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What is the likelihood of Germany becoming a fascist country again?
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It already is, just the opposite side of the political specturm.
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>>130698111
>fascist
>opposite side of the political spectrum
Did you fail your high school history class?
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>>130697990
100%, when the new germans elect a muslim government and implement sharia
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>>130698360
But they are. Their anti right-wing laws are basically nazi Germanys anti commie laws flipped. They are not as cucked as UK or France but it is still bad
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>>130697990
It's already fascist.
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We're fascists now
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>>130698111
I'm pretty sure facism is a far left wing ideology. Germany is still a left wing country, but not left enough and not intolerant enough of ethnic race to be considered fascist. Fascism is just socialism, but it's about ethnic problems instead of social class problems, and we all know that socialism is a far left ideology. If you do enough research, you'll realize that Hitler is more politically connected to Hillary than Trump.
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>>130698360
>both have collectivization as major ideological tenets
>both lead to authoritarians
>both lead to you becoming a slave for the state
>both killed millions of people
>both silenced all dissidents
>both have cringe contrarians who support these ideologies in the face of all reason and historical precedent

>horseshoe theory is somehow incorrect
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>>130699216
>Fascism is just socialism, but it's about ethnic problems

You have no idea what you are talking about. Read a book, you nigger. Hell, even start with the wikipedia page on fascism. Literally anything at all before you ever speak about fascism again.
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>>130699216
>ITZ ALL SOH-SHULL-IZM
>HITLER WAS A LEFTIST LIBTURD
>DEMOCRAPS R DA REAL RAYCISS
Steven Crowder plz go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ5fL1okyng
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>>130697990
They've been so heavily brainwashed to reject their evil past that they first need to be deconditioned.
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>>130697990
This is a great question.

Historically, Germany goes off the rails suddenly. The first time in the 20th century was an assination. The second was an economy that slowly deteriorated which led to war suddenly and deliberately.

If Germany doesn't stop importing, who are clearly incompatible with the West, there will be a repeat of the past.

Likely, the other European countries will revolt and escalate things quickly.
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>>130697990
Well if this leftist government collapse which might happen once the EU collapses. Or if a civil war happens the odds are still not that great. Odds are Germany will become a right wing Republic that bans communists from office and expels migrants out.
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>>130697990
Very high, infidel
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>>130699928
Although generation Z is really fucking radical here.
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>>130700308
Yeah, i'm sure the right wing death squads full of 50+ year old man with a beer belly (because that's about the only germans left) will make the world tremble in fear again, LMFAO.
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>>130699470
You didn't dismiss my claim. All you did was assume I was black and told me to educate myself. How mature of you. You guys praise Hitler as a god, when you don't realize you're praising a guy who believed in liberal ideologies you hate so much. I hate liberal ideologies and don't support them, but to prove to me you hate them too, you got to stop praising this left wing fascist ideology.
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>>130697990
Good. People getting really pissed. The average german is waking up.

All we need now is a financial crisis and we will go 14/88 again.

There is hope
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It is a fascist state. Its end game is to genocide the indigenous German population.
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>>130700649
>really fucking radical

don't exaggerate
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>>130697990

Once all the money Angela Merkel lent to the rest of Europe via the ECB blows up, and with it the elder peoples pension claims. Pic related.
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>>130700801
I don't praise anyone as god except Himself. I'm not some neo nazi but its cute that you think everyone on /pol/ is. Just proves what an absolute newfag you are. How's your first day on 4chan treating you?

By the way, you're absolutely wrong about fascism. Fascism is nothing more than an extremely authoritarian government - which Germany very much is - and has absolutely nothing to do with race.
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>>130699470
>be a good goy and trust wikipedia
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>>130699759
All your doing is insulting conservative views that have good points to them. You fascist, conservative wannabes don't debunk claims, you only insult them.
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>>130697990
If the EU fails, we'll be left with no other option but turn Germany into a very bleak fortress where nobody goes in or out.
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>indigenous German population

What the fuck does that mean?
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>>130697990
Low.

The only way they'll switch back on is if the rest of Europe and the US both did so.
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>>130701209
>Fascism is nothing more than an extremely authoritarian government - which Germany very much is - and has absolutely nothing to do with race.

wat m8
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>>130697990
well lots of factors going against it at the moment

doing fine economically
not much revanchism, the unification with East Germany was modern appeasement policy and only a minority (me included) want Prussia and Silesia back
lots of leftist brainwashing
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>>130697990
They are self hating anti-nationalist pro Islamic fascists. Literally everything good about fascism they discard, but keep the totalitarian style police state.
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>>130701453
>What the fuck does that mean?

WHITES YOU FUCKING CRETIN
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I'd say a couple of years.
Election time
>Alt right candidate promises to make Germany a proud country and one that should never fear its past
>They win
>Travel Ban
>Muslims deported
5 years later
>America and Europe comes in and builds fake concentration camps
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>>130697990
>Germans now having their doors kicked down for posting badthink on faceberg

You tell me
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>>130701209
Are you fucking high m8? The German state is insidious and craves taxes, but not authoritarian. It leaves you the fuck alone if you owe neither money nor jail time. You don't know what authoritarian really means. If you think economic regulations are tyranny, you are sorely mistaken. An economy has no function without strict regulations. American economists know this better than anyone.
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>>130697990
i think polandia has a potencial to go postal
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>>130701800
The people whose granddaddies voted Hitler into office have every right to kick xenophobic agitators in the kneecaps. A misguided definition of superiority is exactly what I hate about foreigners, including many Americans. Fuck them all.
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>>130697990

I don't think Germany will go fascist in the future.

I do think they are done. Germany is done. There is no going back and the german population will be replaced by sandniggers from all over the world. That's the harsh reality. When the time comes, some other european people will colonise Germany again and kick the browns out of there, like the spaniards did in Iberia.
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0%... Beyond repair at this point.
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>>130701956
If you say so. How are you enjoying having your country force millions of immigrants in to replace the native population, by the way? Enjoying that?

Governments doing shit like this against the best interests of the people is nothing but fascism. One day you may come to the realization that your government doesn't give a shit about you and has absolutely no problem with seeing you destroyed if it means more taxes.
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>>130697990
0.
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>>130697990
Not big enough to satisfy me.
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>>130701573
What? Every single german I talked to wants Prussia back.
Even the girls.
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>>130702584
>the best interests of the people

You are a hillbilly burger, you don't know what a people even is. The only threat to Germany is the tyrant racist America.
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>>130702584
you are the no.1 in this case but I dont see many guys standing up in the USA

KKK is dead and these Kekistani faggots are just a total joke
also , your cucked alt-right is actually controlled by Jews
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>>130702408
>>130702425
This
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>>130697990
Maybe in 1-2 generations. Current one is too brainwashed.
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>>130701209
1. I've been on 4chan for god knows how long. I'm not naive enough to believe everyone on 4chan is a neo-nazi. I come here to support Trump, since 4chan does as well. It's you fascists that deframe Trump and make the narrow minded libtards assume that Trumps believes everything you fascists believe that gets on my nerves. 2. Authoritarianism is a far left ideology, since an anti-authoritarian country, or anarchy country is far right. 3. Facism is about ethnic and minority (which I forgot to include in my original reply) problems. Look at the holocaust with the Jews, Gypsies, and people with mentally handicaps (which is ironic, since many neo-nazis on 4chan have autism) being executed for being who they are.
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>>130702970
I wish I could say the same
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>>130702824
My fellow Lettland one of our green politicians want found a complete village of Syrian refugees in Latvia. New Lebensraum for refugees.
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>>130701261
Conservatism means nothing. You are trying to stay in one place while the mob is pulling you with a rope. Conservatives 60 years ago would kill themselves if they saw you today.
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>>130698111
Totally correct. Germany did never change.
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>>130697990
The remaining ethnic Germans will diaspora to more uncucked zones if they are smart, but no they will never recover as a nation in the Vaterland
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>>130697990
Zero.
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>>130697990
Germany is run by east germans who still love the old ideology Merkel is a commie consumed with that agenda - pretending to be loving and accepting and progressive when in actual fact they are evil - really evil, which sounds right for Germans. Fuck, the bastards blindly following them are going to be shocked as all hell when their true colors are really shown
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>>130698111
>>130699216
>american education
Can't make this shit up. You even think Hillary and Trump are somewhat relevant when it comes to discussing this topic.

Authoritarianism =/= left wing. Communism fights for left wing social and economic values in a authoritarian way. Fascism fights for conservative social and economic values (capitalism) in a authoritarian way. Learn the difference, retards.

The only "socialist" thing about Hitler and the NSDAP was that they cared for their people and the "Volksgemeinschaft". If this is socialist to you, you can't be right wing without being socialist since caring for your people and nation is essentially the difference between right wingers and cuckservatives who are in there for the $$$
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When you sow the seed of ~1.8 million virile migrant men into your country, there is no possible way of controlling the political future of your country. But maybe it would become fascist... In an Islamist dystopian kinda way...
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>>130697990
high I think : whats funny is they wouldn't be allied to the muslims this time.
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>>130703240
>Authoritarianism is a far left ideology, since an anti-authoritarian country, or anarchy country is far right.
Jesus it must hurt the have an american brain
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>>130703983
*to have
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>>130703438
Spengler explained it best. Prussian socialism is their normal state. Ordnung is the highest virtue.
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>>130703307
Do you have any idess how to crash the EU.
Would be helpfull.
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>>130703983
The funny thing is that a capitalist anarchy is an oxymoron since anarchy must be socialistic.
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>>130703240
>2. Authoritarianism is a far left ideology, since an anti-authoritarian country, or anarchy country is far right.
You're a fucking idiot, holy shit. Authoritarian is a whole different spectrum than left-right. The right wing people being anti-authoritarian is a very recent phenomenon in this country, when I was growing up the republicans were extremely authoritarian and the democrats were very much against that. They've switched on the authoritarian spectrum and stayed mostly the same on the liberal-conservative spectrum. You wouldn't know this, though, since you're some dumfuck kid who thinks he knows everything.

>3. Facism is about ethnic and minority problems
Not even remotely. Pick up a dictionary and see for yourself. With 10 seconds of Google you can prove yourself wrong. There is absolutely no reason to be spouting things that are factually incorrect.
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>>130704207
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>>130697990
0.00000%
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0 chance man.
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>>130701441
>>130701956
>>130702404
>>130703026
Maybe we should ban all Germans from posting here. They always have the most atrocious posts.
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>>130702970
>Every single german I talked to wants Prussia back.
South-German chiming in. Yeah, you get back your country, so that we can get back with austria.

t. someone living in a county that writes black numbers
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>>130701956
You don't think it's possible for people to write tyrannical laws? That's a bit naive.
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>>130704381
There is no anarchy in capitalism.
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>>130703730
What a blissfully ignorant opinion.
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>>130704883
There is capitalism in anarchy.
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>>130701453
It means the indigenous German population. English not your first language?
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>>130701956
>it leaves you the fuck alone if you owe neither money nor jail time
it also makes up crimes so you owe them money, thus giving them a reason to fuck with you
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>>130705152
No there isn't actual anarchists which are still useful idiots object to private property and concentrated wealth which is like the fucking Hare Krishna of anclaps.
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>>130697990
Probably won't happen. Fascism is too deluted from economy point of view to make a comeback. But - some new form of ideology supporting nationalism on its shoulders will rise, but it has got to tend the economy.
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>>130697990
14:88
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>>130705515
Everything is in anarchy.
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>>130703427
Like I said before, all you're doing is insulting me. You're not even debunking my claims. Just like the libtards who back away from an arguement and call conservatives racist, mysognistic, homophobic, and islamophobic when their claims get debunked.
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>>130705913
I am. I already told you conservatives are useless in the long run. You hope to conserve traditional Christian values through a liberal democracy. Good luck. Btw niggers and women couldn't vote 100 years ago.
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>>130703039
That's why no one with a brain calls themselves alt-right, and if you see anyone here doing that you can bet they reek of summer.
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>>130700984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUOPHqx5Gs
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>>130703730
You can still be left wing and support the capitalist system. Just look at Bernie Sanders.
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History has been proven to be cyclical time and again. If the jews keep pushing their crap, then a purging will happen as before throughout history, Good people only put up with so much before they fight back. Jews will never learn.
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>>130705913
>so stupid he doesn't realize he is retarded
You have been debunked from the start. Everyone that has ever talked to you is 100%, and you have been 100% wrong in every single post of yours.
You are an example of
>American education
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>>130706070
The Democrats were responsible for slavery and the jim crow laws if you did not know already. They were also the people who restricted the voting system for white males who owned land.
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>>130706999
Yeah, because calling me a nigger, a kid, and a person indulged into american education is defintely debunking my claims. I may not be right about everything, but you and many of these other people who have responded to me are not being mature about this conversation.
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>>130698111

Hehe that hit the ol (((nadsi))) crew of the cryptocrowd
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>>130707375
>being this new
>muh democrats are the real racists
Please lurk the archives for some redpills. It's painful. Also the word "racist" was invented by (((Lev Davidovich Bronstein))) in a soviet newspaper.
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>>130699658

>>130699658

spasibo.
dumb ass murricans think they still live in 1941,
fact is, that time is long over
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>>130697990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4obeqaxhRs
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>>130699412
Radical centrism, my guy!
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There is very short distance between multiculturalist tolerance and extermination camps.
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>>130708277
Isn't that an oxymoron though? Even if it wasn't centrists are so spineless it might as well become.
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>>130708292
Yes the difference is do you love your people or the foreign people.
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>>130703730
Capitalism is detrimental to the nation and the people, as it creates enterprises that care about profit over well-being. Furthermore, it allows subversives to gain considerable power in undermining the government and the people.
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>>130708792
What system will put the well-being of the people over personal ambition?
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>>130708634
I'm referring to the poster's political stance, not what he's saying. Citing horseshoe theory.
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>>130708889
National socialism and fascism, as well as certain forms of other authoritarian governments.
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>>130708889
State-controlled key industries like the military-indusrial complex and of course removal of foreign interests harmful to the people. If that isn't done these 2 things control the nation not the opposite.
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>>130709047
But then doesn't it become dependent on the moral constitution of its leaders? I mean we're assuming that there is no corruption involved.
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>>130697990
The same likelihood of you getting laid
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>>130698111
/thread/
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>>130709134
It does but that is preferable to being a slave to a hostile group which hates your people. In the end whatever the leader is he still cares for the nation.
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>>130709134
Ultimately I don't believe any government can truly be incorruptible, but in a meritocracy with dis-empowered subversives (Big companies, lobbyists, marxists, etc.) there is considerable protection against corruption of officials and leaders.
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>>130707375
You have barely scratched the surface.
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>>130704295
1. Many conservatives back then held onto liberal views such as big brother authoritarianism (look at George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln for instance) 2. I found the definition of Fascism for you.
A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism. Remember dictatorship, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and racism before responding to my comment. Many socialist countries like Russia when it was under the USSR were dictatorships, and we all know that socialism is left wing. Censorship is what liberals on the left wing love to do, such as the people running CNN and MSNBC, who cut out conservatives from the air when they're winning an arguement. They have also done this with terror when it comes to Trump protests and BLM protests. Racism is a huge thing when it comes to fascism, so your claim of fascism not being about ethnic and minoriry problems has been debunked. If you think my definition is wrong, then I suggest you go to your nearest insane asylum.
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>>130703730
Authoritarianism = left wing
Classical Liberalism = right wing
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>>130709726
Tell me more information. I'm interested in your knowledge.
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>>130697990

ya... your going to have to wait for Sharia German before that happens.

Now the good old USA will slide more and more into a fascist police state.

Its my belief that anything could set us off and start CW2. I'm thinking CW2 in under 9 years but greater then 7.
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>>130707910
Just because racism was invented by a Russian during the USSR doesn't mean it doesn't correspond to your views and left wing views.
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>>130697990
There is no replacement policy in Germany. Merkel and de Maizière were just too cowardly to sign the document that would have ordered the executive to close the borders.
Merkel and de Maizière both knew that the german media together with the whole media of western europe AND american(!) would show "disturbing images" of "innocent people" seeking for shelter being forcefully stopped at the borders.
The media gave Merkel a harsh warning in 2015 just before the so called "refugee crisis". She literally said "Wir können das [...] NICHT schaffen" (We cannot make it!). That is the complete opposite of "Wir schaffen das" (We will make it!) She was shown in TV with a girl that had TO GO BACK. The girl started crying and Merkel was portrayed as a kind of monster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRFzPvpJ6Kk
If Merkel had closed the borders, she would not be chancellor anymore. That is just a fact.

The media runs the german government totally. That's what I want to tell especially to my american friends. Be glad to have FoxNews! Your media landscape is by far not heaven, but at least you have some diversity and freedom of speech is still valued. In Germany there is basically only one media mainstream running everything except for maybe ONE journal (Die junge Freiheit) that is still somehow conservative and critical.

To change Germany for good you have to change the media.
It's so fucking ridiculous! We all are blaming politicians like Merkel etc. for everything. In fact these people have no other choice than to do what they do.
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>>130698807
Our government is right wing you illiterate dipshit.
Anti free speech laws go against far right and left equally (not allowed to criticize jews/israel, the police, rich people etc all of which extremists on both ends hate.
If anything it fascism of the moderate/christian democratic/ social democratic centre now.
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>>130711498
God bless you conservatives in Germany. Always know God is with you in the hardest of times. You may not have a conservative media, but atleast you have a conservative internet.
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>>130713127
Thank you, my friend!

There is one thing about Germany that will probably never change: It can change very quickly. Just exchange some people at some important positions and the rest will follow.
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>>130704706
Germany should be split in 3 seperated by religion, culture and language (after the former borders are restored):
>Protestant-Prussian Germany
>Catholic-Alpine Germany
>Mixed Rhineland/Phalian Germany
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>>130714277
and Frisian Germany should be united with the Netherlands (which should annex Flanders)
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8/100

They're basically like french or swedes, just with more political power and more cocky about 'white'.
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>>130712771
The United States was created to be a right wing christian government. The first amendment promoted the freedom of speech. Governments that were against this idea, such as Nazi Germany and the USSR were left wing athiests (or anti-christian).
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>>130700649
gen 1 turks are ok, because they couldnt just do their radical islam shit without raising eyebrows and i think some realized the merits of living in the west.

gen 2 turks are spoiled islamists
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