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One of Germany’s most senior defence officials has become the latest to add his voice to calls for a European army.

Hans-Peter Bartels, Germany’s national defence commissioner, on Monday called for Nato’s EU members to organise their militaries into a single force.

“In the end, there will be a European army,” he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/19/eu-army-inevitable-says-senior-german-official/
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>>130564672
Germany trying to take over europe again.
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Good. Then we can leave NATO and focus on Asia.
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>UK leaves EU
>OH shit lets make an army
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>implying an army of mixed nationalities will work
>inb4 muh legion

its going to be chaos through the enlisted and bullshit power struggles for the officers

>inb4 so a regular army then XDDDDDD

no, even worse
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>>130564672
Nuclear weapons come next.
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>>130565086
yes
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Its almost as if Germany enjoys losing every world war then being forced to pay for the damages.
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>>130564969
>Good. Then we can leave NATO and focus on Asia.
You can stay in NATO. It will have 5 members, the US, UK, EU, Canada and Turkey.

Not so bad, isn't it? The coordination among the members will be a lot easier.
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>>130564672
>Germany can't even manage to keep their own military up to par with the fairly lax NATO standards in funding and readiness
>want to run entire continent's military
You'd have to be a super retard to think this is a good thing for anyone but Germany who will of course dump their military obligations on everyone else.
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>>130565548
whats the point having a small military that can't invade anyone? you could go without on as well.
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>>130565134
The wehrmacht had many different soldiers in it from different countries and they were the able to fight 3 superpowers for 6 years
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>>130566859
And so it will be again, lad! Under the banner of Europe! Forward, march!
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>inevitable

They keep using this word...

>"Mass-immigration is inevitable..."
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Will refugees and migrants be exempt from service so that they can remain back home with the soldier's wives?
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>>130566859
Pretty sure the Wehrmacht lost
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guess we are going to have to invade Europe and BTFO of Germany for a third time
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>>130564672
Great, a superior force to suppress people who want to rise up to the mud slide immigration occurring, effectively forcing people to accept the destruction of their countries.
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>>130565150
>Nuclear weapons come next.

so THAT'S why they wanted france.... to steal it's nukes.

and sell them to israel
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>>130564672
Yes pls, I can only get so wet. Make the EU great again.
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>>130565086
Can't have others leaving, can we?
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>>130564672

We should attack and nullify Europe entirely before the globalists build their first army. Nip it in the bud now rather than later.
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>>130565937
It's to keep the knowledge on how to teach warfare.
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>>130564672
EU already can't afford debts.
Many countries at risk of collapsing.
Some already filed bankruptcy
Most Europoors are afraid of guns
Already invaded by Muslim horde
US making them pay their fare share for NATO
US not going to protect them anymore without good reason
No more Muh Russia is invading bullshit
>HERR NOWS THE TIME FOR OUR OWN ARMY
they're legitimately this stupid.
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>>130568349
Today, tomorrow, 100 years from now.

America > Europe

They wouldn't stand a chance.
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Ohy yes europe get ready to be anschlussed it will be fun i promise
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>>130564672
>Only Trains army to help refugees settle in
>France denies EU army access to French Foreign Legion
>EU Crumbles during the first battle against hardened taliban goat fickis that learned how to actually aim their ww2 era rifles
>Pic Related will cry at the state on modern day European warfare.

Can't wait the see the hardened training regiment EU Army will go through.
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>>130565173
you your gonna loose again
this time for the right reasons though
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>>130565395
don't forget about Norway
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A worthless has been country whose special forces have to drill with brooms because they don't have a gun thinks they can play superpower? Hilarious.
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>>130564672
One would ould get more bang for the buck at least and a functional weapons industry. Also each country would get standardized equipment
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>>130565150
SOMEONE,
KILL HER.
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>>130564672
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man ?!?!?!?!?
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>>130564672
>Austria-Hungary 2: Electric Boogaloo is finally taking proper shape
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>>130564672
I have been in the army as communication specialist , I hope that they are not going to conscript us into their (((army)))
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Someone needs to edit that Wyatt Mann cartoon where it's the soldier being commanded by ((MERKEL)).

JOIN THE EU ARMY so you can fight for ISLAM
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>>130566859
The Wehrmacht had foreign volunteers, an EU army is comparable to the cluster fuck that the K.u.K. Armee was.
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The topic has been brought up sporadically for quite a while, the discussion quickly died because no one had a real interest in it.
But it's been 4 or 5 months we keep getting news about the EU discussion on the subject. So what would the EU army look like? I don't really know, it's always hypothetical sentences, they never come up with something concrete like "3th cavalry division of France, 15th infantry division of Germany...etc. under the same banner".
The only thing they always repeat is "the EU's army would intervene where NATO won't" (like Ukraine or Syria to reinforce the CJTF for example).
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>>130564672
Finally, the EU is acting to protect itself from the rise of Nationalism in countries that want to save their citizens and culture from drowning in Islamic migrants and paying insane fees to a centralized (((government))).
Goodbye, Europe.
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>>130564672
>german lead EU army

Oh boy. The is genius. If the nazis had 10% of merkles diplomacy skills ...
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>>130566859
LOL

The foreign soldiers were a major weakness of the Vermarcht. Remember how well those Italian and Romanian units did protecting your north and south flanks at Stalingrad?
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>>130565086
We're going to get invaded aren't we?
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>>130565937
How does nobody ever notice how much she looks like Hitler. I mean, that facial expression, that coat, that posture.
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>>130564672

Its a shit idea. Multiple armies from multiple countries fought in WW1 and WW2 and it was fine, and people didn't even speak English then. The Germans just want to control everything because their penis shrinks every time they can't micro-manage other people, and the French want to feel relevant for the first time in 200 years. The worst case scenario is that the EU-army is used to suppress any dissenting countries which want to leave the EU in the future.
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>>130564672
>EU army
>giving the lead of the millitary power to a global, private, unelected authority so none of the members democratic mecanics ever apply to it in any way
>a good idea
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>>130569606
Let's just get the band back together. Killing krauts is the one thing that always brings the world together.
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>>130564672
Shit
Shit
Shit

Enjoy your dystopia, europe. Your going to be replaced by muslims and be required by law to accept it, haha.

Also, we nuke you if you fuck with our trade, got it, punk?
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>>130569319
I wouldn't expect such a dramatic change. An EU army would most likely just function as a central leadership or the various national armies.
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>>130564672
Can't wait for world war 3.

Why you guys had to go to the lefty / muzzie side though? It was breddy cool when you guys were nazis.
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>>130569657
>The Germans just want to control everything because their penis shrinks every time they can't micro-manage other people, and the French want to feel relevant for the first time in 200 years.
10/10
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Without england holding europe down with their retarded prole nationalism (ironic since they sure love that brown curry cock in their arses) it's natural the EU will become more capable. Waste of population and economy without an army to project influence.
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>>130569606
Not if America has anything to say about it.

And fortunetly, we do.
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>>130564672
this is enough for me to want to leave this part of the world, this is giving literal communists an army that will crackdown on whatever they want, as this will definitlely be deployed against europeans if they in any capacity fight back.

a EU army would go in and take out Golden Dawn if they ever got into power, fuck i hate this so much
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>>130570191
>it's natural the EU will become more capable

But they plan to get another 100M "climate" refugees in the next decade.

That's a lot of people my dude, taking the UK out and replacing that lost population with literal mud dwellers won't help.
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>>130564672
>In the end, there will be a European army
No, thanks.
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>>130569657
yeah its Soviet Union kind of deal when one wants to break away they send the army to crush you that is the only way to maintain a multi-ethnic multi-racial nation
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>>130569319

We could keep national forces and just have a EU command, logistics and standardized equipment. That alone could double effectiveness of European forces.
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>>130568349
>US
>not globalist halfnigger shithole and the source of that jew filth spreading around the world
Zero self awareness.
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Europe will need to be united to face Russia, China and the U.S during the upcoming resource wars
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>>130564672
NATO, dipshits. The Merkelmacht makes no fucking sense.
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>>130564672
I smell the tower of babel
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>>130564672
>Country with no military spending arguing that putting our armies in (((common))) is inevitable
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>>130564672
This is not the Reich that I imagined.
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>>130569608
shes is his daughter-
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>>130570712

Fuck your unelected NATO bureaucrats.
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>>130568919
At least we don't let our ships be sunk by cargo-vessels.
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>>130568664
Ave!
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if they're going to fight and die for the right to cuck themselves, i will gladly sign up to help put them out of their misery
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>>130564672
>How to disarm European nations and subjugate them to Brussels' rule.

That's the real purpose here. Any member nation basically gives up their sovereignty. You can protest as much as you want against EU tyranny, who cares when they can just militarily oppress you? No army means no way to defend against anything that Brussels doesn't want defended (you know, stupid shit like your national identity, your people, your borders etc.)

The next step will be a centralized police force, so ANYBODY who carries arms will be under Brussels' direct control.
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>>130570804
>This is not the Reich that I imagined.

These are not the Europeans you are looking for.
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>>130564672
There already is a European army, it's called 'ISIS'.
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b-but the Guardian told me during the Brexit campaign that there were no plans for an EU army!
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Germany lost two world wars and Europe is still going to let them take over.
Europe has become something more than cucks. They are like super cucks.
Merkel should write a book called Mein Cucks.
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>>130570420
Taking in enrichment and diversity is not EU problem alone.
>>130570514
Such a thing will be a total mess and probably afflicted by chronic low morale and plenty of other problems. Professional army in which citizens of all countries of the union can serve is better and more practical option and will be far more capable. The real problem either way will be the existing EU bureaucracy that simply isn't a proper government.
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No fucking chance, m8s
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>>130571238
Is that the standard colorization for gypsies? I wouldn't know, even if we're supposed to have a bunch for some stupid reason.
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>>130571614
>There already is a European army, it's called 'ISIS'.
What is the CIA?
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>>130571967
>Is that the standard colorization for gypsies?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0dOmLZRoug
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>>130564672

The superblocks are reforming and we all know where that went last time
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>>130564932
>European army
at least this time they are not outright killing, perhaps we can go Salarian on them and fuck their shit up from inside. we are incompetent enough.
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>being led by Germans
so, which war are we gonna lose?
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Serbia strong!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il0o8rwDWJI
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>>130571767
>Such a thing will be a total mess and probably afflicted by chronic low morale and plenty of other problems.

Why that? It would keep existing structures very much intact, to a point where the average soldier doesn't even notice much change. So why should this lead to low morale? It would also kill the fake and retarded argument an EU army would make a country defenseless in case it wants to leave. Surely a fully integrated army would be better in the long run, but I think it would be a good start.
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>>130572185
So no?
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>>130567156
of course, someone has to repopulate germoney
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>>130569606
No. We still have, despite the meming, a very potent navy and airforce, and the weather-bracket in which an invasion can happen is small throughout the year.

That and we have an ace up our sleeve

>pic related
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Out of all the globalist ploys, the EU army is the most interesting. My prediction is this - The EU Army will be comprised of mostly immigrants. This will allow the EU to wield its forces in order to subjugate, and eventually, dissolve, all individual national governments. The Muslims serving will show no empathy to inhabitants of europe. Genocide will quickly follow as dissidents are rounded up and gulag'd
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>>130573359
>the weather-bracket in which an invasion can happen is small throughout the year.

lmao. you guys are totally nuts.
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>>130569608
One can only hope. Holy shit, imagine if she actually turned out to be his daughter and all this shitskin immigration was part of her 6d chess masterplan towards something us mere mortals can't even comprehend
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>>130572852
Same reason why NATO's 5th article is shit. Few of those signed in nation X would like to die to protect nation Y, insert a dozen other issues and some nationalism maybe with a dose of disruptive foreign propaganda and the mess is obvious. In addition, most armies in europe are already dysfunctional and incapable of performing any action aside from filling paperwork. Besides the french and formerly the brits, who else can actually fight with more than broomsticks? If army is to be made, I think creating it from the ground up is not only the best but the only option, if good results are sought of course.
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Today a common army. Tomorrow, the world
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>>130564672
Lel. Like making an army would work. I'm guessing half is probaly going to be muzzies and the other half niggers and both are going to be lazy half the time and then praying to a voodo god the other half.
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>>130573900

Explain.
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>>130573359
>That and we have an ace up our sleeve
Only if the Republicans are the majority. The Democrats support a unified EU against the UK.
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The only army I'd ally up with in Europe is the Finns,Norwegians and Brits.
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the gub'mint to re-introduce conscription-lite( it was supposed to last for two week), couldn't even manage. it seems that our german overlords had enough of troublemakers and incompetents. the krauts are going to organise us whether we like it or not. They are AFRAID. of THEMSELVES. and now Europe has to pay for their crimes. Oh, the humanity! ... and all the passengers!"
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>>130574035

So what is your proposal? Dismantle all European military and build up a totally new EU army? You can't be serious, I think you're trolling.
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>>130574476
you might not have the choice sven, you might need all the friends you can get after brussels crashes the economy into the ground
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>>130572895
Your girls will do just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZyf5fy4g4o&feature=youtu.be&t=3267
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France to push for European Army NOW as it pushes Germany for more EU integration

FRANCE will ask its European Union allies to push ahead with joint defence projects - as the country steps up its backing for an EU army.

By ZOIE O'BRIEN
PUBLISHED: 15:28, Sat, May 20, 2017 | UPDATED: 16:51, Sat, May 20, 2017
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God I love shoving cocks me arse

slam it up me arse bruv
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>>130567024
FINGER OF THE DAMN TRIGGER! *REEE*
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>>130574974
FUTURE NEWS
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>>130568598
As long as we destroy England. Spare Scotland.
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>>130564672
>"European" army
They will disband the already undermanned and underequipped units of the German military and fill this new army with sandniggers. Destroying all hope of a military coup in the process.
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>>130564672

Or how to conquer Europe without actually conquering Europe.
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>>130565150
I hate that hand pose.
Is that a german thing?
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>(((Anglos))) don't want an united European army

Really makes you think
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>>130564672
well fouth reigh incoming!
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>>130574239

Wtf is there to explain? Thinking about an EU invasion to a point where you talk about weather patterns is fucking pants-on-head NUTS. There will be no EU invasion. Promised!
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>>130575335
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Fuck it, this time we're giving every square inch of your Kraut clay to Poland.
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>>130574754
Bind the existing underfunded structures through treaties to do, well, something at least. Create new supra-national professional army on EU funds, this can also act as the aforementioned central command by anon few posts above. Then slowly integrate the existing militaries into it, or wait for war to do it for you in a more energetic and faster manner. You better hope you win in that case though. The point is to have european army willing to protect europe and its interests - not european armies with different goals and politics, sometimes opposing each other or used by external powers.
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>>130575335
Because we have to save Europe every fucking time you destroy yourself.
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>>130575878
>save Europe

I see your doublespeak is double plus good, truly nobody can beat the eternal Anglos at orwellianisms
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>>130575878
Napolean seemed like a cool guy, the Germans wernt the bad guys in WW1 and you surrendered to the US in WW2. WW2 was not your victory.
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>>130575791

Uhm.. kay.
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>>130575878
>save
This is what drunk chavs actually believe.
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>>130575878
>Because we have to save Europe every fucking time you destroy yourself.

Uhm, maybe you should have focused on saving your empire lmao
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>>130576632
lel
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>>130565173

Lynch it
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>>130564672
>implying EUROGENDFOR doesn't already exist

why does the EU always have to make redundant shit for everything
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>>130564672
JA JA JA JA JA JA JA !!!!!


FÜR EUROPA FÜRS VATERLAND! FÜR MEINE EURO BRÜDER AND SCHWESTERN!!!!!!


JA JA JA JA JA JA JA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bylj_hZPv-8
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>>130576712
>terrorist attacks
>muslim rape gangs
>eroding middle class
>bad teeth
>cheap cladding
>soft brexit

It's like a million voices yelled "GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND" and God said "I'm on it."
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>>130576865
they are just integrating and renaming shit. the only difference is that they doing it EUrope-wide now. and there's nothing to stop the evil idiots
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>>130564672
Not on our watch, given the answers of our general staff to the proposal and mindset of our soldiers in general this would cause a massive unrest in the French army.
There's a whole legacy of French opposition to the European army project that no French politician would even dare to trample.

Krauts won't touch our sweet nuclear warheads, and can still dream about us giving up our seat at the security council to their meme union.

Germany is and will remain a midget on the international scene. As it's meant to be, for the sake of Europe's survival.

No matter the desires whatever officials of their big meme of an army. In terms of defense, germans don't have their say.
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What if we could somehow hijack the EU ideologically and turn it into some sort of pan-european white nationalist idea/organization
It's just crazy enough that it might work...
We could produce massive quantities of memes that associates the EU with european nationalism
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>>130577125
didn't you hear? its the MOTHERLAND NOW!
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>>130564672
Cool I guess they don't need NATO then.
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>>130577254
France to push for European Army NOW as it pushes Germany for more EU integration

FRANCE will ask its European Union allies to push ahead with joint defence projects - as the country steps up its backing for an EU army.

By ZOIE O'BRIEN
PUBLISHED: 15:28, Sat, May 20, 2017 | UPDATED: 16:51, Sat, May 20, 2017

FUTURE NEWS bitch
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>>130564932
They been trying since time began.
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>>130565150
No.
Muslim takeover comes next.
SO army or not you loose
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Time to dust off those German water-treatment plans, Israelis!
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>>130567024
That is one qt3.14.
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>>130564672
Sweet, at long fucking last!
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>>130570514
Wow, a bureaucrat cocksuckers from Germany and France orders us to catch bullets. I can already see myself storming the beaches for them....
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>>130577254

Seems to me your country just voted for something different.
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No way France accept an UE army, NO WAY.
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>>130577480
>France to push for European Army NOW as it pushes Germany for more EU integration

I kind of love Macron, he single-handedly saved Europe from rural and suburban retards <3
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>>130577313
Sexists!

You think females re better as country then males? IS THAT WAHT YOU SAYING!


Fuck it lest call it non genderd host clay of mucho importance NGHCMI!

FOR THE NGHCM!!
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>>130565150
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By inevitable, he means that the army will be done by 2846.
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JA JA JA JA JA JA !!!!
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>>130566859
They did not fight 3 superpowers for 6 years
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>>130577693
i can't tell if you are joking. it scares me
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>>130577762
its already done all its needing is a EUHQ!

and your privileges ore done for!
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>>130564672
What german will fight to ruin their country and europe?
Certainly not the faggot cucks
That means they will have to force conscription
Muslims are shit soldiers
They also wont listen to white commanders
Their army will fall apart and only destroy germany
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>>130565150
>but not nuclear reactors lol
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>>130564672
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>>130571587
>upside down UK flag
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Nobody wants a german army posing as EU army.Not after mutti made it clear she is a complete retard and cant be reasoned with.Not after germans will vote for again.
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>>130577984
yep good that it was training your army cant afford training at all.
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>>130577893

I'm being absolutely serious. The day Macron won the election was the best time I've ever had on /pol/, the butthurt was PALPABLE :^)
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>>130577642

You're free to get out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>130564672
ffs, almost every single Golitsyn prediction from the 70s is coming true

>USSR & Warsaw Pact would undergo a fake liberalisation and breakup
>leadership of the newly independent states would continue to be former communist officials, but would claim to be pro-democracy and have diverse political views
>Lots of ex-USSR/WP states join the EU
>Push for a united European military to replace the US presence in Europe
>Either Russia itself would join the EU(and with its satellites + left wing Western parties have a majority of votes) or it would stay outside and pretend to pose a threat to Europe to encourage military union
>Eventual result is the complete US withdrawal from Europe and breakup of NATO
>If Russia joined the EU previously then mission accomplished, if not then there will be fake regime change followed by them joining and assuming control of Europe
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>>130564932
Whay happens if European army decides to invade Germany?
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>>130577649
With Macron and his newly majority government?
Maybe you should have voted instead of spending time on the beach.
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>>130565173
Disgusting
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>>130577254
Your armed forces is made up of around 20-30% of muslims. They will gladly answer the call of jihad from the grand mutti of germanistan.
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>WHAT!? HOW DARE TRUMP DEMAND US RAISE OUR DEFENSE BUDGETS TO SUPPORT NATO
>FUCK DRUMPH
>EU, WE NEED AN EU ARMY
>EVERYONE GIBS US MONEY FOR AN EU ARMY
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>>130577643
Macron can't do it, nobody can do it, you'd have to have deeper knowledge of the French political scene without lining up three words without looking like a retard on this issue.

Cooperation may be, as there is right now always was between european nation
But an European army is a big no no for every official in the army it's not even debatable at this point.
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>>130565173

Based <3
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>>130565086
Gott strafe England, er strafe es!
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>>130578303
yeah, but what if the army has no say? what if sometime in the future due to betrayal, they are forced to ally themselves with other Europeans?
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>>130578254
kek, army is predominantly white, what are you talking about?
France's muslim population is 7.5% (reliable sources)
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>>130565275
Idle Hans are the devils work
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Its impossible for Macron to give the Army to the Europe.

It would be a revolution. Far Right would never accept, far left would never accept, most standard right would never accept.
In fact noboddy would accept except him.
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>>130578653
>france
>allowing reliable sources or statistics
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>>130565937
(((Public Order)))
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>>130578303
sure sure child, because the french army can deal with the USA or Russia or any one on there own.

Its us or them.

Its Europe deciding what happens around its borders or it will be others doing it.


Together or be enslaved by us of niggers selling your nation when they feel so to do.
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>>130578653
you talk to retarded burger scared the shit out of him loosing any egge they had.

21st century belongs to Europe!
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>>130564672

Or as Coudenhove-Kalergi would have called it:

The army of the European-negroid race under the spiritual nobolity of God's Chosen People of Israel.
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>>130578303

I don't claim deeper knowledge of the French political scene but your suggestion the French military could revolt against the president seems, well, interesting to say the least. News I read seem to suggest it is his publicly stated policy to move ahead with this.
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>>130579032
A union that cant protect its borders even from unarmed bunch of niggers crossing the borders does not deserve any control over armed forces.
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Why would any nation sign up to be Germany's vassal state?
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>>130578645
Our army has a tradition of being silent as long as the status quo is not being questionned. Hard nationalism is rampant in the army especially among high ranking officials. Foreign legion paratroopers would rain on the Elysée palace if Macron were to pursue this project.

French army is not some submissive bundeswher cuck tier institution. It has important traditions and all.
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>>130564672
It will be the U.S., Canada, and the U.K. vs everyone else again. We already know how this plays out...
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Europe is a shitty name for a country desu
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>>130579032
France has enough nukes and submarines to kill any superpower that wanna hurt us.
And btw Russia and America dooesn't wanna make us any problems.
Don't try to try raise the specter of a non-existent threat for spreading your ideology.
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>>130578943
It's from Pew Research, so, not France.

Are you happy cuck boy?
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>>130564672

This is a pretty simple idea. It's NATO without the US.

Most of these countries have done peacekeeping, NATO actions and US Coalition missions for decades.
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>>130579428
>Canadian army
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>>130579428
+Australia,poland and russia
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>>130579336
A union witch took in said niggers by them self, united staates of niggers witch coased a flood of niggers to the EU to draw them in to a war they are loosing on all fronts deserves no alliance no acces to its ports and airfields.

Get the fuck off my continent nigger!

Europe for Europeans and Euro interests not amernigger interest!
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>>130579405
Tell us again on what happened in
Algeria, and the france armies patriotic response to their leaders
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>>130579405
and how is the status quo working out for you right now?
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>>130579702
Hey at least the leafs get a participation award.
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>>130579747
See you when im burning the flag of the fourth reich in berlin
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>>130579484
and thats why thaad is on eu soil disabling mad.

If you watch news or not you should see that the USA are drawing the EU in a war with Russia if you like it or not you be in there too.

You know whats funny, after you let the amerniggers on your french soil and cooperated with Israel the terrorist attacks took overhand in France, is that not funny and a strange coincidence?
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>>130579971
you can't, the germans are already doing it for you
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>>130578404
>When you focus too much on 1 front and get assblasted from the rear
Why do germans always make the same mistakes?
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>>130566859
Stalingrad got fucked because the Romanians fell back and Austria hungary had The worst army during ww1.
Stop spreading your propaganda
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>>130579971
implying you will be able to afford a flag.

Now fuck off my continent amernigger!

Your futur elooks like that

6 dollars a gallon and doge the BLM IED s´while driving from refugee camp to refugee camp, maybe if your nice enaugtht mexico or California will take you in.
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>>130565395
fuck off Hans, we're giving your asses up to Putin
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>>130580362
good you lost anyways, fuck off my continent amernigger!
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>>130564672
I unironically support slapping Germany's shit. Modern Germany is a cuckold globalist state full of white guilt faggots and marxists. Destroying you would be a good thing for the world
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>>130580059
There is no thaad on our soil, we can defend ourself.
I agree with you that America try to engage us in their stupids wars as usual, and thats why almost half Franchies were for leaving NATO (Melenchon+ Le Pen).
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>>130579032
The only way for a European army to be effective is with Russia's participation.

As the EU is a CIA founded institution that correlates with the interests of NATO (Article 42 of the European Maastricht treaty), there is a necessity to bring down the European Union for Europe to exist, as a community of nations with common interests without all the superficial gay shit around.

Russia's participation to the European army would make it the larger nuclear arsenal in the world, and able to compete with US's military forces on many levels. But as you can see now , the US jewish ran states is suppressing any effort of any reconciliation of the European peoples.
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>>130571844
except its Pilsen.
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>>130580497
you cant slap the shit out of mexico, NK, syria, iraq, quatar, iran you think ahahahahahahahha you can ahahahahahah germany?!

AHAHAHHAHA

amernigger education= nonexistent
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>>130568664
This timeline is strange... Germany with (Roman)ian auxilliaries...
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God bless, its about time.

We cant rely on US to unfuck ourselves. Whole refugee crisis wouldnt even be a thing if strong EU army existed nor should we worried about Russia and US upholding its part.

Strong eu is the only thing that will be able to stand against rising Asia and US aggression. That said EU army is the only thing that can protect EU interests in middle east. We cant trust fucking yanks nor do single states have the power protection.

Also safe future requires the controlling or conquering vital resources like fuel. Nobody else will do that for us
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>>130580667
However, we did kick the shit out of you faggots in two wars, wanna try again faggot?
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>>130579331
Further cooperation on specific fields maybe. But an european army as it was viewed in the 50s-60s would lead to a major European crisis because France would block the institutions on every level it can. Secondly, any president whatever his popularity is cannot make this political bargain right now, especially if it's not a specifically indicated in his program prior to his election. With the promise of a European army Macron would not have been elected.
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>>130580544
The EU army as it stands is bigger then the US military.

RU is welcome anyways in the future they would be invited to join anyways if they want.

But first thing first is to get rid of america.

American interest is not EU interest and they shit up our lives so some nigger in the staates can live cheap and safe why we bleed. Fuck that shit. Fuck the US niggers and fuck the USA in general, if the fuck ups think I live a live under the sword they can have it easy the mistaken.
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>>130580515
EDIT: Seems there is some THAAD on EU soil, its a shame, and thats exactly why i say fuck to this European Army, we clearly all don't have the same diplomacy
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>>130564672
Just like he planned
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/argentina-128-year-old-man-claims-he-is-adolf-hitler/
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>>130580942
yes come and get some fuck up.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-us-armys-biggest-fear-getting-crushed-devastating-land-18950

you couldn't win and fight proper land war if your lives depended on it. looser fuck up get the fuck out of my continent!
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Forget it Hans.
No fucking way we'll ever let you have a military again.
Let's arm Poland instead.
They will defense you while you enjoy the economic boom and cultural enrichment from illiterate immigration.
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>>130581252
would you shut the fuck up, stop hiding behind that shitty flag
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>>130567753
>and sell them to israel
South Africa already sold its nuclear capabilities to Israel. Get Woke anon.
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>>130564672
Gotta have a force to suppress the uprisings
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>>130579702
Come on man, don't pick on your retarded sibling. Thats not cool!
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>>130580515
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_missile_defense_complex_in_Poland

to bad your wrong and your ICBMs are usles and wrost thing its one of ouses that the amerniggers are drwing EU citizens in to a war so teh ycan safe ther enigger asses.

They want EU city's to burn they want EU citizens to die.
This has to end and the US has to be thrown out of EU soil!

If the amerniggers want war let them fight it on US soil let US city's burn let US children die NOT OUR EU CITIZENS!

EUROPA FIRST!
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>>130564672
There's no way I'm fighting for anything but country, Germany can go fuck itself.
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>>130581363
or else what?
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>>130566859
They fought two superpowers for a few months
Then one for two years
Then 3 superpowers for under a year
Then they slowly lost ground to 3 superpowers over 3 years before their country was cut into pieces to share between those 3 superpowers

Don't forget they had support from another aspiring superpower and a regional power
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>>130579800
The president was the target of several attacks and an army ran terrorist group led action that could have led to civil war. Also, the foreign legion paratroopers would have been dropped on the Parliament if de Gaulle had not intervened, the fly sheet was ready.
Read more you brain dead faggot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1958_crisis_in_France
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>>130576632
>not showing the Empire at it's full strength after WW1

mad about the loss of your "empire"
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>>130579842
In the army, it's maintained regarding the European army issue.
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There's nothing wrong with this.
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>>130577642
>orders us to catch bu
Do you realize this guy is Czech and he is basically head of NATO?
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>>130574026

Well think about it - the immigration of shitskins and niggers has been happening since the 60's, but only merkels opening of the borders has brought the fact out into the daylight and has opened the eyes of many to replacement migration.
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>>130581891
and all that because France left NATO and CIA wanted de Gaul dead!

Its the same question like back in the time with NATO, make France a target for US crimes or do our own thing and be done with that shit!
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>>130581748
what? it's not like I can punch you through the internet. Roman Empire II or GTFO. Europe means nothing. The Mediterranean is everything
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>>130581061
your army will never be more powerful than ours, even If you joined forces with Russia you wouldn't be able to step foot on US clay
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>>130581645
Polishes are US bitches, they dont count.

There is no EUROPA identity, Italy-Spain-Portugal are OK, others can fuck themselves, France won't die for them.
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>>130564672
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>>130581952
yeah, but I wouldn't categorize France as a "peaceful" country at this time. What's the point of defending France if there are no french people left?
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I guarantee 1000000% that this EU army will be used to "keep control" in EU countries, whether a country wants to leave the union, or some "populist" party wins the elections.
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>Germany
>Pushing to expand the EU
No shit OP, is water wet too?
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>>130582160
>implying we just dont kill your and your industrial and intellectual ability ´s

that is all that counts. ITS ALL THAT MATTERS!

FUCK OFF MY CONTINENT AMERNIGGER!
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>>130581061
First threat to Europe is European Union that undermines our respective national agenda. How can nations trust an institution that threatens them with economic backlash because they won't allow human garbage on their territory?

The European army can't and won't happen under the banner of the EU, because it won't be in the interests of Europeans (Article 42 of Maastricht)
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>>130582335
yeah, but we are a minority my baguette friend
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>>130582335
You lads should leave too
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sounds like the EU fags are trying to seize power before it referendums itself away even more
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>>130582160
The sad truth.

That being said, it runs on heavy debt money.
In a real world war, that side of things would suffer a lot.
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>>130582335
This. It'll be a bit like UN peacekeeping forces.
>Oy vey, you don't want to play by our rules and let the migrants in? We'll dump a few thousand African soldiers on your country and look the other way while they abduct and gangrape your daughter.
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>>130582470
Sounds like american subhumans shit them self loosing what ever little control they had.
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>>130565086

We were the ones vetoing the idea.
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>>130570518
>US becoming less globalist by the month
>Eurotrash barreling towards world government and breakneck speed
>US is the problem
wew fucking lad
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>>130564672
>german officer

let me laugh pls
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>>130582634
Did the amerniggers threaten to take your ICBM´s away?

pathetic joke of a braking country
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>>130582402
maybe if you had any industrial and intellectual ability you could
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>27+ languages spoken
>somehow possible
germany already rules europe, whats the problem?
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>>130582451
We were almost at Fraxit!

Lepen= 21%
Melechon= 19%
Dupont-Again= 5%
Asselineau= 1%

Almost 50% of Frenchies are Eurosceptical/Europhobic
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>>130582740
says the nigger living of other nations.

ahahahah your funny you die last.
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>>130582732
you have no men left for your armies, maybe you can just full it with refugees
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>>130582805
lebensraum!

germany has been playing everyone for fools
nazi germany never truly ended
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what percentage of this army would be muslim?
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>>130582578

loosing
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>>130578404
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I can't wait until the Italians want to leave the union in a decade and German and French soldiers are sent in to shoot all dissenters.
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>>130582805
there are way more than 27 nations in the legion and it works
and americucks manage to learn french if you whip them enough
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>>130581061
The European army (Not EU) even with the participation of Russia wouldn't match the strength of the US army in many areas.

Russia has to be one of the founding member in this new institution for it to be considered seriously by other powers.
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>>130582947
https://apnews.com/7ac5bfab44fe4f9db639369b4c817951

you get more and more funny as you get desperate.
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>>130583093
hence america must be thrown out of Europe as the "safety of our EU citizens" comes first.
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>>130583154
who the fuck would want to invade america? it's literally a third world shithole unless you have a couple of billions to your name. except spics
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>>130578693
kek
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>>130583256
our total military is still over 1 million, there aren't more than 1 million non gay males in all of western europe
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>>130583154
and thats where you wrong kiddo,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_European_Union

The Eu right about now with its combined forces is larger then the US forces and keep in mind that the US is fighting on three fronts.

China in the east, its own incompetence in the middeal east and Russia in west.

The US cant afford shit and the EU forces as they re right now can wipe the floor with the US.
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>>130564672
Will definitely eneoll, PROUD TO BE EUROPEAN
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>>130583383
Not to invade America but to compete with it in terms of projection power towards certain areas of the globe with high strategic value (Middle-east for instance).
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>>130564672
>EU army
>NATO
pick one you stupid retarded American buttlickers
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>>130569606
Nah Charles, your shitty island is actually a fucking fortress. Maybe in the days of galleons and triremes, but in today's world England can't be invaded by anyone other than the Americans, and fortunately for you guys we have your back no matter what.
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christ almighty, where do you people live? on the far side of the moon? the EU couldn't invade fucking malta even if it wanted
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>>130583347
meanwhile your governments beg us to stay to protect your effeminate societies
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>>130575878
>WE WUZ VICTORS'N'SHEIT
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>>130565173
>We fight for Europe
>We fight for Merkel
>The str8 will never know rest
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>>130583668
can't we do that with money? let the burgers bomb them to the stone age and then we will come to rebuild
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>>130583556
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_and_military_service


we have man you have things. fucking degenerate army.

Oh boy look out there comes the gender subhuman lower standards for everything us of shit nations army bu fucking ho so scared.

come back when you got a real army.
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>>130583890
>meanwhile your governments beg us to stay

This is what amerilards believe. No one would bat an eye if you all packed your shit and left tomorrow.
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>>130567753
https://archive.fo/5lU5v
We can build them in a week, it's not a big deal.
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>>130578220

It won't happen. Germany will be in command of the European army. And you can expect it to be used against nations that try to exit in the future.
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>>130577642
EU army will be practically all rapfugees and mudslimes anon. No reason for a native European of any said nation to join a conglomerate force.
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>>130583606
even if you had 10 millions people in the military it wouldn't matter we would still crush you
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>>130583668
What would this union be called? What language would it speak?
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>>130583670
Then its Eu army all the way!

I swore a allegiance to protect my nation not to fight for some niggers interest in the USA.

Fuck them and fuck there needs. The USA have betrayed Europe and are only a fucking tick leeching of NATO hiding behind it.
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>>130583606
US army is undeniably more technologically advanced, manpower doesn't win a war nowadays, and here its not question of winning a war against the US but to impose European hegemony on the Int'l scene.
Therefore dealing with projection power and not blunt forces.
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>>130583644
If you're proud to be European stop displaying this flag.
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>>130584017
that is why you were all crying when trump said we would leave nato
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there will be a nuclear exchange within the next 10 years
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>>130583890
ever heard ami go home?


Your one kind of a retarded idiot.

What part of fuck of my continent you dont get? SINCE THE FUCKING 90!
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>>130584299
>that is why you were all crying when trump said we would leave nato

No we weren't. Nobody wants those bases full of smelly amerisharts on our territory, nobody.
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>>130583606
Nigger the US navy alone is more powerful than every European military combined.
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>>130582651
EU army = NATO
NATO = USA
ARE YOU THAT MUCH RETARDED? EU ARMY IS FUCKING NATO. NATO IS AMERICAN SHIT. PUT A BULLET THROUGH YOUR DUMB YANKEE HEAD.
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>>130564672
the eternal kraut striking again

do we need to bring freedom AGAIN?
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>>130582940
You sound about 14 years of age anon.

Hate to break it to you but the U.S. military is the backbone of research and tech advancements all over the world.

And U.S. factories are standardized to operate as war factories within a 24-48 hour shift.

E.U. is not going to be the decider of things for many many centuries to come. That's not to say they don't have influence, but don't bother trying to compare yourselves to America.
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>>130564672
Finally, I was getting worried I wasn't going to be able to frag any eurotrash when you come try to liberate us from our Constitution.
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>>130584200
Idk, whatever name suits the most. Units would speak their homecountry's language. The language challenge can be overcome with logistics and innovation obviously.
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>>130584454
YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF THIS DUMB AMERICUNT. EU IS 100% AMERICAN IDEA, THERE IS NOT 0.0001% THAT'S EUROPEAN IDEA.
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>>130583606

Larger, but by no means as well equiped. The french navy are worthy and north europe has some great special forces but the rest of europe would drag you all down. I have done an exchange with the spanish army, they were shocking. The italians were lacklustre too. And outside of Germany, France and random north european units, the spanish and italians were the best europe has to offer.
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>>130584299
No that ´s when we showed you the middle finger!

https://twitter.com/i/moments/843210084284997633?lang=en

Thats when your secretary did kiss every ones asses because the US is shiting it self it looses all its egge in deployment
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It will be terrible and tasked solely with putting down rebellions in problematic states that fail to see the benefits of precious refugees.
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>>130569063
I love the young folks
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>>130584299
planing to shoot your self?
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>>130584654
EU ARMY IS NATO
THERE IS NO EUROPEAN HERE, STOP BEING A RETARD.
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>>130584232

>protect my nation

EU isn't a nation, i think you mean the eussr
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>>130584454
You are the root of all of this.

The same is happening in your country and has been happening for decades.

You did this. You're continuing to do this.

Freedom your fucking self.
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>>130584628
The French commies came up with the EU though.
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>>130584439
Nigger the EU navy outnumbers and out techs the US navy alone and guess what nigger the US navy is split in two pacific and Atlantic. so the EU has the total egge against the US.
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How do neutral countries like Austria, Finland, Ireland and Malta fit into all this?
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>>130584628

Who let the slovenian in?
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>>130584747

nato is not the eu army, idiot
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>>130584405
>>130584663
delusional euro faggots afraid to show their flags
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>>130584663
WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU JEWISH RETARDS? STOP SHILLING. EU ARMY IS USA, NOTHING ELSE.
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>>130584857
Make European Union army. Sounds fucking amazing to me.
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>>130584803
WHAT COMMIES YOU DUMB CHRISTIAN SHIT? EVERY GENERAL OF EU ARMY/NATO IS AMERICAN AND ANTI-COMMUNIST. WHY DO YOU RETARDED CHRISTIAN SHIT CONTINUE TO BREATH THE SAME AIR AS NORMAL PEOPLE?
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>>130584848
>EU navy

I think you mean french navy, as no other nation comes close, and the french cannot touch the US
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>>130564672
top jej
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>>130573900
Its retardation like this that restores my faith in the world's ability to depose globalism.
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>>130584848
haha he actually believes this
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>>130584803
Nope, 100% CIA backed construction to consolidate western Europe against communism.

Most of founding fathers of the ECSC have ties with the CIA, not a tin foil hat conspiracy, its documented in every clear and critical EU history book, but too often forgotten.

Of course some leftist useful idiots and pacifists helped in the way.
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>>130584550
We dont compere our self to you we compare you to south Africa.

America has nothing to offer or any kind of egge to Europe to be even noticed.

Now if you dont mid sommer child fuck of my continent! As I said it many times before.
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>>130584979
You might like it, your countrymen won't.
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>>130584873
>>130584923
NATO IS LITERALLY EU ARMY DUMBASS. ALL WEAPONS ARE FROM NATO, WHICH IMPLIES USA. EU ARMY IS JOINED NATO DUMBASS AKA UNITED STATES OF EUROPE FAGGOT RETARD.
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>>130585045
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>>130565150
This is more like it.
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>>130585071
>canada deposing anything

Enough maple syrup for today Justin
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>>130584770
says the English tea bong sitting under the CCTV surveillance his e-mails and all communication under surveillance.


Your mixing there something up looser or you just cant say what you think because you get arrested.
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>>130571393
this, it's no coincidence Poland is leading the no rapefugees charge and then krauts start talking about a euro-army.
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>>130584848
Not true at all
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>>130584923
But NATO draws the orientation for the EU's int'l policy you dum dum

"The policy of the Union in accordance with this Section shall not prejudice the specific character of the security and defence policy of certain Member States and shall respect the obligations of certain Member States, which see their common defence realised in the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), under the North Atlantic Treaty and be compatible with the common security and defence policy established within that framework."
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>>130585394

I guarantee i have been on a watchlist since 08, nothing in the new legislation even worries me.
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>picture related all EU army high generals
HAVE YOU CHRISTIAN SHIT NOT FIGURED OUT IN 60 YEARS WHERE YOU LIVE? YOU ARE MOVING INTO UNITED STATES OF EUROPE. GET REAL YOU RETARD SHITLORD JEW BUTTLICKERS. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE GENERALS IS A CHRISTIAN ANTI-COMMUNIST AND PRO-ISRAEL AMERICAN. THERE ARE NO COMMIES OR EUROPEAN HERE. EU ARMY IS 100% USA.
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>>130585045
from some one who once had navy I would expect more.

The US navy is like Swiss chees, smells bad and has as many holes.
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>>130585093
I bet you believed in Saddam ´s WMDs too right retard.
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>>130575878
>save Europe
Refer back to >>130575517 - The only people you anglos save are jewish, and you do it at the cost of your own people dying. When an anglo says he'll "save" something created by and for whites, he means "destroy".

The Anglo signs a peace treaty with one hand, while tearing it up with the other. As long as he gets to taste the flesh of white men in his germ-ridden mouth, the Anglo dog will bite whoever his owner commands.

>>130576632
Whatever their jewish masters tell them, they do. If that means destroying their own nation, they'll do it. Everything for the jew, if you're an anglo.
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>>130585456

It still isnt the eu army, as it contains elements that arent european, namely america and turkey. But germany wants its own army again, and it wants others to die for her rather than her own. How long before they go the spanish route of redeploying the army in order to better control the people?
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>>130585618
And that ´s the true reason why England has fallen, you dead inside.
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>>130585623
and that´s a thing of past, the EU will be the EU´s army not the Americans or its extension. since Iraq america has shown that its not giving singel fuck about is allies and only acts in own interest.

Europe for Europeans and its army fight for the EUROPES INTEREST!
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this thread amounts to two euro fags with not even a basic understanding of the role projection of force and technology play in modern warfare
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>>130586048
goddamn idiot, do you think that just because Europe gets its own army, it will become free and strong? you are literally delusional.
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>>130585806

You seem to think you are transmitting sage wisdom.
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>>130586048
EU ARMY IS AMERICAN ARMY RETARD, ALL WEAPONS ARE BOUGHT FROM USA, ALL ORDERS ARE FROM USA, NOTHING IS IN EUROPE'S HANDS. YOU CAN'T EVEN CANCEL WEAPONS ORDERS, YOU HAVE TO BUY FROM USA OR COMPANY OWNED BY USA IN EUROPE. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD BE HANG AND TORTURED FOR YEARS, SO STUPID AND INCOMPETENT AMERICAN BUTT LICKERS. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND YOU ARE IN AFGHANISTAN AND YOU GETTING MIGRANTS BECAUSE YOU SUCK AMERICAN BALLS? USA WROTE REFUGEE LAWS FOR EU. HOW DUMB ARE YOU? USA WROTE LAWS FOR INTERNATIONAL WATERS WHERE THEY IMPORT NIGGERS TO YOUR LAND. STOP BLAMING COMMIES AND STOP PRETENDING THIS IS EUROPE. ALL AMERICAN FAULT. EU ARMY IS A CODE WORD FOR JOINING ALL COUNTRIES TOGETHER AND PAY USA MORE MONEY FOR WEAPONS. STOP BEING A MASSIVE RETARD. STUPID BIBLE TARDS.
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>>130583128
It will be a bunch of liberals "peacekeepers" without guns
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>>130585128
lol literal idiot child butthurt Europoor. Don't worry dude, I used to be one of you, the nI joined the greatest nation on Earth and renounced my former europoop citizenship for the mighty red white and blue.
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>>130586550
No its not
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>>130577254
don't be so sure, you guys just elected that idiot macron, after all.
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>>130586735
NIGGER CHRISTIANS RUIN ONCE MORE EUROPE AND PRETENDING THEY ARE SAVING IT. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO FIGURE OUT IN 60 YEARS WHO IMPORTS MIGRANTS AND WHO CONTROLS ARMY OF EU, YOU SHOULD BE SHOT. NOBODY WAS THIS STUPID IN SOCIALISM, ONLY BIBLE COUNTRIES PRODUCE SUCH EXTREME STUPIDITY.
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