Marriage today

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how could you not want to put a ring on THIS?

>>130624235
Degeneracy, I'm getting married in 2 weeks - mid 20's

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Of course! Stupid male whitey is to blame for every ill ever.

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>>130624312
Need to put some bleach on that cesspit

Because marriage is too much of a legal liability.

There's too much to lose and so little to gain for a man in marriage.

And women in the modern world have made it clear, "I need no man", "marriage is oppressive", "I want sexual freedom", "I'm a hoe, but no slut shamming" etc etc.

So please fuck off and hoe in the nearby club; I'll pick you up for a night

>>130625086
Based poo

But what about future birth rates?

Its because men like you dont know how to treat a real woman, not some whore from a bar you met after a few shots of jack m8

>>130624235
because ppl older than millenials r alive.

millenials are in our thirties. the average life span for a human preindustrial revolution was about 40. old world sucked.

>>130624235
F E M I N I S M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBsEF7Qx09o

>>130625380
lol shutup you Fedora fag.

I dated a Christian Eastern Euro girl from a tiny village for 7 years. Took her V-card, we shared everything together. Treated her like a fucking princess. American university was enough for her to go fuck old dudes in Benzo's for purses and skyline bars.

The modern world comes with alot of good, and a shit load of bad.

Let's count the white knights and women who say "the women dindu anything, jerkoff, we need more anti male anti marriage laws and it'll still be fine."

"Men should just man up and marry a woman"
(even though she says it's oppressive, then we can all blame the man of being oppressive lol)

>>130625649
How did American university ruin her?

>>130625649
>Eastern European
Pffffffffft why tf would you date a slav ? They're all golddiggers who speak gibberish and reek of vinegar

Both parties are to blame. Men have become complete pussy whipped cuckolds; beta cucks who make decent money get effortlessly manipulated by gold-digging whores, and dumb chads think marrying a cuntish slut is a great idea "cuz she got huge tits brah." Honestly, I actually have little sympathy for most men. Come on, lets get real here. Sure, a lot of women are vapid cunts, and abuse the broken court system established by society, but society is built by men, so who is to blame? Jews? Sure, but its more complicated than that, and you cant just shove off the blame of yourself and your countrymen.At some point you have to accept responsibility. But men are the ones who tolerate and enable their behavior.

If you are a true attractive upper echelon alpha male, you have your choice of cream of the crop women. if you are at the bottom of the mate chain, and you actually can get a woman who will shag up with you, she WILL leave if she sees opportunity with a better partner. This is the name of the game, this is how it works. If you are an average, aka a 5/10, you are in rough territory, and its probably safe to say the men on here are even lower than that. the average man, the average normie, is a 5/10. Now in today's society, women have even greater control of their mate selection because of social media, technology etc. So, as a man, its even more important for you to climb the mate scale. It sucks, but that's the downside of our relatively upside society.

So TL:DR become a rich, fit, attractive confident intelligent chad that is desirable and better than other men. And if you actually achieve this, [you almost certainly wont, since it requires effort and hard-work, the bane of the average 4channer] make sure you pick a nice young meek woman, not some used up cunt the same age as you

>>130626812
>nice young meek woman
Yeah, real manly. Take advantage of someone way younger. I bet that makes you feel like a big strong man, huh leaf?

>>130626812
Amen

>>130625339
1. put a baby in her out of wedlock
2. before or after getting married through a church, not the state

>>130624235

no money. I'm 29 and jobless. Never had a good job. Always looking for work. College educated. A FUCKING WHITE MALE.

I come from a poor family though. Not much economic mobility that I can see anymore.

>>130624312
I feel sick.

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>>130624312

>>130627149

And pay child support if we follow your (1) - 100% will happen

Pay child support and alimony if we follow your (2) - 70% will happen

Thanks for your advise

>>130624235

Women want to wait until 29 to get married.

Men don't want to marry a wrinkly, used up old 25 year old.

Solution: Prostitutes for men. Cat collections for women. Everyone is happy, except for women over 25.

>>130627149
Church marriage and state marriage are not separated in the US dude. If you marry through a church you're under the same laws as if you married through the state.

My friends were a married couple with 4 kids who recently went through a divorce and him being slapped with a restraining order, who now live in two separate states.

Marriage is great when it works, which is also declining.

>>130625896
>Goes to Uni with me
>Wants to make more friends
>Hangs out with faggot liberal types
>Starts acting like them
>Becomes whore
Pretty simple dude. The American university system is designed to fuck up peoples core principles and beliefs.

>>130627689
Yikes, I hope it isn't the same here. I had planned on just doing the church side if I find my unicorn, and nopeing out of the government one.

>>130627188

That sucks. But at least you have your white privilege.

>>130624235

People simply can't afford it. Can't afford the nice fancy wedding the woman wants. Can't afford the big house for the kids. Can't afford the kids at all. Can't afford for just the man to work while the woman stays at home. Can't afford the alimony and child support if it's divorce time. So it's more cost effective for the woman to be a single mother on welfare and the man to do a runner thanks to the wonder's of socialism.

>>130627804
women don't have core values
if you don't believe that you're worse than any leftist

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>>130625006
Holy shit watching that stack of paper makes me realized we have transcended in to meme world, trump is a cartoon of a human being yet this is his world.

Praise Kek

P.D. op is a fag

Have you taken the Red Pill yet, OP ?

>>130630273
There is no red pill. The red pill is that men are now man childen unfit for marriage

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>>130624312
>how could you not want to put a ring on THIS?

What a wonderful sight! me wants to get in and explore!

>>130626812
>become rich, fit, attractive confident intelligent chad

You do fucking realize that it's an oxymoron, right? Like a smart nigger or an honest jew.

>Leaf poster
>Tries to babble something intelligent

Fucking kys. After genociding all the jews, we need to genocide all the leaf posters... and then the niggers. In this order.

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>Want to create gender equality
>Put all male privileges on trial and start a decade-long systemic effort remove them wherever possible (patriarchal households, expectation of sexual appeasement, etc.)
>All social & legal expectations regarding men remains the same or increases (provider's burdens, alimony, etc.)
>Privileges of women are unaddressed and retained in literally all areas (judicial preference towards females, "can't hit a girl," etc.)
>New privileges granted to females to allegedly level the playing field (total authority over redefined sexual boundaries, affirmative action, etc.)
>All expectations women were once held to are rebranded as inherently oppressive, completely scrapped, and their destruction celebrated (traditional beauty, homemaking skills, etc.)
>Create society-wide minefield in which men have half as much to gain as they used to and literally everything to lose, while women are given lifelong body armor and coddled into believing they are entitled to having and eating every cake life has to offer
>Use the male's natural desire to bear the burden and rough it out against him, emasculating anyone who questions a system that both constantly assumes and combats his privilege
>Allow these two "equal" sexes to mingle in a world where socialization is at all all-time low, pornography is free, and a crippled housing economy actively discourages starting a family
Clearly the marriage rate is declining because of all the coddled, immature men who aren't ready to provide for a real woman.

feminism. without it every woman would become loyal to the first man that treated her well.

>>130634497
10/10 post. Good shit anon