How to debate a Jew?

>>130594487
Sounds like you need to figure out what you think race and marriage are. If you're going to be something as stupid as a white nationalist learn to defend your arguments.

>>130594487
Become the jew

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>>130594940
I can't. I'm a goyim for life.

>>130594816
hey christfag, what do you define marriage as?

What would you say to this guy about marriage?

>>130594487
Learn from Poles, anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI5DD9RNMXc

>>130595134
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage

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>>130595226
forgot pic

>>130595040
just formulate your points into bullshit rhetorical questions like they did

>>130594487
he also claimed that Europe is Jewish land

>>130595134
I don't have to define shit, I'm not the one losing arguments to Jews because I didn't come prepared.

>>130595226
why no subtitles?

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>>130595040
>defining yourself with the words of the jew

For one, don't call yourself goyim. The jew may call you that but don't use their words, don't play their game. Now that we have that covered. You should do your research and be able to define those terms. Just be careful and don't let him just keep asking questions till you reach exhaustion. Its a dirty technique

>>130595524
well what if a Jew did confront you anon?

>>130594487
sounds like you should just stick the hugbox which is /pol/ and leave real life for the adults

You don't debate Jews, they can't be debated, they use the most disgusting forms of argument.
Why are you even talking to kikes? You can't give kikes the same playing level as you.

>>130595707
this kike in particular was my pre-natsoc (((friend))).

Read this for more http://www.press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/S/bo13107549.html

It explains the evolution of modern Jew rhetoric and their invasion of academia. You must not engage them when they start to reduce arguments into, "The word arbitrary is arbitrary!" This is critical theory.

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>>130595530
?

Step 1 is realizing objectivity is necessary for civilization

Step 2 is realizing objectivity isn't provable

Step 3 is realizing you need to assert objectivity into abstract concepts by the degree of their functionality

Everything else flows from there

>>130595655
I'd state my world view and my philosophy, but as a Christian Libertarian I'm actually ready for questions like what is race and what is marriage.

>>130596097
weird, I didn't get those. Maybe I didn't watch it far enough yet.

"of course a liberal jew isn't going to understand race and marriage so why would you think your opinion on these things matter?"

>>130596200
well help a fellow christian out then.

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>>130595313
It is too late. Whether you like it or not, we are living in a borderline communist country and you can fucking feel it everywhere.

> b-but muh gommies support eguality and gibmegrants

World does not end on those issues.

>>130595879
As the anon quoted told you, do not debate them and simply call them out as a Jew.

>opponent asks you to define your terms
>you cant
>you lose the debate

He made you look like a complete idiot because you are one

>>130595412
Yeah he totally said that. Just another larp thread

Is your name Haman?
>I am so stupid and so racist, just like you guys
>Jews are so smart for real man

>>130596625
kek. no he actually said that. idk where he got that idea from, maybe he was trying to ridicule the idea of "a people's land"

>>130595655
Ask him if he thinks crypto is a bubble or not

The Jews aren't the Game, the Game is the game. You're zoomed in too tight

There is a joke in Russian
> Are you a Jew?
> Why are you asking?
The punchline is that the Jews like replying with questions. That can be countered by pointing it out.

>>130594487
just flip it back on him and when he tries to answer like a retard or doesn't and says no you, you then say well what does it mean to be religious then? what is a christian, what is a jew?

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>>130596256
Kk bb I got you. Here's a 3 step plan for dealing with Jews in a Christian way.

>1st Treat them like anyone else

You're supposed to love your neighbor and love your

>2nd Quit worrying about what they're up to.

If it's theft murder or enslavement report it to the authorities otherwise you have better things to do.

>3rd Live your life in pursuit of Christ

Study the bible, go to church, start a family, the basic growing up life stuff. Jesus said "How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?"


That's the Christian answer, I'm sure some Socialists and ethno nationalists will call me some names for it, but seriously do that and you'll have a better life, I guarantee it.

>>130596200
Nah, I think you're just a pompous idiot. OP is a fag too.

>>130597272
and love your enemy*

>>130594487
If someone is debating Krav Maga style (relentless attack on any perceived weakness) you need to adopt the same style. Or knock them out with one blow, punch-out artist style (metaphorically). Either way it will be a pointless argument.

>>130597285
LOL, and what are you? Some kind of Cuck who want's the bigger stronger Muslim and Mexican men to take care of your wife on cold nights?

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>>130597272
>>130597394

Maybe the time for arguments has stopped, and we should just shut up about it, and win by making white children and making ourselves better physically and mentally rather than play with the kikes in their own game?

>>130594487
>what is race"
Phenotype; a biological reality, not a social construct.

>what is marriage
Some Jew bullshit created to enslave men. At times a necessary evil for the procreation of our race.

>>130594816
Shut the fuck up, Sholo.

Sounds like you didn't know what you're talking about honestly. Doesn't matter if you're right or wrong when you can't articulate yourself. Don't blame the other guy, work on you.

>>130597608
*Shlomo

Fucking keyboards designed by Japs.

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>>130597552
or to put otherwise (pic related)

>>130594487
Why do so many of you faggots just say nigger and Jew and read Hitler's diary instead of actually researching every topic you form an opinion on deeply.
It's not like you will change your opinions much, the science and history support us.
Marriage is a Christian institution which was appropriated and degraded by the government.
Race is a term for groups of individuals with closely matched genetics, it's a general term but not negligible either. A race can split into two, or merge into one, though generally the merger causes many beneficial recessive or epistatic genes to be lost.

>>130597672
maybe I don't, so I'm looking to learn.

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>>130594487
>jew answers a question with a question

dont waste your time

>>130597552
Basically, why waste time with people not worth your time when you could be the best you can be for the sake of your own children.

>>130594487
>How to debate a Jew?
Well, I hate to break it to you, but not like you normally do.
Not sure how many of you faggots do this, but whether you're playing a game online, buying shit at the store or talking about vegetables there is a fucking annoying pattern of memes fanaticism and disinfo.
Anyone you everwant to debate just DON'T fucking use infographs from /pol/. Don't use arguments worded for /pol/ and for fuck's sake don't go full "the niggers and the Jews111!!" throwing an angry autistic rant.

It's cringeworthy. Try to at least fucking use /pol/ arguments but with info you've researched yourself outside of this website. I'm not saying /pol/ is wrong, but that shit just isn't right.

>>130597791
Lazy ass fucks need to study harder, more time researching history, and medical research journals, and less time jerking off on YouTube to Lauren Southern

>>130597906
I seen a buzzfeed article where a guy was getting uppity over a gay pride related issue, and he fully derailed in white genocide and tried using green text. I almost commented on his original comment, saw how quickly he jumped into white genocide when confronted, and saw the green text and noped out of that shit

>>130597674
Lol, why is a white supremacist using a Japanese keyboard? and, outside of a driver glitch or spell check(which has nothing to do with a keyboard) I thing you just have bad typing skills, don't worry though I'm dyslexic as well

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>>130594487
Just define your terms pre debate, you should always know in your mind what you think the things you support are, but if you need to just stop the conversation to agree on a definition once a concept is brought up. Either one of these will prevent most jewry. Btw: Scientifically race is a collection of certain genetic traits that are similar throughout a certain population (bone size, facial structure, testosterone levels, intellectual capability) that are distinct in a certain population. Marriage is traditionally a legal union between a man and a woman designed to encourage monogamy and fertility.

pic sorta related, another common Jewish tactic to watch out for

>>130597824
Don't memorize and regurgitate pol taking points, that will just leave you high and dry when the conversation leaves a prepared topic. Also, being an opinion regurgitator is brain dead.

Develop critical thinking skills. This isn't something you can really be told how to do in one thread. Read lots of news from left and right biases, believe none of it. Listen to as many conflicting opinions as you can, don't copy any, crop together the bits you agree with. Yes, even leftist stuff, you need a broad store of perspectives. Its much much easier to argue for something you decided yourself.

>>130598417
I proposed a somewhat more narrow definition of race, that is haplogroups. He said "well, if we go far enough into DNA then we are all the same"

>>130594487
if you really want to learn how to defeat a Jew in debate, start with Christians. if you can de-convert a hardened believer using logical arguments, you're well on your way to defeating the kike.

>>130598573
Yeah he's just being a retard. No one agrees with that premise. That's like saying all computer programs do the same thing cause it's all 1s and 0s

>>130595651
The problem isn't him not being able to define marriage. It's him taking the question seriously. Asking people to define extremely basic shit on the spot is an old as fuck trick. He should've just brushed it off, giving his sympathies for growing up in a broken home or telling him to read up before he tries to discuss things.

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>>130598598
>>>130598598
Yes goy, don't debate the Jew, debate the Christian, turn him into a nihilistic atheist, that will definitely be a better use of your time, forget about little ol' me

>>130594487
>What is marriage
It is a 3 way contract, where as a relationship is a two way contract. By bringing in society and religious institutions in validating the bond, it strengthens it with much more permanence than a contract just between two individuals
>what is race
Don't be a dumbass racist. There's no real valid justification for racism. Only valid criticism is that multi-culturalism does not work, and that studies have shown that diverse communities have weaker bonds and less trust and interaction with their neighbors. Focus on the fact that "humans are flawed, and have a natural distrust for those that look and speak different than themselves". Ask if they've ever been to a vastly different country than themselves, and if they felt more comfortable asking locals or other Westerners for help. If they tell you the former, they are lying and call them out for it.

>>130594487
lol this is the most elementary philosophy-major trick in existence: pose questions with subjective abstract answers, then pick at every tiny aspect of whatever the other person says.

>but you can't prove that's what race is
>but marriage is an inherently oppressive institution, like you literally can't disagree with that
>hahaha like literally, you literally cannot separate whiteness from hierarchies of oppression. Like you literally cannot do it.

>>130594487
You lost because your ideas are flawed. He didn't make you look like an idiot, you already are an idiot. Lel

>>130594487
>he doesn't know what race and marriage are
Give him the dictionary definition, it's not even hard.
Debating Jews is easy since you can always expose him for using Jewish tactics. The trick is you don't call them Jewish tactics.

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>>130598573
You genuinely can not argue with somebody like that in a traditional fashion. I assumed you weren't too intelligent before but that type of kike shit gets anybody off guard. In the future respond with an even greater absurdity to demonstrate the useless and nit-picking nature of his argument. Make it follow the same logic as his comment so as to make the only logical responses rejecting his previous remark or agreeing with yours: example- "if we go far enough into DNA then we are almost the same as chimpanzees"

>>130594487
you tell him to stick to the topic, you dont let him derail you with irrelevant questions even a firstgrader could answer. and if he asks more irrelevant questions you ask him what is metzitzah bpeh´?

>>130597859
> questions your ideas
> instead of proving your ideas are actually valid you just give up
> you still want respect as a thinker
Lol. Get a trade, give up, you're not capable of anything intellectual.

>>130595313
>some students called it ridiculous
Yes, (((some students))).

>>130599465
How to make yourself look stupid:
> if we go far enough into DNA then we are almost the same as chimpanzees
hahahahhahaha

>>130599465
ironically he will actually accept that.

>>130599669
That's the point my dude

Hahaha, some Jew came into a party I was at in high school and I started playing the Nazi anthem - the kid literally had an autistic tantrum yelling "SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!" I never laughed so hard in my life.

>>130599937
autistic and i bet your friend group is like 3-4 "edgy" kids

>>130597552
Yea, definitely time to better yourself mentally. If you'd done this in the first place, you wouldn't be a neonazi.

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>>130599937
kek

>>130600017
> i'm not a neo-nazi degenerate

>>130600016
Nah, the 3-4 kids swinging the school their weed and LSD.

You're just butt hurt you didn't have friends.

>>130594487
It isn't called "race" anymore its called "macro haplotype." Heh. Tell him that.

>>130600104
Sure. Whatever you think m8.
> dumb as fuck
> can't argue points
> nazi flag
> thinks in terms of 'the jews'
> not a neonazi
One of those is not like the others

>>130600127
fucking moron i had 3-4 edgy friends, get with the program. they may have been faggots but at least they were drug dealers

>>130600016
still better friends than tyrone and the cripps

>>130599937
You're on the autism spectrum for sure.
> three boys sitting around a computer watching porn and drinking dads beers
> tells everyone it was a 'party'

>>130600313
Sorry anon, I didn't understand you. But yeah, I got you. They weren't brilliant, but good enough to be discrete, plus I redpilled them.

>>130600402
I didn't know my dad. Say that to me IRL not on the internet, faggot.

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>>130599505
WRONG

>>130600313
atleast in russia they look down upon the dealers. they keep scoring the target nowadays.

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>>130594487

>>130596619 is actually right, but you should have honestly been able to answer the question of "What is Race?" It is the scientifically proven classification of Humans into common groups based upon blood (genetics) and culture (ancestry, societal similarities), manifesting itself in the various unique physical and mental properties of these "groups", or races. As for marriage, I shouldn't need to explain it to you. Learn from this experience, and be prepared for next time; but that does not mean you give them the opportunity for a 'next time'.

>>130594487
Don't answer their questions, always answer a Jew's question with another question.

By making you feel like you're beholden to explain and answer his queries you lost the upper hand and started working for him.

>>130599017
marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman

it's that easy

>>130601111
You guys might as well admit that the Jews are so clever that they're the master race then.

>>130601398
implying a jew knows what's sacred

>>130597552
Excellent advice, but even this is not far enough. The time will come when we need to take the fight to them.

>>130601481
Why will that time come?

>>130601398
Now you're locked into a 15 minutes off-topic debate with a jew having no sense of sanctity asking about the nature of that and accusing you of being homophobic or some other stupid shit.

Either shame someone for using dishonest rhetorical tricks, there's a small chance it may make them quit, or just don't talk to them. You'll never get anywhere discussing things with a person(jew) who doesn't want to get anywhere.

>>130599099
care to a demonstration? you are a believer, yes?

>>130597906
I've never seen more smart people in one place than this board. Nice memes tho

>>130600017
lol fuck off you shitposting cunt

Left-right politics are often represented as leftists being "progressives", that is, seeking to change the status quo, and conservatives seek to preserve it, hence the names. In fact it's just the opposite. Leftism is carefully designed psychological manipulation designed almost entirely around the thoughts and behaviors of white men, who are the only ones mentally and physically strong enough to overthrow (((them))). Hence the emphasis on turning everyone into a good goy that loves multiculturalism.

>>130601448
Notice how the Jews are not the ones collaborating to overcome their challenges in a constructive and mutually beneficial manner. The only time you will find Jews collaborating is when they are trying to further their own interests at someone else's expense. That is the foremost reason why they are not the Master Race.

>>130599505
>proving your ideas are actually valid
They will never give you that luxury, such debates are pointless.

Just laugh off their arguments and respond with questions, throw everything back in their face, and claim victory. Doesn't matter if you even think you won, by claiming victory you are just getting ahead of the game because that's what (((they))) do.

It's easy to play rhetorical games, you don't even need to know anything about a subject to (((debate))) it, just use the standard tricks.

>>130601668
>locked into a debate
Why? Claiming victory is the key, it will piss them off and make them lose their cool.

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>>130595040
Marry their women and brainwash your hybrid offspring to take them down! The Jewness is passed through the mother! This is our only hope at survival you have no idea how bad it really is!!!!

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With irl shitposting propaganda

>>130601448
would you wanna be a jew today?

>>130601757
So altruistic behavior is a trait of the master race?

>>130595707
And worst, once you win. The Jew acts like it never happened.

>>130602010
A non-Jewish man on my street did this, his wife wouldn't let the children celebrate any Christian holidays, and constantly poisoned her daughters against the poor guy. He eventually died during an argument with his daughter of a heart attack.

He used to come to our house for Christmas because they wouldn't let him do it at home. It was a tragedy all around but a good life lesson for the entire neighborhood.

>>130602039
Why do you even need to ask?

>>130601111
Fucking checked. Lol

>>130602000
That's a sound way of dealing with it. Still, he needs to do away with his expectations of a fruitful discussion when the jew throws down the pilpul.

>>130602039
IS it?

>>130602357
Right, this is really the core of the issue.

I believe OP could fruitfully use his friend to learn how to (((argue))) though. If these past few years have taught us anything it's that (((they))) have no immunity against their own tricks and techniques. This is why fake news bothers them so much.

>>130602334
I ask because altruism is demonstrably a teachable trait so if your argument is they can't be the master race because they're not altruistic, without any other context it would imply that one could learn their way into the master race, which is contradictory to the very nature of genetics

>>130602023
That's from today's paper by the way. If anyone's curious.
http://www.fremantleherald.com/ARCHIVES/F17617
>>130602357
>>130602334
>>130602280

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8BLfefGtg

>>130602653
> learn how to (((argue)))
I hadn't thought it through that far. You're right.

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>>130594487
OP, after reading all your posts I have to say

You sound like a dimwitted fucking idiot.
Get your shit together.
>marriage
>race
If you are having trouble with these then you aren't well versed in it and are going to have a hard time to articulate. If you cant convey your message then how are we supposed to take it?
Basically lurk more and you'll find the answers. Eventually you'll be well rounded in all areas of both those subjects and you become iron clad.

Also dont be fat and be Nat Soc.
Be fit
Smart as you can (which isnt much in your case)
Get a career
Make white babies (assuming you're not a Shitskin)

All the other stuff like winning arguments against kikes will come in time
>inb4 typos
Shitposting on toilet

>>130601736
I'm Pagan, but atheism is for faggots and communists

>>130594487
Debate needs rules and structure. Don't even bother having a debate without these things, because you will end up being run up against the rocks like you were.
Make sure you aren't in the position where you're the only one putting forth an argument, leaving your opponent in the easy position of being able to sit back and poke holes in what you're saying. In a proper debate, both sides must present arguments. Where you have made a good point, don't let them tiptoe around it. Make sure to confront the other person when they fail to acknowledge and refute on of your points.

If you're going to have a debate without rules, you may as well just beat the shit out of the other guy. It's more satisfying and more productive.

>>130594487
> mfw I can't figure out if this is a troll thread or is OP is mentally retarded

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>debate
Next time just call him a fag and/or punch him in the face.

>>130599255
>there is no real valid justification for racism

Define "racism" I hear people use it from everything to acknowledging there are differences between races to not liking globalism

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>>130597791
>>130594487
I'm sure if they read more than what they support they can find answers. These cunts are almost as bad as the liberals. You have to expose yourself in all sides order for you to be able to defeat that side. "Know your enemy." I find the best way to fight a fag is to know how the fag thinks, you walk into an argument with one then, of course, you are going to lose, you have no idea what you are going up against.
Marriage:
A religious/holy bond between a man and woman. It is, there is no other way around it. Marriage is a religious tradition.
Race:
A set of specific genetics shared between peoples. Race does exist, use dog breeds and how you can show the physical and genetical differences between breeds. Then, without being a supremacist, bring up physical and genetical differences between human races. Also, as a Nazi, you are not a cultural/racial supremacist. You are a culture/racial preservationist. If you don't agree with that then you need to A. Research more about Nazism B. Rethink your ideological beliefs.

-- I can't believe you lost to a kike in an argument.

>>130594487
Get smarter. Try studying some philosophy. Logic, philosophy, and command of the relevant data will help you argue better.

>>130602736
Demonstrably? Then demonstrate an example of an Orthodox Jew being altruistic, whilst not contradicting the Torah.

Traits of the Master Race CAN be adopted, that is the entire point of civilisation! But no other race in the world is such a perfect example of all these traits, and it IS the Master Race that furthers and continues the evolution of these traits (of which civilisation has been developed as a mechanism to do so). There are always exceptions, but all they ever do is prove the rule.

>>130594487
Study the sticky to learn how to argue why is this a thread?

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>>130603391
This, philosophy is your friend.

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>>130595040
(You)

>>130603468
Ok so first I need to know,
>Do you believe in free will?
second
>What do you think genetics are?
If these behavioral traits are part of race and they can be learned then the race you begin as is more or less irrelevant because your current race is a product of your successes and failures in life.

>>130594487
>confronting the enemy at their motherbase
iam proud of you anon

>>130594487
The beginnings of an education are the definition of terms. The left and kikes know this so they fiddle with the meanings of words all the time. Go read and set up precise criteria for the terms you use and refuse any relative interpretation. You should not be on the back foot like that with a kike - that just shows that you have a hell of a lot to learn. Get out there and argue more but treat it like a martial art - when you loose go through your mind how you lost and then how to not loose the next time.

Also read more books and if you don't train in a combat you are a fat burger cuck faggot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7qV3ScqB_Q

>>130594487
>what is race
>what is marriage

Just call it out for what it is, a redirect so he can escape giving a valid argument back. Don't get drawn into tangents, tell him to either respond to the question at hand otherwise anything else is a concession to the point you've made.

Then he'll either ask for clarification so he can pick a part your point of view (still avoiding the argument proposed, in which case you better have your numbers and sources ready... DON'T GET DRAWN INTO TANGENTS) or adhom his way out, at which point you point out to him he dosen't even understand the universal ideas of race in marriage so how could he possibly have any idea about ________.

>>130603908
First (((you))) answer my questions, then I will answer yours.

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>>130594487
>>EVERYONE
Sorry guys, the future is gonna be Social (ist) Jewstice For All.
Everyone has been screaming for it, and by God, they are gonna get it
I wanna thank BLM, and the Natsoc useful idiots most of all...this never would have been possible without you.
Thanks for actually seeming to believe that making rich whites/blacks take care of their inferior subordinates, will somehow help society.
I dunno how you guys did it, but Kudos.
Soon, they will all be forced to respect our Authoritah!!

Greetings from the future, fellow Democrats!!
We're keeping the dream alive.
We're creating human/pig hybrids...even AJ knows this now.
We do this for the pigman!!
https://youtu.be/-X0Hcnuro-Q

>>130603391
This and also learn that arguing isn't about winning the opposition, it's about seeking truth through debate and logic.

>>130604179
>race in marriage
race and marraige*

>>130594487
Voting Dem is the FINAL, TRUE, red pill.
You can't argue with effectiveness. Progressive gun control, has done more to destroy black communities, than CRACK!!
We've got George "The Golden Gasser" Soros himself, funding BLM while blacks kill each other, and Hamas to kill Israelis...you guys better get in on this shit. Everyone knows we're the REAL racists and Nazis.
Don't forget to vote Democrat brothers.... SOCIALISM FOREVER!! There are something like 20 Haitian families, homeless, just so I can drive German Engineering. Get in on this shit...we pretend to be on their side....AND THEY BELIEVE IT!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
BEST LARP EVER!!!

We even have a petition to put drive-thru abortion clinics on every corner in the Ghetto, right next to the liquor stores and crack houses; we already make deliveries there...several birds, one stone...

>>130602653
>>130602910

god damn snowniggers are so fucking slow. Förbannade träskalle!

it took you this long to figure out?

>>130604444

you have to start building your arguments around isreal.
Isreal has a wall, isreal doesnt take refugees ect.
Otherwise they defend isreal and prove your point or they agree with you, and in that aspect you have truly won.

>>130594487
>my opinion isn't real I just want to fit in

Now if I was in the situation race is the ethnic group your roots can be traced back to but never bring up race and if they do its only to bait you so they can yell racist.

Marriage is a religious institution where according to the laws of your religion you agree to spend the rest of your life with a person

>>130604521
Feel the Bern, fellow socialist!!

>>130599937
Laughter is the best medicine. Keep the edge alive.

>>130604248
truth and logic only attracts the smart, you need to at some point reach for the masses. do you think coalburner feminists are interested in truth and logic?

>>130604211
So you asked me 2 questions, first why I need to ask which I answered, and Second to provide an example of a Jew being altruistic. The Second question was irrelevant and not something I even care to try. I simply questioned whether or not a person not specifically a Jew could learn their way into the master race. I don't care about Jews they don't do anything to me and I am not one of them I'm of German/Spanish decent. So tell you what I'll assume you're correct and a Jew is incapable of being altruistic without contradicting the Torah. So then you've acknowledge My first question about learning to be the master race now answer my other questions.

>>130601111
wow didn't notice digits first time.

>>130604933
Are you voting for the Party, brother?
We're sacrificing niglet babies to Moloch...ow the fuck can you say no to that?
>>130604847
Who gets to decide what the edge is?

>>130603029
> be me
> grew up in a decent family
> did math all my life
> dad's basically a nihilist so discouraged my political activity
> goes to college
> still does math
> somehow converts to natsoc
> meets a lot of Jews in math
> /thread

yes i'm trying to be smart in this area of human knowledge

also
> aren't marriage and race concepts so basic that they do not warrant explaining? It's like me explaining what it means to see to another seeing person. It's so basic it doesn't need defining.

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>>130605158
Did you say Moloch...

>GET TH HORSES READY, POPE'S CALLING A CRUSADE

Time for Deus Vult

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>>130605447
Isaiah 8:9-16

"Be broken, O peoples, and be shattered; And give ear, all remote places of the earth. Gird yourselves, yet be shattered; Gird yourselves, yet be shattered. "Devise a plan, but it will be thwarted; State a proposal, but it will not stand, For God is with us." For thus the LORD spoke to me with mighty power and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
"You are not to say, 'It is a conspiracy!' In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it. "It is the LORD of hosts whom you should regard as holy. And He shall be your fear, And He shall be your dread. "Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem. "Many will stumble over them, Then they will fall and be broken; They will even be snared and caught." Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.--GOD

Luke 10:19
"Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you."-Jesus Christ.
Exodus 15:3
"The LORD is a warrior; The LORD is His name."
Isaiah 42:13
The LORD will go forth like a warrior, He will arouse His zeal like a man of war He will utter a shout, yes, He will raise a war cry He will prevail against His enemies.
Malachi 4:1

"For behold, the day is coming, burning like a furnace; and all the arrogant and every evildoer will be chaff; and the day that is coming will set them ablaze," says the LORD of hosts, "so that it will leave them neither root nor branch."
Psalm 64:2
Hide me from the secret counsel of evildoers, From the tumult of those who do iniquity.
Luke 22:36
Then said He unto them, "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

>>130605367
>maths
You probably need to broaden your rhetoric. 100% logos doesn't get you far except with very open-minded honest people.

>>130601751
>I've never seen more smart people in one place than this board.
4chan is and has always been digging in shit to find gold nuggets.
There's lots of kids and retards in this bard.

>>130603235
Bumping my own criminally underrated post, this is how you win. With FIRE, PASSION and PHYSICALITY.

>>130605774
probs
I do tend to get confused when someone asks questions that are kinda stupid

>>130605847
It wasn't underrated though, now we just think you're dumb and dishonest.

>>130605933
try getting angry instead, you really should

>>130600016
My friend group was the 3-4 edgy kids and we actually had some pretty fucking good times. This was back in the day when edgyness translated to real life

>>130606177
that would be autistic af

>>130606112
>following the rules
liberal cuck, philosophy and law are just inventions by the weak and ugly majority to subjugate the strong and beautiful minority.

>>130606230
times change, autism will be masterrace, its already happening

>>130606392
it's certainly happening for you Swede

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>>130594487

Pic will explain everything.

kek has indeed blessed these peaceful meme farmers with great magic.
This board pleases kek.
This is good.

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>>130606255
You can't cuck me if I don't have a wife

>>130606255
Philosophy and law were invented by the few strong, smart, beautiful minority to control and lead the weak majority, obviously this creates a chance for the majority to be easily mislead as well since they're not as smart or determined as the minority i previously mentioned.

>>130606466
neetbux and hot women, can't complain!

>>130604929
You do not care to try, because it is near impossible to find even a single example which does not obscure the full story. As for believing in free will, it is my belief that while we possess free will, we all have a higher destiny that we should work towards to achieve, as set forth by God. My position is not yet complete on this subject, and I still feel as if I have much to learn.

As for genetics, I accept the common and basic scientific definition; that they are the basis for the inheritance of traits.

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>>130594487
My personal definitions:
Race - A scientific construct defining and classifying the specie breed: it's characteristics (physical, mental), it's deviation from the other specimen in the race, origin and thus acquired physical and mental characteristics. This term is also used to objectify a group of ethnicities affiliated to the race biologically and stereotypically. Now, the Jewish race goes under the classification of White European, with the most deviation from the standard (even more so than the Irish). The Jewish race being the enemy of the other whited is believed to be an issue of pre-Jesus matter when the blacks were in charge. Jews instead of trying to repel the domination, joined them and adopted their culture, which undoubtedly pissed off other white specimen. Brief recap:)
Now the marriage. Marriage is a prehistoric social concept of monogamous division of society associated with economic and social efficiency. This concept has been developing for ages, tricking down to physical and mental attributes having a final say in distribution of chores, cultural artifacts and politics in the prehistoric communities. Today, the gender and marriage concepts are contradicting the concepts of Humanistic era, creating an inequality precedent in the old value systems. The approach by the left to dissolve the binary system leads to chaos and is an unnatural enforcement of revolution. The binary system will always be in place, but it shall continue evolving according to the societal needs and political+economic structures of the society. This is why egalitarianism is so important; it let's system regulate itself, much like in free market. Final verdict: Let the Biology define the nurture concepts and we shall get the change we deserve, not the one we enforce.

>>130594816
It's terrible to want to have a nation of your own goyim, trust me Israel isn't worth fighting for

He saw that you're an idiot, and used your lack of intelligence against you. If you can not articulate a concept in real time, you do not grasp it at all.

There is probably nothing that you will do about that, because the only cure is to stop being mentally lazy.

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>>130594487
>losing arguments to Jews

Don't play the deconstructionist game. Throw it back at him "Do you deconstruct any other race or only white people?"

>>130594487
I don't really touch the marriage subject, but I've BTFO'd some kikes on the race one before.
>what is race
Don't pretend you don't know what race is. You can look at a person and determine whether you believe they're privileged or oppressed. The people you perceive to be privileged are white, the people you believe to be oppressed are nonwhite. You can't simultaneously claim that whites are inherently privileged and racist, then deny that whiteness even exists when it suits you. You only invoke this argument when a white person advocates for their own interests. You've never asked a black person to define blackness or elaborate on what they mean by Black Lives Matter and you're a fucking liar if you tell me otherwise.
I pretty much just copy and paste that when I debate kikes on Facebook and they usually stop responding or delete their comment.

>>130595679
Tripfags lecturing others about anything

>TOP LEL

>>130607257
>you must expect people to use rhetorical tricks and be dishonest
see it's true but it doesn't have to be that way

>>130607280
I bet most Jews could decimate you in any debate. This is true for 99.99% of people who say shit like this.
I am betting the poster IS a Jew, looking for ideas on beating liberal Jews.
Dudes like you are just like the BLM zombies.

>what is marriage?
>what is race?

oy vey the chutzpah of the arrogant jew

what is jew?

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>>130606570
>>130606542
WEAK

GAY

WESTERNIZED

FAGGOT

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>>130607649
Your race is not the only one struggling with generalization, just has more precedent to allow this to happen. But please, don't take people here seriously, we are shitposters and when we say 'Jews' we mean bad ones. Peace

>>130606982
But the method by which you inherit those traits is not behavioral it is biological through generations of gene mixing (not a reference to race mixing). But living for a purpose higher than yourself is a very noble and selfless goal, but it seems that the cause you've committed to is the state, which Jesus showed little interest for. Why not commit that energy to family and worship, these things are much more noble than statecraft.

>>130607224

I never criticized nationalism, and I'm not against putting ones nation before other nations. I'm against socialism and anything else the turns individuals into a collective.

>>EVERYONE
How many of you would say no to having Ben Shapiro, on your team if you were debating Liberals? Tell the truth.
>>130607909
Oh I know...I larp 99% of the time too, sometimes I like a good debate tho...I know this is a bad place for that, but I have fun.

>>130594487
Jews are good debaters; that's why they make good lawyers.

Git gud.

>>130594487
>kike asks what race is
>huh, you stumped me. Guess race isn't real, which means black lives matter, white privilege, and racism are all fraudulent concepts. Thanks for enlightening me!

>>130606230
>LISTEN HERE YOU FUCKING WEASEL KIKE I DONT GIVE A FUCK I WILL FUCKING KILL YOU! IM GONNA PULL OUT A GODDAMN SHOTGUN AND BLOW YOUR FUCKING HEAD OFF!

>>130608293
Shotguns are for degenerates who can't aim.

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>>130597272
You're so fucking stupid. Haha wtf advice is that?

>>130594487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHvfBtwspPM

>>130608517
The kind of advice that allows you to take control of your own destiny. What's wrong with it?

>>130594487
>Can't define what race or marriage are.
He didn't make you look like a complete idiot, you are a complete idiot.
>How do I into the most basic debate.
Start by figuring out the definitions of terms before you actually engage anyone in any kind of debate.

>>130595134
Hey shit-bitch. The big bad nazi doesn't know what race is? If you can't grasp basic things such as race and marriage, do everyone a big favor and keep your mouth shut and sit in the corner -- let the adults do the talking.

Marriage is one of the 7 Catholic sacraments necessary for the salvation of the human race.
Gay "marriage" is not real marriage and never will be.

Race is a biological category and has practical consequences.

>>130608293
jews are literally saying whites should be genocided in open, why not call the bluff? scared of shlomos fist of fury?

>>130594487
I feel your pain brother, this is exactly how a few of my ex's used to communicate. One of them was from a university family, legal professor for a dad.

What you got here is classical use of pseudo intellectual straw man arguments, the whole point of it is to flood your brain.

He's distracting you from your original point and making your brain change processes quickly in a short period of time, which will make you lose your place in the argument.

Now, to defeat this tactic you need to remain 100% calm, and let him finish derailing by giving him time to ask;

>What is race, what is society, what is degeneracy? What IS marriage anon, how can we define these things?

Race is easy, default to Israel definition, the others you should always defer to "science"

Eg; race is something visually obvious, but our Lord and Savior (((science))) is unsure what to make of the visual differences in a quantifiable way. DNA suggests that Lebanese and Israel's are essentially identical. So any military aggression is in fact self immolation.

He's throwing you by making you stop mid point and quantify difficult things in a difficult setting. Keep at it, you'll win eventually.

As a side note, I've found Jews typically start telling long winded and unfunny anecdotes to describe their opinions when they're close to defeat. Watch for this

>>130608293
>YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP!

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>>130594487
What about that super douche Jew, that one who tells everyone there is no such thing as race, but will then give lectures about how Jews are a distinct race? Does Anon know wtf I am on about? He's balding, doesn't look extremely Jewy....these videos, or quoting him would be good place to start.
You have to have a DNA test to move to Israel, or be approved by Rabbis, winning a race debate with a Jew, should be easy as FUCK.
IT is in the Talmud too...them being the only humans, only distinct race/culture.
Those super Jewish supremacists REALLY believe this.
There are youtube videos of them saying, "Oh yeah, when the Messiah comes, all Gentiles will be our slaves."
They try to gussy it up, and make it sound like it will be people WILLINGLY following them, but even regular-ass Judaism...this is what they believe.
The only diff is how benevolent they see themselves as our rulers.
That's the ONLY real diff, in the degree of evil they have planned.

>>130609383
Dud I think this guys is a fucking profit! How did you know so much about this guys situation from such a short post? Is telepathy the true secret power of the master race?

>>130607961
I do not live for the state as it is defined in Marxist thought (Being that the state is a voluntary association of Men who have agreed to a ruling authority, or alternatively that a State be dependent upon certain conditions or ideologies). The State is not an end, but a simple vessel for the Race. The contents of this vessel are not political, or ideological, but they are based upon family and blood. I do not live for the state, but for the culture, tradition and racial elements which fill a true Ethno-State. Christ alone will not save us, but through our own efforts, and through the creation of a State in the truest, racial sense, the salvation of the white race is possible.

>>130594487
Just turn everything around by giving Talmudic definitions. Make him point it out. If he says "what is race?" remind him of the chosen and the goyim. only two races that matter.

>>130595313
why arent more countries doing more to stop them from taking over media like they have in europe and america pushing their diversity agenda because their ancestors were all raped by black men creating the modern race of them?

>>130609596
Patterns everywhere, nothing is original - it's all a rehash of the old using new actors and contexts.

Singularity is the only conclusion after it becomes evident that love is hate, and social justice is actually injustice.

Becoming the jew is the only effective way to defeat the jew.

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>>130594487
>every time he asks a question, chuckle and ask him what it means
>when he insists that he needs his hand held, tell him a collective conception of it and your take on it-this earns you more talking time to win over third party normies

You must be new. This is exceptionally easy to turn around. Every Jew tactic-and I'm not saying this from just personal experience, but like you pointed out it's inherit in their group- has a weakness you can exploit. Most often, their weakness is in giving their opposition bold opportunities. You can only really lose against them if you lose patience.

>>130609690
America has the 14th Amendment, which has been broadly interpreted by the leftist courts to mean "no offensive opinions allowed in legal matters". So the only opinions you have left that reach the masses are the manufactured ones given to them by scheming kikes looking to protect their own asses.

>>130605367
One way to argue about anything is to define things as simple as you can and let the other part dig deeper if he wants to. That will 1 give you time to think and 2 see the intent behind the questions.
Other important aspect is not be afraid to say you don't know something or you don't know enough to debate about it.

>>130609604
You assumed I was trying for a gotchya through Marxism, but the purpose you devote your life seems to be this true ethno-state. It seems that committing yourself to the state once the state becomes what you deem acceptable is living for the state is it not? The state just needs to encompass culture and tradition first. Also I can't help but hear a bit of arrogance (one of humanities greatest flaws) in the way you talk about forming this new state and bringing salvation to the white race.

That is, ask him what he *thinks* it means. If he gives an answer, supplement that answer with a general correct or incorrect. If he refuses to answer, again, that gives you more time to identify various positions that 3rd parties might have and present your own- then you get to explain why yours is right.

>>130594487
Say you identify as a black Chinese lesbian woman and anything he says against you is oppressive. Play him at his own game

>>130603468
wait is altruism against the Torah?

>>130610146
>You assumed I was trying for a gotchya through Marxism
No, I did not. The Marxist definition is the common definition, in that most plebs have been manipulated to see the state as an end (as have you, seemingly). As I said before, the state is simply a vessel for a common race, working towards a great destiny, under God. It is the race that is worth living for, as that is the essential element of a true State.

>>130594487
sound like you need to elaborate what you were arguining about.
you should of just given a dictionary definition if youre retarded but you really need to know what youre talking about if you plan on arguing. Dont just go and spew bullshit you see here outside without understanding the basis of the argument or without doing enough homework on the subject.
Remember, the point of arguing isnt about being right. 2 or more oposing sides try to convince each other through logic. dont be a stubborn fag and refuse to concede if you know youre wrong. But it sounds like he didnt manage to give an argument that was good enough so he didnt really win the argument. If your going to be a natsoc, you shouldnt care about what other people think about you, if you're natsoc because you genuinely think this way, you shouldnt care how you look in front of other and should be able to defend your argument. But if youre natsoc because a bunch of autists on the net are like this or for some other dumb reason then dont. If youre going to argue, you need to be devouted and actually do research and work.
YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO A QUESTION AS SIMPLE AS "WHAT IS MARRIAGE", "WHAT IS RACE", DO YOU HAVE DOWN SYNDROME.

Marriage: A union between two people through relegious means or not. In a sexual/loving sense.

Race: The classification below specious. Where different groups individuals can reproduce together but have many different qualities that are suitable to different habitats (eg. white wolf/ gray worf)

TL;DR : are you actually this fucking retarded that "what is marriage"/ "what is race" a difficult question.

everybody should watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q8BLfefGtg

>>130610146
>implying confidence is arrogance

The meek really have inherited the Earth. Or at least, post-modernist Christianity.

>>130594487
What are you fuckin retarded? You debate like any other person. If their diversionary tactics defeat you then you lose the debate, so sharpen up.

What is race? A fucking competition between runners. What is marriage? A legal contract between two parties to become a single entity.

Then get back to the topic at hand, but you sound kinda like a wimpy shit head

>>130610686
Where different groups of* individuals

im dislexic apparently

>>130610646
At the cost of liberty?

>>130610686
I love the name. Now your dubbies will charge YOUR name, and elevate YOUR magic.

>>130610863
The meek need to form a bundle of sticks because they can't stand on their own. The strong tend towards ideas and policies that allow them to thrive like capitalism, individualism, and libertarianism.

>>130611188
>The strong wolf is mightiest alone

Heh, literally Hitler

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>>130611188
>he said while rolling an 88'

>>130595707
This is the honest to God truth, you are expecting an argument in good faith but they will just dodge and dissimulate endlessly, nitpicking and avoiding committing to anything concrete, it's literally not worth dealing with.

>>130594487
all of you /pol/ people sound like idiots.

>>130611703
Oh no, Hitler said something that vaguely aligns with what I said, I guess I lose.

>>130610962
Liberty? The only liberty many of our people have today is to scrape by on a knife's edge budget, all while our (((politicians))) spend an entire years earnings on a single meal. Once these Kikes have been done away with, and the safety and enthusiasm of the state has been secured, then the people will enjoy the greatest liberty, so long as they work with the community, and do not endanger their common people.

"The more completely our ideas triumph, the more liberty can we concede in particular affairs to our citizens at home."

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>>130594487

>>130611940
>sound

How to debate a Jew in two easy steps

Step 1: Commit them to a position

Step 2: Pick holes in it

>>130594487
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

>>130612051
>>130612051
Yeah, the one thing Hitler said that was NOT collectivist, and that somehow makes YOU the dumbass. You can't argue with their logic...you're literally talking about their fuhrer.
>>130612072
Really, did your life suck here? Could you not have gotten good job/credit/loan/business like anyone else? WTF are you whining about again? Fiscally?
Ever watch them videos of asians/africans, crouched in the dirt eating rice with flies landing on their eyes and on their mouths...AND DON'T EVEN FUCKING NOTICE.
Your problems are very first world.
Check your privilege.

>>130612569
Making a lot of assumptions there, pal.

>>130612822
Wrong assumptions?

>>130594487
formulate a logical syllogism and an adequate definition for marriage which is defended by an argument that tradition simply is because it works. Explain that Evolution isn't about throwing things away but keeping what works and traditional marriage here is prevalent thus it works.
You don't even have to believe what you say. Anyway to define race you must define race within phenotype and genotype from people who have historical roots in a specific area enough to cause a biological distinction that interbreeding would produce the same folk. This is the scientific definition of species.
Europeans in general are the same species with different phentypical expressions, however not all meds are pure europeans and in that sense they can be seen as a separate European species.

You should ask him if he is Jewish and then ask him what Jewishness is in his opinion, just so that he outs himself as a kike. make it seem like you're just curious about his thoughts upon Jews possibly being an ethnicity.

>>130612072
Frankly I'll take a dangerous freedom over the security of a cage. Your words are the words of a man who has given up and is too afraid to stand on his own 2 feet. But hey I'm the cuck for expecting to defend my wife with my own strength.

>>130612927
Yes. For context's sake; I was born into a middle class family that lost all of its wealth, and I have spent all of my youth in trying to dig my family out of the financial hole that I had no part in (something I have had some success in doing). Besides which, you seem to have missed the forest for the trees. My main point was concerning Liberty, not fiscal responsibility.

>>130613324
You're ridiculous. How on Earth did you manage to come to that conclusion based on what I told you. I just said that Liberty could be afforded when the people ensured the triumph of their own race. How did you manage to interpret that as a "cage."

>>130612569
>why feel sorry for failed third worlders while taking a hit for greedy capitalists who started this mess to begin with?

>Really, did your life suck here? Could you not have gotten good job/credit/loan/business like anyone else?

obviously not as easy when you¨re dad isn't in real estates and connected to high rank jews..

>>130613407
No I mean the whole thing is ridiculous...blaming only Jews. Sounds like personal failures to me. I feel you been there.
But it is ridiculous...people do all the blame Jews crap, and I am not a fan, but still, this makes us sound like such fucking cucks.
If Jews really MADE US DO ALL THIS, rather than us being partners in crime...then I don't even wanna be white...that's too much cuckery for me.
They hardly spend any money, they like playing the game and they are GOOD AT IT...they make LOTS of money for the countries they are in.
Also...Jewish media CANNOT influence ANYONE. This is BS. People allow themselves to be manipulated.
I honestly see no reason not to see ISraeli patriots as my kin, and fellow sovereignty supporters.
I see Pakistani patriots the same way.
Quit being such dicks all the time, and take responsibility.
Preach responsibility.
>>130613966
Give us your kids. We need another sacrifice.

>>130613851
When liberty has to be "afforded" it must have been taken to begin with.

>>130608218
the jew is a top-down thinker- he starts with his position and then builds arguments that point to that conclusion.

you can try to out-jew the jew, but if you've ever read the talmud, you know how exhausting that would be. they go on for pages and pages about choosing when fucking a toddler counts as a marital union, for fuck sake. nothing about punishment for sticking your dick in a 3 year old, just when it should count technically as a marital union.

now, in this story, the jew takes the position that race doesn't exist. it is easy to anticipate his next move- he will simply ask "why is that a part of the criteria?" every time you answer.

the obvious counter to this is the biological classification system- i.e. explain that race is simply another word for subspecies, as are found in many other mammals. while cross-breeding, etc, suggest that we belong to the same species, subspecies are distinct groups within a species which can produce fertile hybrids, and so race is just another word for that. if you want to go on the offensive and score bonus points, you can also attack the premise that the reason humans categorize things is because it is useful to us cognitively, and arbitrarily deciding that race is not a valid category, even though everyone knows exactly what it is, has no possibly valid rationale

he might try to say something like "there are more similarities than differences in our DNA". at which point you can point out that we share roughly 86% of our DNA with bananas, but that doesn't make us mostly banana.

i don't know why you would debate marriage with a jew, they are satanic and wouldn't recognize a holy union even if you described it to them.

>>130598573

>He said "well, if we go far enough into DNA then we are all the same"

Actually if you look at someone's DNA closely enough you can tell their race with the same certainty you can tell their gender.

>In our own studies, to avoid coming up with our own definition of race, we tend to use the definition others have employed, for example, the US census definition of race. There is also the concept of the major geographical structuring that exists in human populations—continental divisions—which has led to genetic differentiation. But if you expect absolute precision in any of these definitions, you can undermine any definitional system. Any category you come up with is going to be imperfect, but that doesn't preclude you from using it or the fact that it has utility.

>You'll like this. In a recent study, when we looked at the correlation between genetic structure [based on microsatellite markers] versus self-description, we found 99.9% concordance between the two. We actually had a higher discordance rate between self-reported sex and markers on the X chromosome!

http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.0010014

>>130614120
maybe if you provide a 11/10 waifu I´ll concider your offer. right now you arent really bringing much to the table

>>130607649
College is full of Jewish professors and they are terrible at arguing. All they can do is memorize and regurgitate things other people say and when you find the smallest flaw in their argument they can't think critically. They form arguments based on assumptions that are rarely correct. They are also one track minded and bringing something relevant that is outside of their realm of expertise they are clueless.

Jews believe that knowledge is all you need so they are basically a pile of books or a hard drive, nothing human.

>>130614179
And it has been. Which is entirely the point I originally made. We are only free to do what the Kikes want us to. The Jewish media tells us what to do, think, laugh at, and buy. The jewish owned politicians outlaw us from expressing opinions they deem wrong ("hatespeech"), and monitor every single word we say in order to enforce their suppression of our Rights (NSA, just for a start). Indeed, the police find it more worthy of their time to arrest and harass those who send mean tweets, rather than try and pursue Islamic terrorism. Liberty has been dead for a long time.

>>130594487
listen to Jared Taylor you idiot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z90KJWk3dPY

>>130614750
Still, fairly difficult for the average person. Were it not, how in the fuck we get in this whole JQ prob to begin with?
SO they tricked the whole world, but they're not creative? I think you're just a fucking hater. Jews are the best story tellers on earth. I I thought everyone knew that....if you're gonna be racist, at least do it honestly.
>>130614703
You're halfway there already. Towards authoritarianism...we're patient people. Maybe not you, we might not fully get you...but your kids...

>>130615199
as long as we get the fed .

>>130607961
>Against collectivism
Do you acknowledge the personhood of highly intelligent animals and accord them the same bssic rights given to other individuals?

>>130599937
What Didn't Happen: The Movie

>>130615199
Jews are parasites. They can only feed off a host. Without a healthy society as a host they are nothing. So yes as far as parasites go, jews are the best there is.

>>130615987
No I'm a Christian not a faggy hippie

>>130617408
That's where you are wrong. Every group has their elite that has thrived off of Jewing the fuck out of other people.
What race are you from, that is so innocent of these things, that you speak w/ such superiority?
Ever heard of South Africa, or America, or Russia...?
Wasn't that white people forcing natives to 'just deal' with being suddenly multicultural?
We didn't even make up a BS name for it...just did it. Like a BOSS.
You my friend, are just a fucking hater. And if you don't think Jews ever work, you are INSANE...have you ever seen the NYSE floor?

I win forever!! I win every argument forever!!
I am the Chosen one!! I am the Champ. There's never been a greater champ!!

I had to bury my best friend. And I dedicate this fight, I wasn't going to fight, I dedicate this fight to him. I was gonna rip his heart out cause I'm the best ever. I'm the most brutal and vicious, and most ruthless champion there's ever been. There's no one that can stop me. Lennox, is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander, he's no Alexander. I'm the best ever. There's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston,I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah.-"Iron" Mike Tyson
(And yes, hes on our side too)

>>130594487
Call them a kike then call it a day

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>>130595707
This. Hitler was 100% right. I know this from growing up around jews and constantly having to deal with their bullshit.

There is no way to actually "debate" them, because they do not argue in good faith. They are not actually open to learning anything or being convinced of any ideas. They simply see debates as a form of verbal competition that must be won, no matter the cost. You can dismantle every aspect of a jew's argument and still he will not yield. It's not worth it.

When a jew brings up shit like "what is race" or "what is whiteness" just tell them to shut the fuck up, that you know that THEY KNOW DAMN WELL what race/whiteness is, and that they only ever use this sort of sophistry when whites talk about race.

>>130594487
>Marriage
The fundamental unit by which we pursue the maintenance and building of society.
Why?
B/c marriage:
>Is the best method for raising decent honest children that are functional members of society.
>Every study we have shows that married couples are better for children then any other model.
>It's not even fucking close
So what is marriage?
It's the union of your soul into the social contract such as to propagate civilization itself and accept the burden of the next generation.

>What is race?
Race is largely speaking sub categorizations of the human species. Namely we evolve to meet our environment, while being the same species certain genes might be more beneficial in certain environments, thusly those genes are propagated.
So what is race:
>Same species
>Small variations between it.
One can get into the minutia from there.

Honestly Goy the problem is not Jew or no Jew, the problem is 1) you don't seem to know how to debate these are basic questions when dealing with commies, 2) This has and always will be a commie thing(the whole whataboutry). 3) Assume commies act facetious, every point you make they will pretend right down to the bone is this that or the other whatabout nonsense. You have to go into a fucking argument with a plan to trap them under their ideological presuppositions, if they refuse to state any then they are not being serious and tell them to fuck off for wasting your time.
Your welcome goy.
t. A Jew.
Also side note:
Why do the fucking Natsocs and Kekistani's get a flag on /pol/ but (((We))) don't?

>>130619227
Sorry shlomo, but derailing the debate and chasing down rabbit holes is precisely what the jew wants. Everyone here knows what marriage is and what race is. But it simply serves as a springboard for the jew to jump to even more tangential off-shoots.

And the problem IS the jew.

>>130620291
No I find it's one of three things:
1) He's facetious and wants to powertrip all hur dur muh intelligence in which case fuck him not worth talking to;
2) He's doesn't care and is wholly ideologically committed in a malicious manner.
3) He's a useful idiot who has sort of bought it but is not malicious.
The first two avoid unless in public debate in which case you must know how to tear them apart in humiliating fashion the first by 1) being nonchalant 2) calmly pointing out how he is just bullshitting.
For the 2nd You set up ideological traps and you tear apart publically.

The third group is redeemable misguided fools and depending on your relationship you might want to reach out to save them.
>Everyone knows what marriage and race is
But do you know how to articulate it? B/c if you don't the 1st and 2nd category will run circles around you and hang you in debate. Saying everyone know goyim is a weak argument even when one is correct. Why b/c if you can't articulate your point you are the one made the fool. You want to hang these people in public debate if you refuse to sharpen your skills they will crush you. You need to know how to explain what you believe. If you cannot articulate your beliefs and your opponent can either articulate their own beliefs or acts maliciously you will lose every time.

This is an important skill and saying that daring to debate is what the rabbi wants Oh NO GOD FORBID WE ARTICULATE OUR IDEA's. That's why you lose goyim. Anyhow I need to go to bed goyim, if your still there OP sort out what you believe and figure out a way to explain it that is not autistic.

>>130594487
>Teach me senpai how to debate the jew without pointing him out directly.
Force the point. The Jew loves semantics so don't engage in it. "What is race" and "what is marriage" are perfect examples of this tactic. They know what you mean by those words. They'll bring their definition into question in order to wear you out mentally. They have no desire to engage your mind when it is at full strength. Therefore, they'll bog you down in semantics until you get frustrate, and then use a joke or some kind of word play to figuratively land a killing blow. They will dismiss the argument entirely after this point because there is no need to risk a victory by reengaging on the same battlefield.

If you can't simply force the debates topic, then the best thing to do is flip the question, but also reverse it. Ask them what they think you are talking about when you say race or marriage. Picking apart their response will make them seem like the ignorant one. This is literally what they are hoping to do to you. The conversation will effectively play out the same, but you'll be the one "winning" and that'll make them feel frustrated.

They want the debate to revolve around what you are saying. They want to attack your point of view while keeping scrutiny away from their's. Get them to explain their ideology and attack it; don't get stuck defending yours. There is nothing wrong with listen to them spout liberal drivel for 5min just to find a flaw and push your thumb into it. No one will remember the talking points of the debate, but they will remember the conflict (Just don't sit their gawking while they are talking).

>>130596620
Prove there are no white people or that the Jews are white Shlomo.

>>130619107

I have a friend like this. His style of argument is all about emotion. He's either crying and referencing how he or some POC he knows was oppressed recently while completely ignoring my argument or he's calling me racist or sexist or evil while shaking and crying.

When you call him on his insanity he tries twisting my words around or misrepresenting my position. For instance, in reference to Mexican immigrants, I s