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Christianity, Why can't I change ?

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My parents are atheists, I ordered a Bible 6 month ago and started reading it, I was amazed and now I'm believe in God, I want to be a christian, I pray sometimes when I sin. It's really difficult to stop masturbating to loli and other horrible hentai I am ashamed of myself. I want to be baptized, but I don't think I can at this time, I really want to refrain my lust before beginning catechism.
Why can't I stop even while loving God and wanting to stop sinning like this, I feel like a idiot that keep doing bad things and beg for forgiveness right after.
How can I truly change ?
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>>130461847
You were given over to a reprobate mind.
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>>130461847
>It's really difficult to stop masturbating to loli and other horrible hentai I am ashamed of myself.
...out of fucking nowhere.

You're praying to a false God. Look in to Odinism, it's a native European religion. if you think Christianity speaks to you, this will speak to you 10,000 x stronger. It did for me
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>>130461847
Most Christians fap to loli, if not 3d. You'll be in good company, don't torture yourself. Remember you can do anything you want because "muh sinners" then get it confessed away. Boom, express lane to heaven.
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>>130462156

This man is an autist and ignore him

Reject false god and demons and accept Jesus Christ, the Lord of Lords
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>>130461847
Keep putting effort in. Christianity isn't about being perfect as everyone sins, even the people that you may imagine as being "pure." As long as you give an effort into improving yourself, that's the best thing you can do.

For masturbating, I'd suggest you go outside more, do more physical activity, or hang around people to avoid the urge of doing said thing. Take small steps at a time, don't try to rush.
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Christianity is a false religion created by Jews a few thousand years ago to better enslave them. Join the 1.1 billion secular people around the world and rise against the Muslim and Fundie menace.
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Romans 1:28
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
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>>130462218
Taking advantage of mercy in Christianity is a sin. God isn't a vending machine.
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>>130462417
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/23/u-s-religious-groups-and-their-political-leanings/
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>>130462155

>>130462408

>>130462529

Thanks you, I will keep doing effort and try to understand God better
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>>130462156
>>130462318
What makes either of your magic superbeings more real than the other?
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>>130462417
I like how you fools claim to be secular but have faith in Star Trek, or some other sci fi kike shit.
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>>130461847
lol!
Bible is shithole of jews.
1) Father of Jesus was
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshu#Yeshu_ben_Pandera
2) All of christianity is myth, born by schizophrenic minds and propaganda.
3) If you want to be "baptised", you must learn "safeword", if strapon so big.
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Is this what christians think atheism is like, rebelling against parents?

I wish i had the ignorance to be able to just believe what i want, but it still scares me to see people who can actually convince themselves of obvious BS.
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>>130463105
That was some strawman you've got there.
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>>130462839
The only way to the Father is through the Son.
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>>130461847
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2AGrXG-AsA

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>>130461847
Understand and realize whenever you're looking into the eyes of another being you are looking into the eyes of God. And then treat them as such.
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>>130463298
I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm calling you an idiot fool who has faith in albert kikestein and good goy dawkins.
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>>130461847
Watch Cliffe Knechtle, John Piper, Ray Comfort, David Platt, John Macarthur and Voddie Baucham on youtube.
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>>130462156
>WE WUZ VIKINGS

Fuck off pagan nigger
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>>130461847
Come home men of Europa.
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>>130463314
And the only way to either of them is through Mary's intercession. Don't forget to pray to Mary.
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>>130463975
don't pray to Mary, smoke her.
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>>130463604
Right, and that's a strawman. You can call whatever names and reduce shit like the thousands of years of scientific progress that's allowing us to communicate at this very moment to Star Trek and Kikestein, but at the end of the day, what I believe isn't anymore ridiculous than what you do.
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>>130461847
Pretty sure this has been said before, but lusting after children is considered common courtesy among all Christians.
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>>130463975
>the only way to either of them is through Mary's intercession
>pray to Mary.

Does the Bible actually say any of that or is it just the Catholic interpretation?
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>I TOTALLY JUST CONVERTED THIS IS TOTALLY NOT A MANIPULATION TACTIC
>DUUUURRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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>>130461847
>Why can't I stop even while loving God and wanting to stop sinning like this, I feel like a idiot that keep doing bad things and beg for forgiveness right after.
>How can I truly change ?

You can't. It's like Calvin said, you're Totally Depraved!

Fortunately, this is not a problem for God who can save you even though you are totally depraved.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/calvin/cc38/cc38007.htm

Now some practical advice. If you want to quit masturbating, find a wife. I realize this might be difficult, but the reason St. Paul advises people to marry if they need to is that marriage is a permissible way to fulfill your sexual appetites.
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>>130461847
you are doing this only because you hate your parents, I’m a christian don't take this as delegitimizing your faith but if it wouldn't be like this you wouldn't had said that your parents were atheists.
>also converted because of the bible
I’m so sorry for you
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>>130461847
Jewdeo-Christianity is indeed perfect for a cucked country such as yourself. Who knows, some day you might be as BASED as protestand daughter Merkel or protestant presidents Gauck and Steinmeier. Or, Jeshua of Nazareth knows, even the marxist pope!
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>>130464950

No my parents are great, it's just because a christian friend of mine was surprised that my parents were atheist when I said that I want to be baptized
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>>130461847
Life isn't easy, now you can actually see that temptations have taken control of most of your mind, you just got to keep trying to fight it.
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>>130465237
well Jean then as you enjoy loli porn just get in the seminary and be a catholic priest, and I’m also quite curious about what part of the bible did you like, was it the old testament or the new?
in which God do you believe, in the trinity?
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>>130465019

Then show your real location, I bet you are a cockroach or a argentinian. I voted for FN, but I learned one thing that I already known but couldn't face it; Democracy is a big joke it always was.
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>>130465019
atheist stay mad
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>>130461847
Which part of the Bible made you believe?

How did you get past the issue of there being other religions how do you know one is true and the other is false?
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>>130465558

I'm not into real porn, I liked the 4 gospel. Yes I believe in the manifestation of God in three aspects : The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit. But why all these questions ? Shouldn't this be obvious to you as a christian ?
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>>130461847
Fixed your pic.

Stop externalizing and expatriating personal responsibility.
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>>130465939

It was when I finished it, The book of Revelation.
And I knew the Bible and Christianity would make myself a better person
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What makes anything real?
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>>130461847
When I started reading the Bible, I was militant fedora and was only reading it so I could debate with Christians and for literary purposes. Before I'd finished, I'd converted to Christianity. I did my Confirmation a few years later and now I go to Communion five or six times a year. God wills it.
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>>130466011
>implying that all christians believe the same as cucktolicks
well this might shock you but we do not, some of us reject the trinity as: The Father, called the demon by Jesus when talking to the jews, also basically a jewish machination to cuck christianism, the holy spirit, people were very creative back then this one despite existing always (the same way Jesus does) it's not recognized in the Old Testament. Also should I mention that the New Testament did not exist thill decades after the death of the apostles and that it contradicts itself some times? Frankly it seems a forgery made by the (((church))) just the same way the donation of Constantine was
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>>130465939
This is a very good question.

>>130466363
>It was when I finished it, The book of Revelation.

Please, for the love of God, do not tell me that you read Revelation, drew a bunch of parallels to current events, and think that the world is ending right now?
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You are biologically programmed (by your genes) to want to have sex with many women.
Christianity was invented to control sexual reproduction and make you feel guilty and ashamed.
You are going to be completely miserable for years.
Which is sad, since there is no god.
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>>130466662

Amen! Brother
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>>130466363
>It was when I finished it, The book of Revelation.

Interesting how did you find the Book of John?


>And I knew the Bible and Christianity would make myself a better person

Dont you worry that you are choosing a religion based on its usefulness over truth? Im sometimes get that concern when I deal with Buddhism and Mormonism.
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>>130466662
>Before I'd finished, I'd converted to Christianity.

Same question >>130465939
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>>130465808
Pepe is dead; so you might want to redo your meme with something else.
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>>130466681

No it was after I read the Bible ending by the book of Revelation and being a phase of introspection. After thinking I knew that my life was really starting
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>>130462408

This. The whole reason Jesus had to die for our sins is because the old way was "burn in tell for breaking 1 rule". Without Jesus we'd have gone the way of psychopathic talmudists trying to break all the rules while obeying them.
Do your best to prove you're not LARPing
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>>130467212

begin
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>>130467107
I don't care about what a cuck cartoonist does or says, pepe now belongs to us
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>>130467212
Ok, that's way better.

>>130467352
I think you were right the first time.

>>130467226
>The whole reason Jesus had to die for our sins is because the old way was "burn in tell for breaking 1 rule".

So did everybody before Jesus go to hell since they were all sinners?
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>>130461847
Ignore the pagan faggots, Ive seen true Divine Intervention in a dream. I was granted the Flaming Sword of God to vanquish 2 demons attacking me and my son.
God is real, you are on the right track anon.
>Peace be with you.
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Religious reason: the devil is tempting you

Scientific reason: brain gets "addicted" to dopamine, fapping gives that shit because it developed so humans got positive reinforcement for sex...note that dopamine can come from eating a cookie or other ways.


If you want to, just quit fapping cold turkey for a week or two and see
Where you stand. Note that this sex drive should ware off once your in your mid to late 30's
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>>130467783

Thank I want to pursue my efforts even more thanks to you all, God bless you.
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Read this and realize your future is NOT in a CATHOLIC PEW.

Pray/Talk/Commune with CHRIST directly through prayer and worship.

https://50shadesofpissedoff.wordpress.com/2016/04/04/how-i-woke-up/
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>>130466678
Fuck, Torquemada missed one.
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>>130467931
St. Louis would be proud of you Anon.
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>>130461847
>Why can't I stop even while loving God and wanting to stop sinning like this, I feel like a idiot that keep doing bad things and beg for forgiveness right after.
>How can I truly change ?
We're all sinners, bud. True righteousness is working towards redemption.
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>>130467980
>torquemadas
you mean Torquemada the descendant from jewish conversos? What's the next jew you will invoke? Judas?
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>>130461847
God bless, brother!
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>>130467783
>God is real because I had a dream
>Everyone who doesn't believe is a faggot

Bro, you're not making a great case for your faith bro.

>>130467931
It's ok to explore religion and have faith, but try not to take people like him so seriously. Militant christians are the other side of the fedora tipper coin.
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>>130461847
I feel very sorry for you. You should stop beating yourself up psychologically. This is a form of self-harm and a religion that encourages you to torture yourself is not good for you.
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>>130466283
>>130461847

I like both
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>>130466742
Also, I still fap to vile porn. It's better than being vile yourself, but we really must stop watching porn. The way I see it, the only solution is the holy sacrament of marriage. Good luck!

By the way, my Confirmation was in 2009 around the time I discovered /b/. If you got true faith, there's no logical or rational argument that can break that armour. Be confident and join the army of Christ. Repent and cleanse yourself for your Baptism. But remember that we are all sinners and Christ paid for us all, so don't worry about backsliding. We all do it. As long as your heart and soul is on the right path, God will show you the way.
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>>130468408
Stay mad you Moorish heretic.
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>>130468577

Maybe it's in my nature to try and to fail, but I really want change. I always thought that lusting excessively was a bad thing, even before I became a religious person
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>>130469045
Change and personal improvement are good.

You should watch Welcome to the NHK to see how easy it is for people who do not feel good about themselves to latch onto self-harming groups.

You will always be the best judge of what is best for you.

Just don't hurt yourself to change, OK?
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>>130469038
s-sorry anon did the priest touch you when you were a kid and thus it's the reason to be so much butthurt mad? You did not counter-argument any of my points, maybe because all of them are true?
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>>130462839
you dont need to understand god, you need to know him.

The only way to know him is to pray.
You can either recite some prayers psalms that you personally enjoy or recite bible passages that you enjoy.

The bible is not like a fiction novel, its not meant to be read only once.

Enjoy the bible, enjoy your prayers, find god in everything that surrounds you, love thy neighbor truly.
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>>130468562
What I meant was neo-pagan LARPers are faggots.
I dont hate unbelievers, I pity them.
However the "duuurrrrr Woden is x20 more badass dur dur durrrr, hed kick Jesus's ass all over the place durrrrrdurdurrrrr" is nothing more than pathetic virtue signaling.
>God could wipe all other deities into nonexistence without the power of even a thought
>Im assuming he finds a type of humor in their ignorance though, so allows them to continue on
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>>130469326

Thank you greatly for the advice, you sound like a good person. I've already watched welcome to NHK, it's a good anime
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>>130469422
why then does the bible contradict itself? And why there are four gospels that while thar are inspired by the holy spirit contradictory or just not even mention some things that in the other gospels do?
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>>130461847
>ashamed of self

Why are 98% of people mental prostitutes? Practiced Christianity is of the utmost a mental prostitution, and an enslavement. You can do much better without destroying yourself.
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>>130461847
christianity is literally just evolved judaism
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It's starting to become late here in France, I think I'm gonna sleep. Have a good night/day brothers
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>>130469643
the moment you try to use logic is the moment you've lost your faith.

The point of believing is not having to question.
You may think that's cowardly but in fact it is the other way around, it is much braver to trust Him.
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>>130469978
Good night
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You are not perfect, all you can do is try your best and pray for strength. I recently accepted Christ as my savior too, let us rejoice!
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>>130470043
So we have to be conformists/robots to even be a part of your religion? Sounds awful if you can't question. Even totalitarian in such.
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>>130470043
>don't use logic
>just believe

There's something along the lines of feminine and masculine mind, Where feminine is more of experiences, and masculine is more based in reality.
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>>130470043
if God does not commit errors but then you're admitting that he does as it if he did not then it would all make sense then you are rejecting God or at least God's truth, explain this, why if he is all knowing and perfect and does not commit errors nor do it’s servants then why do you reject facts?
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>>130461847

Take a break from all porn. You have become addicted. Addicts have to seek out more and more unusual porn to get off because they see other things as too boring. Stop before you can only cum if you are looking at a specific fetish.

If your lucky, your loli kink will only be that, a temporary kink from a desire to see unusual porn.
But you have to nip it in the bud now. If you don't, you could permanently alter what gets you arouses and you will need loli shit to get off.

So take a break from all porn until boob shaped objects give you a hard on. Then look at vanilla porn and try to stick with that.

Trust me OP. I had a severe porn addiction for years. I'm a Christian and I turned over a new leaf because my addiction came between me and my girlfriend.
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>>130470137
>posts pic of kikelord's name
yes goys i have accepted Christ!
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>>130470255
i also thought it was awful but it is the opposite :)

Look at dogma as a means to an end, dont fall in the trap of theology.
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>>130469336
>s-sorry anon did the priest touch you when you were a kid and thus it's the reason to be so much butthurt mad?

Nice projection.
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>>130461847
Stop relying on God to change you. You need to understand that your spiritual redemption is in your own hands and conscious free will. God can't force you to do anything.
The holy spirit is there to help you, but you need to be open to be recieve it through your own admiration.

You also need to know that Modern Christianity is built on misinformation from a fascist Roman Catholic Church desperate to maintain a state of control in the midst of a crumbled Roman Empire.

Research the Nicene Council, the actions of Constantine I and the true original teachings of Jesus Christ. He taught reincarnation and spiritual redemption through your own means of deep meditation to reflect and detox yourself of impurity. This takes time, consistency and dedication. Embrace the eternal love and forgive yourself first and all will come of your own accord. Good luck and stay positive. God bless.
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>>130467694

Yes. I can't seem to find the actual verse confirming it at the moment though. Perhaps some other anon can find it? It might be in Romans somewhere, which I recommend reading next if you haven't already
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>>130469978
have a good night and I hope you read more than the bible, you should read some theology to at least know what do you believe if you are cuckltholic
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>>130470528
I respect christians who are nice and is way better than Islam but I just don't buy into the whole worshipping thing because I find so many errors in the Christian doctrine.
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>>130470417
Nigger, he is a being that created a universe with 12 dimensions, where you can only experience 4. Who the fuck are you to say how a being works that exists on planes of existence you can't fucking comprehend?
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>>130470658
>new age bullshit
gtfo with your heresy pleb
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>>130461847
>How can I truly change?
Stop falling for the Judaism lite meme
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>>130470530
I wish and so do you, but we all know who's got some extra time with father Michael, don't we?
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>>130470417
all of that is way too complicated, why are you building obstacles for yourself?

Trying to understand religion is just not gonna work, you can reject it but dont reject on factual grounds because it doesn not belong to the positivist field.

Its like trying to defy math through art.
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>>130463232
Thalmud is satanism
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Watch Steven Anderson

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>>130470815
yeah and he created the earth and all its animal, plants... in six days sure, tell me do you believe in dinosaurs or they are another test to your faith?
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>>130461847
Yes you can change but it will be hard. It took me a year of trying to give up porn to be finally successful. If you are serious about it, you can change.
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>>130470658
Damn that's some good advice. Not even a dash of the usual degeneracy I expect when pol/ocks discuss Christ.
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This is a funny thread.
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>>130470717
that is fine, one of the great things of faith is that it only requires my own consent.

The door is always open and dont think for a moment that he wont let you back in :)
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>>130468315
Louis the 9th?
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>>130470935
I am a true christian, one who rejects the kikelord and believes truly and only in Jesus Christ Pantokrator, I do not reject his truth but seek it if you are a true christian so should you, stop with the mental gymnastics and if you care start reading some theology
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>>130468315
Louis IX?
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>>130471385
I am in search of the truth, not acceptance. I am finding atheism to be the most logical off all of them but hell, if oyu can somehow prove that a deity exists, I am listening. Then again, most people here are trolls and don't give actual intellectual conversations but I'll keep my mind open, as so should you.
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>>130471490
theology only entertains unfaithful minds.

It can be entertaining, but shares the same discrepancies as porn.
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Of* you* Fucking hell. English is autistic today.
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>>130467101
>Which part of the Bible made you believe?
By the time I finished Psalms, I realised that I had been wrong in my prejudice against the Bible that it was just silly fairy stories. At first, it was just appreciation of its literary merits and reasonableness, if read figuratively. Then I fast forwarded to the Gospels and Jesus spoke to me. The direct speech and actions of Jesus are the only essential parts of the Bible.

>How did you get past the issue of there being other religions how do you know one is true and the other is false?
I don't. I just follow tradition and put my faith in Christ. He is the one who taught me about God. I believe the other religions to be like collective tribal memories of the true god experience of our original ancestor. More or less wrong. Christian society is objectively superior to any other and Christianity is compatible with reason and science. The more Christian society becomes, the better it becomes, the less the worse. The opposite is true of other religions (except maybe buddhism, but that is not really concerned with God). It seems like the right way.
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>>130461847
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>>130470911
Says the increasingly ass blasted guy fedora tipping at everyone.
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>>130471824
theology is literally the study of the sacred, there's nothing that means more dedication and devotion to the Lord than basically studying him and all that's sacred, the church, the bible… Why do you reject his truth? Can you truly believe in him if you don’t believe in his creation?
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>>130461847
read harry potter and see if you believe that too
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>>130470854
>New age.
These teachings predate Christianity itself by 1000's of years.

It's amazing you're willing to base your entire belief and spiritual destiny on something you don't even know the history of.
How Christianity even became a mainstream religion after the Crucifixion and what historical events took place to bring about the Catholic Church.
Anyone with self respect and desire for truth should have a thirst for this knowledge. And this is in no way blasphemy against Christ or God.
Its resistance against the system that lied for its own mortal gain that needs to be brought to the open.
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>>130472196
you are the only one here who has not given one argument to counter mines, well you know surely you are a lovely person and a faithful one in real life, tell me do you know that anger is one of the deadly sins?
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>>130471639
but i do not seek proof.

Seek truth, i am not saying you shouldnt,
dont give up on your own ability to discern the world around you.

But remember, do not give up on yourself.

There will be a point where you will trully start to doubt yourself, and what you do then will trully define what kind of man you will be.
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God is a placeholder for what we don't understand. There will always be unknowns in the universe to explore with our knowledge of the known. Atheism's rejection of the unknown proves it is objectively false. Being spiritual and being religious are 2 different things.
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>>130472275
You do not need to understand Him to know Him, otherwise he would only be accessible to intellectuals or priests.

I do believe the hardest job in the world is priesthood because you take on the weight of an entire community, priests take on the weight of understanding or the weight of theology so believers do not have to burden themselves.

Theology is not necessary. Faith is.
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>>130473283
Isn't god a rejection of the unknown by saying everything, no matter how complex, is made by god; no questions asked?
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>>130472548
I'm sorry I made you angry by shitposting about Torquemada.

I really don't give a fuck about your religious views.
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>>130466283
This does nothing but prove moral relativism, which is bullshit
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>>130461847
>going to /pol/ - Politically Incorrect to ask about embracing Christianity
If you want to live a life free of sin, you can start by getting rid of temptations altogether and stop browsing 4chan.
Believe it or not, dropping this shithole website has been harder for me than dropping porn. I quit porn after a couple of months but I can't stop coming back here.
Good luck.
Pro tip: the Trinity isn't real. God always existed, his Son was his first creation and therefore they can't be the same being, and the Holy Spirit is a force, not a conscious being.
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>>130464522
It's Catholics, ignore.
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>>130472057
>I believe the other religions to be like collective tribal memories of the true god experience of our original ancestor.

Doesnt that create problems when some religions make claims that contradict others completely?

>Christian society is objectively superior to any other

How do you know Christianity is the causal factor? Up until the 1600 Chinese society was objectively superior to all others.


and Christianity is compatible with reason and science. The more Christian society becomes, the better it becomes, the less the worse. The opposite is true of other religions (except maybe buddhism, but that is not really concerned with God). It seems like the right way.

>The more Christian society becomes, the better it becomes, the less the worse

Does that mean America was better when the Purtians ran mini theocracies?

>The opposite is true of other religions

How so? Islam reached its pinnacle - which for a time eclipsed the Christian World when there was no secular divide and ruled directly by Caliphs
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>>130473718
>prove moral relativism
you can't prove anything in relativity, because everything is relative. you're a self-centered, narcissistic, hedonist. kill yourself, you are the useful idiot of the gematria obsessed zionist murderous pedophile elite that want to see a reflection of themselves in the masses because they're a soulless void.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E
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>>130461847
>I want to be baptized, but I don't think I can at this time, I really want to refrain my lust before beginning catechism.

We are always just and sinner, under christ.

If you want to be baptised, be baptised. It is better that you're under christ than under the devil as you are...even under christ, though, you will sin, but at that point, you'll have a chance at having christ defeat sin.

Bluntly, you do not become a christian because you ARE sinless...you become a christian because you strive towards sinlessness.

>Why can't I stop even while loving God and wanting to stop sinning like this

Because of Adam's sin, we're afflicted with concupiscence. It is not through your efforts that you will ever stop sinning, but only through christ alone. You cannot rely on your own efforts to become sinless, but only though a true and abiding faith in christ can you be bent towards sanctification.
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>>130469643
Much of this can be explained away by the power of God, he has the power to be contradictory, its to show that sonetimes you dont need to know why, only what and to have faith when there are thongs you dont understand.
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As there is physics, there is moral boundaries to the universe.

You can break them, but not without consequence.

Natural Law = Deterministic Aspect of Creation
Free Will = Subjective Aspect of Creation

Creationists are right brain imbalanced.
Atheists are left brain imbalanced.

Both are slavery perpetuated by think tanks to act as forms of control.
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>>130474258
>look at all thw buzzwords I used mom.

Youve got no moral bedrock, everying is both moral and amoral.

Kill yourself post haste.
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>>130474529
I hope you're trolling when you say he is allowed to make fallacies and contradict himself.
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>>130473673
no, to be saved you only need to believe in him but why not understand him? why not accepting his truth? when you reject his truth you are also rejecting him
>>130473705
don't be sorry I wasn’t even angry just going on with what you did say, I’d love to hear if you have any point to counter-argument what I say through, in the end we are both christians who in one or another way accept him as savior and God although of course I differ in lots of things whit you catholics/mainstream christians which I see that go against a more pure form of Christianism like veneration of May or the saints and well yahweh-trinity
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>>130474529
what you just did say goes against the all-knowing and ever perfect concept of God you believe in and no God does not lie but the devil does
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>>130461847
>other horrible hentai
Source?
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>>130474644
>black sun is a satanic symbol

Mark Passio is still a shill.

The black sun is a symbol of spiritual awakening. Also he demonizes "da natzis" a lot.

Seems to me to be a kike lolbertarian plant.
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>>130474644
>pic related
>>130474701
buzzword? wot? i just used multiple synonyms in a row to get my point across.

and speaking of moral bedrocks. a moral bedrock would be living in harmony with natural law, and to act honorably. what's yours?

>>130475158
i fucking know, mark needs to be woke on the nazis. he's still a faggot in that area, but he's got a lot right. no researcher is 100%.
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>>130461847
I feel you op

Biggest part is changing habit : keep away from activities, and change your outlet

One thing which helps is demonizing unwanted behavior. If you know its bad, get angry and hostile at the concept, this helps keeping such things at arms distance

Beyond that, STAY BUSY! idle hands are the devils tools, and I've been my best when I'm busy as crap, and worst when I have nothing to do.

Oh, and you don't need to avoid 4chan entirely, but stay off the porn boards, and avoid tempting crap : just keep scrolling.
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>>130475379
Dude he is saying the modern power system are "natzis" and that they're the "cult of the black sun". The reality is jews mock it, because it's the "kingdom of heaven" Jesus spoke of. The inner spirit within things.
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>>130474795
You realize that the concept of an all powerful god is at its core contradictory?

Who is trolling who?
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>>130474822
putting in the effort to understand him is optional and detrimental.

Let me simplify it for you,

you can say

A=B

or you can say

A

At the end of the line "A=B" adds one more step to the proccess, it expands rather than reduces the problem.

Because after "A=B"
someone can ask: but what is "B"

and someone else will say:
B=C

and maybe someone else will conclude

A=C

So A=B=C add infinitum

All believers need is "A", anything other than "A" is pure entertainment based on novelty.

You might say that disputing B and C makes me a heretic, but what i am saying is that B and C are only means. I will use "B" and "C" to help me when i am feeling weak, but the end goal will always be "A".
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>>130474527
to expand on this, we must examine faith. what is faith?

often, the fool atheist calls it blind belief, but rather it is indeed trust.

and what is it that we have trust in, but the ultimate sign of christ's power: that is, the resurrection. In this, christ has shown us that he has power over life and death, far more than any institution of local law, or even the roman empire.

If we can accept this, then what are christ's other promises, but pittances in comparison? That those who eat his flesh and drink his blood are filled with life and in union with him -- this is but one of his promises, and it ultimately profound.

Union with god. It is what we achieve through christ. And a union of our sins with his crucifixion.

If we let these promises hold true for us, what of his law? shall we not see it too as promises? do not consider your sins merely as things you need to avoid, but consider that god's law is for our benefit, and in this, the law expresses condemnation against things which are intrinsically harmful to us as man.

This is repentance -- metanoia. The "change of mind" concerning the nature of sin which allows us to stop sinning. ultimately, by way of understanding and internalizing WHY a sin harms us. In all this, we can become repulsed by even the thought of a sin, as much as by rotting meat or a corpse.

And it is only by trust in christ that we can find this freedom...so consider how your sins harm you and understand this harm to your core.
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>>130462417
Christianity is Not Jewish
http://pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
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>>130474822
I'm actually LARPING. I didn't think this thread would generate actual intelligent conversation.

Now I feel bad...
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>>130461847
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>>130475850
well it's not like this, it's more like this:

A+B(C-D)=E

while you only say

A+B=?

Because A is the bible and B is your lack of interest in knowing the truth and our lord, as such you will never know what that means, while (C-D) it's the time one takes to study it and go deeper this way I can get to know that the result to my doubts is E and with this get to know the truth and accept his truth because if you don't accept his truth you are rejecting him, you are instead accepting something that you don’t even know who wrote it, and the most probable option is (((them)))
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>>130476318
yes your shitpost generated something more than your brain can handle don't worry anon, you will always have Jesus
>>130475850
and it doesn’t make you an heretic it makes you more someone who rejects him and his truth as such you are not even a true christian, but well if you so much want to believe in that book then you surely read how Jesus studied with the rabbis so the bible in reality is not even against theology as Jesus himself studied some
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>>130475696
Omnipotence isn't self-contradictory. If "omnipotence" doesn't imply the ability to perform the logically absurd, then the answer to whether or not God can resolve paradoxical questions is simply "No," and He is still omnipotent. If "omnipotence" does imply the ability to perform the logically absurd, then the answer to whether or not God can resolve paradoxical questions is simply "Yes," e.g. He could do something like create a rock so heavy He is unable to lift it, and He could lift it anyway. The contention "But that's logically absurd," is not be valid if the ability to perform the logically absurd is part of the definition of "omnipotence." Therefore, omnipotence isn't self-contradictory.

You should really stop just believing what atheists say who you think are smarter than you and think for yourself.
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>>130476870
all of that is way too complicated.

It sounds way too hard and tiring, torturing yourself to prove your faith sounds very catholic.

Our destination is the same, yet you choose the hard path, why? Jesus already sacrificed himself so you wouldnt have to suffer.

Its getting late, goodnight and try to take it easy.
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>>130477371
>if you so much want to believe in that book

i thought this thread was about christianity???
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>>130478263
because we depend on believing in him in truly him and to live according to him and his judgement, teachings and reality, when you reject the truth you are also rejecting him as plain and simple as that
>>130478554
the new testament was written decades after the death of all the apostles, what were christians before the (((bible))) was written? Not all christians belive in the bible or in the same bible
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