Redpill me on liberals / lefties

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They're normalfags, and that's that.

>>130702151
Pol is not a safe place, and facts are a type of white supremacy.

They have reddit, why don't you pay them a visit?

>>130702151

This board is the only safe harbor from their treacherous clutch.

>>130702151
thats not liberalism, hillary clinton is the epitome of the democratic establishment. very little to do with liberalism.

liberalism is close to libertarianism, its been subsumed by the corporate wing of the Democratic party and sold as a product to stupid people

>>130702890
>>130702780
>>130702384

I was on reddit. You post 2 things and get kicked out of their groups. Not sure how this helps with freedom of speech or discord. Seems like reddit is nothing but Facebook without profile pictures.

>>130703199
So where are all the liberals then? Where are all the Hillary Clinton lovers?

>>130702151
The same reason you never get the right on left-dominated websites.

Everyone likes their echo chamber.

>>130703387
you just made the same mistake, the hillary lovers arent liberals.

they are idiots. pitchforks and fire and drive those assholes into the sea, who cares where they are.

>>130703440
>The same reason you never get the right on left-dominated websites.

Sorry, but as explained above, I went to reddit... but they immediately kicked me out of their groups because they do not like any discussion.

A liberal can come here to /pol/ and make a liberal post and will not be stopped doing so.

Or in other words, it is definitely NOT the same reason. I personally want to discuss politics with liberals. BUT they do not let me into their websites to discuss things and they do not come here where we could freely discuss.

>>130703539
>you just made the same mistake, the hillary lovers arent liberals.
I just separated the. How did I make the same mistake?

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>>130703199
Wow, thanks for enlightening us with that amazing argument on semantics. Because it's not like there's a whole bunch of people who call themselves "liberals" in contemporary society and are socialist retards. See, whenever I hear "liberal," I assume the person means John Locke and George Washington.

>>130702151
I'm a full blown sjw but I only lurk here these days. Usually no point trying to discuss anything in a community that blames literally everything on complex conspiracy

I have good discuss with conservatives I know irl or other places online but here I've given up dealing with the impenetrable, non-falsifiable, catch-all hugbox of '(((because)))'

It's all about accepting defeat to the SJWs and realizing flaws with ideology. Some of liberals went full on MAGA, some of them went on critisizing both SJWs and right-wingers for being retarded. And most of them are non-autistic reddit-dwellers, who don't give a shit about /pol/

>>130703827
ah excuse me, I thought you were conflating the two.

to answer your question, there are a few liberals, i dont believe Hillary supporters could possibly come to /pol/.

to them, it must seem a very serious threat.

>>130704267
im just barely paying attention.

>>130702151
this is a true free speech forum. Liberals don't like free speech.

The main reason 4chan isn't as popular for normies is because its all anonymous. You don't have an account and so there's nothing to project your virtue signalling.

The moment 4chan gets account names/karma system is when the normies will start flocking to this place. You don't want that. So when you see a namefag (Other than when its necessary) you make sure to call them out on it.

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>>130704665
Sure you are. You must smoke out of a pipe and be from the 18th century.

>>130704350
>Usually no point trying to discuss anything in a community that blames literally everything on complex conspiracy

I don't think that is the case. I don't believe in any conspiracy theory.

>>130704350
>I have good discuss with conservatives I know irl or other places online
In other words, you have discussions with people in places where they will not tell them their real thoughts. You do understand that this place gets the real thoughts from people, right?
>>130704350
>but here I've given up dealing with the impenetrable, non-falsifiable, catch-all hugbox of '(((because)))'
Discussions are not about winning the other person over. This is a common mistake people make. Discussions are about providing reasoned responses to others.

>>130703769
He's kinda right, though. /pol/ is right-dominated. Sure, you won't be _technically_ stopped, when you express liberal opinions, but there is a higher chance of getting "go back to plebbit, cuck" reply. Which is, totally, OK, but your opinion still can be lost under the tide of faggots. I mean, it's better than Twitter/Reddit/Facebook, but still

>>130704909
so you are comfortable with ignoring the correct names for things?

i guess its not a big deal but accuracy isnt a bad thing ...my good chum.

I mean really it just adds the problem of giant political divide. When you miss label things because of what you imagine most liberals are, whenever you hear an idea that falls under the banner of true liberalism then you will react as it came from Hillary Clinton.

Lear what things are , you may as well.

>>130704899
>The main reason 4chan isn't as popular for normies is because its all anonymous. You don't have an account and so there's nothing to project your virtue signalling.

But why is that? Why do liberals not want to discuss politics on an anonymous basis? You know, this is a real, a pure discussion of reason only. This board doesn't care if you are an 85yr old tranny or a 19yr old Icelandic right-wing Jew.

>>130703769
Maybe they are not real liberals, they are part of the problem in western democracies. There's a lot of liberals here. What's more liberal then a pirate?

>>130704890
Which is ironic, considering free speech is one of the cores of liberal ideology

>>130705511
>"go back to plebbit, cuck" reply. Which is, totally, OK, but your opinion still can be lost under the tide of faggots.

But you won't get censored or banned. If you go to reddit, you get banned from a group after 2 critical posts.

Again, I think you can come here and post as a liberal to discuss openly. But liberals do not do that. I wonder why. Why are normal Facebook loving people discuss politics on this board once in a while?

>>130705887
In my opinion they are simply brainwashed. They are the demostration that we have an issue facing western democracies.

>>130705887
i genuinely think its a fad... this is basically just what became of the emo scene from 05.

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>>130705548
>so you are comfortable with ignoring the correct names for things?
Always moving the goal posts. My problem isn't with technicalities, it's with your obvious pedantic pretentiousness.
>true liberalism
Nice NTS fallacy.

>>130706455
my problem is your disregard for really important definitions.

i dont hold it against you.

>>130705511
what the fuck do you mean technically stopped? you literally will not be stopped at all, people just have the option to also respond freely.

if someone insults you that dos not impede you from discussion. does trump stop being president because someone insults him?

>>130702151
they need to die

>>130705660

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6T-QethqCA

Take reddit as an example. You disagree with someone you can get banned/downvoted/etc. You agree with people you get upvoted and shit. It's not about stating your opinion. It's simply to show how "unique/awesome/kind. How much of a good person they are. That's it.

>>130705887
>You won't get banned
Yes, that's the point I was trying to make. Nothing is technically stopping you, but it's really easy to get overwhelmed. And, as I said, /pol/ isn't perfect, but it's way better than places with no anonymity

>Liberals don't do that
Well, I consider myself a liberal. But we are, probably, talking about different types of liberals. People you are talking about are SJWs and socialists, not liberals. They don't believe in true equality and free speech, which to me are essential to liberal ideology

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>>130706730
You're still wrong. It's still liberalism.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States

>>130705660
Liberals don't actually care about politics and don't put any real though Into their position they just parrot eachother for virtue signaling purposes and good boy points

>>130702151
Bump

>>130704350
Left-leaning lad who likes conflicting opinions and a bit of roughness in his thoughts, and more or less in the same boat as you
This board can offer a few interesting insights, but at the same time it dishes out 4 or 5 garbage moronic brainfarts. You gotta do a lot of sorting out and at some point it becomes tiring, especially when you see the same infographic-memes over and over again, and people unironically parroting them back without an ounce of critical thought
However this board may bitch and moan, liberals are still much more well-read and rational than conservatives. Going after SJWs is like atheist going after creationists, it's false ego-stroking

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>>130702151
i dont know man im white boy

>>130702890
This

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>>130707445
>liberals are still much more well-read and rational than conservatives. Going after SJWs is like atheist going after creationists, it's false ego-stroking

>>130702151
Because what usually happens when a liberal comes on /pol/ is one of the three choices.

1) They see some post they consider racist, close tab and go back to Facebook.

2) They see some post that goes against their worldview and continue to read more about it. Suddenly, they begin to think. "Wait a minute, that can't be right. There's no way that's true."

They then search up this topic on Google, Wikipedia, etc, and find out that it's real. At this moment, they begin to question more things. They read more threads, They search up more things. They see the cracks in the wall.

But, the more cracks the see, the more isolated they become. They can't seem to enjoy having convos with their fellow libs at Starbucks about white privilege. They know that their friends wrong. They can't tell them what they learned out of fear for being racist. If they do however, they are ostracized by the group, called a Neo-Nazi or white supremacist or [insert right wing thing here]

Eventually, sooner or later, the liberal turns into the very thing it hated and rejects their close friends, finding more kinship with faceless anonymous posters across the world.

This is why there are no liberals on here.

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>>130707445
no one believes you

>>130706929
>technically stopped
I meant banned or downvoted. People might still ignore your argument because you are a "brainwashed libtard". I don't, really, mind that, but I can see, why "normal" liberals can be discouraged from starting these discussions

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>>130707900
Basically, this >>130707445 is the point i was trying to make, but I can't write for shit right now

>>130707856
Says the proponent of a system that requires everyone to magically submit to its vague moral imperative in order to work

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>>130702151
>Arguing with my leftist sister earlier about Islam
>She keeps calling me racist because I keep telling her they need to go back because they're terrorists
>She insists they're not terrorists
>As we're arguing the Brussels attack is announced
>Mfw

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>>130708363
>he thinks beneficiality is magic
well, that explains a lot

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>>130703202
there is where you realize that people actually value being 'in' than being virtuous

>>130703202
>>130708717
this is where rather*

>>130708415
this exact same situation happened with me when the Manchester bombing happened.

>>130708650
>he thinks benificiality is an english word...
Learn your own language
And the day you will understand economy isn't the only metric by which you define a political system is the day you can post about politics

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>>130707712
Fuck you, I'm just as good read as those faggots

>>130708415
>>130708944
As you write this, police shot a muslim with explosive belt in Brussels

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>>130709375
gr9 b10 m11

>>130709698
I'm sorry, can you write proper English, please? I don't understand your nigger speak that well.

>>130702151

duh. this is the politically incorrect board. why would mainstream bluepill thought be politically incorrect? they rule popular opinion.

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>>130702151
pol is the absolute opposite of a hug box that is reddit or facebook. Truth is the utmost importance here regardless of feelings, facts don't care about feelings.

pic related sums it up better than i can.

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>>130710157
>HE SAID 'NIGGER' AGAIN!!!!11!!

>>130702151
There are liberals here. They have communications degrees. They are paid to be here and undermine ]our[ efforts to normalize decency. They exist on the very brink itself.

>>130702151
truth will always triumphs over delusion. You either stay here and are converted or go away to live in your delusional world

>>130704350
Nigger faggot

>>130705414
> Discussions are about providing reasoned responses to others.
My point is that you can't have reasoned discussions here. Arguments don't even 'retreat' to conspiracy. They go there immediately. You can't have a discussion about the where you draw a line on gun ownership with someone who thinks mass shootings are manufactured, and any evidence to the contrary is evidence of conspiracy. As I said - non-falsifiable.
>In other words, you have discussions with people in places where they will not tell them their real thoughts. You do understand that this place gets the real thoughts from people, right?
I'm also tired of super masturbatory stuff like this. /pol/ believes /pol/ has the only real opinion on the planet.

>>130707856
>DEBUNKED in bold, red, capital letters
>the thrust of the entire image could be reversed completely simply by reversing the order the datasets appear