> my ancestor :) Reminder that there are people that believe this

>>130671889
That's a cool tiny weasel, he's make and awesome pet.

>kaffirs
haha lol

>>130672095
Id call mine Mr. Thimbles

>>130671889
t. yahud

>>130671889

Not me.

Im the descendant of some guy who saved himself along with a few animals in an Ark when all the earth became an ocean due to rains.
I was also made to the image of a very omnipotent powerful being that was never seen.

>>130672252
I'd be an atheist too if I lived in poortugal

>>130671889
I've seen some women who must have evolved from a marsupial, because they have a huge pouch.

>>130672252
Fucking global warming.

>>130671889
I DID NOT EVOLVE FROM A PAPER CLIP!

>>130672252
not me

Im the descendant of a man that sees evidence of a global flood and pretends this doesnt help the bible

>>130671889
yep. although Muslims don't.... nor do other religious brain dead idiots, like fundie christians and Jews.

have you a problem with this?

science babe, got to love it.

>>130673582
evidence of a global flood? where?

>>130673838
>>130673937
> oh la la le dégénérate frénch leftiste

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>we all descended from 8 people who survived a global flood that wiped out the entire human population :)

Reminder that there are """people""" who believe this

>>130673937
He might be talking about how just about every culture has a "flood myth." The problem with that is that each flood myth is WILDLY different from the one in Genesis. Furthermore, the fact that cultures across the world HAVE flood mythology is a problem for the biblical flood account, in which everyone except for those aboard the ark were wiped out.

>>130674388
Dude you're using a jihad flag and you're calling the French degenerate?

Kill yourself kiddo

>>130674388
cute (incorrect) use of accents.

Not french, just live here... and degenerate? Accepting that GPS works, and water runs downhill, and all the rest of science that shows that evolution is correct? Accepting all of genetic based medicine and modern biology - degenerate?

What is inhuman, and degereate, is to reject the findings of human science, reject the findings of fact and knowledge.

That is degenerate - that is becoming less than human by turning your back on reality and the good that the truth can give us.

>>130674399
> we wuz marmotz n shiet :)

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>>130671889


This guy is the same species as White people.
Reminder that there are some evangelicals who believe this.

>>130671889
Not me. Im the descendent of 2 humans whose family fucked each other and their incest babies fucked each other sumore until one day one inbred subset family unit of the clan survived a global flood massacre
and then the daughters fucked the father and each other over and over until one day we were all born.

Yeah we all incest babies from the same ancestors. Twice over.

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>>130674711
>we wuz boat builderz n shiet
>we wuz dem chozen pplz by God n shiet

>>130674677
Triggered

>>130674691
>Accepting that GPS works, and water runs downhill, and all the rest of science that shows that evolution is correct
Your fallacy is: False equivalency

>>130674886
Yes you were, but you chose to be a monkey spawn instead

>>130674711
a long time ago... yes. Or do you look exaclty like your parents? exactly like your granparents? have no traits that were present in one granparent but not in the others? have traits that your grandparents had, but not all of them?

even in two generations you can see evolutionary change working - now imagine a million generations. Not difficult to believe if you have any imagination and any education in biology...

(by the way, semen does not come out of your spine and you are never a clot of blood in the womb)

>>130675078
> a zygote isn't a clot
:^)

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>>130675034
No, we wuznt. We're part of an ongoing process called evolution, that takes billions of years. We wuznt onboard the ark, there wuznt no global flood, and it iznt possible for two of every animal on Earth to survive aboard the Ark.

>>130674921
>Your fallacy is: False equivalency
nope.

All of science is connected - it is all physics really, although some will say that it is all maths, but once you have matter, it is physics. and the physics that runs the GPS system and the water running down hill is the same physics that determines evolution and confirms its truth. You deny one you have to deny the others. It is that simple.

>>130674840

This guy is either Somali or Ethiopian.

Why do east africans always have huge foreheads and look the same?

>>130674840
We are different sub-species
>b-but we are all equal under g-d
>except the Jews of course, they're da chosen

>>130675315
Shh, monkey.

>>130675343
>water runs down therefore evolution is real
I don't even know what fallacy that is

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>>130671889

They/them are so close to nature, I am proud of my heritage, why are you?!

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>>130675659
Shh, retard

>>130675748

*aren't

>>130675799
Why the name calling? Monkey isn't an insult, it's what you are, and your mommy and daddy

>>130675659
>A book written by everybody but Jesus, rewritten through the ages, and which content was literally voted for, is true
I don't even know what fallacy that is

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>>130675887
I calls em likes I sees em

>>130675167
Mohammed said that human beings began as a clot of blood in the womb. thank you for agreeing with modern biology and not ancient Greek biology modified by Indian teachings.

>>130675926
> Bible
Look at my flag dumbass

>>130676152
> monkey see monkey do
lel

>>130676160
> zygote isn't a clot
:^)

>>130671889
>Long nose
>Small claws to grab shackles

checks out

>>130675659
>>water runs down therefore evolution is real
>I don't even know what fallacy that is

therefore gravity is real, therefore quantum physics is real, therefore chemistry is real, therefore biology is real, therefore genetic is real, therefore evolution is real - it is all connected. you cannot deny one and have the other. it isn't a fallacy, it is called Science!

>>130676173
The Quran (and its modern interpretation) is even more ridiculous than the Bible

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>>130671889
2qt

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>>130676326
>you cannot deny one and have the other

>>130676402
> modern interpretation
?

>>130671889
All mammals have a lot genetically in common with eachother. Is it unreasonable to think that this happened because of evolution?

>>130676251
A clot is made of blood. A zygote contains no blood.

>>130676438
My little ancestor :) can't be this cute!

>>130676606
Who said aught about blood?

>>130676886
Mohammed did.

one of the many areas about which the Koran is wrong.
which is why some muslims refuse to do courses in medical school that talk about evolutio or genetics - and yet get to pass their medical degree. you could not make this shit up.

>>130677080
You don't know a word of Arabic. Are you le triggeréd? Hope you voted le Pen! :^)

>>130671889
Not me. My ancestor was a bunch of dirt until god came along and did some magic and gave life to it

>>130677080
Lol kaffir doesnt know what alaqah is

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>>130673937
You should go right now and listen to Randal Carlson speak for a few minutes. If you're into the Joe Rogan podcast, he's done multiple episodes and they're all great. Not a biblethumper myself, but there absolutely have been cataclysmic events involving mass-flooding within human memory. Fascinating shit once you let go of your preconceptions regarding it.

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>>130676326
God, the universal consciousness that predated human consciousness by over 14 billion years, and is functioning at the planck scale in the space-time geometry of the Universe is all-powerful and uses relativity, retro-causality and evolution to create whatever the fuck he wants. See Penrose, Hameroff, Orch-OR theory, Zen-Buddhism, Spinoza, etc.

Pic related, God's current research project.

>>130676886
>The linguistic definition of ′alaq علق (singular 'alaqah علقة) is "leech", "medicinal leech", "coagulated blood", "blood clot", or "the early stage of the embryo".[1] ′Alaq is also a derivative of 'alaqa which means "attached and hanging to something." [2] Professor Abdul Haleem mentions that "′alaq can also mean anything that clings: a clot of blood, a leech, even a lump of mud. All these meanings involve the basic idea of clinging or sticking."
Never mind, looks like the verse doesn't mean anything significant. In English, though various liquids might clot, the noun "clot" refers to solidified blood.

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ITT a lot of spiritually dead people with zero conscious contact with God.

Lol

>Be you
>Think synaptic modelling can explain consciousness and memory.
>Be waiting for your AI sex doll because you think human consciousness is being approached by the complexity of current integrated circuits and not realizing it's many many orders of magnitude more complicated, operating at the quantum level at the micro-tubulin intra-neuronal machinery.
>Be spiritually dead.

>>130672095
u cant keep ur relative as a pet silly

>>130677466
Mass flooding or global flooding?

>>130677436
lol modern islamist does not know the history of his language or tha way that it is reinterpreted to fit the facts after the account 9which is the common account of the time and place not some unique divine miraculous account that only Mohammed knew) proves to be wrong.

>>130677244
please stop using accents incorrectly... and no I did not vote for that evil lying power hungry corrupt idiot.

>>130677930
I don't think at any point the entire surface has been flooded, with no dry land, no. But continent-spanning tidal waves? Yeah, there's some fascinating evidence for huge as fuck waves having happened at the end of the last ice age.

>>130678151
Ôh lá lá!

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ITT also, a lot of people who believe in a bearded Sand-Wizard.

>Be me.
>Be tuned into God who is not a Sand-Wizard or a crozz-zombie who wants you to eat his flesh.
>Know God is the conscious Universe
>Visible to the naked eye. All-powerful, As infinite as the Universe.

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>>130677902

Oh?

>>130677888
Thoughts don't operate at the quantum level. At physiologic temperatures of 37 degrees C, the quantum effects are far too messy and unpredictable to give rise to consciousness. You are just spouting off bio-buzzwords, and you still haven't provided any proofs for God's existence, let alone your supposed personal contact with God.

>>130677466
but a global flood would require more water on the planet than exists. you know that right? Lots of little local floods at various times does not confirm the whole Noah shit. it also does not in any way explain the fossil record, or the massive biodiversity that we have on earth now. the flood myth is simply silly - along with young earth and any notion of a personal supernatural creator god who made earth just for us and the whole universe as a background for us to look at.

reality is complex, huge, fascinating and awe inspiring - why confine yourself to a small, limited, nonsensical world view?

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>>130678422
Your contentions are Easily disproven.

Quantum effects are well-known to operate at physiologic temperatures.

Educate yourself a little.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXFFbxoHp3s&t=684s

>>130678346
>bearded Sand-Wizard.
There is none like unto Him.

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>>130678749
Bearded Sand-Wizard isn't infinite, whereas the Universal Consciousness is. Bearded Sand-Wizard is a human-construct/representation of God.

>>130677481
I know you think those words are very impressive and sciencey, but you do know that the idea of the biblical god cannot in any coherent way be translated into planck scale physics. Universal consciousness? what does that mean? these are sounds without coherent meaning - they sound like they should mean something, as individual words have meaning but they add up to nothing. Like "Colorless green ideas sleep furiously" your sentence has no meaning at all, or so many meanings that it is not coherent.
please think about what you are trying to say and say it in a meaningful way.

>>130679026
>the Universal Consciousness
DUDE WEED LMAO XDD

>>130677888
>spiritually dead
what does that mean?

>>130677888
But god doesn't play dice with the universe! Muh 10th commandment!
If there is a god, it definitely isn't the Christian one, or any religion against gambling. That's for sure. Quantum mechanics is literally "god" playing dice with the universe.

>>130676583
All internal combustion vehicles have a lot of blueprints in common with each other. Is it unreasonable to think that this happened by smashing rocks together over and over for millions of years?

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>>130678422
BTW Hameroff SMASHED Tegmark when he tried your argument on ORCH-OR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXBfXNW6Bxo

>>130677888
>zero conscious contact with God.
God speaks to you? and you don't take medication?

again, what does this mean? these are empty words, meaningless sounds.

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>>130679051
Do you hear me spouting the Bible?

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>>130679051
Universal Consciousness means the consciousness of the Universe. Duh.

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>>130679051
Like I said. Educate yourself a little. I've provided the links to the applicable science. Suggest you start with Hameroff's talk to Google HQ a couple of year's ago.

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>>130671889
>>130676438
>>130676615
Top kek keep it up lads, this meme will break the collective consciousness by exposing the ridiculous fucking logic in evolution.

>>130678177
you have no idea how huge a tidal wave would have to be, do you (and no way to even beign to suggest how one would be caused.)

Mt ararat is 5,000 meters tall. You think a wave 5000 meters high swept the middle east and left Noah on the top? where the hell did that water come from, and where did it go? and no, ice melting isn't enough - that just fills the oceans now. You need some way of explaining this - and you don't have one.

>>130679189
> dice rolls aren't predetermined
lol

>>130679583
You can't meme scientific theory out of existence, anon.

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>>130671889
WE

>>130679026
>the Universal Consciousness
means what? again, empty meaningless word salad.

>>130671889

The Wiesel is not my ancestor; It's a distant relative though and I am proud of that. We share common mammalian ancestors.

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>>130679744
WUZ

>>130680028
REPTILEZ

>>130679387
so you think the whole universe is "conscious" what does "conscious" mean? (because it means something for a human being, which has a neural network and sensory equipment and a outside stimulus to react to, but I don't see how that can be applied to the Universe as a whole.)

how is it conscious, what is it conscious of? what does this consciousness mean? does it feel? think? consider? emote? sense? have awareness? awareness of what = itself? its internal states? hoe are these sensed or thought s processed?

nope this sounds like bullshit to me.

Why is evolution so hard to understand for some people?

Evolution is change in allelic frequencies over time. Literally anything changing the broad allelic composition of a population is evolution. It is NOT fake, it cannot be fake just by virtue of what the definition is.

>>130679494
>Hameroff'
ok I will look into it - but I still think this sounds like bullshit. As for Penrose... you know most philosophers think he has lost it don't you? meaningless jibberish...

Here in lithuania our biology teacher was obviously religious, and he spent very little time explaining evolution.
Judging from these threads, it seems that a lot of other countries don't teach evolution properly.

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>>130680131
begone filth

>>130679198
Technically yes.

>>130680779
Epik memes!

>>130680483
> watches magic negro once
> watches wheelchairman once
> watches science jap

>>130681405
muslims are a perfect example that evolution is real. just look at the number of birth defects caused by cousin fucking in muslim countries

>>130681405
What?

>>130681673
Pop sci show references. Sorry if that was too high brow for you

>>130681664
> said the gypsy
LOL

>>130679583
Evolution is a really simple concept m9

>>130681807
>> said the gypsy
racism is haram rajindel, you should blow yourself up to wash the sin away

>>130681807
>pop sci
>high brow

Okay

>>130681964
Of course, your great great x1500 grandfather was this >>130682227 simple concept to understand.

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viKANGZ

>>130679583

i have a t-rex in my bedroom :)

meet rapekit. shouldn't have let /b/ roll to name him.

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>>130682545

>>130682499
The fact that you posted this unironically makes me lose hope in humanity.

>>130671889
It's amazing how far mammals have come from weasel like animals to the smartest animals on the planet

>>130679583
>HI WERE THE BURGERZ AT?
birds aren't derived from T-Rex you retarded nigger. They have a common ancestor million of years ago. american education is shit tier

>>130674840
Technically it's a sister species we are closely related but nowhere near the same species

>>130681992
You're either a brother in faith or a gypsy, nigger, spic etc.

>>130682350
It's okay, that kind of timescale is hard to comprehend even for white people.

>>130673582
Epic of Gilgamesh described the biblical style flood much earlier than the bible.

>>130682968
would you let a nigger brother in islam marry your daughter?

>>130675748
Source of pic?

Just because western civilization is rooted in Christianity, doesn't mean we need to believe it is true. You know, for a board that hates kikes so much, you guys really love believing in their made up stories. Keep following your desert people myths. This is the same as flat earth threads.

>>130676326
You're talking about science like it's your God. There is no "science," only error-prone, biased human beings following the scientific method. What they discover using the scientific method is in no way whole or complete and is always subject to change. Just because one part of scientific knowledge seems probable and is accepted as true doesn't mean the other parts are as probably true, even if they are accepted.

tl:dr just because one part of physics is accepted as true does not mean all other scientific knowledge follows

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>>130671889
Here's a chart of how different kinds of animals evolved and what order they evolved in

>>130673937
THE BIBLE BRO

>>130682545
>>130682584
Aww he looks cute yet fierce. Watch out, he might go on a t-rex style killing spree it's in his genes

>>130674399
>universality of flood myth discredits idea that flood was real
Are you fucking retarded?

>everyone who remains alive was on the boat
>all of subsequent humanity descends from people on boat
>all humanity knows about the flood because their ancestors survived

What dont you understand?

>>130683705
If there was a God then can we really trust people who wrote the bible

>>130683390
I don't worship it. i don't think it is frozen in one shape, or that it is eternally true - although i think it very unlikely that some bits are false... gravity is a constant - not well explained, but unlikely to be discovered to be non existent. similarly, the basic laws of chemistry are pretty well set - the day that Gold becomes highly reactive or Flourine is inert, then i'll have a real meltdown. So much of science is very well confirmed to the point where it would be churlish to say we don't know that it is right. given that, to reject evolution would require you coming up with some means of seperating it from basic chemistry or physics - some way to show that it does not obey those laws, and that somehow biology is not subject to them.

you can't.

evolution is part and parcel with all basic science - to deny it you must deny gravity and electricity adn magnetism and chemical bonding and all of biology and all of medicine.

I don't worship this, I just know it works, and is true.

>>130683705
I asked for evidence.

>>130682968
Ahmed, try converting me to Islam, or at least theism, and answer me this question:

If there was a grand designer, why do niggers exist? Couldn't God have just skipped on Africa?

>>130673937
Cap stones of Egypt bring lifting and gone, erosion on the sphinx and the hard sediment layers indicative of wash. ((Atlantis)) aka just some beach city that got hit with a tsunami.

Why do you think ((they)) don't want us looking at the bottom of the ocean.
Remember kids, only scary fish.

>>130683265
>nigger
>brother in islam
Learn to fuckng read, Ceaucescu.

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>>130684040
Are you? The various flood myths from across the world are very, very different from one another, and occurred at very different times. If the biblical flood were real, we wouldn't see such wild variations and time frames of the flood. We would at least see some cohesion, right?

Here's a good list of flood stories from around the world.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

>All of subsequent humanity descends from the people on boat
So what you're saying is... we're all the inbred bastards of 8 people from 6,000 years ago? And so is every animal?

>What don't you understand
How anyone can take this story seriously. There are so many issues and flaws with the flood myth that any rational human being ought to look at it and go "hmm, seems like bullshit"

>>130684896
are you denying that there are nigger muslims?

>>130671889
>Reminder that there are people that believe this
It isn't an issue of 'belief', it's a cold hard fact, whatever woowoo you choose to believe, it will remain a fact, reality trumps fairy tales 100% of the time.

>>130674883
Incest generations is a pyramid. If you fuck enough and happen to get enough not retard kids, you incest will stop being incest.
Different speciation will occur as well, or put retardedly, races.

>>130678356
Underrated

>>130671889
It wouldn't be a surprise that brits evolved from rats

>>130684871
at what elevation above sea level?

you are really trying hard and failing here.

You know that the Egyptian monuments are older than the creation according to Usher.

>>130679494
>Educate yourself
Whenever someone says this it's a sure way to tell they are pulling shit out of their ass. Coincidentally it's usually SJWs who do this.

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>>130679613
Did you have trouble reading my post? Not a biblefag, the biblical account is a story. All I mentioned was that cataclysmic flooding has happened before and may give insight into how stories like Noah and others came about in the first place. There's no need to throw out the idea of large-scale flooding (especially glacial-melt) just because some fags think the world is 5000 years old.

>>130678477
Oh, nevermind I guess. You're stuck in "make fun of christfag" mode. Give the Randal Carlson episode of Rogan's podcast a chance, you're writing off evidence you haven't even heard because you associate it with biblefags.

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>>130686761
I'd really like to see you stop being so proudly anti-religion long enough to see geologic evidence of major events having occurred within the time that humans have been building cities.

Yes, the bible is a bunch of bronze age stories and the earth isn't 5000 years old, we all get it, it's a revelation to nobody,you can stop now.

>>130672252
I didn't come from an ape! I came from some dirt fucking his own rib!

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>tfw there's really interesting shit here to talk about but everyone wants to shitfling dead beliefs all day instead

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>>130679613
>You need some way of explaining this - and you don't have one
Have you checked, or are you just assuming?
Bumping because if we can get away from religion for a second there's actual evidence of something extraordinary having occurred, no divine intervention or supernatural explanations required.

>>130686761
Wait a minute here, you're not even addressing anything he said, and seem to be having a completely different conversation entirely.
Are you a bot?