Gun Crisis in Australia

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cucks

>>130466411
you're safer without them

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/get-psyched/201301/the-weapons-effect

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>>130466617
Maybe if you're a retard or a dindu.

>>130466186
Weakminded boomers have doomed this country to (((their))) agenda.

>>130466186
Impossible they made them illegal.

>>130466617
Not from the government.

>>130466617
>berkowitz
You trusted a Jew and you are no longer free.

260,000 illicit guns? Impossible! We have some if the strictest gun control regulations on the planet!

>>130466186
Australia needs more guns in the hands of whites.

It needs to be strengthened and armed.

>>130466617
But don't you feel less complete?

I hope my uncle doesn't hand in his SLRs. I don't think he will but he's getting older with no one to pass them off to.

This country is completely cucked

>make it illegal for people to own guns for self defence
>make it illegal for people to defend their own homes

Meanwhile the number of robberies/home invasions/assaults have gone up

I really despise the stupid seppo fucks who use us as an example of gun control, we've made law abiding citizens vulnerable to criminals

>>130466186
I thought you guys didnt have a gun problem. what happened to that sentiment?

>>130467602
why is your date namefag thing in yank order?
>>130467708
how are you going to fight the government? get real
>>130467918
why?
>>130468092
no
>>130468142
theres a risk that if he was to get burgled someone could steal it

>>130466186

Why would someone who is already breaking the law want to give up the gun? If they didn't want it, it would be easier just to trash it at home.

>>130468250

For some reason criminals are stubbornly refusing to obey firearm laws. They claim it makes drug wars and armed robberies harder without them.

>>130468218
Dude, just become a criminal.

The more crimes that go up, the worse that it gets, it feeds back into the loop making lawmakers realize "oh shit we fucked up"


That or into engineering and make a Sound-Cannon or some shit.

>>130468218
If you cant repel a few skinny 16 year old nooka nooka niggers from your home with a cricket bat, you deserve to get robbed like a cuck.

Guns are for the weak.

>>130466186
>Finally something is being done
kys

>>130466617
Hard to tell if you're serious or not.
It's fun to run around with rifles and handguns, you're self reliant on your and your family's safety, and at the end of the day you can sleep comfy knowing the government isn't able to do shit about you owning them.

>>130468632
lol those kooky criminals amiright m8?

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>>130466186

Didn't you guys already do this amnesty program?

>>130468743

Yeah when they come in with guns and machetes a cricket bat won't do shit

>>130468909

Yes we did, its stupid because actual criminals won't hand in their guns

>>130468909
>Do amnesty
>Make guns illegal
>People still have guns even though they know they are illegal
>Thinking that re-instating amnesty will somehow make these people turn in their guns

Hmmm maybe gun control doesn't work

>>130468743
This. It's pretty telling that most of the people complaining about home invasions are city-dwellers who shit their pants when a teenage African barges in. A sturdy bat/machete is all you need.

>>130468788
>It's fun to run around with rifles and handguns
because they're toys
>the government isn't able to do shit about you owning them
you can own them now, you just need to get clearances and have them in a locker

>>130468300
>theres a risk that if he was to get burgled someone could steal it

There's also a risk they culd just take his family hostage, rape, and murder them.

>>130468300
>how are you going to fight the government? get real

Shoot substations, engage in skirmishes with army personnel whenever they're outside their bases, attack oil refineries, kill power plant operators, conduct mortar attacks on government buildings, block the national highway system, start shooting anyone in business casual leaving DC, attack defence contractors.

How do you think the army is going to fight you when 10% of their smaller outposts (and communication hubs, which are even more important) have little to no power, their soldiers get shot every time they walk outside the gates to get booze, 30-40% of their jet fuel and diesel supply is gone, power stations are teetering on the brink of shutdown, every federal building is getting bombed, and they can't even send some humvees 100 km without losing 50 people in an IED attack?

>>130469174
>because they're toys
said man shot

>>130469204
only in the US

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>>130469137
or you know drop them dead so their friends tell others. a mans home should be his castle.

>>130468909
Yar, except this time they're letting you register illegal guns under your name (as long as you already have a firearms license) without charge.

>>130469317
Talking about the SLR's mate. We have to stop the guns from harming people.

>>130466617
>The truck contained either a .303-calibre military rifle
I feel pretty confident disregarding a study entirely when they're describing a Lee-Enfield as a "military rifle" because there can only be powerful Jewery behind that level of technically correct but entirely misleading labeling.

>breaking the law
>use a gun to do it
>now the government wants people to hand over the illegal gun or get in trouble

I don't understand the logic behind this. They're just going to keep the gun to keep committing crimes.

>>130468300
>how are you going to fight the government? get real

What a childish opinion. A bunch of rednecks with guns literally bulled the federal government into backing down at Bundy Ranch in recent memory.

>>130469259
>with army personnel
they're the people you will be against in your retarded hypothesis

the rest of your post is like a movie/vidya

>because they're toys
said man shot

>cant into satire

>>130468690
>"oh shit we fucked up"

you will never hear a politician ever say this. They are all psychopaths and don't believe they could ever fuck up.

>>130468924
I'm 6'3 and 130 kg. I'm pretty sure 1 hard swing to the head from me equals death to anyone.

>>130469467
wait I think I might have this all wrong. they are going to let you keep your guns?

>>130466186
imagine how much of a cuck you have to be to willingly turn in your guns during an event like this

new manchuria doesnt want guns in it because what if the laowai attempts to rise up against his new mandarin and canton overlords?

>>130469333
It's much easier to defend your castle if the guy invading it isn't carrying a tec-9 that he bought at the local walmart.

Doesn't help that burgers just seem much more paranoid and violent in their everyday lives.

>>130468300
Forgot this one too, which is really the most important:

If you thought the RoE in Afghanistan was bad, just wait until you see the RoE in America. Right up until 30 states have seceded and Trump is getting shot at every 5 minutes by Russian forces, the army will be basically incapable of defending itself against any rebels.

>>130469576
>they're the people you will be against in your retarded hypothesis
Yes, as in shoot the soldiers. Do you think that PFC Cunthead is going to roll out in full battle-rattle when he wants a fuck?

>the rest of your post is like a movie/vidya
No, it's not. The Americans can take basically anything from any country on the planet, but they are extremely weak to interior sabotage. Shutting down even half of the National Highway System will effectively shut down the military.

>>130469846
niggers use hiteks that they buy off the street, not tec9s from wallmart fuckhead

kys noguns

>>130466186
>people can hand in unregistered weapons without the fear of prosecution,
Fuck that. What r they doing? House to house search? Why is your government afraid of you? They won't be now. You're cucked.

>>130469846
except you know the part where criminals dont follow laws by definition.

>>130466186
unless youre a criminal cops will never find your gun

>>130466186
I wouldn't hand in anything. they have done this in south africa a few times and the fools handed in their guns.now nigs have most of those guns and use then to kill whites . canda is also pro disarming their people so they can cuck their people hard and they are powerless to fight back

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Where do I turn in my butter knives?

>>130469846
Rando with a Tec 9 is dangerous yeah, but I wager I stand a better chance against him with a shotgun in close quarters- far better than I would in a knife or fist fight.

>>130466186
>It is estimated that there are as many as 260,000 illicit guns in Australia.
But that's impossible, guns are banned.

>>130469174
>because they're toys
I've owned guns for over a decade and never once had a close call or injury from them. Neither have my friends.

That's because we understand what the guns can and cannot do. If you're safe you can still have fun. If you live on prison continent and are too young to remember gun ownership before your government cut off your balls then the only education you'll have on them is what they tell you.

Get fucked Australian. If you're content with being told you're not trustworthy of your own safety and you're okay with that then you're part of the problem.

>>130469651
We are allowed to have guns, as long as your licensed for them (eg for hunting, shooting, collecting, working). Generally bolt action rifles and non-concealable stuff. It all depends on your license class and what you intend to use the guns for.

For example, I've got a few twenty-twos and a Enfield for the occasional hunt out bush. All I had to do was get a gun safe and fill out the paper work for the license.

What the hand-in means is that if I, say, have a rifle that I obtained 'under the counter' without registering it, I can register it under my name during the period and not get in any legal trouble.

>>130468743

>elderly women and children are cucks

You sound like a cuck.

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>>130466186
>260,000 illicit guns
>260,000
pfft

>>130470106
funny point:
I got done for a flick knife when I was 17, the cops raided my house because they thought I was selling pingaz
the flick knifes spring was broken so it was really just a normal knife, I got done for having an axe handle behind my front door, a porno dvd (lol I was 17) and a bit of resin (i'd just cleaned my billy)

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>>130466617

>People act more aggressive in totally superficial ways when a gun is around
>Therefore being prepared to defend yourself with one makes you less safe

This level of stupid sissy cuckery is the reason our founders were very clear about saying SHALL

>>130470664
>translation needed
this is an english speaking board

>>130468743
>with a cricket bat
That's an illegal weapon m8, no such thing as a self defence weapon here.

>>130470390
nice! glad to hear it ausfags should be dancing in the streets. this is a big thing. you have just had something happen that increases your freedom. seems like every law these days is designed to limit them.

>>130469959
Leafposting at it's finest.

>>130470153
Ah, the 'home-owner will always shoot first and most accurately' meme.

I'm going to be honest, if you live in a place where you feel the need to keep a shotty by your bed when you sleep at night, then something is wrong with where you live.

>>130470788
cob, tis if ya never grew up in the yabba t'all
bloody yanks and their articulation

>>130470390
You Australians have still been cucked by your government and if you haven't noticed it yet, then you will in 10-20 years.

>>130470788
"pingaz" is ecstasy.

>>130470806
It's not an illegal weapon if you were just using it to practice your cricket swings indoors when Hijalajinanglangongish jumped in through your window.

>>130470929
You know the layout of your house, if you're smart you're going to be fucking quiet (so, given that they're breaking in, you know where they are but they don't know where you are), and you have the element of surprise. Of course you're going to shoot first.

>>130466186
i wouldnt trust them

>not supporting the most basic human right of being able to defend yourself
Who else is going to? The cops, if they feel like it?

>>130471140
youre a ball licker. theres good news in this thread. get the hairs out your mouth.

>>130471186
you don't even play cricket cunt, into the slammer for you

>>130471054
sounds like Irish, or maybe Scottish
both also unintelligible dialects

>>130470929
Cool mate, feel free to send me the cash to live somewhere else. Oh, and a job there too, that wuld be nice.

It's not a meme to say a shotgun is better than tec 9 in that situation, even if I dont shoot first. Tecs are small, shorter barrels are harder to aim. There notoriously inaccurate, especially when fired like a pistol as most bangers ar want to do. For them it's a good weapon, because they can conceal it easier and hide it in public. For me the shotgun just needs to shoot roughly on point and bead on easy.

>>130471265
Just ask the intruders to wait 5-20 minutes for police to arrive.

>>130470885
'it ausfags should be dancing in the streets. this is a big thing'

Not really. It's pretty minor, and the only people generally giving a shit about it are gun-fags that believe they 'need' an assault rifle to defend their shitty Melbourne studio apartment.

The Australian Gov is generally too incompetent to really be much of a threat to anyone, let alone it's own citizens.

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>>130471355
it's heritage

>>130471310
Of course I do! Here's the number of my coach, Mr White. Surely you've met him, he's your boss!

>>130471442
>The Australian Gov is generally too incompetent to really be much of a threat to anyone, let alone it's own citizens.
The niggers that it is letting in are a threat.

Ah yes, I will surely hand in my murder weapon with my DNA all over it, sure thing!

Cuckolds. Give us the right to own guns if criminals can get them anyway.

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>>130470466
>>130470788
>>130471355
ok, so now you guys have to bow down and worship me or something?

>>130471546
>Of course I do! Here's the number of my coach, Mr White
Everyone knows only indians play cricket.

>>130471533
well the drunkeness would also explain the Irish/Scottish thing

>>130471442
lol you couldnt even phase me. its such a good thing you have no idea. liberties are the most important thing. and your country is actively giveing liberties back to the people. I'm sorry if you think thats a bad thing. I truly am. you really dont understand freedom and its sad. your country has removed a restriction on your freedom and you are mad about it. you dont deserve freedom but the others that benefit from this are rejoicing.

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>>130466186
I guess that means the sheep are fucking you now Straya have fun with that

>>130471749
Liberties are spook.

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>>130471707
Tendulkar no.1!

>>130471140
Cool mate, guess I'll just continue to suffer in the tyrannical dystopia that is Australia for the next few decades then. Shame I don't live in the utopia that is the USA, eh?

>>130471361
'Tecs are small, shorter barrels are harder to aim.'

Yep, certainly an issue in your tiny and dark house, right? Kek, you'll probably just sleep through the entire thing and JaTyrone will already be off with your car keys and wallet before you even fucking realise.

>>130472013
I dont understand that reference. your going to have to force feed me the meaning I am but a humble american.

>>130472282
PUT ANUDDA SHRIMP ON DA BAARBIEEEE

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>>130472286

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>>130466186
>crikey I wouldn't be carrying this illegal firearm if there was only some way I could legally get rid of it
>plz save me, legislation

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>>130472561

>>130472282
>dystopia that is Australia
>can't name a single animal from there that won't kill you first chance it gets

>>130468142
Let him know you'd like them

>>130471546
>The niggers that it is letting in are a threat.

True, can't argue with that there. But until our vocal city population un-fucks itself, it will just continue. Gov is giving the people what they want, after all, it just so happens that it's listening to the wrong people.
>>130471749

>your country has removed a restriction on your freedom

It really hasn't. The firearm laws are still exactly the same, there's just a temporary measure that allows you to register illegal guns (that are allowed under licenses) under your name if you already possess a license.

>>130466186
fuck this gay cuntry

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>>130472877
goofball

>>130466186
Ausfailians don't value freedom, if the government decided to go full totalitarian no one would care, and most would go "she'll be right"

fuck oz politicians

legalize guns in oz

dont take that shit

>>130472282
>sleep through the whole thing

Never owned a dog lad? Those banned as weapons too?

Better chance for a shotgun to hit in the dark than a tec too, by the way.

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>>130472408
>Shrimp

They're called prawns, you philistine.
>>130472708

Could be worse.

At least our animals aren't armed.

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>>130470664
>pingaz

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Dont hand it in to the cops. hand it into the dealer and get more guns into circulation.

>>130466186
>browning A5
nooooo

>>130466186
Do you get any incentive for turning in guns, or just a punishment if you don't?

>>130473391
niggers shoot each other. they know beter than to try that shit in an armed neighborhood of white folk.

>>130466186
Look at that hoser's face

Even though he's a government official tasked with taking in 'illegal' firearms he implicitly feels like a badass holding an AR15. It's sort of like the feeling one gets meeting a celebrity...you're not famous by meeting one, but you're hoping somehow the famous rubs off on you. 'Hey facebook look....I'm with freedom'

>>130472286
The idea is liberties/rights don't exist, they're literally a social construct. Not a bad construct, but a construct nonetheless.
For example, you have a right to free speech right? And what exactly is stopping the government (or other powerful organisation) from shutting your speech down? Basically just the laws (which they can decide to uphold/change or not) and their good faith. You have no right to free speech, you have the government saying "I'm letting you have free speech".

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>>130473975
it probably took him all day to find that "assault" rifle for the photo op. you keep posting like this leaf, we might have to reconsider your cuck status.

>>130468218
Why not just throw spiders and snakes at people?
Yours kill as quickly as bullets do anyway and seeing as how your ancestors fucked over everyone else, it's the only option you're left with.
Be an inventor. Develop some sort of spider chucking device or a snake launcher. Be the hero your fellow shitposters need.
Alternatively just beat every one of your political leaders to death with a bat in their own beds.

>>130472282
Fuck up you gimpy glue sniffa. Not everybody is a standarded pool party melbcuck who loves diversity in his ass

>>130466617
The guy quotes statistics from his article that are way outdated, some from 1970 all the way up to 2007. The article was published in 2013, and not peer reviewed, so he should be taken with a grain of salt

>>130474184
this post>>130472561 makes much more sense. what we have here in america is the constitution. Its the basis of America. so many people died for this document. it would be stupid to think you can have america without it. you might as well destroy america and start over if you want to remove these rights.

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>>130466186
Thank goodness Australia is finally getting rid of the rest of its illegal guns.

>>130474965
he explained the meme, I was just being lazy.
if anything is subject to change, it's a spook

>>130473378
>Burger jolts up in bed next to 300-pound wife, as Fluffies barks up a storm
>Bed groans in protest, amazing that it's held up this long
>Burger-wife continues to wheeze in beautiful slumber, oblivious to the dog thanks to the handful of 'helpy' pills she took before bed
>Burger however is not as aided, and he jolts again as he hears a voice on the evening wind.
>"Ay hol' up"
>The hairs on the back of his neck stand on end, and burger grasps down to the floor for his boomstick.
>hand touching the cool, black rod, a smile dawns across his face.
>Showtime
>Bed nearly splintering under his bulk, Burger leaves the bed and hefts up his trusty shotgun
>Taking a quick breather as the barks continue and the wild niggering intensifies, burger wipes the sweat from his brow and raises the gun to his shoulder.
>Suddenly, he sees movement down the hall, and quick as a flash he depresses the trigger.
>Bang
>Burger feels an erection for the first time in several months.
>He hasn't actually been able to see his own penis for a few years now, but he can feel it pressing against his stained tighty-whities.
>In bliss, he continues to hold his trigger down.
>bang
>bang
>He sprays the area with his load, until he hears the repeated clicks of a spent gun.
>Lowering his shotgun, he smiles at the realisation that he has defended his home.
>His Castle.
>Then, the slamming of a door and a yell.
>"Ay boy, fuc dis house. Dis house cray-cray."
>Burger furrows brow in confusion.
>Not a single round hit?
>Stepping over the body in the hallway, he rolls it over.
>It's his seven-year old daughter.
>Well, at least he thinks it is, with no head it's hard to tell.
>Stepping over her corpse, Burger enters the living room.
>Fluffies is dead, cleaved in two by a shell.
>Worse, the TV is also dead.
>The unlocked door flaps in the breeze, no sign of the intruder at all.
>Burger shrugs and returns to bed.
>A man's house is his castle, after all.

>>130475222
no you dont understand it is not up for debate. if you want to change the constitution you need to destroy everything in america and make a new government. it is the basis of our independence. you cant just fucking change it. to do that you would be creating a huge group of felons that have otherwise not done anything wrong. Its asking for war.

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>>130475589
>a new government

>>130466186
guns don't kill people, niggers do

>>130474965
>what we have here in america is the constitution
You have the 2nd amendment right? The right to own guns shall not be infringed and all that.
Guns are basically banned in most major cities in America and are banned in government buildings iirc.
You have a trial, right? What's stopping the government from just abducting you and locking you up somewhere (like they've been accused of in the past)?
The fact it's possible for unconstitutional actions to happen means the rights don't exist.
Maybe this would be clearer: if you have a sign on the wall saying "no smoking" the only thing stopping me from smoking is my compliance.

>>130476003
>You have a trial, right?
*right to a trial

>>130475870
you will need to fight for it. you will not get it by creating felons out of good people that have worked and paid taxes their whole lives to support the government. nobody is going to let that happen other than liberal communists. they want to control the people. they will have to fight tooth and nail for it. I dont think they care that much. but if you try to steal peoples freedom you will be shut down. I know you want all gun owners put in jail. well thats fine. come and get it.

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>>130475589
>no you dont understand it is not up for debate. if you want to change the constitution you need to destroy everything in america and make a new government.

The first step would be fucking flattening DC and getting rid of all that jewish masonic GARBAGE they pay tribute to with their fancy faustian broken pentagram streets and shit.

filthy fucking kikes have invaded everything.

>>130476003
then go on, comply with the rules you cuck

>>130476396
You seem to think you can argue for your piece of paper to be magic. It's just a piece of paper m8. The fact people agree with its rules is irrelevant.

>>130476738
come and get it. see what happens.

>>130476813
Threatening me with violence doesn't change the fact it's just a piece of paper.

>>130476738
You're missing the point entirely. The paper doesn't give us the rights. It acknowledges the rights and commands the govt to recognize them. It isn't rules for us. It's rules for the federal govt.

>>130476998
come tear it up man. lets do it.

>>130468218
Im wondering, if you owned an illegal gun and used it to defend yourself and shot and killed Jamaal and DaQuan as they were committing a home invasion robery on your home, what legal consequences would you face?

>>130468218
It always the same, if you have the chance buy even more guns. They did the same thing in Brazil.Murders and crimes got way up since then, while you can still buy a gun legally its a very cost, time consuming process and in the end a bureaucrat gets to decide if you can or cannot buy it (this leads to same bizarre scenarios, for example here a guy tried to buy two guns but it was denied because "a human begin only have two hands").

>>130476738
correct. there are also people who disagree with the rules, and there will be people who disagree with any supposed new rule in the future. no matter what measures anyone takes there will always be supposed "law breakers". if someone wants something done or just wants something period, if determined, they'll get it.

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>>130466186
Get one of this, cut it and make it a gun and ammo storage. Cover all the gunsa and ammo with Hermetically sealed bags.
Bury somewhere close to your house, not to close so no one can find it in a house search.

>>130477407
A 55 gallon drum with a removable lid would be easier. Still bag them up. But if Shtf you don't have to dig the whole thing up.

>>130469648
Better have a 20 ft long cricket bat.

>>130469576
You dont fight them straight up. Blend in with the general populace and shoot them in their homes, at their offices, at the groceries, etc etc

>>130477090
But that states it even clearer, if you had rights you wouldn't need to command the government because they simply wouldn't be able to act against them. In reality the people agreeing on a set of rules is what's giving you "rights". Go to England if you think you have a right to bear arms. Go call the holocaust a hoax in Germany if you think you have a right to free speech.

>>130477159
Not being able to understand abstract thinking is a sign of low intelligence. Or autism, one of the two.

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This country is a fucking joke. Criminals are not going to hand in shit. The only people who will hand in guns are average law abiding citizens who still have grandpa's old rifle laying around. So they will literally hand over their history to be destroyed by the state.

Fuck this country.

Unpopular opinion time:

Australia's gun ban caused violent crime to drop.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

>>130477407
>Cover all the gunsa and ammo with Hermetically sealed bags.

Fucking remember to grease them up AND have dessicants in there too you dumb fucks.

>>130477934
you are a goofball if you think I mean that I would only kill you if you actually tear up the actual constitution of the united states.

>>130478344
>snopes

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>>130478344
It did?

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>Government brings in muslims and niggers
>muslims and niggers obtain illegal firearms
>crime rate soars to levels never before seen in this country due to muslims and niggers
>punish white people

When are white people going to wake up? I think never.

>>130477934
Doesn't that go likewise then as well? If the government has no obligation to act on the rules they set up, then neither does any of it's constituents. The people in England are told they cannot bear arms, but in reality they can. Same as free speech in Germany, most of the Germans on this board would call the holocaust a hoax. You're correct in the fact that no one has a right to anything, but that works in all directions

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>>130478523
>>130478487

>>130468743
>>130469137

This actually demonstrates that you have no sense for righteousness and are an utter pleb that should commit suicide ASAP.

Lets play along with your cucked school of thought:
Your thinking would create and already creates a system that puts a criminal above the law abiding. Such systems MUST and WILL fail.

Why is that? Because you prohibiting guns, while guns being the most effective tools to stop human threats, means that you force innocents to either subdue to crime OR to take an much higher risk by defending their rights.

You must be a disgusting subhuman to think this is a just system.

Tie your gun to a kite and pay a local abbo to keep it flying for a dollar a day.

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>>130478776
America's crime rates fell along with the rest of the world, despite gun ownership increasing

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>>130478344
>snopes
>legitimate source
Dude, this is as shit tier as citing InfoWars. Try again.

Why are Australian's so cucked when it comes to guns?

>>130466186
>Australia announces national gun amnesty

Thousands of antique flintlocks, pistols, percussion muzzle loaders that should be in museums get cut up to satisfy public hysteria.

Again.

>>130477934
>you don't have rights if the government can violate them

Even if the government tries to violate the right to bear arms, its historical legacy cements it as the law of the land with authority beyond that of the US government or any individual. As US citizens, we are obligated to remove any government that tries to bypass the bill of rights. We guarantee our rights, even if the government doesn't.

When something is only guaranteed by the government/laws, then it's not a right -- it's a privilege. If most of your countrymen believe that rights derive from the government and not the people, then you do not live in a free nation. If your people lack the ability to defend their rights against enemies both foreign and domestic, then you do not live in a free nation.

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>>130479033
Well run government brainwashing

>>130478373
I will kill you if you tear up our constitution.

>>130479033
>Why are Australian's so cucked when it comes to guns?

It is quite recent. Its a warning to the rest of the world on how this shit progresses

It is illegal to have a dennis the menace slingshot in half of australia. True

>>130479187
That's illegal though anon, and the government might retaliate against you

>>130478751
It does. Rules only really exist when someone's willing/able to enforce them. The ongoing european/american invasions are probably the best example of this, they enter illegally yet the governments don't care so they're treated as legal citizens.

Current state legislations and weapons acts for each Australian state so you can determine whether your knife or slingshot for example is legal in your state.
QLD: Slingshots are currently available for sale, however you must be over 18yrs of age to purchase.
QLD Weapons Act
Weapons Categories Regulation
NSW: Slingshots are illegal in NSW and can't be sold (with exception for Pocket Shot Slingshot as it is not 'y' frame).
NSW Weapons Act
Schedule 1 - Prohibited Weapons


ACT: Slingshots are currently available for sale, however you must be over 18yrs of age to purchase.
ACT Weapons Act
ACT Prohibited Weapons Act - Schedule 1


VICTORIA: Commercially made complete slingshots are considered a prohibited weapon.
VIC Weapons Act
Control of Weapons Regulations 2011


TAS: Slingshots are legal in Tasmanian as long as they are used on private property (Confirmed by contact at http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/ImportingWeapons-PoliceCertificationTest.pdf)
TAS Weapons Act


SA: Slingshots are considered a Dangerous Article, and exemption must be presented.
SA Weapons Act
SA Weapons Regulations

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>>130466186
Come on, Aussies. You know how to respond to this. You know what to do.

>>130466186
I can think of nothing more cucked than just rolling over and giving your weapons to the (((people))) in charge.

>>130479342
go against the constitution die just like the rest.

>>130479033
The politicians refuse to listen to the people. You can vote in whoever you want but most of them won't enact what you want short of nudging taxes around.

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SLINGSHOT AMNESTY

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And WHY THE FUCK are your laws so draconian? What the hell

Last year in Hamburg a resident shot one of 2 home invading niggers dead with an illegal gun and got something like 6 months on probation or a small fine for illegal possession of firearms but the selfdefense in itself was okay.

>>130479355
And in response there has been a rise in militias who have agreed upon these laws and are enforcing it. In the US, there is a federal effort from the letter agencies to curb the numbers, but in general they will never stop coming over. As with drugs, firearms, and slaves. Laws are meaningless, and power is a construct. The only meaningful power lies with the people who have the means to enforce such power, whether through force or through agreement

>>130466186
goddamn gun grabbing kikes.

>>130478344
Violent crime victimization rates are easily available from 1996-2009+

The fact is for 5 years after the laws were enacted violent crime went up exponentially, it outstripped population growth and peaked in 2001 the biggest contributor to the decline after 2001 was the crackdown on particularly NSW's drug epidemic.

More people were kidnapped, sexually assaulted, assaulted & robbed after the laws were enacted and violent crime has gone down with drug use & drug supply, according to government investigations & reports into violent crime.

>>130479033
>>130479557
To expand on this, there was this survey done a few months ago asking if you wanted muslim immigration and something like 80% of people said no. Of course politicians jumped on air to quickly denounce this as racist because they'll defend everyone.

>>130469501
LOL by that logic a musket is a military rifle because the military used it at one point.

Kikes

>>130469648
cringe

>>130466186
>be inbred Aussie
>some guy with an IQ of 60 manages to kill 18 people with 17 headshots firing from the hip in 19 seconds
>I being the inbred drunk actually believe this
>roll over like a true bitch when the government comes for my firearms
>o-oh well guys at least I can shitpost
>get arrested for hate speech

>>130480188
assie cunts are the worst people

>>130473471

I support this wholeheartedly.

>>130466414
this explains why the hold-ups in this country are done with shitty old farm guns.

the gun ban worked.

>>130479091
How about this scenario (that's slowly happening), your "rights" are redefined. The right to free speech is slowly being changed to the point where some people legitimately believe "hate speech" isn't covered under free speech, right to bear arms is being taught to kids that it's only referring to militias.
Stopping the redefinition is on the people, but should you fail then the right disappears so it was never there to begin with.

>>130470664

I got stopped with a buttetfly knife and about a gram of weed as a kid. They tipped the weed in the drain and confiscated the knife. I didn't bother enquiring about the legal status of the knife since I just didn't want them to tell my parents.

>>130479187
Did you just threaten to kill yourself?

>>130478288

Mate,anyone who does not listen to the MSM is aware of this. In my state it is fucking illegal to possess stab vests and other body armour.

Its illegal to own a gun for self defense and you cannot even own armour to protect yourself from someone who uses a gun or knife on YOU.

I fucking hate my country. I love how all the politicians have armed body guards surrounding them though.

>>130480858
are you gay?

>>130466186
Wasn't aussieland supposed to have "really good gun control" because "they're an island so can easily prevent smuggling?"

>>130479846
>tfw no fascist white ethnostate so your laws are enforced through both power and agreement

>>130480749
You seem to be arguing semantics. Is there any underlying implications to what you are saying, or are you just debating for the sake of debating?

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>>130466186
this is retarded, do they really think criminals and terrorists are just gonna hand them in?

>>130481184
Yeah it's following the whole rights are spook thing.

>>130481186
No, they don't. They know good people will though. Just further disarm the public.

>>130478344

Already debunked.

Crime continued to decrease at the same rate prior to and after the gun ban.

It had no impact on homicide or violent crime rates.

Makes me wonder what the fuck was going on back in the 70's.

>>130481389
That's something I can agree with, but you're not going to convince the average American that the Constitution (especially the bill of rights) are not god ordained written pieces of paper that will burn anyone who defiles it. You could say people can retaliate, but I believe that hinges on the accepted culture of the time (which does change).

>>130481766
Where is your source for this?

>>130479050

Meanwhile Achmed imports 1000 Glocks in the mail from his cousin in Austria alongside a few kilos of cocaine.

>>130477184

you tell the cops you ripped then out of jamal's hands and shot him with it, and thank god he was a moron enough to let me do that.

and then turn over the gun to the cops.

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>>130470106
>prohibited weapon: body armor

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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fuck john howard ;)

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>>130470106
>>130482511
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/176069/Prohibited_Weapons_Schedule1_April_2012.pdf

>>130479718

Our laws are fucktarded.

One drug dealer got arrested here and successfully he needed his illegal handgun for self defense because his life of crime made him a vulnerable member of society.

We had another famous case where a drug dealer was stripped naked, shot point blank in the back of the head and thrown off a cliff.

Self defens because he joked about raping another drug dealers wife.

Anyone have any opinions on the stats of crime continuing to decrease, firearm ownership increasing yet it's almost illegal for people to use them for self-defense?

Violent crime went up following 1996, but now in recent years it's be going down nominally despite population increases. Are we really becoming more peaceful? Are the cops doing a better job? Do they change measuring methods?

>>130481843

On phone at work. You can google it all.

From the Australian government;

>The percentage of homicides committed with a firearm continued a declining trend which began in 1969. In 2003, fewer than 16% of homicides involved firearms. The figure was similar in 2002 and 2001, down from a high of 44% in 1968.

>>130469648

*teleports behind you*: the post

>>130482954
Most skinny aboriginal and somalian teens get their shit bashed in, it's why they do home invasions on grannies.

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>>130475044
>crime rate already going down
>government does something
>crime rate keeps going down at the same pace it did before

Wow gee, thanks for literally doing nothing productive and taking credit for it.

>>130482954

Abortion and Lead I guess.

Homicides have been a continuous decline since the late 60's.

I know in the U.S. Abortion + Better Policing (offender databases and identification) + Long Jail Sentences + More Jailing lead to their decrease.

>>130466186
LOL Ausbongs are just a prison colony.

This is equivalent to shaking down cells at a prison.

Canada is more an anglo home than your awful, death filled island. Just be happy you're labeled a continent and Mad Max comes from you.

Hope you don't fall for this shit roo-bros

>>130466186
how do you say what problem in strine

>>130466186

>Finally something is being done.


Yeah. Your country is being driven further down the cuck hole.

>>130469648
what a manlet chump im 6-4 and 131 kg try it faggot

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>>130466186

My god, i want to be an american. Cozy little house innawoods... sitting on the porch, crickets chirping, burgers on the grill, some beer, do some shooting with my AR15 .22.

That is literally my dream. Yet, it will never be. Forever trapped in this hellhole.

goddammit.

>>130484697
fuck ya on about cunt?

>>130479420
Fuck you ya dirty potato legged cunt

Northern Territory commin at you

naaaaaahhhhhhh gammon ey deadly cunt

>>130474939
>not peer reviewed
When it comes to anti-gun garbage peer review is mostly worthless. They gave up on the legal/2nd Amendment approach and now push it as a "public health" issue. Most people in public health are socialist control freaks so it's no duh they'd sign off on anything that is pro gun control.

>>130479148
>using that knife to butcher an animal

Jesus christ australia, that's clearly an emu felling knife.

If I ever go overseas, I'm going to play airsoft.

>>130484904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsgRtg3vsQ8
You will never get to be part of this culture.

>>130485908
My friend married a Strayan and when he and his friends came over the wedding this is literally all we did. We shot guns at the farm and they bought BB guns and shot them at each other in the parking lot of the store.

I'm sure the criminals will be rushing over there to get their face recorded and put into a database.

>>130480749
Framers of the constitution are on record saying that the militia refers to the whole of the people, so there's a clear line-in-the-sand there. I'm also fairly sure a massive number of gun owners consider mass confiscations or a nation-wide amnesty (like Australia) as the absolute last straw.

Free speech is protected so long as the words present no immediate threat, and we also have a very clear list of Supreme Court cases that more clearly protects a wide swath of speech. The line in the sand for free speech is when the government begins arresting people for speaking their opinions. If someone gets arrested for a facebook post saying that refugees are dangerous, like in Germany, then the government needs to be actively fought against in that regard.

>>130466186
> 260000 guns
That is almost the number of guns the buyback program collected after the ban.

>>130481790
The moment the average US citizen stops caring about the constitution is the moment the nation dies. Both literally and figuratively. People that have no appreciation for liberty will likely see the government as a means to obtain material wealth. The nation will max out on gibs until we go full Venezuela and start rationing toilet paper.

The only positive side to the scenario is the fact that our suffering will be brief, and once the nation completely and utterly collapses, we can rebuild a functional society.

Fortunately, that's at least 50 years down the road for the US, and plenty of Eurotrash countries will serve as canaries in the coal mine.

>>130489456
The government doesn't like mentioning that the majority of guns were not handed back in. There are like 3 million+ guns in Australia not registered at least. Though I'm sure 1/3 of them are not in good condition by now.

>>130489743
I've also heard your bikie gangs are having fun manufacturing stens.

Cucks. That is all.

>>130466186
Can I have one

>>130489743
>Though I'm sure 1/3 of them are not in good condition by now.
Gun + Desiccant + Cosmoline + plastic wrapping + PVC pipe + PVC pipe cap = a gun that will outlast entire generations, buried in the middle of a lake.

>>130471361
>blaming others for not being successful enough to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and make it rich.

You sound like a dindu or a leftist

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Any america here is allowed to laugh. I fucking hate this shit, I want to protect my fucking home, my family. Fuck this government, fuck the feminists and jews here. THEY RUINED EVERYTHING!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVdaP6FvFQ
REE YOU MOTHER FUCKERS RUINED PARADISE!

>>130466617
Bitch, cars kill more people in the USA than guns and more than 2/3 of our gun violence is just suicide (CDC shit from 2015).


I'm more likely to be killed by a car than a gun in the USA and we have more guns than people.


Seriously, fuck you cucks. I hope your government shows you why we keep our guns one day through martial law or creating unjust laws...what you gonna do about it? Oh wait, you're cucked. Shit, guess you gotta roll with it.

Oh, wrong think about Islam or other religion. Too bad they don't have to listen to the pleases of the cucks since they've neutered themselves.

>>130471533
>a communication expert
>a
>one

i, for one, think that sounds like a bunch of opinionated shite designed to harm the Australian identity

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>>130466617
>Australian education

HAHAHAHAHAH

>>130468743
>>130469137

>Only men should be allowed to defend themselves

Yeah nah cunt sorry. But I don't want my gf to get raped as she's out buying groceries you fucking cunts.

I've spoken to it about with her and she has massive fears of muslims gangs. And she wants to buy a handgun and keep it in her handbag, but it's fucking illegal to do so. She fucking has a panic attack every time she seens a van or a truck on a suburban road now because of all the muslims running people over.

Guns need to be made legal.

>>130467887
Most of them are probably left overs from the howard buyback. Tons of cunts just burried their shit.

>>130493862
I'd take kicking muslims, niggers and chinks out over guns any day.

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>>130466186
>dumbshit liberals are point at australia as a positive outcome to a sweeping gun ban
besides, making one is easy

>>130468690
That doesnt work. Crime goes up and we just lose even more rights. Look at europe ffs. I swear thats the main reason they import shitskins, they know crime rates will skyrocket and they can institute their distopian laws.

>>130494053

I'd take both. Why pick one you fucking idiot.

Do you realize if we had guns, we could just kick muzzie scum out ourselves right? We are only harmless and weak because our government made us that way. If we had guns, the government would be our little bitch. They'd be much more afraid of us, and they'd pay attention to us more and stop fucking us over so hard. The government should fear the people.

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>>130466617
>Berkowitz

You fell for the jew.

>>130471442
>The Australian Gov is generally too incompetent to really be much of a threat to anyone, let alone it's own citizens.

This is the worst meme. I am 100% certain our government puts forth this image purposefully so that people don't suspect them of fucking us over as hard as they do.

The Australian government is only incompetent at running the country TO THE BENEFIT of the citizens. They are AAA grade masters are fucking over the populace though. Don't confuse them.

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>>130470106

Prohibited Weapons:

Laser pointer

LASER POINTER

> LASER POINTER

L A S E R P O I N T E R

P R O H I B I T E D

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>>130468218
word. stats straight from your own gov

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>>130469137
>>130469137
>>130469137
tell that to your grandma faggot. ours are badass

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/08/great-granny-80-got-gun-kills-home-intruder-who-attacked-husband.html

>>130467602
Boomers got the gun laws through, just like every other screwup in the last 50 years.

I wouldn't care about the guns so much if I were allowed at least a knife or lethal force in self and home defence

>>130466186
I can just see all the terrorists, bikies and drug dealers lining up to hand in thier guns. Not.

Gun amnesty is a joke; 99% of the firearms that get handed in come from the following circumstances
>Never registered in the 90s and owners afraid to explain that they'd held onto the gun for 20 years
>Gun sat in the back of Grandads shed until he was so demented that he went into thw nursing home and the family go through everything and find that he still had his gun hid there behind a pile of junk

Really, gun amnesty has one advantage and that is reducing the risk of accidental injury in households that are harbouring a gun that they don't want but are unable to disose of because of gun regulations. That right; this entire excercise in gun amnesty is actually being carried out to solve issues that exist solely due yo excessive gun legislation.

>Hur well if thats true why dont they just have amnesty all the time
Yes, why dont they? If we're so worried about having guns around why do we only let people surrender them once a decade? Incompetance in government is literally the only answer to that question.

>Weve just got to do something about all these guns
Greenie poofters like you piss thier pants when someone mentions that there are guns in this country, a sparsely populated country heavily invested in agricultire, that are being used as necessary tools in every day life.

Then at the same time you push your socialist ideals of not putting criminals in prison, legalising drugs where possible, importing as many poor third worlders as you can and generally making sure you tax every last cent from people to keep them poor. Then when crime skyrockets you want to grab all the guns you can from law abiding people. Gee faggot, i wonder whats going to happen?

>>130467602
>>130496286

Boomercide when?

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>>130496408
http://www.lawhandbook.sa.gov.au/ch12s10s03s01.php
>In the case of a home invasion (that is, a serious criminal trespass in a place of residence), acting for a defensive purpose or to defend property can be complete defences to an offence, including murder, even if the defendant's conduct was not objectively reasonably proportionate to the perceived threat

Come to the best state, get a gun, and shoot home invaders without fear of any legal action.

>>130496889
China is flooding both of us so much so by the time the boomers all die, the Chinks will become a huge voting block almost on par with white millennials.

>>130496909
>an offence, including murder
They can still get you on your possession of the gun. Enjoy a year in court.

>>130469467
And illegal owners would do this why?
>Not storing muh gun behid the door proped up & loaded.
>Not paying hundreads in licence fees every few years.
>Not subject to random inspections by the police state of my property.
>No restrictions on what I can 'own'.

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>>130497078
>mfw registered gun owner

>>130497085
>Not subject to random inspections by the police state of my property.
This is the main reason I don't really want a gun. It gives the police the ability to harass you.

>>130469648
I'm 1.98m and 17 stone. You're a fat fuck.

>>130497173
Clearly you shouldn't have such an unsafe kitchen knife laying around then. Enjoy a year in court. Shall we bring up your facebook messages to show the court that you are clearly racist?

>>130497244
Even if he is, fat people can hit hard.

yes finally something is being done AGAIN

fucking gun taking scum

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Why are Australians so homosexual?

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>>130497173
>>130497228
>mfw american and I can legally manufacture my own firearms that the government has no idea about

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>>130497267
>having a faceberg
I guess I'd be pretty asshurt too if I lived in a cucked state where I couldn't even defend my own life inside my own house.

>>130470106
So I can not carry work tools? Even a multi-tool?

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>>130466186
ah the reality is catching up with the lefties all over the world

>>130497404
Until I see Americans actually using the threat of their guns to put their evil government in place, 2nd amendment doesn't mean dick.

>>130497473
A multi-tool?! What? So you can hijack a 747 whenever you feel like?! Whaddya think this is, Somalia?

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>>130497415
>And as you can see, Your Honor, the defendant is clearly a racist homophobe as shown by these 4chan posts...

>>130497473
I don't think you're aloud to carry a leatherman unless you can prove you have a use for it.

Yeah, because criminals follow the law and do what the government says...

>>130497549
>1776
>1861 (failed this time)
>2014 (Bundy Ranch)
>2016 (Threatened Hillary so she refused to campaign in Rust Belt)

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>>130497549
You don't understand anon, burgers will happily continue having an eternal war in the middle east, it's making their country great again! But rest assured, they'll certainly use those guns one day if necessary. :^)

>>130497576
>not using a VPN
Just stop m8. Besides, I love jews and all non whites!

>>130466617
Whites are facing a genocide so no we aren't. Fuck regular crime stats, us and our kids will have to fight to survive. Not one chance I am giving up my guns while the left invites in cartels and Muslims.

>>130497473
Why would you let the police search you in the first place?

>>130497747
>Yes, Your Honor, I can confirm that Anon is a sexist and attempted to (...eye...)rape me 14 years ago.

>>130497576
isn't that moots testimony?

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>>130479148
WTF I thought that was the land of Crocodile Dundee

>>130466186
>mfw cuck cannons anon gets his day in the sun

>>13047228
We used too, but in the 70's the boomers decided we need a big disgusting nanny state to go with all the immigration.

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>>130497825
Couldn't rape anyone because I'm a NEET shut-in your honor. Plus how is this even related to me shooting a proud custodian of this land that tried to enlighten me about his ownership of my land by stealing my belongings?

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>>130497952

>>130497388
>Melbourne
Imagine if Wellington grew to the size of your entire national population

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>>130466186
>260,000

Closer to 2.6 million lmao. The cuck government is finally starting to realize nobody cared about their retarded ban, and that their writ of law extends roughly as far as their nose.

>>130496909
>Come to the best state
Getting one thing right doesn't make up for it being a commie shithole that lives off begging canberra for gibs

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>>130466617
>Leonard Berkowitz
Clockwork

>>130498290
260k is probably just the stuff they know about from keeping an eye on the goatfuckers they let in

>>130498112
Yup, the REAL CROCODILE DUNDEE refused to hand in his guns and the Australian state killed him because of it.
>At least one Aussie bloke refused burgers...

>>130497228
They don't have the power to rifle through all your shit. They can only inspect your storage compartment.

I have literally never been inspected, had a licence for 10 years.

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>>130498542
260k is probably just a number they pulled out of their arse like everything else the government does. Stop assuming they're even remotely competent enough to keep track of illiterate dirtfarming goatfuckers. They aren't. They haven't got half a clue how many guns are in the country, the government doesn't even know how many REGISTERED guns are in the country.

>>130466411
Fpbp

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>>130466617
8/10 troll gun control is so retarded even I have to respond

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>>130498112
He got shot not far from where I live. It wasn't his domain, it was a fucking intersection off the highway, he stopped to shoot the cops that had set up a roadblock for him cos he lost the plot.

Also nobody was going around trying to confiscate 30-30s (which are legal) 4 years after the buyback. Especially the NT police. They're the laziest cops in the entire country. Took them a year to do anything about the unregistered gun I had that they KNEW about. All they did was call me up and ask me to send them a serial number so they could register it.

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>>130482699
Noice.

>>130466186
Who even needs guns. Vans are the future.

The stupid laws are resulting in crims manufacturing god knows how many SMGs since they are eaiser to create than pistols.

>>130482699
I FEEL UNSAFE PLEASE PROTECT ME VICPOL
REPORTED TO ASIO

>>130469846
I have a chronic back problem that heavily limits my ability to go fisticuffs.

>>130482699
>>130499000
Get lost AFP. Everyone knows images can be tracked to their creator because of kiddy fiddlers.
Why dont you do something about the 400,000 muslims in OUR land.

>>130499130
Dude I'm pretty sure ASIO reports to Vicpol since Melbournes courts & judges control the Australian legal system.

>>130498112
I fucking hate authoritarians

>>130466186

Apparently there's a colt 45 in the old family home that was never found. Nobody knows what happened to it.

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I hate you all so fucking much.

The town i grew up in has like 200 people in it and almost every cunt owned an SLR or pump action shotgun of some description. I did not see a non white person until i was 16. Everyone grew poppies and weed on their properties. The nearest police station was like 100kms away. The guy who owned the IGA nearby dealed choof over the counter.

We were happy in bumfuck until you Melbourne fucks turned this great place into a nanny state.

You aren't anti-gun, you just want the government to have guns and the Australian government is known for looking after its people and making good decisions right? One fuckin false flag attack and a huge nationwide emotional decision takes away my right to self defense, and to keep those fuckin pigs and rabbits off my property that destroy my corn every year. The 96 changes only halfed gun related deaths and every single year before and after port arthur, knives beat guns in death counts.

Fuck you fuckin melbourne greens voting faggots and any person who believes monopolizing self defense via the state is a good idea.

>>130466617
>no fun allowed

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Hold on to your guns, Aussie bros, its the only thing that stands between you and a tyrannical government. Don't hand them over just because they "encourage: you to, tell them to get fucked and take your damn country back

>>130467602
Speaking of which...

When in fuck do we get to OPT OUT of the ehealth system.

lemme guess, AFTER they've ingested all our data first so every australian institution can create a private copy internal to their process before we can indicate to opt out.

>>130466617
Yeah until the year 2100 when the world and our country looks completely different

>not knowing that political power is born the in the barrel of a gun

Giving up your guns is the most selfish thing you can do. It's selfish to your descendants. Go back 3 reddddit

>>130466617
Oh look, a bunch of jews say self defense is bad. We need to start molding bricks for the worlds biggest oven.

>>130501320
and you'll still get taxed for not being a part of it

>>130466186
how to fix this shit: never vote for a woman

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>>130501075
>tyrannical government

>>130469137
Not that easy when there's more than one of them you have to juggle getting enough sleep for work tomorrow with hitting 6s on sudo skulls

Having a gun by your bed is the final redpill

>>130501688
That exceedingly dirty and nasty people also went on to create the greatest nation on earth. Stay mad, Bruce

>>130501688
>governments and armies stay the same forever

How far into the future are you looking? Next year? You don't know who will be needing guns in 100-200 years and giving the guns to the government takes that power out of the people's hands and gives them to a government that openly hates us

You are a selfish traitor to your descendants. Baby boomer mentallity

>>130498736
>Stop assuming
The only things I've ever assumed about government (at all levels here) is that they're incompetent and do not have our best interests at heart

t. live next door to nigger-infested suburbs

>>130475255
Hearty Kek my Australian friend.

Not an argument tho.

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>>130466617
SHALL