Destiny cuck

>>130679067
Destiny absolutely destroyed you, OP.

>>130679305
>Destiny
>destroying anyone

he literally doesn't even argue, it's nothing but fallacy and dogpiling

>>130679415
No, he destorys retards like you, and you anonymously shitpost butthurt

Cuckstiny is old news in the jewtube community.

Now the vegan community is btfo everybody. That's what's hot.

>>130679537
but i've never debated him

you need to keep that inferiority complex in check, manlet

The people in the chat make me cringe too.
"muh colonialism, muh slavery"
>Africa shit
>Colonisation, Africa is better off
>White people leave
>Africa shit

>>130679537
t. Destiny

>>130679067
He is embarassing

>>130679067
Destiny v. Molyneux when?
I missed the Destiny v. Sargon debates.

>>130680211
At least admit he destroyed Sargon.

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>watching literally whos on youtube argue with each other

WHY

>>130680521
destiny is /ourguy/ faggot. and i get off on aussie accents.

>carpet cleaning is the same as construction dawg

>>130679067
The day this manlet dies I'm gonna get shitfaced drunk to celebrate, and I don't even drink. Fuck Destiny and his higher than thou personality. He's the ugly manlet that's always overcompensating, which is why he has to be right and convince everyone about his stupid views. I don't even give a shit about his views, he's scum. His viewers are worst scum though. The day of the rope can't get here fast enough.

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based destiny

>>130681133
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>130680233
Would love this. Molymeme would absolutely destroy his little faggot ass.

>>130681133
What the fuck?

>>130679067
>peepee the frog

I disagree with destiny but he won this won easily. This race guy is dumb as fuck.

>>130681938
I disagree with this post. You're wrong.

>>130681938
Atleast the race realist guy was on right path, Destiny ignored all his arguments, and was passive-aggressive the whole debate

>>130682399
the right path*

>>130682399
Destiny is wrong on this Islamic cultural issue, but this guy has no facts. Ill trust thomas sowell on this issue over some random guy.

>>130682399
that is why Asians are dominated STEM fields right? Yea he is incorrect.

>>130679067
COME ON DAWG
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SAYING THAT DAWG
I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE STATS DAWG
REALLY DAWG??

>>130682582
I believe he actually said Asians are superior in average intelligence than europeans.

>blacks commit more crimes than whites
>blacks have longer sentences for same crime than whites
>muh judicial discrimination

doesn't sentencing take into account criminal history aka second, third offenders? if you commit more crimes in your life as a black man of course you'd get a longer sentence than a first time white offender.

He rejects all remotely right opinions because his parents are dumb boomers.

Preserving white culture? hurpdurp whites have no culture we're all equal you fuckin racist hurpdurp

Stopping illegal immigration? Durrrrrr, fuckin enjoy that wall you trumper hurp a durpa durp

Tariff the chinese? Hurrr dont you know all those cheap tvs will be like 50 dollars more people will starve durpa durp

Bringing jobs back to america? Durrr they'll all be taken by robots if chinks arent doing them you disagree come on skype where il yell like a fucking baby and ridicule you for every verbal misstep

Theres a reason Thorin, someone whose been in esports before esports was a word stopped doing anything remotely involving him, Hes reddit, the streamer.

>>130682859
I dont think they are superior, I think they have a better family unite that provides for that success.

The reason why whites have lost a lot of traction in America and the west is because of feminism and cultural Marxism.

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FREE BOMB JIN

>>130679758
When he said "like you", he was referring to your idiocy, not to you debating Destiny

I guess you proved his point

>>130682873
maybe if we stopped property taxes for everyone, ended the drug war, ended the war. and dumb trade deals every community including the black would improve?

>>130682975
White people tend to be more innovative. The Asian and European mindsets are pretty similiar (hard-working, learning etc).

>>130683335
I love how people think so tribal. Just because some white guy invited something does not mean all white guys invented something. The guy/gal who invents something did it on there own talents and gifts.

People really need to break this tribal mentality but that will never happen because that how we humans are sadly.

>>130682489

His argument against it is "lol why do you care about culture dawg i dont?"

>>130683577
He was talking about culture. He never addresses individuals. Stop projecting.

>>130683727
Destiny is an idiot and has not consistencies in his arguments.

He says its all about cultural at one part of this debate than at the end of the debate he says Islam cultural and mexico cultural is not bad luz.

I am not def this dumb fuck, I am just saying the truth.

>>130683335
post proofs. bold claim. are you hard working enough to find it though?

>>130683858
Like I said I am not going to def destiny because it is hard to, he is a dumb-ass and he is not consistent.

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Man I love reading r/destiny. Full of highly intelligent intellectuals who like to cite studies that rely on and align with broadly mainstream presuppositions.

>>130679067
I dare you to find someone with less self-awareness than Destiny.
>Plays screen games for a living
>15 year old audience
>Dumb
>Thinks his rapping gibberish is debating
>Googles sources mid 'debate' and doesn't understand what he's citing
>Calls opponent uninformed seconds later
>Now thinks he's an intellectual and seasoned debator.
>15 year olds agree

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>>130684426
pics related from a thread where they totally destroy that pseudo intellectual Jordan Peterson.

>>130684426
my problem with these people is that they change there arguments mid debate to sound smart.

If you debated him on race it would go with muh cultural, than if you agreed with him about muh cultural than he would go with no cultural is bad dawg, get over your whiteness.

>>130683966
The proof is in front of your eyes. Go to any European city and you will find old buildings, old statues, old ruins etc (In Rome for example, Pantheon, still stands after 2000 years!). Look at white inventions vs black inventions.

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>>130684939

>>130684939

>Look! Old shit!

Fuck off mate, China is the cradle of civilization not some goat fuckers on the tiber.

>>130679067
look at how his jaw moves. he's a physically disabled turd.

>>130683168
>ended the drug war, ended the war
you'll just get drug cartels controlling the streets and murdering people

>>130684494
He streams for a living.

He has a 20+ year average audience based on polls.

Smart (as much effor as you put on your statement)

He puts out arguments.

He knows his sources, he's read them and understands them. He googles them to give the other debater the link to them.

He calls them uninformed when and if they are.

He's never stated he's an "intellectual and seasoned debater".

When you watch someone who's political ideas you already align with, you tend to agree with them. Same goes for a lot of people on /pol/ watching Molyneux

>>130684939
duh, they had a better cultural thanks to Christianity and paganism.

Christianity provided order and rules unlike what blacks during that time period were worshiping.

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I would love to see Sam tear destiny a new one.

>>130683577
>The guy/gal who invents something did it on there own talents and gifts.
>People really need to break this tribal mentality but that will never happen because that how we humans are sadly.
that guy/girl wouldn't have achieved anything if it wasn't for functionality and prosperity of the collective

>>130679067
I ain't even clicking on that.
It's most likely just him screeching "dawg" in his prepubescent voice for 50 min.

>>130682873
Correct. That and blacks tend to be more belligerent in their crimes. Not all murders are the same.

>>130684604
This is the stuff I'm on about. These kids and their cult leader Destiny actually believe their elementary level discussions (that Destiny often loses) elevates them to the level of putting Destiny in the same sentence as Jordan Peterson?

>>130679758
>but i've never debated him
>but

why do you faggots always type 'but' in a retort here? is that some kind of 'not an argument' faggotry?

it's gay and annoying.

>>130685166
how? not if you build a wall and enforce the laws. Mexico is a shit hole because they don't have a 2nd amendment, and I can make that same argument for Chicago.

>>130679067
When will Destiny debate Ben Shapiro?

>>130685404
but why are you so annoyed?

>>130684721
To be fair, there are a lot of people who pull the same double standards on our side. I really wish we had more literacy here, but at least we're better off than them. It's really important to know exactly where both the enemy goalposts are, and where your own goalposts are.

>>130681133
Holy shit.
Why is he groping that giant's balls.
I mean, it has to be a giant. No other explanation for that size difference.

>>130685338
no, the reason why guys achieved anything was for sex purposes.

a vast majority of time, men only want to be successful for sex.

>>130685066
You haven't came with a single argument, you're retarded.
>>130685127
Civilization came from the Roman Empire.
>>130685280
Your point?

>>130685515
it's not annoying like that. only in sentences where the faggot is denying something.

>>130679067
Why is it "whats wrong with communism?" Destiny only seems to mostly win against these nameless whos and why should I care about a Twitch streamer arguing with some nameless whos?

I wish Destiny would stop posting these threads here trying to get new subscribers/viewers because he doesn't make enough money to feed his daugther (that he would fuck).

He is to useless to go get a real job so he has to whore for attention and basically become the next keemstar.

I would destroy this man in a debate.

>>130685737
simple, the laws that Christianity and early paganism set helped create what we have today. Study the bible and you will see why our cultural is better.

Study Islam and you will understand why the Islamic cultural and middle east is shit.

Christianity promotes individualism and charity. Islam promotes a group welfare mentality, which never works.

These are just two example by the way.

>>130685897
It's just funny to hear his stupid arguments, I don't give a shit about him

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>>130685737
dah chinese asians too have cool building . very ncie building . better building than white. compare very old too much older . good colors too (thousand year old)

>>130683168
>Blacks can't function unless conditions are absolutely perfect

>>130685637
I am not on any side, but yea everyone I think sadly does this. I have done it in the past which is bad.

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>>130685707
>no, the reason why guys achieved anything was for sex purposes.
not only sex, but for your future off spring who will benefit from your creation, your father, your mother, grandmother/father his friends that's your basic collective

>>130684939

The race realist guy who said "don't look at the words, just follow the concepts", or "I don't want to focus on the details". That is what a fucking idiot does; looking at the details meticulously is what an intelligent person does and what science does.Go take a statistics class, learn about what is required to prescribe a causal link in sociology or economics, in other words: get your head out of your ass.

>>130680323
Sargon melted him so hardcore that Destiny started to have autism attacks.
That was the only time I saw him "debating" and after this I was sure I don't want to see more.

>>130686135
it affects everyone, not just blacks. Also you should look into how the property tax laws have destroyed many black communities.

>>130685256
>knows his sources

no he doesnt you shill fag. he literally cited a journal he didnt read in the rape ape debate and came to the opposite conclusion of the article. ape happened to have read that same article and schooled him on it

lmfao

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>>130686392
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>>130686215
yea, individualism/family progress. If everyone thought like that than the global tribe would be great, but I do not promote a global tribalism. I believe in an individualism/family tribe.

By the way what you said there is why I am very anti death tax.

>>130686047
Ofcourse I know our culture is better. And btw when you're talking about the middle east, you should atleast mention Zionism. Our jewish medias make normal arabs look like terrorists when they are not. People supporting Assad for example, would you call them terrorists or people that want a free syria? Israel and Saudi Arabia has fucked up the middle east too hard.

>>130686291
why do you insist on using "white nationalist are dumb for taking achievements of people they had no connection with, be an individual" yet you address blacks as a collective? whats with this double standard?

>>130686481
10/10 argument

>>130686291
So why aren't white people failing? Let me guess, white privilege, lmao.

>>130686554
I think both are dumb. If you interpreted that my apologies.

I cringe with the we waz kangz shit.

does anyone has the desiny autism wemb?

>>130683577
How stupid are they you?

>>130686291
There are poor white communities affected by property tax laws, as well? So what's the issue here? That blacks can't function unless conditions are perfect?

>>130686680
yea they are, due to feminism and cultural Marxism. Last time I looked most of Europe is about to be an Islamic zone.

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>>130686748

>>130685806
But if you don't find it annoying then why are you so butthurt?

>>130679067
Nothing say's "I'm an ideologically-motivated half-wit" like holding up discredited psuedoscience like it proves anything other than your desperate need for basic critical thinking skills. Any credible Psych 101 course will give you all the tools and information necessary to see how "race realism" is the same old box of white power bullshit in a shiny "scientific" wrapping.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u81/Turkheimer_et_al___2003_.pdf

Educational institutes in predominately black communities are underfunded, understaffed,

>>130686850
I think that is wrong.

>>130684494
lol. If you watched any of his debates with real scientists or professionals you would understand that he only dismisses people when they say something really retarded and he is absolutely sure they have no idea what they are talking about (even if they think they do in fact know). When someone shows themselves to actually know something he instantly shuts up and listens and it generally turns into an interview where he just asks questions and learns as much as possible. That's the difference, respect for academics who have spent years specializing and studying rather than putting your faith in ApeShit or Sargon who formulate twisted world views and smugly defend them without supporting them with the proper evidence - and sometimes presenting evidence that in fact counters their claims based on lack of understanding or attention.

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>>130686916
Ty

>>130680611
You're a manlet destiny

>>130686521
but we can't be a global tribe because we live in different environments, different environment demands different policies, that's why even religion is different in different parts of the world

>>130686850
to be fair, white community's are poor thanks to bad trade deals.

>>130684721
>cultural is bad
There are objectively better cultures and objectively worse. Western civilization allows for the freedom to embrace wholly backward ways of thinking, so far as you don't impose your asinine beliefs on other people. We are free to choose which cultural principles to obey, and should not be so ideologically blinded as to keep doing something retarded because of "muh culture muh traditions." Western culture dominates because it allows you the freedom to be great, or to be fucking stupid, and better cultural ideas tend to matriculate through and become mainstream. If you want to be a relativist, go throw away your phone and live in a sentinelese mud hut; you postmodernist cretin.

>>130679067
Don't bring up that autistic fuck. His internet defense force is all out here 24/7 and tries to make him a paragon for their cause that is 2smart4you2understand.

>>130686970
>and it generally turns into an interview where he just asks questions and learns as much as possible

actually this is just cowardice. because after dawson schooled him on syria his response wasnt 'wow i learned a lot' but 'oh man i need to study better so i can school people next time'. he's not looking for any kind of truth or real debate, he's looking for validation and to be the biggest kid on the skype debate playground

this kid is the bread and butter definition of a sophist

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>>130679067
It's so appropriate that the race realist is Australian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBIubgsfK8E

>>130686481
Wasnt that the same debate where Destiny sperged out and abruptly cut it.


>I-i I cant anymore, l-lets play some vidya games

>>130679067
I actually like destiny even though I disagree with him a lot. I like that he says dawg like it's 1995, gives me nostalgia of being a kid.

>>130686860
So if we ended the drug war and property taxes, feminism and cultural marxism would magically go away?

>>130679537
This. Will /pol/ ever stop being BTFO by destiny?

Its embarrassing that a video game streamer can do it so regularly, cmon guys

>>130679067
Stop shilling this fucking manchild.

At least post the video when he fucked that shitty porn star that was doing games streaming for a while.

>>130687123
I dont think cultural is bad, I am mocking what they say. Western cultural is great and I love my cultural.

>>130685316
Sam couldn't argue for shit

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Sargon is really fucking low hanging fruit. That said, whoever this JF guy is, he seems decent and has undertaken to defend Sargon in debates with Destiny. He seems to understand formal argumentation.

>>130686291
niggers are too stupid to pay their own bills let alone property taxes

>>130687199
yea me too I would probably get along wiht him and he would make me seem big even though I'm also a manlet lol

>>130687216
no, there will always be problems but if you look at the data before FDR and LBJ America was a lot better for everyone.

I would be that if Berry Goldwater would have won that election we would not be having this debate.

>>130681133
no but seriously, what the fuck is going on that pic

>>130686970
So I can just see an interview with those academics and circumvent Destiny completely?
I really can't imagine anybody treating Destiny seriously after that Sargon "debate".

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>>130685316

>>130685674
desteny is 5'2

>>130687340
again look into how the government purposely raised taxes in some black communities to boot them out.

I don't want this to occur to any race by the way.

Someone should edit cuck porn captions with destiny's face photoshopped on

You know, like the "canadian cock" ones? Would be funny as fuck

>>130687180
>define sophism as studying and learning more about a topic

>any attempts to expand your knowledge base is now immoral

>join the alt-right and commit ethnic cleansing

>when the world collapses get as close to Trump as possible because his followers are heavily armed and literally think he is a deity

>>130686130
he was talking about black people though

Look at all of these good goys shilling for their manlet

>>130687404
bet*

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>>130687652
yea fuck off snek . cradle of civilization that gave birth to the European coming through.

>>130683091
>force his girlfriend to give him a handjob on stream
>spams nigger in public place in front of blacks
>begged destiny to unban him
nah fuck him

>>130685256
>underage destiny fans shill on /pol/
kek

>>130687609
how else are they going to fund foodstamps and welfare?

>>130687649
see this is what im talking about? this is the sort of 'rhetoric' that gets implied by skype warriors like destiny and his cheerleaders.

this post is so badly worded i cant even tell if he was trying to make a strawman or just didnt read the original post

>>130687916
>force his girlfriend to give him a handjob on stream

link pls

I only like destiny because he triggers the internet right wing so fucking hard

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>>130681303
>>130685674
>>130687453
It's shooped you gullible retards

>>130686945
How? Your original point indicated that property tax, drug wars, foreign conflicts, and trade deals (?) were factors in why blacks can't function. These problems affect every community, but seemingly it's only an excuse for the black community..? What exactly is your point?

>>130681133
Is that his wife's son?

>>130688168
HE. KEEPS. SHRINKING.

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Can he be stopped?

>>130688168
That's still pretty awful desu. Why's he gripping his belly?

>>130688168
>it's shooped guis
>shop.jpg

You can't fool me!

>>130688378
baited the newfag

>>130679067
His viewers in his chat literally believe a high percentage of Africans being good at running is purely cultural not biological.

Move on. He makes money from the attention. Stop giving it to him.

>>130688168
It's still weird as fuck

>>130687529
Go for it pal, Destiny debates people because it is generally more entertaining and he can poke holes in most of the stupidity that pervades the internet. The Sargon debate was exacerbated by their misunderstanding of each other's position and Destiny's increasing frustration that Sargon would not accept that racism in the system existed and still exists to some degree. Then the ridiculous claim that black people just need to get married more while ignoring the many factors that determine marriage or that poverty is creating a lack of marriages rather than lack of marriages making people poor.

I love at the end when he said Trump only won the Cuban vote because of the bay of pigs.

didn't Obama win the Cuban vote?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0uv_VEfIv0

Destiny is an incest supporting SJW communist and SJW cuck. Watch the vid and get redpiled.

>>130681133
This is begging for a blacked shoop.

>>130688858
he only picks the best arguments to win that debate. He has no core values, that is why that naked ape guy destroyed him.

>>130687336
JF understands formal argumentation, but Sargon is not presenting himself as formal and certainly doesn't put enough effort into his random musings for them to be anything meaningful. JF absolves Sargon because he gives Sargon the benefit of the doubt on everything he says and uses the broadest interpretation when it is clear that Sargon is trying to say something specific given the context and social connotation. He defends Sargon like a criminal lawyer when the trial is Judge Judy.

>>130688360
>>130688529
It looks weird and Destiny being short doesn't help his case
>>130688858
How about you watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egoyHzHn8Xk where all of this shit was debunked?

>>130688129
read what you wrote, say it loud..
did you see? you unironically sound like a pussy, even actual commies would agree,

>>130679067
Destiny is my self insert.

>>130688099
the girl was drunk and he made her give him a handjob under his desk, you couldnt see anything but the girl was obviously upset and he cut the stream after 30 seconds
I dont know if anyone recorded it.

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>>130687856
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694
"Population genetic analysis of nuclear DNA
On the nuclear level we merged the SNP data of our three ancient individuals with 2,367 modern individuals34,35 and 294 ancient genomes36 and performed PCA on the joined data set. We found the ancient Egyptian samples falling distinct from modern Egyptians, and closer towards Near Eastern and European samples (Fig. 4a, Supplementary Fig. 3, Supplementary Table 5). In contrast, modern Egyptians are shifted towards sub-Saharan African populations. Model-based clustering using ADMIXTURE37 (Fig. 4b, Supplementary Fig. 4) further supports these results and reveals that the three ancient Egyptians differ from modern Egyptians by a relatively larger Near Eastern genetic component, in particular a component found in Neolithic Levantine ancient individuals36 (Fig. 4b). In contrast, a substantially larger sub-Saharan African component, found primarily in West-African Yoruba, is seen in modern Egyptians compared to the ancient samples. "

"We find that ancient Egyptians are most closely related to Neolithic and Bronze Age samples in the Levant, as well as to Neolithic Anatolian and European populations (Fig. 5a,b). When comparing this pattern with modern Egyptians, we find that the ancient Egyptians are more closely related to all modern and ancient European populations that we tested"
> we find that the ancient Egyptians are more closely related to all modern and ancient European populations that we tested

https://www.google.dk/#q=ancient+egypt+genetics

>>130688093
Ok, let's use your own words against you then.

>His response wasn't, 'wow I learned a lot' but 'oh man I need to study better so I can school people next time'.

>'oh man I need to study better' = 'expand knowledge'

>he's not looking for any kind of truth or real debate, he's looking for validation and to be the biggest kid on the skype debate playground

>his expanding of knowledge is only for my perceived notion that he wants to win an argument

>this kid is the bread and butter definition of a sophist

To Summarize: For his conjectured want to win arguments, by known means of expanding his knowledge, we may call him a sophist.

Sounds a lot like the core of your argument is that expanding his knowledge to have more informed conversations (whether because it validates him or because he wants the truth) makes him a sophist, but I guess I'm just a stupid skype warrior :(

>>130689758
WE

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>>130686481
KEEEEEK

I don't know why people watch this garbage. Nobody is ever interested in sharing ideas and finding truth, they just talk over and past other like they're trying to win something. It's obnoxious to listen to.

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>>130689758
keep up the western journal spam. Wonder how many coloured people wrote that one.

the truth is right in front of your eyes, fuck your propoganda

>>130687180
this

>>130689078
>debunked
There's video evidence of him supporting father/daughter incest.

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>>130690462
>the truth is right in front of your eyes
Yep.

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>>130690703
your flag is evidence of supporting father/daughter incest.

>>130690703
"Is it wrong to fuck your kid? I don't know" In context he was talking about morality and academically defending it instead of just saying "it's bad because I just know it" or "because god says so". I know nuance and understanding is hard :(

>>130689819
You are equating studying with a concern for the truth and while they correlate they are not the same

Destiny wants to learn more so he can avoid pitfalls that would make him look obviously stupid and pick up rhetorical tactics to bolster the audiences perception of his confidence and competence

Studying can simply mean finding more studies that support things he already believes so that the quantity of ostensible evidence outweighs counterarguments

Surely you must think we take the same approach? Finding only information which suits us and discarding the rest

>>130679067
why must you faggots continue to bring this manelts presence up? you must secretly like him imo, stop this

>>130691022
>muh moral relativism

stop

>>130687187
WTF did I just watch?
I just laughed my as off

>>130690703
>>130691022
This basically. I bet if I asked you why incest between two consenting adults is wrong you couldn't present an argument with anything other than "ewww it's disgusting are you for real right now". You have to learn to play devil's advocate in order to better understand certain things

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>>130690462
the truth is more complicated, the ancient Egyptians where indeed western Europeans. back in the day the Sahara was a jungle, by the time of the great pyramids there where still green areas well past the pyramids. As the area became more arid the Europeans left and became more dependent on their friends the Nubians. A racist jerk would got ahah blacks ruined everything but it is more complicated, Egypt's collapse was all about desertification. Current modern Egyptians have not heritage claim to the original Europeans or the Nubians.

>>130691342
Greatly increased risks of genetic illness that compounds with each sucessive inbred generation and also it's an all but certain indication of underlying mental disorders given our natural ingrained instinct to avoid mating with immediate family (an instinct shared by many animals)

>>130684604
>/r/destiny

>>130691716
What if you don't have children though, what if you use a condom?
[spoiler]I'm pretty sure Destiny has said he comes down as opposed to it mainly due to power dynamics[/spoiler]

>>130691959
That's adressed by the proability of it eing the result of mental illness plus that fact that you have now removed yourself from the gene pool - taking a darwinian approach it is even more clearly wrong in that case

the fact that he autisticly refuses to meet anybody halfway or won't accept a premise for the sake of an argument makes these debates absolutely unwatchable

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Every Cuckstiny debate ever.

>>130691058
It is about finding scientific consensus or at least a respected scientist within their field or even a peer reviewed journal studies with your voiced conclusions not exaggerating what the study claims. The alt right has Trump (I doubt many respected and advanced scientists think Trump is well-informed), Milo, ethnostate and misunderstanding the conclusions of The Bell Curve, as well as a diverse portion of conspiritards believing anything on scraps of evidence (they seem to be more prominent in the alt-right, see: /r/thedonald. I see them chant 'reals before feels' while declaring all liberals evil and the enemy (feels pretty feely). The whole underbelly of the group has a racist feel to it as if they are just rationalizing racist feelings with explanations to trick themselves, but I have no idea why they believe what they do.

>>130693189
He is pretty non-neutral on many topics. He is pro-life, pro-immigration, pretty pro capitalism, for gay rights, I assume a gun proponent to some degree since he owns one. Those are about as non-neutral as you can get as far as pissing people from one side or the other off.

>>130692156
There are loads of couples who don't have children though
I don't see the point of a darwinian approach in todays day and age, where the weak end up fine because of modern medicine etc

>>130692156
Why is it wrong for two adult siblings to fuck with a condom on? Incest is not classified as a mental disorder btw and even if it did do you think people with mental disorders shouldn't fuck or something?

>>130693640
>>130694005
If the preservation and continuance of life as a whole cannot be said to be 'Good' then anything else, which would necessarily be subordinate to it as so far as we know all experience is grounded in being alive, must also have no moral value

>>130686392
>>130689032

Except Ape is the most obnoxious piece of shit ever.

His videos are pretty much pure degeneracy, I mean destiny is a retard as well, but he doesn't make me want to kill myself.

>>130693313
>Strawmanning this hard

>>130694590
Them commiting incest doesn't mean they are not able to find a spouse and have children afterwards. Do you think everything we do is bad unless it's about the preservation and continuance of life?

Why is it that the economy is the only thing that is important or considered when it comes to immigration from the left.

>>130680233
Never. He recognizes Molyneux and that there's no point in that interaction.

>>130687196
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but it's hard to have a conversation when one person is yelling over you.
What's the point in that? It's reduced to merely an exercise in tolerance.

It's a clever trick to just make the claim that the same study one person uses for their argument just has the opposite claim to it. Not that it makes it untrue, but it would be an easy tactic to use. without even any specifics about why the opposite interpretation is correct, unlike how Destiny could state why Sargon's FBI report about Hitler in Argentina was wrong because it was explicit and short enough.

>>130686942
Just because it's used as a tool to justify racism doesn't mean there's zero truth to it.

>>130690455
because we're among the damned. you wouldn't be here if you were above it all. we're dumb like they are. we can only take these easy victories, and feel petty pleasure in the suffering of our stupid enemies.
I admire Destiny for attempting to create something out of this shit. He's a better man than me. I only have the dream of one day having love in my heart.

The whole point about socioeconomic factors disproving the genetic theory for racial differences is retarded because genetic differences INFLUENCE socioeconomic factors. When you control for those, you are also by proxy controlling for the data you're trying to find. If being poor makes you dumb and violent, and vice versa, then when you take out all the poor people from the equation you also take out all the dumb and violent people, so obviously that relationship isn't going to be there anymore.

This is why you need to use twin studies

If you control for socioeconomic circumstances and factors weebja dinduna of Nigeria is the most intelligent and successful person ever in the world.

>>130696015
If you control for violence and poverty and intelligence then niggers are actually rich, peaceful and smart WHOD OF KNOWN

>>130679067
https://youtu.be/ECAvNSho7gY?t=1982

This was the moment the race realist was destroyed, and he was too stupid to understand Destiny was right.

>>130695446
t. Destiny.

>>130679067
Obviously both of these idiots are wrong

>>130695255
Aesthetic pursuits are not necessarily ad even if they do not contribute to the furtherance of life given that it is the aethetic that has the possibility to make existence preferable to non existence - but when it comes to fruitlessly attempting to satisfy inborn urges you are doing nothing but wasting time and resources so yet it is bad to a greater or lesser degree depending on how much time and energy you waste

Further in the case of sex, the idea that sex is 'just sex' is foolish. Having a large number of sexual partners decreases liklihood of having a succesful long term pairing which decreases liklihood of children and high investment should a child arise.

Further, the social acceptance of would to a very limited extent make the practice more common as it is not hard to imagine that some people are restrained by taboo - this means that the ills descried would e all the more prevalent

>>130679067
Everybody get in here faggots, German police caught spreading fake news >>130695791

>>130696628
That's not news

>>130695446
Is that the guise Destiny is using instead of just having the testicular fortitude to concede he just lost and got BTFO by his own source? Pathetic, he should just stick to DMCAing the unedited videos of him getting intellectually mauled.

That cuck was yelling over his opponent like a caveman more than vice versa

>>130686291
I pay property taxes too and I'm white. What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

>>130696554
inborn urges being categorically different from aesthetic pursuits given that aesthetic pursuits can be enjoyed in themselves and without preexisting want of the thing where as we are driven to things like sex food and sleep by inborn want and so are, for most all cases, doing nothing but satisfying this want, filling a hole, running in place on the hedonic treadmill

>>130696213
He's doing the exact same shit as that Australian fag though. Getting charged more for "the same crime" isn't necessarily indicative of malpractice, because there are more than one way to go about a crime, and the trial could go differently aswell. Maybe black people have a tendency to be unruly and insult judges, maybe when blacks commit the "same crime" they do so more viciously and aggressively leading to longer sentences. "the same crime" I assume just means a general description (theft, homicide, etc) so there are many overlooked factors there.

>>130688531
Your position is fucking retarded. Marriages happens more frequently in developing countries with lower GDP per capita than developed nations. Not only that, despite their higher poverty incidence and higher rates, divorce rates are actually lower these developing nations. In fact, marriage is one of the determining factors that can uplift people out of poverty, regardless of socioeconomic class.

>>130679305
Another mart sharter beeing smug about his ignorance and non-ability to conceive oposing view points. Sad.

>>130697248
The difference is only 10% longer sentences on average I think. Which isn't that much and can likely be accounted for in circumstances such as you listed.

>>130696554
>>130697029
>Further, the social acceptance of would to a very limited extent make the practice more common as it is not hard to imagine that some people are restrained by taboo - this means that the ills descried would e all the more prevalent
This in my opinion is the most important part out of all the things you wrote and this is how you win the anti incest argument. I'm going to look more into this
>If the preservation and continuance of life as a whole cannot be said to be 'Good' then anything else, which would necessarily be subordinate to it as so far as we know all experience is grounded in being alive, must also have no moral value
because I don't think I fully agree with it, do you have any recommended philosophers giving more thought into this subject?

>>130679305
>>130679537
2. You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>>130698486
What part don't you agree with? The line i'm arguing along isn't really articulated by any one single philosopher I know of, it's something I've come up with taking the arguments from several

>>130679067
The Aussie definitely lacked depth in his arguments.

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>Lose a debate to a 9/11 truthing holocaust denier
>Ever expect to be taken seriously again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNw1kt_MyoY


Watch it here so that you don't give Destigoy ad revenue. The little cuck gets smacked around for two hours and literally does not make a single legitimate point even once. This was the moment when Destiny proved himself to be totally intellectual dishonest, because after getting his teeth pounded out by someone who literally wrote the book on big business, the fed and Israeli influence on America, he just pretended it never happened and didn't adjust his position at all.

He's not a debater. He's a scam artist and a fast-talking know-nothing.

>>130699604
Based Ryan

>>130679067
Why is /pol/ and the skeptic community so afraid of this guy?

>actually that study about the economic impact of mass migration says this
>ummmm excuse me what is your background in economics????

>here is information about evolution extending to human beings
>ummm excuse me that's bigoted let me appeal to my authority to get some information at a later time because fuck being prepared in a debate I'm admitting to having no information outside of an appeal to my personal incredulity

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>>130696554
Look into Stoicism, the argument of internal and external factors as well as the rational concept of Virtue pretty much BTFO's all arguments for Moral Hedonism. Well ordered desires are the key to satisfaction in life, not the mindless indulgence of whimsical desires.

>>130699604
why does /pol/ never even mention ryan dawson?

>>130682933
This, I listened once and it was just a laundry list of shill bait from this very board.

Pathetic.

This guy in OP is the only one ever serously approaching fundamentaly beating Destiny.

Unfortunately, he's just an average debater and doesn't know how to push through with rhetoric and call Destiny's bullshit on the spot.

The only way to fundamentaly defeat Destiny (who is a good debater indeed) and his post-Christian mindset is by arguing that people (and therefore groups) are not equal in the first place. Should he acknowledge that his whole worldview shatters.

And the guy is right, if he has any honesty in him he'll either completely switch in 5-10 years or stop debating all-together.

>>130699604
I'm pretty sure Dawson even brought up some jewish conspiracy shit in the debate
Destiny got kind of fucked over though in that it was supposed to be a Trump vs Hillary-debate, and Hillarys foreign policy was what he himself both disliked and didn't know much about. He spent like two weeks after, studying what was going on in the area. He couldn't really refute anything Dawson said as he was talking specifics Destiny knew nothing about

>This was the moment when Destiny proved himself to be totally intellectual dishonest, because after getting his teeth pounded out by someone who literally wrote the book on big business, the fed and Israeli influence on America, he just pretended it never happened and didn't adjust his position at all.
I'd disagree on this. He has acknowledged that he didn't know what he was talking about, he can't "adjust his position" when he didn't really have one in regards to the foreign policy in the first place.

>>130681133
>sitting down side-hug ball grope
Wew lad

>>130700409
Take a look at the thread you're in. E-celeb "polle beeteeeffoh" with 200+ replies. Threads made about Dawson are buried.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCzfNbd1PLw

He seems to have gone off the deep end here.

>>130700409
Dawson is unpopular in the lolbertarian community because he names the Jew, but he doesn't make friends on the /pol/-style community because he refuses to touch on the subject of race. So he's basically invisible despite possibly being the single best informed person in his field.

>>130679305
litterally gets raped by everyone he tries to debate

>>130700216
I've never read any of the stoics, but that pic is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about with the difference between inborn wants and aesthetic pursuits

>>130679415
Yeah our boy here who doesn't understand 'devil's advocate' really 'destroyed' him here!

https://youtu.be/hFP7fSNiwIc?t=480
https://youtu.be/hFP7fSNiwIc?t=830


What usually happens is that while Destiny isn't good at real debates, /pol/ is worse. They usually get backed into a corner and can't understand the argument so this happens:

1) That Destiny is twisting their words
2) 'Dogpiling' them
3) Bullying them
4)polacks start screaming 'shut up' and the like and gives Destiny meme worthy content to upload to this youtube channel
5) repeat

The funny thing is, that guy in the clip prepared for 5 hours on /pol/ feeding him all the best arguments, and not one person told him what 'devil's advocate' was.

he look like that giant from big fish but 4 feet tall desu

>>130694696
Naked Ape did a stream with some "Alt-Centrist", where he explains that he puts on that persona because it convinces people more effectively or something

>>130697465
Didn't you just say that marriage happens and divorce rates are lower in developing poverty-stricken areas of the world as compared to 'first world' countries? You are arguing for me m8. I just said there is no evidence of marriage being tied to success or wealth. It is also more expensive to be married in some countries and I assume each country has laws associated with marriage or stricter punishment for divorce.

>>130701437
>Going on /pol/ and relying solely on memorizing talking points for debate prep

Whoever that literally who is had no business in getting into a debate even with that amateur.

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>>130691252
You don't know what relativism is. I'm arguing for the existence of philosophy, not as a proponent of relativism.

>>130695111
??? Give me a definition of alt-right to work with. The central hubs seem to be Trump supporters or white nationalists or random young conservatives. I'm not sure what the definite principles of the alt-right are, only the members that I see.

>>130699272
Sorry for taking so long to respond but I was searching for a wikipedia article, can't find it though. I don't agree having children is inherently good because many people can argue that bringing someone into this world where suffering outweighs happiness is immoral and bad. Basically the article I was searching was about a philosophical stance where "between two choices if there is even a tiny possibility of the first choice's worst outcome being worse than the other choice's worst outcome, you don't pick it" (not sure if that makes sense), and that could be interpreted as, "bringing a child to this world could lead him into getting, kidnapped, tortured, raped therefore it would be better not to make children"

>>130697248
I was mostly talking about him tearing the other guy's city argument apart not some of Destiny's more bold claims. Nonetheless, I think he usually tries to add that you hold factors constant other than crime, but idk what study he is referencing.

>>130702543
Giving a definition of alt right is basically useless as it can be applied to any number of emerging, youthful, conservative movements many of which are antithetical to each other

The alt right doesn't exist as an entity and includes everything from hoppean libertarians to monarchists, to strasserists to natsocs and everything inbetween and a bit beyond

>>130700409
Against racism, gives Trump some shit, anti-war

I think /pol/ doesn't mind people dying for a just war, but by supporting the best outcome we all end up with aligned interests.
He doesn't like nazism but in practice he BTFO the holocaust, doesn't like Alex Jones but he BTFO 9/11, and to be fair he was very fair with Trump, although he has some downsides he supported him against Hillary, but /pol/ would have supported him even if the dems had a non-psycho candidate, you really can't give him shit for this

I think he's just unlucky that by saying the complete truth he's not eyed well by people with his same opinion

>>130702835
I'm not sure what you mean by "hold factors constant" but I assume you mean adjusting for those "held" factors?

He thinks you control for factors other than crime because he wants to find out the genetic influence on crime. But that doesn't work, because not only does poverty lead to crime but crime leads to poverty. So you can't control for that.

>>130702626
Does sufferng necessarily outweigh heppiness? It seems to me unlikely that you believe that since you ahven't killed yourself though a lack of wherewithall mught prevent you following through on your belief

If we look at the overall trend of the quality of human existence, I agree with Lindy Beige that after the invention of agriculture the trend has been, overall, massively upward - so even if present conditions are not ideal that is not an indication that existence should be abandoned

As to your second argument, I don't think that antinatalism follows at all from that. Are you factoring the rates at which people are raped/tortured/kidnapped or otherwise have an existence that is worse than non existence versus those that have an existence preferable to non existence? It does not at all follow for me that the brute fact of the existence of what we might call 'evil' or tortuous existence means that experiential being should not be chanced

https://youtu.be/srr7BGrMgRs
>destiny gets martin shkreli on his stream to debate him
>gets btfo within the first two minutes

>>130703833
Martin Shekel

>>130700863
Pretty accurate here.

>>130700409
Too nuanced, not enough memes. I plan on buying his shit (he's got some sort of package/deal now) after I finish reading my current books. He's honestly one of the few 'Youtubers' I respect.

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>hahah I win again stupid drumpfers

>>130703290
>gives Trump some shit, anti-war
he's more against Zionist wars than anything, and instantly went from pro-trump to anti-trump when trump went from "it's the right of the Syrians to decide who their leader is" to *bombs Syrian air base*

I think his meme videos are horribly cringy garbage and he says a lot of really naive stuff, but I still thought he would have been more popular than he currently is.

>>130703712
Hmmm I don't know I need to read more stuff on this, thanks for the discussion though

>>130681279
>implying
Molyneux makes non arguments. He would get destroyed

>>130705454
Have a good one

>>130704906
DELET THIS

>>130700580
>That flag
>That post
Time to end it?

He quacks like a cuck

>>130679305
>>130679537
fuck off, destiny

>>130681133
That's not really Destiny. it's a Shoop. Someone put his head on a kid's body, retards.

Just look at his fingers. No grown up man has such fingers. Not even Destiniy.

>>130679067

destiny is like the french boxer from punch-out, he's trying to break into the circuit, but he always loses

>>130707925
LOL @ this damage control from Destiny. BTFO.

>>130706851
>Criminal or abo acting up

>>130679067
>couldn't even beat sargon
JUST

>>130705387
Not talking about that, everyone was against that bombing. I'm talking about during the election, he couldn't help but say all the negative things about him, but of course I'm not complaining, he was right to do so.

>>130679067
Don't have time to watch this right now, can I get a quick summary of the points?

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>>130679067
just make a fucking e-celeb board? but that would not work because they need anons to watch them...can someone please explain this guys shoulders?
I seen ppl without a strong chin or with a crooked back or just general weird body types but this dude makes me feel weird like that turkey shaped dude.
I am not joking when I say this but I have twice the wing span/breatdh of that dudes shoulers.

>>130710992
Wow she is very pretty.

>>130679067
If a black guy is good at playing cards he can win a max of 1000 per month, a white guy just 200. If the white guy does better he is actually the more effective winner.

>>130679067
Destiny is coming for you, prepare anus.

Worse than streamer fags, are people that actually watch streamers. Worse yet are people that idolize or worship them - lowest scum of the Earth.

>>130713331
hmmm... mostly true. only streams I'll sit through are old Quake players because their duel knowledge is massive. it's degenerate yet insightful.

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>>130679067
HOW CAN YOU FUCKING ADVOCATE FOR MASS IMMIGRATION

WHEN YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO THE PEOPLE YOU ARE FORCING INTO THIS COUNTRY YOU FUCKING MIDGET BIG HEADED PIECE OF SHIT

HE IS SUCH A STUPID FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

HURR DURR OF COURSE YOU WOULD WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO WHITE PEOPLE YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE FAGGOT

>>130701437

>implying that you can defeat an ideologe with arguments

How many times does the goim have to bash it's head against the wall before it tries something different.

>>130685707
this is bait

>>130679067

>be destiny

>lose your autistic son to your ex wife who you pay for

>lose your girlfriend to naniwa, an autistic sc2 player

>pay for a bull to fuck your ex wife

>pay for your autistic son

>have a hugbox of liberals on a private chat

>play autistic games like minecraft with other autistic people

this guy is a joke.

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Honestly someone tell me is he a vegan?


because this mother fucker is hitting all new levels of retarded here.

It is almost like his brain is suffering from lack of Vitamin b

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>>130684604
>Destiny is smarter than Jordan Peterson
Is this what Alex Jones was talking about when he was talking about interdimensional vampires? Because Jordan Peterson is a god sent while Destiny can only say "YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS DAWG". Invalid arguments.

I realize how full of shit Destiny is when I listened to the naked ape debate.
So anyone who is on the fence about him, watch the naked ape debate.

Why do you keep giving him attention

LUL destiny got shit on

>skip to random part of the video
>"I won't say it's all culture but it's like 95/5"

Why are leftists and cucks allowed to make this claim without providing any evidence for it?

>>130679067
The only reason I check these e-celeb threads is to see how many kekistan flags there are. I honestly can't believe that there are so many people on a site ostensibly for adults who fawn over Youtubers like a bunch of 12 year old girls. I'd wager that not a single one of you could win a fistfight against anyone.

Stop sucking jewtuber cock, quit worshipping niggers, put the Xbox stick down and fucking do something with your life instead of judging 'debates' between a couple of cunts.

You are the reason the White race is dying.

>>130719192
Are in a position in life where someone currently has a nice life because of you?
If not then you're no better than anyone here.

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>>130681133

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>>130681133
It's real, he has the hands of a five year old child and a tiny head and hes a turbomanlet.

What a faggot.

>>130684604
safely ignore

>Wow like some guy I know totally btfo'd him, so like just don't listen or respond to any of his arguments dawg, he's safe to ignore.

This is how leftists maintain there double think bubbles.

Never seen a guy lose so many arguments, yet his manchild idiot followers won't stop shilling for him.

He's a manlet shut-in who sucks at life, but he speaks better than some mouth breather twitch chat retards so they think he's smart.

I feel sorry for his kid.

>>130701844
Your point was implying that poverty deters marriage. It doesn't. You can Google the information, but it's common knowledge that poverty isn't one of the reasons why Black families don't marry as often.

Asians with similar socioeconomic backgrounds to Blacks and even Hispanic families that are even more poverty-stricken in America have higher marriage rates and stable families than Blacks.

As I said before, married Black couples, even if they are living in destitution, still have better living conditions and higher chances of escaping poverty than single households, especially if they have children.

As for the other point, you do realize that even couples in developing countries who are married are still more wealthy than their average single counterparts, right? It's the same with developed countries as well.

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>>130679067
Destiny constantly switches topic, makes ridiculous non-arguments and picks apart the callers arguments to an autistic level. The reason these dopes he talks to loose is that they won't stoop to his level. They cuck out and let him go into WAY too much detail and constantly derail, but never do it themselves. This manlet is a complete con-artist.

>>130679067
Fuck off with this e-celeb shit. Especially if you post some regressive cucks.

>>130679067
literally who?
why is this person costantly posted on /pol/?
is he being advertised like that other neopol hero milo?