronomy 23:1 make sense if you replace 'God' with 'Universe'? Or Corinthians 11:15? Or any other idiosyncratic passage from the Bible? You clearly haven't read it and are just repeating what Jordan Peterson says.

Peterson is a smart guy and has his own reasons for believing what he does - Jung, archetypes, etc. He's studied a wealth of literature that has enabled him to place these stories in their proper context.

>It's essentially just a giant book of old as fuck stories
Yes it is - most of which are utterly bizarre and many of which are beautiful and poetic.
>>130744580
>Because the Bible is the book with the right metaphors, or at least the most true ones.
Similar comment to the above. Have you actually read either? Which metaphors are you referring to? And what do you think of the very many downright bizarre/irrelevant/just plain wrong stories and verses? If you'd read these books before hearing JP and tried to decipher the meanings of these metaphors yourself I doubt you'd find the overall message particularly compelling.

Religion isn't just something you choose to believe after listening to a few JP lectures - it's a serious commitment. Actually read the Bible and form your own views, rather than accepting JP's interpretation on authority. Look at the book as a whole and decide how much 'truth' is really in it.

>Do you mind sharing with me where your beliefs come from? Or how my beliefs are wrong?
What even are your beliefs?

My belief process was basically:
>went to Christian school and church as a child
>never really believed it
>became proper atheist about age 16
>studied arguments for the existence of God with an open mind
>Realise they are quite convincing
>Now agnostic generally, but an atheist about the God of the Bible, the Koran, etc. but understand going to church

>>130745485
Still waiting.
The claim is that Christianity saving Western civilization from a foreign threat qualifies it as Western civilization itself.
How come nobody can give a logical argument to substantiate this? :^)

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Of course, now that the shills have forced the discussion to be conducted in the simplest possible forms and at the lowest level of abstraction they now are willing to engage in a discussion.

>>130744006
>From what? The threat of Christians invading foreign nations?
If there is no Christianity keeping foreign invaders at bay, every one of us would be praying five times per day towards Mecca. This is to say that without Christianity everything you take for granted today would not exist.

>>130744234
>I'm not trying to debate whether Christianity saved anything. I'm rolling on the hypothetical that it did.
It did not "hypothetically" do anything. It literally did save our shared culture. That is the entire point. You can argue that an Islamic Europe would have produced the technology and freedom that we have today if you want, but that is a separate argument and one that you will not find much evidence in support of.

Just a thought . I degenerate atheist for 20 years , got killed once in hospital still a atheist . Fast forward 8 years have first newborn daughter realize their is a GOD such miracles faggot science can not explain . Science claims all shit comes from a Big Bang but can't explain where all shit for the Big Bang comes from . I realize it explains GOD and creation exactly . Fuck it all makes sense now !!

>>130733080
So, you turned 13?

>>130733080
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

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>>130745218
AHAHAHAHAHA!

WHAT DELUSIONS!

Keep taking credit for the white man's character and society you fucking jews

>>130744613
>lead his people to ruin and do more to destroy his culture/race than its actual enemies.

So you're saying that Hitler didn't do this? Intredasting

>>130744759
Still Christianity is at the foundation of western culture as we know it. We are too remote from Greek and Roman culture to really embrace it except theoretically. Have you read the Aeneid? Watched a single play by Euripides? Have you seen a single worship act in honour of the Olympian Gods? It's true that there was a high culture in southern Europe before Christianity existed, but it is also true to say that Europe was refounded on the basis of Christendom, and that virtually all the culture and thought that proceeded the embrace of forms of Christianity were based on it to a high degree for the next 1600 years. This includes Bach, Beethoven and Mozart, Shakespeare and Tolstoy, Newton and Descartes. And Greek and Italian culture and thought were remade through the prism of Christianity. Not to mention N Europe, which was primitive before Christianity shaped and moulded it. So it's fair to say that European culture has Christianity at its foundation

>>130737836
Atheism is just Judaism. Or more correctly, Anti-theism is.

>>130745894
>I blame Hitler for what happened after he tried to stop the jews when all the jews declared war on him

Just roll over and go to sleep it's obvious if Hitler never existed we would still be living in white ethno nations with no jews in the media or politics despite them being in the British and American governments even before Hitlers rise to power

>>130735523
Catholicism is the one true church you blaspheming sinner, all other forms of Christianity branched off from Catholicism.

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>>130733080

Sounds like you're a Deist, OP. I've never heard him comment on it, but I'm pretty sure Jordan Peterson is one too.

>>130746043
Can you explain why it was specifically Christianity that was needed to keep foreign invaders at bay?

>It literally did save our shared culture. That is the entire point.
No, the point was that saving our """""shared culture"""" makes it PART of our culture and something we owe allegiance to.
Substantiate, pls. Last I checked, Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

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>>130746152
>Science claims all shit comes from a Big Bang but can't explain where all shit for the Big Bang comes from
Cause and effect. Heraclitus called this the Logos.

>Nah ahhh it's came from a magic jew!

I feel bad for your daughter.

>>130744887
Morning, commie scum

>>130746288
see
>>130746314

>>130745938
>>130745938
>>130745938

Ok I'll rephrase

If you replace the word "god" with "universe" in some places it makes *more* sense.

Yes a shit load of them are bizzare and stupid as fuck. I ignore them, I hope other do as well.

See my other comment about the world needing a "bible 2.0" which would be a "bible" without all the dumb shit. Comment is here >>130743705

>>130745291
Is this your portrait

>>130745419
Feminist Islam is the only alternative to Christianity. You will see. In fact it's already habbening

>>130745662
Take your tablets

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>>130746043
>>130746474
>Can you explain why it was specifically Christianity that was needed to keep foreign invaders at bay?

It didn't.

EUROPE WAS WHITE FOR 30,000 YEARS UNTIL CHRISTIANITY MADE THEM SHITSKINS!!!

SOUTH AMERICA = WHITE + SHITSKIN CHRISTIANS

MOHOMMAD WAS CONVERTED BY CATHOLICS = CHRISTIANITY CREATED ISLAM

>>130746729
Sick comeback my dude
really roasted me
Have an upvote :^)

>>130743184
I've done lots of drugs and just because I temporarily altered my brain chemistry doesn't mean I'll start believing in a "higher power." Sure there could be something out there, but I'm convinced it isn't anything like what we conceive.

However, I'll say that a strong mushroom trip has made me more empathetic/

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>>130746729
>clean your room
>take your tablets

Pathetic man children need a Jew daddy

>>130746261
Buy a book about history and learn something. Learn to read if you need to.

>>130746474
>Can you explain why it was specifically Christianity that was needed to keep foreign invaders at bay?
Was it Pagans that organized the Crusades? Has it been some nebulous conception of race that has bonded Europe? No. It was only Christ and the Christian church that has allowed and continues to allow a common front against outside forces. Christianity isn't a "part" of our culture, it is actually the foundation of our culture. It is the thing which unites the different parts into a whole.

>>130743919
No, fuck off. Your statement is egregiously untrue and you are clearly projecting your intellectual insecurities on others.

>>130733080
OP I'm just now clicking this thread so I don't know how active you are but I'll talk with you about this. I bro downed with a man I met this weekend over getting religious again

>>130746314
>I blame Hitler for what happened after he tried to stop the jews when all the jews declared war on him
Yes. Isn't it obvious that Hitler never actually existed and is this world's Emmanuel Goldstein?

>Just roll over and go to sleep it's obvious if Hitler never existed we would still be living in white ethno nations with no jews in the media or politics despite them being in the British and American governments even before Hitlers rise to power
No, I said we'd be in a better position. Without the failed Nazi caricature of moral strength to diverge from, the West wouldn't have taken as many suicidal actions as it has.

>>130741167

>When's the last time a preacher tried to steal your wallet?

>Checks the flag

Of course it's fucking burger taking everything literally. No wonder you faggots have the most people believing in the fucking angels.

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>>130745938
contd.
>>130745938
Comment was too long to explain my beliefs properly, so I'll try and go into a bit more detail here.

The arguments against the Bible and Koran are, in my view, completely compelling. From a scientific perspective, there are just so many falsehoods to convincingly undermine the possibility that either book is the word of God.
Random Bible quote:
"No one who has been emasculated by crushing or cutting may enter the assembly of the LORD."
Why would an omnipotent, omniscient being let that sneak into the book? So many other examples, same goes for the Koran.

You could argue, as many do, that it's more about the metaphor - but then you're basically just making the rules up YOURSELF and cherry picking verses to suit your own made up rules. This is my problem with >>130746688 Bible 2.0? Surely an omnipotent being would get it right the first time? And who decides what goes in this Bible 2.0? If you're just going to make up a brand new book yourself what relationship does it have to God?

But, and this is the thing it took me about 10 years to realise, just because the Bible and the Koran are not correct, doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

If God exists, though, I doubt he's a personal being who answers prayers - problem of evil is an obvious counterexample to this conception.

Nevertheless, I find Aquinas' cosmological contingency argument pretty compelling. But even if this argument is sound and God exists it certainly doesn't follow that the Bible is true.

If people want to go to church and follow the good teachings of the Bible, that's good and I respect it and no longer get all edgy teenager about it. But if you're a young earth creationist or deny evolution or say God answers prayers or any other empiricallly false claim you're simply wrong.

>>130746835
Why act as a stereotypical fedora neckbeard, then use such as an 'insult'? Is this merkin humour?

>>130746991
You only need tablets if you are manifesting signs of severe illness. The schizoids in this thread unfortunately fit this category

>>130747330
If Jews were already in the governments of the majority of strong western powers, the Soviets, The Weinmar,Britain,United States,France then they we sure as hell would end up in the position we are now

You'll hate on Hitler for what happened after but then ignore why he did it in the first place.

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>>130747000
I have a history degree. I know how to research without listening to a Leftist Canadian College professor.

You pathetic video game nerds need a daddddy. A big space jew daddy!

Pathetic.

>>130746474
>>130747024
>Was it Pagans that organized the Crusades?
Was it Pagans who killed their young men for Israel? LOL!

>Has it been some nebulous conception of race that has bonded Europe?
Anti-white comment. "Worship Jews abandon your race, goy!" Europe was never bounded into one super state until the Communist EU. And never needed to be.

>Christianity isn't a "part" of our culture, it is actually the foundation of our culture.
Who's cult? Your Jew-Christian civilization? Philosophy-Science, which is pagan, built civilization. You Jews and your worshipers only parasite off of it.

> It is the thing which unites the different parts into a whole.
No, that's Communism (Christianity 2.0). Christianity just caused brothers to kill brothers.

>>130747330
>>130747330
>>130747330

Hitler was just an envious SJW socialist faggot. Meritocracy is what should rule. He was butthurt that him and his German faggot friends weren't as smart as the jews and couldn't get money and hoes like the jews could. The entire nation ended up being filled with butthurt pussy faggots.

>>130747024
>Was it Pagans that organized the Crusades?

The theology and lore of the knight class is actually a mash up between Pagan and Christian ideas. Back in middle evil Europe everyone and everything was Christian at face value and in private they had varrying mixes of Pagan and Christian beliefs. In the popular myths at the time: Canterberry tales and Authorian Legends you actually see pagan and Christian elements side by side.

Essentially the crusades COULD happen because Pagan elements of society could provide justification for war.

>>130739065

The dog was intelligently designed

>>130747024
>Was it Pagans that organized the Crusades?
No. Do you mean to say the people who organized the Crusades were only able to do so because they were blessed with God's will, or something along those lines?

>some nebulous conception of race that has >It was only Christ and the Christian church that has allowed and continues to allow a common front against outside forces.
Give proof, please. I will convert immediately.

>It is the thing which unites the different parts into a whole
I think you have me confused for some kind of pan-European nationalist.

>It is actually the foundation of our culture.
So what you mean to say is that the foundation of our culture is the worship of a semite who was born in Judea.
I'm starting to smell something funny here, anyone else?

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>>130747689
You worship a magic Jew. You're mentally ill.

And you're a fucking liar.

>>130743967
You sound like the same liberal faggots who invaded DC making money off the government through contracts. Religion has a purpose and I feel bad for those who don't realize this. You're actually missing out on one of the strongest and best forces in our world

>>130747801
A meritocracy is what the Nazi party was and it's what fascism is based on.

>>130747648
>>130747648
>>130747648

I'm not saying an "omnipotent being" created the bible. I'm saying that normie morons apparently need this shit to not lose their minds and turn into fucking psychos. I believe in a higher power or whatever too but whatever it is has no idea what the fuck is going on down here. What I'm saying is that its up to us non psychos to create a 2.0 version of this shit before all these fucking peabrains go nuts again. Also, to your point maybe with a 2.0 version there wont be retarded creationists.

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>>130747997
>The dog was intelligently designed
By pagans.
Eugenics are anti-Christian, anon.

All dogs go to heaven!

Go to a bible study. The church I go to we go through one book at a time and one of the pastors knows Greek and the other knows Latin and we read all the different translations as well to compare and interpret the text and arrive to a group understanding.

>>130743009
people need to be under control that pic is stupid given the way things are today in modern society people are lazy they are degenerate and i would rather be ruled by a guy who believes he is going to burn in hell forever if he does a bad job then an atheist who has nothing to fear if he fucks up

>>130747648
The true congregation is pure, and those with bodily deformity could not be pure. Christ eliminated the need for such legalism.
Also, even in the OT, a eunuch could worship God freely, just perhaps not in the temple itself. Or this was referring primarily to those who deliberately castrated themselves in Baal worship. Biblical exegesis is not best reduced to simpleminded text mining by the way.

Isaiah 56:3-5 says


Let no foreigner who is bound to the Lord say,
“The Lord will surely exclude me from his people.”
And let no eunuch complain,
“I am only a dry tree.”

4 For this is what the Lord says:

“To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths,
who choose what pleases me
and hold fast to my covenant—
5
to them I will give within my temple and its walls
a memorial and a name
better than sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting name
that will endure forever.

Also Jesus praises eunuchs who worship, and there is no restriction from eunuchs joining the Christian congregation, for example the Ethiopian eunuch

>>130748174
>>130748174
>>130748174

Taking from people that are better at business than you is not a meritocracy. It's butthurt faggots taking stuff that isn't theirs.

>>130748035
No argument but what could you expect from a spiritual cripple and Islamist apologist. I look forward to Armageddon on your behalf.

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>>130748459
(((business)))
You can keep your merits m8
we'll keep ours

>>130745938
Thank you for your reply. My beliefs aren't much more articulated than >>130741952, to be honest. Basically God is a symbol of man's lack of understanding. Man is incapable of knowing all, but by personifying the unknown, man can know the unknown better. The only way to be without God is to be overtaken by hubris or to know all, the latter of which is beyond man's ability.

To your point about actually reading the whole Bible, I agree. I've been fucking around with some free audiobooks but I'll probably soon cave and get my own copy to read through.

>>130748035
i would rather trust the guy who believes he will fry in hell forever then a guy who does not (atheist) who also does not believe in morality (reliativists) so fuck you fuck people like you

>>130747777
Akhenaten

>>130748459
Being a jew and exploiting people is not good
A meritocracy is rule by the best and the best is not sheklestein and his media empire, nor Ayn rand and her kike loving exploitation of the morality of the west for self gain. That is not the best

The best is a working class man who though pure will and effort drags himself up the line of people gets educated then though his superiority is accepted into the nazi party as a well educated individual with a unbreakable will as his efforts are well known.

>>130733080
>And when he explained that the Bible is just a big book of metaphors to represent what happens in life and how to deal with it I was fucking mind blowned. I never thought of it that way.
>I never thought of it that way.
Really?

...REALLY?

God damn you have lived a pathetic life

>>130748655
>>130748655
>>130748655

If they are better at handling resources than retards buying overloads of shoes, dresses, cars and drinking like fish then they should be in charge of the resources. I've spoke to an old nazi guy about 10 years ago and he said that at the time they were all wasteful lazy niggs with shit for brains and no sense of how to conduct business.

>>130747648
contd.
>>130743705
>>130746688
>>130748246
OK, to address your Bible 2.0 comment a bit more directly:
>normie morons apparently need this shit to not lose their minds and turn into fucking psychos.
Where's your evidence for this? If you look at the psychological evidence, there is no empirical support for this claim. There are evil religious people and there are good atheists and vice versa. Do Christians actually follow these rules? Of course not! They just do what they were going to do anyway and look down their noses when people don't act the way they were going to act anyway.
E.g. cheating on your wife, sex before marriage, etc. Is there any differences in the rates of these between religious and non-religious people

So, I don't think a Bible 2.0 would be much help. I get your concern that normies might need to be told what to do but what they really need is to be educated in certain ways to develop the faculties you demonstrate when you say stuff like
>Yes a shit load of them are bizzare and stupid as fuck. I ignore them, I hope other do as well.
How do you know which ones to ignore and follow? Some kind of intelligent intuition presumably. This is what needs to be taught - the ability to think about stuff and act wisely rather than some prescriptive list (Bible 2.0).

Anyway, if we wrote Bible 2.0 it would probably be outdated in 100 years time or whatever, just as Bible 1.0 hasn't stood the time with homosexuality, slavery, etc.

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>>130748378
>people need to be under control
You do... Because you're a weak bitch. Shitskins like you need a master.
Aryans don't. Unless they're manipulated by a Jew and then they need a war culture, not just pedophiles in a dress worshiping a magic kike controlling their minds

>Hell is forever
Haha, you weak little bitch. Hell is a pagan goddess from Norse mythology. You can't even read your Semitic books

>>130748809
What has ((atheist)) ((philosophy)) given us? Communism, moral relativism, lgbt rights, feminism, sjwdom, moral and spiritual cancer, and now the spread of Islam. ((Atheist)) ((philosophy)) is cancer, it is evil, it is Satanic, and ultimately those who claim to be atheists really worship Satan, just as the Islamists do. There will be a judgement which is will overtake you and cleanse the Earth of such poison.

>>130742257
Kek

>>130748736
>>130748736
>>130748736

Do you agree we need a 2.0 version of this shit to stop these morons from killing all of us? They are dumb enough to believe it fell from the sky so fuck it, why not?

>>130733680
>I stopped believing in Christianity after high school but now more than ever realize how important god is to the fabric of society
pretty much this. God is important to keep people moral, and as long as someones faith doesn't cause them to mow down pedestrians in peace trucks, who am I to judge?

>>130746420
>what is gnosticism

>>130748988
>Akhenaten
A theory first proposed by (((Sigman Frued))).

#Zietguits bullshit

>>130748809
>i would rather trust the guy who believes he will fry in hell forever then a guy who does not

"Id rather trust the guy who believes the white race is evil than one who doesn't"

Why would you follow a delusional fool and a liar to war?
Because you're one yourself.

Hell is a pagan Goddess from Norse myth. Learn to read your Semitic books

>>130748248

The dog is to the wolf as the ape is to the man, as the man is to God.

There's a life death rebirth cycle in many things. You anti Christian people are on the death step. Atheists are closer to God than people who believe in cloud beard man (saturn...) Take the next step and find the truth.

>>130746420
also

>what is coptic

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>>130749222
learn what a hierarchy is you stupid fuck you fell for the equality also does a bad priest means religion is bad? what other things in life you use this retarded logic of yours

Christianity is not redpilled im the slightest. They literally worship a kike and work hand in hand with them.

>>130747777
You are anti-European filth. When you deny the great men who made civilization, who nearly all were Christian, you show your evil intent. You worship a baboon named Darwin and a magic teacup and something made out of spaghetti, right? What is Philosophy-Science you pretentious poisonous know nothing fedoraed imbecile? Yes, post modernism has really contributed a lot. Worthless faggot

>>130747777
>Anti-white comment.
If you truly believe that the modern conception of "whiteness" was applicable 1000 years ago you are deluded. Pan-Europeanism obviously did not even exist until recent times. You acknowledge this fact in your next sentence:
>Europe was never bounded into one super state
No, they never were one state. Precisely! Why else, except for Christianity, would Europeans fight side by side against a "shared" existential threat? Until Christianity, Europe was filled with warlike, tribal, and Pagan cultures. It was Christianity that bonded them. If you believe that the ancient tribes of Europe saw other Europeans as kinsmen just because of their skin color you are woefully mistaken. Before Christianity, Europeans shared nothing.
>Philosophy-Science, which is pagan, built civilization. You Jews and your worshipers only parasite off of it.
That statement is just plain and simple an attempt to rewrite history into terms which are compatible with your post-modernist conceptions of history.
>No, that's Communism (Christianity 2.0). Christianity just caused brothers to kill brothers.
Brothers have been killing brothers since the beginning of time, lad. Cain and Abel is a very old story. Meanwhile Communism is the most murderous ideology ever conceived. Even the atheistic Wikipedia has this to say:
> The highest death tolls that have been documented in communist states occurred in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin, in the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong, and in Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. The estimates of the number of non-combatants killed by these three regimes alone range from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.

gg

>>130733080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY2KzjVNoKY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7w60CMUovU

>>130749399
*which will overtake you

>>130733080
Kek. Atheism was introduced by godless jews. They wanted to take away great metaphors from the goy and drive them into madness and misery. Another redpilled guy I recommend is Eckhart Tolle. He will literally liberate your mind and take a lot of weight of your shoulders.

Science can only go so far until it reaches a point of... oh so there are quarks, bosons and leptons but what created that? In the end you will always have to acknowledge there is a deeper intelligence that magically made everything work so flawlessly.

I'm pretty much an agnostic though. I don't think it matters to know if there's a God in order to live. Animals don't need to know. Fun fact, animals that have been taught sign language have yet to ask a question. Cos no animal so far (like apes capable of sign languag), has asked one single question. Which confirms my hunch... you don't need to know, to function.

>>130749804
ou are anti-European filth. When you deny the great men who made civilization, who nearly all were Christian

What is the Roman republic/Empire
What is Ancient Greece
What is Ancient Egypt and Persia

Sorry I forgot they were actually all Christian

>>130749222

Vast majority of humans need some form of control. Take a look around you.

> Work

CEO / Managers

> Life

Family / Friends / Wife / Husband

> Society

President / Dictator / Governing Body

> Community

Police / Community Board

> Internet

Site Owners / Moderators

> Religion

Priest / Leader

> Cult

Dictator / Governing Body

>>130749399
All those stem from the poisoned well of the Catholic church and Christianity in general. It breeds weakness and decedance.

>>130749562
then why are christians the only group that try to save it across history pagans are a bunch of LARPers and atheist are faggots and i can give you plenty of examples and i know christianity assimilate things from pagan beliefs

>>130748438
Yeah, I get that pretty much every Bible verse can be explained in some way, but it always strikes me as some ad-hoc qualification.

It's easy to pick on the old testament, I accept. But there are plenty of phrases in the new testament that seem equally bizarre/arbitrary/irrelevant/wrong and the more of these you find the more ad hoc the theory becomes.

My point is that most Christians have the common sense to ignore the daft bits and follow the beautiful/poetic/wise verses. But when you recognise this, why do you need the Bible at all? Why not just believe in God and contemplate the good bits of any book - the Bible, the Koran, even Shakespeare or Plato - rather than cling to one with so many erroneous or downright false passages? Why should you feel the need to justify every passage in that book?

>>130749184
>>130749184
>>130749184

That's fine we can put it in there that "god" will "rewrite the bible and drop it from the heavens every centrury ohhhahhhh" the peabrains will believe it and we have to have faith in the smart ones to figure it out that it's gotta be adjusted every now and then. In reference to people going crazy, I think Nich called it too accurately to deny. It's the dumbest of the dumb that I worry about when "god is dead" and there are a lot of them. What I'm saying is that it can be a prescription for the truly dumb shitheads so that the rest of us can live somewhat normally. Sure there will still be shitheads but I think there are less of them when they are distracted with "god".

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>>130749603
>The dog is to the wolf as the ape is to the man, as the man is to God.
>There's a life death rebirth cycle in many things.
What retard? Your dead magic gay Jew made dogs now?

> man is to God.
Man will become God is what you just said. You're a pagan now.

>Cycles
You're a Hindu now

>You anti Christian people are on the death step. Atheists are closer to God than people who believe in cloud beard man (saturn...) Take the next step and find the truth.
What the fuck is wrong with you, dude? Bearded man? That's Jesus. You worship him as the creator of all existence. You worship a fucking kike and the creator. You're a fucking loser! And a backstabber to your people. Athiests are closer to God than who? Saturn? WTF? Is that some more youtube bullshit Jews use to cover for their crimes like "hurr dur illuminati". Keep covering for the Jews you fucking slave cunt

>>130749178
You know Nazi's have private business and big corporations right? Did you fall for the nazis are actually socialists meme ancaps love to pull because they haven't read any economical doctrine

You just can't run a business selling dildos or porn since that corrupts society

>>130749917

It doesn't matter so much about the power that created but more so about morals / ideals that society holds and upholds. The sense of being a part of that and that comes before your race, creed, religion.

That's what religions give over things like Athiesm. Even scientology pushes morals at it's lowest level. Once you go beyond that it's fuckery though.

Agnostics are usually logical and rational, they understand things on a deeper level than most.

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>>130749730
>learn what a hierarchy is you stupid fuck you fell for the equality also does a bad priest means religion is bad? what other things in life you use this retarded logic of your
Equality in Christ? HAHAHHAA.

>BOW DOWN BEFORE THE PEDOPHILE! HE IS THE WAY TO GOD!
>GIVE HIM YOUR CHILDREN AND MONEY

Faggots

>>130749086
>>130749086
>>130749086

You sound like a faggot that works at a factory and think the "boss" is "exploiting" you. Save your money and start your own factory faggot. Next you are going to tell me that you "want a cut of the profits" that's your wage you fucking moron.

>>130750126

Just as there are equally odd phrases in _INSERT FAVORITE BOOK HERE_.

>>130750475
do i look like i give a fuck what the pope does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXKeiTTN7Wc

>>130750636

Yes, you responded that other poster so you do.

>>130750407
>>130750407
>>130750407

I'm not saying they had no businesses before the take over and I'm not saying that they had no business after the take over. I'm saying that they sucked cock at it compared to the Jews.

>>130749482
Are you suggesting a (modern) revised version of the Bible? Am I misunderstanding?

>>130750554
Good goy let me control the economy it's clear that business never exploits people those work and health safety laws are wrong and having children in coal mines is good for society

>>130733080
Congrats on having a revelation that most people had by age 17, brainlet

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>>130750784

Yea, if anyone can get it done and meme it into existence it's 4chan imo.

>>130750702
no not really i dont care what the cuck pope does but why does it have to reflect on all christianity forever cause he is a cuck today also protestants are cucks

>>130733080

Not actually believing in God
> kekistan flag
> makes sense

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>>130750754
Modern capitalism is just as cancerous as Marxism. Pic related

>>130750300
Literally a retarded shill. I'm not concerned for your well being because I know you're just pretending. Thanks for shitting up the board though. I bet you're biologically Jewish.