Political compass thread.

>>130442952
>Economic freedom is tyranny

Nah

>>130442952
Replace Tito with Obongo and replace Obongo with Bush. Obongo was a fucking leftist through and through, only slightly limited by the centre-right neo-con system he inherited.

>>130443562 for >>130443054

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>>130442952
only kindergarten kids and schizophrenics are unironicly in the bottom left

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>>130442952
green square = mental illness

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>>130442952

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>>130443870
>red square
>food

>>130442952
How about Libertarian with no economic policies at all? Just livin the kangz lifestyle.

>>130443872
Best one I've seen yet!

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>>130442952
>liberty
I think you mean degeneracy.

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>>130442952

can someone post the gun/weed one

1st quadrant: love guns, hate weed
2nd quadrant: hates guns, hates weed
3rd quadrant: hates guns, loves weed
4rg quadrant: loves guns, loves weed

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>>130442952
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>>130443964
Looks about right

>>130443958
They weren't standing in those bread lines for fun.

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Should also have Rev 2:9 and 3:9 on top right

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>>130444146
they weren't starving to death because there was an abundance of bread either

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>>130443998
Accurate

>>130444134
You need to be gassed. I'm serious.

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>>130442952
I feel labeled too far left and too libertarian

>>130444400
It's pretty acurate but I'm more worried for the dot in the bottom left.

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>>130444406
Y

>>130442952
This


Government is just a tool to make people's lives better.
Libertarianism is just a meme pushed by the ultra rich as the secret "3rd way" of politics, but its really just to get people to shut up about money.

Green is the only one that improves everyone's quality of life

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>>130444368
They weren't ALWAYS starving.
Red square is terrible, but green square is just plain lunacy

>>130444514
>national bolshevik
>this much libertarian
I would gladly drive your train to Gulag.

>>130443870
>political views are mental illness
Ok Brezhnev

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>>130444642
Kek is this the calvinist version? Top right should be ok considering it's Christian traditionalist.

>>130443872
9/10
saved

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>>130444043
I kekked

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>>130444642
red square is scarier, they can actually put up a fight

>>130443998
>confederate
>libertarian

>>130443872
>implying purple and blue cant cooperate

Fuck off with your D&C, schlomo

>>130444400
Pretty accurate compared to all the other garbage out there.

>>130444143

>Recreational nuclear bombs.

Kek.

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>>130444557
Ah didn't even notice that.
Wasn't my test, I just saved it from here awhile back because it puts Nat Soc in the correct place unlike the more common similar one that people post.

>>130444868
>decent people
Could be argued. Most nu-males and multiculturalists/socdems are there.

>>130444642
What's the difference between gluttony and greed?

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>>130444862
The green is full of Fags and cucks.

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hi guys

>>130445038
You should post it on /leftypol/ to rustle their jimmies.

>>130445174
gluttony is food and drink
greed is that and more

>>130444754
>be green square
>think everybody should do what they want
>but they should be forced to share everything
>this will be enforced by... idk the Honor Code?

Seems pretty psychotic to me fampai.

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>>130442952
Consider a rigorous diet of cyanide.

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>>130442952

>>130445174
Gluttony is kind of like a hybrid of Greed and Sloth, with an emphasis on Food and Alcohol while greed is more about money/currency.

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>>130445315
Hello r/atheism.

>>130445450
This is unironically the compass for most of the french urban youth.

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>>130444400
Fixed

>>130443870
The bottom left square should be some kind of vegan lettuce or some soy shit

>>130444862
I don't disagree with that, but i wasn't judging them on "scariness".

>>130445772
You can put some soy-lent green on red square.

>>130444596
>those digits
>quad quads
the ghost benito mussolini roams this thread

>>130445772
>implying lettuce or soy would get farmed without money to pay the farmers & transportation costs to get it to market
lol no

>>130444922
שלומה המלך

>>130443562
>Obongo was a fucking leftist through and through
This is not only wrong, but extremely ironic, coming from a fucking Dutchman.

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>>130442952

>Liberty, except for the people who will have to be forced to pay for all your handouts, gibs and "free" college.

Commies are just evil, exploiting resentment of poorer people to try and lure everyone into a dictatorship where they hope to be top comrade, but you people honestly have not progressed beyond the mental level of a 4 y.o.

>Gimme stuff or tantrum, mommy and daddy pay for everything with magic money, and I wanna be able to do whatever I want consequences be damned, because the world is all about MEEEEE

>>130446464
What the fuck does his nationality have to do with the politics of the progressive nigger Obama?

>>130445174
Greed is lack of generosity.
Gluttony is lack of self control.

>>130445595
I don't get it, always thought I was (not extremely) right leaning. I mean I hate Merkel, our new fucktard of a president, who is basically a king from tonight on, and would have 100% voted for Trump

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>>130446558
You've diagnosed the symptoms but did you find out what is the (((disease)))?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTmNWY0ZPfM

>>130446851
>Gluttony is lack of self control.

That actually depends. Gluttony when food is rare/expensive is a sign of wealth, just like it was in the past in Europe. Hence rather fat women were seen as the epitome as beauty. In todays 1st world society, you are completely right of course.

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>>130447065
I know what you mean. You need to get redpilled on the authoritarian side. Read Rene Guenon and Leon Degrelle. You have them in original french.

>>130444922
no they can't, it's next to impossible to get rid of an authoritarian government without a revolution. It makes all cooperation totally useless since libertarian would have to start everything over again once they get tread on, which is bound to happen

>>130447263
But gluttonous consume what they have, while greed just accumulate.

>>130443998
This.

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>>130442952

>>130446464
How am I wrong, everything Obongo did was to make America more left-wing, his social policies were about promoting a bunch of feminism, LGBTQFAGGOT+ and immigrant issues, all extremely socially left-wing, his economic policies centralized Healthcare into mostly government controlled hands and regulated a shitton of companies out of business because muh environment as well as putting even more people on food stamps and other government programs.

The most right-wing things he did was to occasionally throw a bone towards his donors who are, by the way, also extremely socially left-wing.

>>130447637

I never talked about greed, only gluttony. Of course a glutton can't consume more than he has, which is true for basically everyone/everything. Maybe you have a glutton and a thieve, than you can consume more than you have... but when you have stolen it, you also have it, thus consuming what you have.

>philosoraptor.jpg

>>130448114
I'm surprised a fucking ancap didn't agree with you on this of all things.

>>130442952
>bottom right as corporate tyranny
You can't have corporate tyranny if their is no intervention into the market to benefit the corporations.

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>>130448343

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>>130445299
hey brah

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>>130442952
where the fuck does retard antifa go?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Q_qwPAVvc

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>>130448409
This is not what Adi died for 70 years ago.

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>>130444400
>libertarian marxism

>>130448829
Bottom left.

Politics is gay

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>>130447140

I'm aware that most people pushing this shit echo, yes

>>130443998
this is good

>>130443562
>Unironically believes that any of the presidential candidates are in different squares

>>130449626
Looks like it was made by a leftist.

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>>130449866

>>130450539
Good edit!

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>>130449626
>Actually, it's hebephilia

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>>130448916
But brooo Noam Chomsky is super smrt, he's gonna tear the system down!

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>>130450539

nailing the libtard hypocrisy on the head

>>130446644
>What the fuck does his nationality have to do with the politics of the progressive nigger Obama?
Because the Netherlands is a filthy leftist shithole you traitorous cuck.

>>130448114
Still not a left winger. Especially by most of the world's standards. Especially by your country's standards. Keynesian economics are not left wing.

>>130450539
>authoritarian
>having guns

>left
>having a lawn

>libertarian
>not having guns

>>130442952
> Government Tyranny

>Church and Corporate tyranny

>Corporate/Warlord tyranny

>Professional victim's tyranny.

Don't have much against Government Tyranny as long as there is no way to fuck off to other country with stolen money and intergovernmental relationships can be described as the "cold war that can become hot one".

Fuckers don't have much room to be degenerate when they themselves can become "opressed victims".

>>130444754
Brezhnev was kind of right though.
The amount of degeneracy that went AWOL in the 90-ies (and is kind of continuing even now, with Russian (((liberals))) and similar) certainly proves that the Soviet psychiatric care system was not totally "not legit".

>>130454506
A Keynesian economic system can easily be used for leftist ideologies like a social-democratic system as well. The left/right-wing spectrum also deals alot with social-issues, with liberal/egalitarian social issues being left-wing and conservative/hierarchial issues being right-wing. This dates back to when the left/ring-spectrum was founded in revolutionary France to represent the right-wing monarchists versus the left-wing liberal revolutionaries

>>130455018
Fascist countries, including Nazi Germany, generally have loose gun laws. This tends to work, despite being authoritarian, because the fascist support base are more rural people and property-owners, people who are naturally inclined to own guns as opposed to communists and other leftist ideologies which draw their support mostly from urbanites who naturally eschew guns.

>>130444922
Depends on whom purple put in charge, really. Ideal greek wartime despot...yes. Caesar...
No

>>130445694
At the lowest point of autoritarian libertarian axis is anarcho individualism, not ancap

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>>130444862
>Red square

Irony.
Red Square has something to fight for, since Marx was wrong on the whole "revolution from the advanced state". Even with Pol Pot, IIRC, there was a bunch of people (in North of Cambodia) that were pissed off and had nothing better to do, than go bloody.

In other words, usually, the "revolution" becomes real only when things are fucked up. (example: Bolsheviks and Imperial Russia)
If things are not TOTALLY fucked up, it's still has a risk of coup, but not that bloody one, at least initially (example: USSR - the main beneficiaries were actually the Party and Komsomol members who just grabbed the country for their own profit)

There will be revolution in the West, I believe, but it surely won't be communist - business have learned the lesson and doesn't go full feudal on the general population.

It will be nationalist to the core, though.

>>130444754
>>political views are mental illness
>Ok Brezhnev


What is anarcho individualism

>>130442952
>this is what ancomms actually believe

>>130448403
Corporations are capable to intervene in the market on their own.

>>130447606
>libertarian right
>not Eve online

>>130444868
Biased

>>130450412
I don't know about you, but it looks like it makes everyone sound ridiculous.

Taking private property from on everything person and giving it to some pleb who can't be bothered to get off his ass to save his own life is not "liberty" retard

>>130457385
Retarded and biased

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>>130457535
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>>130457466
You're right, purple is in fact, the best square.

>>130454506
>Keynesian economics are not left wing.
>AnCap flag
Are you actually retarded or just some kikebertarian LARPing as an AnCap? Keynesian economics are the very fucking definition of leftism. Any manipulation of the market is inherently socialist, as it tries to take away from the individual to benefit the "community" (most of the time that's the government) Obama and his healthcare dumbfuckery are socialist to the fucking core.

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>>130457893
Ancap is the first flag and looks cool.

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>>130449626
>actual libertarianism

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>>130443048
>unrestrained capitalism with no safeguards is liberty

>>130458510
>no safeguards
What is insurance?

>>130457466
Then let's kill the financiers. And everyone who will inherit.

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>>130458510
>a workers council killing you for free mutual transactions because they are capitalism is liberty

>>130446382
King Solomon?

>>130458510
safeguards? against what? people feeling the consequences of their own voluntary actions

>>130458308
>authoritarian left
>Hitler

Uh, no.

>>130445980
what the fuck

>>130444400

Social democracy and "Nordic capitalism" is the same. Also, it's closer to the center. Despite what Bernie Sanders says, the Nordics enjoy a lot of econonical freedom.

>>130453364
so good

>>130458698
Not mine, though I think it was looking more at economics. I only posted it cause the guy said that leftism appeals to four year olds and, well look at the bottom left corner.

>>130442952
>Liberty
OP is a faggot

I only deny capitalism because its an tool of the jews to control and degenerate western civilization

>>130443870
The blue square should be the surface of a boot

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>>130458510
>to preserve your liberty, we need to take away your right to free association
Now offering free helicopter rides.

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>>130458698
>nationalization of industry
>social programs
>public healthcare
>the well being of the collective above that of the indivdual
>not left wing
Uhhhm, no sweetie, Hitler definetely was authoritarian left.

>>130442952
>The only quadrant that is impossible is also the only quadrant that offers true liberty
Ahhh back to the eternal struggle I guess

>>130458656
Probably things like companies becoming larger and larger, absorbing and destroying all competition till they are the only ones left, usually by using money reserves to artifically reduce price in a location to outcompete smaller businesses, take them over, then increase prices. Things like that.

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by far the best I ever seen

>>130459132
What if we define business transactions as a separate class of transactions, then curtail those and only those? I'm not even in the quadrant, but it's just impractical, not impossible.

>>130459419
Care to translate?

>>130443998
Fedora should be on the green side but good otherwise

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The people is the highest political status

>>130459452
oh, indeed

I will try, but its full of Soviet-era memes

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>>130459419
subreme chard from de mosd ebin idiology :DDD

>>130459117
>advancement of race above all else
>social Darwinism
>no belief in the concept of equality, let alone internationalism
>first groups he attacked were actual leftists
>promoted religion over secularism

Fundamentally, the workers did not control the means of production, nor was that any sort of intermediary or end goal. The Nazi Charter of Labor gave employers complete power over their workers.

>>130459419
It's nice that I can't read

>>130449269
Underrated simply on effort

>>130444868
People in the blue-square are so far up their own assholes that they can't even make funny or objective political compasses. I guess that's what happens when internet arguments are your MO.

>>130442952
That is totally wrong, liberty is stuck in the center of all systems having to be ever fighting to remain free.

>>130459607
>means of production
Not all leftists are communists.

>>130457385
Pretty much right
At the same time I want to know why we can't ban Brown people

>>130458510
>no safeguards is liberty
yes

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>>130459183
>not being such a self-sufficient population that the transfer of wealth is so slow that no one has the patience or life span to take over every industry
3D PRINTERS BREH

>>130459799
Then the term leftist does not mean anything.

>>130459607
>>advancement of race above all else
>no internationalism
So Juche isn't considered left wing then?
>social Darwinism
This aspect was only incorporated in racial politics. The government took the part of nature and sorted "unfit" and unwanted people out in order to fasten the process. They saw useless people as not able to survive so they did the job themselves. If you were accepted you would benefit from "equality" within the community. The equality just was limited to one group.
>promoted religion over secularism
Yeah, they were traditionalists, never claimed Nazis were full on marxists, that's why them attacking "actual lefties" was a thing, they still had differences..

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>>130458656
Serious question for ancaps, I want to learn more about your philosophy. How would one protect culture or racial homogeneity in a ancap society? What would stop corporations allowing for the importation of 3rd worlders/cheaper labor/more consumers if they thought it would be economically beneficial?

>>130459117
>>nationalization of industry
Not true, only partially true in wartime but that tends to hold true for most ideologies. Just look up any of the companies during Hitler's reign, car manufacturers or gun and armanent companies, they were all held in private hands and many of them, like for example Porsche, Krupp or Mauser, survived the war.

>>social programs
>>public healthcare
>>the well being of the collective above that of the indivdual
>>not left wing
Right versus Left-wing is inherently about Hierarchy versus Egalitarianism, not collectivism versus individualism. Public Healthcare is left-wing, yes, but Public Healthcare + Eugenic policies becomes more right-wing.

>>130459945
So does right-wing not mean anything because not all right-wingers are ancaps or monarchists?

>>130444922

We have a silent agreement. We'll kill greens and reds first, then duke it out one on one.

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>>130460117
You can't import people onto my property without my permission, that violates the NAP.

>>130444904

?

>>130460117
Every person has the freedom of association and discrimination. Nobody would keep you from forming a strictly white community. People who join and then want to invite other unwanted people despite the will of the owner of the property can and should be removed. If you want to associate with niggers, you're free to do so, just don't expect others to be tolerant just because you are. Nobody has the duty to be.

>>130460138
Are Stalinists right wing then?

>>130447606
>authoritarian left
>magic dispensers create shit out of thin air with "science"

sounds about right

>>130460360
>pol825
How far is this rabbit hole?

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>>130444088

Good one. And wtf is with all the meme magic in this thread?

>>130460138
>Hierarchy versus Egalitarianism
Right and left wing are purely economic terms, anything else is way too vague. What's Stalinism then? you have a clear hierarchy with the vanguard party, yet it promotes "equality". Is it right wing? Is it left wing? One's for sure, it's collectivist.

>>130448018
dasaloopbbastimers

> Controlling what people can do with the fruits of their labour is Liberty
Uhm...I don't think it means what you think it means.

>>130459894
Well shit, this is the final solution to Anarcho-capitalism. Sounds like we need eugenics first though.

>>130460105
Only an absolute idiot would think that North Korea was even remotely leftist.

And no, the equality was not limited to one group. The employer's control over their employees was absolute, which you ignored in my previous post. Several times, Hitler reassured the bourgeois that they would be able to crack down on the workers who he himself exploited and lied to during his rise to power. "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." That is a direct quote of Hitler.

Traditionalism is inherently conservative, ergo right wing.

Ok, so theoretically, if they were actually left wing, why did they attack the socialists first? Just for shits and giggles? Just a weird coincidence?

>>130460251
No, right wing does mean something, as it is the prioritization of capital over labor. This has many different forms, such as capitalist 'anarchy' which is a fucking joke, and monarchism.

>>130460417

>Are Stalinists right wing then?

Judging from my experience with Stalinists, i'd say that the only reason they are not NatSoc is because Hitler attacked USSR.

They are very antisemitic, very conservative and very anti-degenerate. The ONLY left-wing thing that they have is that they don't like big business, corporations and especially bankers and usury, though. Also, they don't look at free meds and education as "gibsmedats" but rather the investment on behalf of the state.

More of the "I receive free education, I'm ok to work several years for the country with received specialty". Same with medical help - "I work my work, I receive full social packet (kindergartens, medical aid, anything that won't outright kick you out from the market) as return.

>>130460865
Controlling what other people do with the fruits of your financial tools is not liberty.

>>130461184
>Really communism has never been tried, real communism works and is good reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>130460507
Not very far, I only save the most quality of garbage.

>>130460597
Why the fuck do we even use left and right if everyone refuses to use the same meaning and when there's so much variance in economic principles that obviously doesn't form a 2D spectrum.

>>130461184
What about feudalism, which even under commie meme science doesn't have "capital"? What is that?

>>130461244
If they're not racialist they're not NatSoc.

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>>130460417
A little, Marxist-Leninism was pure leftist-authoritarianism and it basically was degeneracy and egalitarianism on steroids, of course this didn't work and Stalin, while still trying to hold some marxist legitimacy but also using Marxism to grab total power, made up his own ideology to fix Leninism adding some more right wing elements, basically resulting in some really malleable and incoherent form of statist totalitarianism.

Stalinism isn't really a ideology but more of a makeshift system of a new revolutionary elite to stay in power without the whole country crashing down on them within a couple years.

>>130461184
You're such a fucking materialist holy shit.

>>130461455
Feudalism is definitely right-libertarian. A central authority holds the rights to the means of production, but the majority of the profits go back to him, the owner, and he protects that with his own military force. The serfs have signed a contract to work on his land, of their own volition.

>>130461455
...of course feudalism has capital. What would be the point of owning land if it was not capital?

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>>130442952

>>130444642
Change gluttony and liar

>>130444642
Change gluttony and lust

>>130442952
>left-"""""libertarian""""""
>liberty
And what happens when someone decides they don't want to give to the glorious (((syndicate)))/(((commune)))/(((kibbutz)))? I'm absolutely sure you'd let them go like a true libertarian would, right anon?

>>130461244
stalinists are pretty much marxist-leninst

>>130461545
They just don't like kikes and niggers mostly. Same goes for West as well, though.

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>>130459452
>>130459599

>>130461693

> makeshift system

It pretty much describes the whole USSR up until Brezhnev.

>>130462889
Makhno was ok, but his system would crash one way or another.

>>130445174
Greed is personal enrichment, money, materialistic goods, etc. Inordinate desire to acquire or possess more than one needs
Gluttony is excessive insatiable desire for food or whatever, lack of self-control. Over-indulgence, over-consumption

>>130449626
wtf I love Stalin. I want the Wall, and the Gulag.

>>130462280
Yes. They are free to leave.

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>>130458468

>>130463664
Then you're not even in the green square. You're in the left part of the purple square. Green square is literally DNE. You can either be left or libertarian, but you can't be both.

>>130462889
Thanks man.

>>130443054
This image proves how evil the left is. Thanks shill

>>130463064
It describes almost all communism in general. Communism is an inherently flawed ideology, which is fine if you're an opposing anti-government revolutionary force because communist ideologues can just tell people some nice souding bullshit to have the people follow them without having anything to show for it but once communists actually grab the reins of power the communist ideas prove to be impossible to implement(full equality, abolition of the traditional family, dividing the nation up into autonomous soviet states, efficiently redistributing so they tend to subsitute all the failing ideas with some policy that they think might workwhile also keeping them in power leading to various patchworks of communism/socialism that are nothing like each other or the original idea.

Like Maoist China, moden China, Leninist Russia, Stalinst and post-Stalinist Russia, etc, are all quite different from each other with the exception of a powerful almost all-controlling government set up by the original revolutionary communists.

>>130445980
Liked

>>130446185
>quads
where?

>>130460117
What >>130460405 said.
Also, keep in mind, the beautiful thing with ancapism is, not only is the end result the closest to utopia we could ever get, but the road to getting there is also constructive and beneficial to the society.
The ancap utopia comes through the betterment of the individual and the society, and the gradual minimization of government and its powers. So, even if the utopia is unachievable, every step we take towards it betters our society, it doesn't worsen it like other utopist ideologies like communism.l (which requires pretty much the abolition of society as we know it).
t. minarchist

>>130466181
>but the road to getting there
>road
good one

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>>130466181
>Also, keep in mind, the beautiful thing with ancapism is, not only is the end result the closest to utopia we could ever get, but the road to getting there is also constructive and beneficial to the society.
>but the road to getting there is also constructive and beneficial to the society.
>but the road