I hear a lot of people saying that a transgender person has a

Perfectly sane people mutilate themselves and then commit suicide.

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>>130436913
When you use to look like this and then compulsively cut and drug yourself to look like OP's pic, that's mental illness.

have you ever tried screwing a bolt into a bolt?

or threading a nut through a nut?

Its not a mental illness, just a sexual fetish like scat

>>130436913
look at "her." Still need proofs?

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>>130437154

>tfw you're old enough to remember when he was an American hero.

How far we've fallen......

Look at their suicide statistics

>>130437402
I'm talking about scientific proof. Research that has been done.

>proof
they believe they are in the opposite genders body because they saw a dress they thought was prettty then mutilate their genitals and kill themselves

>>130436913
see >>130437494

>>130436913
Suicide rate, regardless of surgery, is 40%. That is over 2.5X as high as Schizophrenia.

It is a mental disorder and telling people it's not is like telling a Schizophrenic that it "really is their dead dead mother talking to them."

Stop abusing mental patients.

>>130436913
has it got a boyfriend yet? did anybody fuck its inverted dickhole thing?

>>130436913
If a person genuinely believes they are something other than what they are in reality and are prepared to mutilate their own genitals to satisfy these delusions I think it's safe to assume they are not of a fit mental state.

>>130437382
>steroid champs
Not my hero

>>130436913
sage

>>130436913

It's called schizophrenia.

You only think it's okay because it's "progressive".

For example: When they think they're a space alien, you think that's bizarre.

They're both flavors of the same illness, trans is based on a combination of fear and hate of self.

Which doesn't magically disappear after you transition.

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>>130436913
Narcissism.

The clinical, perverted kind. I don't mean perverted in a sex sense, I mean as in a twisted mind.

Being self-absorbed to an unhealthy level leads to auto-eroticism. The auto-erotic looks to satisfy their sexuality in themselves instead of others.

The next tier from regular auto-erotic is homosexuality, where you seek to have childless "sex" by masturbating with a body you can identify with. Basically, fags are eternal children having sex with themselves instead of pairing up with a mate and entering the next step of life: parenthood. (OH GOD, SCARY. I'LL HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND LIVE FOR OTHERS INSTEAD OF JUST MYSELF!)

Back to the point, the SHIT TIER of self-absorption is trans-sexuality. In men, it's the case where the narcissistic mother that had affected the trans-boys mind to the point where he is trying to crawl back up his mother's pussy and become her. He has become inside-out mentally and identifies himself with the woman he desires.

At this point, he is usually addicted to alcohol and drugs, and is a total mess. Acting out, self-centered attention whoring, failures at real world challenges, delusional and likely dangerous.

They will never be real women, because real women have the God given ability to create life, these anti-men are the ultimate perversions of creation.

Addict and narcissist behaviors go hand in hand. The transsexual is the superlative form of this cancer.

>>130436913
The proof is in the pudding. Thinking you're a boy when born as a girl, is a mental illness. Similarly, being born a human and thinking you're an attack helicopter is mental illness.

>>130436913

are they pushing the trans agenda in france? the gender-identity pseudoscience is starting to show up around here

>>130437814
Oh I don't think it's okay at all. I'm just trying to understand the problem better.

>>130436913
Well, if a person who's clearly a man thinks he's suddenly a woman and demands to be mutilated and drugged to actually make it so, that would count as classic mental illness.

>>130436913
Successful reproduction is an objective goal for all organisms. Cutting your dick off prevents you from reproducing, thus it is an objectively abnormal act.

>>130437926
Once I get into university next year I'll know. For now all I've seen is that the vast majority of people in France want to accept it.

>>130436913
>>>/lgbt/

Go read a trans thread and get back to us.

Last thread I read in that shithole was one where the trannies were lamenting the retirement of a specific doctor becuase their mutilated penis (their words, not mine) needed more surgery.

I started to shitpost but then I realized that it's for the best that they stay there and not leave under any circumstance because fuck that and forever left.

go on. have a look.

>>130436913
They mutilate their dicks, fuck their bodies up with enzymes not meant for them and dress up and try to act like trollops then demand everyone humours their delusions.

What more proof do you need, Gaston?

>>130437950

"Society tolerates it as acceptable" is more apt phrasing, apologies.

The issue angers me, because they all end up killing or mutilating themselves, and people seem to ignore that.

They're basically just telling schizos that it's okay to feed into their delusions.

>>130436913
Yes?

A man and a woman have a baby. This is nature.

Anything that deviates from that, is unnatural and therefore sick.

>>130436913
Their amazing suicide rates are all the proofs you need.

We can only hope they keep climbing.

>>130438234
I agree, and it's very reminiscent of pedophilia being progressively accepted with the small but growing LGBTP movement (oh god)

What is your definition of an illness and what kind of proof do you accept as an indicator of an illness? Not conversation can be had unless you answer these questions. Delete this thread and put the answer to both these questions in the OP. Thank you.

Gender dysphoria.

>>130438102

that's pretty sad, IMO it's about money and there is a lot of money to be made of millions of kids taking hormones/doing surgeries

No operation can change the chromosomes

Believing that one can change their biology just by mutilation of their genitalia

There are many differences between the sexes, men have larger hearts, have a different skeletal structure

Imagine a crime scene, detectives gather DNA evidence and the suspect is a man

But the perpetrator has had a sex change, do you honestly believe they're going to be looking for a woman based only on the DNA evidence?

Think about it, forget how you feel, science will determine your sěx not your feelings

All men are women before the chromosomes change, by default everyone is a woman it's just that some women are men

There is no changing of the sexes

>>130436913
its in he DSM you retard

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>>130438865
pic related

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>>130438920
an old tranny

>>130436913
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken

>>130436913
It is a psychiatric disorder: gender identity disorder.

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>>130438959
doing this to a kid should be considered child abuse

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>>130436913
What qualifies as a mental illness is itself subject to DSM approval, which in turn is based on politics. Hence why homosexuality is no longer a mental illness. Mental illnesses tend to be comorbid with one another- having one makes one more likely to have another relative to baseline rates, Both homosexuality and transgenderism tend to be comorbid with other mental illnesses.

TL;DR: It isn't, because the body that defines mental illnesses is in the pockets of progressives. Worrying on whether or not they are mentally ill really doesn't matter for this reason.

ITT: no proof

>>130439151
Gender dysphoria is in the DSM though

>>130437816
First time I encounter a real mexican specialist.

>>130436913
id say not all trannies are transgendered and so are ill.

i know plenty of people of all kinds, a lot are crazy sometimes.

>>130438428

I stopped caring about gay shit after they tagged trans onto it.

Completely different concepts.

The latter doesn't even know who they are.

>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof regarding that ?
A man wants to cut off his penis and dress like a woman.
HAHAHAHAHA NIGGER THAT'S MENTAL ILLNESS RIGHT THERE!!! HAHAHAHA

>>130439250
Correct. For now. Note that libfags say gender dysphoria is not a necessary precondition for transgenderism: not all trannys claim to have it, so the two aren't perfectly equivalent.

This is mostly semantics of course. I'd bet money that gender dysphoria will be taken off in time due to political pressure.

>>130436913
OP, I hear EVERY SINGLE TRANS PERSON say they were BORN THAT WAY. Always, and they will always have hundreds of links to 'scientific studies' backing up the *fact* they were born that way. I have never ever seen a trans person ADMIT they were preasured by society to become gay/trans because they were a beta/omega male who could not get laid with women even though that is almost always the case.

Kind of interesting how *proof* can be anything you want it to be

>>130439250
Well yes, how else are trannies going to get the government to cover their surgery.

>>130436913
Look at them, thats the proof right there.

>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof regarding that ?
Even if it's not mental illness it's still clearly going against what nature intended. They'd still be defective people.

>>130437653

debatable. He won in the mid 1970s, and although roids were around, they weren't prevalent in American sports yet. If he were and East German it'd be another story altogether.

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>>130436913
>wanting to cut off your leg because you think you don't need it.
>doctors say no, you're mentally ill, you need help.
>wanting to cut off your tits or dick because you wanna be a goy/gal.
>doctors say yes, will do, you're not mentally ill

>>130440102

You know damn well if you brought that argument they'd just start normalizing those basket cases too.

>>130440102
Why would they block their nipples out, instead of embracing their new male privilege.

>>130436913
because there are only 2 sexes, there are only genders and no ammount of hormones will turn you from one genetically assigned sex into the other. none. humans are mammals, so sex denotes either male or female (intersex aka hermaphrodite is a genetic defect, it is not a "3rd sex", 1 sex will always be more dominant). the word gender denotes exactly the same thing, it has simply been twisted by idiots to fit their idiotic delusions. your gender is not fluid, that is simply impossible. you are simply delusional if you claim it does. if you have XX chromosomes you are a female, if you have XY chromosomes you are a male. simple as that. you will then no doubt hear spergs cry "but what about intersex people!". well, intersex people can have XX, XY or both chromosomes, the difference is they are sterile and therefore unable to reproduce.

trans people are different as it is a mental disorder (with usually body dysmorphia). buck angel, born a girl, now a man. with a vagina. no, she is a girl who has taken a fuckload of male hormones in order to

morph her body into that of a male. blair white, a boy who took a lot of female hormones to morph their male body into that of a female. hormones are magical, but they do not turn you from 1 sex into another. they simply morph you into a more male/female version of yourself. the underlying genetics stay the same. assuming buck angel tubes produced eggs you could fuck her and get her pregnant. you could fuck blair white in the ass all day long and he'd never get pregnant. so there are only 2 sexes/genders, you can not TRANSition from one to another, you can only change your outward appearance. thus to claim you are now a man or a women after hormone treatment is delusional. simples.

>>130440102
mm titties slurpslurpslurpslurp

>>130436913
It's called Delusional Disorder, it's still in the DSM, and every single tranny meets every one of these criteria, check it:
>The patient expresses an idea or belief with unusual persistence or force.
>That idea appears to have an undue influence on the patient's life, and the way of life is often altered to an inexplicable extent.
>Despite his/her profound conviction, there is often a quality of secretiveness or suspicion when the patient is questioned about it.
>The individual tends to be humorless and oversensitive, especially about the belief.
>There is a quality of centrality: no matter how unlikely it is that these strange things are happening to him/her, the patient accepts them relatively unquestioningly.
>An attempt to contradict the belief is likely to arouse an inappropriately strong emotional reaction, often with irritability and hostility.
>The belief is, at the least, unlikely, and out of keeping with the patient's social, cultural and religious background.
>The patient is emotionally over-invested in the idea and it overwhelms other elements of their psyche.
>The delusion, if acted out, often leads to behaviors which are abnormal and/or out of character, although perhaps understandable in the light of the delusional beliefs.
>Individuals who know the patient observe that the belief and behavior are uncharacteristic and alien.

Genuinely thinking that you have a female brain but are in a male body, or the opposite is a mental illness and it's called gender dysphoria.
It's just a fact.

>>130440689
I blocked em out, because I don't want to be banned for posting nudity.

Transgender resource centers are mostly mental health centers full of counseling rooms even with observation mirrors.

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>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof regarding that ?

>>130436913
There is no such thing as "transgender."

A psychotic faggot who is pretending to be a woman is still a man.

>>130436913
They are male and think they are female. No further proof required.

Proof Op
130436913

>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof
>post proof in op-pic

>>130436913
They want to mutilate their penises in order to make a futile attempt at switching their gender

>>130436913
Scientific proof intact. Gender Identity Disorder is real. Throughout history there have only ever been two genders in the human species, and this is validated by consistent biological differences.
The ability to "identify as (x)" is purely a psychological phenomena, and has no basis in scientific or biological grounds. There is no hard-evidence to suggest that transgenders are infact the sex they claim to be, while the amount of evidence against their "desired sex" assumptions is staggering.

>for all of human history there are 2 genders
>within the past 10 years there is a massive push to make people think there are more than 2 genders
>LOL YOU HAVE TO PROVE ITS NOT REAL

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>>130436913
fuck off Kike, stop spamming us with slide threads
SAGE @ options please

>>130436913
Shill tell me, why do we try to cure the Anorexic patients? They identify with their disease, based on your trans theory we should really leave the Anorexics alone and embrace the fatties inside them, start making bathrooms with vomit stalls and allow the MSM to glamorize them. Isn't this the same mental disease, explain this to me!!

>>130436913
If Bruce wants to dress up like a woman and confuse the fuck out of his kids, God bless him. He should be able to do that

But all the fucking bathroom shit and the PC bullshit about taking him a her needs to quit.

You born a guy? Well you should use the mens bathroom and be called "him" or "he"

>>130437637
Don't you get it, goy? They suicide so much because people don't see them as the gender they are, and that is bullying. If people were forced to recognize them as the gender they are, it would go down. We just need to create a global safe space for them.

>>130436913
I dunno the only thing wrong with me is pretty severe anxiety and depression

>>130436913
>dude thinks he's napoleon
clearly a mental illness
>girl thinks she's cleopatra
into the clinic she goes
>woman thinks she's a fox
her brain is messed up
>guy thinks he's a girl
well, he's probably right about that

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>>130436913
YES FAGGOT

if your man and get turned into (((woman))) you still have y chromosome in every cell of your body. No matter what you do your a man at the genetic and cellular level. NIGGER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_Q_qwPAVvc

>>130449498
literally everyone knows this, retard. you just don't care.

>>130436913

You are asking an anonymous image forum to provide you knowledge? You're fucked already. Why not blowing your brains out?

>>130436913
I actually think its stupidity
Lack of vision

>>130436913
obvious

i don't care what you confession is, you have to do a bit of gymnastics to sincerely say otherwise.

If a mentally ill person had a delusion that they had a CIA spy chip in their head we wouldnt put one there to make it true. But for some reason when someone is deluded enough to think they are actually the opposite sex we decide to chop their penis off. Its a fucking obvious mental illness

>>130451188
this. Trangenders are like schizophrenics that get surgery instead of a pillbox

>>130451188

Checked.

I keep hearing the argument from post-op transgendered freaks how no amount of psychotherapy or pharmacology has been proven to help, only the transition helps...

>talked to one of them
>"anon, 6 physicians were overseeing my transition"

Imagine having to pay the salaries for 6 goddamn physicians via taxes for this bullshit.

>>130451625
that's because it literally is the only thing that works

>>130452123

Or so people think and are told to think.

>>130436913
Do you have any proof that people with any mental illness what so ever, has a mental illness?

Transgender (male to female) people are physically born male, while their brain are female. It's not meant to be like this, it isn't evolutionary rewarding behavior. Neither can they live 100% full lives like a heterosexual person.

>>130452218
no I literally looked for every possible option there was and none of them looked at all promising except for hrt. Believe me if I could have fixed it with a pill or therapy I would have.

>>130436913

> I hear a lot of people saying that a transgender person has a mental illness. Do you guys have proof regarding that ?

The proof is self-inherent using gender studies logic.

Claim 1: Gender is a social construct, therefore trannies can simply change their social designation.
Claim 2: Trannies allege to be born with a different gender social construct'.

3: Identity social constructs are by definition not something hereditable.

Since those are mutually self-exclusive definitions, the only rational conclusion is mental illness.

>>130452439
So if you took a tissue sample from a tranny, the brains would have two X chromosomes?

Unlikely.

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>>130453546
I would assume that you would see that their brain looked like the brain of a woman. Maybe not more so than that of a man.

>think you're born in the "wrong" body
>this isn't a sign of mental illness

You fucking figure it out.

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Cases like this

I'm really surprised nobody's brought this up yet this thread

What defines gender is chromosomes, in other words biology. There's no opinion or politics involved.
If you think you're woman in a mans body then something is wrong with your brain.
We call that mental illness or brain damage.

>>130437852
Pretty much this. We can observe people who think they are animals or inanimate objects and easily identify that as mental illness. Yet when we have a man who believes he is a woman, we cannot? It makes no sense.

do you have proof that autism is a mental illness?

>>130454274
when gender dysphoria is left untreated it keeps twisting the mind until the person is an unrecognizable freak.

>>130436913
The DSM-5

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>>130436913

Anecdotal but in my case it was caused by a hormone imbalance due to my shitty thyroid of all things. I was quite literally 'born that way' - i.e sick - and it took getting fucking cancer and having it cut out to cure it. I've lost the sauce but it involves a disruption of sex hormone binding globulin which then severely fucks with your testosterone levels.

Given how much that can fuck your life up, and how desperate many of these people appear, I don't believe it is a mental illness but a physical one that is never properly dealt with. I wouldn't be surprised if the increase in xenoestrogens in everything is somehow behind it all. That would at least seem to explain the sudden rise in this trans shit.

>>130454239
There is no serious separation between mind and body in current scientific understanding. You cant be born in the "wrong body" you can only have a fucked up brain that tells you that

>>130454487
So yeah it's a mental illness

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>>130436913
Are you seriously that retarded?

According to the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) which is the American Psychiatric Association's classification and diagnostic tool, trans people are literally mentally ill. The DSM is used by you know... medical doctors, psychiatrists, psychologists etc... you know... people who went to medical school and are legally allowed to diagnose, treat, and prescribe medication to people...

Is that not proof? Are you honestly so radically ignorant that you haven't heard of the DSM before? Do you know what a psychiatrist even is? Do you even know what a fucking medical doctor is?

You are a stupendous moron and should be ashamed for asking such a monumentally idiotic question.

>>130452552
Did anyone give you your actual biological sex hormones before they gave you the different ones? If not then you cant say nothing worked because the obvious treatment wasnt tried

did he cut off his dick?

>>130441597
While I do agree as a whole that it is a mental illness:
>that pic
>correlation doesn't equal causation

Though again it is probably more than just happen stance that both are stats are attributed to that state.

>>130436913

> Is man

> Think hes woman

> Q.E.D.

>>130455103
no shit

>>130455142
>calling people dumb
>muh dsm
>incorrects summarizes the changes in the dsm5 from dsm4
lol k

>>130455150
my testosterone was high as it was. I hated it. I was really fucking masculine and it made me want to peel layers of my flesh off until I was dead.

http://archive.is/HKN9L

>transgenders want the DSM-5 classification to be reclassified so they can get health insurance to pay for their transition
>tfw gender dysphoria is still mental illness (as it should be)

>>130454497

For now, until the transgendered frankenstein monsters pressure the DSM-5 to cave.

Is being gay a mental illness too?

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>>130455833
>an officially recognized mental illness is not a mental illness at all cuz you called someone dumb and I say so!!!

If you aren't trolling... I would recommend you seek professional help at your earliest convenience.

Might as well say schizophrenia isn't real... or anxiety disorder is just some fake nonsense in "muh dsm".

Body mutilation = normal
Delusions = normal
Denial of incontrovertible biology = normal

Yea... you sure are a genius there buddy... you sure showed me!

>>130456490

It used to be classified as such.

> The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), the psychiatric disorder guidebook, used to include homosexuality as a mental illness. In 1973, they changed the diagnosis to "sexual orientation disturbance," and then removed it completely in 1987, largely due to gay rights advocates.

>>130439050
>should be considered child abuse
Should be considered a fucking crime against humanity

>>130457122
???
You don't think she's pretty?

>>130436913
Yeah: They were born the a sex opposite of which they mistakenly identify.

Takes some seriously broken almonds to think that this behavior is normal.

>>130436913
Look up gender dysphoria retard

>>130453091

BP

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>>130437816
This.

See the film Alien: Covenant for more details.

>>130436913
>Altering my bio-chemistry and mutilating my genitals into a set of new, fake ones will make me feel whole and "right"

There ya go

Only some of them have literal mental illnesses. The rest have figurative mental illnesses.

>>130436913
He cut off his johnson.

>>130448471
Or maybe they realize life sucks no matter what gender you are. Then the feeling that if they hadn't mutilated their genitals they would have still felt the same way, kills them.

>>130436913
transgender or gender dysphoria is literally in the DSM 5, the most up to date textbook on mental illness...

>>130437816

This. We must find a solution to the SODOMITE QUESTION. I recommend woodchippers.

>>130436913
>Wanting to mutilate their body
Its in the name you literal autist

>>130437639
I think it is a lesbian

>>130440102
Destroyed perfectly nice pair of titties. Still has that woman's hips.

>>130436913
yeah. they say they are one thing when they are clearly another. its both denial and narcissism, with a dash of self loathing.

>>130440102
Why would someone want to destroy that rack though?

Tfw you literally kill someone. Become a woman and then declare that gay marriage is bad. Say that he wants to be called a he right before getting a sex change operation to become a she...

>>130436913
Because as a man, you cant be a women. And as a women you cant be a man. If you say otherwise, youre a nut case

>>130458779

Actually:

>The DSM called transgender identity "sexual deviations," in 1968. In 1980 it was "psychosexual disorders," and in 1994,"sexual and gender identity disorders." The DSM-5 changed the listing of transgender to "gender dysphoria" in 2013 (though it remains classified as a mental illness today).

http://archive.is/HKN9L

>>130459297

Literal mental illness.

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>>130438612

My trans gf :) but i like her so much

>Physically is a man
>Mentally believes they're a woman
>Not a mental illness
How does that make sense... It's common sense that being transgender is a mental illness.

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>>130436913
>asking this
>on /pol/

Nobody has proof, its all just gut feefees on preconceived notions that people should behave according to their appearance.

These people would be spouting that blacks should stick to picking cotton instead of pursuing high education, well, because, uh, they were born black, DUH. Same uneducated white ignorance in a different era.

People should talk about how a trans person should feel if a) they're trans and b) there's no other option, just fucking kill yourself if you're cis and think you deserve an opinion on trans rights.

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>>130459863
You're reaching levels of leaf posting that shouldn't even be possible

>>130437639
Think he gets plowed by another tranny. So basically he is gay and instead of coping with it mutilated his dick.

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>>130436913
Gas yourself, you deserve to die painfully.

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>>130459863

>People should talk about how a trans person should feel

>>130436913
is there any proof autism is real? not just a list of arbitrary behaviours???

>>130436913
What proof would satisfy you?

A biological man cannot become a biological woman. Biological men mutilate their genitals and do lasting harm to their bodies through medically unnecessary hormone treatments because despite facts and logic they believe they can become a biological woman.

Sounds pretty crazy, no?

>>130452123
>cutting my pecker off wasn't the magic bullet
a. admit you fucked up
b. continue the insanity

>>130453787
>>130454487
>>130454274
>muh gender dysphoria spook

It's a bullshit made up "illness" to justify tranny degeneracy.

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>>130451188
Schizophrenic patient claims he is the second coming of Jesus. Welp, guess we're gonna have to take his word for it, get the Pope over here.

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>>130459653
Saved, great pic

>>130437382
He looks like a fag even before transitioning lmao. Too bad he didn't start earlier he would have actually looked good versus the plastic surgery monster she looks like now.

>>130436913
I'm trans and I don't care whether it's a mental illness or not. I've already transitioned and look like my desired sex so it doesn't really affect me more day to day but it definitely had a negative impact on my day-to-day life when I was still in the closet and when I didn't pass. I think a lot of the reason people don't want it to be a mental illness is because they think they aren't "crazy" and we aren't really considering schizophrenics, people with bipolar, and borderline peeps. But you have to admit that 1) it is definitely abnormal and 2) not wanting to classify trans as a mental illness feeds into the negative stigma of people with mental illness as just "being crazy" and really there are a lot of people with mental illnesses and disorders who are good people but just pulled a really shitty lotto of genetics/brain development/childhood. There's nothing wrong with having a mental illness but trying to lie and distance yourself from it just because you don't want to be associated with "those people" is pretty shitty.

And I think medical care providers understand that if you have sex dysphoria there's a lot of negative shit going on in your head mentally. Right now the best outcomes is using hormone therapy and surgeries and so that's how we treat it.

>>130436913
Prior to the DSM5 this shit was classified as Gender Identity Disorder.

Once again, PC rules now call it a range of soft names.

>>130462769
>Too bad he didn't start earlier he would have actually looked good versus the plastic surgery monster she looks like now.
>she
Begone, freak.

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>>130452439
>while their brain are female.

This is impossible. That's like saying you're born with the left arm of a black guy while the rest of you is white. You can't be born with the brain of the opposite sex. The brain is just as much of an organ as the rest of the body. The brains of males and females are completely different and distinct to their sex. All humans are by default female; it is the introduction of the Y chromosome that makes genetic blue print to move on with making a male. Not only does this include forming a male body and male genitals but also a male brain.

All Transmen have male brains. The fact that THEY FEEL LIKE WOMEN is a mental disorder. The true trans are suffering from a form of dysphoria. It is a mental discomfort that is focused on blaming certain features of your body as "deformed." This is the same condition anorexic people have where instead of believing the are the wrong gender they believe they are the wrong weight. That's why when an Anorexic gets rail thin they still perceive a fat person in the mirror. Their perception of themselves becomes an obsession to the point of it being the only focus in their lives until they commit suicide as well for being "too fat."

Don't even try pulling the XXY garbage. Pic related.

>>130439015
Haha

>>130462769
>And I think medical care providers understand that if you have sex dysphoria there's a lot of negative shit going on in your head mentally. Right now the best outcomes is using hormone therapy and surgeries and so that's how we treat it.

Are you aware that your transition only increases your chances of a full mental break down and suicide? Are aware that your transition is only a mask just to "trick" a certain part of your mind into thinking it is what it wants? Are you aware that this "trick" is only temporary and that your mind will catch on and punish you for it?

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>>130436913
I hear a lot of people saying that a transspecies person has a mental illness. Do you guys have proof regarding that ?

t. anon from 5 years in the future

>>130436913
Proof- has dick. Thinks is woman. Mystery of the Pole Vaultng Tranny has been solved.

>>130462769

>a lot of negative shit going on in your head mentally
>so let's add some more hormones and chemicals to the mix
>what can go wrong?

>>130436913
They kill themselves order of magntiudes greater than a heterosexual person. Suicide is a mental disorder.

>>130436913
Do I have proof that an endocrine disorder / hormonal gland dysfunction, a biological abnormality, affecting the brain and the behaviours of the individual, is a mental disorder?
Nigger that's the textbook definition of a mental disorder.

>>130440102

Actually they have cut off the arms and legs of people with Body Dismorphia (sic) who claimed they should not be a whole person and one doctor blinded his patient who said she wanted to be born blind

I always think about the theory of evolution when I watch all this retarded SJW bullcrap on this subject how are we supposedly an evolving species when our brains have became so fucked up we have people being born and then later on thinking they are not the right gender this just seems complete and utter madness to me and how does it fall in with the theory of evolution????

>>130436913
They want to inject themselves with synthetically produced hormones and cut off their genitals. Does that sound sane to you?

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>>130455262

Supposedly in February

so I fixed the meme

>>130462962
Sorry didn't mean to interrupt your anti-trans hugboxing

>>130464266
People who say this are coming from a study that was (unsuprisingly) interpreted incorrectly by the masses and now is parroted like "vaccines cause autism." fyi a study (published by one of those anti-science fundie groups) compared the statistics of the suicide rate of the normal population versus the transgender population, citing that our suicide rate is higher because of hrt, which doesn't make sense if you critically think. You know but people don't care because they read the abstract and then draw their own conclusions on what a study said. Because it turns out that hrt administration done by multiple other studies comparing suicide rates in trans people pre-hrt versus post-hrt that suicide rates drop significantly after hormone therapy. I'm too lazy to cite anything but they're easy enough to find if anyone cares, also none of you fuckers really give a shit about citations since you're just reposting citationless infographs

>>130464472
So why do people receive medical attention? Surely we shouldn't be filling them with chemicals, epi, beta-blockers, when their body is already *damaged* enough as it is? The more you learn about antidepressants, antipsychotics, anticonvulsants, other meds commonly thrown around for mental shit, HRT is a fucking cake walk. Those drugs have some fucking awful side affects, compared to hrt which is changing your dimorphism and some loose cancer association, everything's loosely associated with getting cancer one way or the other so it really means nothing. Not to mention these are some super basic hormones that have been prescribed for 150+ years in various forms for various reasons, so easy to monitor even your retarded gp couldn't manage to fuck up. After been on the market that long they can't even find anything risky about them except some shit about slightly increasing your cancer risk 40+ years down the road, which is almost like a joke to me

>>130436913
>ask pol if others have mental disorders

>>130436913
I have mentioned this before alot of times on this forum. Humans are born to become either a man or a woman. Both of the sexes develop their brain in a certain way. Sometimes though a man or a woman may develop their brain in a bit stranger way. These people often find themselves to become homosexuals, transsexuals or anything else but heterosexuals.
In short; everyone who isnt heterosexual have a neurological disorder.

>>130436913

pic related is proof enough.

>>130437816
this is the best answer

>>130436913
Only in a reality as screwed up as this one do we need "proof". Only in this world do we need to "codify" shit that humanity has taken for granted and known for the past 30k years.

>>130456493
APA: The DSM-5 [the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, published by the American Psychiatric Association] no longer lists “gender identity disorder” as a diagnosis but instead refers to “gender dysphoria.” Why and how did this come about, and what is the difference between the two terms?
Bockting: "Gender dysphoria" is a term that reflects more accurately than gender identity disorder when an individual is distressed about a conflict between their sex assigned at birth and their gender identity/role. "Gender identity disorder" suggests that their gender identity is disordered, yet having any gender identity, including a transgender identity, is not a disorder. However, having any gender identity, including a transgender identity, is not a disorder. Rather, the distress that some transgender people may experience at some point in their lives may be of clinical concern and can be alleviated through clinical management. The change in the DSM from gender identity disorder to gender dysphoria was a way to depathologize having a gender identity that differs from one’s sex assigned at birth and recognize the concern and clinical care that transgender individuals may need to achieve comfort with their gender identity, their body and gender role
http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2015/11/psychology-transgender.aspx

Gender dysphoria is not the same as gender nonconformity, which refers to behaviors not matching the gender norms or stereotypes of the gender assigned at birth. Examples of gender nonconformity (also referred to as gender expansiveness or gender creativity) include girls behaving and dressing in ways more socially expected of boys or occasional cross-dressing in adult men. Gender nonconformity is not a mental disorder. Gender dysphoria is also not the same being gay/lesbian

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria

Dont fucking talk shit if you cant even invest 2 minutes on your own debate

>>130436913
Autogynephilia is a sex-fueled mental illness.

Basically we get off on feeling dainty and submissive or crossdressing (me mostly) or imagining we have female parts. Ray Blanchard was right.

Basically we're hardwired to get aroused by being a dainty sex object and assuming the female role. Most trannies fall under this and are in tremendous denial. Disregard whatever they say about it not being about sex.

>>130437382
Yeah...kinda.

>>130436913
self mutilation is a sign of some one being disturbed. you cut your dick off your not right in the head

>>130436913
Do you have proof that water is wet?

>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof regarding that ?

yes, there is a study called Sexuality in the human male by Alfred Kinsey

you should read it, data does not lie

>>130436913
>denies biological reality
>not mentally disordered

It's not really that hard to figure out. The normalization of 'trans' as a legit thing and not a mental disease is a major disservice to these people. Look up Paul McHugh, not some right wing quack / culture warrior but a psychiatrist from Johns Hopkins.

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>>130471674
>not knowing the historical context of DSM definitions and or alterations in regards to and result of a bunch of mentally ill faggots and transgender filth protesting the government and manipulating the media

"muh feelings" are more important than science pertaining to certain things these days...

Don't fucking talk shit if you don't even know the relevant context (historical or otherwise) on your own debate

>>130471674
Are you not aware that the vast majority of psychiatrists (and other relevant medical professionals) agreed that being transgender IS a mental illness itself and typically associated with others? Because of the screeching of the mentally ill however, their medical determinations were overridden and compromise was forced.

Gotta love how much influence a bunch of faggot trans fuckers have when they scream about their feelings and then the Jews back them up and push narratives in the media!!!

Please kys

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>>130436913
>proof
That person has a penis

>>130471928
Blanchard is a fucking idiot and everyone laughs at him.

He is stupid on the level of: If you give a boy a doll or a girl train or change the color of their toy from blue to pink, they magically become a different sex.

AGP is made up bullshit.

Paul McHugh is a dumb fucking idiot too.
For example: McDumbfuck believes ACTUALLY BELIEVES you can just stop being a straight man right now. You can just go into the street and start sucking dicks and become gay because he believes being gay is a choice. Therefore you being straight is a choice. Therefore if I forced you at gunpoint to start sucking dicks, youd be perfectly okay with it because you can make up the choice to enjoy it and because you aren't enjoying it, you are purposely making yourself feel bad.

Sounds like not biased logical factual fucking thinking to me.

He also thinks that priests fuck little kids because they are choosing to be homosexuals not that they are kid fuckers.

So if you want to be buttbuddies with a guy that thinks people shove their cock down little kids throats because they are gay not because they are pedophiles then I guess go ahead.

>>130474348
So let me get this right...
you wanted to use a source
then you used it incorrectly
then I provided the actual source for your argument
now youre saying NAH DAWG THAT SOURCE IS DUMB
okay well I guess you defeated yourself? congrats?

Notice these people describe their illness the same way anorexics do.
>When I look in the mirror I hate what I see.

This lady is trans-disabled. She believes she was born to be blind, so she found a psychologist willing to help blind her with drain cleaner.
https://youtu.be/SAEmoLcoAqw

>>130436913
>See dsm5 "gender dysphoria"

>>130476339
trans-disabled is not a thing.
that is mutilation.
being a normal functioning guy becoming a normal functioning girl or whatever is not the same thing as being a normal functioning girl and throwing acid on your face.

Just because you add a prefix to something doesnt make it trans-related.

>she found a psychotic deranged person willing to dump chemicals into her eye socket and they should both be locked away for life'

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>>130436913
Define mental illness, and lets go from there

nigger faggot.

While your at it, define man and woman.

>>130477035
>Cut off dick = not mutilation
>Cut off legs = mutilation

>Use chemicals to blind yourself = unacceptable
>Use chemicals to feminize yourself = acceptable

Seems legit

>>130477035
Wow don't be a bully, anon. This brave woman has science to back up her claims, as well as a psychologist. Who are you to say she's not been born in the wrong body?

>>130475757
You obviously don't know what constitutes an improper use of a source and you obviously don't know the relevant history in regards to this issue and the DSM. Kys

>>130475757
I assume you're either not a native English speaker or you simply have poor reading comprehension... your analysis on my comments and what they mean are so removed from reality and so ridiculously incorrect, I can only assume it's the result of what I just mentioned or perhaps because you're simply a monumental dullard.

Do you know what "historical context" means? I'm betting that you're either an imbecile or just weren't aware of the relevant information in regards to actual medical determinations about the transgender issue and what factors influenced what ultimately went into the DSM about it.

Other anons in this thread are aware of what I've said... one of them besides me responded to you... are you just one of those types of people who can't admit being incorrect even when it can be verifiably confirmed (as in this case) and thus end up spewing verbal diarrhea in a feeble attempt to defend yourself and claim others are wrong?

You either need to read more carefully, or gain a better understanding of English... or just get your head examined.

You are laughably silly. You're like one of those people who won't change their minds about something no matter evidence is presented and just revert to autistic nonsense defenses and somehow think you're correct while everyone else is wrong and all confirmed verifiable facts are simply wrong. Laughably silly sir... laughably silly.

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>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof regarding that ?

>proof
>yes
>pic related

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>>130436913
>Do you guys have proof regarding that ?
OK, look at this beauty and tell me if this is normal behaviour.

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>>130454274
I have noticed their is a link between extreme autism (larping tranny level) and plush feminine carton figures

like this shit and my little pony, frozen, ect.. is there juts something in the autist brain that is triggered by the sight of extremely famine and cute girly things and mental train wrecks

>>130436913
Literally gender dysphoria. Look at the (((DSM))).

This simple

Cutting your penis off and inverting it does not

Let me repeat

Does not

Give you a vagina

If you think it does then you are retarded

>>130436913
>pump loads of hormones into a persons body
>because they don't "feel right"
>claim stigmas make them depressed
>commit suicide 7 times the rate of the rest of the population

But enough about steroid active bodybuilders, what did you want to talk about, OP? Oh, what's that, same suicide rate? Active my almonds pls

>>130477633
Stop fucking memeing and think about the ACTUAL reality.

Any real trans person wants to be in a normal body of the actual other sex.
They "cut off their dick" because thats the best they can do.
Every male to female transsexual wants a real vagina they just settle for what they can get and others are even against that because its not real.

They dont want any of those things but thats all that exists currently.
If FTMs and MTFs could switch bodies they would without question.
If they could get their brain put in a female body they would without question.

See youre caught up in memes instead of the actual underlying happenings.

If a MTF could get a lab grown vagina made from their own cells, they wouldnt take prefence over someone cutting their dick off and nightmare before christmasing it into a vagina.

Youre just upset because you see and believe what you want to believe instead of the factual truth of what is actually happening.

The whole thing is rendered moot if we can just replace peepees and bodies.

Youre just caught up on the whole thing because you believe your body is sacred or some shit. But you wouldnt bat an eye at anyone else deciding to swap their body out through body modification. Even if we take the mental illness argument to its conclusion, all of this is just extreme body modification and youre a pansy conservitive faggot being an obese christian soccer mom offended that her whore of a daughter got pierced ears. Youre just upset that people want to do it right now and the results arent to your liking. They dont meet some arbitrary standard you have. You want to decide how other people control their bodies. Youre insecure about your body and the holy sanctity of it. Other people's freedom upsets you. The terminology offends you. Youre so insecure about trusting people in your life that youre terrified youre going to put your dick in a man's asshole or something. You live in this sort of abstract reality of half-truths.

>>130436913

Are you serious?

What sane person wants to lop off their own dick?

>>130478479
I disagree with all of the current "transexual" studies. They are all inheritently flawed because they have all do "studies" on people with no factual basis on anything.

What we have is a bunch of "studies" done on every faggot mother fucker in the entire spectrum of the transgender faggotry umbrella.

There is no control for any of these factors.
There is no control for the lack of medication used.
There is no control for the literal horse piss people were taking prior to bioidentical estrogen being made.
There is no control for any difference between a craigslist cocksucker, a 55 year old "transgender" in diapers, and a 15 year old transgirl whos been on bioidentical estrogen their whole life.

Its all fucking propaganda fueled unscientific garbage.
To cite any of this stuff is completely stupid.

Have fun with your pedo-supportive harvard scientist lol

>>130482115
Any REAL transabled person wants to be in a normal body of a naturally disabled person.
They break their limbs purposefully instead of accidentally because that is the best they can do.
Every abled to disabled trans person wants to be disabled normally they just settle for what they can get and others are even against that because its not real.

They dont want any of those things but thats all that exists currently.
If ATDs could switch bodies they would without question.
If they could get their brains put in a normally-disabled body they would without question.

See youre caught up in ideology instead of the actual underlying happenings.

>>130436913
They are one thing and think they're the other.

Their brain is not correct to their body. That's a mental illness. If someone barks like a dog and acts like a dog, they're not a dog. They're crazy.

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>>130482754
Two Dudes Wrote A Fake Penis Study and Got It Published to Slam Gender Research
>"Penis is a social construct and causes global warming."
>Part of the fault may fall on the open-access, pay-to-publish model
>The rest of the fault is on the entire academic enterprise collectively referred to as 'gender studies'
>flawed, weak, or incorrect papers get published in practically all disciplines, including medicine and math
http://archive.is/AWW9m

>>130467149
>Right now the best outcomes is using hormone therapy and surgeries and so that's how we treat it
Is that what your doctor said, by the way? Dude, you got fucking Jewed® hardcore by your doctor. What a classic!

>>130482956
Purposely breaking your body instead of having a normal functioning body is literally the definition of having a mental illness.

it is the polar opposite of what a trans person is saying.
"My body is female. Please return my body to normal functioning,"
vs
"My body is working perfectly. Please break it."

Sure a trans person might be become infertile or whatever but that is a side effect that they have to live with. Its not something they want. A MTF wants to be a woman. They want to be able to have babies. They want to be a mommy. But because current science cant give them that, they have to live with this tragedy.

But if offered this, every single one of them would always take this.

>>130484357
"My male body is working perfectly. Please physically and/or chemically castrate it,"
vs
"My body is abled. Please return my body to normal functioning."

Sure a transabled person might be wheelchair-bound or whatever but that is a side effect that they have to live with. Its not something they want. A ATD wants to be disabled. They want to use crutches. They want to be blind. Because no accidents have come their way and made them so, they have to live with this tragedy.

But if offered this, every single one of them would always take this.

Trans people are mentally ill until scientistis figure out why someone is trans. Is that too hard to accept? I mean down syndrome and retards were left to die in old times because people didn't understand it. At least trans people arent burned as heretics today. Just shut your mouths up and stop fucking shit up.

>>130436913
I want to be a toaster.

do you have any proof that I am not mentally ill?

>>130485298
>"My body is a toaster. Please return my body to normal functioning."
>Slits two large holes into self because that is the best science can do
>If you could switch your brain into a toaster, you would take it
>But, for now, you have to live with this tragedy.

>>130483354
exactly and theres that on top of it
you cant discuss anything anymore
everyone is just labeled a nazi and almost all of the studies are typically funded by pharmaceutical companies
people will just come and interrupt you and scream at your speeches and pull fire alarms and all kinds of shit if they disagree
students will be groomed by professors and people are labeled nazi's and everything else

>>130467149
>free speech
>after deliberation we came to the conclusion that trannies are demented
>"this is a big box because it doesn't follow my ideals"

Proof of that ad so much more are in here.
http://archive.is/LRe05

>>130438959
Sauce?

>>130484357
>Normal functioning
A lifetime subscription service of hrt is not normal functioning. The lifetime of maintenance required for and the myriad of post-surgical complications involved with a tranny vagina is not normal functioning.

>>130441008
>>130440102
So can you post just her tits? They look pretty good.

>>130486548
Never mind reverse image search did it

>>130437115
Fpbp

>>130438959

IT PUTS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN!

>>130437494

so you're telling me when people encourage this kind of behavior, they're literally telling people to kill themselves?

>>130487217
No. It's proof trannies are mentally ill. No sane person kills themselves. Only severely depressed an emotionally unstable do. Mental health issues often come together which might explain why so many trannies are chronically depressed.

>>130436913
Yea, it's self evident. Mental illnesses are disordersthat affect your mood, thinking and behavior. A biological man who believes he is a female is utterly and transparently mentally ill, and when encouraged, the affected person's life is extremely likely to end in suicide.

>>130484862
>let me parrot back shit instead of listening to the argument

Youre still talking about side effects of currently available treatment vs reality.
I can do that too.

People who have brain cancer have to go through cancer treatment which has side effects.
People who have brain cancer wish they had nanobots that just destroyed the cancer but we do not.
THEREFORE people who are schizophrenic and swallow large amounts of painkillers to attempt suicide because they are mentally ill should be given cancer treatments because they too have a brain illness.

Youre a dumb nigger.

>>130436913
Look in the DSM5 you stupid nigger. Literally a mental illness.
>..do you have proof...?
Fuck off

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>>130488220
equating cosmetic surgery to treatment for a terminal illness

>>130436913
You don't even need to go that far with it, just ask why snowflakes now-a-days need to have an interesting and new gender to describe them instead of developing any form of personality.

Or rather substituting it for their personality.

>>130488220
The point is that your arguments are bullshit because I can easily make them support something you oppose by changing around a few words.

>Youre a dumb nigger.

At least I'm not a tranny

>>130486483
Again these are side effects due to our limited scientific accomplishments.
There are only two possible conclusions.

Transgender people are right and are working functional brains with a fetal neurological disorder much like people are born savants with a working but dysfunctional brain.

Transgender people are wrong and their brain is misfiring.

Either one could be proven right in the future but both are treated currently with a lifetime of hrt. If we could just fix their brain we would do it. If we could just fix their body we could just do it and it would be done and over with either way.

We would not then put that person under a lifetime of hrt just because.
It is only symptoms and available treatment.

This line of thinking is just a more evolved version of a lack of understanding. In the past youd pray to go to heal your burns.
Then youd put water and leaves on it.
Then youd put burn ointment.
Now you can literally spray fucking flesh onto your arm that will grow and replace your damaged flesh.

Saying YOU MIGHT RUN OUT OF LEAVES OR WATER SO YOU SHOULD JUST LET YOUR FLESH BURN YOU WERENT BORN WITH LEAVES ON YOU is primitive and stupid.

>>130436913
They are male but they think they are woman. Looks like a mental issue to me

>>130489026
There has been some success in treating trannies with pimozide, but that's not nearly as profitable.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
>The successful treatment of a gender dysphoric patient with pimozide.

>>130488799
Its like specific words have specific meanings and changing those words to different words changes the meaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CS7j5I6aOc

>>130491158
Its like the context in which said words are used makes the situations they are describing equivalent

(Insert meme here)

>>130489738
>muh profits
Nigger estrogen is $10 total drug cost.
Pharma doesnt give a shit about that.
How much is the total drug cost for the 20 drugs they can get fat fucks too take for their cholesterol and diabeetus?
Gotta get dat 1% of the 1% of the lgbt community.
So much jew golds.

Pizomide was given to a ONE SINGLE FUCKING guy who was a fucking crossdresser and faggot and wasnt a trans person. It was a case study of 1 person.
Do you know anything about anything?
A case study of 1 person with no specifics given at all is completely and utterly fucking retarded to draw any conclusions from.
"An adult male patient with a borderline learning disability presented with cross-dressing and a strong wish to undergo a sex change."

So basically they gave pizomide to chrischan who crossdresses as a lady and is retarded and through the power of binuaral beats ripped open his own infected asshole and was cured!

Quick alert everyone of the discovery and slap transgender on it and autistically screech as loud as you can!

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>>130436913

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>>130491682
>Millions of people x $10 per month ain't no thang
On a side note, while I was digging through lgbt funding I noticed that a percentage of the money goes towards pro immigration. Many of these manufacturers also produce hiv/aids treatments. Trannies being 4 times more likely to be infested with stds will increase profits in these sectors as well as the increased std rates from third world immigrants. Coincidence?

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>>130491158
Transgendered:
>My body is not what I think it should be and I am going to physically/chemically alter it accordingly

Transabled:
>My body is not what I think it should be and I am going to physically/chemically alter it accordingly

One is "legit" while the other is not.
You can't explain that.

>>130492677
>millions of people
Nigger how many people do you think 1% of the lgbt community is?
Its probably something like 30k people if that.
The aids thing is because they lump every faggot under the transgender umbrella into those statistics. Anyone who is gender nonconforming and sucks dicks on craigslist while wearing a tutu is in on that statistic.

Also any "trans" person like the head of GLAD etc in his 50s see: Ugly fucking drag queen transvestite streetwalker stealing the transgender movement to legitimize how they JUST HAD TO SUCK DICK for the $10 hrt meds and drink horse piss are the people included in this statistic.

They are gross ass fucked up slags so of course they have to suck dick for a living. But just because they are thrown into this statistic doesnt mean they actually take the medication because surprise! they arent actually fucking transsexuals and dont have gender dysphoria. They are just lumped into the statistic because anyone who is a rainbow faggot and triggers the collective EWWW is labeled the same thing when they are not.

Example: Daniel err i mean Dannielle Muscato CLEARLY A TRANSSEXUAL WOMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCum9J0lURM


>>130493455
Transgendered
>I am a woman. I've always been a woman. Someone trade me out this body. Its perfectly fine, its just not mine. Fix my body or put me in a new normal functioning one and let me just be a normal person. I dont care if its ugly or fat or disfigured, just get me in the right sex body. This is a horrible fucking nightmare. I'm not a boy stop trying to force me to crossdress you sick perverted fucks. Please for the love of god help me. I cant take it, Id rather die then live like this. Please I just want to be normal like every other girl on the planet.

Transabled:
>I am actually a eyeless skeleton monster from a magical fairy netherworld. Please dump acid into my eyesockets. See I was actually born without eyeballs inside my mom's vagina and they need to be removed.

>>130494996
Transabled:
>I am a paraplegic. I've always been a paraplegic. Someone trade me out this body. Its perfectly fine, its just not mine. Fix my body or put me in a new normal functioning one and let me just be a normal person. I dont care if its ugly or fat or disfigured, just get me in the right physical ability body. This is a horrible fucking nightmare. I'm not physically-abled stop trying to force me to walk on my own feet you sick perverted fucks. Please for the love of god help me. I cant take it, Id rather die then live like this. Please I just want to be normal like every other paraplegic on the planet.

Transgendered:
>I am actually a penis-endowed woman trapped in a body that is not my own. Please fill me with estrogen pills. See I was actually born with a vagina inside my mom's vagina and my penis needs to be removed.

We could play this game all night.

>>130495326
Sure you just look stupid so its fine with me.
I'm enjoying poking my girl tinkler into your safe space bubble and enjoying all the autism leaking out.

>>130495561
I could say the same of you my friend.
I'm not even mad, I really enjoy shooting the shits with random strangers.

>>130495561
I just ask that you don't mis-neurotype me; I may be biologically autistic, but I identify as neurotypical.

>>130494996
>30k people
Wrong.

The trans population is growing at what should be considered an alarming rate.
https://archive.is/pdhu3

NHS: the number of children younger than 10 being sent to sex change doctors has quadrupled
>Tavistock
https://archive.is/5ET9b

>>130436913
no they just don't like people who stray from the norm

>>130436913
>dissociative identity disorder
>personality disorder (cluster C)
>body dysmorphia
>depression
>bi polar
>has to take hormones and other drugs to feel normal

I mean the evidence wasn't hard to find.
Did we really need a thread for this?

>>130495931
Im not actually transgender anyways. I took hormones to extend my gay death but decided to pretend to become a woman so I could marry a rich man and then legally take half of his assets to support my neet lifestyle. Then I will just go back to being a cis male except more handsome. Pay a lousy $3k to chop off my boobs and do sick doughnuts in my lamborghini .

>>130496154
Because its misdiagnosed as all fuck because theres no criteria and its in an epidemic like adderall and ritalin. Literally every girl age 10-25 thinks they are a non-binary transmonkey now.
Tumblerina rebels with nose rings and dyed hair are treated the same as the 8 year old kids who are hanging themselves and smashing their dicks in cardoors because its not PC to properly label anyones feelings because feelings are broad and undefinable, which is the exact opposite of diagnostic medicine.

like >>130496402 said. These people most likely have some combination of these disorders and have just manifested their symptoms around the leftist agenda of pc cuckery in order to gain sympathy and acceptance, which causes an incredibly massive amount of misdiagnosis.

>>130496885
Their gender dysphoria is no less legitimate than yours. You might want to find another angle to express yourself as unique, because 31 genders is mainstream and growing.

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>>130437816

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>>130436913
>>130437515
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-transgender-mental-illness-classification-20160729-story.html
there is proof but science deniers like you and the eu dont believe it. just like they deny of gmo food. Really they are even worse then trump in that regard. ¨facts do not care about your(shit) feelings¨

>>130436913
What makes a person believe they are transgender?

No evidence to prove it is anything other than a mental disorder. They believe something that is impossible and there is no evidence outside of their own minds that it is true. If I believe I am a cat, I am clearly mental.

>>130436913
Any man who thinks he can actually become a woman by cutting his dick off and wearing a dress is mentally ill. How can you even refute this?

>>130498178
But if you believe that gender is a social construct then your identity as a cis male has no basis either as it is just a more socially acceptable meme.

I already am distancing myself from these people as much as possible as they are all batshit insane and will only harass and dox me for not accepting their crazy fucking gender shit.

Ironically, I think the solution that is best for me is to just hit delete on my past identity and just live life as the woman I see myself and pretend that I never transitioned in the first place.

I honestly think about it a lot and Im about 80% sure thats what im going to do to avoid all the drama and shit. I used to think I could help people and get things to change, but I feel like we've abandoned science, classification, and diagnostic medicine and theres no hope for anything to ever get anything done. Its like a leftist version of sharia law.

This tranny is pissed and chimping about "kekistan".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZkxw8ZE664

>>130436913

I don't know why being trans having a mental illness is either controversial OR meant to be le ebin smackdown diss sine it is LITERALLY IN THE DSM AS A MENTAL ILLNESS AND YOU NEED TO BE DIAGNOSED WITH IT BEFORE YOU CAN GET A SEX CHANGE OPERATION IN MOST COUNTRIES

>>130496885
kek love your story mate. It reminds of me when I was a young boy and was confused about many things in life. So I went on a walk on my parents dairy farm and and happened to stumble upon your bullshit that never happened.

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>>130499446
What the fuck even is that?
I can smell the piss from here.
Sophie Labelle is the fucking posterchild of transtrenders.
But thats the kind of shit im talking about.
Who the fuck is this gross rainbowtrolldoll?
What the fuck do they have to do with anything?
But do you see how fucking angry they are for no fucking reason and want to come to your house and burn it down and shit?
Look at sophie.
LOOK AT THIS MOTHER FUCKER
Tell me they suffer gender dysphoria and aren't special snowflake.
They could literally dump a bucket of glitter on their head and it wouldnt make them any more of a faggot.

> Hey mom, can I vote?

>Of course not, sweetie. You're too young. That's far too important a decision and you're just not mature enough to make it.

> oh ok. Actually I like playing with dolls instead of trucks, so can I get put on hormone blockers to keep me from going through puberty so I can mutilate my dick later in life to try and look like a woman, but still always look a bit off so I end up killing myself because my body is beyond repair at that point?

>Why of course! In fact, if I said no, the government can come take you away because I'm not accepting of your gender identity

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>>130439050
check, m8... goy

>>130436913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkmuLZZU88I

>>130436913
It's called gender gender dysphoria. It is a mental illness. Do you think nature made men that way? Might as well say cancer is normal and should be tolerated.

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>>130459863
>Same uneducated white ignorance in a different era.
succinct... except that it's not only "whites" that share this ignorance

>ignorance don't discriminate anything but a lack of intelligence

>>130437637
id like to see the stats from a country like Thailand where trannies are accepted

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>>130500751
>It's called gender gender dysphoria.
that only applies to trans that hate their bodied -- many don't... otherwise there would be no traps, only eunuchs

that would also be like labelling every make-up-wearing sarlacc (or party-sock-wearing NEET )as a 'self-hater'

>>130491683
I love that image
Arnie doesn't give a fuck he just grabs Bruce's big meaty fist and laughs in his twisted face.

>>130436913
It is like anorexia. The mind is unable to reconcile with the physical body. You don't encourage an anorexic to starve themselves, do you?

>>130500790
I would be surprised if a lot of those people even have government ID. They are orphans and prostitutes. Anyway, trans doesn't lead to suicide, mental illnesses lead to trans and suicide.

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>>130436913
I have proof if you are really interested

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/johns-hopkins-psychiatrist-transgender-mental-disorder-sex-change

Is anorexia a mental illness?

>>130500006
Thomas Jay Wasserberg aka tommy tooter. heres his youtube

https://www.youtube.com/user/ctomeez0013

>>130500386
>mommy Im a girl why do you keep trying to force me to be a boy?
>mommy cant I just be a girl?
>mommy im only 5 can I just spent the next 8 years and decide if I want to stay a girl or not?
>Mommy ive had 8 years of my life already as a girl I know im a girl
>mommy when will you accept me just being myself?
>mommy if I didnt want to be a girl, I could just go back at any time since I have almost a decade to make up my mind before I make my decision

>mommy im 18 now and my skeleton has completely fused so hormones are useless
>thanks for making my decision for me mommy
>can you tell me the story about grandpa fighting in ww2 mommy when he wasnt 18 yet?
>i like to think about grandpa dragging men across the ground with their guts hanging out screaming hysterically crying for their mothers as he loaded them onto the stretchers while I put on my big boy pants over my girl jeans that dont quite fit because I wasnt mature enough to decide my own life
>can you also tell me how you let a jewish man bite my cock off because I was too young to make that decision too?

>>130501657
t.no one ever

>>130436913
>"I hear a lot of people saying aids is a disease. Got any proof to back that up, eh?"

They're gay. There's the proof you need, libfag

>>130436913
hello everyone in this thread /b/ here we might have a dead body in spain any spainards here wanna go and see whats at this location

>>>/b/736279298
>>>/b/736279298
>>>/b/736279298

im not delusional, i know i was born as male with a penis but my body produces less testosterone than normal and more estrogen. it has given me a feminine appearance since puberty

desu its just easier to present myself as a woman because being so feminine in appearance while trying to look like a dude brings a lot of stares

>>130501786
t.every5yearoldtranskidever

>>130436913
>their brain is hardwired to be female at birth
>the human brain is hardwired to wear dresses and makeup and heels at birth
Explain.

>>130487217

They know they made a mistake and can't go back or be undone. In the end you are still just a man.

>>130436913
Nobody has "proof" because the APA refuses to label it as a mental illness.

>>130437169
There's a difference between a sexual fetish and actually believing that you are a man/woman trapped in the body of the opposite gender. Transgender people are so psyched out that they believe that their genitals are not suited to them and strongly desire to have the genders of the opposite sex.

>>130436913
>Hey Doc i just don't feel right i need to cut off my legs to feel normal
>Hey Doc i just don't feel right i need to cut off my cock to feel normal

why is one of these crazy and the other brave?

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>>130502498
>their brain is hardwired to be female at birth
>females do certain things, like certain things, and act a certain way
>they want to do these things as any other woman normally would
Whats to understand?

Its when its not age appropriate or sissification that you should be concerned.
Funny how theres a double standard where you get all pissy about an MTF acting like a girl and liking girl things like makeup etc.
But you have no fucking major meltdown when you see an FTM buying a truck or wanting to go hunting?
Interesting how that works.

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>>130436913
The burdon of proof is on you, why should we have to disprove something that has no evidence for it?

I like to use the analogy of transgenderism being somewhat like Anorexia, with both of them seeing themselves as something that they are not.

>>130437816

thats nice but there is no actual research linking mommy issues with transgenderism

>>130436913
Some have a mental illness and some just have a brain wired up like a females brain. I've found the ones with a female brain are ok as long as they stay away from the LGBTQ/SJW community. The ones with a mental illness are just fucked in the head and there's not hope for them.

It is literally a defined mental illness that affects the mental state of sufferers in a negative way, similar to schizophrenia or depression.

>>130436913
Yes.

>>130438213
Sounds like your typical steroid abusing body builder.

Arnold Swazenegger confirmed as male to macho trans.

>>130501014
"traps" are mentally ill in a different way, they are just straight up faggots.

>>130438616
So Much This!

DSM 5 you demented faggots.

https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria

>>130437115
yes that sounds sane

>>130496885
>adderall epidemic began in the early 2000s
>the same time these people were the ages they gave adderall
Do you think maybe giving kids amphetamines for ADHD when they were kids fucked up their brain causing them to be trans?

Transgender people have a mental imbalance that craves attention. There's most likely a medical condition for that, but I don't know it.

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>>130436913
Why is there so many white trans people?

>>130506576
because disparaging your masculinity is a white male thing

>>130506576
because any other color of trans is an insta death

I tell people I'm a cat. I sleep all day and lick myself with my tongue and otherwise act like a cat. I pay a plastic surgeon a lot of money to implant whiskers on my face and a tail on my backside.

Am I a cat, or am I mental?

>>130459297

I would destroy the shit out of that rack

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>>130487044
Checked and keked.

>>130437816
I was taught this in psychology class at higschool (prepa, DF), except for the mommy issue.

>>130436913
I don't know if they are nuts or not, but many people think so. Do the rest of the LGBT community think the Ts are holding down their cause because the Ls and Gs are more or less normal and the worst you can say about the Bs are that they are indecisive?

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>>130448471
>i-it's not their p-problem, it's yours..
>y-you bully!
I make it a point to say things like "thanks, man" or "hey dude" when interacting with MtF tranny scum.

>>130436913
My eyes and experience Dealing with them.

>>130516245
I've never met or seen a trans person in real life. Just on the internet. I've seen lots of women I thought were men. A lot of Mexican women that look like fat men too.

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>>130437382

they are reissuing that box soon