putin general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRzhUO-Pz40

interview with oliver stone

>>130543187
I had about 30 minutes of it on in the background the other morning. There wasn't much to it if you're already familiar with Putin and how he operates, but it was pretty good anyway.

The version I watched required reading the subtitles, so you'd have to actually sit and watch the whole thing, which was not worth the time in my case.

>>130543565

does it have any potential to influence normies?

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/pol/ absolutely blown the fuck out

>>130543565

Is there a version that is overdubbed??

Either case, the overdub sucks. Hearing his voice while reading the captions adds to the analysis. His inflection, his tone, these are all essential to judging his character and weather what he's saying is true or not. Having an actor read it fucks that up. Stone did it right.

>>130543187

It's worth the time if you don't know what the Russian narrative is. You have to take it with a grain of salt...one of the most powerful men in the world doesn't just lend access to a foreign journalist or dictator without assurances that he gets the best possible light shone on him.

Not saying that he's a complete liar, but clearly the documentary serves his interest.

>>130544130
DELETE THIS

>>130543187
it's nothing go to sleep /pol/

>>130543873

Absolutely zero. The doc was discredited by the MSM as softball by Stone. Preconceived notions are the guiding force of normies... their attention span is 5 minutes or less, which is why Marvel has to pack it's films with "OMG THAT WAS AWESOME" and "LOL THAT QUIP THO" moments to keep them interested.

>>130543873
People who think Putin is the devil probably wouldn't watch it in the first place.

People on the fence or unfamiliar might find it interesting. He did his usual good job of explaining the Russian point of view, implying things, being witty on the spot, and making good suggestions for exploring repairs of world relations.

If a normie had never listened to one of his UN speeches or whatever, it would be informative.

If you only have second hand knowledge of him it's a must watch. If like me you've already watched him do press conferences there's nothing new to be learned here.

>>130544152
>Hearing his voice while reading the captions adds to the analysis. His inflection, his tone, these are all essential to judging his character and weather what he's saying is true or not. Having an actor read it fucks that up. Stone did it right.
Yeah, definitely. And they did a great job focusing on his hands and body language. Stone did a good job remaining at ease while getting Putin worked up, and you could see how Putin was trying to not be old fashioned upset not-PC Putin. But that's if you're going to sit and watch it carefully to enjoy the finer parts of the interaction.

If you're just curious about the back and forth and you have something else you want to do for hours then it would be better to be able to get the bulk of it from audio alone while you're busy.

>>130543187
I liked the part where stone showed Gorbachev with his jew master while making some negative comment about him as a traitor.
Oliver Stone definitely has some axe to grind with (((them))).

Oliver is just a cuck and agitating for Putin. No question has been properly answered or asked. Dropped.

Better just go and watch Navalny videos.

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>>130545173
I liked the bit where he went to visit Lenin's tomb and took the time to point out there's no statue of Trotsky. I don't know what Stone was out to do exactly, but it made for a better bit of archival documentary than I was expecting.

>>130545254
Yeah, it wasn't particularly hard hitting. But for intro material it was decent at just presenting Putin's public stance, spin, and reactions. I can't exactly say I've been very impressed with Navalny's presentations, even if they're worth looking at as well.

>>130545254

What question needed to be asked?

>Asked about hacking
>Asked if he preferred a president
>Asked about the democratic system...the "Tzar" comments

Not saying you're wrong, I don't know what to think about him. But since you are presumably Russian, what do we need to dig into to be fully redpilled about Putin?

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Fuck this Manlet.

>>130545254
>>130545949

Also, do you have any independent sources of info on the truth behind Putin? Google just fetches NYtimes, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC....

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>>130545949
>But since you are presumably Russian, what do we need to dig into to be fully redpilled about Putin?
It is impossible at the moment. No head of state will disclose any secrets or really important things. I'm actually really don't understand the purpose of this "movie". Just making hype and money? Maybe.

Putin or Trump will answer truly only at gunpoint or in exile.

>>130546327
I've gotten the most by seeing what he has to say for myself and bantzing with Russians here over the years to try to scope out their various points of view, and watching how opinions have shifted over time.

The Navalny guys occasionally come and work up threads about him, which I've found is often a good opportunity to get opposing viewpoints because it attracts the anti-Navalny as well as the odd guy out to talk up somebody else, and then you can get a little bit of real nigga hours talk without having to try to decipher the drunken circus of a Russian chan.

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>>130546327
>Also, do you have any independent sources of info on the truth behind Putin? Google just fetches NYtimes, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC....
In English? Putin is very secretive bastard with KGB background. We only recently found out about his grandchildren. It's hard to find something really important about him even in Russian.
The only thing that I can suppose is that he was a protege of the "Lake" cooperative (Ozero). The descendants of the ruling groups of former USSR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozero

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>>130546067
At least he loves his country.

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>>130547929
KEK. Our country slowly dying of corruption because of him. He cares only about himself, his family, probably some closed people and about how to keep power and global authority.

Just like mafia from 90th.

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>>130548305
It's the same in every country. At least he isn't trying to replace your population with third world shitskins.

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>>130548481
>replace your population with third world shitskins
We have some armenians or dagestanians and some of other -stans. The most black of them actually Tajiks. Most of them work on construction sites and dumps back when the first big money come. I'm was in The Netherlands and the level of "diversity" indeed incomparable (between Amsterdam and Moscow).

>>130548305

I don't dispute your claim. I don't live in Russia and only have one Russian acquaintance here in the US and she's not a big fan of Putin at all....but stops short of outright calling him bad. Maybe she's pro (((democracy))) (she works for one of the top two soft-drink corporation here in the US which I will not name).

That's not a large enough sample size for me.

What I'd like to understand: do Russian "normies" get influenced by Western pop-culture and want to be a part of that global in-club, while not having economic warfare with the west?

I feel like opposition to Putin is coming from the side of "it's hard being us against the world. We want to be culturally enriched and be part of the club...not an opposing force to globalism."

Is it just a "grass is greener on the other side" issue or do Russians really believe that ending of Putin would be better for them?

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>>130550736
M8, the west already wealthy, your main problem is pushing diversity and degenerative TV, celebrities, mass media. It's most important thing for you.

In Russia things are different. our first problem is our economy and corruption. We should overcame it first. Besides, I do not believe that Putin will really care about confrontation to cultural enrichment or something else that you're suffering right now. He's only doing that to his advantage now.

>Russians really believe that ending of Putin would be better for them?
Most of us are too brainwashed for thoughts like this.

>a bear gets into a car
>it catches fire and the bear dies
Can a Russian anon correct this joke?

>>130543187
Yes it is, don't listen to lazy/brainwashed Burgerfats and shills. Of course it's worth the watch.

>>130552154

Let me put it another way:

For the "non brainwashed" (such as yourself) who dig deeper, hasn't Putin improved life in Russia since the days of Yeltsin?

One of Putin's points in the interview which struck me (paraphrasing):

"Russia was a Monarchy for hundreds of years until the beginning of the 20th century...then it was under dictatorial Communist rule until the end of the 20th century... and it is on a path to becoming more and more democratic..but it takes time."

I found clarity in that statement at least in explaining his position and methods for ruling Russia...basically that he understands that his method is not ideal and that he has a ways to go in order to bring Russia into the state it needs to be in to be truly prosperous...but that it cannot be built over night (he's basically saying "Rome wasn't built in a day")

I want to here from you if there is any truth or logic to this statement? Is it complete bullshit? Is there some truth to it?

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>>130555332
>For the "non brainwashed" (such as yourself) who dig deeper, hasn't Putin improved life in Russia since the days of Yeltsin?
Of course life got better, but I guess it's not his credit. Economic system was changed, borders were ruined.

>I want to here from you if there is any truth or logic to this statement? Is it complete bullshit? Is there some truth to it?
There is a logic, yep. But I don't think that changes should take an age! Do you (or better say he) treat people like stupid and lazy bags with shit who enable to analyse the situation and show simple adaptability? Human can get used to anything and just as quickly become unaccustomed to it.

Sometimes I think that Putin from 2000 and nowadays Putin are 2 different people.

Also, Alexander 2 has signed Constitution draft on his work deck when he was assassinated. This the hell level of injustice has sent our country to hell more than a century.

>>130544152
>Not saying that he's a complete liar, but clearly the documentary serves his interest.
It isn't one-sided, though. There's an effort being made to try to create stronger ties between Russia and the West. That's what this documentary is ultimately about. Even if the left ignores it, it's only going to cement the message of cooperation deeper in the right-wing mind.

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>>130543187

Which one Putin was interviewed?

>>130543565
>if you're already familiar with Putin and how he operates

red pill me

Putin was surprisingly candid. I thought all the programs were interesting, well worth the time watching.

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>>130545949
>What question needed to be asked?

Why there is not a single video with your daughters during last 17 years? Do you really have family or this is just an agent legend?

>>130557427
It also creates buzz so that maybe people on the fence will have a look and think a little bit more deeply about it than they would if they lived in solely an MSM world. Seeding these things is an important part of propaganda, knowing that most of the times the seeds will take a while to bare fruit.

That's why virgins shitposting on /pol/ wondering about what the future might look like is an underestimated force.

>>130557777
CHECKED. Only way is to watch him operate for long enough so you can pick up on the way he baits, emphasizes, deflects, etc. Who knows which Putin it is or which of his advisors are making the calls but when they roll him out and he has to answer on his own it's similar enough for the casual observer to be impressed. Russians I've met IRL often have similar behavioral patterns, so it's probably easier for you guys to spot the inconsistencies.

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>>130545254
kys liberashka

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>>130558231
>Only way is to watch him operate for long enough

I learned only one thing for sure: you better be not relied upon "Putin". Although this is true for most of "leaders".

>>130545254
>Better just go and watch Navalny videos.

based Eltsin agains ebil Gorby 2.0 - cool story for morons

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>>130558649
>liberashka
I'm tired of this shit.

>>130558080
isnt one of his daughters in the netherlands dancing
and he sent his first wife to the monastery

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>>130558231
>It also creates buzz so that maybe people on the fence will have a look and think a little bit more deeply about it than they would if they lived in solely an MSM world.
Yeah, dude. Look at any of the videos for the documentary and there's people left and right sucking his cock. The propaganda effort has been a success in my opinion and the anti-Russian leftist crowd will only continue to isolate itself. It's beautiful watching it all happen in real time.

>>130558738
I would agree. All I would rely upon is small, careful agreements for mutual benefit, and only if they work out.

Those have a history of being viable, and that makes a lot more sense then escalating proxy war. If the US uses betrayal at every turn, then it is assured that Russia will respond in kind.

>>130547362
The less the world knows about his family, the safer they'll be.

>>130543187
His remarks concerning next years Russian elections are particularly enlightening. "Mystery and intrigue..." Dude knows whats up, and has no problem subtly calling out western media for their bullshit.

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>>130558851
>based Eltsin agains ebil Gorby 2.0 - cool story for morons
You have 2 options:
1) Stay in shit, proved.
2) Can be being shit as well, but maybe not.
Sorry "deep thinker", but I'll take my chances.

>>130559016
Well, it's like RT. When our media relies on blacking out information to push a narrative, it's a big wide open invitation for anybody to waltz in and create a new one simply by saying what's not allowed to be said.

Another reason why our current scenario is fundamentally self-destructive.

>>130556847

I understand what you're saying. You believe Russians can "handle" a fully democratized West-style system. And I think you're probably right... afterall we've got 300 million idiots participating in such a system here...and regardless of how bad they whine, they still have it better than most...

My question would be this then: Don't you think Putin believes Russia would lose it's identity and fall to the (((global conspiracy))) which is to say falling under debt to the globalized undemocratic banks?

Is it possible that he's shielding you from that until he is able to form a coalition of other sovereign nations to combat the (((Global Conspiracy)))? Or is that just propaganda?

Also would you consider that the corruption in your country is childs-play comparing to the corruption by the (((others)))?

>>130543316
>blocked in my country
nice

>>130559177
>still lives in 16 century.

>>130559682
Use hooktube.com. It's from the Norwegian archivebot guy.

Yes, very good.

>>130559584
go back to your subreddit retard

>>130559682

I would presume that all former Bloc nations which are now absorbed into NATO have very strict censorship of any pro Russian narratives...

>>130559807

Go choke on nigger-dick, faggot...

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>>130560080
>he even double spaced after a reply

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>>130559495
That's why I'm of the opinion that the Western anti-establishment right-wing movements have been either started or utilized by the establishment. A lot of the people riding Putin's schlong are also highly critical of the corruption in the West and the US in particular. It only strengthens the narrative for more cooperation between Western and Orthodox Civilizations. I don't think it's any coincidence Hillary wanted nothing short of nuclear holocaust with Russia.

>>130560014
Talking with butthurt belt people over the years has been useful as well, for me. Sitting over here in the US, it's lot easier to blow off Russia than if you're right next door with an embedded memory of the USSR, dealing with Russians and their cultural impact all the time, whatever other shenanigans they keep pulling.

Makes a lot more sense than our
>but muh russia
narrative.

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>>130560080
>>130560216
kek not gonna lie, that's bretty funny.

>>130559477
So, is work on Brauder payed good enough?

>>130544699

This.

>>130559735
No, just a realistic modern viewpoint. You'll understand someday.

Putin is like 1000 IQ and is playing you all for fools.

CNN said he is the wealthiest man in the world and judging by the documentary he seems rich as fuck.

>>130559682
Russian cunts murdered a few of my Lithuanian ancestors hence I'm now a burger.

>>130560238
Started I don't know, but utilized for sure. When RT started, for instance, it literally had on people we would today call our e-celebs. It was the funniest thing. And if you want to play the agitprop game like Putin does, it's the most obvious thing in the world to cater to the crowd that is upset with domestic government, capitalize on how one of the major counter-narratives is that the US is a dirty player as well, etc.

Fortunately, one of the memes that took root hard for /pol/ is to not trust any one source or narrative.

>>130559584
>Russia would lose it's identity
Which identity? Being evil opposite to the west? Or Slavic culture? The second one will be saved for sure. The first one is a product of the cold war and should be dropped.

>fall to the (((global conspiracy)))
We already integrated.

>Is it possible that he's shielding you from that until he is able to form a coalition of other sovereign nations to combat the (((Global Conspiracy)))? Or is that just propaganda?
Just another fighting group.

>Also would you consider that the corruption in your country is childs-play comparing to the corruption by the (((others)))?
Don't understand you right probably.
Corruption in Russia prevents its development. We almost don't have low level corruption our corruptions is hight level, officials, governors, all who are closer to power all steal.

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>>130559495
>RT
But daddy Kerry told me RT was Putin's propaganda mouthpiece, and that Putin was satan because he decided to bomb ISIS

>>130560590
>You'll understand someday
How can I? I'm too stupid!

>>130561381
why is she so perfect?

>>130561321
>Being evil opposite to the west? [...] The first one is a product of the cold war and should be dropped.

SWEET MOTHER MARY AND HER BABY JESUS!

PRAISE!

but how do we know it is not your another 11th dimensional trick?

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>>130561698
Tons of botox, she cant change her expression, and sadly she no longer wears sexy clothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01pT-hJU3o

>>130561381
The anit-RT trolling is so flimsy it hurts. Obviously RT is Russia's international propaganda outlet. Was that ever in doubt? But it's nothing but shoot the messenger.

RUPTLY was a good addition. Obviously biased as well, but just showing raw footage of whatever was a very forward-looking move.

>>130552154
Why do you want a CIA nigger running your country?

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>>130544130
>>130544285
That's just realpolitik, we all know Russia and Israel are enemies because of the deals with Iran and the strong support Putin showed to Assad's goverment

>>130561755
>how do we know it is not your another 11th dimensional trick?
The global platform is drastically changing. The fight will no longer be between nations but between civilizations (generally speaking). Check out "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order." The West (starting with Western Europe and America) are entering a demographics winter with Russia following closely behind. China will be the common threat to both civilizations. It is the rational and mutually beneficial choice that the West and Russia create new bonds to defend themselves against the East and it could easily escalate into another global war or an arms race if things took a turn for the worse.

>>130543187
yes absolutely worth the time

>>130561619
I don't get it. Are you resentful he won't talk about them because it makes your country look bad? In that case, just be grateful he doesn't have a tranny wife and fake children. It could be worse.

>>130543316
>blocked in your country
WEW

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>>130562504
>CIA nigger
John pls, this topic was discussed thousands of times in the runet.

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Post your RT newsfu, would you choose qt as fuck Emily Siu? or

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>>130563280
Rosanna Lockwood, the new girl on RT international?

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>>130543187
putin plays stone for a fool while trying to hide his cringing with forced smiles

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It's good, and he says nothing he hasn't said numerous times before, this is just compiled into one.

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>>130563012
>Are you resentful he won't talk about them because it makes your country look bad?
Is there any problem with showing your family in public? Every president seems to doing this.

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How do you say ourguy in pinko

Good one Vlad.

You can be our #2

>>130562923

>Why did Russia hack the election?

What was Putins answer?

>>130543187
1,000x yes.

>>130562830

I know there is no technical obstacle for you to post it under American flag even if you are from somewhere else but I would like to see it posted from an American flag.

Anyway, if both sides would not cheat then it could be beneficial to both sides. Russian have a lot of smart people but lack the rigor and energy of the We... well of the United States.

Well, if this is not some game I do not see from my low seat.

>Oli Stone
Will not watch anything by a lefty story teller, especially one from the '70s
NoBump
I would kill myself Svens

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>>130563399
or Polly Boiko?

>>130563404
This, he looked quite uncomfortable when Stone asked him about a future for Russia without him to protect it

>>130545254
You will be somebody's girlfriend in Black Dolphin very soon, navalnybot.

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>>130563421
He never said anything like that. It seems that someone made a image that he wanted to believe. (we are doomed)

>>130563404
Yeah the smiles were pretty awful sometimes. Putin kind of over-polished himself for it, but I think mainly that shows he knew was a little uncomfortable in that environment, with that audience, and being under the spotlight for what will probably be used as primary source material going forward.

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>>130563608
He said something along the lines of:
>"I've said this numerous times, we had nothing to do with this, show me the evidence that Russia hacked the elections, there's no evidence, its just a plot by the democratic party to undermine president Trump, even wikileaks said we had nothing to do with it"

>>130563687
the worst what stone watching a movie with putin, putin was like "wtf is this shit" while forcing himself to go along with it for propaganda

>>130552154
>I do not believe that Putin will really care about confrontation to cultural enrichment or something else that you're suffering right now. He's only doing that to his advantage now.

I've never had any hint that Putin DIDN'T care about these things. Okay, so apparently he "love Russia" (or the idea of Russia) but it's questionable the extent to which he loves or understands the actual Russian people. But if he at least likes the concept of Russia, then he would naturally be against immigration and "enrichment" from non-Russians.

Not disputing that there isn't corruption in Russian society due to him, or to his inaction, but Putin seems very sane in terms of his nationalism and ideals of strength and family.

>>130563631
>I know there is no technical obstacle for you to post it under American flag even if you are from somewhere else but I would like to see it posted from an American flag.
The global platform is drastically changing. The fight will no longer be between nations but between civilizations (generally speaking). Check out "The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order." The West (starting with Western Europe and America) are entering a demographics winter with Russia following closely behind. China will be the common threat to both civilizations. It is the rational and mutually beneficial choice that the West and Russia create new bonds to defend themselves against the East and it could easily escalate into another global war or an arms race if things took a turn for the worse.
>Russian have a lot of smart people but lack the rigor and energy of the We... well of the United States.
It's going to be the West, not just the US. The US currently leads the West because it is the dominant force but that's not to say Europe would not be a major participant. The EU isn't exactly a small economy and if things went the way I think they're bound to go, it wouldn't be a military force to sneeze at. Also, VPN's and proxies don't work with 4chins. Not the one's I've tried, anyhow.

>>130564045
Yeah that was cringey as shit.

>>130564461
I don't know if Stone did all that stuff on purpose or not, but the net result of forcing Putin to not be smooth and getting it into a documentary is a net good for archival evidence.

>>130564228
>>130563421
You guys need to listen to Vlad >>130563912
It's really painful seeing how hard you guys ride Putin's cock because you see him as le savior of le white race.

>>130563564
No there isn't a problem with it, but then again, look at all the nasty things people are saying about Barron, that he's autistic, he should be killed, etc. I wouldn't want my kids exposed to that. Also, look at what happened to JFK's family in the aftermath- systematically eliminated. Any president who shows off their family at this point is either delusional, or one of (((them))).

>>130556847
>Of course life got better, but I guess it's not his credit.

But surely if Putin didn't take power, things would be much worse. The Yeltsin puppet, and all of the Western-controlled opposition to Putin, have been fast-tracks for Western-style decadence.

I mean, you live there so obviously you have more experience and insight than we could ever understand. But do you understand how corrupt the entire West is, on virtually every level? Putin is not a perfect foil or savior by any means, but it seems he has several qualities that make him significantly better than his Western counterparts. Please do not envy our "democracy" and "modernization"; they are inherently imbued with decadence and deceit.

>>130560014
nah, it's blocked here as well
copyright bullshit

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Navalny wants to allow a weapon for the citizens (just like in the US). Deport or much to infringe on the rights of immigrants from Central Asia and to stop doing subsidies to the North Caucasus and to make the visa regime with them. He started his political history from far right side.

I really want to believe in him ;_;

>>130564947
Let me relate a quote to you from when I was a hacker on steroids. Oh actually I don't remember the wording. But basically somebody was frustrated wondering why all the worst paid hosting available for criminal operations was always out of Russia.

Sure he should have just known somebody in the US and picked up a few roots, but it was funny and I think apropos. The US is somewhat different in terms of its decadence.

>>130565524
>all russians getting guns
Sounds dangerous as fuck desu

>>130544130
except that was used to illustrate the DNC and how they have blamed everyone else for their own failures

>>130552154
see m8, the problem here is that Navalny's only good at exposing corruption. There's no evidence that he'll be as good at actually running the show.
The general population doesn't really trust him either, and we already tried the "well we're in shit, let's elect Eltzin cause it can't really get worce" route.

>>130566416
Seems like he's got Russians stirred up about what to do instead of Putin in a more effective way than in the past though. It's probably a positive development overall in terms of effecting cultural shift and discussion, even though I would strongly recommend that at least one more term of Putin is going to be for the best.

>>130565524
>allowing russian retards to own guns
see, Ivan, you only think it's cool cause you've never been mugged by a crocodil addict with a gun yet
Americans are now cursed forever with their gun problem, they can't take their the guns away, but why would you willfully introduce that kind of a problem into our society?

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>>130543187
No, oliver stone is a notorious Putin shill and commie shill. Be literally came back from the interview and them started advocating for removal of missiles from Poland. Any who thinks Putin is le based white savour is fucking retarded. They don't understand exactly how corrupt russian politics is. Putin is the Russian hillary clinton outside of being slightly more right.

>>130543187
Oliver Stone is a self-serving has-been trying desperately to regain some modicum of relevance. He's no better than Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. He is dead to me.

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>>130564947
>I mean, you live there so obviously you have more experience and insight than we could ever understand. But do you understand how corrupt the entire West is, on virtually every level? Putin is not a perfect foil or savior by any means, but it seems he has several qualities that make him significantly better than his Western counterparts. Please do not envy our "democracy" and "modernization"; they are inherently imbued with decadence and deceit.
The western civilisation is in the vanguard of the Humanity, you don't think that your current state is logical stage in the development? You probably would evolve in something different. Hope it will be a complete rejection of leftist ideas and performing the ethnic cleansing, well, or a complete ban cuck shit.

Well... or the diversity is our truly future (not for me personally) and perhaps the Roman script will be repeated.

is putin running in 2018?

>>130566687
Not really m8, only the moscovites know about him, and only the younger generation is naive enough to vote for him, and since our society is rapidly aging and most of the electors are pretty old (and uninformed) he's really not that big of an influencer

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>>130566775
you see now you can shoot back at the krokodil addict.Also after people were allowed to conceal carry in the US crime went down. The problem with Russia is the flimsy fucking self defense laws where if the guy you shot is a friend of the judge or a mobster or something he can influence the judge to put you in jail. Stop being a statist cuck.

>>130566775

>allowing russian retards to own AIDS
see, Ivan, you only think it's cool cause you've never been mugged by a crocodil addict with AIDS yet
Russians are now cursed forever with their AIDS problem, they can't take their AIDS away, but why would you willfully introduce that kind of a problem into our society?

>>130543187
I saw in a few days ago and it's awesome
You should watch it anon, everyone should

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>>130543187
Watched the first episode just now. Pretty good propaganda, meaning truth with some bullshit mixed in inbetween.
>CIA sponsored the Chechens, I have the proofs but WON'T SHOW YOU HAHA
>Medvedev was totally an independent and self-reliant president
>we totally don't have oligarchs filthy rich because they have the connections
>softball questions that never challenged Putin
If you can discern lies from the truth, go ahead and watch it.

>>130566775
Every criminal already have a gun for sure. When you are unable to cope with the issue it is necessary to be weaken or legalized. Criminals will be scared because every person may hold a gun. But you have a point, I admire it.

>>130567083
You think so? I mean I think he's an absolute clown, and I hesitate to doubt that he's being used to some extent by the west to cause cultural subversion, but really the young generation is the one to influence for when the old people die off.

Maybe I'm playing too many dimensions of chess, but I wonder if he might have a similar effect that Bernie did here. Do you think that would be much of an analogy?

>>130567160
wow, getting shot by a narco sure's worth it if you can take the scum down with you!
thanks, but I'll take a bum with a knife anytime over this
Like I said, our situation is completely different from yours since you guys already have an innumerable amount of guns that can be easily accessed by all kinds of criminals anyway, so taking guns aaway from law-abiding citizens is a really bad move
also the thing taht you said about hte self-defense laws is bullshit, the law's iteslf is fine now, the actual problem is general corruption in all areas of life, it's not that you gotta shoot someone so that they can then frame you, they can do that easily anyway.
>statist cuck
read a book

>>130543187
>putin general
putwhatin general?

>>130567767
Just get a bullet proof vest you homo. It's like you don't know how to live in a FREE country.

>>130543187

Putin outed himself as a civic nationalist jew-lover: >>130544130

>>130562520
>Russia and Israel are enemies

And? The USSR was anti-Israel but still served the globalist jewish agenda.

>>130564317

wow, thanks!

I know the EU is relevant but currently I am kind of tired with them and their games. They pushed too hard the thing that is hiding behind that commie flag.

Anyway, I think that interview is a goldmine of information for body language and other subtle things.

Russians can be deadly dangerous too, recall all the history of Europe with Bonaparte, Hitler. You should never underestimate Russia.

If it is time to be open I have to say I do not like Western degeneracy. However, I do not have a knowledge or right to judge it. Maybe it is some transitional thing. I just feel, with all I know and experienced it is not right and it is detrimental.

>>130567719
Eh, he's not really a clown, he's our opposition strongest meme person though.
I don't really think he's like Bernie though, Bernie was supposed to be a true warrior, fighting for his ideology, while Navalny just a guy who allegedly wants to get rid of corruption, modernist the government and deport the immigrants
He has no real political idea behind him
>>130568141
you gotta work harder on your jokes m8

>>130560652
CNN doesn't consider any nobles (or dictators, typically).

Basically it's an excuse to not tell you about Evelyn de Rothschild.

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>>130543187
As previously said it's a 10/10 intro on Putin and even the situation of Russia politically. I expect most /pol/acks will already know or guess a lot of what it said in the 4 hours. Even then there are some good bantz and minor points you don't search inless you are a slavboo so it's interesting even for more alert viewers.
It's in a good format for semi-normies audience. Problem is, the documentary has already been maligned beyond all good faith so the CNN watchers will not touch it in the first place.

>>130545254
I recently saw Navalny's interview with BBC where he said Tsars had more than 100% approval rating in old times, that dudes retarded Ivan.

>>130569786
In those times people believed that the Tsar is almost the messenger of God intended to rule over them. He has a point. Navalny seems to know English very well, interview was in English?

>>130543187
It really opened my eyes on the whole anti-Russia russophobic russia boogeyman narrative here. It's like living in the USSR here in modern day America where all this information is censored and heavily restricted.

>>130569786
>>130570247
All European monarchies were like that.

>>130570247
that would have worked if the question was about the extent of approval, but it actually was about the percentage of population. So he basically said that more people approved the Tsars in Russia than there were citizens.

It was in English, yes.

>>130570957
>that would have worked if the question was about the extent of approval, but it actually was about the percentage of population. So he basically said that more people approved the Tsars in Russia than there were citizens.
May be he just mistake, English is not his native though.

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>>130569116
>CNN watchers won't watch it
>/pol/ knows it all
Nice try mayn goy

I DON'T watch it. Never. 4hours. Even in 2x that's 2 hours of garbage by a lefty

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>>130568248
In what way modern Russia is serving the globalist agenda?
By not allowing faggots to spread their shit to children?
By encouraging the birth rate of Russians?
By being the only super power that is actually bombing ISIS?

>>130563633
>Will not watch anything by a lefty story teller
Why? His questionings of american foreign policy make you uncomfortable?
Do you only listen to people that agree with you?

>>130568268
>reddit spacing
I'm not sure what leads you to believe the EU is a communist state. All governments are inherently socialist. A unified Europe is geopolitically important despite what the average /pol/ LARPer might say. If anything, it needs to be strengthened and have a lot of the strange complexities erased to create stronger cohesion. The new Russia isn't the same as the old one. They're still a viable threat to the West but the world has changed a lot since the time of Napolean or Hitler. People will bitch and moan with cynicism about a newfound alliance with Russia but I think it's the best course of action. China is getting way too powerful and is posing the same kind of geopolitical threat the Soviet Union did during the Cold War. It's going to be important in the upcoming decades to keep them in check especially if the US ever hopes to maintain global hegemony, a window of opportunity that might have already passed us by quite frankly.

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>>130568248
>And? The USSR was anti-Israel but still served the globalist jewish agenda.

>>130543187
Unless he was holding a séance, Stone didn't speak with Putin
Putin has been dead for decades
I see OP has pic related of real Putin
They do this a lot, interspersed with carefully chosen photos of the fake Putins
You all know Putin is long dead
but those who don't need to do a tiny bit of research such as looking at analyses of real Putin's head and those of the fakes
It's not difficult to tell the difference
except for those who don't want to acknowledge the truth
Stone would have known long before that no way would he be speaking to real Putin
so Stone is part of the scam

>>130574734
How big dose i need redbills for that

>>130558080
He said when he was asked to be PM the first thought that entered his mind was how can I hide my children?

>>130576618
Look at the different Hillaries from our elections and ask yourself if they're really all the same person. Ask yourself if you think that Obama from the gym is a body double or not.

Then realize Putin clearly had a collection of body doubles because it would be silly not to. How do we know which Putin he's talking to?

>>130577435
>plastic surgery
He lost some of my respect after that facelift.

>>130579646
I remember that being pushed as a way to try to undermine his credibility and attack his ego back before the internet got as big as it is. Similar to some of the legitimately funny modern-day manlet memes.

What exactly is the truth? Who knows? We're talking about Putin and psych warfare.

>>130556847
>Sometimes I think that Putin from 2000 and nowadays Putin are 2 different people.
Of course they are, they don't even look the same.