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SCOTUS CONFIRMS: HATE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH

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LEFTIES ARE GOING ABSOLUTELY NUTS IN THE COMMENTS SECTION

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/?utm_term=.8f058ee150fc#comments

>It's comforting to see that our land's highest court has affirmed the citizenry's right to hate. Black, Muslim, LGBT, Latino, etc. Lives Matter -- just in a really dubious way.

>Hate speech made Hitler possible. Contradiction?

>Wow. In the end - this was a money ruling. As in - those with the most money got the ruling that they wanted. This ruling says that Alex Jones is allowed to spread his filth and lies across PUBLIC airways without any restrictions. This ruling affirms the FOX News Entertainment policy of creating fake news for Entertainment value. This ruling affirms that Breitbart can continue to make up stories whole cloth regardless of facts - with no repercussions. And strangely - those who got the victory were rich. What a surprise...
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Are lefties really this stupid?

If it had gone the other way, what do they think would happen?

Just deem anything they held dear hate-speech and throw them all in jail
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muh hate
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This is great.
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Why are they mad tho? Lefties are the most hate filled faggots I've ever known.
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Great news, gonna go out to the hood nearby my home and call some blackies "niggers and porchmonkies"
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>>130687802
ummmm sweetie we only hate people who are hateful, snookums
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>>130687802
Because they think they are morally superior and if you don't agree with them you should be jailed.
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>>130686087
HATE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH, NIGGER
FREE SPEECH IS HATE SPEECH, KIKE
FUCKIN AMERICA, FUCK YEAH AND FUCK THE CHINKS.
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>>130686087
I like how they say Trump and supporters are angry at this ruling all the while supporting the UN's Human Rights shitfest as being better than the 1st
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>>130688038
top kek, this is probably how retarded they actually think
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This gives me hope

This kills the Jew

exposing the Holocaust will never be illegal in the free world
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>>130686087
Even Ginsberg voted for this. Liberals must really be losing it today.
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>>130686087
>top kek, this is how retarded they actually think

Ftfy
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>>130686087
KILL MUSLIMS, KILL THEM ALL

>I love america

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ
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>>130688744
Not in your shit country you little EU fagboy. Suck my freedom dick
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>>130688259
Hate speech is free speech kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ
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>>130688788
>>130688744
oy vey america is free. Thank you founding fathers for BTFO communist scum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ
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>>130686087
It's a great day lads.
Small victories.
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Good, this is what the first amendment is intended for, free speech.
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HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF SHUFFLING TRAFFIC TO (((WASHINGTON POST))) WE ACUTALLY GO READ THE FUCKING DECISION. STEP IT UP KIDS. THIS IS NO TIME TO GET LAZY. http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/tam.pdf
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>>130687004
Yes.
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What I found odd was how Washington Post had this in their opinion section when it's factual information.
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Holy shit
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Based murica.
Muh freedom isnt just a meme.
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>>130686087
>BLM chant "pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon"
>liberals upset they can't be prosecuted for it
wew and here i thought liberals wanted less blacks in jail
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I ain't clicking that shit, Washington Post can go straight to Hell.

Someone post screenshots of the comments, I want to see lefties REEEEEES
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>>130689516

What the fuck is he saying? I read his comment three times and I still son't understand his position.
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>unanimously
Beautiful. I wish we had free speech in Europe.
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>Content-based laws—those that target speech based on its communicative content—are presumptively unconstitutional and may be justified only if the government proves that they are narrowly tailored to serve compelling state interests.
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>>130687004
>Are lefties really this stupid?
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I swear to God Bezos is the biggest piece of shit to buy Washington post just to push Leftist propaganda. Pathetic, how many times has the Washington post been BTFO and proven wrong? Too bad Bezos just keeps throwing money at them, thus ensuring they won't fail even if no one believes them.
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>>130686087
I love my country so much lads.
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>>130689837
Make it happen Sven. Convince Pewdiepie to come home and save his nation. If he ran he'd win.
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>>130686087
>8-0
wew lads
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Doesn't pretty much any place that preaches islam become illegal with hate speach laws?
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SHALL
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This is good! I don't care what side you're on, stay away from the First Amendment!
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>>130690425
No, because the (((human rights))) laws which inform hate speech laws include islam as a protected minority caste.
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While Europe shits itself, we still hold onto something.
It's like I've been saying. The best Euros bugged the fuck out of that rotten continent the moment passage opened up for them to escape their kings.
They braved the seas on an uncertain journey to a new land. Say what you want about us now, but we're still holding on.

We have our guns, we have our speech, and soon we'll have our weed again.
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>>130689806
He mad.
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If those are real quotes from the author then that has to be one of the most unprofessional legal articles ever written, holy shit. Were the offer even remotely familiar with SCOTUS precedent then this ruling wouldn't come as a surprise. In fact, it's so by the books I almost wondered why they took it on, but then I realized people write shit like this so I'm sure the court wanted to issue a reminder. Really says something when the ruling was a unanimous one
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>>130686087
No shit. Ruling against this would have been one of the most significant cases in American history. The supreme court may be a piece of shit sometimes, but this was an 8 - 0 ruling. Sometimes I'm proud to be an American.
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>>130686087

This is why we laugh at the Euros.
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Too bad the internet was moved to the UN
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>>130686087
So calling someone a nigger and getting your ass beat isn't your fault anymore? More blacks in jail now? Greaaaaat.
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This are going to get interesting when the new Supreme Court Justice finally gets a seat in the SCOTUS.
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>>130690425

Doesn't count for them. Same with their businesses that dont serve gays.
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God bless your beautiful country, Ameribros.
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>>130689944
>counsel looking for hate speech exception bases whether her proposed restriction is narrowly tailored on a set of facts virtually mirrored in other content-based discrimination
>she acts surprised and indignant when the court doesn't buy it.
>WaPo:"I-it's just mine!"

Nah cunt, it's just a shitty attorney with a shitty argument who apparently only has a passing familiarity with whatever SCOTUS rulings were on the back of her FruitLoops box that morning.
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>>130691159

The cops might just ignore your ass if its a light beating.

Also judge might just downgrade it to a slap on the wrist if you are enough of an asshole.
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>>130691159
If you say something to someone that you know, or should know, will incite violence against you, the assailant might be able to mitigate. It's not always the case, but even the law makes minor concessions for cunts looking to get smacked.
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OH SAY CAN YOU SEE
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>>130689516
>>130689806
This is the end result of postmodern critical theory.
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>>130689806
Just saying that hate speech isn't free speech
What really got me was that he called the conservatives Orwellian
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>>130687802
its like they dont have beliefs, they just gotta disagree with us
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>>130689516
>lefties call people who like free speech "orwellian"

lol
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>>130691626
Incitement isn't protected speech but has to be be provably inciting.
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>>130686087
>story by the gamergate laywer who pro bono defended Eron Gjoni from the predatory rulings in favor of Zoe Quinn AKA CHELSEA VANVALKERBERG
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>>130687004
Yes, there are even leftists in the comment section that are pretending that "right-wingers" are the ones trying to silence "hate speech."

People who read WaPo are fucking retarded
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>>130686087
Things like this are why I'm glad I live in America.
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>>130687004
They simply cannot fathom the government or any of thier own tactics being used against them. It's amazing.
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>>130692073
And using the name John McClane.
Motherfucker.
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>>130688456
That IS exactly how they think.
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>>130692161
My bad, I actually didn't mean to invoke incitement of violence but rather the "fighting words" doctrine.
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>>130686087
Archive the post you shill
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AND I'M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN
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>>130692392
Well yippee kiyia we've got a flaming hypocrite on our hands...

Imagine my shock
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>>130692173
>tfw I read the infamous Valkenburg property case

Fucking blew my mind when I discovered that it is the same family. They've been snooty aristocrats for over a century
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>>130686087

Can someone post an archive link? I don't want to support WaPo in any way, even if it's only Volokh's blog.
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>>130691626
so if i call a spade a spade, and the monkey chimps out on me, and i protect my human life from the insane ape, why should i go to prison?
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So I can point out someone on TV, tell his name, his adress, his phone, the time when his kids leave school and the road they follow to go back home, etc... Then accuse him without proof to be a murderous pedo cannibal and order people to go kill him.

Yeah, freespeech without limits is great.
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Leftys want a world like demolition man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4HEEiJuGo
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>>130688038
>hating yourselves
sounds about liberal status quo
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>SCOTUS CONFIRMS: HATE SPEECH IS FREE SPEECH
No, they confirmed that within the legal lexicon, "hate speech" does not exist. It's a meaningless phrase, legally speaking. It's just another piece of leftist propaganda meant to attack ideas. Whenever anyone talks about "hate speech," they're talking about an ambiguous, undefined, irrelevant idea.
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>>130686087
>those comments

RAAAAAAGEEEEEE
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i wish i could kick all these freedom hating faggots out of usa
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>>130692927

That's not what this decision says, but hey, as long as you get to pontificate ignorantly on /pol/, everything's a-OK!
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>>130686087
The butthurt I can't even. America is great, it can be fucking rough but gd it can do a 180 fast
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>>130686087
Meanwhile in bongland
>call a black man a monkey on twitter, go to prison
>leave bacon sandwich outside a mosque, go to prison
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>>130689516
Paradoxes within conundrums within bollocks
John mcClanes hate speech about people who use hate speech is protected under the first amendment so BTFO
Yippee Kye Aye
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>>130690708
Giving protected class status to any ideology gotta be one of the most insane things modern human has done
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>>130691397
>>130691626
I've know some people who've been charged some bullshit like disorderly conduct after getting jumped by a group of blacks. One guy would stay behind to tell the cops he called them a nigger and make a big scene about it.
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>>130692372
>They simply cannot fathom the government or any of thier own tactics being used against them.
The solution to that would be more government and maybe a hashtag.
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>>130692980
That movie is bad, but I still love it.
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I have the biggest fucking freedom boner
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>>130689013
nigger are you retarded, they voted to leave the EU and Cuckistan/Germany wont let them
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>>130692927
well yeah you can do that. I mean you call anyone anything you want. Its your credibility on the line.

We are sorry that you don't like hearing some things, but here in the US, we believe that everyone is at least granted their own voice to say their piece
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>>130686087
holy shit fucking retards in comments section.

Que the eu liberal kek *well im from norway and here we have special laws protecting against hate speech can't say all muslims die, i hate islam.* holy shit fuck liberals and fuck the eu and cucked nations!!
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>>130692927
> point out someone on TV, tell his name, his adress, his phone, the time when his kids leave school and the road they follow to go back home, etc.
No. This would be like a company disclosing private sensitive information. Unless the information is relevant to something major(like an ongoing investigation) then there is no right to disclose someone's private address and life.
>accuse him without proof
This is also against the law. No evidence = no case. Adamant affirmation of the accusations is interpreted as slander, and is against the law.

The French really need to get their baguettes out of their asses. As a Quebecer(read: the literal europoor of old France) I am astonished by how stupid you all are. At least here we are aware that our government is corrupt and we act accordingly. You people however take it up the ass wayyy too much.
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>>130693757
Who has nukes and US support?
Who doesn't?
The UK needs to man up and deal with the cancer.
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>>130692866
Now you've thrown another factor in. Self defense from an attack resulting from "fighting words" changes the fact pattern. If the self defense was reasonable and didn't result in death, I imagine most jurisdictions wouldn't choose to follow through with charges. Now if the defense was unreasonable, say shooting someone when they threw a single punch, then you might face manslaughter charges. If you're in a state with no duty to retreat (media titled "stand your ground") then you might have a defense provided the jury doesn't consider your incitement as initiating the conflict. If they do consider it initiation, then you have an imperfect defense and might face a lesser murder charge (manslaughter). All of this also assuming the defense was reasonable. Even in states with no duty to retreat, unreasonable self defense can result in manslaughter type charges.

It really depends heavily on the facts and jurisdiction for me to give you a proper answer
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>>130686087

And why should fascists on /pol/ care about free speech?
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>>130693733
>fries on the floor
This kills the boner
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>>130692927
>order people to go kill him.

Incitement to violence is a crime
Reckless conduct is a (common law) crime
Already illegal
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Why are Americans forbidden from threatening violence, sharing child porn or reproducing copyrighted content? Are there exceptions for all these listed in the first ammendment?
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>>130693391
It's worse than that
You don't have to do anything hate motivated (and saying what you did was ironic doesn't work)
Because you've commuted a crime under the 2010 Equality Act if anything you do or say is prejudiced or PERCEIVED as being prejudiced by any witnesses.
Literally thought crime, and it doesn't even require a thought. Accusation is proof of guilt - case closed.

Also note the 2010 equality act is an EU mirror law. It's the same in all 27 countries of the EU whether pol children admit it or not. Bongs are just more honest about it.
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>>130692927
There is still libel, slander, calling for violence etc
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>>130693647
Sounds like your friend either didn't contest the charges because he didn't want to pay an attorney, or had a shitty attorney, because there's no reasonable excuse for that fact pattern to produce that charge.
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>>130694240
And how hatespeech isn't a call for violence ?
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Libcucks were warned about going full retard. They should have continued to normalize the words they don't like instead of being militant about it. We were very close to it before identity politics and victim culture ruined half a generation. Now these grown children are going to have to sort themselves out one day, or stay mad forever.
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>>130694228
Wait, EU hate speech laws, which can result in prison time, DONT require the state to prove mens rea? Your laws allow for that? Holy shit, violations haven't been allowed to carry prison sentences in the US for decades.
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>>130694060
WHAT?
There is a subset of transvestites here who self identify as NAZIs
Did you not know they are all gays?
Pol is a free speech board. Not stormfront.
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>>130692927
kek your ignorance is showing again. Ordering someone to kill anyone would def be a call to action and said person would surely be implicated in the murder as well. Fucking noob l2law
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>>130694825
Every single one
It's a front for an international bum fun group
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>>130686087

Don't worry lefties, when we finally take power we will shut that shit down right quick
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GET REAL PEOPLE
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>>130694631
what are you classifying as hate speech?
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>>130686087
NIGGERS N SPICS BTFO
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>>130686087
>hate speach is ok.
>still go to prison for thought crime.
What were you thinking?
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>>130693618
If the goal is a stable society it's insane. If the goal is to tilt the scales in favor of an easily controlled slave religion it's brilliant, it's working. These people aren't dumb, they're just ...mediocre villains NWEHEHEHE HEEEE
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>>130695344
Anything I don't like.
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((((((()))))))
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>>130695198
wo the projection is insane i hope these people get help because they all need therapy with this level of disillusion
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>>130694631
HATE SPEECH IS NOT A CALL FOR VIOLENCE, BECAUSE THE SPEECH IS WHAT MATTERS NOT THE FEE-FEES OF THE AUDIENCE, YOU MASONIC CRYPTOKIKE FUCK, GO SUCK A RAILROAD SPIKE.
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>>130694227
Those are illegal because of laws so far removed from the bill of rights that I have to wonder if this is the first time you have heard of America.
Do you think murder is protected by the freedom of expression? Do you think toddler orgies are protected under the right to peacefully assemble? Get your head out of your ass.
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>>130692073
>thought policing lefties calling conservatives Orwellian

They are truly fucking lost. Nothing about this case had to do with conservatives. It was literally leftists trying to smash the rights of some gooks
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>>130689516
>advocates censorship
>CALLS OPPONENT ORWELLIAN

FUCKING
WEW
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Congratulations burgers
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>>130686087
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>>130692927
85 S.Ct. 476
Supreme Court of the United States
B. Elton COX, Appellant,
v.
STATE OF LOUISIANA.
No. 49.Argued Oct. 21 and 22, 1964.Decided Jan. 18, 1965.Rehearing Denied March 1, 1965

A man may be punished for encouraging the commission of a crime, Fox v. Washington, 236 U.S. 273, 35 S.Ct. 383, 59 L.Ed. 573, or for uttering ‘fighting words,’ Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire,315 U.S. 568, 62 S.Ct. 766, 86 L.Ed. 1031. This principle has been applied to picketing and parading in labor disputes. See Hughes v. Superior Court,339 U.S. 460, 70 S.Ct. 718, 94 L.Ed. 985; Giboney v. Empire Storage & Ice Co., 336 U.S. 490, 69 S.Ct. 684, 93 L.Ed. 834; Building Service Employees, etc. v. Gazzam, 339 U.S. 532, 70 S.Ct. 784, 94 L.Ed. 1045. But cf. Thornhill v. Alabama, 310 U.S. 88, 60 S.Ct. 736, 84 L.Ed. 1093. These authorities make it clear, as the Court said in Giboney, that ‘it has never been deemed an abridgment of freedom of speech or press to make a course of conduct illegal merely because the conduct was in part initiated, evidenced, or carried out by means of language, either spoken, written, or printed.’ Giboney v. Empire Storage & Ice Co., supra, 336 U.S. at 502, 69 S.Ct. at 691.

You used to understand these ideals, France... the West has failed you.
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>>130686087
libshits completely btfo.
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Meanwhile in UK
http://archive.is/D4Laf

America is the best when it comes to free speech. Deal with it, europoors and lefties.
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What a wonderful day for America.
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>>130687004
>Are lefties really this stupid?
no. they're actually more fucking stupid than that and are more brainwashed machines than humans at this point
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
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>>130694631
I hate you. Where's the call for violence?
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>>130689516
>American convservatism is an Orwellian philosophy that is completely removed from reality
Okay which one of you faggots did this?
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>>130686087
>Hate speech made Hitler possible. Contradiction?
That's the plan.

God, it's depressing to see how brainwashed these people are.
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>>130686087
Is the Supreme /ourcourt/?
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>>130688744
You heard the ruling, fellas. It's time to start mass-producing Holohoax redpills
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>eurocucks don't get protected speech
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>xy speech protected by the 1st
you saved so many memes. A shame I can never go back to the US to study them :'^(
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>>130697220
Let's just say they have the best batting average of the three branches.
I'd like to think this decision was in honor of Scalia, known for his quips regarding idiocy.
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>>130686087
Good
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>>130690804
No we just need to do a little fumigating to get rid of our (((termite))) problem and our foundations will be solid once more.
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>>130696664
The fight for freedom in America isn't over anon. We're going to have to purge every Communist professor from Universities or somehow get them to teach instead of preach before we can relax. Allowing the education system to continue the way it is, will mean a constant rotation of impressionable youth having their brains destroyed for a political agenda instead of expanded. Who can forget this lovely NYU professor from the protests a few weeks back?

https://youtu.be/BJa_s_2QX_c
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>>130694036

I went and peeked through the case law after writing this out and discovered that I am I was initially incorrect. If merely your words incited violence which brought about self defense, then you cannot be considered the aggressor. However, your conduct (leaning toward them, stepping too close, "reaching for something," etc) can be used to mark you as the aggressor. On a practical note, if the words you said were racial epithets then I wouldn't suggest submitting the question of whether or not you were the aggressor to a jury and would suggest a bench trial. Not many people nowadays sympathize with perceived "racists"

Disproportional defense will still net you a manslaughter charge at best thiugh
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>>130691078
>8 - 0 ruling
Was Gorsuch not involved in this ruling?
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>>130692927
Slander and libel are still criminal, stupid. Oh, who am I kidding. You're a brainwashed frog. Boiling in a pot of mud and shit.
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>>130698046
Case began before he was sworn in
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>>130694228
>2010 Equality Act
What in the actual fuck?
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>>130697818
It's getting there.
Main problem right now is undoing the damage done by Obango et.al.
Especially his lower court appointees.
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>>130696137
>Do you think murder is protected by the freedom of expression?
Is murder considered an expression?
>Do you think toddler orgies are protected under the right to peacefully assemble?
The orgy part probably not, but is there a law against toddlers assembling?

I still don't get why the things I listed are forbidden. They are speech and protected by the first ammendment.
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>>130692927
>muslim education
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>>130692372
>They simply cannot fathom the government or any of thier own tactics being used against them. It's amazing.

They cannot fathom the government being used against them because most of them understand that the media, deep state, and the board rooms of most corporations are on their side. They know that if they get hate speech legislation in place, it will be used against their enemies, not them.
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>>130695807
exactly. speech is on a spectrum
lol
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>>130697905
Luckily college is swiftly becoming an over-expensive meme. Especially if you're white and male.
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>>130686087

REEEEEE.
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>>130696137
Why are you arguing with a muslim?
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>>130687004
>Are lefties really this stupid?

Yes.
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>>130692927
>>130694631
Holy shit what an abortion of a brain you have.
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>>130686087

>It's comforting to see that our land's highest court has affirmed the citizenry's right to hate.

Are they implying that there should be legislation against people's capacity to hold certain thoughts?
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>>130698255
Damn, I thought you were just acting.
Well inciting violence is the only thing you mentioned which touches the 1st amendment, the courts decided that freedom of expression does not protect one's right to instruct others to commit violent crimes. Child porn is illegal because of child abuse laws, nothing to do with 1a. Copy written materials are covered under property or intellectual property laws, not the 1a.
No rights in the bill of rights are absolute. If they were I could "keep and bear" nuclear weapons and tanks.
It all goes back to the founding principle pf checks and balances; no rights can be fully unrestricted and function in a lawful society.
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>>130686087
This is a good thing, based SC upholding my right to talk about how evil and demonic honky-ass albino crackers are
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>>130687802
>Why are they mad tho?
About privileges. hate speech laws = privileges speech laws for chosen nation and privileged social groups.
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>>130686087
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>>130686087
Anyone actually bitching about that's an idiot. But bear in mind that it means you're allowed to be called mean names back and face consequences for your words.
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>>130698255
See
>>130696480
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>>130698557
Good point.
I hope our countries remain at peace, Chinabro.
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Europoors will never experience this kind of freedom
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>>130699119
>and face consequences for your words
If any leftard faggots try and fuck with my property or threaten me I'll blow their goddamn heads off.
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>>130687004
>Are lefties really this stupid?
No they just always think themselves as janitors of Gulag not inhabitants. Somewhere they are right as all Gulag janitors were lefties but not all inhabitants.
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>>130698454
>college is swiftly becoming an over-expensive meme.

Not disagreeing with that, but it's only the case because we haven't prevented it and we aren't doing much to stop it either. Universities weren't and shouldn't be a place for gullible to become radicalized. It's a place to learn and get an education. Unfortunately, the good parts about college from past days, like becoming an intellectual, has become to equal having a Marxist view of the world instead of a just one. It's not surprising to me that we hear a lot of the same words being used over and over to justify their programmed views, like "uneducated" or "not logical." They've taken these programmed Marxist views and values and added elitism to it.
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>>130699344
why do you think our ancestors left that shitty continent?
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>>130698345
>most of them understand that the media, deep state, and the board rooms of most corporations are on their side.
Wrong my dude, they think those institutions are on their side but really they are on the side of those institutions. They, progressives, have no control over them. In fact, progressives are used by those institutions as validation through support. make no mistake, the body of common libtards is not the source of the narrative.

The voting base of the Democratic party is just the ass pulling the cart. In the cart is the Deep State educating them, entertaining them, and informing them.
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>>130699344
Britbongs will never tell a Muslim to their face that Muhammad was a child molestor.
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>>130689516
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>>130698193
I know of at least 10 30ish lawyers with decorated records, connections to a certain retail Corp that wields influence, and, most importantly, skew toward limiting the federal government. The likelihood for many of them to receive a federal judgeship is high.
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>>130686087
Freedom of speech is important.

In Europe, there is no full freedom of speech. We are not allowed to express our opinion for fear of imprisonment. I could for instance not say "All negroes should stay in Africa". This would be considered hate speech punishable by up to 10yrs in prison here.

People who want to meddle with free speech would probably also imprison and kill people who are "different" to them.
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>>130698990
So the SC can just decide one day that hate speech does not fall under the first ammendment.
>It all goes back to the founding principle pf checks and balances; no rights can be fully unrestricted and function in a lawful society.
Sounds more like the founding fathers should have made better laws that don't need constant "interpretation" that completely contradicts them.
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>>130698990
>No rights in the bill of rights are absolute. If they were I could "keep and bear" nuclear weapons and tanks.

Actually, they ARE absolute. The Constitution and Bill of Rights are the supreme law. Rules for the government to obey, without exception.
You actually can own a tank. And a nuke. The latter you could never in a million years afford or waste money on if you could afford it. You would need an ATF tax stamp for it, and technically that is unconstitutional.
Government will violate the BOR any chance it can get, and it often gets away with this. The Second Amendment has no exceptions, and no government in the US is technically allowed to make any laws at all infringing the right of any US citizen to keep and bear any arm in existence.
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>>130699407
You and your impotent microdick aren't going to do jack shit, white boi
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>>130686087
america lives to fight another day. thank god
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tfw not a burger
tfw no freedums
;__;
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>>130689806
He basically
>Freedom is Slavery
'd
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>>130699856
>This would be considered hate speech punishable by up to 10yrs in prison here.
Then what the fuck are you doing still living there? And yes, communists will try and kill you for wrongthink once they've gotten enough power to get away with it. It's happened before, and it's the same (((culprits))) trying to do it again this time.
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>>130699904
Sounds like you don't live in a free country.
Don't worry, it's out fault, we didn't leave enough freedom behind last time.
We'll free the fucking shit out of you in our life time, just hold on.
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>>130699844
Now, yes.
But during Obozo's tenure, he focused on making lower court appointees rather than the big SCOTUS ones. Kagan and Sotomayor could have been a lot worse, but he went more safe with them because of congressional approval chances. With lower courts, it's easier to slip in snakes to do your bidding.
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>>130699904
Do you have any examples of when SCOTUS has ruled in a manner that guts the spirit of a constitutional provision so fundamental as to be considered the cornerstone of our nation? I find it unlikely you do, and we're such an event to occur, we would be more concerned with the location of the revolution's Frontline rather than a civil violation.
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>>130699911
Well cool I admit I thought the concept of checks and balances applied to our rights as well as the functions of the gov.
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>>130694631
Saying "Islam is a harmful religion that encourages physical violence against nonbelievers and the women and children of Islamic societies" would be considered hate speech by liberals, because it's "Islamophobic," by saying that they aren't peaceful.
But how does this call for violence? I didn't say to hurt or kill Muslims, I said they're hurting others. If someone acted after hearing my words and gave some radicals a taste of their own medicine, that would be a completely different incident of their own autonomous action.
Liberals think there's some magic line to draw that protects their specific "nice" beliefs, but as soon as they accidentally step over the line, they'd be thrown under the bus as well. If one said "The practice of mutilating young girls' genitals is horrible and should be stopped immediately," now they can be punished as well if a muslim man takes offense to this and says that the liberal is insulting his religion.
There's no way to draw a line of what's "progressive" enough to be allowed, and liberals all have varying beliefs on sexual degeneracy, crime, punishment, law, and everything anyway.
Better to just accept all free speech and not live in an echo chamber where people can control your life by fear of accidentally saying something against the manufactured narrative.
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>>130686087
1st Amendment is literally the only reason Murrica still has an ounce of Gods protection IMO. God Bless your 1st and 2nd Amendments.

>t. a jelly LEAF

P.S. please nuke us
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Repeat after me

Hate speech IS free speech!
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Well I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. Free to deny the holocaust and laugh at refugees.
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>>130700607
Don't worry, we're slowly bringing our special version of freedom to you.

>as long as you dont insult the party you can say what you like

I could go to BeiJing and shout "all niggers and jews deserve to burn in hell, lets go kill some" and no one would give a fuck
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>>130700789
Yeah but if you claimed you wanted fair representation in government you and your family would be thrown into a reeducation camp. Not really a desirable compromise.
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>>130700647
Ok, Mr.63%
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>>130687802

What? I don't hate anybody except for white cis-male shitlords. Fucking scum.
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>>130699718

I was responding to a post that talked about "lefties," not "the voting base of the Democratic party."

The left has won the long march through the institutions. In order to get the qualifications and credentials to have influence in the government, media, or corporate world, you have to prove your acceptance of or even devotion to what are essentially SJW tenets.

"The voting base of the Democratic party" doesn't matter. It doesn't sound like we are in disagreement. My point was, and remains, that the left understands that the media, deep state, and board rooms are all on their side. They want hate speech laws to be able to punish heretics, and they know that such laws will be used against their opponents.
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>>130687004
Progressives not leftists.
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Lot of folks don't understand what's meant by "Free Speech"
It means you can't be charged for saying any words in and off themselves.
"B-but calls to violence"
The call to violence will be used as EVIDENCE that you intended to commit a crime. You're not being charged for saying the words in of themselves.
Lot of dumb folks here seem to think if you confess to a murder you won't have your words used against you.
Fuckin Morons.
Anyways, GO 'MERICA!!!!!!
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>>130700583
>because it's "Islamophobic,"
Even though it's a bullshit term and even the guy who made it up stated that Muslims don't integrate, but the left still use it and their sheep keep eating it up.
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>>130689516
Did this guy have a stroke while writing the comment? WTF?
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>>130700531
Not TECHNICALLY. We allow some checks because no one wants some multiple convict getting ahold of an easy semiautomatic pistol.

I'm a felon myself, but I understand how people might not trust me, based solely on the fact I've had a run-in with the law, to have a firearm.
Granted, I'm with guns and not a violent person at all, but most felons are not like me. They're troublemakers who seem to have mental stability problems.

Me, if I want something, I get it regardless of the law. To that end, I do it quietly, without causing trouble. I do not start trouble, I go out of my way to mind my own business and not act like an asshole.
And with maturity I've found out the simple truth. If you're not causing trouble, you won't become a target. Laws don't need to apply. The only people who need laws are people who actually cause problems. In those cases, the law does its job, allowing victims to seek compensation(justice) for damages.
In my youth, I got busted because I made a mistake. I made a scene. Harmlessly, but illegally. I don't make scenes anymore, and thus I don't run into legal problems.

When you're not an asshole, laws don't have to apply to you because you're not posing a problem. And thus no one knows you're breaking the law to begin with.
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>>130690958
Didn't this case come out of the 9th?
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>>130701578
Right on. Like my old man used to say, be good or be good at it.
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>>130700647
Fellow burger, I believe you've stumbled on a hit. MAKE IT GO VIRAL COLLECT CONTROVERSY SHEKELS.
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>>130689944
Yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre is an example of content based restrictions on speech
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Funny that the only time something is hate speech is when a leftist dislikes what's being said.
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>>130701364
FREE SPEECH MEANS FUCK YOU NIGGERFAGGOT SUCK MY FREEDOM DICK THIS HERE MEME MEANS IM GONNA SHITPOST ALL I LIKE AND THERE AINT JACK SHITFUCKERY YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT..
CUNT
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>>130691682
I like this post
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>>130701983
Age brings rationale. As do psychedelics and time alone to contemplate right and wrong.

I realize now. Cops ARE assholes, like I've always thought. BUT, they're assholes because, at least here in the US, you need to be an asshole to deal with most criminals. Violent sociopaths and people who can't understand that actions have consequences cannot be handled with kid gloves. We need asshole cops. I wouldn't want a pussy police force if we must have a police force. In this country, with the nog problem, you either get rid of cops altogether and let society purge the fucks, or you have asshole cops who won't let Tyrone rob a store without the threat of death.

To that end, any store owner saving us tax money is a true hero. He's not paid to defend his store.
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>>130692927
Le Strawmonsieur
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>>130686087
Fuck, Merica is awesome
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>>130690055
To be honest, all he needs is them to defend Amazon. The rest of the garbage surely doesn't matter
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>>130686087
Hate/good speech = free speech
There, no need for that long article.
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>>130686087
http://archive.is/hfgNn
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>>130700478
Well what about the restrictions of the first ammendment I mentioned? How is child porn not considered protected under the first ammendment? I mean the pictures/videos, not the act of producing it. If you're going to say it's illegal, because a crime is committed to produce it, beheading videos and many more such stuff should be illegal too and Mohammed using his Allah given right to fuck his 6 year old bride in some Muslim country is technically not breaking any right anyway. The reason nobody revolts against it though is that there is massive agreement that it should be illegal and that outweighs the first ammendment. For the same reason hate speech can become illegal, if they keep up the fight against it and demonize it to the same degree as child porn is.
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So now it is official.

FREE SPEECH IS A HUMAN RIGHT.
ANY COUNTRY THAT RESTRICTS FREE SPEECH IS VIOLATING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF ITS CITIZENS AND IS A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY BY DEFAULT.

Spread this message far and wide.
Virtue signaling regressives care more about
appearance than their ideology.
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>>130704004
These are laws piled on atop the documents of which we speak, so, we will probably need to have those specific discussions some other time. For now. It's CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED for me to wear a
GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW
t-shirt...but not for you!
NO NO NO NOT FOR YOU!
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>>130704048
So the UK is third world now?
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>>130704048
>ANY COUNTRY THAT RESTRICTS FREE SPEECH IS VIOLATING THE HUMAN RIGHTS OF ITS CITIZENS AND IS A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY BY DEFAULT.
so every nation that isn't the USA?
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>>130704004
Of course the laws can change. If the scotus had voted the other way the laws would have changed. What point are you even trying to make by pointing out that the laws can change?
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>>130703998
underrated
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>>130686087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdDdeS997hM
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IT IS TIME TO FIGHT BACK AMERICA
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>>130704546
Old news, where have you been? Germany is like 4th world though, so you have that.
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>>130704546
Yes
>>130704573
Obviously
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>>130698345
Once the commie jew whatever has power, those kinds of people are the first to go. Lined up and shot. Outlived their usefulness.
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>>130702571
Truly
>you're elegant and alliterative shitposting doth alight comfortably on my eyelash spouting it's hate filled non-sensical american nationalism... and I tear up, proud also to be a motherfucking goddamn American.
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>>130700647
Full version plz
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>>130689806
People like this just need to be killed, badly.
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And this is why the US will forever be the superior country.
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>>130704573
Honestly, since this is the only nation on earth where a man's right to own and use firearms to defend his life/family and property is protected by law, YES. We are the only technically civilized country. And you'll find that areas of white supermajority(parts of New England, Upper midwest) have among the lowest rates of crime on the face of the planet and are the absolute model of human civilization that exists in this world.
No part of Europe can really compete with New Hampshire.
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>>130692927
hahaha that's not freedom of speech that's conspiracy
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Start submitting applications for refugee status/asylum in the USA.
State free speech/human rights violations as your reason.
Applications from Great Britain, Germany and France
are HIGHLY ENCOURAGED.
Make the news faggots. Save your Countries
and Peoples.
Symbolically beg the United States to stop
the horrible human rights violations being committed against your people. It will Red Pill
the fuck out of millions of people.
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>>130693757
>Cuckistan/Germany wont let them
Of course they won't. It's not like the brits can do a damn thing about it
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>>130686087

What the fuck happened to the left?

I can remember when they were the ones who cared more about free speech.
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10/10 America. I'm proud of you.
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>>130705328
The closer we stick to our original Constitution, the better off we are.
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>>130705766
>What the fuck happened to the left?
Women and men trying to score points with them in order to get easy cunt.
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>>130702332
no, that's a time, place, and manner restriction. You can use the word in any context other than fraudulently yelling fire attempting to cause panic or alarm.
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>>130705595
>giving us free rein to free the everliving shit out of europe again
i'm entirely ok with this.
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>>130705766
That was only ever smoke and mirrors.
Republican examples of Freedom:
Abraham Lincoln
Martin Luther King Jr.
Donald Trump

Democrat examples of Freedom:
No examples were found...
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>>130696997
It was me...lol.
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>>130692927
Conservative hate speech:
"Muslims are filthy goatfuckers."
"Jews are the cancer of society."
"Niggers are the lowest form of existence."

Where is violence being incited in the previous statements?

Liberal hate speech:
"I came here to get 100 Nazi scalps."

See the threat of violence?
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>>130706139
Bruh, just listen to how smoothly it will roll of
Donald's lips while simultaneously becoming all
encompassing.

FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES
>(like the United States)
WILL NOT BE LECTURED OR BULLIED BY
3RD WORLD NATIONS THAT COMMIT
HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS, SUCH AS RESTRICTING FREE SPEECH, AGAINST IT'S OWN CITIZENS.

The potential for this line of reasoning against the left is almost endless.
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>>130695983
Dems call of their supporters daily to "resist" Trump. Due to recent events, isn't this inciting violence? When do lock up Bernie?
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>>130695198
This was me too...lol.jpg
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>>130694228
>2010 Equality Act
What?
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>>130707111
Don't stoop to their childish level.
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>>130704546
Is that rhetorical?
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>>130692927
Nothing about that is hate speech and falls under plenty of other laws

>hurr durr im just pretending to be retarded
LARPing as a tard is still being a tard.
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>>130687004
For some leftists love being policed.

They want their speech to be policed, they want to be given handouts from the government, they want to be kept on a chain.

It's like some weird form of sadomasochism.
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>>130694746
>Wait, EU hate speech laws, which can result in prison time, DONT require the state to prove mens rea?

Nope, if someone finds it offensive, then the state will assume it is so. End of.
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>>130699780
Muslims blown the fuck out and they can't do shit about it
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>>130707953
They just want to become domesticated lap-dogs with no personal will and everything provided and comfy always. So you know... they're pathetic.

We all (generally) thrive on struggle and overcome obstacles. We want things to be hard so that we become better and more capable of dealing with any reality we find ourselves in, not just our little closeted furry jail cell lined with pictures of things we will never have while a little robot jerks you off to the tune of whatever k-pop is the rage...

sorry kinda trailed off there...
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>>130692927

>this is what liberals actually believe would happen with free speech.

In an actually free society you'd be free to say it, but people wouldn't want to associate with you or your associates, so it wouldn't be a problem compared to what's already going on today.

Banning free speech doesn't eliminate crazy people, it only silences actual discussion.
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>>130704973
WOE UPON THE biscuit-cutter WHO SHALL endeavor TO alien YOUR RIGHT TO shitpost.
AMERICAN REVOLUTION 2: EPIC GET BOOGALOO.
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>>130705766
I don't think so. We've had republicans attempting to violate the establishment clause and trying to get certain entertainment material banned, but dems have always been the anti-free speech party.
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>>130704004
They will try, likely in vain. The 1st amendment is firmly entrenched in the very core of our country. While I could, in the same way the courts have, outline why your examples fail to present any cogent legal point, I'll simply say this: any American with an ounce of awareness knows that the revolution begins when the invidious hand of state censorship begins to take grip.
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>>130686087
>LEFTIES ARE GOING ABSOLUTELY NUTS IN THE COMMENTS SECTION

I'm so old I come from a lefty position where free speech was a heralded virtue we didn't have enough of. Because back then the government was (by modern standards, not by party) conservative.

The progressive left needed free speech to criticise government and the conservative people.

Now they've been in power (again not necessarily by party) for some time and done a 180 on the topic.

I want to congratulate you for having the balls to stick to one of the few amendments you're not currently fucking up. I wish we could follow your example, but I also know that we won't. At least we're not the UK.
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>>130707968
This is literal tyranny by the majority, or just outright tyranny
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>>130686087
Really jelly of you dixies.
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>>130711347
Seek asylum in Burgerland, sempai. We long to reunite with the crumpet-munchers across the pond.
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>>130705072
All the fags in San Francisco and the heebs in Miami. All the coons in Chicago, and illegals in Corpus Christi. All the single women on Reddit turning their kids gay, they forget that the Constitution was specifically made to protect my right to say:

That I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. Free to deny the holocaust and say no to refugees. And I'll gladly stand up against any commies trying to take my right to say. Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the USA.
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>>130687004
Chinese spy
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>>130694631
and what if it is?

go kill some refugees bad mannered french dude.

there's a call for violence, now what? you're a mindless drone zombie so if you actually go and kill some refugees it's my fault?

not how humans work.
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>>130686087
tfw american
feels good man
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>>130711711
DO NOT SEEK ASYLUM HERE. STAY AND FIX YOUR COUNTRY.
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>>130713041
Only a revolt with a guillotine will fix this country.
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>>130686087
The Slants

God bless Asian Americans.
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>>130686087
Where is based Norwegian archiver?
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>>130692927

>but what about this extremely specific scenario

get fucked commie
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>>130686087
>This ruling says people I disagree with can keep talking! How dare they!
It also means that they get to keep talking shit too... Do they not realize how retarded they're being?
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>>130689516
>"Speech about 'age' is hateful"

>A: "Hey bro, when's your Birthday again?"
>B: "OMFG, Hate Speech! Age is a social construct and discussing age is problematic and agephobic! You're such a bigot! Please do not assume my date of birth, I identify as Trans-Generational. Guh!!!"
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WTF I LOVE HATING ISLAMIC NIGGERS NOW!
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>Asian band calling themselves slants end up affirming in common law precedence there is no exemption of hate speech in freedom of speech

All the more amazing the wise latina sotomayor and Ginsberg actually voted in support of freedom of speech.
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God fucking bless the USA
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Reminder to never surrender your free speech meme, Burgers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-40347813
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>there are "men" on this planet that aren't allowed to go to the town square with a high capacity baby seeking assault gun over their shoulder and yell through a microphone that non-whites aren't human and do not deserve rights
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>>130713229
IS THAT A PLAN OR ARE YOU TELLING ME YOUR TUMMY HURTS, HM, FAGGOT?
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>>130689384
THIS!
>THIS
this!
>this
THIS!
>THIS
this!
>this
THIS!
>THIS
this!
>this
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>>130711840
ToP KeK!
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>>130714304
Well islamophobia is slowly raising, hopefully someday.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jun/20/anti-muslim-hate-surges-after-manchester-and-london-bridge-attacks
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>>130715028

https://archive.is/o7eZZ
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>>130686087
>>130687004
>Are lefties really this stupid?

worse, ignore, turn back on, and shun them from society
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>>130713897
I wish someone would stick with their opinion no matter what the laws say and keep getting sent to prison their whole life over it. It would look great in the history books and put the rot on display. Brits should be shamed for hundreds of years for this medieval heresy shit.
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>>130715067
THANK YOU BASED ARCHIVE NORGE
>>130715028
You call it islamophobia one more time, I'm going to call you impolite and insult your ability to queue, is that clear? Miscultural migration is the corner stone of a the destabilization agenda of the foreign aggressor...
Miscultural migration is the corner stone of a the destabilization agenda of the foreign aggressor. or to put it in your pocket....
Miscultural migration is the CATALYST of the fall of THE CROWN.Miscultural migration is the CATALYST of the fall of THE CROWN.Miscultural migration is the CATALYST of the fall of THE CROWN.
Miscultural migration is the CATALYST of the fall of THE CROWN.
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>>130711840
first rate
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>>130689516
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>>130715502
>I wish someone would stick with their opinion no matter what the laws say and keep getting sent to prison their whole life over it.
Ok, go ahead and do it.
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>>130715826
Yeah the muslims will probably going to try to execute the Queen eventually.
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NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER MUSLIMS ARE NIGGERS NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

NIGGER!
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>>130689384
fake news this is the opinion

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/16pdf/15-1293_1o13.pdf
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>>130689516
I can't believe this isn't a troll. The obvious invocation of doublethink while making a reference to 1984 is too ironic to not be on purpose.
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>>130701042
True, but I still enjoy being able to criticize niggers and get lauded by my boss for it
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>>130712139
McDonalds spy
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>>130717151
These people have no sense of self-awareness. Absolutely none.
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>>130686087
USA!
>>130704048
this

Also, obligatory exercise of free speech
Faggot nigger kike chink spick dindu nuffin
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>>130719202
they failed to mention that they have been selling in the EU
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>>130692927
What a worthless contribution to your country you are. Absolutely abhorrent
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>tfw based but don't get the credit I deserve
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>>130688038
yaaas slay queen slay
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