Must really suck being from Southern Europe, eh?

>>130566450
We need a faggot subset for Sweden and Netherlands.

>>130566450
At last they had stone buildings 3000 years ago unlike "nordcuks"

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>>130566872
''It remains unclear when, why, and by whom the earliest dolmens were made. The oldest known dolmens are in Western Europe, where they were set in place around 7,000 years ago''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolmen

>>130566450
greece definitely goes into shitty poor europe, italy probably too. spain is the only one that belongs in the middle.

>>130566450
Italy isn't poor.
2 of my aunts go to work there.

>>130567663
Depends which part of Italy. North is almost Switzerland, south is almost Poland.

>>130566450
southern europe best europe. they are friendly, chill and fun people to hang around with. unlike uptight autist northern europeans

where are >we?

>>130566872
>Living in stone buildings in the cold north
Go ahead and do that. you'd do the world a favor.

>>130568364

Why is your army so big, turkey?

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>>130567468
Drenthe detected

>>130568526
That was irony desu. Did you missed quotation?

>>130568609
because everyone wants us for some reason

>>130568886
*wants us dead

>>130568409
amongst the ancient kangz of africa

>>130566450
the shitty poor europe has the largest economic growth in europe take that with a stable future and make of it what you will

>>130568868
I'm autistic do not bully me or I will have to call law enforcement.

Cumfirmed

>>130568526
I kinda do that now sven...

>>130568886
who wants you dead besides kurds?

>>130566450
Meh, its ok, not too "cucked" and not too poor.
Aurea Mediocritas.

>>130566627
and those german cucks

>>130566450
jealousy is a bitch

>>130569371
Russia until President Roach knobbed Putput's dick

>>130569371
ar*bs, chinks, kikes, most of the europeans, some balkan countries, an*los, some greeks, russian animals, arm*nians etc

I think south americans, africans and a couple of turkic countries don't mind us existing

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>>130568080
this should clear things out

>>130570016
>I think south americans, africans and a couple of turkic countries don't mind us existing
because they are either turks or they forgot that you exist
just remind them and trust me, you'll have your beloved death threats

>>130569982
well yeah i forgot about Russia but this was always like this geopolitics mate way before the plane

>>130570121
what is the gay flower next to the Israel?

>>130566450
nah it's bretty comfy, best food and best women

enjoy niggers and fake cheese, also kys

>>130570894
hong kong i think

>>130567663
Italy is the third economy in Europe and like top 20 in the world you dumb fuck....

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>>130566450
>Must really suck being from Southern Europe, eh?
No it doesn't, though
Being Mediterranean is the true redpill, seeing the rest of the world treating your ancestors like some kind of gods, seeing your culture and food being praised to heaven
Of course, now days you have some trouble here and their but yeah our history debatable kicks the most ass in human history

>>130572793
Italy is the 8th largest economy in the world.

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Sorry can't hear you over our 0 muslim attacks since Saracens raided us during the middle ages.

>>130572793
calm down mi figlione

>>130573924
>implying they didn't leave a mark in your gene pool
luigi go check your southerners you'll be surprised

>inb4 cherrypicking

>>130574158
you wish mohammad, your ancestors got their shit kicked in

>>130574158
when the normans arrived the islamic shits got kicked off so hard that they never came back, not to mention that they mostly kept to themselves

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>>130574262
damage control: the post

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>>130566450
russia should be in the center as well

>>130574794
>history is damage control
damage control: the post

>>130574517
>what is inbreeding with the local population

>>130574898
not what they did
and stop LARPing

>>130574896
so you are denying that they left some of their gene in the genetic pool of the southern euro ?

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>>130575030

>>130575030
yup, for the most
certainly not in south Italy, maybe very little in Sicily which was the only area of modern Italy under actual muslim control for a small period of time

>>130575103
>half of the face predates islamic incursion
>also cherry picking northener

nigga stop
go look a genetic map and explain to me why J2 is so prevalent

>>130574847
Russian muslim population is bosniac tier, they're not a cultural threat in any way, although their demography is strong. Middle eastern/Maghreb/Machrek muslim=/= european muslim, who are losing their faith as the christian did here.

>>130566450
Spain is also cucked.
They have s-s marriage.

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>>130575279
bronze age(confirmed by a sample from bronze age croatia)
J2 is nearly absent among arabs or north africans

>>130566450
>uncucked gipsy nigger jews
they're shit. i have to endure the pain to work with them

>>130575153
wasn't there a place in southern italy where the ottomans established but failed miserably ?
pretty sure condoms didn't exist back then and you could always find a pussy for the right price

>>130567663
>he doesn't know how charts work

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>>130575449

>>130575466
yes, failed miserably
and people knew how to abort since antiquity

>>130574517
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Sicily#Society
>During the Norman reign, several different religious communities coexisted in the Kingdom of Sicily. They were: Latin Christians (Roman Catholics), Greek-speaking Christians (Eastern Orthodox), Muslims and Jews.
Keep lying to yourself Giovanni.

>>130566450
But the only muslims we have are in the north in Thrace and we got those from the Bulgarians, who didn't do a good job in offing them.

The rest just pass through, we sent those to Germany.

From all the migration wave only like 2000 of the buggers stayed here.
They also desperately want to leave but they have fucky papers and will get deported.

We are a country of 10 million people.

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>>130566450
Spain is not that cucked by muslims (yet?), there is far more latin immigration, we don't like it but it's not the same, we share the language and some cultural aspects.

Also, there are no fucking jobs so why would they come here instead of Germany, UK, etc.?
Many latin americans are going back to their countries.

So yeah, just shitty poor.

>>130570894
Hong kong, but I have no idea why would anyone put Hong kong as a reference.

>>130572793
Calma, calma mi amiga.

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>>130575449
>J2 is nearly absent among arabs or north africans
J2 is the marker of semitic group

>>130575598
oh man
the dedication to think that people throughout the age cared about racial purity
whatever helps you sleep anon

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>>130576106
completely wrong, you are clearly completely illiterate about the subject, are you american perchance?
J1 is the semitic marker, not J2

>>130576224
you too man, your are getting BTFO hard here

>>130575279
read the fucking text you larping bastard

>>130575630
religion=/=race

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>>130576312
apologies i mixed up
still
check that southern italy

>>130576312
again, compare this map with >>130575449
makes perfect sense and is in accordance also with archeogenetics data(data from bronze age anatolia and balkans)

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>>130576312
J2 in Italy and Greece is the Ancient Greek/Roman heritage gene
>pic related is facial reconstruction of Roman nobility that was found in England

>>130576590
if you look at the actual percentages from Eupedia for instance, you'll see it's actually higher in central Italy than in Sicily

it's either neolithic/bronze age in origin(J1 was again found in ancient samples) or also in part due to jewish communities

>>130576606
Hellenes and Italics were Indo-European speakers, so most likely not
J2 might have been Aegean and Etruscan though

>>130576106
This is the biggest study on Greek genetics ever, read it and weep:
http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/fallmerayer/

We are the same people that lived here since neolithic times.

The conclusions of the paper:

The most complete study of Greek skeletal material from Neolithic to modern times was carried out by American anthropologist J. Lawrence Angel who found that in the early age racial variability in Greece was 7% above average, indicating that the Greeks had multiple origins within the Europid racial family. Angel noted that from the earliest times to the present “racial continuity in Greece is striking.”

And:

We summarize our conclusions:
Modern Greeks are physically similar to ancient Greeks.
Modern Greeks are contrasted to northern populations, including Slavs and Albanians in different genetic marker systems: mtDNA, Y chromosomes, and autosomal DNA.
Modern Greeks retain characteristics of a southern European population of indigenous, pre-Slavic, Balkan origin.
Both in its crudest form (complete anhilation) and in its weaker form (significant northern admixture) the Fallmerayer thesis has been falsified by anthropological evidence.
It should be noted that some admixture probably did take place, although this was not sufficient to alter the genetic characteristics of the previous inhabitants of Greece. This author does not claim that genetic purity is an ideal for the Greek people, but simply that genetic continuity is established by the evidence.

>>130566450
where are we

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>>130566450
bongs and frogs deserve a special "Go outside, die in a terrorist attack" section

>>130577052
that study is a bit old, some samples from neolithic Peloponnese have recently been published and they are not like modern Greeks, but that is actually to be expected since like most of Europe you received steppe input, as well as some bronze age west asian input

see http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/05/09/135616

>>130576837
> it's actually higher in central Italy than in Sicily
thank you for falling in my trap and confirming what i said about ottoman incursion in central italy

they tried to establish a foothold in mainland italy to try to conquer rome (because muh 3rd rome prophecy) thus their base being so close to rome (central italy)

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>>130577901
>this incredible attempt at damage control
holy shit
so you are unironically claiming that said J1, already found in bronze age and neolithic Europe, is due to some failed attempts by ottomans to raid Italy?
just how pathetic can you wewuzers get?

>>130572793
It doesn't mean shit when that money can't better your society. Look at China, they're the second largest economy in the world and they're almost as bad as South America.

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meh, it's alright.
also, you are not getting cucked by muslims, you are getting cucked by your government and people.
i'd rather have a 30k euro paycheck and have a few muslims here and there, if muslims tried doing this shit here people would just start burning their houses down if they started even the most minor shit.
just look at our gypsies, they work on garbage dump disposals, as street cleaners, on the fields and actually live their own lives while causing no problems because they know that the people and the police treat them like americans treated cotton picking niggers back in the day.
we are genuinely nice people tho.

>>130578111
refute it please

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>>130576606
b-but muh ancient mediterranean population that was actually germanic!!! w-we wuz emperors n shiet!!!! this doesn't align with my views!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>130566450

No it's actually very fine down here, wouldn't move to wherever the fuck you live, thank you. You're welcome here though buddy, I'll make you a special muslim dish you'll love.

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>>130578232
>refute something that I completely failed to give any evidence for despite being shown supporting counter evidence
absolutely embarrassing

>>130578142
is this slovenia?
FUCK SLOVENIA, CROATIA TOO
just to be sure

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>>130577470

Moortugal is an African country

>>130566450
> eh?
>troll flag
Leaf detected

>>130577782
Well check how many times different Hellenic tribes migrated to the same area after the neolithic times and you'll see why.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ancient_Greek_tribes

As the study says "the early age racial variability in Greece was 7% above average, indicating that the Greeks had multiple origins within the Europid racial family"

>>130578388
the image?
it's Nis in serbia.

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Thank you but I'm fine here in northern Italy

>>130578629
fuck serbia croatia and slovenia then. your flags were on sale or what

>>130578383
read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_Italy#Ottoman_migration
really makes me go hmm

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>>130566450

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>>130568409
Burnt to ashes.

>>130568051
Kek

>>130579003

k

>>130579029
you have to explain to me how raids equal rape
you are grasping at every straw at this point, must feel bad getting BTFO this hard

also, just for your information, Eupedia reports J1 at 3.5% in Auvergne, France, against a stunning 5% in central Italy.
Did Turks also raid Auvergne?

>>130579349
also, J1 is very minimal among Turks themselves, so that makes this whole attempt at damage control even more sad

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I don't get why Russia is considered poor

Is it poor by Western Standards?
I've seen worse places in America

>>130579349
look into the principe de ssayed and his descedant do you really think they never toucher some italian qt ?

also no turks in france but moors they went farup to poitier and look into fraxinet you'll be surprised

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>>130566450
DELETE THIS!

>>130579349
They want to tell you that because we live in the beautiful south and our skin is darker we're somehow mongrels.

Their endgame is that they want to claim that our ancestors, founding fathers of western civilization were Nordic, Germanic, whatever so they can claim to be the superior race of people.

It's all we wuz ancient advanced civilizations too and it's all so tiring.

>>130580171
this

>>130579349
>you have to explain to me how raids equal rape
this, also the raids on southern Italy were often to take prisoners to sell as slaves (well into the 18th century on sicilian shores) so it was actually yhe opposite: they took some women that went to enrich northern african genetic admixture

>>130580566
>implying they wouldn't rape some that they'll leave here after weeks of no pussy on a boat

Excuse me? We have almost no muslims, and our economy is improving a lot.

>>130579349
no answer ?

>>130580171
Alexander's men walked all the way to India on foot wearing metallic helmets, shield and a sarissa (4–6 metres (13–20 ft) pike). Each soldier carried other provisions too.

No sunscreen, no towel on their heads, nothing.

I wanna see a Nordic person do that.

>>130580171
they just cannot accept the fact that there wasn't a single ancient white civilization

and I measured my words correctly here: I don't want them to call us "white" either as I don't want them to have any funny ideas about the place of their actual ancestors in antiquity
we all know that even those who call us "white" do so so that they can pretend they had anything to do with ancient civilizations, not certainly because they see us as their equals

and notice how unlike them none of us needs to deny their own recent achievements, we can perfectly recognize their own great things without feeling the need to make up some sort of wewuz or straight up denial

>>130581493
no point, you already got destroyed and now you are just making up new shit
this is my last (You)

>>130581624
so you just don't have anything to say to mooris incursions in france and turk assimilating in napoli ?

facts always prevail

>>130581525
The man said it all and it seems the rats have burrowed for now.
I'm gonna go sleep, I have work tomorrow.

>>130570121
>Umbria is jewland

lol why?

>>130575279
Haplogroups are a ridiculous small part of someones dna. It basically tell you nothing about heritage.
There are blacks with R1b millions of them in central africa. Whta matters is pca maps autosomal

>>130576590
Millions of europeans have J1, but those J1 lines are so f ancient and some sub-classes domain in Europe and not in asia. But like ive said you can score E3b or J1 and be 100% european (autosomaly that's what matters)

>>130566450
>isn't even there
JUST

>>130584166
you can be absolutely sure you are talking to some illiterate ape when they bring up haplogroups as the all and only determinant of race
I suggest you stop giving him (You)s, it's no use.

>>130567663
>What is a Venn Diagram

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>>130566450
>Being fucked with just the tip of the dick as compared to taking to the whole schlong

>>130566450
>italy poor
I think we stopped being third world and poor in the 1950 you damn retard
We are the 3th biggest economy in Europe and near as rich as Europe

>>130566450
Iceland, Switzerland and Finland are in neither circle

>>130570121
this cant be correct, japan alone has twice the gdp of japan.

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>>130580768
>economy is improving a lot.

hahahaha good joke manolo

>>130566450
I think Britain should be in the cross-section between cucked and fighting the cuckery

>>130574898
It is often claimed that Italians, especially those from the South of the country, have substantial Middle Eastern and African admixture acquired during Roman times and the Moorish occupation. However, data from anthropology shows a prehistoric origin for the Mediterranean elements in Italy, and detects no Negroid influence there whatsoever. Genetic research confirms this, showing that both sub-Saharan and Arab-Berber admixture are negligible. The differences between Northern and Southern Italians have also been greatly exaggerated for political reasons.

>>130575030
Combined data from two large mtDNA studies provides an estimate of non-Caucasoid maternal ancestry in Italians. The first study sampled 411 Italians from all over the country and found five South Asian M and East Asian D sequences (1.2%) and eight sub-Saharan African L sequences (1.9%). The second study sampled 465 Sicilians and detected ten M sequences (2.2%) and three L sequences (0.65%). This makes a total of 3% non-white maternal admixture (1.3% Asian and 1.7% African), which is very low and typical for European populations, since Pliss et al. 2005, e.g., observed 1.8% Asian admixture in Poles and 1.2% African admixture in Germans.
(Plaza et al. 2003;
Romano et al. 2003)

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>>130566450
More Russia to the red

And it's no Islam, its subhuman nonwhites

>>130578236
Nordicists like to claim ancient cultures for Northern Europe, and attribute their decline to the absorption of slaves. To accomplish this they offer selective evidence and conjecture, while overstressing the significance of blondism. In the case of Rome, the data, as well as Roman statuary, shows that the producers of that culture were subracially mixed, with Alpine and Dinaric elements predominating, and that slavery must have had a negligible impact. Also, the culture's igniting spark came from the Etruscans, who were Mediterranean.

>>130592175
Meds are mongrel and if you live in Aus as a wog, you just further confirm Northern superiority

>>130566450
>wealthy enough not to be an impoverished shithole
>moral enough not to be the degenerate West
Feel good being Mediterranean

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>>130592421
You are Slavic-Illyrian though. Put on Ustaše pin and bash some cigans

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>>130581525
oh man.. you just said it all right there.
Post 10/10

>>130566450
>eh?
A FUCKING LEAF IN DISGUISE

>>130580171
this meds have always been dark , the muslims today were all once converted

>>130592269
lol im more successful than majority anglos i meet so..

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i have never seen someone be this BTFO this hard than this Jihadi flag poster

>>130566450

DELETE
THIS

>>130592269
Also implying Australia because of any innovation or self directed economical progress rather than happening to land on a vast store of natural resources.

>>130566627
Why the Netherlands? We didn't vote in a left wing party like for example France. Our three biggest parties are anti-immigration.

We are significantly less cucked than Germany/France/UK/Sweden, but it's still bad.

Look at the football teams.

France is niggers only.
UK almost all niggers.
Germany half muslims, Sweden too.

Italy and Spain are still 99% their own kind

>>130570121
Wtf is this showing? Per capita?

>>130574847
False

>>130592731
The only thing your country will be remembered for is allowing a jew ideology to completely dominate your country and lead to the death of more than 50 million of your people plunging it and half of europe into a dark age for almost 50 years.

>>130593089
In Australia. That would make sense if you were Italian born and made miliionare. You just parasites from Northern built infrastructure
>>130593961
So like Rome after the Edict of Caracalla and Italy post-WWII?

>>130575526
>portugal that high
Now I know why we were great (((merchants)))

>>130579632
remove Wallstreet and the Fed with unlimited ((dollar)) supply from the US and its nigger africa tier country.

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>>130566450
>>130569634
>>130576020
>>130578332
>>130580768
>>130593445
>>130594262

>>130594085
Yeah explain to me how northern Europeans were directly responsible for the economic success of the country though.. I mean they drove some trucks and dug a hole and happened to capitalize on the industrialization of a 3rd world country (china)..
>i have more money than you and id probably have more even if i was born in your shitty country.

>>130594085
Also quite a few Italian/Australian contracting companies here responsible for a lot of the development of the major cities.

>>130593961
>20 ((gorillion))
your sauce?
>black book of communism
top kek this 20 gorillion meme needs to die, its was vastly exaggerated by the the Wallstreet banksteins.

>>130595123
lol there is no way you will ever be able to defend how badly you got dominated by the jews man

>>130594507
They built it and let the wogs only in the 1940s
>>130594507
Which they built using Northern shaped infrastructure. Look, diaspora claiming anything is pathetic at best

>>130594423

>muh nothing

u jelly?

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>>130595384
you dont understand, because you are uneducated on the matter. The communist vibes were in Russia long before the lenin, at least 20-30 years before him. The 20 gorrilion christians dead is a meme made by the church because the russian populace got tired of the corrupt fucks in the bed with the government.
The only thing that is true is holodomor but even than its vastly exaggerated and happened not only in the Ukraine but everywhere across the USSR because the landowners didnt want to share their cattle and grain and instead burned it all down.

The ((rothchilds and others)) got scared shitless that their shekels would be taken away and ditributed among everybody, so they shat down your head for literally a century, meanwhile the USSR pulled the dirty peasants from mud huts with illiteracy rate of 70+ percent to a first man in space with 95+ literacy rate and free housing for every single person. All the jews that nazis scare you with were atheists and killed jews in russia if they were ruiling class on pair with everybody else.