Why do young white women see having kids as a burden nowadays?

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>>130515201
because (((divesity))) means being a single mother

>>130515201
Because it is a burden?

>>130515201
Because when they're apart of the workforce it literally is the biggest burden.

>>130515532
>>130515606
Not an argument, or you would not have been born.

>>130515201
Why do young Japanese women?

>>130515532
being a childless old adult is a far worse burden
trust me, I've seen them, my uncle is one and he has tried to kill himself before
My mom also has a cat lady friend and she is dying of alcoholism.
Thats your fate.

>>130515765
>only childless adults get depressed

>>130515201
because (((feminism))) has poisoned their mind

>>130515765
It just really depends on the person.
Some people are just not meant to have kids they don't have the patience and mental fortitude to deal with raising a baby. It's better that way rather than forcing these types of people to have kids and in turn they raise the kids to be absolute fuck ups.

Gavin whatever the fuck beard guy talks about it all the time. Girls are told that working liberates and frees them. Then they retire after they've hit menopause and wonder what the fuck happened.

>>130515982
They have a much higher chance to be though

>>130515201
Because kids ARE a fucking burden.
A hole you throw money into for 18 years and hope to God no legal trouble comes your way in the meantime.
You can't put em to work, you can't fuck em, they're a constant legal liability, they won't shut the fuck up unless you beat them into submission and beating them is nigh impossible because the government is always watching, waiting for a moment to correct your corrections.

>>130515201
Because their nigger lovers run away at the first sign of responsibility.

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kids = less time to party and sleep around

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>>130516313
So work makes you free?

Because they are.

In the past having kids was considered to be practical solution. The more kids you had the better off you were. They would work around the house, older would take care of the younger, and the more kids you had the better your elderly life would be. You could be much more lenient with your kids hit them/ berrate them/ yell at them etc..

Nowadays kids aren't yours. They belong to the state. When you decide to have a kid you're basically taking care of goverment property. You have to be very very careful what you do to the kid or else years of work might be taken away from you on a whim.

The only use for a kid in today's world is to have an heir to your property and from that angle having more than one offspring is actually problematic. They cost fortune and even more importantly - time and attention, which is simply too much to ask today.

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>>130515201
Most girls I know want a kid or two in the future, but they are too insecure about it (what if there isn't enough money, can I raise a child, what if my husband leaves me, etc.).
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>>130515201


women are dumb and underevolved creatures ( literally)

they live almost exclusively parasitic and have minds of 3 yearold ( egofascists, greedy, mentally retarded, ... )

that's yhwy they must not have rights ( inless u want to destroy civilisation.

they were never supposed to decide such matters in the first place (!)

>>130515201
thre's too much fun being white female and somewhat single. The freedom is the best drug they can have.

>>130515201
Hollywoodesque media, music, movies, and television make it seem that way. These women just repeat actions and thoughts they have seen in the media they consume. It get worse if they have issues with their parents - the media will raise them instead of their parents. Same thing happens with men.

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>>130516447

>>130515201
Because men aren't men anymore, we're making women work and working and raising a child simulatenously is hard. It's us who fucked up.

>>130516447
no only while pregnant

>>130515532
This

>>130515649
literal wat

>>130516654
Black pill but true.
I live year round in California and the Mexicans there have a ton of kids, like 4-6, almost like Albanians here.
Their (mexican) kids all get free school and food and everything form the government, so it pays off for them to have kids.
The kids take care of each other , get jobs, and take care of the parents when they are older.

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OP you need to see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj7VgBnQNUc

>>130515532
>>130516187
>>130516654

It's amazing how many virgins there are on 4chan

If you don't own property and have children you don't deserve the right to vote.

Less religion, working full-time jobs, not being able to find secure and stable partners, marriages going awry, there's little reason to actually have children anymore (reduced child mortality and no need for children to take care of you when you age)

Not some political agenda women have. Some of you need to get a fucking grip

>>130515201
mind control.

>>130515201
Women are subconsciously aware of the slut culture and that they spread it (just listen to the modern pop music). But women are also huge conformists so they learn to live with it. So in their frame of reference anyone who makes them want to have a baby will probably dump them after a one night stand.

>>130516950

The problem today is that women are to slutty in their early 20s and men are too immature in their early 30s. My wife had like 4 friends that are amazing looking and have good jobs that want to settle down but can't find anything but man children

>>130517680
>>130516447

Drugs are a natural selection vector.

>>130515201
because their fathers are failures

>>130515201
Because they're afraid they'll turn out to be some pathetic loser that goes on /pol/ every day.

Because it is? Never mind the fact that babies cry 24/7 meaning no sleep no sex no life for the next year at least, WE millennials have much lower economic power then our parents. Exp my father worked for the wage i am earning currently and he managed to buy an apartment and take care of us all on his own. Now even if both me and my gf work 2 jobs we will never be able to afford an apartment.

>>130518145
Great """""argument """""

>>130515201
Because they have been told so.

Can we have a proper thread now?

>>130518145
>If you don't own property and have children you don't deserve the right to vote.
That's a good incentive, but you are too fucking autistic to realize that some of the Men and Women in this current era are too childish and retarded to live a normal life let alone raise one.

>>130518372

>Muh free time
>Muh vidya
>Muh fast food job doesn't pay me 45 dollars an hour

If you can't find a job that pays well it's your own fault not society

>>130518283
>My wife had like 4 friends that are amazing looking and have good jobs that want to settle down but can't find anything but man children
>take woman's word for why she is single

Man, if your wife and her girlfriends think in your stead, why don't you just let them post here instead of you.

>>130515201

Um, because they hate to take selfies? Why else, you fucking bigot.

>>130518425

And you're ok with that people voting?

>>130518511

I don't even know what you're trying to say, but I'm sure it's retarded

>>130515201
Because children are disgusting parasites

>>130518511
>>130518283
>man children
This is most often defined as not having enough money, not being handsome, and not a Chad

>>130515201
I've been in a lot of relationships, every single girl I've been with had wanted children asap.
>protip
>you have to imply you'd think they'd be a good mother.

>>130518490

I work at a bank actually, and have a pretty important role. BUT my salary is the same as my father was when he was a beginner BUT in his time everything was 2 times cheaper. Get it? Same money less economic power.

>>130518548
I'm with you on that one anon. Voting rights should not be given but earned

>>130518158
>Not some political agenda women have
They're too stupid to have an agenda.

It's a kike agenda, aimed at influencing women.

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>>130515201
Oiii vey, goy, white wimmin shouldn't be held down by a little goy. They need to be """"free spirits"""", """""strong independent women"""". And, oiiii, let me tell you it's EXPENSIVE for white women to have a little goy. It's just not """""worth it"""" for the white women to have little goys these days. You don't see """""white entertainers"""" having little goys, right? So you shouldn't either. """"""Black entertainers""""" should be having all the goys, like ((((Kanye)))) and (((Beeyoncee))).

>>130518844
I almost fell for this anon, be careful.

Met a cutie pie, she was all about being traditional as fuck, wanted to get married and have kiddos asap.

2.5 years later, I was like, yeah you pass the crazy bitch test let's do this shit!

She stopped talking to me and ghosted me for like a week or two, and finally said 'I'm not happy anon, you work all the time, we never have fun. I don't want that perfect family life, I want to have fun in my 20s"

She was literally homeless, living in her car with an abusive guy within 3 months.

Guess who she called when it got even worse?

I did not take her back.

I feel bad, but I also don't.

>>130515532
>literally your entire purpose as an animal on earth
>burden

This is why women's unhappiness just keeps increasing, they believe these ridiculous lies that they should be "strong independent womyn who don't need no child"

It is easy to live a meaningfull life without kids now.

>>130516383
t. sociopath

>>130518719

Lol no, and attitudes like that are the exact problem. Most women don't want or care if a man is Rich, but they do want to see motivation and initiative. Which almost none of you have.

Yes yes goy you need more children! Who will pay taxes... i mean give you that glass of water when you're older? Don't forget about your legacy

>>130515765
Or I can take care of my dogs and enjoy the company of my wife (male here) without having to waste tens of thousands and sacrifice all my dreams for a shithead I don't want.
Fuck that. I'm going to keep traveling and buying shit I'm want for me, not a fucking kid. Take the redpill of childless family.

>>130519221
My sweet naive boy

Try living in a city full of rich people, suddenly motivation and initiative means absolutely nothing when every has a Tesla and you have a Camry

That shit only works in the sticks because they don't have anything else to hope for but hope alone.

>>130518719
That's what I was getting at.

Personal coolstory. My gf dumped me over a year ago. A few weeks ago I log onto my FB and see her status update to the effect that "I need some girl time, not telling much on FB but lying and cheating was involved". I wanted to laugh and puke at the comments about how it's unfair to her and how she doesn't deserve this. Not one of these fucking faggot friends, and even her fucking faggot mom, said that she should've stuck with her ex, i.e. me, who they know treated her well. I'm sure in all their minds poor girl just can't find Mr. Right. I unfriended her shortly after that.

>>130516383
>THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS

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>>130519221
>Most women don't want or care if a man is Rich

>>130519165
Please fucking tell me how.
I need to know.

>>130515201
>Why do young white women see having kids as a burden nowadays?
Because let's be honest here. That's exactly what they are.
I can say this because I am a father myself.
Once you have kids your "life" is essentially over. You don't get to have fun anymore unless the child allows it.

Most people nowadays have a less than wholesome sense on how to have fun. When you take the drugs, booze, parties, and all that other "fun" stuff away most people are completely lost, and go into a serious depression.

I completely understand why some one wouldn't want to have kids. It's actually kind of a shit deal until they become teenagers, and start being useful around the house.
Even then it's pulling teeth to get them to do something productive.

>>130518145
Get back in your time machine and go back to 1792.
"Own land" fucking shit don't you have corn to shuck?

>>130515201
Because they have been brainwashed by (((feminism))) into thinking that men have it much better than women and so they have adopted an increasingly more traditional "masculine" role in society (have a career, make money).

What they didn't realize when they began this campaign is that the only reason that was ever the "masculine" role was because someone had to provide for CHILDREN; they didn't realize that men don't necessarily have careers because they want to but because they HAVE to... the woman of course realizes that this more masculine role sucks ass because she has to set aside everything for her career and work all the time but the cognitive dissonance is so strong that she keeps telling herself that it is still much better than fulfilling her traditional gender role. Of course since she has no time to do anything how could she have time to raise children?? That would be a terrible burden. Couple the stress of a full time career with the fact that it is now infinitely harder (impossible unless she gives it all up) to fulfill her innate desire to bear children has left her and the overwhelming majority of women more depressed than they have ever been historically.

>>130518145
Keep crynig bitch nigga

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>>130515447
Are you an Israeli jew or muslim? :^)

>>130519691
Wrong pic... whatever.

>>130518145
you don't deserve the right to vote because you fell for the jewish kid ruse

>>130518872
Of course he doesn't fucking get it this is /pol/ everyone here is so divorced from reality they think Ancap works and White Nationalism is possible.

are you retarded OP? because they are obiously seen as a burden for women's current degenerate lifestyle.
current mainstream individualism ideology dictates to pursuit a pleasure in life.

>>130517101
T. Frustrated Virgin

Women want to have kids just with alpha males not with you.

Women also work and don't spend all their lives whining on 4chan

What makes you so much more intelligent than them?

>>130519326
>>130519422

t. Single virgins

I am both married and have a child on the way. My wife grew up wealthy, I did not. I don't have an amazing job but I am quickly working my way up at this job.

But sure, you guys keep running your mgtow propaganda and then secretly run to /r9k/ and complain that you never get laid

>>130515201
Eugenics + pysOps

>>130519652
>ps
Ever notice how depression among women seems to be more of a Western phenomenon than anything else? Despite the fact that they are the most "free" women in the world? Look at Muslim women, Asian women. Most of them fulfill traditional female gender roles and they are happy.

Meanwhile Becky from Boston is complaining to Stacy at the bar on Friday night about how her job is hard and men are all dogs who won't commit to her.

>>130519604

Lol wealth envy

>>130519124
Last time I checked we weren't huddled around a campfire worried about the Hairy Forehead tribe taking our nut and berries stash and the sabretooth tigers sleeping 60 feet away.
There are over 7 BILLION humans. Procreation is a waste of time.

>>130520106
I get laid just fine

You're making excuses and avoiding reality

>>130518145
>If you don't have a stake in the current and future prosperity of nation, you should not have the right to direct it's course.
Well said

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>>130519604
>>130519668
>>130519827

Ya'll are fucking stupid.

>>130520161
T. Virgin who is trying to make himself better about being a failed organism

>>130520231
>Ya'll are fucking stupid.
that's one of the best arguments i've ever seen on pol

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>>130520161
>Procreation is a waste of time.

Yeah who cares about the future of the human race.

>>130515201
because no one can afford shit related to having a family

/pol/'s philosophy:

>The white race is under attack and white genocide is under way
>Having white children is stupid

This is why you're all so pathetic

>>130520357

You are not everyone, poor faggot

>>130520152
I don't care how rich you are farm boy, Never having been outside the county border lest the Jefferson kids steal some of your potato crop is not my idea of a good life.

>>130520394
>having children is stupid
fixed that for you m8

If women learn to give good heads to their man. They dont have to worry if the father going to leave or not. Ofc the father leaves when the bj is bad as shit.

>>130520231
You work a farm.
You sell the food.
Calm down Cletus, you are not a great American hero.

>>130520303
7.
BILLION
PEOPLE.
MASSIVE NET GAIN EVERY DAY.

>>130520449

Lol you understand that in America we have tons of land for sale in suburbs as well as rural area?

Don't be mad whatever country you're from is a shit hole.

because not everyone wants to have kids or deal with everything that comes with it.
If i want kids it will be later in my life not when I'm in 20-30 range hell most women already have kids at that age lmao.

>>130520739
>>130520595
>>130520449

I think this guy is literally Jewish.

>>130520739
With more than 5 billion of them being niggers.

>>130520785

We already know you're a pathetic waste, small Germany

>>130520759
My original point stands
Owning land means nothing, this is not the middle ages, you are not a noble, your land is not your fief. Grow up.

>>130520357
Unless you take loads and loads of loans or buy on credit at various interest rates.

Follow the money...

>>130518283
No one wants used up 30 year old goods.

>>130520866
Don't Care.

>>130519358
lol and a roastie is born, unwilling to see her current lot is the result of HER choices.

>>130520893
It's a small paradise, come in if you like!

>>130520394
/pol/ is just a roleplay. a bunch of degenerates gathered to make jokes about degeneracy. nobody will really believe in what they wrote.
this is just a form of self-entertainment.

>>130521006

>Owning land means nothing

Ok bud, maybe you'll understand when you get through your teen angst phase

>>130521073
You should probably get off the internet then, so you get used to your future world. Cut off the power to your house. Knock down a wall. Fill a room with trash. Start pissing/shitting out your back door. Get a collection of tires and gasoline for the next time the neighbors accuse someone of witchcraft. Better fill a prescription for an AIDS cocktail now while hospitals still exist

>>130515201
schools tell them they need a career
parents tell them they want them to be independent
media tells them that kids are
companies tell them they want their money
kids cost money

They never grew up and see kids as annoying and an inconvenience. These people are wickedly selfish.

>>130521006
>owning land means nothing
Land is the only thing that can ever retain it's value following an economic collapse you fucking mongoloid.

>>130520106
Sick anecdote bro. I guess your personal experiences are like the rule now?
Fucking idiot.

>>130521061

I can understand that if you're on your 20s, but a single guy in his 30s who also had commitment issues in his 20s needs to get over it.

Before you throw an autism fit, I got married at 25 and my wife was 24.

>>130515201
It's more of s symptom than the actual disease that is killing civilization. Most young adults today are far too childish, immature, and just not ready to properly raise children anyway so at least they won't pass on their shitty habits as taught by (((them))). Fiscally irresponsible, immoral, and without clearly established principles, they can only spawn more degenerates. The more conservative women still have children as always, the problem is simply that they can't compete with shitskins. Basically we're going to need tighter borders and less shitskin welfare to really take our future back as the degenerate generation dies off alone.

But yeah a lot of these overgrown children are just lost causes for not having kids. Damaged goods, and you can thank (((them))) for corrupting and crippling a whole generation of lost honest folks.

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>>130521329
>not having kids is wickedly selfish

wew boy

>>130521203
You so desperately wish that to be true don't you commie?

>>130515201
1. Ruins their bikini body. They get some saggy stomach and they've been trying since they were teenagers to keep that shit tight.

That's about it. They'll have kids but they hate it. They all wear mum swimmers that cover their stomach after they have kids. I think when they're done they get plastic surgery to try and make it look as 'before' as possible.

>>130521023

Or you have a decent job and not be a waste of space.

You can easily afford children at a combined wages of 80k. And if you can't find a job making 40k you don't deserve to have children or own anything worthwhile

>>130515201
They are a burden. Thing is, having responsibility is a healthy thing that they've learned to shun through the media.

>>130521474
only newfags truly believe and do what pol says
just look at those pathetic kekistan fags

>>130521361

Personal experiences matter when you're talking about experiences that are personal you fucking moron

>>130520595
Poor southern whites: the only demographic it is universally accepted to be racist and bigoted against.

Go fuck yourself, at least when the shit hits the fan we'll have the means and the know how to protect ourselves and our families, you pussy whipped city faggot. Meanwhile you'll be more clueless than a toddler in a titty bar.

>>130521355
>Ignores the entire spectrum of material assets.
>Ignores how property prices rise and fall with market bears and bulls.

>>130521568
>I DONT WANT TO ADULT TODAY

Not that I can talk, I can improve areas of my life. I'd never say that in public though, and I know many women who often do.

>>130521513
>40k

That's literally low income in my city, as in, you're expected to live in subsidized government housing you fuck

The real world is hard and stacked against us.

The sticks are where we should go, but the jobs aren't there.

We're all fucked.

>>130519293
Hahahahahaha!
The product of 3.5 BILLION years of continuous reproduction and you openly choose not to have kids
Why not just piss on your grandparents' graves? It would be faster

>>130521374
And now you are 26 and at 27 you'll divorce, because your wife thinks she's better off on her own (actually because she finds a better dick).

>Most people nowadays have a less than wholesome sense on how to have fun. When you take the drugs, booze, parties, and all that other "fun" stuff away most people are completely lost, and go into a serious depression.

The real problem here is what you list as what many people think of as "fun", all that stuff is actually shallow as fuck and a waste of both time and money.

My parents brought me and my brothers with them for everything "fun" they did, ski trips, vacations, camping, hiking, heck my dad even made a special backpack to carry me on when they went hiking before I was old enough to walk by myself.

He did give up his semi-proffesional racing career though but that had more to do with it becoming to expensive of a sport to be competitive in as a private person without sponsors.

>>130521670

>Ignores that property rates fall but ALWAYS recover quickly.
>Ignores that investing in property is a 20+ year commitment and small market fluctuations matter very little in the long run


Nice try poor faggot

>>130521670
>material assets
Wow, you have gold. Great. Who's going to buy it? What are they going to buy it with? Useless bits of paper that are worthless?

What about land? What can you do with it? Raise crops, keep livestock. What does this provide? Food. Everyone needs it. Wool. You can sell timber. If you have water you can run a mill. People need a place to live. You can sell plots of land. For what you'll ask of course. For labour.

There is a reason LAND is and always has been the hottest commodity. That is why the "wealthy" in feudal times were all land owners. That is why only land owners were allowed to vote -- to maintain their monopoly.

Holy fucking shit. Kill yourself.

>>130521715

If 40k is low income in your city (it's not because you're lying) then move out of that city for a better

>B...but I g...grew up here and my m...mommy lives here

Grow up

>>130521717
>Implying they would care
End your life please. I have 2 siblings to carry on the line anyway, I don't need to.

>>130515201
Because it is when you need dual incomes to survive in this capitalist hell

>>130519293
What a miserable, pathetic existence.
You're a sick individual. Not seeing the beauty and enjoyment in raising another human being, your own off spring, makes you sick, genetic waste.

Bet you're an American, and probably some libertarian kiddy.

>>130521594
Those are newfag redditors.
They don't count.
You aren't actually a part of this place until you've been here for a few years. Even then you shouldn't post because you're probably still retarded.
There's a lot of satire on here, but a very large portion of it is also sincere.

It's like back in the day on /b/ people would constantly post the artistic works of fiction disclaimer. Yeah, because there weren't actually REAL pedophiles, and creepers on there every fucking day.

>>130521602
They actually don't in this instance. You tried to refute a very well known claim that woman actually do really care if men are rich. Which they do. The vast majority of them do. You're a deluded retard if you think your personal little anecdote changes that in anyway shape, or form.

You can stop posting now. You're obviously new because nobody has explained to you that anecdotal evidence doesn't hold much weight.

>>130515201
But they do.
Stop reading dumb shit on /pol/ and on the internet in general.
Most women want kids.

>>130521965
and land IS a material asset by the way

Would you rather be in a home where foreigners treat you like shit and would sooner rob you, or have your children put you in a home where foreigners treat you like shit and would sooner rob you. From an admittedly selfish point of view, you're stuck between a rock and a hard place whether you have children or not. Our society doesn't respect its elders. Maybe the civilization in Logan's Run is right, just not in such an extreme form. Retirement age is the right time to jump into the pit of swirling death instead of 21.

>>130515649
Wrong.
20 years ago single incomes could support a family. Now it's not the case. Sad!

>>130520595
The agricultural community is the staple of society and government you fucking cretin. Why do you think Jewish communists attacked farmers? Working the land is power

>>130521967
>New numbers show households making $72,000 in King and Snohomish counties are considered ‘low income.'

Seattle is a bitch

>>130522162

>A very well known claim

/pol/ is not a reliable sample group

>>130521632
When the shit hits the fan (if it ever does) the people from the cities will raid your land, kill you, rape your wife and kids, and use your crops to fuel further raids on all the neighboring farms
Oh and
>Toddler in a titty bar if you don't want people to be "bigoted" against you, don'tbe a living charicature.
>Rebel flag slapped on literally everything
>Expressions that scream mentally handicapped good ol' boy accent
>Pretending when the world ends you'll last more than a month

>>130515201
>making this thread during /r9k/ hours
You're never going to get conversation going beyond "reeeeeeeeee Chad and normies"

Children get in the way of a career.

>>130515649

You're implying that any of us being born isn't a burden on society itself.

>>130521717
>The product of 3.5 BILLION years of continuous reproduction and you openly choose not to have kids
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
>Why not just piss on your grandparents' graves?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

>>130521980
There's the squirming
>m...my siblings...
Aren't YOU. If you're going to just be a hedonist drain please just kill yourself now.

>>130522461
>this is what city folk actually believe
wew

>>130515201
>Why do young white women see having kids as a burden nowadays?
this thread AGAIN?
kids are a burden, retard

>>130522170
Can't deny that way too many of them don't because they've been indoctrinated by the (((media))). Don't forget that women are even more stupid than you can conceive when it comes to making life choices : they'll rely on whatever fucktart sitcom or underlying message that they get on the news without even understanding they're being manipulated into sterility and loneliness. It's sad, and truly pathetic.

>>130522252
No, it's a job, just as admirable as any other job. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's a staple of society. Oldest profession is prostitution, why don't you jerk those nice men and women off for a bit? After a considerable fee ofc.

>>130522661
>can't grow crops
>can't feed people
>can't have an organized society
kill yourself

>ITT: What are population dynamics

Let me help you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsBT5EQt348

>>130515201
Marriying is the real burden

Because they are told to by the dominamt "male" figure in their life: the media

>>130522593
Squirming? Ok look manchild, I know the only thing you think you'll ever accomplish is blowing a load in a 4/10 and spending 18 years slaving after a worthless cretin who will in all likelihood grow up to hate you, but some of us want to do more than live in a suburb forever, drink, tolerate an obnoxious little fuck who screams when he doesn't get what he wants and spb because your life failed.

>>130522808
Don't tell me you Germans fear overpopulation lol.

>>130522808
>what is carrying capacity and why don't humans have it?

>>130522897
You seem to have real daddy issues.

>>130522776
I never said it wasn't important I just said it doesn't make you the antithesis of all that is good in humanity because your grwndpappy left you 40 acres in Bumfuck Nowhere Kansas

>>130515201
white men see it as a burden too.

when cost of living is too high (due to productivity being shipped offshore), people find it hard to keep up with the jones's or the lifestyles portrayed in their childhood movies. children are one of the expenses that they discard.

until the west regains its wealth you'll be seeing this from both sides.

REMINDER TO ALL YA'LL ROUND HERE

White children are the most sacred thing you can produce in your life. A single healthy kid surpasses anything you'll ever produce in life, whether it's your crappy artisanal pseudo-arty shit or your pathetic and cliché dream of succeeding at whatever career path you think is worth your energy. That is, if you're childless by the age of 40, you're a fucking pet kike.

If you don't get this, you're (((degenerate scum))).

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>>130515447
WE WUZ KAAANGZ

>>130523107
No I just fucking despise children.

>>130515649
I was a burden to my parents, though, and now I'm a burden to the tax payers.

>>130522808
>kurzgesagt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOnXh3NN9w

>>130522991
If they fear overpopulation why are they importing humanoid cattle?

Also why aren't we cutting humanitarian aid in Africa. I'm sure that will solve any overpopulation.

>>130515447
Back in the oven kike

>>130523183
>Degenerate
>Don't Tread On Me Flag
HEY POT
YEA KETTLE?
YOU'RE FUCKING BLACK LOSER

>>130523164
But it IS the foundation of modern, civilized society and government. We couldn't have settlements if we hadn't learned how to farm -- we would have remained nomadic bush-dwellling hunter-gatherers.

>>130521203
Shut up communist

>>130523238
That's because you despise yourself for being a bad son.

>>130523356
And yet, Gadsden > United Nations BY FAR, KIKE

>>130519293
Wow, that sounds really pathetic. Keep thinking you're redpilled, kid.

The best case scenario for getting old is you outlive people in around your generation.

Even if you have kids they might not care enough about you to check in on you at the old folks home regularly.

If you have children at least there's a better chance you won't have to sit in your dirty diapers for a week because no one cares about you

>>130523201
WE WUZ BALLSACK CLEANERZ N SHEEEET

I simply do not like dealing with children. Someone like that has no business being a parent.

>>130515201

I have 4 kids.

My wife wants a fifth, and I'm considering it.

Honestly: Children are a barrier for entry in life. Either you continue on, or you fail.

>>130516187
Are czech women ok about having kids early?

>>130523164
>>130523374
also if you're the "antithesis of all that is good in humanity" then you are evil, by definition. You don't even know what you're talking about. Don't use words that you don't understand.

>>130523374
Yea it is, and in 10 years robots will do it 10x faster and better than any human ever did and farming will be gone forever.

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>>130515201
I would seriously consider adoption. I mean shit you get to choose your kid and skip past all the bullshit

>>130520106
>>130520005
Submissive dont want things beyond establishing a system that pleasures them as much as possible

In general, women are the submissive gender.

Submissives should have a dominant to lead or else you get betas like Pedosta abusing their power to the extreme

>>130518158
>not some political agenda women have
Most of the conditions deleterious to child rearing that you listed came about as a result of feminism

>>130523442

Lol the nursing home staff is paid to change your diapers. Your kids are likely to live thousands of miles away for work and will rarely visit.

>>130523552
and what about a global economic or natural catastrophe that wipes out those magical farmbots in your imaginary utopia?

>>130523441
Alright kid, we'll see who's happier in 40 years. Assuming you actually manage to trick some retard woman into fucking you.

>>130515201
because of certain (((lies)))

>>130515201
My theory is a bunch of pissed off feminazis who have no experience as a mother with children poisoning young womens minds about what motherhood is and making it seem toxic.

>>130523729
>doesn't understand the simplest conceptions of human civilization
>incorrectly uses big words he doesn't understand
>thinks robots will do everything in the future, as soon as 10 years from now
>calls people "kid"
confirmed born after 2000

>>130523620
Hahaha well memed.
You don't get a nurse dog. You get a caretaker who barely passed community college. Unless you're spending 60k a year on your care you're not getting much.

By the time you have dementia and can't function you won't have anybody to represent you. You're just an atm.

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>>130515201
For the majority of people in the modern western world, having kids makes you unhappier on the overall. There have been numerous, numerous studies over the years backing this up, about how people’s happiness levels decrease when they start having babies, then they increase again once the last kid finally moves out of the house.

Virtually NO PARENT will EVER openly admit that having kids made them less happy, because they incorrectly believe that’s the same as admitting you don’t love your children. Having your life less happy because you have kids does NOT mean you love your kids ANY less. One has nothing to do with the other.

No one realizes the financial and emotional toll and insane time commitment it takes to have kids until they actually have some and it’s too late to put them back in the womb. Even with things like marriage, a lot of not-yet-married people realize that being married will kinda suck. But with childless people, they think having kids is a consistently wonderful thing. People have no idea what they’re getting into.

When a person goes from childless to parent, average happiness goes down, and stays down, until 20 years later when the kid grows up and moves out of the house. The reason people say they’re “so happy” being a parent is because when they’re saying this, they’re thinking about the isolated moments of joy that occur when you have kids, particularly when they’re very little and still cute. Yes, that little two-year old bastard has been keeping you up for the last four days, creating constant messes you have to clean up, and stressing the fuck out of you, but then one day in the kitchen he looks up at you with his big brown eyes and his fat little face with ice cream all over his mouth, looks you right in the eye, and says in his cute little voice, “I wub bu daddy.” Then you melt, and your happiness goes to 10 for about three minutes before it plunges back to it’s usual parenting 4.

>>130522808
It's not white Europans and Americans that need to be culled though cuck-sama.

I dont know Man, i really enjoy the time i Share with my father, and i want to do the same with my kids. Am i the only one who likes his Old Man here?

>>130515201
If it was really a burden then you wouldn't have so many fucking mixed white kids in this country and in Europe.

>>130522897
Holy shit you are mad
I better stop reminding you of your pathetic existence or Texas may charge me for Inv Manslaughter

>>130524289
Also this. Im wondering if all the people ITT who are against children arent jaded mGtows

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Daily reminder.

>>130522588
The first one isn't argument ad populum you retard, you are missing the point
The 2ND is moot because existential things are emotional once you get over being an edgy teen

>>130523552
>20 posts by this ID
Stop posting now, you've made it perfectly clear that you're some dumb clueless teenager that has been reading too much about technology and technocracy recently.

>>130518490
Hey, whats your address so I can blow your fucking head off you kike?

Literally a fucking shill.

>>130524082

This. Sort of.

Basically with child support and such it's a huge financial liability.

But frankly, I just want to cream in some chick and force my child into her, while she cries out for "her babies".

Also for da whiterace.

>>130524006
You're pathetic. Modernization is taking over car factories and processing plants!for thousands of products already, yet you remain ignorant to it, and think humans will still be wasting their time doing grunt labor in 10 years.
How hard would it be to program a driving mechanism into a harvester? Hell think of EVERYTHING done on farms, EVERY SINGLE JOB. It could all easily, more effectively and cheaply be done by robotic labor.
Get into the 21st century and stop desperately attempting character assassination you waste of fucking space.

How many white women exist in the world today?

>>130524251
I don't have any statistics to back it up but I think most 4chan useser and /pol/ in particular has bad relationships with people in general including their parents.
Im a fucking normie though so I always had a good relationship with my parents.

>>130524614
Ignorance of reality doesn't make it go away, sorry. :(

>>130524490
I'm guessing that's the case, a bunch of faggots who rather soul search and spend countless dollars on lost meaning only to end up dying alone without any children of their own right beside them.

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isn't the thread about young white women?

Worsening economic security and worker protections are making carrying a child to term a liability for women.

The libertarian right is the embodiment of the death of the white race.

>>130515201
Because feminism teches them any form of responsibility is oppression. All feminisim does is infantilize women.

>>130515201
They're trash

>>130524082
>For the majority of people in the modern western world, having kids makes you unhappier on the overall. There have been numerous, numerous studies over the years backing this up, about how people’s happiness levels decrease when they start having babies, then they increase again once the last kid finally moves out of the house.
Wrong.
Having children is one of the most satisfying things in the world. It's difficult, but when you're on your death bed, that will nearly always be everyone's proudest and most satisfying life experience. The number one regret for people on their death beds is not having children or not spending enough time with them.

>>130524082
>No one realizes the financial and emotional toll and insane time commitment it takes to have kids until they actually have some and it’s too late to put them back in the womb. Even with things like marriage, a lot of not-yet-married people realize that being married will kinda suck. But with childless people, they think having kids is a consistently wonderful thing. People have no idea what they’re getting into.
Wrong again.
Married people are the happiest in every society.
They also live longer, healthier lives.
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/the-health-advantages-of-marriage-2016113010667

>>130524082

What a load of bullshit.

>>130524832
You've only just found out that your dick can release stuff and give you an orgasm a few years ago kiddy, you have barely experienced reality. Shut up. You're dumb and don't have a clue about anything.

>>130515201
Because the current (((system))) tells them that it's better to have a successful career and to work their asses off for the sake of their country's economy.

Everything in this world is becoming so stressful and frantic that people can't help but focus on their own success and well being.

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>>130524683

>>130524970
20 years of suffering is not worth 20 minutes of happiness till you flatline.

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>>130525060
Hey man if I can dump my load in some chick and it helps the white race I'M ALL FUCKING FOR IT

>>130525142
You're an idiot.
Your post doesn't deserve a proper response since it's fallacious garbage.

>>130515649
And if I hadn't been born I wouldn't be arguing with autists on a Mongolian goat herding collective.

>>130515765
Have you ever visited nursing homes? They're full of old people whose kids have dumped them there and never visit them.

If you really wanted kids all your life and never got any of course you're gonna be a depressed cunt. On the other hand if you never wanted kids and do get them you're gonna become a depressed cunt also.

Few generations ago you had kids to survive if you weren't really rich. You don't need kids to survive over the age of 35 anymore. In fact having kids drastically drains your finances if you're middle class.

>>130525060
>IF I I CALL HIM A KID ENOUGH I WIN THE ARGUMENT HURR HURR
Just give up now. This is depressingly pathetic.

>>130525139
>Wait wait wait... The world like... Changes? Holy shit...

>>130515201
Education, they don't need a man who will get them pregnant or choose to be in childfree relationships. I would not want to be pregnant unless I had a rich and attractive husband like Beyoncé.

>>130524598
>The first one isn't argument ad populum you retard, you are missing the point
you literally said that everyone before him had kids and implied that he made a "bad" decision because he doesn't want to have kids
that's
>Everyone's doing it; therefore, it must be good.
or it's the same appeal to emotion, eitherway this is not a good argument

>once you get over being an edgy teen
if you're implying here that being a teen makes arguments invalid then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
also being this hostile won't help with convincing people

>>130525445
automation is not as easy as you think it is pls kys

>>130525304
Modern society lets every snowflake think their opinion matters, it doesn't. In a proper society, only married adults, with their own home, financial security, and children would have a say so about how society should be organized.

>>130515649
>Implying the dissapearance of the human race is a bad thing.

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women are dumb and underevolved creatures ( literally)

they live almost exclusively parasitic and have minds of 3 yearold ( egofascists, greedy, mentally retarded, ... )


THEY were never supposed to decide such matters ( ar anything) in the first place anyway (!). Men decide that.

giving women rights and power over civilisation
is like giving toddler power over the weel of a car while driving on the highway.
it's a stupid idea and will 100% end in a total crash.

>>130525236
You clearly either don't remember your childhood, never had kids, or just think they look cute.
Children are Horrible, whiney, screaming, tantrum throwing, mess making, lying little fucks, who leech off of you for at least 18 years, and then leave you with no money, no happiness, and thousands in debt, unless you're incredibly wealthy and hire someone to raise them for you.

>>130524970
>The number one regret for people on their death beds is not having children or not spending enough time with them

WRONG

1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
2. I wish I didn’t work so hard.
3. I wish I’d had the courage to express my feelings.
4. I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.
5. I wish that I had let myself be happier.

http://realfarmacy.com/nurse-reveals-top-5-regrets-people-make-on-their-deathbed/

>>130525765

u sound like a woman.
poor, weak, pathatic, whiny .. and greedy ( even envying your own children((something so sick, how women can be ))

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>>130525617

amen

now post young white women

>>130515201
>Why do young white women see having kids as a burden nowadays?
>it's only the womens fault

Mgtow faggot

>>130516652
This arbeit is machen me frei desu senpai

>>130525944
You sound like a retard.

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>>130525958

>>130525536
Yea it really fucking is, it already is happening everywhere, bottling sodas, assembling vehicles, creating parts for quite literally everything, cleaning floors, even driving cars. Again, reality, get with it.

>>130525793
>1. I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
and this thread is trying to make more people with this regret

>>130525596
That's not the way things work anymore, sorry.

>>130520739
Most humans are non-white i.e. barely human.
Whites need to keep their number up for everyone's sake.

>>130525944
Learn to speak Ancap.

>>130526005

ok obviously i hit the sweep spot. got ya, femscum. so typical.

>>130526158
No credible evidence to support whites being better than anyone else, nice meme tho.

>>130515201
Because they are taught that way and eventually will cry went they'll get hold being so alone. It actually is a burden, but that's the only meaning of life.

>>130526174
>typical women hate kids
have you ever left your house?

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>>130526243
Yeah, you're right.
White people haven't done anything to prove their worth.
I almost got away with spreading pro-white propaganda, but you caught me.
Oh well, it was worth a try.

>>130525525
>you literally said that everyone before him had kids and implied that he made a "bad" decision because he doesn't want to have kids
>that's

>you literally said that everyone before him had kids and implied that he made a "bad" decision because he doesn't want to have kids
that's

Comparing biological imperative to the beliefs of millions. Kill yourself you fucking idiot. Ad populum is when there is a collective belief in something. Breeding is not a belief by millions is the point of life...... WOW...

Guis ust bkuase al ur insecstors hd keds dusnt mean u kneed too. Dats fallasy.

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>>130526539
You know that was a parody article written by someone from /pol/, right? You don't think it's real, do you?

>>130516447
You mean less=no

>>130526539
I don't think we need to get rid of them I personally just don't give a fuck how pale someone is.

>>130526813
I know it's a parody, I just posted it for its meme value desu senpai

>>130526918
yeah, being white is only about skin colour. it's funny to think anyone cares about race since it's nothing but superficial characteristics

she dont deserve kids man

>>130518145
They can't even by a beer, so they're trolling on 4chan.

>>130526746
>Breeding is not a belief
that's true
but the belief that the point of life is to breed is... a belief
do whatever you want, just don't force everyone to do it too

yey

>>130526918
How enlightened. You do understand there are differences in intelligence between the races?

>>

>>130525765
Is this how you acted as a child? I understand why your parents would hate you.

>>130515201
Main question is money. Kids are not allowed to work until they're 14-15 and are nothing but a burden on family budget.
When they have kids - they can't work and earn money. They're out of workforce for years and it's hard to go back.
And finally most men don't make as much nowadays and barely can support a family.

>>130526984
Yea that's precisely what it is.

>>130527304
There is no sufficient evidence to support that, and even if it were true, it would prove Asians are the master race, not us.

>>130527475
That's how all children act unless you beat the fuck out of them which is now illegal, so yeah, raising children is a waste of both time and money.

>>130524082

Fuck off it was never about 'happiness'. It's about self sacrifice to make the world a better place. The West will rise again

>>130515532
This is actually true. Women can not have both a full-time job and have a child. For all of history, their main job was having a children, and a few hours of taking care of other stuff. Now they have to dress up for work, commute, go to work, go to store, commute back, prepare food. Do chores. That's ~10 hours of work, without even taking children into account. Most female feel absolutely overwhelmed by the thought of having children because of that.

The solution is to restrict women workplace work hours to 3-5h at most. That way they have time for children too.

>>130527304
>White people mostly live in first world countries with good education, food and jobs
>Colored people mostly live in third world shitholes with poor to average education, shit jobs and shit food
>Muh intelligence between the races

Because the are.

>>130528461
Or stop having children because we have enough fucking humans and we're running out of clean air and food for them all.

>>130528124
Search up something called the IQ gap. Or simply use your intuition. Do you truly believe blacks are, on average, as smart as whites? Are australian aboligrianls as smart as the Japanese?

>>130528205
Not true. Honestly, is that how you and your siblings acted? Did your father slap you around a bit?

>>130528501
You know /pol/ is going downhill when there is denial of race realism.

>>130520739
Yeah and how many people die per day? How bout you add yourself to that statistic nigger.

>>130515201
It's a burden to have children in their productive prime (16-22) because our modern society wants whites to work like dogs, have no kids and give welfare to the nigs spitting out niglets. It's been this way since the 90s

>>130528234
Cool larping bro

Children were once necessary assets for farm hands and such, now children are liabilities of want.

>have kids, change their nappies three times a day and each time wipe mustard shit out of their tiny vaginas so they won't get an infection, that will give you fulfillment!

/pol/ is so fucking stupid it hurts

>>130515201
because the media told them so.

I guess I lucked out then, shitskin with a gorgeous aryan fiance who is planning to have a kid with me, being r1b myself and slightly "tanned", our kids will become white regardless of my color, she is too white and im not black or tanned enough.

the answer to your question is however this, you guys are just trying to get the wrong girls pregnant, obviously if they are in their mid 20's, to even maybe late 20's they will be weary of having kids, but after that it should be easy.

and also because a lot of you faggots don't come out of your comfort zone for even 1 minute, so how the hell will you even know if a girl wants to have a kid, you are too busy being bluepilled with trinkets and silly things that don't really matter.

If my lame former neet as can get a gorgeous aryan, why cant /pol/?

>>130533448
>Three
My sweet summer child...

>>130515201
Boomer mothers rebelled against responsibility, failing to teach their daughters how to be women.

>>130535093
Reddit GoT meme get the fuck out
>>130533448
lol normally I don't side with some stupid fucking Nazi over a Libertarian but this one has it right

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>>130524082
tip for young men: marry a woman that sleeps very soundly. my wife can sleep through a tornado.

my kid started sleeping 12 hours a night at 3 months old. there's a lot less stress when everyone is sleeping well.

>>130522864
Bingo. It is not in a man's interest to join into a union so one sided as modern marriage. Real men don't want an equal, they want an assistant who listens to them and does what he says.

Women are given the leadership role automatically. If the man takes it, he had better be rich or he is an abuser.

Because kids are a burden.

Glad I could help.

>>130515201

Because it is a burden. the problem is they're taught to indulge only in themselves and that they are the centre of the universe and their fun and happiness is the only thing that matters. This leads to a nihilistic lifestyle which provides absolutely fuck all for future generations, including their lives.

>>130537993

*nihilistic and hedonistic

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>>130519293
Only thing you leave behind in this world as a legacy is your children. Being a childless dog fucker is not one to be proud of.

>>130515201
Some of them are too good for it. Most of them just think they're too good for it, and aren't good for anything else.

>>130538504
Yet you will still be forgotten in about 2 generations when your grandkids don't give two shits about you. Good going.

>>130515201
Because society has made it look just about impossible for them to be happy doing so.

Because especially if you are a white woman, you are expected to work while you are pregnant/have kids.

Anything else and they will see you as a privileged spoiled house wife and they hate you.

On top of this feeding kids has become far more complicated than it used to be. Now a days kids get bullied because they're mom made them a sandwich out of white bread. Only niggers are aloud to eat poor people food I guess.

>>130515201
Financial burden + a desire for less responsibility.

You can't have "fun at the club/with chad" if you have children to feed.

>>130515201
Because they like to pretend their careers are more important than procreating and raising children properly.

>>130522461
>kill farmers
>starve to death

>>130519070
damn, shit sucks man.

good job on not taking her back though..... sounds like a disaster.

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>>130515201

They dont seem to think children are a burden when they are birthing mulatos.

>>130515201
They will until the hit 31 years old. Then they lose their fucking minds.

>>130524683
So what? The farmers own the land and will have guard drones to protect them from desperate city people.
Why is the renter class so arrogant in thinking they are the ones with an advantage?

>>130515447
Lmao the shape of those pyramids

>>130515765
>>130515765
I enjoy the point you're attempting to make but that's just not true. I know more than a couple childless older women (50+, oldest 68) that I work with, all dental assistants. They're happier than I am, but I do hear the occasional musing from them about how they don't have children but I get a sense of curiosity more than regret when they speak. These are traditional, southern women too that understand the importance of women's roles in society.

>>130526243
Only all of human history

>>130538504
>>130538906
Or you could do something actually useful that people around the world will remember for centuries. Not everyone can do it but it's something you can strive for.

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>>130522309

Mostly because housing here is a bitch.

>>130520161
>There are over 7 BILLION humans
And if there was 7 trillion people, if they all stopped breeding because "there are enough people" then humanity would die out in a generation.
Stop breeding because there's too many people is such an idiotic argument.

They have too many sexual partners, it gets in the way of them being complete drunken whores.

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>>130523564

Yeah just be extra careful with this, most kids who are up for adoption have likely been abused and neglected and dealing with these issues can be more frustrating than potty training your own baby imo.

I'm not saying not to do it, just be careful.

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>>130518295
There are literally photos of her licking a cock head, this girl is shit.
Sadly if I saw her in the street I'd fall in love with her eyes and freckles and shit, fuck

Because it is a burden and most kiddos these days are lazy fucks.

Not a bad burden tho

>>130515201
Because it means they have to get of the cock carousel.

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>>130515201
My wife just gave birth to #5 two hours ago.

>>130542747
How does that answer OP's question?

>>130542867
#notallwhitewomen

>>130542454
trusting any girl who wears her hair in pigtails past ten....what'd you expect?

>>130523729

>In 40 years I'll be surrounded by my kids and grandkids. My wife and I will still be able to live at home because no matter what the government does, we'll have our childrens' support. Whatever achievements our children, grandchildren, or descendants further down the family line accomplish, my wife and I will have played a part in them, even after we pass.

>In 40 years you'll be alone because your wife either died during a skydiving accident or some shit or simply left your selfish ass because she actually matured, unlike you. Your entire life will be dependant on gibs from the government, while the only thing you'll be surrounded with is worthless material shit ((they)) told you was more important than having kids.

Enjoy being a good goy, faggot

>>130515201

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about OP?? Every woman I know who is 20-30 with a shitty retail job, car payments she can barely afford... who goes from one asshole chad to another every few months...

They all firmly believe having a baby... not a man or a husband or a house... just a baby... would fix all of their problems. But the chads they date are too smart to fall for it and most aren't big enough cunts to sabotage a condom... at least not yet... maybe when they turn 30...

I think it is by far the men who realize having kids is a burden. Men can seperate out the blind emotional drive to have a child for the sake of having a child and realize what a cluster fuck it is for you and your child's future to have one when you can barely survive yourself. Its women on the other hand who get blinded by hormones and ignore facts.

So... check yourself before you wreck yourself OP.

>>130515606 Exactly. Choose one.

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>>130516383
>kids are a fucking burden
>hole you throw money into for 18 years into
>you can't put em to work, you can't fuck em, they're a constant legal liability, they won't shut the fuck up unless you beat them into submission and beating them is nigh impossible because the government is always watching, waiting for a moment to correct your corrections
Hi, T.J. Kirk. Please sterilize yourself.