WT*F* IS GOING ON IN THIS GODDAMNED STATE, /pol/??

>>130475858
Not this summer, maybe in five years however. Once the welfare and food stamps run out prepare for a category five chimpout or a Detroit style collapse in Chicago

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listen to cpd and then you'll figure it out.....crime ...mexicants and coonery running a muck normal honkies just trying to live and make money

>>130475858
Lib shits took power in a state that wasn't already insanely wealthy so it became a trashheap insanely fast

>>130475858
The governor is playing chicken with some of the longtime people who used to be in charge

>>130475858
The only problem is that the Comptroller is a Progressive extremist and using her office for political purposes.

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>>130475858
Hmm, I wonder what they're paying for that's so expensive

>>130478297

>the Dakotas clocking in at two of the lowest three state figures

TRULY /ourstates/, /pol/!!!!!!

>>130477793
>used to be
I hadn't realized Michael Madigan died.
Madigan crashed the state budget out of spite for Rauner. The budged submitted to the house a couple weeks ago will be raped because of the man and we'll.be right back to square one.

>>130479390
madigan is unfortunately still alive.

>>130475858
wouldn't doubt it. It's governors and mayors have all been democrats with increasing regulation and social reforms over the years. Plus Illinois never changed from the age of the political machine and is the most corrupt state in the country.

>>130475858
this place is about to collapse into anarchy when the benefits stop flowing

Overpaid government workers and pensions without posting a budget in over three years

Meanwhile murders in Chiraq are surging to early 90s levels and taxes are fucking atrocious ($12 for a pack of cigs)
I give it ten years until Chicago becomes Detroit 2.0

>>130475858
FYI when this shit goes down the surrounding states big cities are going to get the economic refugees.

The state needs to be split in two states. Split off Cook county and let it sink so the rest of the state can survive.

>>130483219
Wisconsin and Indiana should build a wall now.

>>130483512
>Indiana should build a wall now
It's too late, "the region" already exists. Trashcan man did nothing wrong btw.

more than half of the population lives in the Chicago metro, making it unique compared to other states where one large city doesn't hold back the rest of the state

>>130484911
Curious, how does NY state's finances look? Are they as bad?

The fucking Powerball and Mega Millions lotteries are dropping them if they don't pass a budget by June 30. More tax money floating away.

Look at the gerrymandering of Luis Gutierrez's district.

>>130475858
You know we have a federal gov't right? And infinite capital.

>>130485253

http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-new-york-debt-clock.html

Upstater here, Jew York is a terrible state.

>>130475858
Anyone with some simple math skills under there belt knows there is no way you can run a budget when you are giving civil servants retirement pay after 20 years of service. Like the cops and firemen.
Many of whom retire when they are making 100 grand plus overtime per year.

It will never work.

it better stay alive till August, im going to lollapalooza

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INDIANA ANONS, STOCK UP ON AMMO
COME HELP BORDER TOWNS OUT WHEN THE TIME COMES
YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWW

>>130478910
Snow beaners and maplebacks likely underreported.

>>130482195
>$12 for a pack of cigs
Good. Those should be taxed to fuck

>>130475858
Democrat population.
Democrat state government.
Democrat city government.
Democratic results.

>>130485602
Seriously? I didn't know they could do that.

>>130475858
Illinois has the most corrupt political machine in the Union - since forever - how do you think Obama and his croniez made it - every single politician is corrupt - there are blacks on the south side of chicago who are trying correct the gang violence and the situation there but their hands are to be tied because everyone from the mayor to the council people to the police chief are crooked - it is like they want the south side of Chicago to be like that on purpose

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>>130478297
>study from a right wing anti-illegal immigrant organization
there could NEVER be any bias from an organization like this

>>130486111
Rochester here, I ain't going near fucking Gary, mate.

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>>130475858
Being a Missourian I'm kind of terrified of the collapse, because my state is full of charities and churches that give free handouts. They are already being abused and shitty people come here for the free gibs.

And recently all our cities have had a massive uptick in crime and they're all getting browner.

>>130486997
ya heres the left wing study
"we need mo money fo dem programs"

>>130486820
The Illinois Lottery was refusing to pay PB and Mega winners who won more than $25000 due to budget. Did it a couple times before but I guess the lotteries are sick of their shit.

The Cubs are 34-34.
Illinois is fucked.

>>130487100
Where do you live?

St. Louis here. We really dont need all those eastside niggers...

TFW you live in Chicago and there's a nigger infestation

>>130486073
Same here, you going all days or just a few?

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>>130487411
I live about 20 north of Springfield.

We recently just started having security guards and patrol cars in the parking lots of stores, because of how much more crime there is.

>>130475858
Don't go to the south side of chicago

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>>130487729
Damn, Springfield has a nigger problem now? I figured it was just Chicago and the surrounding suburbs. Then again I only come to Illinois a few times a year.

>>130475858
LISTEN UP!

I am attempting to start a movement to elect a Libertarian governor in Illinois in 2018. We need to push the party to run someone who isn't a retard and runs on a platform of anti-corruption.

We are the second highest taxed state in the nation. The reason we are bankrupt has nothing to do with pensions or any of the other bullshit they feed us. It's corruption, plain and simple. The politicians have been robbing us blind for decades, and it's obvious.

Mike Madigan has been speaker of the house for 40 years, working alongside all those governors canned for corruption. There is no way he isn't a part of it. His daughter is attorney general, clearly compromising any possibility of oversight.

THE ONLY WAY TO FIX ILLINOIS IS TO ELECT SOMEONE WHO WILL FIGHT THE BLATANT CORRUPTION THAT HAS BEEN BLEEDING OUR STATE DRY.

Push for a third party reformer in the upcoming election. This isn't some pipe dream, this is something easily within our grasp if we pursue it.

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>>130487032
>TFW you live near it, dealing with it every day

Pussy.

>Constitution of the State of Indiana
>ARTICLE 12. Militia
>Section 1. Composition
>Section 1. A militia shall be provided and shall consist of all persons over the age of seventeen (17) years, except those persons who may be exempted by the laws of the United States or of this state. The militia may be divided into active and inactive classes and consist of such military organizations as may be provided by law.

>>130476455
I hope it does go down like detroit. I have no vested interest in the state and this time around I would have the dosh to buy up dirt cheap property.

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>>130487834
Literally Chiraq man, already over 400 gun deaths there this year I believe, and it's not even July.

>>130483512
If you guys are white and conservative you can come to Ohio. Just stay clear of Cleveland and Chimpinatti.

t. Ohiofag

>>130486861
>it is like they want the south side of Chicago to be like that on purpose

>>130484911
Most smaller population states have one dominant city you dummy

>>130476455
Cental Illinoisfag here. Can't wait! Maybe then we can finally become a red state.

>>130487931
a Libertarian governor wouldn't fix anything family. Rauner is getting sandbagged to hell by madigan and and IL senate. He's trying to fix shit, but the IL legislator is so tightly controlled by the Chicago democrat machine that nothing is getting done.

You'd need to fully clean house in throughout the state in order to dig it out of this hole.

>>130487931
You don't know shit. Governor can't do squat. Doesn't matter who you put in. Get an IL Constitutional Amendment for short term limits and/or unseat Madigan and Cullerton.

>>130488526
Unless the lack of welfare literally kills every nigger there, i wouldn't hold my breath.

>>130478297
Fuck off with this immigrant hate. Mexican Americans produce infinitely more than they use up, and also whites are the largest welfare users in America overall.

>inb4 b-but muh per capita

Not an argument.

>>130488161
nah pal, only 294 deaths this year so far

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders

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>>130488729
>Mexican Americans produce infinitely more than they use up

Before my sides leave orbit, elaborate, leaf.
>for entertainment

The only thing I can think that they produce infinitely more of is KIDS

>>130488926
Crime. West side of chicago is littered with spics. They can be worse than the niggers.
>>130488849
heyjackass.com
>>130488729
are you one of those spics that just ran away to Canada when Trump got elected?

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>>130478297
You realize that's basically a population density map?

>>130488729
implying its only mexicans and not illiterate, toothless guatemalans, salvadorians, nicaraguans, etc who are shitting things up and taking money

We have no good official metric for how many illegals are in the country. Best estimates are 10+ million illegals. That's like a third of your country's population. They're here not paying taxes, using up social services, and saturating the job market.

>>130488926
lol they produce most your food if you live in the US dumbass - Americans waste more perishable food than any other country by a significant margin, we have more fat fucks than any other country (lets not bother counting Samoa), and Mexicans do all our agricultural production.

>>130475858
>red state in pic related fag here
I fucking hate it here. Going to SIU currently and plan to fuck off to Tennessee or Kentucky immediately after i get my degree. Fuck this gay state.

>>130489188
I produce most of my own food. Checkmate!

>>130488729

Whites belong here. Mexicans don't. Of course white use the system - they fucking paid into it specifically for that. Wait, are you going to claim whites don't deserve benefits? Are you one of THOSE beaners?

>>130489147
> heyjackass.com

it says 303 homicides, my source said 294, are we counting suicides here?

>>130488551
>>130488642

>Rauner totally isn't just playing political theater, Republicans are totally on our side!

Yea, check back to George Ryan.

A governor can do a lot. Besides Madigan is going to die soon (probably). Moreover a governor lasts 6 years, but the legislature is elected every 2 years. If a third party wins he can start rallying to vote in more legislatures now that the party has greater legitimacy.

>Get an IL Constitutional Amendment for short term limits and/or unseat Madigan and Cullerton.

You'll never unseat them. They have their precincts rigged hard.

But if you manage to flip enough of the other seats you can strip them of their power by making their party irrelevant.

>>130489316
lol bullshit. never seen anyone LARP as a gardener on here but I dig it

>>130475858
I absolutely hate the state of I******s. It's such a horrible state I refuse to even say the name. Whenever I see a picture of Bruce Rauner I just want to punch him in the face. He is a coward and deserves no respect. Don't even get me started on Pat Quinn. And the whole state is horrible. C*****o is horrible but downstate is just as bad. People look like they belong in the movie Children of the Corn. Today I found out they will no longer pay lottery winners. Even winners are losers in I******s. I hate how Lincoln is on their license plate. Hey morons he was born in Kentucky. I have never set foot in I******s and never plan on doing so. There is no history. There is no terrain. Everything is flat. A few days ago some downstate retard tried to kill several congressman. Everything keeps adding up with this godforsaken state. If I had to get rid of one state it would be I******s. There is no worse state. Can't forget about Dennis Hastert. The chomo was molesting kids for years. Former governor Blagojevich. Just another corrupt POS. Dumbass former Governor George Ryan pardoning everyone on death row. Republican or Democrat it doesn't matter. If you live in I******s you are a corrupt retard that deserved death. I******s worst state

>>130489188
>produce
You mean pick most of the food because they're cheap labor. they're spics

>mexishit vs muslim civil war

god please make it happen

>>130478297
Who the fuck is here in KY?? Mexicans?

>>130489427
it includes non gun related homicides so it may skew the statistics

>>130489495
Learn English.

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>>130489402
>Whites belong here. Mexicans don't.

Wrong sweetie, read some history. :^)

>>130488729
that bait tho.

>>130475858
ive lived in Illinois, in chicago and down my life. AMA

>>130489881
Yeah remember the part where we fucked them back to where they are now?

By that logic Germany still owns Poland and France

>>130489633
plant, cultivate, harvest crops, rear, slaughter livestock, precook (ie sausage), packaging, make up kitchen staff at most restaurants in America, yah more than pick. Americans don't do shit in the Ag. industry anymore. I ain't saying that's necessarily bad, just that we have Mexis do it all.

>>130489495
But I'm not larping. I learned to grow my own food in order to free myself from the need of relying on stores and industrial farms. I believe we lost touch with the land, anon. I take this seriously.

>>130475858
Which state is that?

>>130489810
learn how to suck dick better boi I want u to get your hands involved

>>130488662
Why do niggers always have to ruin everything? They're like a pestilence -- nigh, they are a pestilence upon this land. Everywhere they go, suffering and death is in tow.

>>130489881
Mexicans in the province of Texas revolted against their own government, and gave American settlers land if they fought for the side of the insurgents. A history lesson is much needed.

>>130490115
lol I have a decent garden, i'm a big game hunter, & have a hunting dog for upland & waterfowl but I still buy a shitload from the market because I'm not a caveman

it involves a town up north on the lake and a certain subsect of individuals within that town

>>130489881
And we won. lol

>>130487729
I live in a town just outside of Peoria. Thankfully, Peoria's finest generally do a good job of keeping the niggers in their own neighborhoods within the city and they usually just end up shooting each other.

>>130475858
What's going on is their criminal Democrat governors have been underfunding their pensions for decades in order to hand out gibs and get reelected.

Nobody noticed the accounting tricks until now when they ran out of accounting tricks and must magically come up with billions of dollars per year in order to cover the pensions. IL is so fucked they haven't had a budget in over 3 years, and their state bonds are about to be declared junk bond status.

This means they can't borrow any money and are officially bankrupt, as the state can never make enough money to pay back all it's promised as gibs. A state is not a city, so can't declare chapter 7 protection so either they must get bailed out every single year until eternity to cover the losses they spent or they will have to just restart and declare bankruptcy, totally fucking over every single worker in IL that will lose all their retirement and wind up on welfare.

IL is not the only broke state, CT is next except they have been trying to pawn off the debt on cities there in order to play the chapter 7 game but it won't work.

>>130476455

>5 years

They're going to be lucky if they can even keep schools open this fall.

>>13047585

If Trump bails out Illinois I'll not like him anymore.

I want Trump to play a violin while Chicago burns

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>>130490407
battle ain't over vato.

Mexis make up 50% of CA, and 40% of TX populations. Those two states alone make up almost 25% of the entire U.S. GDP - start practicing that pledge of allegiance in Spanish, cabron. We're comin for ya - before you know it you'll be having to dress up as a mariachi dancer for your tranny daughter's ¡quinceañera!

>>130487110
>The Congressional Budget Office in 2007 answered this question in the following manner: “Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants—both legal and unauthorized—exceed the cost of the services they use.”
>http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-immigration.pdf

>The U.S. Department of Agriculture states that, “about half of the hired workers employed in U.S. crop agriculture were unauthorized, with the overwhelming majority of these workers coming from Mexico.” The USDA has also warned that, “any potential immigration reform could have significant impacts on the U.S. fruit and vegetable industry.” From the perspective of National Milk Producers Federation in 2009, retail milk prices would increase by 61 percent if its immigrant labor force were to be eliminated.
>http://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2012-june/immigration-policy.aspx#.U1TfkfldUSt
boy that sure does sound like an 84 billion dollar annual bill to me.

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>>130475858
>mfw i grew up in chicago and i know this place will fall apart like detroit because of all the nigger that live here

>>130483512
Fucking this. Milwaukee is bad and only gets worse because of family members finally picking up their shit from Chicago and moving here. The bad ones get forced into Racine and Kenosha, but those cities are getting full. Waukesha and that entire county is too conservative to really let nigs in.

Given my morbid fascination with happenings and wanting to be in the middle of some rill shit, I'm really having a hard time deciding if I chose the best or the worst time to move to Chicago. Pray for my anus anons.

>>130489881
Yep, you're one of those dumbfuck beaners.

Cjeck your logic, stupid. If by some bizarre series of events (seriously, it's not happening), beaners get control of that much of the US - guess what? YOU get to pay for niggers, not us. And yourselves. Oh, wait, did you expect the freebies to continue flowing? Hah hah hah hah.

Dumb fucking beaner.

>>130475858
Former Illinois resident here
State is broken, Madigan and Madigan jr. need to be thrown in prison before any progress is made. How can a state with some of the highest sales, personal income, gambling, liquor and fucking property taxes still be bankrupt? Because we are blowing all our money on 6 figure pensions!

This budget crisis is just the new norm. If they don't get the budget fixed this next gathering Powerball and Mega Millions are pulling out of the state.

>>130491297
Sir, your burrito niggerdom precedes you. You're not gonna do shit. Also, we (IL) have Santa Ana's leg. Come and get it, little man.

>>130491297
You do not contribute to California and Texas Paco. Your people are dead weight on our system. You cost the US one hundred billion in welfare yet pay in only ten billion in taxes.

White people pay for you. Youre not even a man.

>>130490976
CA is very close to this, as well. Brown is frantically trying to get any new tax enabled to cover for it, and it's not looking good in Sacramento.

>>130491732
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Looks like we buttfucked Santa Anna and Mexico several times before and we'll do it again

>tfw live here
Fuck Chicago

>>130475858
Faggotry.

>>130491789
Mexicans are little brown chihuahuas barking at people through the window - all sound and fury, but no real threat.

>>130491900
Pretty sure he already stole all the money that the new gas tax is supposed to raise to pay for unfunded shit. It's only like the 3rd fucking time it's happened...

>>130491900
These demoniggers dont see at all that at some point the more you tax everyone the less good you are doing.

The turn of this century will change this country conservative for the next 100 years

I LOVE IT

>>130491297
>We're comin for ya
what do you we?
mexican hate mexican
especially the ones that retarded as you

>>130491209
Decades of corrupt liberalism can only be cured in Chicago by a complete a total bankruptcy settlement.

What trump will do is have Betsy Davos give students vouchers directly for school which will create charter schools and blow out liberal propaganda from schools and remove state control over funding/misspending.

He can also negotiate a bankruptcy settlement favorable to conservative sensibilities where cops and firefighters are paid and politicians and professors robbing the system while they double dip are not.

Trump will be able to make Chicago great (for the first time) through these bankruptcy negotiations it's pretty hilarious. Scorched earth final solution for the liberal Chicago problem.

>>130491732
That's señor to you cabron. And I might not do shit, as I'm from an upper class family who got wealthy in produce shipping and ranching enterprise. I and my dad were born in the SW, but I'm still mexi-blooded, and my family's wealth comes at the expense of those I share my ethnic heritage from.

But all that aside, hispanics are taking over in the SW hermano, whether you like it or not, and while IL is falling apart in shambles, CA, CO, and TX are thriving, and the hispanic pop is only growing. So... enjoy IL lol. We'll be slowly taking over the economic production and manufacturing hubs of this country, as well as the state level by filling up county commission seats, city counsels, district attorney offices, and state legislatures (as we've been doing for several decades, and which is ALSO steadily increasing).

But like I said - enjoy Illinois. I hear the niggers get extra violent once summer really sets in. Best of luck with that.

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>>130475858

https://youtu.be/JPncg5CBwhc

t. Chicagoan

>>130475858

Illinois is #5 of GDP in the United States.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP

Fucking hillbillies read Right Wing news and don't realize THEY are the shit holes of America. Fuckin' kek and enjoy death by opiate.

> B-but California

Fucking go-to line of the dumbest Trump cucks retard.

How many hydrogen bombs would it take to level Shitcongo before the chimpening begins?

>>130491900
CA has a new policy they started that will just take money from cities who don't pay into the pension fund like they are supposed to. There's a lot of broke cities in California right now because of it. Shit is going to hit the fan.

However CT is so far gone they are looking at junk bond status any month now too. City of Dallas also has problems from handing out too many gibs promises and will collapse anyday now but they are a city and can go chapter 7.

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>>130475858
>state budget deficit
Wrong, Illinois has no budget

>>130492201
This. Mexican crab bucket mentality keeps them from ever accomplishing anything - give one any power or success, the rest of them will soon be there say "ay, what, you think you're better than us, vato?"

And, never forget - the beaners that crossed the border weren't even good enough for a shithole like Mexico. They're the Palestinians of North America - nobody wants them.

>>130490407
>And we won. lol

Except you didn't.

The Mexicans are taking over America, in 20 years they will own ALL of the territory I listed.

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is /CPD/ thread going to happen or are we just jerking off?

Live in comfy area of Illinois. Yes comfy. Too far from cities. Near I 57 and I 70 meet up in the South

>>130487411
St Louis is a dirty nigger infested shithole

>>130492307
>my state has a high GDP
>fuck white people lmao

Wow really makes me think

>>130492382
Fucking sucks. I was born in connecticut, and I love the remote parts of the state, I'd love to live there, but the taxes and bullshit...it's actually better in CA than here.

Here's what kills me - CA is teetering on financial doomsday. And I read Friday, Hollywood has it's hand out for billions in tax relief. And they'll get it.

And they wonder why the state with the highest GDP is flat fucking broke.

>>130492307

They haven't had a budget in 2 fucking years.

Their GDP is irrelevant if it isn't allocated.

>>130489161
No it is not you dense fuck. You really think Illinois is 6+ times larger than Ohio? It is definitely a reflection of both population and how much of it is made up of spics.

>>130492307
It's truly wonderful that Chicago is a multicultural society free of hate. You should walk through oak field unarmed at night to really embrace the diverse cultures there.

>>130491789
Hey I might be hispanic but my padre and I were born here. Mi abuelo moved here legally before WWII and started a ranching and produce shipping enterprise. All of our family business' mid-level employees are white, and we have 1,600 migrant workers on our payroll seasonally.

However... whites are starting to lean more toward the "arts" and other gay careers, and we're seeing more and more hispanics like myself (although not as engrained in the upper class society, not having been raised in wealth like myself) who are taking white people's skilled positions because, again, educated whites are either leaning more toward "the arts" or other gay tech fields. Meanwhile, the natural resources sector is getting more and more populated by educated hispanics every fiscal year. Not only that, we hire illegals readily (as do white ranchers, manufacturers, or members of the Ag industry).

However, once all you whites realize "the arts" and the tech industry are gay, and realize that there's already (and increasing) a skilled labor shortage, and US citizen hispanics have already taken most the positions in natural resources, and that we like to hire illegals because they're cheap and our ethnic bros, you're gonna get cucked.

But don't worry hermano, I'm more than happy to let you come work night shifts in the asparagus washing facility once my vatos have clocked out.

>>130475858
I sure hope not, I live there!

>>130492423
>Mexican crab bucket mentality keeps them from ever accomplishing anything
yeah and it's going be like that for a while
i'm the only one out of my 26 who is in college right now while they're killing each other in the streets
and some of them didn't even finished high school
there's is a reason why they call us lazy

god damn illegals

>>130492824

I sure hope not, I live near there! Let them fester in their shit pile, and stop letting them invade the surrounding states with their Section 8 housing.

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>>130489587
>Illinois is all flat

You are forgetting the Shawnee National Forest faggot

>>130492887
I'm dead serious, my family business (which I work for, and will one day be the lead proprietor of with my younger brother) have 1,600 illegal immigrants on our payroll every harvest season, and we don't give a fuck, and neither do the white members of the industry we're in (because they do it too), oh, and also, neither does the state or federal labor board.

lol all the cucks since Trump won bitching and moaning about "the illegals! build the wall!" are being laughed at by the people who actually hire them, because no matter what you do, you'll never be able to get rid of the 14 million currently here, and we'll continue to laugh at you the whole way to the bank.

Deport em by the thousands bro, seriously. I'll continue to giggle at the white faggots who are so triggered by their presence, and it'll do nothing because - at the end of the day - the whites in manufacturing and the agricultural industry love illegals for cheap labor just as much as me.

So... sorry to tell ya this, but ICE can work double shifts and overtime, and it won't do shit.

>>130492719
Bankruptcy for CT and IL are the cure though, it means Trump and the GOP become the defacto governors of both those states and can clean house removing decades of democrat corruption like union laws barring new charter schools in Chicago. They will ve forced under bankruptcy negotiations to do whatever he says. All the gibs will get trashed and property taxes will plummet back to normal levels unless they relect Democrats to ruin the state again after Trump scorches it clean.

CA is fucked though it has just too many gibs and the massive tech bubble. It's implosion would fuck every market worldwide

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>>130488729
Because you say so? Give me the raw numbers.
>pic related

>>130493200
harvest season? what do you do grow apples, oranges, or weed?
I work in medical cannabis idk anyone other than me who gets paid legally

>>130493200

If you aren't Jewish or Mexican, then you need to neck yourself. I didn't fucking vote to bring you here. Your people are here to elect the Democratic party and nothing more.

>>130478910
N. Dakota fag chiming in. It's not bad but Fargo is getting all yuppie-fied. used to be about getting drunk and playing music. Now everyone one want to provwork that we are a #progressiveCity. season 19 of South park is happening to us. Please help.

>>130493156
Or the Bluffs.

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>>130492768
Leave, you wetback.

>>130493156
lol that boring shit hole has a max elevation of 1,000ft. Place blows, and the hunting restrictions are gay as fuck compared to the free for all regs in literally ALL of the 11 Western states (which also each have 10x as many national forests, state forests, and other public land). Shawnee is a weak ass national forest bro.

>>130487100
can confirm. drove to missouri for volunteer cleanup of the Joplin tornado and homeless bottom feeders from all over the country set up a tent city and pretended to "help" in order to get free gibs

>>130478910
S. Dakota reporting in. It is a very comfy state imo.

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>>130475858
Governor Rauner needs to remove corruption.

>>130493578
Pretty good for a national forest east of the Mississippi senpai.

>>130493365
apples, cabbage, lima, kale, peaches, name a state lol. We have 220 farms under contract throughout the SW, grow all kinds of shit. No weed tho

>>130475858
Rahm Emanuel needs to substantially decrease inner city crime.

>>130493463
I'm ethnically Mexican, so I guess I won't neck myself.

Nah you didn't vote to bring me here, my family has been here since the 1930s.

>>130493200
it's this sort of mentality-profit over sovereignty-that will cause a civil war.

I wonder how many corporate farm owner's heads we have to cut off for them to start giving a shit about their fellow country men again?

>>130493573
nah faggot - family has been here for generations, and I love keeping illegals on my payroll, just like the whites in this industry. Sorry princess, these wetbacks are here to stay.

>>130493688
fair enough desu

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>>130487100
I hope IL dont collapse. MO desperatly needs to fix their roads and bridges.

>>130493702
ah yea
I know lots of my trimmers are nomads and go through most all of that shit yearly, some are here on visiting visas some illegally but either way they travel around per-season for the under-the-table jobs

>>130493881
But seriously most of Illinois is shit and I can't wait for this state to burn

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>>130493843
The white man conquered you once and won't hesitate to do it again. Don't poke the sleeping giant, amigo.

>>130493785
dude ask ANYONE in the natural resource industry in the Western United States what the biggest problem they're facing is -- whether its mining, timber, agriculture, ranching, you fuckin name it -- and they'll tell you the SAME thing: (A) overreaching environmental regulation, and (B) WHITE LOCALS, young potential workers who grew up in that community, are not interested in these industries anymore.

There is a serious IR-tier labor crisis when it comes to young Americans. No one wants to work in natural resources anymore, we call it CEO-syndrome in the industry.

That whole "they're taking our jobs" like is fucking BULLSHIT. We'd LOVE to hire local Americans in skilled positions, but they're all going into "the arts" or tech or some other gay shit. Seriously man, the problem is white americans don't wanna do this work anymore.

So what are we gonna do? Jack our hourly wage to a socialist level in an industry where we already operate at 10-15% margins? Or, give the job to the mexican who shows up to work early every day and works a 14 hours shift?

Fuckin city types never get it man.

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>>130493747
And if they can't do it, Trump will send in the FEDS!

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>>130475858
Chicago native reporting in, I'm making the great escape; inside the burbs entire communities are organizing massive migrations out of the state to resettle in places with stable economies and less violence. I'm making the 20 hour drive out west to regroup with my family in about 2 months here.
Wish me luck; shadilay
>Chi-raqi refugee crisis 2018

>>130475858
niggers

>>130487151

Isn't the lottery designed to have self-funding prizes, plus some surplus revenue for the participating states? How do you fuck that up?

>>130494240
lol talk is cheap meth-baby. Been jackin the hispanic population rates all over the Western US uninterrupted for decades now. You about ready to squabble yet, or just one more episode of family guy and a couple more pizzas?

Mexis can sleep in the dirt, ingest 100 calories a day and a half liter of water, and work a 16 hour shift. Oh and we're used to shit talkers bro - we murder and fuck eachother up far more than some white fat ass.

>>130494395
where you off to? My family moved from the city to the burbs, and now our neighborhood is starting to get bad again. Who knows what'll happen here

>>130475858
Republican govenor

>>130494542
>we murder and fuck eachother up far more than some white fat ass.

Thanks for confirming your absolute degeneracy.

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>>130489881
I guess that means you'll have to give canada back to the French?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2a5CjKOTlg
The entire city's gonna become the south side as the police wont do there job as they don't want another blm riot.

>>130494664
we might be degenerates, indeed, but we're taking over the SW, and taking over the natural resource industry day by day. So, piss and moan all ya want vato, we're winning more and more every hour.

>>130494743
>winning
>mexican

Pick one, amigo

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>>130489161
Sure, but does that negate the 85 billion dollar expenditure? Nope. That number seems low.
It seems to me that 120 billion is being spent every year just on educating the children of illegals.

Reasoning:
If there are 30 million illegal aliens using the Pew Latino birth rate numbers for birth rates from 2012, 72 births/1000 per year and giving a generous 60/40 split 12 million illegal women 72 births per 1000 = 864000 births per year. Average cost of educating an American child = 10,500/year k-12 that's 9 billion per grade per year, or 118 billion per year just for education, if there are 12 million illegal aliens using 72 births /1000, and their children enroll in public school, using the average cost per child year. This does not include English as a second language teaching which is another 5-10k.

Even in a 10% sales tax, one would have to spend 105k to recoup one of these illegal children.
Just think every child costs the taxpayers an average of 135k k-12 what are we getting for our investment?

>>130494464
How do you fuck that up? Politicians, that's how.

>>130494792
hey we're taking over all these nice neighborhoods and industries you honkeys made for us (very nice of you, by the way) all over the SW US. We're gaining ground while the traditional American family dies off by the day. Pretty soon you'll be driving your tranny daughter to her social activist meetup, watching latino families go to church then watch the Broncos every sunday wishin you were invited to the fiesta.

>>130494743
>we're taking over the SW
Larp, larp, larping the night away...

>>130495037
Now I understand why they call you guys "dreamers".

>>130495118
dreamers are faggots. The only mexis I respect are the ones who snuck in here and take what they want, when they want.

>>130495037
Nah. I'll watch the Mexican women walk up the hill to their jobs cleaning white houses, as usual.

>>130491345
Stop posting propaganda

>>130495037

>Boasts about heritage
>Leeching off of wealthy white nation

>>130495201
I'm dead serious, my family business (which I work for, and will one day be the lead proprietor of with my younger brother) have 1,600 illegal immigrants on our payroll every harvest season, and we don't give a fuck, and neither do the white members of the industry we're in (because they do it too), oh, and also, neither does the state or federal labor board.

lol all the cucks since Trump won bitching and moaning about "the illegals! build the wall!" are being laughed at by the people who actually hire them, because no matter what you do, you'll never be able to get rid of the 14 million currently here, and we'll continue to laugh at you the whole way to the bank.

Deport em by the thousands bro, seriously. I'll continue to giggle at the white faggots who are so triggered by their presence, and it'll do nothing because - at the end of the day - the whites in manufacturing and the agricultural industry love illegals for cheap labor just as much as me.

So... sorry to tell ya this, but ICE can work double shifts and overtime, and it won't do shit. Especially when there's rich cunts like me who are (a) inheriting quite a bit, and (b) like to hire vatos instead of lazy white fags.

True, there are plenty (millions) of broke ass beaners all over the SW US, but they're the labor force mi amigo, they're 50% of the pop in CA, and 40% in TX (two states that make up 25% of the entire US GDP).

I just get to sit back and watch street signs and business names get more and more spic'd out by the week.

>>130494705
you mean Quebec? Not even french want those fucks

>>130495336
lol my family business has been in operation since the 1930s and we used to hire whites, until they got lazy and gay, now we hire illegals. Sorry cabron, snooze ya loose

>>130494395
It will probably self destruct before then I'd get out like tomorrow. Junk bond status is happening the end of June, then it's bankruptcy declaration and all the gibs are officially stopped. That's 2-3 weeks tops.

CT has until June 30 to find billions of dollars until they give up and operate without a budget like IL presently does. That gives them maybe 6 months or so until the noose gets tighter and they will have to seriously look at bankruptcy as their cooking of the books will scheme itself out. These Democrat tossers robbed all the money from the state pension fund and left behind IOUs, claiming future higher returns will magically replace all the money.

>>130495200
>criminal only respects criminals
do you ever wonder why real americans think youre trash?

>>130495441
Enjoy the state economy collapse.

>>130475858
Rauner is trying to force the dems hands now and just declared they will stay in session until a budget is created.

Midterms are going to be nuts here because almost everyone but a few Chicagoans know it's not Rauner's fault.

>>130495525
>lol my family business has been in operation since the 1930s

jew detected

>>130475858
I don't know part of me hopes so. Housing is crazy expensive there. The worst of the worst neighborhoods 600$/mo will get you a studio apartment that haven't been updated since the 80s and I have a job offer based in Chicago. I don't want to pay 2000$/mo for a one bedroom 600sqft in a decent area.

>>130495608
I never think about what real Americans think of me I just sell them overpriced produce and livestock and extort their gay little "traditional family farms" in security futures lol - it's fucking awesome

>>130495441
Whats the businesses name?

>>130495620
lol what state economy collapse? I do most my business in CO, CA, UT and TX - we're all doing fuckin great.

You people are retarded.

Chicago is just Detroit 2.0 waiting to happen. You learned Nothing from us

>>130495715
Whats the name so I can call a I.C.E raid on you?

>>130475858
That's what happens when you sell off your public works to your best friends for $20 and then pay them out of the public purse to operate them for you.
Privatization = corruption, sorry rightfams.

>>130495824
shit wrong guy

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>>130478297
> $929 million
God damn Dearborn, Lansing, and Grand Rapids are chucking us out of existence. We've got enough problems as it is. Ever been on one of our roads? Let me give you a hint, it begins with "S," and ends with another "S."

>>130495748
> give /pol/ fags my business name

lol I've seen how that one plays out, I might be hispanic but I ain't a complete fuckin retard

>>130495525

Yeah, alright, "lazy." They have a higher standard of living and can't live off of 12k/year. Must be nice to come from some sandpit shithole and arrive in the US where you can live like a king with 20 people picking apples and living in a bungalo. Stop shitting on the progenitors of this country that broke their backs to give you this opportunity.

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>>130475858

> Democrats run the state
> Spend more than comes in through taxes
> Has state workers pensions tied to the state
> State become in debt
> Will raise taxes to make it up
> People leave Illinois to other statesbecause of this
> Don't blame themselves for their problems

>>130495745

This is why nonwhites can't sustain civilizations.

>>130475858
What state is that

>>130495824
top kek amigo - we have ICE come through all the time. To be completely honest though, we had more ICE detention visits under Obama's black ass. But it doesn't mean shit, they're seasonal illegals, they're a dime a dozen (or thousand lol - sooo fuckin many)

>>130495441
Cool larp, bro.

Couldn't be a massive hangover from decades of Democrat Kool-Aide, could it?

>>130495884
Be glad we aren't Cali tho.

>>130496035
Illinois, home to Chicago (Obama's political base before he was President).

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>>130475858
nothing good, some liberal retardation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGZtkMS3sQ

>>130495929
dude I help run a business that's been in op since the 1930s. The reason we hire more illegals than whites is because no whites care to work in natural resources anymore. You have a problem with that - write some inspirational op ed for your local bum fuck wherever newspaper to try and "inspire" young white kids to not be such faggots and all wanna be CEOs and tech pussies. Seriously, whites are - inherent by going to American public school - way smarter than your average beaner. I am FULLY aware of that. But whose gonna show up for the 14 hours shift of hard labor? Not the white pussy. Sorry friendo. Beaners getting the job.

>>130496035
illinois you tard
its even in the filename

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>>130495884
Dearborni here.
>mfw qt girl from school is a moslem convert with half arab baby

>>130496029
Yah probably. And why smart minorities profit off stupid whites (who exist within a wonderfully organized white society - thanks!)

>>130478297
only a tiny issue
its actually their total shitty welfare and state programs
get rid of all minorities if you want but those things will still not work

>>130496250
>14 hours hard labor
That sounds like two jobs. Maybe you're not offering people enough to put up with your shit, Mr. Koch.

>>130496250
We heard you the first fucking time, LarpBoi. And it was just as boring then.

"Blah blah blah my family blah blah lazy whites blah blah"

Not only are you bad at larping, you're a fucking bore.

>>130475858
They've been shipping niggers to my east Iowa town for a decade now.

>>130496381
dude I'm hispanic lol - also, natural resource industry participants operate at 10-15% margins. SO, we can either (a) jack hourly to a socialist rate to coerce lazy white americans into working a hard job, or (b) hire the vato who'll be early to his 14 hour shift and make more than he could've dreamed in his home country.

> Mr. Koch

that's the best compliment I've received in a long fuckin time.

>>130495892
>being a larper online

>>130496437
lol I didn't mean to hurt your feelings so badly honkey, and I'm telling the 100% unbridled truth here. Take it or leave it, this is a reality queef in your face

>>130483219
Welp, there's no housing for them here in Detroit so

>>130496561
Or, just maybe, you could divide the work into two shifts and pay something close to minimum for it.
Or, you could charge more for your product.
Or, you could simply forfeit your fortune and your holdings to INS for employing illegals and the world will be better off with you in prison.
Your call.
Larper.

>>130488161
ayy lmao, from Cincinnati. fucking heroin/fentanyl capital of the U.S. nuke us please.

>>130496152
Yeah, you're right on that one. They're the American version of Sweden.

>>130496932
Fruits, nuts, and flakes is right.
t.ex-Californian

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>>130496250
Well at least you admit that whites are smarter than your beaner counterparts - you've certainly got that right.

I'm in the Chicago suburbs, where should I move?

>>130492750
lol

>>130496771
> divide the work into two shifts
lol if you know anyone in agricultural production or shipping, suggest this, and watch them shoot snot out of their nose
> you could charge more for your product
dude its produce and livestock, these values are set by the market, and we invest in futures securities - this isn't something you can just "start charging more for" lol, we're shipping to refineries and secondary exporters by the hundreds and thousands of bushels here, we don't work with some homo farm-to-table 3 acre veggie farm outside Boulder for fucks sake
> forfeit your fortune and your holdings to INS for employing illegals
lol tell ya what, when the bigger industry participants start doing this (who are all fuckin white) I'll consider it
> better off with you in prison
lol this is the best one yet - employing illegals does not get prosecuted often my friend, jump on Westlaw and run yourself a little search. So, i'll use one guy we have in our local plant as an example. His name is Luís, and he's an illegal immigrant from MX. Every year when we submit our tax forms to the labor div., we submit the social security numbers of every in-plant or annual worker we have. We know damn well he's an illegal immigrant, but he has a new social security number every year. Generation of SS#s is a huge "thing", and as long as it checks out, no one gives a fuck (INCLUDING the state & fed labor board, who have, in THEIR OWN records, this guy's file with a new SS# every year). So, if the fucking state and federal government doesn't give a fuck, why the fuck am I about to?

Faggot.

>>130489587
Spotted the Indiana trash. FYI Indiana is the stinking armpit of America.

>>130490074
where they are now.... we took Mexico City. where they are now is what we let them have.

>>130497045
>Cali cares about the environment
>Constantly lobby for Agricultural rights, despite having to consume tons of fuel and excess water to grow shit in Cali that could easily grow in Georgia

>>130487915
I live in Springfield. Moved to Rochester schools to escape niggers. Niggers are starting to move to the southwest side for good schools so all the whites are moving 10 miles north now building massive suburbs to escape the niggerfication.

Just this week niggers robbed people at the mall and pepper sprayed a 5 month old baby and the mom.

All the niggers here are feral. This shit is bad, All the whites are buying the fuck out of guns.

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>>130491345
-Not including education:
9 billion per year for the estimate 65,000 illegal students who graduate each year.
K-12 it's 118 billion/year. Using the 10,500/year average cost per pupil in the US,!118 billion: This is using the low 11 million illegal aliens and the low 17% below 18 demographics.
The milk retail sales are about 50 billion per year, so a 61% increase would raise it to 80 billion. That's only 30 billion.
So, we added 115 billion and lost 30 billion, so using that 85 billion in service, we are at 170 billion in the red.

I think that 85 billion number is a bit wishy washy. I would guess it's at least 255 billion.
If all food was to increase by 61% due to illegals being sent away we would spend an additional 360 billion.
So the real cost would be maybe 95 billion to the consumer, at $270 per US Citizen.
Would you pay $270/year to keep illegals out of the states?
Or continue to subside them to the tune of $728/year/citizen?

>>130488729
One ER visit offsets years of "contributions" to taxpayers

>>130497051
glad we can agree on something pendejo

>>130475858
The state government kept giving themselves pay raises and increased taxes on a population of taxpayers many of whom chose to leave the state. Now they are fucked. It's just politics as usual in Illinois.

>>130486569
Too bad they rob people to pay for more

>>130496634
*yawn*

No more (you)s for you, bore.

They will newer be as successful as Minnesota.

>>130490074
parts of poland and czech did belong to the german empire.. until treaty of Versailles that is.

>>130475858
entitlements are bankrupting them. They cannot even pave their roads. drove through the other day and the interstate is the worst in the whole nation

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>Live in Chicago
>Black Tranny Prostitute steals your mail

Illinois is literally weeks from collapsing entirely. The nogery is about to reach critical levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XeWPaNeKyM

>>130497660
Illinois here, watched my little part of the state, that I grew up in, get niggerfied.

It's honestly disgusting.
They build all these appts everwhere and cram these niggers into these shit houses like sardines, busing them all over the fucking place so they can displace the whites going to school here.

It takes no less than 10 years for niggers to completely ruin wherever they've been moved to.

>>130497978
lol you gave me a (you) just to tell me no more (you)s? You one gracious ass Burger-nigga

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>>130493468
I just hope for Fargo season 4.

>>130497445
>dude its produce and livestock, these values are set by the market, and we invest in futures securities
Gee, maybe you shouldn't have just bent over and let the WTO cuck you on COOL then. Maybe competition is pathological.
Cuck.

>>130492307
>muh gee dee pee

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I love this place tbqh

>>130498036
>drove through the interstate in the summer
>the roads were bad
No shit.

I think we currently have the most people leaving our state than any other state.

>>130498231
>COOL
lol we only do domestic shipping to avoid retaliatory tariffs mi amigo (remember when I said we ship to secondary exporters and refineries?). WTO don't mean shit to me.

I overcharge American secondary producers (who then, in turn, get cucked by labelling tariff reqs), while virtually extorting American primary producers on futures securities, while underpaying mexican laborers. It's all legal, and the American fucking dream.

>>130497097
The states with the least debt
http://www.thestatesproject.org/state-debt/

>>130498418
I wouldn't doubt it. I'm gearing up to leave this state too.
Illinois is for niggers. Retard ape state ran by a bunch of corrupt jews.

>>130475858
NIIIIIGGERRRRRRSSSS

Can't wait for the collapse of Chicago and the gradual redding of the state to join its redpilled midwest brothers.

Although I think Minnesota would unfuck itself first before that would happen.

>>130488729
GREAT RAKE WHEN

I live in IL, and I swear you cannot go a day without meeting a fucking teacher trying to get that sweet sweet pension shekels

>>130498527
Where are you heading? What's the next best state in the midwest to move to?

>>130475858
Literally all problems stem from Chicago trying to subjugate the rest of the state and the rest of the state trying to fuck over Chicago in response. Two state solution or collapse

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>>130494626
Wyoming is the resettlement state, Cody most likely. We like to keep to keep to ourselvesso I think we'll fit in just fine

>>130486861
Look at the murder stats from the mid 1960's on. Murder doubled when Daley took over to a peak of about 950+ in 1974(heroin wars). Then back down the roller coaster for a few years then back up to 950+ in 1992(crack wars). Then back down but still double what they were before the east asian smack. It's a racket and sooner or later they are going to have to cover their tracks.

>>130498798
Minnesota just wants those sweet DFL subsidies and protectionism. If Trump successfully reforms the Republican party, Minnesota will be red by 2020

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>>130488526

>half breed Mongrel state

>go red

faggot

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>>130493468
Nodak also checking in. Fargo is getting the leftover nigs from Minnesomalia. Stay west of Bismarck.

>>130499490
>drove through Colorado, Wyoming, S Dakota, and N Dakota
>saw no bison

still fucking pissed

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>>130499606
Try Medora or Jamestown. Medora has them all over the national parks. Jamestown has a park for them. They used to also have an albino bison, but it died recently. :(

>>130499606

Be happy you didn't or else you'd be stuck in never ending bumper to bumper traffic.

>>130475858


PRO TIP:

If you live in CHICAGO, be sure to move to INDIANA!

They have a great credit rating.

Oh, don't forget to vote DEMOCRAT, to repeat the process of corruption and bankruptcy all over again!

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So is chiraq the new Detroit? What major metro is next?

>>130499298
good luck bruv

>>130475858
Fucking FIBS don't know how to do shit.

They have a lot of corruption issues.

Chicago could have been great if they just let everyone open carry.

i only hope so. my feminazi shitter ex lives in chicago so I'm hoping she dies in a chimpout.

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>>130501036
>FIBS
Say that again you Wisconsin cow fucker

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>>130475858
CALEXIT 2019