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If someone attacks you with a knife, what do you do?

>Gun owners could help fight terror attack, says police commissioner

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/12/gunowners-could-help-fight-terror-attack-says-police-commissioner

>After London Attack, British Gun Activists Call For Right To Bear Arms

http://www.vocativ.com/435513/after-london-attack-british-gun-activists-call-for-right-to-bear-arms/

>CarryNow: Firearms United tackles personal defense!
https://www.gunsweek.com/en/current/news/carrynow-firearms-united-tackles-personal-defense

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/06/britain-gun-rights-terror/

>Firearms UK interview: 2 hour 32 mins

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0541frx

>Arming Brtitish citizens on Sunday Politics: 44 mins

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b08tkyw0/sunday-politics-south-west-18062017
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free bump from an american who wants your rights restored. love the lee enfield
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>>130712325

lots of brits dont know that they can own weapons like this, with a bit of effort

i personally think its your duty to go through all the trouble to get your license, it sends a message to the leftists and doesnt let them use a narrative of "well look barely anyone has a license, the only people who own guns are obviously loonies"
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>>130711913
OP im helping you trying to bump your own thread, where the fuck did you go?


post some resources to explain to brits how to get their licenses and stuff
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Nothing will come of this
We will never ever be allowed to carry auto/semis again

Could you imagine how fucked the current puppets would be when they dont go through with brexit and the people could take arms?
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>>130712919

That's a beautiful piece of craftsmanship
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Firearms laws here are confusing, is it possible to legally own anything better than a .22 or a shotgun?
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I'd rather be attacked by a nig nog wielding a knife than a fucking semi auto. It's a bit harder to defend against bullets
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>>130713330
not post ww1 it isnt
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these can also be owned in england. winchster rifle cames in 45 cal and 38 special

pic related
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Oh please. They're about to start cracking down on mean words on the internet, as if they'd ever roll back gun control. Especially as the law as it has been enforced for decades specifically states self defence is not a legitimate reason to own a weapon.
Country's fucked lads.
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>>130713155

I agree it's unlikely- the pubic discourse would be that the guns 'would fall into the wrong hands, imagine how much more damaging the bridge attacks would have been,' etc

However firearms are one of mankinds most significant inventions, and it is an absolute injustice that honest people are denied the right to

1. Enjoy the pleasure of the craftsmanship and tech

and

2. Defend themselves.
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also 22 ruger, it just has to be semi auto or bolt action
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>>130711913
>If someone attacks you with a knife, what do you do?
1. Wish you were American.
2. Ask a real man for help.
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>>130711913
You have my blessing bongs, return to your former glory.
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>>130713912
I've always imagined in any kind of fight I'd probably just kick the guy in the balls. I have long legs, longer than an arm, and I don't think most people expect you to fight so dirty immediately.
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>>130713330
>>130713412
yes it is, plenty of brits do. i dont know the laws exactly off the top of my head but if you ask some people on /k/ they will explain it. i was hoping OP knew his shit and would post a tutorial for people on the process, money costs, and time frame for the licenses.

brits can own just about any rifle as long as its not automatic or semi automatic. bolt action rifles are fine. i think in the UK you can even get suppressors for your rifles easily as well
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>>130713912
>If someone attacks you with a knife, what do you do?

Get arrested for not handing over wallet immediately to tyrone.
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i would like to own a firearm when i reach the age of 30, what loops do you have to jump through in order to own a Lee-Enfield? I am a history teacher and would love to own a piece of British history like that
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>>130714303
>>130714303>>130713206

.303 confirms lads, go get your applications ready!
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Mass stabbings are going to be a regular thing in the UK from now on - will this shift the puplic a bit into thinking 'how the fuck would I defend myself?'.

People seem to think 'save a life, bin that knife' is a solution to inner city muggers - what about terrorists? Could people become more suceptible to freedom?
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>>130714303
I'm off to buy my suppressed Barrett 50.cal with infrared scope.

Might also buy a couple of Model 1887 Shotgun's for when the Barret's range isn't long enough.
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>>130714447
yes because if anything these attacks have shown the authorities are not only too inept, but physically cant protect you

still you have a long way to go before the UK would ever let you carry weapons in the street. i think a good place to start is to make self defense in the home legal again
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>>130714447
Actually, the crime rate has been decreasing for years.
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>>130714447
The state isn't going to allow guns, and it wont even occur to people to ask for them because of years of anti-firearm propaganda.

That the government, in only two small counties, would rather spend £150m on improving armed response than to even let people own a shotgun with more ease is telling.
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>>130714764
Self-Defense in the home is Racist.
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>>130714845
>police don't do anything to stop crimes
>police don't prosecute after the crime
>people stop reporting crime
>"Crime has gone down"
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>>130711913
>>130714303

Applying for a Shotgun Certificate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGYsuD7MTU

Applying for a Firearms Certificate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_AB-9UsV-Y
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the british boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPzgw2Qkl2Q
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>>130713024
>that lee carbine
Is it getting a bit hot here?
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>>130715202
>Is it getting a bit hot here?
Yes...
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>>130714303
fookin yank thinking it knows other cultures i swear on me mam

you cannot own anything other than a shotgun with providing a reason to the police.
you will never get a license for a functioning post ww1 weapon, you will get it deactivated/destroyed.

t. antique weapon dealer
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>>130715202
>>130715202
>Don't worry about us anon, enjoy your night out with the lads, I've got your SMLE to keep me and your little daughter safe tonight
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>>130714058
>I've always imagined in any kind of fight I'd probably just kick the guy in the balls. I have long legs, longer than an arm, and I don't think most people expect you to fight so dirty immediately.
a knife wielding attacker with 8-12' is sufficient grounds for application of lethal force in defense of one's life in America. That mean's somebody pulls a knife and goes for you, you are legally allowed to turn their forehead into a canoe, whether you have a permit or not.

if I live din the UK, since the threat is mostly knives, I'd either buy smuggled or illegal mace or pepper spray, or just make my own. That's far safer and more effective than engaging a knife wielding attaascker unarmed. Then while he's on the ground, detain him by whatever means necessary until the authorities show up.

But make no mistake, any knife-weilding attacker is attempting to murder you under the law, and is placing himself in danger of being lawfully killed on sight in self-defense, by any means necessary or available.
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>>130711913
Start the fire lads.

Also, remember to keep a close eye on Firearms United. They're primarily EU based (and I know you lads are leaving), but as far as I know it is also active in other european countries even now. In a sense we're still in this together, consensus is still going to rule supreme and it's not going to be fun when they start harping about how the EU regulated firearms more and it somehow works (which will be completely unbacked by facts, but that's the nature of the beast).
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>>130712325

That rim lock though :/
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>>130711913
travel to Cambrai , north France and buy a punmpgun from a farmer . any weapon the state has registered is pointless
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brb heading to walmart to pick up some copkiller bullets
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>>130711913
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>I pull their knife out of my body and ram it into their eye as far as it will go, then twist it.
>Now step aside, you weak tard, step aside for the real men.
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>>130715082
That's literally what feminists say about rape.
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>>130714924
>That the government, in only two small counties, would rather spend £150m on improving armed response than to even let people own a shotgun with more ease is telling.
this. there's no reason why anyone in any country except a fucking gulag state should not be allowed to own a pistol-grip pump shotgun for home defense, as long as they don't have a criminal record. a couple rounds of 00-buck will straight fuck up a home invader's whole plan...
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>>130712766
Would love to get a shotgun but have no idea if I even stand a chance getting approved. I live in a block of flats, and have a child in the house, not ideal conditions in the police's eyes i'd imagine, though it would be locked up in a cabinet ofcourse.
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>>130714303
I don't the the cost but you can own any type of shotgun including semi automatic but they have a max of 3 rounds (including 1 chambered) on a shotgun license. For rifles you need a firearm certificate (which is different for some reason) you can have any caliber bolt action but semi autos can only be rim fire .22. You also need 'good reason' which doesn't include self defence, so basically either be part of a club or hunting and this isn't just for the licenses but each gun you get on it. Also all handguns are illegal unless you add a retardedly long barrel and a non removable stock.
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>>130716525
i think as long as you meet their regulations of having the locking containers you are fine. obviously since you have a little one in the house there is incentive for you to comply, the last thing you want on your conscious is an easily preventable accident
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>>130716627
does collecting antique and historical weapons count as a 'good reason'? or target shooting? shouldnt that be enough for a bolt action rifle like an enfield
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>>130712325

Beautiful stock - did you refinish it?

Currently thinking about refinishing my nagant but I am not sure if it is worth the effort
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>>130713403

Cuck, kys.
People like you are what makes Europe shitty
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>>130716910
its not my rifle but that was a post war manufacture, you can find no4 mk2s still in the wrap from the factory for about $1,000

i have refinished stocks though and whether its worth the effort depends. the last thing you want to do is devalue a collectible piece. if your nagant is a common refurb 91-30 with common date, there are millions around so i dont see whats wrong with a light touch up. they were varnished with shellac, so actually refinishing mosins is quite easy. you dont have to completely strip them, if there is enough original shellac you can use a solvent to "melt" the shellac and spread it around the wood again, or you can top it off with some new shellac from the store

you got pics of it? is the wood dented and dinged up or is it just the flaky shellac thats ugly with all the normal chips and scrapes and peeling?
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>>130713403
just think, if you didnt let them into your country in the first place you wouldnt have to defend against them
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>>130716905
They'd tell you to buy a deactivated one most likely. In reality it's pretty corrupt past the more standard shooting clubs and hunting licenses, from what I've been told by people who've gone through it, you need some 'donations' to put down.
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>>130717726
so is the easiest/cheapest thing to do just get a "hunting" license, even though you never plan to actually hunt?

or are there free shooting clubs to participate in? whats the cheapest and easiest route for someone to own an enfield?
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>>130717603
You'd know. 13% of the population and 50% of murders
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>>130713403
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about the rights of law abiding citizens, not criminals.
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>>130716905

Yes, collecting (if you can demonstrate that you are a legitimate collector) is considered 'good reason'.

You won't be allowed to have ammunition or even fire your guns under your certificate conditions, however.

Another thing to look into is the 'miniature rifle range exemption'. Basically if you have your own range for shooting .22lr (like some country homes, pubs, funfairs etc have) you don't need any sort of paperwork to buy and own rifles to use on your gallery as you are specifically exempt very clearly in the Firearms Act.

http://www.guntradenews.com/comment/legal/legal-small-bore-and-the-law/
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>>130717416

No, I seperated the stock from the action and barrel like two weeks ago but just cant get my ass up to start working on it because I know it will be hours of grinding the cosmoline out of this bitch.

I want it to look like that one shown in the first seconds of the nutnfancy video here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf65B3fjjLw

Two years ago I refinished a 100€ G96/11 (Swiss) which was absolutely worth it but those are also not as drenched in disgusting fat and shellac.

My nagant is an M44 made by tula, like my SKS. Both have that dark red-brown stock with shellac on.
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>>130713403
Niggers in Bongistan already have guns retard.
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>>130713155
Even a revolver would be better than nothing dude. Don't be a defeatist.
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>>130718240

Build a garden gallery with sandbags and a little concrete tube. You literally then have a right to walk out of a gunshop with as many .22 ARs as you can carry.

"Section 11(4) of the Firearms Act 1968, which states: “A person conducting or carrying on a miniature rifle range (whether for a rifle club or otherwise) or shooting gallery at which no firearms are used other than air weapons or miniature rifles not exceeding .23 calibre may, without holding a certificate, have in his possession, or purchase or acquire, such miniature rifles and ammunition suitable therefor; and any person may, without holding a certificate, use any such rifle and ammunition at such a range or gallery.”
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>>130714845
Couple of great articles. UK cops have always been dishonest with stat reporting, much like most UK state services.
https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2015/7/21/how-britain-cooks-the-books/
https://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2015/7/17/how-the-uk-covers-up-murder-stats/
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I just really want a mateba.
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>>130718240

You are better off with a good dagger than with that imho for carry
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>>130719224

>have finally the possibility of acquiring a revolver
>not picking a double action Colt made in the early 70s
>picking Mateba abomination instead
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I have a Mosin Nagant but would still use my 1875 Mark 2 Martini Henry, I'll post a pic if anyone cares

>mfw fist sized wounds
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>>130719768

POST IT

I got a pedersoli 1858 two-band Enfield, Parker Hales are so fucking hard to come by in Germany, nobody wants to sell his :<
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>>130712766

Yeah the gun rights in this country are the same as some states in the USA, you can get quite a few things with a category 2 licence.

Plus there are a fucking shitload of ranges around the country where you don't have to do anything, you can turn up and shoot with their guns and they'll teach you how to shoot.

Still I don't care much, you have guns and you never do anything with them. Your government shits on you every day and nothing changes, you have terrorist attack and no one is ever there to shoot them. Guns are just part of America's foundation myth, they don't really contribute much when the whole population is docile.
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>>130719080

Yeah, but what are the zoning rules on a shooting gallery or range?
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>>130717917
They're meant to check and review the license regularly (I think it's every 4 or 5 years) so I'm guessing they'd ask for evidence, shooting clubs are really the easiest as they'll give you a sign in sheet for evidence.
When I looked near me a couple of years ago they were offering £300 for the first year and then £250 each year after but most ranges have limits on the caliber you can use so you'd probably have to live near one.
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I've been talking with Brits, and most of the ones at least in the country talk about America's guns as if they're some magical thing. At a military reenactment I met a veteran, Pat, who told me about his service in Siam (old guy) and all about how they used to shoot.

How do I get involved in an actual movement? Like a campaign or something? I'd love to see more lax laws. Or even just go to the range with some vets.
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>>130720369

It will still be helpful to have a basic understanding of guns when it is time to storm the army barracks
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>>130721131

Seems like the simple start would be go to the range, get to know people, start up a club to go shooting, start recruiting people to join in. After a while you can start chapters, etc.
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>>130720369

>went to my local gun club's website
>due to current high demand, we are not accepting applications to join

>mfw
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>>130721333
At this point I'm considering talking to the NRA and asking them. The only gun rights groups here (listed by OP) have like 1500 likes on Facebook and post shit memes.
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>>130721522

>not becoming a hunter
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>>130720369
>when the whole population is docile
Important caveat. One is up Shit Creek if they're nogunz when the population is not docile.
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>>130720369
>Guns are just part of America's foundation myth, they don't really contribute much when the whole population is docile.
Tis is 100% horseshit. More criminals are killed in self defense than the other way around, but no one ever reports on that.
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>>130711913
They legalised pinfires the other month. Now you don't need a license to own a working pinfire revolver.

not that you'll get ammo for it.
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>>130721559

Unfortunately you won't be able to shitpost your way to gun freedom, gotta convince people through charisma and activities. Basically community involvement, get people together, have meetings, volunteer to help the community, etc. This promotes a good image and helps bring people to your cause, catch more flies with honey and all that.
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>>130721907

That does not count in gang shootings though
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>>130721907

Those stats include police shootings, suicides, etc, which comprise the bulk of the shootings. Those stats are then misused to pretend that everyone is just taking down criminals randomly in the streets hourly. I own guns and like to shoot, but stop misrepresenting facts, it is retarded.
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As desperation sets in for the BritCucks...
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>>130723068

The irony is that this very conflict led to the current Britain
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>>130717956
oh i know, im just saying you guys are in a unique position to stop it as the importation is happening. we have to live with the mistakes of our ancestors 200 years ago
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>>130713403
>If we make guns illegal, criminals will stop using them!
>It's not like they wanna break the law, right? :^)
Top Cuck
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>>130718240
interesting, so basically make your own little range and you can at least have a ruger 10/22? fuck if its that or a knife for self defense, i would take the .22 rifle all day
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The UK NRA is the only group I can find, but they never have conferences or rallies, they just have shooting competitions. Why can't the UK be more like America?
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>>130724498

Try Firearms United
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>>130724498
>Why can't the UK be more like America?

This is why my ancestors moved out of the UK and to America...
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>>130718594
the cosmoline is a fucking bitch to remove if you dont do it the right way. if you do it the right way, its a piece of cake. ill tell you what has worked well for me

1) bring some water to a boil
2) get a shitty container that can hold hot water which you dont mind throwing away
3) put all the small parts, like the pins, springs, disassembled bolt pieces, screws into the little container
4) wait til the boiling water cools a tiny bit so its not boiling but still very hot, then pour it in to the container with all the small parts
5) let that sit for a few minutes
6) fish out parts with a spoon or something and wipe them down with a rag, the cosmoline should be mostly dissolved in the water but thick globs on your parts will wipe away very easily
7) go outside or over a bucket (not your fucking sink or in house plumbing) and pour the hot water into the barrel of the action and all inside and around it
8) the shit should just flow away, wipe whatever doesnt with a rag and keep cleaning with hot water
9) your shit should dry up really fast because the water and metal will be really hot. now just oil it in every crevice with gun oil
10) the wood is the most annoying part, dont use hot water here.
11) wrap wood in paper towels and put in a black garbage bag. its summer now, think of the hottest place available to you (trunk of car, outside back yard in sun, shed, etc) and put it there
12) wait an hour or so, check the wood. wipe down all the oozing melted cosmoline. wrap papertowel around it again and put it back in the bag and hot place. do this until it stops oozing lots of cosmoline

thats it, then you can use mineral spirits on a rag or some shellac from the store and touch up the wood on the stock. if you want to actually make it look brand new, strip everything to bare wood using paint stripper, use steam to pop up any dents, sand it lightly with 120grit sand paper then 220 grit, then apply stain/oil for color, and shellac on top. i like natural oil
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For those unfamiliar with UK gun regulations
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>>130722778
>suicides count as lawful self defense
You're retarded. If anything those would count against it, not for.
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>>130711913
deus vult and get guns back!
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The first step is to realize that the UK government and police are NOT on your side at all...
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>>130720369>>130720369
>Still I don't care much, you have guns and you never do anything with them

what the fuck kind of cuck world do you live in? i shouldnt even dignify your retardation with a response but jesus fucking christ i hope you are trolling. americans use guns every day to keep themselves safe

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/29/80-year-woman-shoots-and-kills-young-intruder-after-he-stabs-her-husband/?utm_term=.08ad1e28b3c8

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/georgia-inmates-manhunt-capture/index.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3112898/bystander-shoots-dead-suspect-attacking-police-officer-florida-video/
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>>130725753

>https://washingtonpost com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/04/29/80-year-woman-shoots-and-kills-young-intruder-after-he-stabs-her-husband/?utm_term=.08ad1e28b3c8
https://archive.is/NoueA
>http://cnn com/2017/06/16/us/georgia-inmates-manhunt-capture/index.html
https://archive.is/BCt2B
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>>130725688

This, those fucking traitors should be the first to hang.
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>>130725373
You can't just say it's legal and leave out all the ceveats and limitations behind it.

Set your flag back, I want to see where you're from because I bet it's Canada.
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>>130725263

That orderly list motivated me to do it tomorrow.
I already tired it with the bag though, the result was meh and it was like 37°C outside, so pretty hot.
I think I will try it with a heat gun, grind the shellac off, heat gun again and thon put some degreaser on it and wipe it off. If thats not enough that ugly russian trashstick can go fuck itself.
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>>130711913
a 17 year old tried mugging me with a knife once, didnt get anything but it
forced me, a law abbiding citizen to break the law and carry a knife around with me. caught up with the guy month later. took his knife and broke both the kids arms... its crazy a law abiding citizen is put at the mercy of scumbag street rats for their whole lives...
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>>130726058

*tried
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>>130725688
jesus you have them all in one spot like that and instead of marching them to a prison camp you protect them with full (unarmed) police escort
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The muslim negro Obama tried to do the same shit in the USA...
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>>130725802
right thanks, i only recently learned how to archive and keep forgetting to do it. fuck giving CNN clicks
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>>130711913
Buying a Glock 20 this weekend.
How does that make Brits feel?
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>>130726058
>>130726058
>>130726058
heat gun will work, i was going to suggest that as well but the post wouldnt let me add more characters it was already full.

denatured alcohol will dissolve and remove the shellac very quickly, then you can use some degreasing soap and water to wash the gripe off the outside of the stock and raise up the wood fibers for oil absorbtion and sanding

ive done probably about a dozen stocks/rifles using this method with minor variances depending on finish and rifle

just be careful about the wood stamped cartouches, getting them wet or sanding them will destroy them
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>>130726457
Brits are so cucked and defeated now that they have lost the ability to feel anything...
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>>130726081
nice, i bet the little faggot thinks twice now before acting like a little shit. probably no parents or shitty ones who approve of his faggotry and have the same mentality of stealing shit
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>>130715478
disgusting
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>>130726457

>Don't be a schmuck, bin that Glock
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>>130711913
LEE SPEED IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD! MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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YOU DONT NEED A GUN https://youtu.be/ZXqKWL6Sgzo
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>>130718240
>>130724010

They have even cucked the 22lr there now...
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>>130726836
that aint true pal

stop forming your world views from /pol/
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>>130726778

Thanks, what kind of wax do you think nutnfancy used for that nagant shown first in the video?
I like it a lot.

Also playing with the thought to cerakote the barrel, fixed mag etc in olive drab. I think that would look pretty cool with a lighter, refinished stock. Would probably cost me more than the whole rifle though
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>>130727422

Or the BBC....
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>>130726955
yeah it pissed me off he was willing to cut me. when i caught him i told him how he could have killed me by trying to act like a gangster. and then i broke his arms and he was screaming, i got my knife out and he was crying so i think i ot my point across. i when through my whole life never putting a knife to someone so its a fair punishment in my eyes. and took his drugs so he could not call police...
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The UK government takes away the people's guns so a little girl can feel safe.....
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>>130727621

*teleports behind you*

>nuthin non oil related, kiddo
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L...lads can I own a working replica of the rifle from Boer and Zulu wars
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>>130728468

AFAIK there are no replicas of that gun, you could own the original though.
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>>130728468

lol.... You can't even own many comic books in the UK....
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>>130727077
LEE ENFEILD IN EVERY HOUSE HOLD! This is what I had in mind, I was going to apply for my licence in a month or so.

https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/bsa/bolt-action/303/lee-speed-170616094011009

https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/bsa/bolt-action/303/lee-speed-no-2-pattern-170531055200690

http://www.gunstar.co.uk/bsa-lee-speed-bolt-action-303-rifles/rifles/758899

https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/lang-joseph/martini/360/170323150346009

https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/rifles/london-small-arms/martini/450-577/mk2-henry-160427123713001
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>>130728468
You can own the originals, you can buy a Henery Martini, I linked a few in them in my comment above.
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>>130728794

Is this real? This cant be real
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>>130729025

LOL....

Why do you thing all they white people ran away and gave the UK to the muslims.
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>>130729025
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>>130728794

>literally has a child on the box
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>>130729165
>>130729362

This level of cuckery is even unheard of in Goymany

At least I could buy a makarov for only 100€

https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/kurzwaffen~pistolen_kal_9_mm/gqhd5e0a_makarov-pm.html?s=1&s_t=makarov&o=neu
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I see they still march in straight lines....
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>>130726986
shorter?

>>130727169
lol
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I know UK allows black powder revolvers. What would be the regulation for getting one be? I'd assume it's not too different from the FAC. And yes, you can have these shipped to your door with no paperwork what so ever In most states here.
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The United States sill has not paid you Brits for your 250 year over due tea tax...

Hahhahahahaahhahaaaaa!!!
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>>130728920
make it happen!
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>>130711913
Beating a dead horse. The guns are gone and they aren't coming back.
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>>130729700
It's about cooking the books.

"Look at all these weapons we've taken off the streets!" they say after taking someone's bicycle wheel.
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>>130730699
lol ive never actually considered that until just now. we are truly colonial niggers
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>>130730699
no problem it wasnt our tea to begin with
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>>130730818
>The guns are gone and they aren't coming back.

Oh... The guns WILL be back...

And at least the new muslim rulers know what to do with unarmed useless cucks...
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>>130730818
you can still get some now, even with all the restrictions. its your responsibility to do so


running out of enfield pics but im going to keep it british related
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>>130730700
>>130730912


That is neat. How is it called?

>>130730889

Gun laws obivously do not work. In Germany we got 6 Million legal guns and about 20 million illegal ones, including landmines, RPGs, granades, machine guns etc.

So the legal to illegal ratio is almost 1:4
Only the law abiding get fucked
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>>130731293
The guns will be back in Muslim hands.
>>130731312
Yeah, you have to fill mountains of paper work out and you probably get put on the watchlist straight away.
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>>130731312

Could buy this semi auto only BREN for 2.900€ right now... gonna keep strong hands though because the money is actually intended for a Benelli M4

https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~selbstladebuechsen/sp1c21w4_enfield-bren_mki__sg30.html?s=1&s_t=BREN&o=preis_d
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>>130731293
The thing is, our police are so cucked that I bet if a non-white was refused a license and then cried racism he'd get it granted.

But really, having the muslims with guns and the people without is a great thing for the r-types.
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>>130731293
does anyone else wonder why they dont just all scatter and run in different directions? i mean wtf at least you have a better chance than lying face first in the dirt
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>>130731333
The point I was making is that by "taking these weapons" they make it look as if they're doing something, because they're too cowardly to actually go where there's real weapons.
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>>130731521
>Yeah, you have to fill mountains of paper work out and you probably get put on the watchlist straight away.

What could possibly go wrong....
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>>130713517
This is what i would get if i was a bong
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>>130731817

Because they are well trained cucks...
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>>130731629
you know i always meant to ask a german what the laws on owning old mausers and such are like?

i know you guys have laws against anything with the nazi symbol, how does that work with guns that have stamps with waffenampts and war eagles holding a swastika?

on the one hand i would assume mausers are common there because of the location and heritage, but on the other im not sure because of all the anti-nazi post ww2 laws
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>>130732025
This is prime r-selection. Prime yourself to the possible conqueror, in order to thin the herd of the in-group K-types.
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>>130731908

I know, same here. Thats why there are 20 million real illegal guns in Germany.
When the police raids the house of some neonazi they always display a blow gun or some air rifle of his as dangerous arms that are finally being taken off the streets.

Since normies and cucks can't spot the difference they eat it.
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>>130732197

Getting on the boats, or the trains to the death camps, is all the same type of training...
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>>130732163

*Waffenamt

No they are totally fine since they are official state symbols of the time and actually a proof mark.
Waffenamt stamps are not accepted as proofmark though and every original wehrmacht mauser had to get the civilian proof stamp as well. Civilian mausers of that time didnt have to get a new stamp.

Bundeswehr cucks removed the Waffenamt stamps though because muh evil nazi tradition and they feared it could offend some israeli minister back in the 80s or 90s.
(talking of the Wachbatallion here which still uses the Kar98k)
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>>130731333
>That is neat. How is it called?
im not sure if those are originals in the pic, probably reproductions since the originals are so rare but the original rifle was made for british commandos, mostly to shoot guard dogs i believe. it shoots the pistol caliber 45 acp and takes 1911 magazines. to get one today is pretty much going to be a custom job for a gunsmith. probably easier for you in germany since i believe you guys dont regulate suppressors right? they are just seen as accessories for guns?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lisle_carbine
theres a couple companies that i know of that sell conversion kits

http://www.troupsystems.com/Enfield/enfield.htm
http://specialinterestarms.com/index.php?page=enfield_conversions
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>>130731333
Lee Enfield Delisle Carbine.

Essentially a step up from the welrod.
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>>130732964

Nope. Suppressors need the same permission as the gun they are intended for.
Only hunters and only in some states get the approval for suppressors. Sadly.

I want on on my 10/22 though
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>>130725373

I would get a 30-06 bolt rifle and a pump 12ga shotgun. Don't let them get close enough to need a handgun.
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>>130733428

They look pretty cute desu but their usefulness stands in no comparison to the cost.
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>>130732831
thanks. i am a huge fan of the mauser rifle, probably my favorite to collect. i have a few german ones in original condition, one is a prewar with the weimar acceptance eagles and the others are war period with swastika holding eagles stamped on the side, as well as on the stock cartouche. i also have a couple of cheaper russian captured k98s with the markings scrubbed for the same reason as the bundeswehr i imagine. they are amazing rifles, do you have any? if not, i highly recommend you pick one up if you ever get the chance. they sure hurt your shoulder though, very stout cartridge for such a slender and light carbine. every time i shoot them at the range i wonder how the boys and men did it for hundreds of rounds in battles. men were definitely manlier back then

any chance you know how much an authentic german one goes for over there? with matching serials, original condition stock, and maybe decent bore and bluing? what about a sniper variant? the sniper variants here are prohibitively expensive, they are very rare and easily fetch over $10,000 and as much as $30,000 depending on make and model and condition
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>>130733669

For defense suppressors are useless.

You want the fuckers to know they are going to die and everyone else with a few miles too.
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>>130733669
>>130727589
i just watched the nutnfancy video, the finish on his looks exactly like the tung oil finish i used on one. definitely not shellac. it looks like he cleaned up his stock of dirt and grease, sanded it.

ok sorry i just watched the whole video, its not a wax at all he used. the brand is called minwax, but it is a polyurethane finish. i refinished a mosin with that as well, it is water proof, it takes away from the "natural" feel of the wood though. it makes it very hard feeling, no wood pores exposed. and it can be glossy if you put a few coats on, or dull matte if you do just one or two coats and buff it down lightly with steel wool. its probably the best way to protect the wood, but also ruins the collector value since its a bit more permanent of a treatment. if you dont plan to sell the gun and its not a high value gun, and you like the way it looks i see no issues with using it. i used it on a $100 mosin and was very happy with how it came out. wish i had pics of it to show you

once you get your german collection down, if you get a chance look into more swiss rifles like the 9611 you mentioned. man they are great guns
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>>130734164

I like suppressed .22s though. It is double the fun

>>130733968

I bought a Russian capture one last year for like 230€ but sent it back because the rear sights were canted. I know how to fix that (gotta heat that part up carefully and shift that metal band on which they sit to level) but I didnt have the time. It had all the swastika markings still on it though.

I am pretty jealous of that tfb tv faggot who got an SA stamped Kar98k (stock) because my great grandfather was an SA officer.

uhm wait let me look the prices up right now. Last time I checked an original German one was about 800-1000€ I think
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>>130713155
>posting farage and not being an optimist
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>>130734876
>>130734876
>Last time I checked an original German one was about 800-1000€ I think
oh wow, thats actually about what they go for here in USA. i thought they would be much less there for some reason.

$800 will get you a non bolt matching authentic german K98 in decent shape, $1000-1200 for all matching common makers and years like BYF43, and up to $2,000 and up to $10,000 and higher depending on factory codes and rare markings (like SA or SS)
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>>130735324
>>130734876
why is german engineering the best?
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I'm up for this.

We need a fucking constitution too, Free Speech must be cemented in this country to save it.
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>>130711913
As a burger who is pro gun I hope you guys can get your gun rights back.


Contrary to popular belief, you can own guns in the UK but it's pretty draconian. Uk faggots please watch this video

https://youtu.be/hRKIDk_bj78


Maybe you'll learn how to get a gun to protect yourself from these ALOHA SNACK BAR mudslimes
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>>130735706
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>>130735706

There is only one way your are going to get it...
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>>130735324
>>130735422

So that is an original k98 but with a replika scope
goes for 1200

https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/ordonnanzwaffen~deutschland/k3930g60_karabiner_k98_8x57_is_als_scharfschuetzengewehr_mit_swept-back__und_zf4-.html?s=1&o=preis_d

Regular original G98 go for like 600-700€

>>130734768

Well I was not talking about the gun he actually works on but the other nagant that is first shown in the video, I think it actually looks better, has more character.

I own a G 96/11 already, it is 117 years old and only cost me 100€. The bore is perfect and looks almost new.

>>130735422

Idk man, I don't want to boast about it but I love German designs as well. Most are flawless, and if they have flaws they are due too autistic overengineering which is kinda cute.
My granddad has a PPK
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>>130735886
I'm sickened by what's happening to my country.

The police work against the people, they protect muslims, they cover up rapes done by muslims, they are enemies of the people.

They cannot be trusted to keep the British Citizenry safe anymore; they are worse than useless, they work against us.
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Tis no trifle, unbin that rifle
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>>130735926
At this point, i'd be happy if we joined with the USA; better than dying to a flood of Islamic terror, apathetic police defending them, and disgustingly out of touch politicians either pushing communism or reading 1984 as some kind of guide to fucking rule...
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>>130735706

We have a constitution you nonce.

God, these threads really do project American insecurity.
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>>130736621
a US-style constitution.

With free speech and self-defence at the very top of the list.
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>>130736845

Why bother? The US constitution gets trampled on every day.

We also have both of those things, you meat to say 'the right to bear arms' since we already can defend ourselves.
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>>130736063
>due too autistic overengineering
i think thats where my love of it comes from. everything they make is always built right. they dont cut corners and if it costs more so be it they fucking make it how its supposed to be made. and every little detail is thought out. i have watched many documentaries on the V2 rocket development program, its just insane how they were able to make even a guidance system with ww2 era technology, let alone the hundreds of nozzles and pipes of the engine. same with the uboats, every detail served a function and purpose. i honestly think thats why they lost the war, they valued quality above quantity and couldnt compromise to just "acceptable quality for duty". they had to make it over the top amazing, and therefore couldnt mass produce enough tanks, planes, weapons, etc

pic related, best subgun of the war
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>>130736845
>and self-defence at the very top of the list.

18-1-704.5. Use of deadly physical force against an intruder

(1) The general assembly hereby recognizes that the citizens of Colorado have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.

(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of section 18-1-704, any occupant of a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including deadly physical force, against another person when that other person has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable belief that such other person has committed a crime in the dwelling in addition to the uninvited entry, or is committing or intends to commit a crime against a person or property in addition to the uninvited entry, and when the occupant reasonably believes that such other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant.

(3) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from criminal prosecution for the use of such force.

(4) Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including deadly physical force, in accordance with the provisions of subsection (2) of this section shall be immune from any civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the use of such force.
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>>130736845
>>130737132

Constitutions mean shit if they are not upheld.

I think it was Jefferson (or Franklin?) who said that a country needs a little revolution every 25 years to keep it in the right direction.
Since we did not have a revolution for a long time now the next one wont be just a little one.
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>>130737132
Just today they ruled that "Hate Speech" falls under free speech and is completely and utterly legal.

Meanwhile here in the UK and europe...

Mate, you're talking out your ass and you need to let go of that tired old "The USA is the worst" meme.

They aren't the ones protecting Islamic barbarians and holding pathetic cucked out vigils every time a mudslime commits mass murder, to the theme tune of fucking 'don't look back in anger'... was almost sick in my mouth when these ultra normies made that the fucking tune of the cuck movement.
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>>130737468

>They valued quality above quantity

That is the German way, we can't help ourselves. I am not kidding when I tell you that if something in the house is not rightly done I can't sleep over it and have to fix it properly asap. Living with workarounds permanently would absolutely disgust me.

Doing something for its own sake is an inherently Germanic trait. This grants peaceful and orderly societies.
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>>130737623
>German

Great, it's the cunt holding open the gate.

Each and every one of these deaths is on your hands, Germany.
You bunch of Islamophilic cucks.
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>>130737991

The US is as cucked as Europe is just in a different way.

t. Somebody who lived there for almost half of his life
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>>130738138
>This grants peaceful and orderly societies.
Yeah, so peaceful and orderly these days...
With Muslim rape gangs roving your streets and a terror attack every other month.

It's fine if you want to commit cultural country-wide suicide, but did you have to drag the entire rest of Europe down with you?
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>>130738154

>hiding behind le deus vult flag
>impotent rage
>Breitbart tier understanding if history and politics

hello r_td
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>>130738382
>The US is as cucked as Europe is just in a different way.

In a way that is avoiding Islam; the most cancerous ideology on the face of the planet.
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>>130737991

The USA is the same country that can detain people without trail on a black-site located, the same country that has a police force better armed than most other nations army.

Oh and the USA frequently does for black what we do for Muslims, the whole West has a huge guilt complex.

I don't hate the USA in any form, I think they have the potential to be one of the best countries in the world, just as all the Anglo counties do.

The thing is though I said potential, take your rose tinted glasses off and look at how America operates and not the values it projects. I think it's you who needs to get over this unconditional love for the USA just because you can buy a few toys and take them to a shooting range.
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>>130738538
>hiding.

I've made it very clear I'm British.

I'm just first and foremost a Western chauvinist.
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>>130738657
And how many citizens are detained that aren't Islamic madmen?
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>>130738382
>The US is as cucked as Europe
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>>130711913
BUMP.

And yeah fuck you for taking our guns from us.
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>>130738661

>western chauvinist

kek, what is that supposed to be? The "West" as it is defined after WW2 is a jewish invention.
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>>130711913
Start by lobbying for handguns for female protection. Why would they argue against women defending themselves?
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>>130738855

>not citing the full quote

Like liberals do with the second amendment, eh?
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>>130739107

:)
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>>130711913
put the rifle in front of the text, get rid of the mirror thing, and remove the gloss

your logo won't age well
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>>130734164

That's stupid noguns logic anon.

Suppressed weapons (with a few exceptions) are still loud as fuck, the difference is whether or not you deafen yourself (reducing combat effectiveness) or don't deafen yourself
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>>130739357

If you want to be quiet, use the knife...
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>>130739050

The West after WW2 (and before that) has been the leader in technology, education, scientific discovery, space exploration, economic power, charity, promotion of freedoms, and promotion of stoicism.

Being a Western Chauvinist means i fully support this direction, and wish to fight against the forces looking to undermine it (Islam, far-leftist dogma, communism, identity politics, deterioration of western tradition)
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>>130738839

Fucking kek.

One minute he's espousing a written constitution and the next he's defending the detention of American citizens because currently none of them are white.

I've made my point.
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>>130738382
this is why Trump was such a huge victory for us. just yesterday a study was published which shows indeed as many as 5 and a half million non citizens voted in our election
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/

hillary "won" the popular vote by about 3 million. so you can see how these illegals which the dems have been shuttling in and offering 'refugee' status the last 8 years have been affecting our elections

its ridiculous that no form of ID is needed to vote in most states of america, and every attempt at making some sort of protection for this has been sued and overturned by liberal judges

i really believe if Trump hadnt won this last election, wed be done for and on our way to europetier cucked with no hope of ever swaying back. illegal immigration has already dropped exponentially since Trumps election and we havent even put up a real wall yet. they just stopped coming over the border because they know the preferential treatment, plane rides across the country to any destination of their choosing, and taxpayer funded hotels are being stopped and if they get caught they are being sent straight back so it snot worth the trouble for them to try anymore

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/9/illegal-immigration-southwest-border-down-70-pct/

i dont think the battle with radical leftism will ever be finished, and maybe globalization and the whole world becoming one country is inevitable but fuck it we will put up a fight
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>>130739615

So youare fine with high IQ-non European migrants?
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>>130739023
>COLONIZED
lol, at least you were one of the first to learn english and western culture and can integrate with the first world better than any other country from that region

ps i have an indian rifle made in ishapore
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>>130739617
This has nothing to do with race.

Islam is not a race you drooling dunce.
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>>130739702

I rooted for Trump as well I wish he was more radical though.

On the other hand I think with Hillary you would have gotten faster to the breaking point and have a real cleansing to make a clean cut and start anew
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>>130739895
Of course.

So long as they are coming to Europe/The UK in order to become culturally European/British.

Multiculturalism works when it's tied in with capitalism (e.g. selling exotic dishes), not because capitalism makes it work, but because the nature of capitalism helps to highlight the parts of the culture that do work/are ready to be assimilated by the reigning culture.
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>>130739606

Again anon, you are using no guns logic, a suppressor in a home defense scenario isn't to be quiet, it's to prevent hearing damage

If you can't hear, you aren't aware, if you aren't aware you are vulnerable.
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A blast from the past...
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>>130740191

BASED (((CIVIC NATIONALISM)))
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>>130740481

Fuck me...

> Multiculturalism works

100% American hero.
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>>130712243
Lee enfields are allowed in the UK.
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>>130713155
Because you need a semi to defend yourself.
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>>130713330
You can own a bolt action of any caliber.
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Maybe a big ass revolver...
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>>130740324
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>>130740648
can you imagine the headlines and outrage today?

>BRITISH ROYALTY CONDONING GUN VIOLENCE!!!
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>>130740821
>>130740821
i know, i was hoping some british posters with them would help other UK anons out by explaining the process to get them. a couple guys posted helpful advice above, if anyone british is just tuning in
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>>130740481

You are just picking a bit slower death over a quick death.

As long as you are inclusive you keep diluting yourself till you are not yourself anymore.
Why would you more immigration instead of more British births?

>>130741259

Hotchkiss?
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Although any gun is better than no gun...

.22 is a very light caliber to use for self defense.
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>>130741451
>can you imagine the headlines and outrage today?
>BRITISH ROYALTY CONDONING GUN VIOLENCE!!!

I don't think the queen gives a shit...
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Buy a Lee Enfield, go inna woods.
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>>130741575

hnnggg

pic related is on my list as well.

But look at the price

https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~selbstladebuechsen/1d626ahr_schwaben_arms_gmbh-selbstladebuechse_sar_m41_nachsuche_kaliber_308win_-_made_in_germany_-.html?s=1&s_t=Nachsuche&o=preis_d
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>>130741581
>Hotchkiss?
i have no idea honestly, looks like a captured british tank and hes probably laughing at how shitty it is on the inside. i like collecting historical pics. here is a captured american p38 plane i think
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>>130741823
hahahaha awesome!!!
>>130741698
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/05/01/alabama_boy_shoots_burglar_mocks_him_for_crying_like_a_little_baby.html
https://youtu.be/clW2jtv6qFc
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>>130714303
You need a license for any rifle more powerful that 12 ft/lbs, otherwise you'll end up serving a long stretch
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>>130741978

Yeah could be British. What a trashcan. We used pic related though.
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>>130741977
>https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~selbstladebuechsen/1d626ahr_schwaben_arms_gmbh-selbstladebuechse_sar_m41_nachsuche_kaliber_308win_-_made_in_germany_-.html?s=1&s_t=Nachsuche&o=preis_d
i owned an american made version of that for a while, it was shitty (due to being american made) and i sold it. because of the import restrictions and bill clinton era bans, a lot of those were sold as parts here in america and companies rebuilt them up themselves to resell as complete rifles, and most of them are shitty for that reason. im sure the actual german originals are amazing. definitely a fun gun to shoot though. do you ever go on /k/ anon?
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>>130738138
>>Germans value quality above quantity
Not with their immigrants, that's for sure.
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>>130741581
>>130741978

It's a renault FT
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>>130742335

Britz are definitely not allowed to have a better rifle than we Americans could run over to the gun shop and buy tonight.
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>>130742731

>fuel has to be literate and university educated

sounds inefficient to me

>>130742666

The one I posted is brand new. The company Schwaben (Swabian) Arms produces them again.
They also make brandnew Kar98k's.
And Uzis.

https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~repetierer/eqh74970_schwaben_arms_gmbh--_neuer_herstellung_-_repetierbuechse_sar_k98k_sportmatch_im_kaliber_308win_aehnlich_mauser_k98k.html?s=1&s_t=Schwaben%20arms&o=preis_d

Look into this.

I am rarely on /k/ unless I need some weird reloading data.
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>>130742335
right, but if you guys could help the fellow brits with what type of licesnse and how to get it that would be great
>>130742573
lol. i dont think there was any soldier from any country who didnt shit their pants a bit when they heard one of these rumbling around the corner in ww2
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>>130711913
Good for you lads.
A armed society is a polite society.
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>>130713403
The fucking criminal won't be able to get a gun you fucking mong.
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>>130742876
jesus its a french tank? no wonder hes laughing its probably a leftover from ww1
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>>130742953
Sad!
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Suck my dick britbongers I wish this fucker cut everyone of you cucks in half 39-44
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>>130743926
>The fucking criminal won't be able to get a gun

What part of criminal don't you understand...
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>>130743926
not to mention since when do street nogs run around with 4 foot long lee enfields?
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>>130744272
I'm all for letting the chavs and pakis have guns.
Why can't people understand that having an armed populace makes us safer.
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>>130711913
I hope all citizens of the UK can enjoy center fire semiautomatic rifles without cumbersome bureaucracy
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>>130744235

FA?

>>130744124

Progress don't stifle, better bin that rifle
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Roight oh laddies, if any muzzie comes around my flat I'll shoot em roighty toighty and the constable won't suspect a thing.
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>>130741581
>You are just picking a bit slower death over a quick death.

First off, everything dies.

Secondly, dilution will happen, it's unavoidable - the point is to maintain the core integirty of the society despite minor demographic changes.

Your dreams of an everlasting ethnic culture are akin to someone expecting ice not to melt, or cliffs not to erode.
And by putting your focus on the superficial (physical bodies) over the ethereal (culture/memes/ideologies), you doom the spirit of the people you wish to preserve.

Greece is no longer an empire, yet their enlightened philosophies and ideas live on; because they were objectively good and objectively useful.
They helped mutate lesser cultures into something greater.

Once upon a time, the British were nothing but a band of mud-hut dwelling savages; only when the Romans colonised us and introduced us to advanced thinking and technology were we augmented enough to become a superpower (that eventually became the largest empire in earth's history).

This is the power of pervasive objectively good culture.

Race is unimportant - one day, in the very far future, humans won't exist at all, just as the ancestor we evolved from no longer exists.
Only ideas can be immortal.
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>>130744620
>FA
14/88
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>>130744235
they didnt have 7.62 nato in 39-44 and nato didnt exist yet
>>130743926
at least make it so its way easier to obtain bolt action rifles for the sport of target shooting. criminals overwhelmingly use handguns for obvious reasons, even here in america where AK47s are easy to buy. the so called "assault weapons" account for a minute fraction of use in crime, less than common household objects like pipes or hammers and significantly less than bladed weapons like knives
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>>130713403
Today there was a drive-by shooting in London and four guys in Wales got arrested for having guns on them (1.5 miles away from Pontyclun). What you'd rather have is irrelevant.
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>>130744952
>they didnt have 7.62 nato in 39-44 and nato didnt exist yet
Shhhhhh, im trying to shitpost
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>>130744634
oi ya cheeki wanker thats a yank gun have some patriotism for fuck sake
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>>130711913
Burger from burgerland here.

What I really want next:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jen2m-pmbmI
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>>130745135
im autistic as you can tell
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>>130745175
lol, the type of gun that has zero practicality and 100% funtality. even he cant hit shit 7 yards in front of him lol. looks fun as fuck though
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>>130730699
And we've still not paid the brown folk we forced to grow it
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>>130744744

Nice. When will you let me shoot it?

>>130744641

>First off, everything dies.

Yeah. And everything is reborn. That is why if you want to protect a certain species you encourage it to have its own offspring and not replace it with another species.

The rest of your posts read like kike drivel. You have shown your face.

>Race is unimportant -
"BASED"

lol!
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>>130745175

Jesus want you to get that!

Looks Hella fun!!!
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>>130745274

Did you look into that Kar98? >>130743351
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>>130745579
>Nice. When will you let me shoot it?
How aryan are you?
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>>130745165
Keep talkin ya wanker, I got a couple of dees planted around me flat.
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>>130746120

100% Pure Bavarian Phenotype
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>>130746120

Also isn't that the flag of that Afrikaaner organisation? Wasn't they leader murdered by a nigger a couple of years ago?
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>>130745475
>lol, the type of gun that has zero practicality and 100% funtality. even he cant hit shit 7 yards in front of him lol. looks fun as fuck though

>>130745614
>Jesus want you to get that!
>Looks Hella fun!!!

Exactamundo! (Glock Jesus saved. :)
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>>130745165
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>>130746286
reported, faggot. enjoy jail.
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>>130745579
>That is why if you want to protect a certain species you encourage it to have its own offspring and not replace it with another species.

Explain to me your definition of a species.

>The rest of your posts read like kike drivel.
Shouldn't you have your Nazi flag turned on, Hanz?
But no, seriously.
I just see the bigger picture, and you with your special german autism do not.

Humans already ethnically cleansed all the non humans off the face of the earth, now we're alone with each other.

The only thing that can compete within us now are memes, not genes. Culture, ideas, philosophy.
These are the battles still left to be fought, these are the things evolution will change, kill and promote.

Culture is more important than your pathetic race games, because a race by itself, with no culture, is just life.
And life all by itself is pointless; it is ideas, it's culture that gives purpose.

Life not lived is no life at all, and preserving something just for the sake of preservation itself is a waste of time.

But by all means, continue to dismiss everything I'm saying on the basis of your dank 'kike' memes. Or maybe I'm a 'good goy' or whatever other intellectually bankrupt dismissals of argument you have in that soundboard you call a mind.

I pity you that your points are so weak/that you believe in them so little that you won't even attempt to argue for them properly, and instead attempt conversational shut-downs.
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>>130746385
>100% Pure Bavarian Phenotype
0.0001% Irish, deinied
>>130746535
Ja, AWB
>tfw no awb flag
>>130746782
FREE SLOBODAN
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>>130715951
I've never once had Rimlock in any Enfield. Or really, any gun that uses rimmed cartridges because I'm not an idiot. If you load the stripper clips right it won't happen and even if you did the Enfield's magazine is pretty well designed to the point that if you had rimlock you can just push down on the rounds and the magazine will pop them in the correct position.

Here's a bump for ya Britfags to get your rights back
>even if French guns are better
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>>130746878

>Culture is more important than your pathetic race games, because a race by itself, with no culture, is just life.

hmmm

>yes goyim, you are all the same, just mix up, you got nothing to lose hehe

really made me think
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>>130745838
>https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~repetierer/eqh74970_schwaben_arms_gmbh--_neuer_herstellung_-_repetierbuechse_sar_k98k_sportmatch_im_kaliber_308win_aehnlich_mauser_k98k.html?s=1&s_t=Schwaben%20arms&o=preis_d
i just did, wow all i can say is that thing is beautiful. look at that thick bluing. absolutely amazing, i wish there was a way to get one here. i will have to look into it, but i doubt they import them here
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>>130716910
>Currently thinking about refinishing my nagant
Don't. Don't fuck with collectables.
>>130718594
>Two years ago I refinished a 100€ G96/11 (Swiss) which was absolutely worth it but those are also not as drenched in disgusting fat and shellac.
Stahp.
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>>130747438

It happens sometimes with Nagants even if you load the clips right. Rimmed cartridges are just shit in comparison to rimless ones.

>>130747017

Aber bitte
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>>130728468
Martinis are fucking cheap as fuck. $400 for one to restore.
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>>130711913
The truest of redpills us firearm ownership bong
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>>130747755

Sadly they are in .308 Its more practical, cheaper and versatile and shit but I always prefer 30-06 and 8x57IS over 308

>>130747757

With the bayonet fixed its about 1,66m long. Like a little spear. Also its 117 years old and is unironically the most accurate rifle I own. Even more accurate than a new Savage model 10
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>>130711913
My personal collection:

Rifle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIDQnZGTVM

Sidearm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUlZK7cJKXA

Concealed Carry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFnZanxLd1I
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>>130747542
Discriminate on IQ, not race.

Racial discrimination is clunky and stupid.

You expect me to treat a retarded white dude with more respect than a retarded black dude, just because in theory all blacks are dumber than all whites, even though in this case, they're the same?

For example, you want to cut down immigration? Fine, me too.
Give migrants IQ tests; if they're below 100; immediate disapproval for migration.

You're so caught up in race, you forget WHY it is you believe one is better than the other in the first place.

IQ, productivity, culture, surely?
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>>130747768
While, yes rimmed ammo is worse than rimless, if the Mosin has it's interrupter working properly it won't happen. It holds the top round off of the second one.
>>130748360
>With the bayonet fixed its about 1,66m long.
I love long infantry rifles too.
>Also its 117 years old and is unironically the most accurate rifle I own.
All the more reason not to mess with it.
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>>130747757

>Nagant
>collectible

Pick one.
Also refinishing just means getting the dirt out of the stock.
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We already helped you retards arm yourselves once before... so what happened to the 7,000 firearms the NRA gave you?

Fuck the UK, retards
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>>130720369
What was the thing in Texas then? Two muzzies died at a draw Mohamed event.
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>>130737508
COLORADO LAW IS THE NAP!?!?!
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>>130748621

I assume its yours? Nice. Never seen one in Germany. Is it true that one of the Arisakas could also fire .303 Brit.?
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>>130748693
>130748693
>not collectable
People said the same thing about Enfields, Mausers, Springfields, Arisakas, Krags, etc.
You know what they all have in common? They're now far more collectable NOT messed with.
I've seen super rare guns that would have been worth a lot, even M91/30 Mosins (yes they are rare ones out there) that some idiot couldn't put down the sandpaper and instead ruined it's collector's value.

It's also a Mosin, not a Nagant.

>Also refinishing just means getting the dirt out of the stock.
No, no it doesn't. A wet rag will remove dirt.
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>>130748591

No, I do not have to give migrants shit. This is our land and we decide if anybody gets in and who belongs here and who does not.
Canada is a fine example of that, it will be a Chinese colony by 2030. It is not about IQ it is being among your own kin. How is that hard to understand? Are you a non-white?
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>>130743960
It is. First tank with a rotating turret.
https://www.thoughtco.com/renault-ft-17-tank-2361328
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>>130749145
Yes, that one is mine. There would be very few in Germany. I know of some Type 38s there as I know a German collector that posted one of his.

>Is it true that one of the Arisakas could also fire .303 Brit.?
No. You're confusing the fact that the Japanese 7.7 cartridge is basically a British .303 that was changed to rimless. The bullet and loading is the same, but the case is not. The Japanese also used standard .303 in some of their machine guns.
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>>130749489
>No, I do not have to give migrants shit. This is our land and we decide if anybody gets in and who belongs here and who does not.
>Germany

I...

... Do...

... you realise the state your country is in right now, right?
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>>130749318

I can get top quality hexagonal Mosins for 299€ right now.
I think a refinished mosin will sell for more than a cosmoline drenched for the next 20 years at least.
I am never going to sell it anyways
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>>130748896
>Two muzzies died at a draw Mohamed event.

They won best chalk outline drawing.
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>>130747768
i have never had rimlock in my enfields but all the time in my nagant. the nagants arent supposed to rimlock due to having a built in interrupter, but the problem is the part is often worn, or impeded by dried cosmoline/varnish/grime, or requires fitment which the russians never took the time to do after a refurb. during arsenal refurbishment they just took apart all guns, put parts into piles, and put them back together again after covering them in cosmoline, not caring about the original matching numbers which were hand fitted together in the past. also with time, wood flexes, and throws off the stock fitment. if you are having problems with the interrupter on your nagant, try playing with the stock screw tension, overtightening stock screws will cause the interrupter to push up against the wood and it wont work as intended. you can sand the wood inside a bit to fix it, or loosen the screws a bit, or some combination of the two. also you can bend the spring of the interrupter a bit to put it in teh right location, it will take some tweaking. i spent many hours before finally fixing my carbine and getting it to work. now it is impossible to get rimlock on that nagant, still get it on my others and i just havent bothered because i only use them for shooting paper targets and fun.


also: https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt/langwaffen~repetierer/yw636e1w_verschiedene-k98.html?s=1&s_t=k98&o=preis_d

that looks like really good deal for authentic ww2 k98, how does this site work? i translated it with google and the ad says "we will find you one in similar condition". are you not buying the guns pictured on this site, but paying a dealer to locate one for you?
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>>130749823

Ah okay, I read that in some American forum a couple of years ago. I thought it was the same thign the Fins did with their Mosins and the 7,62x54 cartridge

>>130749839

>the status quo can't be changed, don't question it, don't imagine ideal worlds, goy

"ok"
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>>130748360
i saw another posting there where they have them in 8x57, and an 8x33? which im not sure what 8x33 is.
>>130747768

also:

also the magazine wall and how the follower fits inside plays a part. the finnish solved the problem by adding a dimple to their mosin magazines, you can buy a finnish magazine/triggerguard or change out follower or bend the spring inside to fit tighter. the follower if it has too much room inside the magazine wall will let the cartridge move to the side, out of reach from the interrupter. i spent many hours researching online how to fix this shit on my mosins so i know its a pain in the ass, too bad there are no manuals or guides from russian arsenals to follow. if teh mosin is working as intended, you will not get rimlock, it is actually a really clever design if you study it
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I like how gun discussion on here is more civil than gun discussion on /k/.
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>>130750151
>the status quo can't be changed, don't question it, don't imagine ideal worlds, goy
i never said that, faggot.

The sooner you get your shit together, the better it will be for everyone.

Your countries disgusting immigration policies have doomed europe and killed hundreds.
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>>130749919
You say that, but the opposite is true even now. Mosins aren't being imported as they once were. The Ukraine is mostly emptied of the ones they had and getting guns out of Russia is finicky at best. They literally have a law that has hundreds of gun models that can't be exported because of them being "cultural artifacts of Russia" or something like that. I don't think the Mosin is on that list just yet, but the Russians also want a lot of money for their guns, which is why you don't see too many of guns that they are known to have stored in large numbers like G41s and G43s.
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>>130750265
k is mostly fuds and casuals
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>>130749958

I am not even sure if the interrupter is the problem, I think it is the shitty zinc stripper clips I use. If you rattle them a bit the ammo gets loose and kind of pre-rimlocks within the stripper clip and you load the rimlock directly into the nugget.
Also just compare how smoth mauser clips work to the Russian shit. Idk about Enfield ones but with Mausers and Nagants its night and day.

Yes, for 445 you get the lowest quality ones, and for 635 they will handpick one for you in the best condition like 99% blueing. Meaning they have a stockpile of those and give the better ones to people who want to pay 200€ extra.
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>>130750482
there are still deals to be had but i agree its drying up. i just missed out on a couple of $50 91/30s recently, people still sell them thinking they are worth what they were 10 years ago, but its rare. you can easily find them for $150-$200 all day though, which in my opinion is still a bargain for what you get. as a historical artifact anyway. they arent really the most refined weapon but once you clean them up and get them working properly, they are pretty damn reliable and decently accurate
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>>130750151
The only thing Finns did was to use a slightly smaller diameter bullet for some of their Mosins they made. They called it the 7.62x53r. Now, the Estonians DID convert their Mosins to .303. They even did that to their Arisakas they had too.

Also, in the Russian Civil War the Reds couldn't get enough 7.62, but had a lot of .303 on hand so they did set the neck back on .303 to be able to be used in their Mosins, but that was out of desperation.

>>130750251
8x33 is 8mm Kurz.
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>>130750251

Could be, would be nice. I always shied away from them because of the price, I just knew they existed.
8x33 is the StG 44 caliber. Its just a shortened 8x57.

>>130750251

I wont spent anymore money on the mosin desu, I just bought it because it was a deadly shooting spear for 130 bucks. Thats enough. Rather by an FR8 ore a swedish mauser.

>>130750482

Well I guess here he have to agree to disagree since I think deep cleaning the stock of a ordnance rifle does not lower its value, especially when it was made in the millions.
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>>130750854
No, it can only be the interrupter. It holds the top cartridge off of the other ones in the magazine so it physically cannot touch the rim of the other cartridge.
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>>130750854
it is your interrupter. that is what i am saying, even if you preload the rimlock into the magazine, it shoudlnt matter if the gun is working properly. if i intentionally load the rounds staggered and incorrectly in my fixed mosin, the interrupter does the job and i have no problem with rimlock

i wish there was a .gif or video to show you what i mean. if you have your mosin handy, open the bolt and you will see the interrupter on the left side of the receiver, it is a little bar with a small tab. if you push it with your finger, it should spring back into the stock area, and pop back when you let go. this is supposed to keep the rounds in the magazine down low enough below the top round in the magazine, so that there is enough clearance for the top round in the magazine's rim to fully clear and not make any contact with the rest below it. so it wont matter what order the rims are stacked in, because the top round always rides higher than the top of the rim of the round below it

it will just take you some patience and fiddling to get it to work right. i recommend fully taking the interrupter off the receiver, and cleaning any bit of cosmoline or shellac varnish that the russians probably sloppily painted. check your interrupter against pictures of a good one online, examine it for wear on the end. if no wear, make sure it moves freely and far enough into the magazine to block the bottom round as intended. practice cycling rounds stacked in the wrong direction with the action out of the stock, and if it works, you know the stock is the problem. you can trim some wood or work on how tight your action screws are. always secure the first action screw closest to the iron sights first, to 80-90% tension, then the tang screw. the order is important
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Bongs are better off owning guns in Switzerland or the Czech Reoublic instead
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>>130751351
Cleaning isn't refinishing. Again, Enfields, Krags, Mausers, Arisakas, etc. all were made in the millions. The amount they are made doesn't mean shit. It's how many that are left. They're only original once and when it comes to military rifles original means more about how it left service.

Again there are lots of rare Mosins out there. Ever seen the price of an actual original matching M91/30? Not the post-war refurbed shit, but actual factory correct ones?
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>>130751106
>>130751351
interesting, is 8mm kurz a common caliber for hunting or target use in germany still? i wonder why they would make a reproduction K98 in one, there was never any original K98 chambered in that to my knowledge. it is an expensive cartridge here in america, because almost no factory ammo company makes it. i think the only available ammo in that caliber comes from serbia
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>>130751363
>>130751634

I will look into that, thanks
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>>130751351
i love my swedes anon, i feel in a way like i help keep the memory of sweden alive before they went full arabic. excellent craftsmanship. i also want an FR8, they look badass and actually practical and utilitarian
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>>130751844

Same here, I only know Privi Partzian as a 8x33 supplier. I have no idea why they did this. Maybe its aimed at reloader target shooters to save powder?

>>130751767

Yes, but my Mosin is a simple 1946 M44, nothing special.
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>>130752261
>nothing special.
That's what they all said.
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>>130752167

They are. They actually use CETME rifles in the FR8. Also the bayonet is pretty cool. I just wish I could find cheap .308 stripper clips anywhere

Swedish steel is the best, thats why they are top notch shooters till today. They are cock on close though which I do not like too much
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>>130751767
yeah bringbacks of 91/30s are exceedingly rare, ww2 correct examples pretty much only made it back from GIs who may have scavenged them from captured german aresenal or somehow managed to trade for or steal one somehow
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>>130752564
>>130752564
>308 stripper clips anywhere
did you try ebay? i just bought a dozen for 6 bucks? 308 stripper clips should be pretty cheap and i dont think you should have any issues buying them internationally but i could be wrong

8mm clips will work and hold 308 just fine for storage but wont really fit well into the rifles slot for actual loading. i know because i have tried
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>>130752564
the cock on close does take a little getting used to, same deal with the enfields though. the swedish mausers are really a joy to shoot, accurate and such light recoil from that 6.5 caliber. definitely try and get one before prices go up further on them. there werent that many made and people are starting to realize how undervalued they are
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>>130753000

Nope, most are 10 round stripper clips for FAL's and M14's.
Which actually made me think of putting a 20 round modified Grabenmagazin on the FR8. That would be nice.
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>>130752564
>They actually use CETME rifles in the FR8.
If you are suggesting they were made to shoot the 7.62CETME cartridge that is fuddlore. They were made to shoot 7.62NATO from the start. Furthermore, 7.62CETME actually produces the same pressure as 7.62NATO contrary to what others say. Retards just don't read the manuals.
>>130752676
There were some non refurbs or light refurbs (just had a little shellac slathered on the wood) that were imported. If you see any with a Cole's import mark it's a good chance they are one of the other. He imported a lot of good ones.
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>>130753327

Before this thread ends, check out the G98/40 if you did not know it already.
Missed the opportunity to buy one for 800€ a year ago. Cursing myself for it today.
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>>130753556

No, I am suggesting that they used the same rifles for the FR8 as they built the CETME .308 rifles from. Because they could not keep up with the rifle production they used some of them for the FR8 instead of the CETME
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>>130753436
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-each-USGI-7-62X51-308-stripper-clips-with-charger-Vietnam-war-era-/222546091616?hash=item33d0c7de60:g:9d4AAOSwyWZZQW3E

try something like that maybe?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-62x51-308-Winchester-5-Round-Steel-Stripper-Clips-Springfield-FAL-Etc-/252993151747?hash=item3ae7912303:g:UKwAAOSwT5xZQn7I

https://www.creedmoorsports.com/product/1778/shop-by-department

are there laws against buying them from US vendors? they are very common and inexpensive here
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>>130753835
The FR7s and FR8s were mainly just used for training. They were made to function in the sights just like the Cetme rifle.
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>>130753835

*barrels not rifles
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>>130754016

I think your ITAR restrictions kind of prohibit exporting it

>>130754083

Actually they were intended for the Guardia Civil
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>>130753835
>>130753556
no i think something is getting lost in translation he is trying to say they use original CETME barrels and fixed sight. if you look at an FR8 the barrel itself is a CETME barrel with the gas tube on top deleted and moved below to hold a cleaning kit or a bayonet i think
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>>130754016

"Does not ship to Germany"
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Just stopping by to say I support you.
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>>130754408
unbelievable, its a fucking clip! it literally is a piece of metal that serves no purpose but to load a magazine
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