Did You Used To Have Left Wing Beliefs But You're Now Right Wing?

>>130476097
Never was left wing because that for people with no fathers and fags

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>>130476097
They went after my video games.

>>130476097
i find myself edging further to the left every day because everyone on /pol/ just gets more retarded as time goes on. socially of course, not economically.

found /pol sometime around dorner and gradually got pilled

>>130476097
We all grow up eventually
Millineals probably won't, but prior it was a constant

>>130476332
was on /b since 2007

I used to believe Ted Cruz was evil and Rachel Maddow was a saint.. now I can easily listen to Cruz and dismiss Maddow.

What changed is when I realized MSM tells anything that support their agenda. I realized this with Donald Trump's candidacy.

I was a cookie-cutter liberal for most my life, became an ancap for about a semester in high school, and gradually became a communist.

Social conservatism has never appealed to me. I have a functioning brain cell.

>>130476097
Mental maturation

>>130476097
I got a job working in a black neighborhood and was around blacks 8 hours a day.

>>130476097
Was slowly radicalized by anti feminist videos. Not memeing.
Those videos led to alt light videos, and they led me to /pol/

>>130476208
think about it, kids raised on video games soon enough will become leftwing

>>130476097
I started paying attention to Muslims.

>>130476228
Good leave. Gtfo. Go be a faggot and whine on r.eddit you beta bitch. No one wants you here. OUT OUT OUT you dumb nigger

>>130476097
I was brought up by left wingers in a left wing area by a left wing school. After being shat on for being a fucking White male I stopped giving a fuck what they think leading to the realization that my ideals were literally the opposite of everything they hold holy.
Also I awakened to the fact that small tits are the true man's fetish. Big asses are for niggers and big tits are for people who want used up whores.
>Muh DDs. Muh MILFS.
USED UP WHORES.

>>130476097
once you grow up, get a job and start playing taxes you automatically turn right wing

>>130476097
I realized that any notion of innate "righteousness" to democracy over other governing ideologies is not as self-evident as it is made to appear and it's all been downhill from there. Also I read Plato

I argued for socialism when I 19 and in college. I said stuff like "All of the kids who can afford to go to med school are rich kids, and most of them skip all of their classes and go to parties" I was going to school in Boston and hated rich kids.

Now I'm 26, and I still don't like rich kids, but I realize that they are better than dindus and welfare leeches.

>>130476097
I remember being a total left wing devotee. An Evangelist. Then I started reading a bitvabiut genetics and the clouds cleared.

Genetics and culture are the only things that matter.

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>>130476097
Joined the Army in 2004 while going to University. Went from indoctrinated lefty to indoctrinated right-wing conservative.
Left the Army in 2010 after finding I was Classical Liberal and didn't support the government's politics.

>>130476097
I've always been so but it was not something I considered or wore on my sleeve. I wanted to fuck goofy college chicks for too long and now that I am over that I've been waking up. It feels great.

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>>130476097
I was excited about obongo in 2008/9 because he wasn't dubya, I also felt he was being blamed for sub prime (gfc was unfolding) and I thought it was unfair to blame him for Bush's mess.

Then he bailed the banks out, and the airlines and the auto makers. I looked at how bail outs worked and fiat currency, then I became a libertarian and gold standard bore.

I had everyone laugh and tease me about my backwards looking anti gubberment beliefs until recently. They're not laughing now!

The real red pill is realising Republican and Democrat parties are reliant on Fiat money to achieve their welfare/warfare goals. Two legs of the same jew

>>130476097
>Be edgy tween in late 2000's
>Drawn to SJWism/ironic Communism
>Never agreed fully on things such as religion, "science", and internationalism
>Begin to notice the cognitive dissonance and roboticism of the SocJus movement
>Slowly move towards Libertarianism
>Zimzam happens
>Find /pol/
and the rest is history

>>130476380
Remember barrel rolls on Tom Green's web o vision?

Never was left wing, but I did use to have a live-and-let-live approach on social issues. Getting more authoritarian by the day as I see there is no other way out.

The changing kickstarted here. I'm very grateful for what /pol/ has taught me.

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I moved to San Francisco, used to be commie egalitarian.

Then I noticed the two facedness of leftwing ideas, the hypocrisy. Their pets,kangz, whom hilariously keep them oppressed because they know as soon as they get their shit together and work, they'd be hard pressed to pay bullshit taxes so that the leeches live well. Also was here for occupy

Really thought it was a merit based system. Do good shit, get good shit. Turns out that thinking was more right wing than left wing. More in line with civic nationalism; Romans did it, Greeks did it, Americans did it, and sports teams still do it, gotta unite under 1 banner.

Tldr; passive observation and questioning things.

I smoked enough weed to realize that the farther left you get, the more power you are trying to give to the inferior of the world who deserve nothing from society because they add nothing to society.

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>>130476097
Leftists started bitching at me for being white and enjoying hobbies and hanging out instead of fighting for black or gay rights or whatever. I never would have even looked at right wing policies and their purposes if they didn't, I would have kept thinking in Daily Show terms.

>tl;dr they wouldn't leave me alone

>>130476097
I used to be super lefty when it came to big government and socialism.

I started a company and realized how bad a job the government was at managing everything.

The nail in the coffin was when I started learning how to get dirty government contracts by working social circles, giving kick backs, undersanding that I can't even charge the US Gov ( and others ) a reasonable price because too many Gov jobs would be lost.

A 135k job has to cost about 900-1.2m to keep everyone's pockets lines, budgets increasing, and no department down sizing / lost jobs.

>>130476097
I used to be a lefty-liberal with a great distain for conservatives, Christians nationalists etc. But the last few years were a fucking nightmare. Everything I used to believe just turned out to be a complete bullshit, as both USA and Western Europe started turning into some hyper-leftist cucked shitholes. At a certain point you just realizes that white christians were the hardworking backbone of the modern civilization, and without them it's all going to fall apart.

Puberty happened.

Prepubsecent me:
>People should give me things for free
Pubescent me/Post-pubescent me:
>I should earn my keep

>>130476518
this is either pure autism or trolling. hard to tell the difference anymore

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>>130476097
The Left came for my vidya the same way the Right did years ago but this time everyone on the left was cheering. That broke my team loyalty pretty hard. Next three years spent watching the Left be pants-on-retarded with newly gained perspective. Realize the Left is completely detached from reality. Become politically nomadic while listening to the Right for the first time in my life. Realize they make sense on a lot of things.

>>130476228
so you want 10,000 genders and 8yr olds having sex reassignment surgery?

if so, fuck off to tumblr

formerly left leaning independent. never supporting dems again. party has gone full retard with identity politics.

>>130476097
I'm very much left wing but I've noticed that certain groups such as SJW cuckolds, feminists, blacks and fags are constantly telling me that because I'm a white straight male that I'm everything wrong with the world. These people are now the left wing equivalent of those retarded Alt-right fuckers.

Seriously, they're dogmatic fanatics and I just can't deal with their bullshit while those fucking morons are the reason why moderates abandoned Democrats and left Clinton out to dry against the world most easily beatable Presidential candidate.

White, straight, male middle class people like myself don't give a fuck about identity politics nor the fucking stupid beliefs fermented in college's and universities that has fuck all to do with the real world. So I have no fucks to give when these same asswipes cry that they're saddled with tens of thousands of dollars of debt because they decided to study feminism, liberal arts or philosophy.

So, no, I'm not some red pill shithead who'd vote for a blithering fucking simpleton con man like Trump but the left makes me hard to give a shit about their side either.

Fuck everything and let the world burn!!!

I grew up in Seattle, a SJW shithole, and swallowed the kool-aid. Then I moved away to university in Ellensburg where I got to talking to farmers and agricultural workers about politics and the economy. I realized that all of the Lefts talking points on social and economic policies were straight up retarded. Now I'm a classical liberal and militant in my hatred of the Left.

>>130476380
Me too. Ten years. Fuck my life.

>>130476097
First?
>having the life experience and calm of mind necessary to see how deceptive our media is, how truly corrupt our polticians/government/elites are, and backward academia has rapidly become

>When I realized all non-whites hate whites no matter what they mat claim
That as a group, they do not believe in equality, or merit, or justice.
But instead base their beliefs on what they perceive as best for themselves.

And the constant
>whites are bad or owe us something special
>men are bad or owe us something special
>special snowflake bullshit
>entitlement nonsense
>identity politics becoming increasingly more prevalent (and the hypocrisy and logical inconsistency that accompanies it)

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I live in orlando. I was moderate-left right up until the Pulse shooting and the fuckery that followed. I imagine it must be even shittier for right-wing homosexuals - the lgbt community here practically denies their existence.

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>>130476097

No. My journey was

>kindergarten&elementary school

always goosebumps when there was talk of the third Reich because teacher spoke of it like Armageddon

>Gymansium

defiant Nazi edgelord, racist, but no deeper understanding of what NS really was

>Age 19-22

right leaning libertarian

>Age 22-24(now)

serious NatSoc

Ironically enough /pol/ was one of the places where I found the most unbiased and hidden sources.

That, combined with the kikes turning up the tempo of their little scheme since 2015 truth was obvious to me.

>>130476097

The way adherents of Islam behave woke me up and I saw the world around me with clear eyes.

I was in the green, shot up to NatSoc and am now down in right libertarian or borderline AnCap. More or less I misunderstood many aspects of politics in the beginning and am back where I started but on the proper side.

>>130476466
Yeah, you realize they really are animals. Sure, you can educate them but you have to constantly watch yourself as if they're chimps that might try to bite your face off for no reason.

>>130476097
Being a minority white constantly in university. There always has to be shit skins in groups of people I hang out with. Shit skins keep bitching how they can't get a white girl.
Really activates my almonds.

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>>130476097
>Did You Used To Have Left Wing Beliefs But You're Now Right Wing
I've always been a stormfag, I can thank my parents. From about age 15 they completely drop the charade of 'tolerance', and 'diversity is good' anound my bother, me and my sister. I've had endless good times with it, we even put kike nigger etc etc. in our scrabble dictionary. It's nice to go somewhere IRL where you don't need to bite your tongue over /pol related topics.
>pic I had one of these as a kid, still hanging in my parents basement

>>130476508
You mean right wing?

I didn't have any political beliefs before 2016
I should go back to those days

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>>130476097

I was a hardcore liberal two-time Obama voter until I actually had to deal with socialists and niggers in my adulthood. Now I hope all commies and leftists hang from telephone poles.

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>>130476414
>i have a functioning brain cell
>communist

>>130476097
I grew up somewhat conservative during the obama administration. Seeing my peers bend over backwards to justify his bullshit non-stop threw me further right.
I bet I'm on his damn unmasking list, and when the day comes, I will record his fucking execution.
Your day is coming King Nigger.

>>130476097
It was shortly after Obama was elected. Seeing the media change over night. Everyone stopped challenging the President. Nobody made fun of him. Suddenly nobody had anything to talk about on the Daily Show.

It was then I started to see how full of shit the media is. Then I realized that I hate democrats even more than I hate republicans.

>>130476097

The left disconnecting themselves from reality completely.

Them being incapable of a logical discussion or compromise.

The Goebbels meets Alinsky rhetoric just became too transparent.

>>130478683

I still fully support fags and dykes though and have no problem with it. Still all commies should be burned alive.

Vote faggots.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540

>>130476097
Born and raised in California so if course I use to be a liberal. Joined the military and got a massive dose of red pill.
I also think red pills come with the older and wiser you get. You start thinking more and accidently red pill yourself.
Now I'm far right.

>>130476097
I wanted to race mix with a half white half black / arab / Asian , to make a 1/4 white kid cuz i thought it would be pretty

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>>130476414

>I have a functioning brain cell

Communism everybody

>>130478797

I went to Malcolm Shabazz High School in Madison, WI and had a class called Manwom in a Wom's World close to 20 years ago.

Nobody knows cultural marxism like I do.

>>130476097

I now have libertarian american constitutional beliefs.

Fuck the left and the right, both are heavily controlled by the same tyrant jewish slave drivers.

Their only major line of defense left is main stream media, once this collapses they are at a lost cause.

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>>130476097

I was a leftist until this past election. This past election and all the shady shit that was happening during this election was just too much for me to ignore. The DNC leaks, the BLM riots, the massive amount of uncontrolled migrations, antifa riots, the Trump supporters that were being persecuted while the media was blatantly covering it up, the crooked media that lied ever chance it got, terrorist attacks, racism against whites, Tranny's/homos/forcing that shit on children, etc.

I mean, just look at this short 30 political add

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7ZiddrkmI

The left truly has become unhinged. Just read the political comments too, they just can't see it.

The left started moving further and further to the left that I can't even stomach being around them half the time. Ferguson and the bizarre left wing support for a ghetto nigger crip thief was what it took to make me just give up on niggers and the left.

I spent a few weeks going to every forum saying nigger this, nigger that, getting banned on several accounts on all platforms. Now I still dislike them, but I don't get as angry.

>>130476414
Just one

>>130476097
I am a mixed boy who's dad told to hate white people.

Then I stayed around black people.

Easy

You have to lie to yourself to be left wing.

Some people deserve to be grinded up and served as tartare


Yum

>>130476414
>functioning brain "cell"
Gee I wonder why you're a commie.

>>130476097
I was a leftist but also a nationalist who believed in the right to bear arms.

Like the rust belt, I didn't abandon the left, the left abandoned me.

>>130476097
Went to college in 2007 as a Bush hating liberal and had a Stormfront account by 2010. I just got so fucking sick of all the goddamn victimhood and social conditioning.

I got robbed and financially ruined by my own family and their company because my cock loving cousin decided old ladies feelings were more important than honoring contracts, paying bills, and turning a profit.

They have gone from 100m+ to -30mil in 2-3 decades. Now the cock loving cousin is facing sexual assault charges because he was putting spycams in tenants bathrooms.

I became redpilled when my life required litigation.

>>130478995

This! BASED centrism ftw xD

>>130478017
>Now I'm a classical liberal and militant in my hatred of the Left.

Brother, I'm the same way now and you have my axe *guitar riff*.

>>130476667
I like where you started and then you started to talk about asses and tits. But I agree. Constantly being told I had this privilege when I didnt even know if I was gonna have a place to live.

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Im more interested to hear if people go from right to left wing.

I'm not a virgin so no reason for me to be right wing.

I was Mega-Hyper-Ultra-Turbo anti racist and anti nationalist in my middle school and early high school, but never a commie.

>>130478692
>>130478926
>>130479013
>>130479128
The obvious interpretation of my statement is that social conservatives have zero functioning brain cells and all it takes is one to NOT be a social conservative.

But, of course, you're social conservatives, so I understand how my comment must have been very complex and confusing to you.

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>>130476414
You sound like an easily influenced faggot without a backbone tbqh fampai

>>130479325

Like Winston Churchill said.

If you're under 30 and you're not a liberal, you don't have a heart.

If you're over 30 and you're not a conservative, you don't have a brain.

>>130479325
They don't.

>>130477190
Read a book on modern economics you retard.
The gold standard was outdated in the 1940s and it sure as hell is outdated now.
Grow the fuck up.

Seriously, people who advocate for the gold standard are just too damn ignorant.

I was pretty left until I had to deal with niggers. Later I discovered how liberalism makes you kill yourself via altruism to invaders.
Right now I'd like to lean libertarian, but I feel the strong leadership of Natsoc can keep out invaders.

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>>130479371
>fuck u guise ur dumb u obviously weren't smart enough to understand me

>>130479371

Why are these faggot commies always trying to talk from a place of intellectual superiority yet they say utterly retarded shit like this? Nigger, drop out of community college right now.

That picture of Hitler on a sled with a rainbow trail
It's crazy how it changed my life

Also, I'm fucking tired of the race mixing propaganda I'm seeing everywhere these days. You've probably noticed that it's always black men with white women.

So let me ask you this, if blacks were really soo superior then why does every black man aspire to date and impregnate white women? It's because they subconsciously know that they're barely domesticated animals and want their offspring to be successful, so they're trying to breed the nigger gene out of their bloodline.

You know this to be true.

>>130476667
>small tits
>real man's fetish

Hahaha, for waving a flag that promotes racial superiority you sure want genetically inferior brood.

Big tits and ass (not fatty flab but natural curves) are a sign of good breeding stock and means she can birth many children.

>>130476097
It's common because the media and education is leftist. Someone has to explain to you that Hitler was the good guy.

>>130476097
Hillary Clinton was the clincher for me. That first red pill was bitter; the ones that followed were sweet.

>>130479433
That's Bismarck and you botched the quote.

>>130476414
>Started as a kook, ended up having murder fantasies.

Typical hateful spiteful pagans

>>130479193
WTF did they do for a living, honorably kill the old so clients could get the inheritance?

Yes.

I grew up.

>>130476097
>I wanted to be Antifa when I was in HS
>none in my home town
>when I met those faggots at Uni I thought they were a bunch of nutcases and noped out
>also social anxiety
>started working and within 5 years started getting race realism cuz now had experience with diversity
>10 years later I realize that everything is anti white. Become lolbertarian
>Go Ron Paul!
>started listening to Texe Marrs, a Protestant version of Rense, just for the lulz
>reading books like hologram of liberty. Want to be a sovereign citizen
>one day it clicks Texe is right, the father of Jews really is satan
>wind up here
>I'm here forever
/blog

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>>130476097

nope, i am a mixed bag politically

>for abortion
>for gay marriage(would you really want degenerates to breed?)
>hate niggers
>hate spics
>hate white women
>hate third wave feminism
>pro-population control/child-free
>pro-suicide/euthanasia
>pro-income tax
>anti-welfare (taxes dollars should go to putting people to work building infrastructure)
>hate american asians
>hate normie liberals like the youngturks

I'm an old hippy.
I voted only once, I was 18.
After that I realized voting was nothing more than giving consent to a system I didn't believe in.
I always leaned toward the left tho.
It was Bernie who stole my heart. (I'm a girl)
After that farce with the DNC and Bernie hooking up with the butcher he turned into weak sauce in my eyes....
Slowly I woke up and saw where the left is leading us.
After a lot of reading I realized I wasn't a lefty, I've always been Constitutionalism (sp)? I just wasn't educated enough to know the difference.

>>130478996
This. I'm a bit ashamed to say it. But this last election the left was so disgusting that I went from liberal leaning to hoppe in about a year. Once dems became the primary opponents of free speech I started to turn. God fuck those stalinist sons of bitches.

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>>130479325
>Im more interested to hear if people go from right to left wing.
Only jungle fever faggots, in which case they were only pretending to be right so their dad wouldn't kick their ass
>pic good early childhood reading

>>130479842
Tits or GTFO

>>130479838
>for gay marriage
>being against gay marriage means gays would get wives
???

>>130476097
I'm a mixed raced black guy raised by whites and for a while I used to think that blacks and whites were equal but blacks acted differently because of a nature vs nurture type thing. Then I found out about the IQ bell curves.

>>130476097
I realized the best way to a peaceful society that respects the life of others and the environment is to advocate private property and nonviolence.

>>130478400
Maybe if they washed themselves more than one a week and stopped wearing sandals so we can see their dirty, smelly feet, maybe white girls would date them. Even niggers have the sense to bathe.

>>130476667
feet are the real man's fetish

>>130476097
>How'd it happen?

I started questioning assumptions and finding contrary evidence and when I brought this up to lefties I knew and respected they couldn't tell me why it was wrong, but they would call me racist and pretty soon "far right" and "nazi".

These were mild questions about crime rates, media distortion of things like the Zimmerman trial (that I saw live), the beliefs of terrorists.. fact based things. Not even in the "it's disputed" area of economics.

It gradually became clear how much of what I believed as a lefty had no real foundation. There's a hell of a lot of aspirational Kumbaya hippie shit that's the axioms of discussing anything in a lefty circle of friends and nobody dares question those assumptions. It's forbidden to.

I'm honestly not even over on the right, I'm economically moderate left, but lefties don't want me in their group. And sadly the people most willing to discuss things now are disaffected lefties like me, centrists, and the right wingers. They might be stupid in their own way but at least they'll talk.

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>>130476097

No.

Always hard right.

>>130476414
Please include me in the screencap of the commie getting clowned

>>130479842
>Left
>Constitutionalism
Pick one.
The current left doesn't care about the Constitution at all.

>>130479458

>Seriously, people who advocate for the gold standard are just too damn ignorant.

This

There's a reason why it fell out of fashion, in that the cons outweighed the pros. The most notable feature is that with fiat currencies when there's a downturn in the economy you get recessions, but with the gold standard you get depressions.

>>130476097
>How'd it happen?

I moved from Texas to San Francisco, California, then to Sacramento, and now I live in Oakland. Seeing firsthand how retarded liberals are turned me. It was a snowballing change, but living in Oakland really did me in.

That, and witnessing through the news the muslim invasion of Europe.

>tl;dr exposure to niggers and sandniggers

>>130479458
>gold standard is outdated
>petrodollar doesn't serve the exact same purpose
you're a fucking idiot anon

>>130476097
brown people

>>130476097
The battle of San Jose. That was it. Like a switch flipped in my head, "oh, we are going to be openly hunted in the streets as whites."

>>130480193
Constitution all the way...

>>130479634
>Big tits and ass
Wrong again nigger. It's hip/waist ratio.

>>130479992
I've always wondered what it was like to be black and be red pilled. (As in knowing backs are animals) what do you think of your kind and yourself?

>>130479193
>my cock loving cousin decided old ladies feelings were more important than honoring contracts, paying bills, and turning a profit.
define 'old ladies feelings'.

>>130476414
That's a shame man. Communists aren't even human. After all, the only good communist is a dead communist.

>>130476097
bernie shilling for clinton did it for me. i was sick to my stomach. then gradually got red pilled on everything on /pol/

Voted Obama in 2008 and Trump in 2016. Lots who did.

>>130476097
I was more centrist, but never leftist. Read Mein Kampf when I was a senior in high school, made jew jokes for years, then found /pol/ and saw how deep the rabbit hole actually went.

>>130476097
Was left wing, started getting pissed that feminists kept saying shit about people like me even though I was on their side, realized their argument was retarded, gradually shifted farther and farther right.

>>130476097
I've seen that the more the left gets the more greedy, more unsatisfied and more aggressive it becomes.
They do not want to compromise and somehow the slippery slope thing is actually a fucking axiom for them.
I still have some left wing beliefs that I could never shake but I did a 180 on the vast majority of them and think that the current left is fucking retarded, stuck up their own asses and should be thrown out of a fucking helicopter before they manage to replace Hitler with their stupidity.

On the bright side, thanks to them more people in the west actually researches communism and maybe one they they realize that Hitler was a fucking small child next to the horrors of communism.

>http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
One more for those late to the thread.

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>>130479842
Are you Ana Kasparian and can I eat your pussy?

They never got to me.

I grew up poor in a area with "refugees" cheating the system.

No amount of lies could change the truths I witnessed.

- Identity politics makes me into a lightning rod for hate and judgement based on my gender and skin color, and the leftists who see the irony in that are few and far between. I'm not going to play the victim for anyone's benefit, fuck off.

- Immigration is out of hand, humanitarianism is being used as a cover to justify trying to undercut local workers. Trying and failing because the fuckers aren't working.

- I got older and figured out a few hard truths. 'Inequality is unavoidable' was a good one to start with.

- Muh video games

>>130479371
>be mensa member
>social conservative
>commie tells me i'm dumb

WEW

Does it bother you that no intelligent people think communism is good?

>>130476097
I had to pay my first bill.

>>130481011
*play the villain

>>130478996
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7ZiddrkmI
this ad actually makes me want to vote for Ossoff. This is the hackiest political smearing, and it smells like it was paid for by someone with deep pockets.

If you want to shill for Karen Handel, next time just tell everyone Ossoff is a jew.

>>130476097
I'm actually the opposite.

Got a job that was salary and paid more than $50k. My roommates at the time started to stop buying groceries or pay rent because "You got money spread it around and help us out". That got me to stop agreeing with the left on anything involving money.
What broke me with their social agenda was a blue haired white girl telling me I wasn't black enough to make comments about BLM. Wasn't even that the group was bad it was that they needed to pick their martyrs better.

>>130476097

I still have many staunch left-wing beliefs. Thing is, though, what passes as the "left" nowadays is just a bunch of Brave New World-inspired authoritarians who do not believe in basic liberal tenants such as free speech, freedom of association, and lively political debate.

I voted for Sanders in the primary, voted for Trump in the general. Reason being the establishment needed to get fucked. In the intervening time, however, I saw how the "Left" came to despise basic principles enshrined in our Constitution. I hated Bush, didn't like Obama (he continued and expanded the surveillance state, intervened in Libya and Syria, and continued the extrajudicial execution of American citizens with fucking drones), and I know the Democratic Party is flled with corporatist elites who want nothing but to get rich and watch the middle and working classes suffer.

I'm not right-wing. But I know the governing class of this country is well beyond repair. Trump is a battering ram to help break and dissolve power structures and either lead us away from globalist "liberal" doctrine, or polarize this country to such a point that the only recourse is to settle it on the battlefield.

I'm a nationalist leftist who thinks every country should never surrender sovreignty, who should look after and promote the interests of their own population above all else. Assange is my patron saint, and Trump is a useful means to an end and leaps and bounds a better human being than fucking Hillary Clinton.

This country will only see deliverance when the so-called deep state is utterly destroyed.

>>130476097
Used to be hard left.

Noticed those decisions and mindsets encourages hedonism, degeneracy and set my life back.

Watch countless people's lives be ruined.

Started to become more conservative, and my life cleaned up really.

Plus most of the arguments are wishful thinking, mental traps, and a distortion of reality when inspected closely. The ideology preys on people's good nature.

Also watched amazing, sweet people get more and more mentally ill and hate white peiple with a savage passion. Even breaking up with good friends and partners over it.

The left is cancer.

>>130481156
How do autistic people use the computer? Do you just tell someone what to type for you?

>>130481162
>I wasn't black enough
/pol/ WAZ KANGZ

>>130480325
what the hell are you talking about?
USD reserves work because of the benefits of fiat currency
you are saying that our current system is the same as the gold standard, which makes no god damn sense

>>130479710
Theres suspicions of that happening. Well not for clients, for themselves. While they lost everything.

>>130476097
Nope, I didn't trust any government and only voted for whoever non whites, hippies, and homeless people complained about -Harper- every single time. Long time conspiracy theorist.
It was unironically not until Trump ran that I took a definitive look at the difference between liberals and conservatives for the first time.
I'm 28.
I will admit that I fell for the Bush is evil meme, but when Obama won I felt nothing. Didn't even know or care who Romney was.

>>130480978
>They never got to me
Yet you post with a pro-recycling flag. Only aluminum, steel and lead acid batteries are economically recyclable. Everything else is a massively subsidized 'feel good' make work project for big government.

>>130476097
Obamas reaction after Trayvon

>>130476097
Travelled around Europe. Started in Srbija and stayed there for 3 and a half months. After 3 and a half months of an old man speaking to you in Srpski about politics, religion, history, and economics, you understand a lot of a language. We would debate, at least the best as I could in a language that wasn't my mother tongue. I saw an ethnically homogenous (for the most part) society, with a homogenous religious system. They didn't really have these issues that we do in America with blacks this, whites that, and so on. Plus they've dealt with Muslims before and I was slowly coming to understand what Muslims want. They also tried the multicultural socialist Yugoslavia, which collapsed in the face of ethnic and religious tensions. Then I left for Germany. I stayed in the German Lowlands. Met another older man with a desire to protect his family and nation from strangers. Stayed mostly in the country, but whenever I went to the cities it was filled with Muzzies. I recall this single instant of a buncha sandniggers yelling Alluh Ackbar and thinking to myself, what if I yelled "Got will es!"? Or "Got ist grosser!"? (Deus Vult and God is greater) That was a moment it kinda snapped for me and kicked in that these people don't belong here. Germany is German. Germany is Christian. Whilst I am a stranger and not an ethnic German, I understood the old German man and his anger. A huge part of it also had to do with the fact that in the month and a half that I was in Germany there was 2/3 terror attacks in Germany and 2/3 in France. Went back to Srbija and talked with the old man. Told him my observations. Basically made the cross and sighed. After that went to Paris, and saw what a shithole that place was. Then Ireland and was met with hostility by most all of the Irish that I met. Don't really knock em for it. I understood their anger at a buncha strangers using their homeland as a vacation destination.
tl;dr Travelling realized importance of ethnicity and culture

I was always liberal about pretty much everything and didn't understand how anyone could be right wing but then I started to see inconsistencies with the left and seeing stuff that made sense in the right.

I swallowed the truest red pill of all, both sides in their extremes are fucking retarded and lead to censorship and their retarded agenda, you can never let one side get too much power.

>>130476097
crime stats confirming general perception

>>130480193
read it again. slowly.

>>130481527
Bernie sanders overhype is the only reason that got me to investigate politics. When I saw him say "Zionism? What's that?" Was when I thought "oh fuck no, there has to be someone on the republican side who can stop this, God please no!"

>>130476097
Yes. I am from a long line of masons and plasterers who habe been union organizers for generations. My grandpa was BA of my union.

Bernie dog whistled me with his Hitler quotes. 1% being the Jews etc. When he made excuses for Hillary and started towing the DNC line I knew he was a typical kike.

I was born again Christian, realizing that the union may raise our wages, standard of living, and enhance workplace safety... it is just a tool of the devil to get us to take money while we sell our souls to communist faggots and welfare niggers.

I was leftist in the sense of National Socialist.

>>130481572
You should recycle plastics too if you can since that shit doesn't biodegrade.

>>130476097
The left went way to far left. When i think democrats i think about gay muslim niggers now because thats all they talk about

I stopped being an edgy nihilist

>>130481148

I don't even know who those people are, this was an add in another thread made that was deleted. All the liberal tears in the comment section is what made me want to use it as an example (plus the lefts clear display of insanity).

>>130476162
My father took me fishing 5 nights a week and would literally kick the dogshit out of your dad.

Was liberal growing up (graduated high school in 2006) around conservatives (for Massachusetts' standards), because I thought things like gay rights and abortion were ok, all races were more or less equal it was just a matter of socio-economic conditions, and I didn't know much about the economy or taxes.

Then when I entered college the left started pushing for more retarded shit like trans rights, white privilege/guilt, crazy immigration policies, and Obama literally did nothing in office. That pushed me away from the left, although I still try to look rationally at candidates rather than just pick a side and stick with it. I do still believe in gay rights, although I think their culture is degenerate, and I think abortion is a grey issue. But I now know blacks are the plague, welfare is insanely broken, the federal gov't is way too big, and both the right and left are owned by the jews.

>>130480978
Yep, I knew a Polish family of three (mother, father, adult son) back in the early 90's who all worked under the table, each had a car and they STILL collected disability and went to food banks. Fucking mongrels.

>>130481609
Experience is the best red pill.

>>130476414
" I have a functioning brain cell".

If you have to say that then clearly you're not as intelligent, well-rounded and clever as you think. That's a pretty pretentious and shallow statement to make.

>>130476097
I went through mild depression in 2010-2011, which made go full leftard.
In 2012 I found /pol/ and you can figure out the rest.

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>>130480500
>(As in knowing backs are animals) what do you think of your kind and yourself?

Well, I'm half white, and somehow managed to get those genes for intelligence. The state of my race is pretty fucking bleak though. Guilty whites democrats who want easy votes just and excuse and reward nigger behavior. Instead of admitting that there very clearly is a problem within black culture that is antithetical to societal progress and success, they start spouting apologetics and providing (((solutions))) that just sweep the problem under the rug.

For example, did you know that the IQ cutoff for retardation used to be 85 until people found out that the average black IQ is 85? So instead of admitting that about half of the black population is mentally deficient and requires special attention and education to keep them out of trouble, they just shifted the minimum IQ for retardation one standard deviation to the left and tried to claim IQ testing is racist. Now we have a nation full of niggers with the minds of children and varying degrees of literacy breeding like rabbits and creating more stupid kids. And instead of spending some money on testing and special education for these niggers, we spend a shitload more on welfare and the prison system, and claim that they can't help themselves and that white people are to blame.

All because some faggots didn't want to be "racist".

>mfw

>>130476097
I was a white, straight male that wanted to be left alone. That was literally it. I wanted to be left alone, and they couldn't even give me that one kindness.

>>130476414
Hooked a lot of (you)'s

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>>130476097
I was always a right wing/reactionary/traditionalist. It's the way I was raised for the most part. Parents were basic bitch conservatives with socially traditionalistic proclivities. Always socially conservative. Always old order. I've been on 4chan since 2008. Started on /b/, but then migrated mainly to /pol/.

/b/ fascinated me because it puts the underbelly of humanity on display. You get to see what people really think about, and what kind of sick things they want to inflict on the human race.

When I started coming on /pol/, probably back in 2012 or around there, I was one of the growing number of rightists.

Just glad that I can find others that are like me in rejecting mainstream culture and MSM narratives in favor of realism.

>>130481959
Anyone who is still a communist after the lessons of the past and present doesn't deserve a response.

>>130480642
This, right here.
I was a bleeding heart liberal coming into college. Switched into a history BA my third year (I know, I'm a degenerate for having an Arts degree but fuck you I made it work) and things started not making sense. The liberal discourse just couldn't hold up once I started actually digging into the nitty gritty of the western world's historical past.
Then the Arab Spring happened, which I was so stoked about. "Freedom for the Arabs" I thought. Then the Arab Spring ended with the complete devastation of multiple countries. Then those same Arabs and Africans began invading Europe (oh, sorry, "migrating").
I think the last straw was Ukraine. I jokingly conversed with a good friend on how I would have envisioned that situation going down if I were a "conspiracy theorist." And then, it went down, right in front of me, exactly how I had jokingly described. That was a pretty eye-opening experience.

>>130481929
Made me also appreciate my states culture a lot more. I'm very proud of my heritage now. And want to protect my state and it's people from niggers and kikes.

>>130479371
Your first post was good, this is low quality bait

>>130481318
Holy shit, are you me.

david duke being the only media that told the truth about trayvon martin which is to say pointing out that skittles and flavored ice-t is what you mix "lean" with, that started it, then hearing every liberal say they saw eric garner getting "choked to death" when it's obvious from anyone who's done mma for a week that chokeholds make you pass out from cutting off blood flow to your brain, not stopping oxygen to your lungs, after that i just couldn't take it anymore (also the hypocrisy that the kid who filmed eric garner was busted later for having an 'undocumented' handgun which liberals love to cry about unless he's operating thugcam for whatever douchebag is fighting the cops)

>>130476508
In my experience kids that were raised on video games (including myself) tend to lean more rightwing or libertarian. This is because video games are all about self-achievement and no game is going to hold your hand if you suck at it and this is especially true if you play any multiplayer games were people shit on you for being bad at a game. Considering how Millennials and lefties do not like to acknowledge personal achievement and bouncing back from failure, any gamer is not going to drink the lefty kool-aid of "everyone gets an A for trying!" The only part of video games that lefties like is the fantasy part of it because lefties like to act out their delusions but beyond that all of the values that games instill in you are things that are more natural to the right as opposed to the left.

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Life experience.

>>130481769
>recycle plastics too if you can since that shit doesn't biodegrade
While takes more burned oil to recover sort and reform thermosets. it is just not worth it. The only thing recycled polymers are good for is those plastic faux-wood park benches and similar low value-added products. In 20-50 years or whatever when we have the tech developed to cheaply break down and reform the hydrocarbons, we can dig up the land fills for profit and material, it's still is recycling, just delayed.
t. chem eng

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When I could no longer deny that we are not All The Same. I can't keep down the cultural marxist koolaid anymore.

>>130480563
Aunties want to hire people with 0 experience. Repeatedly. For management. Everything is their teams fault. Better cut their benefits so they know to work harder.

Nothing got done, refuse to pay the subs. Turns out was family members fault, threaten the sub. Sub walks, stalk and slander the sub with SUPER GANGSTER friends who basically run a couple 2 girl brothels. Sub laughs and starts ridiculing them publicly. Smear more, attack his family, try to file charges against sub.

Now a few years later, not paying the sub who refused to apologize for cousins incompetence has now revealed decades of fraud, mismanagement, embezzlement, money laundering, and the really hilarious sexual assault charges. The amount they refused to pay the sub: 15k.

Also, this marks the second generation of my family committing sex crimes against each other and the people around them.

I'm pretty sure my parents generation didn't produce a single penny for anyone but the generation before that was just epic cut throat actual gangsters.

My first step towards conservativism began with reading the daily telegraph.
I saw links in comments frequently to breitbart, and slowly became disillsioned with telegraphs reporting.
I saw the MSM as someone who sees a child, always taking about the symptoms but never wanting to discuss the disease. Slowly I moved further right, reading Amren, becoming a "race realist", finding shitlord hub, listening to mark steyn. Finally I just embraced the obvious, and became a nazi.

Sorry to say it, but muslims, africans and brown people in general want what white people have, and they are going to kill us ....
either literally or demographically...
to get our stuff.

Its now so obvious. There is only one solution. If white people wish to remain as white people, and that is physical removal from our lands of those who do not share our DNA.
I never wanted a war with the other people, but war has been declared on me. Unfortunately our ZOG is waging this demographic war of extermination against its own people.

It makes me sad to think that white people may one day be gone. We have done so much, come so far, and carried most of these ingrates into the modern age, only to be destroyed by our own goverments.
Sad, very sad. It is a great stain upon the children of the earth how they have treated us.

The left harbour, condone and encourage child explaination. It's the next "right" they plan on pushing, with much of their MSM media propaganda already pushing for it. I think this will turn many more away. Personally I would favour nearly any group that opposed it. Day of the rope.

>>130476097
I grew up in the San Francisco bay area. Everyone is socially indoctrinated into leftism by default. Especially those who think they are not political. This is the dichotomy of the left, which is a belief that one is somehow rebelling against the system while demanding that the system be used to enforce your ideals. A very diluted and obvious example is the modern, self-described anarchist who demands a communist system of government. The liberal mind virus has spread such that unless you actively assess your political ideologies in a critical manner, you are likely to be a leftist be default. There is no such thing as somebody who is not political. Apathy is a leftist trait followed closely by self destruction.

>>130482397
I know it's not economically sound, but it actually is an environmental hazard. But I'm not going to be some zealous faggot about it, so do whatever you want.

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I was pretty apolitical for many years before eventually becoming right wing, but I would say that I was left leaning because most of the people around me were, so I just tried to go with the flow and avoid confrontation

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>>130477190
>The real red pill is realising Republican and Democrat parties are reliant on Fiat money to achieve their welfare/warfare goals. Two legs of the same jew

This is based.

Happened when I was around 14 about 10 years ago

>Shifting towards the far-left because I think conservatives are Nazis
>Discover Ron Paul and adopt more libertarian stances
>Obooboo gets elected
>Democrats do a 180 on things like Free Speech and Privacy
>Realize what hypocrites and frauds they are

It's almost hard for me to imagine that I had been spouting SJW rhetoric way back before it was even a thing. I guess that's what being in Eighth Grade will do to you.

>>130476414
Wow, you have one brain cell - no wonder you're a communist.
>>130476466
This DESU. It's what turned me into a conservative. I worked as a fucking cashier at a mcdonalds inner city. Seeing the fucking droves of them come out of the woodwork, yelling, screaming, laughing, and leaving the restaurant as an absolute shithole EVERY FUCKING DAY drove me nearly insane. I'm talking trash ALL over the floor so you couldn't step without stepping on something, ketchup smeared all over the walls and counters and tables, coke spilled everywhere, something or another striaght up broken every night. I'd have to spend hours at the end of my shift cleaning it all up. I used that anger to push me through university, but it's also what made me right-wing. Those fucking inner city blacks. Jesus. I just got some PTSD to their bullshit.

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It happened like this

>>130476097
>Did You Used To Have Left Wing Beliefs But You're Now Right Wing?
No. Raised by Conservative parents. Always was conservative. Now I'm not a conservative anymore. Flag related.

>>130481318
May I ask how long you've been employed?

>>130476097
The left became the thought police.

>>130476097
I didn't know anything about politics or cared till a few years ago. I'm about 50 50 with each side but lean more left now. I don't like the sjw of the left nor do I like the snoweflakes of the right either. Both are annoying and both should fuck eachother and die. The reason why I lean more left because it's more of my social group I hang out with.

>>130477623
I still watch that Chris Ray Gun video. It's so true. I'm glad GamerGate happened and it Redpilled so many people though I still do resent the Left for going after our video games. But god damn does it make me happy we stood our ground (unlike what happened with comic books).

>>130482702
>misuses PTSD
>says they're not a liberal

get out

>>130477628
>>130476518
Not the person who posted that, but yall are making the left out to be really extreme. Anyone who thinks paedophilia should be legal shouldn't even be considered in politcal arguments like these. Nigger? Grow up you fucking pussy.

>>130483082
>what is hyperbole

Obviously I'm using it for effect, dumbass.

>>130476097
I am economically left, and generally still left socially just that I oppose immigration STRONGLY. It's more important than most of my other beliefs.

It dawned on me that we are indeed being replaced/genocided.

>>130482061
Here's the problem. We all originated from the African region. The members of our species who developed higher I.Q.'s were the ones who migrated to other parts of the world because they had intellectual curiosity. Niggers are literally the descendants of brainless animals who were content to graze in fields and whose population was kept in check due to environmental factors such as limited food, predator animals, disease etc....

What we're seeing today is what happens when you take stupid animals out of their natural environment and place them in civilizations that take pity on them and give them endless amounts of food.

Niggers are human cockroaches.

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>voted obongo at 18 because all the cool kids do
>forget about politics
>obongo false flags start happening
>detour from /b/ and /v/ once in a while to watch happenings
>you guys seem cool
>skip to summer 2015
>see shitskins pouring into Europe
>get outraged by leftist ignorance of the issue at hand
>start browsing /r/european, /r/coontown, and, naturally, /pol/
>le reddit shuts down far right subs
I guess I am here full-time since late 2015.

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>>130482631
>it actually is an environmental hazard
Not really in the first world, landfill construction is an incredibly regulated business these days.
Fair enough though, I don't like to get preachy about it either, waste plastic disposal is not exactly the biggest problem facing the western world right now.

>>130482742

I've been working since thirteen (under the table) and am still working now. Only been unemployed for about five months since then due to a lay-off. I'm in my late twenties now.

Probably a troll comment, but whatever. There's the honest answer.

>>130483529
I was just curious to understand perspective, thanks.

>>130482197

I think a lot of people feel this way. The degeneration of so-called liberal discourse into ridiculously inconsequential identity politics means that so-called "movement" left a lot of people behind wondering what the hell happened?

The Tea Party. Occupy Wall Street. Movements based on economic justice (from different points of view) totally co-opted. It's disgusting.

I was in high school, then I wasn't.

>>130476097
Going into college I was mostly apolitical, but otherwise just had normie left-wing opinions. I majored in Econ so I was getting redpilled on that front, but I was still just a Libertine.

It wasn't until I had an ethics course in which all the teacher wanted to talk about was white male privilege which I totally rejected in no large part because one of my close friends got a full ride blacks only scholarship with a lower gpa and act than me. This class also was the first time I had heard the word cis and all of the feminist/minority empowerment propaganda had the opposite effect on me.

It also helped, however, that my parents were both conservatives and had tried to redpill me as a kid, but I didn't believe everything they told me until I saw it with my own eyes.

>>130476097

>started working for myself
>saw how much was taken away in quarterly taxes
>saw how much was taken away in self-employment taxes
>still not right wing though
>make joke I heard on SNL
>SJW Colorado bitch chimps out big time
>still not right wing though
>Obamacare kicks in, forces self-employed to buy health care
>fucking bullshit
>make comment that Trump is right on political correctness
>might vote for him
>lib goes ballistic with insults
>asks afterwards, how do you like people speaking their minds now?

That sarcastic quip did it.
Thank you "Tony From Brooklyn" for turning me into a conservative. Also FUCK YOU BITCH, TRUMP WON.

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>>130476097
I grew up with a sister and a single mother, so my destiny was to be a liberal fuck wit. Naturally, I got cheated on by a long-term girlfriend because I was a weak-willed little beta bitch.

Always been a /b/tard and after the break up I went full meme-tier depression up to suicide plan (but not execution). Found a thread on /b/ about plebbit r/theredpill and took a look.

All their info about alpha/beta/awalt and the basic tenets they expect you to read pretty much summed my life up precisely. Decided to not slash my veins and did their checklist on self-improvement.

After that I felt a lot better about myself (although still not alpha status) and saw another thread on /b/ about /pol/.

Several memes and some /pol/ redpills later I saw how much bullshit I've been fed by everyone around me. Now I'm significantly more conservative than anyone in my family.

/pol/ anons are best anons. It hard to swallow reality but worth it.

>>130476097
Nope. Started off in the center/apethetic, went left after seeing how conservative policies affect the world.

>live in one of the most, if not THE most conservative cities in the country
>a military base, church, ""medical"" marijuana store, homeless veteran, or a payday loan store on every corner
>watch as fire prevention agencies and the fire department have their budges slashed because muh socialism and muh big government don't tread on me
>a few years later, massive wildfires breakout
>destroys millions of dollars worth of homes and businesses
>local government runs crying to the federal government for help

Literally throwing money and lives into a fire because ~my special snowflake ideology~. That's not to mention how much economic potential was lost. And then the insurance companies tried to ripoff the people who had their homes destroyed in order to make a quick buck. They probably would've gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling big government.

And to top it all off, the only reason the city hasn't become a smoldering wasteland of poverty is because of all the military bases surrounding it, bringing in a constant stream of money. Claiming that big government is ruining your life when the only reason you and your community have life in the first place is because the dreaded big government keeps taxing wealth away from others and redistributing it to your community is pretty fucking stupid.

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>>130476097
no not really, but i did like gay left-wing bands like nofx.

>>130479371
No, we caught it and it was amusing not insulting.

And the pretentious over-states dribble flows out of you again. Wew lad. Triggering and insecure much?

I realised that I was advocating for everyone else because I was a low self esteem faggot and it made me feel better. It was never about them, it was about my own lack of self worth.

Pointing out other people's disadvantages put me above them (in my mind) while at the same time I was fighting against the powers above me trying to pull them down as well.

When you slow down and become aware that every decision you make either moves you forwards or backwards that's when you start taking responsibility for shit. When you start taking responsibility for shit you can't surround yourself with people who aren't taking responsibility for shit (liberals) because that would be a step backwards.

>>130479619
Based as fuck.

>>130476097
>did you use to have left-wing beliefs
Yeah, I suppose. I was convinced that it wouldn't hurt to let faggots marry, and that they'd be as discreet about it as any straight couple.
Therefore, I turned a blind eye to fag marriage, neither supporting or opposing it. While you might call that a "moderate" stance to have, it's obviously more beneficial of a stance to the left-wing than it is the right-wing.
>how [did your views on that subject become right-wing]?
By seeing said faggots trample all over straight people, march around half-naked in obnoxious parades, being the main promoters of gender nonsense, etc..
Now, I hate them more than I did 5+ years ago, and there's not a chance in hell I'll ever see them as equals again.

>>130476097

The NDAA 2012. More succinctly, the lack of push back against if from liberals. That's when I saw... they're all the same sheep that they accuse everyone else of. Then I decided to burn it all down.

2008: AP Physics teacher, and emigre from the Soviet Union, challenged my wealth redistribution beliefs. Never had someone so directly challenge my shit.

Soon after I grew more and more disgusted with the Obama fan club. Started following Ron Paul.

2009-2010 - Became Ancap.

2015-2016, started seeing more and more racial requirements for a libertarian society. 2016 I massively uncucked myself with my social beliefs, started becoming much, much more traditionalist.

Yup.

September 11th changed me.

No going back.

father (50 years older than me) had me right wing at a young age, and pretty distrustful of the media

i feined leftwinged-ness for the last while but yeah he was right

>>130484648
What sorts of things did your physics teacher tell you about wealth redistribution?

>>130484271
Okay there is part 1, now where is part two where you become disillusioned with the modern left like the rest of us.

>>130484641
This killed me about the left too that and the COMPLETE silence towards Obama's foreign policy when it was an addition to what GWB's policies were. That sealed the deal in showing me that the left were complete hypocrites in terms of war and civil liberties and I fully settled into libertarianism after finding that Ron Paul was consistent on these issues and the left hated him mainly because he was on a "different team".

>>130476097
I want her putrid stank ass piss to hit my lips like a stinky hot water fountain that a homeless man just used to fuck his ass

I was treating everything my parents said as law, and being super left wing, and then I grew up and realized that my parents are wrong and that liberals are causing more issues for the is than any racists or gun owners or Trump supporters

>>130484271
poverty is the fault of those impoverished. if you think otherwise get the fuck out of america and make room for some hispanics who do and will outpace your worthless ass.

>>130484937
He simply asked me why it was moral at all to take from one person and give to another.

It was asked very plainly. When asked to stand on its own two feet it fell apart. I couldn't defend it without the ultra-left SJW (back then it would have been proto-SJW) ideological framework backing it up.

>>130476414
Just one, that's why you're communist

I realized the real left was the right. That progression was reaction. That the future is behind us. And ahead of us is only death and destruction.

I have always been a big fan of things like the free market, freedom of speech, and individual liberties. Apparently that used to be liberal, but apparently that's now conservative.

I think the left has gone so far beyond what could ever be considered reasonable, across the board. Affirmative action, quotas, unfeasible social liabilities, outrageous goals for the minimum wage (it's already grown like 40% over the last 8-10-ish years, and people want to push it to $20/hr), complete dismissal of anybody remotely concerned with the growing debt, deficit, and unfunded liabilities as 'a biggot', calling everybody racist, calling everybody sexist, telling people they're not allowed to have genital preferences, telling people they're not allowed to have body-type preferences, telling people they must use certain pronouns when speaking to certain people, mass character assassination of anybody remotely critical of the left's agenda, etc. It's all completely insane.

I try to be a modest, reasonable person. I came from a very low income household and am now a 25 year old college dropout with a six-figure income, I pay my taxes, and I pay my student loan debts. I own a cheap house, and I try to give back to my community. But apparently I am a wealthy, privileged biggot who owes all of their success to being a white, straight, cis male and I am not allowed to be displeased with how much I am paying in taxes every year and how little benefit society seems to be receiving from those taxes. One side of the spectrum respects and supports that position, and the other calls you a racist and tries to demoralize you for it. Which one do you think I'm going to want to work with?

>>130481496
I think what the other anon is saying is that gold and petrodollar serve the same function of being the backbone to the world economy and both have such of a value mainly because of faith since neither gold or the petrodollar are "backed" by anything else. The petrodollar is also what basically drives our foreign policy and you need to look no further than the truth behind why we went into Libya to see that. Yes the USD operates on fiat but that really only means that our central bank, the Federal Reserve, has more tools to manipulate the economy though in both a gold standard and fiat currency system there will still be business cycles. The ((((((Federal Reserve)))))), unsurprisingly, are occupied by very corrupt bankers, government officials, lawyers, businessmen, etc. and a lot of monetary policy measures utilized by the Fed basic results in money being given to these forces before anyone else (this is in effect what quantitative easing really is in what the results of it end up being).

tl;dr the other anon is saying that functionally speaking the petrodollar and the gold standard are one in the same in their importance though the system of fiat currency basically allows for a lot more corruption than the gold standard would

>>130476097
I was always conservative, but I was never racist. I think today, my views would be considered racist because I hate BLM and I believe the Jewish conspiracy that the American government has been completely subverted.

>>130476097

I turned 13.

grew up tbqh

>>130485096
this too. My moms family was/is super left wing. Also conspiracy people, which is an interesting combination.

I've ditched the leftism and am now hard/traditionalist. Still a conspiratard though, so that's a +2 for the bad goys.

My first ever thoughts about politics were things like "why can the government tell me what to do when I'm not bothering anyone else?" and "how does money have any value if they can just print more of it?" as a little kid and my opinions have not really changed kek.

>>130477432
>started a company
>get government contracts
Unavoidable cargo ship of anti-socialism red pills dumped on you.

Definatly when the chimps started rioting and tearing up major cities and seeing Obongo take no action. If it was up to the left in this country the chimps would run wild and no consequences for their violent and uncivilized behavior. Meh laws are racist, meh black men incarcerated for commit crime. I'll never do back.

>>130476414
>for about a semester
Did your dad tread on your fee fees?

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I was a Marxist Leninist Maoist. Read a lot of Marx, Lenin, and Louis Althusser. Was with a good group of folks that are very smart working class people. Historical Materialism, labor theory of value, falling rate of profit, capital's natural concentration into fewer hands, and the idea that as long as there was a state it would be used to benefit the capitalist class propelled me to be politically active.

I soon realized that the left is full of disgusting proto-bureaucrats that want free shit. America isn't a white supremacist hole, and socil responsibility is of great importance. I was a fucked up alcoholic.

>>130476228
you are gay of course

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>>130483160
>yall are making the left out to be really extreme

Almost like they've never changed because they're impossible to reason with and even impossible to appease (due to their retard ideology). Or is Bastiat a common poster on /pol/? Stupid fucking nigger.

>>130486197
Oh, hanging out on /leftypol/? I can see how those bright young children studying for an econ course that doesn't yet exist would drive you away from it.
>>130486460
>thinks there is a distinction between government and society
>only because the republican system of government creates, enforces, and maintains that distinction

>>130476097

I moved to Hawaii. Hawaii is touted as a multicultural paradise, whereas in real life it's a liberal shithole. Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the union, and election after election the shit-skin ethnic majority elects a Democrat that signs their rights away. Homelessness has exploded in even just the past 5 years and for all intents and purposes, this is a third-world country.

>>130476097
is called growing up you filthy datamining kike

>>130476097
It was a slow awakening for me. I realized that lefties don't have a moral compass. I saw that most of my friends--who were lefties--didn't weigh whether their actions were right or wrong--they just did whatever was best for them at the time. So I saw things like drug use, shoplifting, pregnancy scares, and general foolishness. They were miserable people, and it was their own fault. I just grew tired of it and no longer cared to hear their problems. I started to realize that this post-modernist outlook leads to nihilism and rot. I started seeing how post-modernism on a macro scale has been the downfall of our society.

>>130476097
I used to be pretty left wing until I started realizing how absurd and anti-constitutional they were. Their arguments are based on absolutely nothing and they can't debate for shit. My friend lead me to the red-pill through the Proud Boys. I know that organization is pretty hated here, but I don't give a fuck. I've seen the light and it brings me great joy to go out and trigger libtards and watch them squirm trying to debate me or my friends.

>>130482306
Mother fucker did you see current years e3 line up? "It's all about telling a story now" fuck the game play. The thing you describe as turning us libertarian.

>>130476097
Became more religious. Doestoyevsky was right socialism is usually just a symptom of atheism

>>130486592
>Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the union
So what, exactly, is different about Hawaii, other than being further from the nearest US state than any other US state is from the furthest other state? Be real now.

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>>130476097

>Was rabid leftist from age 13 through 30
>became business owner
>married redpilled female
>stopped trying to rebel against upbringing, embraced it instead
>happier than ever
>see the world for what it is, not what I wish it were
>would sooner shoot myself in the face with buckshot than ever be liberal again

>>130476097
In my teens travelled around Germany and Peru, got into Deep Ecology & Peak Oil, got degree in Biogeochemistry and German, realized US dominance is just because of the natural gas and this upends OPEC geopolitics, got a blue collar job and started prepping, realized the Holocaust wasn't real, now planning for the race war.

I don't know how many other NoDAPL-supporting vegans want to gas all the Jews but I'm assuming none. Yet here I am.

I could see that the sub-prime mortgage disaster and resulting bailout was a massive theft of public monies. Then came the fucking bonuses the 'poor bankers' received.

Then I came across info that convinced me of racial realities involving IQ and civilization qualities.

Came across a Japanese book called 'If you understand the Jews you understand the World.'

(I speak and read Japanese)

These three things started me onto the red pill.

Before that, I was libtarded.

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>>130476097
People given the freedom to do what they want just want to do drugs.

>>130476162
I'm gay and have no dad and I never have been a leftist. I may be an outlier but I'm not a stereotype.

>>130486588
>"only because the republican system of government creates, enforces, and maintains that distinction"
>This is what thoroughly brainwashed leftards think.

>>130476097
Yes. In school I was brainwashed to support Obama and think emotionally. I was full on socialist. I was only 11 and knew nothing about politics or what Obama wanted to do, yet here I was truly hoping Obama won and getting excited when he does.

Luckily, my mom pulled me out of public schooling and I got to make my own opinion. Ron Paul turned my towards Libertarianism, until I realized how retarded Libertarians are and started leaning more towards natsoc.

>>130476097
Gamergate

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Wikileaks Clinton Podesta

>>130476097
CIA brainwashed me through threads like these.

/thread

>>130476508
and kids raised on 4chan will be become autistic tranny neo-nazi's

I started to inform myself rather than let others inform me

>>130477321
>sports team do it
This is one place where we get hilariously backwards. The NFL and NBA reward loser teams with the best draft picks, and penalize successful, popular teams by limiting how much they can spend in a season with a salary cap.

Whereas in European football, the best teams can spend however much they want to and sign any youth prospect who shows an interest in their team.

I don't know how or when American sports became so hilarious backwards in this regard or how Europe became more market-centric than us but I people stop being so cucked about "parity" and just let some really great teams take the field instead of smoothing out the talent just for the sake of "competitiveness."

>>130487028
>muh cooties
Answer the fucking charge, you moron. Is it not fundamental to republicanism that there exist a ruling class with more privileges than the rabble?

>>130476097
I'm still guilty of pretending to be a leftfag in public around ratical Antifas.

>>130487557
Well, do you want a good entertaining game, or do you just want one team to win predictably? Guess which one happens when you reward the winners too much?
>hilarious backwards

I was slowly turning into a fascist after high school but wound up as a tankie before I realized how awful leftists really are in daily life and not on the internet.

Have since renounced all that, at least it kept me out of a pedantic Evola phase.

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>>130476097
Odd enough I have never had left wing beliefs even in my teenage years. I always saw the world as it really was not behind blue tinted glasses.

>>130476097

Yes. Identity politics happened. Now I can't stand liberals.

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>>130476097
I use to be your typical jew loving republican.
Not anymore.

>>130487557
And despite this, the same teams are always shit. Weird, its almost as if those shity teams have a shity culture.

>>130479838
Replace "white women" with "jews", anti-income tax, pro-UBI, and also add extremely pro-gun and you have me.

>>130476097
Still a leftist; just a racist one

>>130476097

A few relationships and a decadeish in the real world

t.former male quasi feminist and left libertarian

i watched sense8. that's it.

>>130476097
I used to be a communist
Then this man with a big beard told me about Islam

>>130488267
I couldn't get past one episode

Seeing the rise of Black Lives Matter is 100% responsible for my red pilling. I have to image I'm not alone.

>>130479371
the obvious interpretation of all those Yous is that conservatives have 2 or more functioning thus
because 2 > 1
and usually the number of neurons is traditionally associated with brain power, or lack of thereof, inversely
we conclude you're the moron of this thread
I hope this You is clear enough for the mentally impaired commie

>>130476097
>Sitting in creative writing class in college 25 years ago.
>I am attacked every time I say something
>A bit confused, I look at the other white male in class
>He gives me a limp wristed wave (that may gay years ago)
>Realized that we were learning white hate
>quietly developed my own belief system
>So happy other's are seeing it too
>worried because it has been going on for nearly three decades

>>130476667
>NAZIs did nothing wrong!

Strange flag to fly there (((Miller))).

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>>130476097
No, never.
Although i used to have less "extreme" right wing views.
Like i was more or less okay with fags, and i didn't hate nigs.
Still saw trannies as disgusting and hated sandnigs tho.
5 minutes through "black Twitter" made me want to lynch every basketball american.

Then i started lurking this place and the rest is history

http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13227540
Before thread dies.

>>130476097
I used to

>get offended at racist jokes even if it's true and not directed at me
>used to wish I was more race mixed (with azn not gross brown genes)
>thought multi culti was kewl and white people were boring/corny
>america was evil from the beginning cuz muh beaceful natives
>nigger culture was fun haha :^)
>fuck you hitler!!! Xd
>politics is boring ew religion
>never address the shitskin problem despite it being right there in front of me the whole time
>haha conservatives are so dumb

God I was such a faggot. I blame American school and media, 100% propaganda.

Still consider conservatives to be idiots though.

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>>130489144
we love you too

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When I first started caring about this kind of stuff it was my rebellion stage so I tried going against my conservative dads beliefs. I held on to the incredibly dumb and short sighted belief that people should be allowed to do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. After seeing how bad things have gotten I started to see how wrong I was. The slippery slope is real and we're on it.

>>130476097
I opened myself up to truth and rejected all delusion. That's not to say there aren't delusional right wing beliefs that some hold. But I reject all delusions and yet the truths I believe in are still classified as "extreme right wing" by the delusional leftists.

True right wing means accepting all truth, rejecting all delusion, and not letting feelings (more delusion) get in the way of logic (a form of truth)

>>130488111
That's pretty much me too. I've rejected all the neoliberal identity politics crap and pretty much the entire liberal social programme. Cultural critique is not a useful substitute for an actual politics, especially seeing (((who)))'s doing all the critiquing. I'm still pretty hard to the left economically yet hope for a closer-knit culture that's less full of fantasy nonsense.

>>130476097
I realized that the Jews are ruining the world and that liberalism would only result in total submission to the Jew. I prefer my freedom.

>>130476097
But yes I used to be very left wing and liberal til I was 19 and started my journey to escape the brainwashing that all of you are exposed to, most of you without even knowing it. You just become what they made you, with no will of your own.

>>130476097
Nice try ShariaBlue. Not feeding your deprogramming database.

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>>130476097
I used to not like catching fish and shooting squirrels because i thought it harms them

then I found out fish dont feel pain the same way with a hook in its lip to humans

And I also grow plants now and those fuckin squirrels like to dig through the soil ruining them.

So now I fish constantly and enjoy the sport, and I commence genocide on any fuckin squirrel within my domain.

also used to feels like arabs and mudslimes were just on the wrong side of the war under unfortunate circumstance, same with blacks and how the man was just bringing them down, then I stopped being a libertarian pansy and now see them as the inferior animals they really are.

>>130476705
Stop being such a jealous bitch

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>>130476097
Both my parents are left and socialist and naturally so was I. Bush was in for my late teens and early twenties and believed what Jon Stewart said about Republicans.
As I got older got more interested in Political Theory and even helped a Socialist get elected to Federal Parliament by volunteering on his campaign.
Read a book called Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein which is very anti capitalism and she told me about this supervillian Milton Friedman. I wanted to know more about this horrible person so I looked him up on YouTube.
Within 5 minutes I realized I was duped by the book. Within 5 weeks I realized I was duped by the NDP. Within 5 months I realized I would vote YES on most Conservative Bills being presented in the House. Within the year, Libertarian. Within 2 years realized the MSM functions as a propaganda source for The Left. Within Five years, I'm a Libertarian Nationalist. And since finding /pol/ I'm super pro-white, anti-race mixing, and although am still an Atheist have developed a deep fondness for Christianity as the basis of our civilization (although I'm more of an Ubermensch myself.) Yeah first pill was about 8 years ago, right before Obama, so I've been a force against the left for a while now.

>>130476097

Sure, when I was 12.

Only fucking losers have ideologies rooted in resentment.

>>130476097
I wanted to join the Communist party when I pre-registered to vote. Friends talked me out of it.

BUT THEN:
>Communism is retarded
>Socialism is ok
>Unironically a Sanders supporter
>Wikileaks happens
>Redpills on democrats
>Read some information regarding socialism, the Fed, and the Petrodollar
>Become Johnson supporter
>2 months until election
>Discover /pol/
>On the Trump Train
>Vote for him on Election Day, wear my Trump 2016 hat
>Day after, I was smiling my ass off. The Libtears are delicious
>Redpilled on the JQ
>My preferred type of of Govnt is now a Swiss Style Confederate Democracy with an emphasis on strong borders and a protectionist Econ policy (w/ a Non-Fiat currency)..

>>130478683
tell us more about your experience please

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>>130476097
My first coherent political belief was something like classic neo-conservatism, then I moved on to libertarianism. Where I am now is that I have realized that a strong state is key and for the past year i've been something of a monarchist. but economically I am having a hard time wondering if le free market will really fix it or if i'm heading on to something of a socialist/communistic monarchy as my ideal.

>>130476208
This

Left libertarian here (i just took a political compass)
i dont see how my views are inherently retarded
does the pol collective recomend any good political compass tests?

>>130476097
I was heavily involved in progressive political movements into my 30s. It all went south when everything became about identity politics and my only job as a white male was to "shut up and be an ally".

Essentially the word privilege pushed me towards the right and age, experience, and thinking for myself entrenched me firmly there.

>>130490565
I found monarchy to concerning, as undeserved leadership may spoil the wielder. I'd like something like FMA, where only proven military generals with 15 years experience are allowed to try and become supreme leader.

I hold a mix of liberal and conservative opinions, and I pretty much always have. The difference is that those opinions have changed over time, not really growing more or less liberal/conservative.

>>130476097
>How'd it happen?
Antifa and militant feminists forced me to begin my quest
Europe finished it
Once I swallowed the redpill I began to see the MSM for what it was.
The left has only themselves to blame for turning so many to the right.

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No, I was far right (neocon / cuckservative) but after a few years on /pol/ I pulled far left to national socialism.

>>130490901
Yeah, thats why I said somewhat, while I love the idea of a hereditary monarchy, having the family as both the center piece of the state and of society, it leaves too much variation in the upbringing of heirs, the wrong step and you got a physcopath/ ruler who's too disconnected from his people.

>>130490786
Go back to rebbit libtard

>>130476097
The lefties kept calling me inherently racist and sexist, so I looked into right wing arguments and they made more sense after actually reading them instead of just screaming at them.

>>130491332
>having the family as both the center piece of the state and of society
What would a royal family that is the center of society look like? Would it be like Peter the Great, where made Russia behave and dress in a more European manner?

>>130487566

>Is it not fundamental to republicanism that there exist a ruling class with more privileges than the rabble?

No it's not because that concept is universal amongst all political systems and naturally forming within human society because humans by nature form hierarchical social structures.

>>130491346
i dont think i would ever create an account on a site like that

>>130486592

>Hawaii has the highest cost of living in the union

Being dependent on goods from the mainland will do that

>Homelessness has exploded in even just the past 5 years and for all intents and purposes, this is a third-world country.

That's because Hawaii is a favorite dumping ground for homeless of other states.

So you're basically complaining about things that the state has no control over.

>>130476097
Leftist as a little kid that watched hollywood movies.
Real life taught me to be far right. Any other view is pure idiocy and unnatural imo.

>Be me
>Just learning about LGBTQ on instagram
>"hell yeah people are happy as who they are"
>convince myself im still republican
>slowly start to agree less on transgenderism than them.
>Realize their beliefs are idiotic and when i saw a post that was retarded actively debate feminist and faggots.
>This was last summer.
>Be me couple months ago.
>decide to browse /pol/ after seeing what they did for the election.
>Before this and after last summer i was a right libertarian
>now im alt-right and regretting trump.
>whoopdy doo
> Praise kek

>>130491929
>No it's not because that concept is universal amongst all political systems
Except for anarchism and its sub-ideologies, mutualism, communism,...
Also, even where ruling classes do exist, they can and have been organized such that they can be meaningfully disciplined by the population they presume to rule.
>and naturally forming within human society because humans by nature form hierarchical social structures.
No, they form them because those that don't fall into them are inevitably prevented from reproducing by the hierarchy. See also Jantelagen.

>>130484212
>All the juice
beautiful, the face!... first time I see that, laugh for while, thx

>>130476162
This. I come from a healthy family with two married parents of different genders as were their parents. Never had the urge to become leftist no matter how hard (((school))) shilled for being compassionate with Africa and stuff. We would get magazines in elementary school tellin us that brown children are poor and white children are spoiled so we should feel guilty. We had to take them home but my father just said that I could chuck them in the paper basket if I wanted to

>>130484271
>because the dreaded big government keeps taxing wealth away from others and redistributing it to your community is pretty fucking stupid.

So you're leftist because you're on the receiving end of the redistribution? Thx for the honesty

>>130484648
>AP Physics teacher, and emigre from the Soviet Union
Based smart refugee from communism. They've seen hell with their own eyes

>>130492583

Any ideology that claims the elimination of class structure is nothing more than pure fiction and fantastical. That will never happen in the human context.

>Also, even where ruling classes do exist, they can and have been organized such that they can be meaningfully disciplined by the population they presume to rule.

Pointing out the obvious

>No, they form them because those that don't fall into them are inevitably prevented from reproducing by the hierarchy. See also Jantelagen.

Being a part of a group requires conformity to agreed rules and standards, this is fundamental to social dynamics.

I don't see how anything you've pointed out is an actual criticism of a republican style political system.

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>voted for Obama, would have readily admitted the media was shilling to get him elected but I thought it was for the best, America was divided
>watch as the media does absolutely nothing but run interference for him, I had assumed they would hold him accountable as they had Bush
>Trayvon and Brown, watch as the media quite literally lies in freakishly obvious ways like Zimmerman being white and the child-like photos, the facts of the actual individual cases no longer mattered
>Gamergate, before this point I knew the media was corrupt but I didn't know just how connected it all was as well as just how much the social justice leftist viewpoint had come to dominate, this was like watching a conspiracy theory hold true that one could no longer doubt, it changes people

I was pretty much full blown right wing by that point. The left ultimately betrayed every single principle they once claimed to hold and once they were on top and calling the cultural shots they became a nightmare.

We really do seem to have no one of any integrity at any position or level at the upper structures of our society.

>>130481042
I always remind people that "mensa" translated to Spanish means "dumb"

I chuckle to myself every time

I'm still pretty left wing but I can't stand the fucking SJW crowd and their false equality bullshit. I personally believe everyone should have access to education and healthcare to start off on equal footing. The rest is up to them if they wanna fuck it up or not. I especially don't believe all cultures are equal and believe western culture to be superior though. Those are just generalities though, I try not to judge too much on individuals until I know them. /pol/ has definitely changed my opinions though.

>>130476097
I still score as liberal on political tests, I'm just a liberal in the traditional sense- not in the self-destructive, modern sense of the word.

The right wing beliefs I have are a result of witnessing how insane the world has gone in the past 10 years or so. Slippery slope is NOT a fallacy. Why would anyone ever stop trying to get more?

>>130494085
Pretty much me in a nutshell. Liberal is starting to be a dirtier word everyday since the SJW movement.