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Christianity is the greatest gift to mankind and i love Jesus

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Christianity is the greatest gift to mankind and i love Jesus my God more than i can put it to words, i just had to say it.
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>>130434396
ich auch

feels good
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Embracing Jesus every morning to night is like taking deep breath after holding breath for long
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what is wrong with the eyes?
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>>130434396
Jesus is our lord and savior. Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.
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>>130434396
non nobis domine
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>>130434890
Amen! Becoming born again Christian is like starting a new life, i can feel His holiness every day
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Amen Brother.
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>>130435878
Amen!
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>>130434396

pro fide pro utilitate hominum
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>>130434396
Amen
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>>130434396
>inb4 kike on a stick
>inb4 Christcucks
>inb4 pagans form forever ago had it right
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>>130435878
Amen!
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>>130434396
He knows.
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>>130434856
Nestorian painting depicting duality in the nature of jesus. Was considered a heresy.
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Do you people reject the theory of evolution altogether or just find it insufficient for explaining the origins of humans?
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>>130440269
>insufficient for explaining the origins of humans
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>>130434396
amen; CHRIST is the only answer
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So I have never read the Bible and was agnostic since when I was like 14 untill year or two ago. I ordered the Bible and I'm going to read it and think about this, but I need a few tips on how to recognize the true group (Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants), which fragments will give me any idea? Also few questions about Christianity in general
>Is attending to the masses obligatory
>Do I have to tell my sins to a priest or can I tell them directly to God at home
>which prayers I should learn
>which Christian holidays are true and which are heresy
>is masturbation a sin?
Also a few days ago I literally kneeled before icon of Jesus from my 1st communion and begged for His forgiveness, will He forgive me? I don't think I have done any serious sins. It was usual friendly banter with coleggues from school as a kid, except maybe one time when I was 6 and I have stolen toy from friend. Oh, and sometimes I don't respect my mother because she is kinda dumb.
Please help, it's very important. I don't want to meet Hitler.
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>>130440788
?
Kind of clumsy way to put it but still grammatically sound
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>>130442956
no, that was my answer
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>>130442845
read the bible and it will be clear but I'll give you a hint. its not the catholics. they pray to dead people. they have arbitrary rules that arent in the bible. and they turn people away from the church if they break one of the rules they have created.
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>>130434396
>Created by kikes


Stay bluepilled
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>>130443786
nice bullshit you got there.
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>>130442845
Orthodox and Catholics are retaining apostolic traditions. Also Orthodoxy retained more trustful theology, while catholics became too... materialized.
>Is attending to the masses obligatory
yes
>Do I have to tell my sins to a priest or can I tell them directly to God at home
Yes, confession is a requirement to take an Eucharist
>which prayers I should learn
Most basic is Lords prayer ("our father")
Psalms are also recommended for every Christian
91th is one of my favorites alongside first, 8th and 82th
>which Christian holidays are true and which are heresy
All Christian holidays are true. the fact that they are sometimes based on certain pagan traditions doesn't reduce their importance or truth.
>is masturbation a sin?
yes, it is confirmed by paul
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>>130442845
1) depends on who you ask
2) God
3) whichever you want, prayer is you talking to your heavenly father, GOD
4) many christian holidays were started at or around pagan holidays to end their practice. as the preacher says "we should celebrate the birth, death and Resurrection of our lord EVERYDAY"
5) no, as long as you do not lust while doing so
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>>130442845
Romans 3:23 says "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" but the Bible also 1 john 1:9 says" If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
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>>130443710
>>130443932
>>130443934
>>130444228
Thank you. I guess it's time to change lifestyle and reconsider some things, coz shit is seriously going to hit the fan very soon. Better later than never, I guess.
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>>130443932
>yes, it is confirmed by paul
where?
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>>130442845
>Also a few days ago I literally kneeled before icon of Jesus from my 1st communion and begged for His forgiveness, will He forgive me?
Yes
>Is attending to the masses obligatory
>Do I have to tell my sins to a priest or can I tell them directly to God at home
>which prayers I should learn
>which Christian holidays are true and which are heresy
You ultimately have to formulate your own path
in terms of adherence to specific guidelines. The
lord will guide you if you ask. Accept him in to
heart(consciousness) and he will lead you.
>is masturbation a sin?
It goes hand and hand with concupiscence,
so I would say yes.Try to minimize it, and just
say "lord today my will was weak, forgive me.
please strengthen my will and give me the strength to stop wanking and find a woman and be fruitful and multiply".
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thats good anon. try to consider putting away idols in the future though.
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>>130440269
Evolution is a church, it doesn't work scientifically. Evolution is a highly frequent event that happens across societies and generations.

The environment effects of epigenetics, the digital tags to our analog monitors. They change all the time and once the cell divides, it locks in some of the epigentics into actual genetics. This depends on each individual ribosome in the cell during the beginning of interphase, impossible to measure so it's best to let it go.

Sometimes the epitagged cells go through miosis and you make a baby. The males environment over time is most important, before the final "code" is inserted into the women.

Learn as much as you can, get as strong as you can, be as happy as you can, and as skillful as you may know before you give children.
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>>130434396
lol christians are no better than a cult, there is no god you losers
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>>130443932
except the apostles wrote about what they did in the Bible, and none of the heresies of the orthodox and catholics are mentioned.

Also,
>traditions of apostles
>traditions of men

They followed Jesus and were led by the Holy Sprit, they didnt have their own magical traditions that they never wrote about and that you have to follow from people who kill christ ever week so you can cannibalize him in order to get into heaven
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>>130444655
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
In this case, "fornication" is a catch-all term for sexually atrocities, including masturbation
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>>130445204
are you the sodomite from the other thread?
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>>130445430
You forgot lies. I'm sure youve never told a lie.
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>>130445362
>except the apostles wrote about what they did in the Bible
and bible was composed and canonized by church
>cannibalize him
why are protestants so primitive?
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>>130443932
The word Paul uses is "fornication" which was used to describe the following senarios: Adultery, "sacred" prostitution, incest, lust and a couple of others along those lines. But masturbation was never under any of thsoe. Masturbation is not a sin as long as you are not lusting, which means it's okay if it's animu. I'm serious
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>>130445474
are you a retard believing in god?
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>>130445616
The scripture were made for the church. A collection of authentic scripture were compiled while they were still being persecuted, by, you know, the romans.
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>>130445821
Not an argument.
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>>130445709
fornicaiton means sex outside of marriage lmao

masturbation falls under lust when you watch porn

its a sin but you dont go to hell for sinning anymore if you believe
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>>130445978
>you dont go to hell for sinning anymore if you believe
>anymore
Nigga what?
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>>130434396
Friendly reminder that this trip has deeply seated mental issues
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>>130434396
Christianity is treason to the state and to socialism! To the gulag with you, comrade!
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>>130445430
>In this case, "fornication" is a catch-all term for sexually atrocities, including masturbation
I have never heard this in my life.

I don't necessarily not believe you but you to substantiate it better than that. Is there point where the Bible itself defines fornication this way? Because the Bible tends to define things its own way, and I've never, not once, heard fornication defined this way.
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>>130445966
you'll never have an argument speaking for the existence of god, so get used to it.
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>>130446162
He's a qtie pie let him be.
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>>130446112
ur right it was never like that idk why i said anymore

but the point remains

im too much of a shit pile to quit fapping
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>>130445616
>why are protestants so primitive?
Theif on the cross did not eat Jesus. Are you saying Jesus lied to him about going to Heaven? Or do you not realize that the thief ate of the spiritual bread of Christ?

You put His sacrifice to an open shame by saying once wasnt enough.
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>>130446279
>supporting that mentally ill autismo
Nah, I'll call him out whenever he rears his head to rant like a schizophrenic for hours on end.
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>Worship 3 gods
>Worship idols
>Your holy book was corrupted by Jews and Greeks
>Religion of cucks, not conquerors
what a shit tier religion
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>>130446261
Argue the contrary.
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>>130446422
At least you aren't a Catholic. If I had to leave America I'd probably want to live in a Muslim country to escape the degeneracy of the unbelievers and heretics.
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>>130446566
>indian hindu weirdo trying to BTFO anyone when he isnt even white and "loves jews"
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>>130446455
i don't have to argue since there is no proof of god, there is no god.
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>>130446566

Posts like this make me wish that only the mentally able would be allowed to ever write anything on any platform.
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The story of Jesus as recorded in the gospels is about what happens when the Spirit of God appears on Earth, and is resisted by the worldly powers of organized religion and the state. Anytime the message of Christ becomes co-opted by religious doctrine or state power, it has already abandoned its roots, since at its core the Jesus story is about how those very powers will stop at nothing to subvert and destroy the Christ. Though of course they can never succeed - to those with eyes to see and ears to hear, the King remains enthroned.

Christ shows us that self-giving sacrificial love is the true power in the universe, not the top-down tyrannical brute strength of Caesar. Christ's earliest followers proclaimed "Jesus is Lord!", rather than "Caesar is Lord!" which regions conquered by the empire were required to say. The implied subversive question - who is making a better Kingdom? Caesar who puts people on crosses, or Christ who bears the cross in love for all? Caesar who dominates and kills all who oppose with brute strength, or God who raised Christ from the dead?

Why is self-giving sacrifice the ultimate power? Picture water. In some senses, the most submissive substance imaginable. It will flow through your fingers, fit any container you put it in. Yet nothing can compete with it for domination of the planet - it covers 70% of Earth's surface. It uses its power not to dominate like a tyrant, but to quietly nourish each and every thing that lives. This is built into Creation as a prefiguration of Christ. The blood of Christ is spiritual water, and those who drink of it will never thirst again.
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>>130446566
lol, youre a fucking hindu m8. a hindu nazi
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>>130446347
I didn't fap for a week or two, but yesterday I literally cummed without touching my dick just by looking at women. And after that I jerked off 3 times in a 10 minutes, it sucks to have weak will.
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>>130445616
flag fag. post under your real flag, queer. the only people that hide their flags are leafs, slavs and poos.
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>>130445978
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>>130446706
Since there is no proof you are conscience, you are not conscience.
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>people still reply to the mentally ill tripfag
I wouldn't waste your time, he has deeply rooted mental issues and rants as much as obamaleaf does.
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DAILY REMINDER THAT PEOPLE CLAIMING THAT CHRISTIANITY KILLED ROMAN EMPIRE ARE KIKE SHILLS

DAILY REMINDER THAT CHRISTIANITY IS THE REASON WHY EASTERN EMPIRE SURVIVED SO LONG AND WHY WESTERN EMPIRE'S HERITAGE TRANSFORMED INTO EUROPEAN STATES INSTEAD OF JUST DISAPPEARING WITHOUT A TRACE
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>>130446879
Lol ima creating sola fire so I can commit sin without worrying about hell
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>>130446966

M8 mentally ill people are funny.

It's a human version of a glitch in the system. And just like a glitch in the system is usually has a comedic effect.
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>>130440269
Evolution can only account for biological things
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Jesus would have been pro-immigration, anti-borders, and anti-guns.
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>>130446824
What a load of bullshit


Stay far, far away from catholics and orthodox. Read the Bible, not what some hypocritical men in dresses say.
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>>130446879
This doesn't make any sense. You can sin everyday and then you just tell what you did to priest and everything is forgiven?
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>>130447047

>Poo
>In
>Loo
>Religion

HAHAHAHAH
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>>130443786
No they were aryans
Modern Jews are the result of race mixing
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Everything I say is false is FALSE
LISTEN TO ME, my schizophrenic brain says that my hindu/jew love is TRUE, LISTEN TO ME.
t. mentally ill tripfaggot
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>>130445870
Much of politics involves religion. You also wouldn't be able to talk about islam if you ban religious
discussion. Legislation involves morals which are informed by religious believes or the lack thereof. So legislation would not be able to be discussed. Also cultural norms are based on religion largely, so no talk of culture. You can't ban religion from this board. Just shift left click the thread.
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>>130447133

You have to understand that Lutherans don't believe in free will. So you committed a sin because god wanted you to commit a sin.
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>>130447133
That's from Martin Luther so I wouldn't recommend you do what he said.
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>>130445821
Your delusional if you reject the God you know exists
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>>130446879
Everything he said here was said much more eloquently in the scriptures, and with the relevant warnings concerning the chastisement the sons of God receive for disobedience.
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>>130447307

Indians are not humans they are the missing link between a dungbeatle and a turk.
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>>130447419
He's actually white, but also extremely mentally ill.
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>>130434396
Peace to you, pic is the inside of my church
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Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.
Ephesians 6:4 ESVUK
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>>130447119
t. New Apostolic Seventh-Day Southern Evangelical Lutheran National Missionary Baptist Church of Christ and The Light Of Holy Spirit of America
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>>130447336
>God gave us free will so we can decide if we want to obey His rules or do as we plase and turn back from Him
>Lutherans don't believe in free will
Something is wrong.
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>>130447562
If a mongral race still believes in something true or good
It does not change the fact that they are still mongrals
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>>130447133
you have to actually repent in your heart.
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>>130447568
You think yourself wise because you soaked up a bunch of nonsense from a man wearing a dress and pretending to be a wizard who can summon God himself and force him into a cracker.

I'm a Christian. I look for people who believe the Gospel and make fellowship with them. (((Denominations))) teach false gospels, I naturally don't commune with them.
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>>130447597

>Something is wrong.

Nope nothing is wrong, it's based on their Sola Scriptura doctrine and being unable to read properly.
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>>130447133
it makes perfect sense, it's called apocatastasis.
God knows what he's doing. he knows we're all worthless sacks of shit, but he still loves us and is going to take us back no matter how much we fuck up.
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>>130447340
>>130447133
>>130447597
sigh i dont feel like explaining it again same thread as last tthread

faith alone means yes you can do whatever the fuck you want and go str8 to heaven because you believe

it doesnt make it adviseable god wouldnt approve of the language " sin boldy " "make ur sins strong"

ur still supposed to be a righteous person
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>>130447562

>so you are saying followers of my religion are subhuman?
Considering that dogs are better potty trained than your average indian, yes
>and what are you?
Better than you.
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>>130447887
Your your a non denominationist
That's pretty much a denomination

Christ founded one church
When was yours founded
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>>130434396
Gloria in Excelsis Deo!
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>>130448020
Anti racist is a code word for anti white
Anon
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>>130440269
Honestly people who deny evolution are just very misguided. It's pretty concrete scientific theory, and is the cornerstone of modern biology. Unless people on /pol/ (or creationists) can upend the foundational contributions of a number of different scientific disciplines, I think they're just confused or uniformed.
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Through Jesus I am with my almighty God and he lifts me up higher than I could have ever imagined on my own. May he open my eyes and show me the light.
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>>130446112
>Whomsoever believeth in me shalt not perish but shall have everlasting life

I forget the verse but it's in the gospels. The one requirement for eternal life is to accept that Jesus is the son of God. The rest is what you're working towards - you're not perfect, you are going to sin, but your life isn't a wheel of chance in which you're desperately asking for forgiveness every time you screw up in case you die suddenly and therefore rot in Hell for eternity. This is the crux of Christianity, and incidentally also the part that Catholics fail to understand.
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>>130448349
To believe in Christ is to believe what he taught
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>>130448295
ya its all a lie the universe doesnt even exist

god said he makes all who want to be wise in the world a fool

all the so called scientific foundations are hoaxes
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Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.
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>>130448116
A church is a local community of believers. When He returns all believers will be gathered, then we will be as one. Unless you are 2000 years old, there is a small chance you belong to the original community of believers.
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>>130448211

Here is your proof
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/53-Indian-households-defecate-in-open-World-Bank-says-on-World-Toilet-Day/articleshow/26032829.cms
Over 50% of indians defecate in the open, and as many videos will show, like this one they shit everywhere from on the beach to in the streets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJgY2VSct0
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>>130447992
To me, it's pretty clear that faith is not enough.

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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>>130448458
Shit anon you're right. Wanna co-author a paper with me that will BTFO those (((scientists))) and their (((gravity)))?
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>>130434396
Made me sad when He killed everyone but Noah's family plus virtually all the landborne animals in 2304 BC. Like
>noooooo G-d how could You kill all the ppl
but then I realized everything He does is good and they deserved it. I try not to sin! Anyway a lot of geologists have said that there's no way that happened but those dudes just need to face up to their own sin
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>>130448479
Christ founded one church body anon

https://youtu.be/D3FidcvkeDo

Is your church the one true church?
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2 quotes.
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>>130448295
>thinking themselves wise, they become fools

Youre not hip and "with it" just because you believe heathen science that denies God's creation. Its just proof you are part of a false church.
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>>130447119
>Stay far, far away from catholics
>Read the Bible

Pick one.

> Matthew 16:18-19
>And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the Hell shall not prevail against it.
>l I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”
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>>130447047
Hinduism doesn't deny the Christain God, my retarded friend
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>>130448514
I mean we did conquer northern India and established the cast system

Racism is natural
Does not equal hate anymore than me favoring my family over others
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>>130434890
>Jesus is our lord and savior. Converting to Catholicism was the best decision I ever made.
Great... the next step will be to convert from Catholicism to Christianity.
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>>130448789
So basipally we should stop all scientific inquiry lest we become heathens of the "church of science"? Do I understand you correctly?
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>>130448611
Jesus defines the will of the Father

John 6:40
And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


>>130448617
no1 cares about truth they want to believe a lie because they hate god and hate the truth

only christians do thats why theyre special and get saved

John 3:21
21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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>>130448665
You been reading Aryan esoterica haven't you
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>>130446947
still doesnt make your god real
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>>130448657
Jesus has been in Heaven by the right hand of the Father for 2000 or so years so no, of course not. My church was founded by a God-fearing man driven by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus will come again to establish his kingdom forever and ever, not your wimpy little church led by a communist in a dress.
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>>130448769

>so why does indoor plumbing of native population imply civility?
Indoor plumbing is a base goal of civilization, if the romans could do it 2 millennia and a half ago then so should indians if they where not subhumans.

>that's a jewish meme you believe
>Shitting in the streets is what a true Aryan would do
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>>130448439
A fair point actually, but all fall short of the glory of God. You should definitely follow Christ's teachings as a Christian but he died because we can't follow even the simplest rules. Likejust keep your mouths shut and follow Moses through the desert, how hard is that?
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>>130448828
may I add to that John 21

>When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

>“Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.”

Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.”

> Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

>He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.”

>Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.”

>The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?”

>Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.”

>Jesus said, “Feed my sheep.
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>>130448611
wrong, it's sola fide.
"And when he saw their faith, he said unto them, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee."
Luke 5:20
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>>130449025
Do you find it surprising how light the skin colors of Hindu gods are?
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Christianity was a trick to get Jews to control money lending.
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>>130448950
>shittalking the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church of ecclesia catholica
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>>130449063
Which Christians, anon? Enlighten me.
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>>130449063
I still believe that you must act in agreement, or your whole faith is but a pure facade.
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>>130434396
Juden RAUS!
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>>130449032
You don't believe God's words in the Bible when He tells you how He created the world. Is it any surprise you don't trust in Him to save you, and are trying to work to do it yourself?
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>>130445870
agreed.

Dead jew on a tree has nothing to do with this board.

Christcucks get out.
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>>130449122
Upon this rock I will build my church
Not upon this rock I will build many churches
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I really like Ecclesiastes. is filled with much more common sense, wisdom, advice than all the rest of muh bible.

it doesn't delve into things like salvation by faith alone or not, trinity,....

it is just plain, the thoughts of a man struggling written down. the only thing worthwhile in the bible. no idealism, no utopianism, no fanaticism, no greedy clergy, no manipulation, no theology,....
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>>130449025
>I AM ENGLISH
Okay, Pajeet.
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>>130443932
You don't have to confess to a Priest. You can, of course; but, the Bible says "confess your sins, one to another." So any solid Christian confidant will suffice as far as the Bible is concerned.
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>>130449087
Still doesnt make your existence real
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>>130434396
Asides for its theological nonsense: Judaism + messiah # Christianity.

You're not even monotheists.

Get over it.

Sam Gerrans eats you for breakfast.
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>>130449130
I agree but there are of course sins you commit willfully and some unwilfully

Would it be fair to say that sins you commit willfully have a higher degree of responsibility
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>>130449265
Cuck.
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>>130449348
Sorry, I don't believe you've answered my question, I'll just say it again. Should we abandon scientific inquiry lest we end up members of the church of science?
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>>130440269
The church has accepted evolution for a long time. The church has usually accepted and pushed most scientific theories before they were pucked up by the secular world. You're welcome
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With modern technology it should only take five minutes at most to attempt to measure the curve of the Earth.(8 inches per mile squared) If you are claiming to be a Christian and have not done this then you are not a follower of Jesus

>1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

>Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

>Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

>Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

>Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”
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>>130449025
What sect of Hindu are you?
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>>130440269
Hugh Ross The Science of Genesis and the Anthropic Principal
https://youtu.be/I6VZnmohw8E
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>>130449330
I agree
They were our ancestors
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>>130434396
You sound pathetic, christcuck. Your post is very laughable
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>>130449539
How much drugs are you on right now?
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>>130449367
Yup. When he comes again hes gonna gather everyone who believes on Him into his congregation, just as Peter had confessed his belief in Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, who was crucified, died, buried, and resurrected three days later in full payment of the sins of all mankind.

But you don't believe in Revelation, so this is probably hard for you to understand.
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>>130443710
You don't believe in the resurrection? The people catholics ask to intercede are very much alive.
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>>130449338
Tell that to the Hebrews of the Old Testament
Very racist bunch
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>>130434396
Was he Aryan?
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>>130449489
>You don't have to confess to a Priest. You can, of course; but, the Bible says "confess your sins, one to another." So any solid Christian confidant will suffice as far as the Bible is concerned.

Nope. See >>130448828

Reconciliation is a sacrament, just like the Eucharist, and can only be given by a priest.
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>>130449720
>unironically believing in the "globe earth" meme
spherecucks out
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>>130443710
>not in muh bible
The Bible is a product of the Church, not the other way around.
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>>130449827
No I was once a Protestant
I bet your also a dispensationalist too
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>>130449273
born again ones
not catholic or orthodox or jw or mormon or anything crazy

they dont believe god/the bible they make up their own stuff

>>130449276
nope no facade if you accept jesus as the christ and son of god all you need bible says it 1000 times

1 John 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
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>>130449945
According to Aryan esoterica he was
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>>130449596
>Sam Gerrans

>Christians used St. Thomas Aquinas
>St. Thomas Aquinas entered the field
>St. Thomas Aquinas used "Liber de veritate catholicae fidei contra errores infidelium"
>Sam Gerrans fainted
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Good goy
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>>130449993
>there aren't sects in hindusin as with abrahamic faiths
What are "Vaishnavism", "Shaivism", "Smartism", "Shaktism" then?
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>>130449624
Believing lies doesnt make you a better scientist.

Is the (((theory))) of evolution going to help you create a better material for airplane casings, or a vaccine? The answer is no.
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>>130434396
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>>130449720
Earth is fixed, the universe revolves around it.

>>130449867
They're not alive, they're dead until the Judgement Day.
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>>130434396
Me too myman
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>>130434396
I follow the Bible and abstain from sex since I am not yet married. The only area of sin in my life is watching anime porn. I guess this is a sin since it's lust and I'm not married to anime drawings obviously. Can I be a Christian or nah?
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>>130449720
flat earth general?

mfw atheists say theres no proof for god but we live on a flat geocentric earth
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>>130444536
Don't start worshiping a jew, either stay an atheist or become a pagan assuming you're genetically European.
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>>130445362
If you don't eat his true flesh then you won't have eternal life. Jesus is very clear on that. Happy corpus christi everyone
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>>130450095
If you say "I believe in Jesus", but the seed doesn't grow in you. I will say that seed is dead.
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>>130450244
Vaccine yes

Cross species testing of other animals can help with vaccines
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>>130450095
lol tinny~
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>>130450365
So you belong to Vaishnavism, correct?
Do you worship Krishna?
What is your practice?
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>>130434856

the one on the left is to refer to god, while the one on the right is to refer to man.
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Amen
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You're all fucking kidding, right?
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>>130434396
Oi 299
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>>130450128
A non answer from a polytheist. Go and join your poo in loo buddies.
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>>130450095
Oh dear, that's a lot of people!

>>130450244
You don't seem to understand what a scientific theory is, anon. A theory is something that is backed up by a lot of evidence and peer review. As it stands, evolution remains a founding theory for modern biology, and has contributions from just about every scientific discipline.

Though, saying it's a lie might make you feel better.

Again though, you aren't answering my question. Should we abandon scientific inquiry?
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>>130449501
well if i don't exist then god certainly doesn't exist either, so another reason not to give a fuck about a deity
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>>130450310
>the universe
>real

o . am i laffin.

Genesis 1:14-15
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

A Star Close Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5xFd1gvkdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbLu9fcQI4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tgxTCDjvBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afjcaJpMWyc
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>>130445978
*slams your dead feet with a leafbat*
back to the cage feralboy
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>>130438029
holy shit, we memed ourselves across the timeline.
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>>130445709
Read the catechesis if the church. Masturbation is defined as a mortal sin. This is dogma. You aren't catholic if you don't believe that. Which means you are unworthy of raising the templar flag on your post
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>>130450041
I'm not a protestant, unless you mean in the literal sense of a protesting ex catholic who is now a born again Christian.

John 3 (Jesus speaking)

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
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>>130450625
Ah... you were interesting for a while, not you're not interesting anymore. Just another teenage edgy Nazi.
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>>130445978
You go to hell if you don't intend to repent any sin
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>>130434396
Say this in my face
Well see how long you can keep your teeth making such retarded claim.
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>>130450418
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post. I was raised in catholic culture so I'm going to worship Jesus, not some trees or stone. Christianity saved this miserable country from deep shit many times. God has chosen this land to to keep globalists in check, as long as we are on map, jewsish elites can't do anything. If God has chosen us, I'm going to fill this duty.
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>>130434396
>>>/mu/
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>>130450732
If your not Catholic or orthodox
You are a Protestant
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>>130450638
There is no proof of evolution. There is proof that God created the world, and you just need to look out your window to see it.
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>>130449945
He was the son of God, his earthly body is not relevant
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>>130450651
why don't you leave these poor people alone?
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>>130450732
To be born again is to be born of the water and the spirit anon
How did you miss that
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>>130450649
but then this conversation does not matter, nor whether you believe me or i believe you
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>>130450418
The Death of Jezus at the hand of the Jews signals the moment God made a Third Covenant with mankind. making the Europeans the chosen people instead of the Jews.
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>>130448657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk6gQhKa9YQ
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>>130450931
>his earthly body is not relevant
It's extremely relevant, it's the human part of Him, the one that redeemed humans and resurrected and the one He rose back to heaven with.
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>>130450878
Amen! God bless Poland
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>>130450921
There is an abundance of proof for evolution. You understand it wouldn't be a foundational theory without literal mountains of proofs, right?


>There is proof that God created the world, and you just need to look out your window to see it.
Well I appear to be arguing with an actual retard, so I don't think that "God" created you.
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The thief was not baptized. I drink freely of the fountains of life, as I was invited to, as was the thief, who never was baptized nor had a drink physically. Now how do we recon this?
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>>130447336
And thus lutherans believe god created evil. Why would god a perfect being do what is logically impossible for him and create evil? Silly lutherans.
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>>130451147
Jokes on you Catholics defeated the illuminati a long time ago
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>>130451194
Jesus most likely wasn't "Aryan" and that is not important, he was most likely Armenoid
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>>130451294
>Theres no proof for god

>CLOUDS GO BEHIND THE SUN
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>>130447480
He isn't white, I've been in a thread with him before and he even said it himself
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>>130434396
God and Jesus do not exist. Grow a brain.
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>>130450418
>join an extinct religion that originated from central Asia instead of following the actual Truth
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>>130451294
Except there literally is no proof.

I think you should choose a new religion, perhaps New Age spiritualism? No need to pretend to believe in God, anon.
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>>130451351
I don't care about white Jesus or whatever, but your statement was heretical.
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All unbelievers will be cast into the lake of fire. Including all degenerates, heathens and jews, right along side their father, so have fun with your buddies deniers
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>>130451308
God is not limited by the sacrements

Baptism of blood and desire
If someone who has accepted the faith but dies before baptism, they are baptized in their blood.
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>>130451340
>Implying I need a middle man to speak with the Father. Do you believe the pope is Jesus?


John 14:6 King James Version (KJV)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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>>130451008
if you're not sure about your existence there really is no reason for caring about a god.
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>>130448479
The whole and universal church is where the apostolic successor aka bishop is. The church is also the body of christ thus in union with god. You cannot be in union with god without the catholic and apostolic church
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>>130451147
that was some retarded bullshit.
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>>130451423
But you know God exists
Every fiber in your body knows
You just desire to be your own God
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>>130451402
Oh shit you got me anon! We've been uncovered

>>130451489
Please consult your nearest high school text book, or even Google search. Unless the millions of studies and research papers and museums and experiments that exist are just a covert operation by (((them))) to distort the Christian faith

However, on the subject of proof, you seem to be providing evidence for the need to better fund public education.
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>>130451562
Sorry i'll ask Lord for forgiveness
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>>130451781
Do you ask Mary to pray to the Father for you anon? You ask a dead human to pray to the Father for you?
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>>130448950
Catholicism is christianity anon.
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>>130451658
Context anon

Jesus is saying that he is the way to salvation
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>>130434396
If jesus is so great why do he allow elsa scat videos on youtube
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>>130451730
Nah it's mostly rednecks
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What's a god to an atheist?
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>>130451830
And you will be forgiven, friend, God bless you
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>>130451982
post links
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>>130451877
Don't mock Christ you fucking hindu pleb
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>>130449122
Did the guy who found your church have the apostolic authority of a bishop conferred directly in a line of succession from jesus and the apostles? Because if not then it is not a church.
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>>130449032
>God created the earth

>Evolution (Universally accepted)
sure

>Big Bang (Only idiots actually believe this t. Chemical Engineer who has explitly asked people there opinions on this, noone believes this)
no, its just filler used by atheists to cope with their disbelief in divine beginnings.
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>>130451877
The Hebrews were Aryan until they mixed with mongrel cannanites

Compare the writing of the OT to the Talmud
They are completely different books
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>>130451893
Do you ask your mother to pray for you
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>>130451655
In my opinion, baptism was a symbol of spiritual renaissance done by early christians.

But it's just a symbol.
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>>130452325
Mary is dead and waiting for the day of judgement, how can she pray for you? My mother is alive, she can literally pray for me.
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>>130434396
Thank You Lord for Your sacrifice, to send us Your Son and show us how it's done, so that we can have a chance too .
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>>130449827
Even demons believe in jesus anon. Are they going to be part of the church too?

The body of christ is real and exists. If you don't intend to join it then you have no life in you
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>>130452395
Okay that's just your opinion.

Baptismal regeneration was a generally accepted principle until the 1500s with the Protestant Refomation

Martin Luther believed in baptismal regeneration

It's pretty much only some evangelical and reformed tradions that rejected baptismal regeneration
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>>130452582
Because saints are in heaven right now
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Where can I look into the claims that the Catholic Church is the one true chuch established by Christ and the apostles in Acts.
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>>130450095
All christians are born again it is the definition of baptism to be born again in water and spirit and baptism is the definition of christianity. I would love to be able to call protestants not christian but alas all who are baptised in the name of the trinity are and will always be christian
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>>130450418
>grrrrrrr y do u still believe in jesus
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>>130446422
I worship One God. The Great I am. Who is Father, Son and Spirit; El Shaddai, God Almighty. One God.
I worship no idols.
And the Dead Sea Scrolls confirm the continuity of the Holy Scriptures.
Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand. And the increase of His [Jesus] government and peace will never end
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>>130452154
So, God created the universe and earth wholesale? Surely, your acceptance of evolution is at least some kind of proof that "he" used natural and cosmological processes.
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I believe there is a god..
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>>130450310
No they are very much alive. The spiritual resurrection came as soon as jesus died on the cross and the dead spirits rose from their tombs and were assumed into heaven. Its in the bible. Physical ressurrection comes on judgment day.
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>>130452848
Link the verses that state the saints are all in heaven.


1 Timothy 2:5 - For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;


James 5:16 - Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
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>>130452782
Water and spirit. The water means the word of God. No amount of normal water can save you.
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>>130452987
>I would love to be able to call protestants not christian
You wish you were born before VII... oh wait, non-Catholic Christians are Christians now, because after at least 500 years of considering them to be pagans one, holy and apostolic Church suddenly got enlightened by their own piety :^)
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>>130450358
If you are baptised in the name of the trinity then you can become a christian. If you seek eternal life then you must stop sinning and repent whenever you do sin through the sacrament of reconciliation and attain union with god in consuming the eucharist. God can see you heart anon. He knows all that you will and won't do. You can't hide from him or trick him
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Can anyone answer this>>130452933
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>>130452987
you have to be born again before you get baptized

getting baptized when you dont believe doesnt do anything anyone could do that

Acts 8:12
But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.

>believed first
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>>130449163
But "work" that must be done. The will of God is to believe. Many can say "Lord Lord didn't we do this and this in your name" but if in their heart they didn't believe that salvation if through faith alone, by grace alone, then they have failed to do the will of the Father: which is to believe in the finished work of Christ Jesus on the Cross.
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Amen, brother. I'm praying he goes light on us because I think we're about to reap what we've sewn for the past 150 years.
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>>130440269
Ah yes The Theory of Evolution by the Prophet Charles Darwin. To question it is heresy!
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>>130453620

https://www.gotquestions.org/catholicism.html
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>>130434396
I'm glad you did
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>>130450901
Protestant is just a PR friendly word for heretic
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>>130453667
Fun fact: newer Bibles are taking this verse entirely out.

Acts 8:37 King James Version (KJV)
37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
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>>130453929
How so? Where can I see that the Catholic Church is the same church from Acts?
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>>130434396
Amen brother.
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>>130453068
>God created the universe and earth wholesale?
I don't see the difference, the earth is part of the universe you dip.

>Surely, your acceptance of evolution is at least some kind of proof that "he" used natural and cosmological processes
muh semantics, let me pick apart fifth translations of ancient texts and disprove the existence of a divine mover that way.
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>>130451982
Because look, kike, you have free will, and so has she, what you kikes do with it determines your future after this short stint on Earth. If you think it ends then you are indeed a goyim.

And now a beautiful chant from Rachmaninoff (Ave Maria) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Wy28hHVEo
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>>130451730
A dark brown man covered in body hair. The first thing you notice is his smell. Curry and poo. He has a skinny frame, oily skin and hair. Slimy. Oozing curry and poo from his pores. A thin pathetic moustache. Pitiful.

He pulls down his pants to reveal a small penis surrounded by a mane of smelly greasy pubic hair. He turns around and I see his buttocks smiling at me. His butt is covered in more coarse hair, black. Small cheeks. He bends over and parts his cheeks. A waft of pure poo fills the air. The black hair is thickest here, with a brown hue. Dangle berries can be found. Yesterday's shit clinging on to life. The poo is a light brown, like pumpkin soup. He uses his hands to part the mattered poo hair to reveal a little brown butthole. Caked in poo. Disgusting. The epicentre of filth. An ugly crater. A dirty yet prolific anus.

The Indian.A dark brown man covered in body hair. The first thing you notice is his smell. Curry and poo. He has a skinny frame, oily skin and hair. Slimy. Oozing curry and poo from his pores. A thin pathetic moustache. Pitiful.

He pulls down his pants to reveal a small penis surrounded by a mane of smelly greasy pubic hair. He turns around and I see his buttocks smiling at me. His butt is covered in more coarse hair, black. Small cheeks. He bends over and parts his cheeks. A waft of pure poo fills the air. The black hair is thickest here, with a brown hue. Dangle berries can be found. Yesterday's shit clinging on to life. The poo is a light brown, like pumpkin soup. He uses his hands to part the mattered poo hair to reveal a little brown butthole. Caked in poo. Disgusting. The epicentre of filth. An ugly crater. A dirty yet prolific anus.

The Indian.
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>>130452395
Why are you raising the templar flag if you are protestant? Templars were catholic.

Baptism is real. Do you think jesus lied when he kept on going on about the realness and importance of baptism?
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>>130451815
And you desire to be an autistic faggot.
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>>130451489
just put a sock in it jealous kike , you synagogues are a) a greek word , where's yours? b) most sterile, were people talk about money , BTFO
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>>130452582
Mary is alive. Read the bible. The resurrection of the dead happened as soon as jesus died
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>>130434396
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2AGrXG-AsA

100% agree, OP.

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>>130454438
Out of sheer curiosity, what makes you think Templars were the good guys?
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>>130440269
I believe in evolution, but I also believe it is not as extreme as scientist claim it is (fish to dog, etc.). I also believe earth is not as old as they say it is due to inconsistencies.

I also advise everyone to deeply question how authentic modern scientific claims are. Many are simply exaggerated or bullshit, if they weren't, many scientists would be out of jobs.
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>>130434396
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>>130454550
This timeline doesn't make sense, Mary would have still been alive when this took place right? lol
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>>130451909
They don't like it, Orthodoxy but let's not divide here , you know and you know.
>>130453929
So are you, don't load the thread . Let us not fall into jidf traps and honor the Lord.
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>>130454824
Why do you ninnies waste time on a false religion?
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>>130454438
NONE of that shit is real. Religion is FAKE. god does not exist.
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>>130454438
He wants us to be sincere at all times. It is the only way of growing spiritually.

Of course, there is always the possibility of error. But it's okay as long as it's sincere.
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>>130434396
God bless you brother.
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>>130453620
Read the Bible. 7 Lampstands. 7 Churches, but the entire ecclesia is 1 church, one body, with Christ as the head of the body. Unification under Constantine made a Pontiff the head, which is a departure from Biblical text (not to undercut the work of God through the Vicar in Rome) but to suggest that Jesus established Peter as the first Pope is revisionism.
Take it further to counter the other Anons link: When Peter answered Jesus question "Who do you say that I am" Peter's response "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God. Produced this response from Jesus to Peter: "... you are (no longer Simon) but now called Peter (meaning rock). On THIS rock I will build my church. So the rock or foundation for the church is the revelation that Jesus is the promised Messiah, the one Moses spoke of, the Son of Man approaching the Ancient of Days (that Daniel saw) and the one Isaiah spoke of from chapter 40 - 60. That is the rock. Not Peter the man, but Peter's revelation that Jesus is God.
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121 I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help.
2 My help cometh from the Lord, which made heaven and earth.
3 He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber.
4 Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.
5 The Lord is thy keeper: the Lord is thy shade upon thy right hand.
6 The sun shall not smite thee by day, nor the moon by night.
7 The Lord shall preserve thee from all evil: he shall preserve thy soul.
8 The Lord shall preserve thy going out and thy coming in from this time forth, and even for evermore.

Psalm 121 KJV
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>>130454982
>>130455082

What's it to you what we do ? Do you want us to stop cause your rabbi can't take it ?
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>>130434396
Woe to all, for our dwelling place is distant, and we wander through the domicile of chaos.
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>>130452933
Peter: you are the christ
Jesus: you only know that because my father told you
(Literally at this point the holy spirit descended onto peter to tell him this)
Jesus: you are peter and on this rock i will found my church hell shall not prevail against it what you bind will be bound in heaven you have the keys to the kingdom of heaven
(Peter is ordinated as pope at this point by jesus)
Jesus then ordinates all other apostles even judas at the last supper. When he is ressurected he gives all the apostles the power to bind in heaven what theybind on earth and the power to forgive or retain peoples sins.
In acts we see peter acting as the head of the apostles (protos) talking for them and directing them as the holy spirit guides him. Peter passes on his authority as protos bishop to linus in rome. All other apostles also pass on their own authorities to bishops through ordination. Catholicism is descended from the unbroken line of bishops who received their power from jesus.
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>>130434396
>these larping christian threads
When did /pol/ become so obsessed with appearing to be devout?
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>>130455290
ALL religions are FALSE, therefore all priests, preachers, imams, rabbis, etc, are WRONG.
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>>130434396
I love Jesus (PBUH). RIP.
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>>130448349
No, sinning is rejecting God in your heart. You must accept the teachings of Christ in order to follow the righteous path.
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>>130455267
>the church means roman catholic church
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>>130455606
Piss Be Upon Him, and Muhammad too. Fuck both of them.
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>>130453523
Explain how water means word of god (Jesus) and where you got this idea from
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>>130455570
whats that 82 , have you not had God reveal Himself to you yet ?
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>>130453667
Being baptised is the very act of being born again. Its in the bible
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>>130455719
No. if you knew them you would have loved them.
Peace and Prayers of almighty God may be on their sacred souls.
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although I am pagan I do think christianity has played a role in uniting whites, but the corruption within the religion has long overserved its purpose and is now a tool to further globalist and (((their))) agenda. I respect those willing to reconcile that difference. Orthodox Christians are the most acceptable, but I do believe coming home to your european roots is the best call to awaken the masses to what is really happening.
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>>130454109
Read the writings of the church fathers and history of the church to see how the church in acts grows to the roman, orthodox, oriental and assyrian communions it is today
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>>130454188
Well at least you see how an acceptance of Evolution implies that you need billions of years of "creation", right? That kinda puts it at odds with biblical accounts
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>>130455446
Ok how does that translate into Peter being the first Pope?
Also, at the end are you mentioning apostolic succession?
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>>130454713
They had a papal bull allowing them to act fully with god's authority. They also massacred thousands of jews and slimes.
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>>130454972
She lived long after jesus died
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>>130456132
thers a problem with gods enthroned, you will understand
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>>130454977
How can the catholic church be heretical? Did jesus lie when he said hell shall not prevail against it? How can the body of christ be corrupted?
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>>130456676
So how could she have ascended to heaven with the Saints when Jesus resurrected? She couldn't, which means she in sleeping and waiting for her judgement like the rest of us.
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>>130455723
Christ received baptism from John, and John was baptizing as a form of penitence of sinners. This was a formal rite of repentance. Was very common. It is a crude and physical symbol of something spiritual.

But Christ is the water of life. Whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again.
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>>130455162
Indeed. All humans will be in error on some aspect of the faith. What mayters is intention when one receives what they know yo be truth. Do they accept or reject? Knowing rejection of truth leads to hell for anyone
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>>130454972
Mary survived her Son, why you think the talmud changed the identity of a new born to matrilineal, from patrilineal (in the OT) , to deny Christ's divinity and make him just another jew. It's that bad. Snakes will snake every time, even if it means to change their rules.
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>>130456840
He spoke about the -Church-, let us help our friends. Read the lives of the saints folks, to see how they did it if the bible is not practical enough.
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>>130456338
The pope is simply the the first among equals of bishops. Just like the father is equal in the trinity and leads it the pope is equal to all bishops and leads them. He is the prime minister. Peter was the first ordsined and the rock to build the church on and all the apostles recognised this position when he was given the role of protos in acts and led them all. The pope is just the latin name for this role of protos. Yes i am mentioning apostolic succession
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>>130457205
>Mary survived her Son
Why is everyone telling me what I already said? The catholic claimed they ask Mary to pray for them because she ascended with the Saints. The bible never says anything about her ascending with any Saints.
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>>130457744
Ok, thanks for the explanation
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>>130456297
It puts it at odds with many conventional biblical interpretations and church doctrines.

Just because something is true doesn't mean it has to be taken word for word. We have no primary texts and their is no doubt plenty of oral tradition beforehand.

The gist is god created the world(firmament and heaven), god created man, god outcasts man for his sin. That's what we have to work on, fit whatever cosmic narrative you want.

>>130456840
Churches are run by humans not God. Most of the prophets in the bible are church outcasts. Francis is a heretical jesuit kike globalist.
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So what do you lads think of Hinduism and Buddhism? I have been researching it a lot out of curiosity and the philosophical side to it makes an awful lot of sense to me. I was atheist last year until i started looking into eastern religions and now i realise religion is almost certainly on to something.
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>>130434396
Amen OP.
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Catholicism teaches baby baptism, baptism by sprinkling, clergy being required to abstain, veneration of Mary, and belief in the assumption of Mary, doctrines unheard of by early Christians. It is a false church.
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>>130457071
She didn't ascend. Only the god can ascend into heaven. She lived with john the apostle and then at the end of her earthly life she was assumed (lifted) into heaven by god. God granted her "full of grace" to live a sinless life so that the logos would not be born of a corrupt being. Thus there is no judgment specifically for mary.
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>>130456132

Europe was the most prosperous under Christianity, and I'm not up for adopting a weaker system just because the innately stronger one has degenerated.

>>130456297

The exact details of the Old Testament are to be discarded, and the New doesn't specify how God created the universe. God, being a supreme extraplanar entity, could go about it in any way He wanted, and a universe obviously created would ruin the whole point of free will and Theosis by moral development, turning people into lazy hyperdogmatic zealots. This isn't what Christianity was meant to be and it's why the West is lapsing into atheism and despair.
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>>130434396
Amen brother
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>>130457106
Ok and just like actual bread becomes the body of christ, actual water becomes the water of life hence why water is necessary in baptism for it is real cleansing of the soul
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>>130458158
>she was assumed (lifted) into heaven by god
>God granted her "full of grace" to live a sinless life so that the logos would not be born of a corrupt being. Thus there is no judgment specifically for mary.
Source. You are claiming mary is just as awesome as Jesus? Sinless? She was just a human being anon, this makes no sense to me.
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>>130457757
I'm sorry, also I don't remember very well what happened I'll have to look it up
>>130457744
In catholicism, in Orthodoxy he's not recognized
>>130457852
no of course not ,is the world really 6000 years old ? was Noah a real person from whom 12 tribes of jews populated the world ? Why do all ancient civilizations have a flood myth without Noah ? etc .
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>>130458111
If you actually read the writings of the early christians you would see the early christians also believed and defined these things. Why are you raising a catholic flag if you are a protestant?
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>>130458538
Source: the church throughout ages.

No mary was only a human. She would have been a sinner had god not granted her the grace to be incapable of sinning in order to be uncorrupted and the mother of god. Essentially god took away her free will out of necessity to birth the son of man
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>>130458682
jidf would love we all fight, probably opened the thread, let's not , Protestands soak whatever ypou can and Catholics don't oinsist on selfish viewpoints .

We are all brothers in Christ uniting against the #1 serpent, talmudism and its children, marxism , degeneracy and all that.
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>>130456704
annoying christians that think pagans are satanists are completely retarded. Your ancestors were pagan. Christianity made brother wars against the white man through crusades against them. Do not be proud of taking part in (((their))) agenda.

>>130458382
Rome was not prosperous before Christianity? Greece? India? Egypt? Germanic polytheism is not the only form of paganism. Indo-European spirituality brought forth the most beautiful creations known to man. Christianity was not "prosperous" at all until the Renaissance which was a rejection of cold Christianity for a more secular approach, a calling back home to their roots, which I believe we are now on the forefront of once again.
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>>130459015
>Source: the church throughout ages.
POST A VERSE FROM THE BIBLE THAT STATES THIS ANON.

Catholic.com says under "Full of Grace" that "These blessings included her role as the New Eve (corresponding to Christ's role as the New Adam), her Immaculate Conception, her spiritual motherhood of all Christians, and her Assumption into heaven." As you can see, Mary is greatly exalted even to the point of having "spiritual motherhood of all Christians"--whatever that means.
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>>130458616
In orthodox he is and always has been recognised, see thecouncil of ravenna 2007. Orthodox just use weasel words to dodge his authority such as saying his authority is administrative and not divine
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>>130457864
>So what do you lads think of Hinduism and Buddhism?

Hinduism is an amalgamation of various Indo-European pagan beliefs that survived in India. The concept of Hinduism as a unified belief system came after the British arrived in India and needed some way to classify native beliefs. It's as much a set of tribal rituals as it is a religion. It's shameless about borrowing and stealing ideas from other traditions and then claiming them as its own.
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>>130459015
Catholics recite "The Hail Mary" which says, "Hail Mary, full of grace. The Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death, Amen." Prayer should be offered to God alone--not to any creature no matter how blessed, including Mary.

As you can see, a great deal is derived from the phrase "full of grace." But, does the phrase justify such adoration and doctrinal proclamation? Can the Roman Catholic church rightfully derive so much from so little? In fact, is the phrase "full of grace" used of Mary in the Bible at all? The answers to these questions is "No."
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>>130459159
There are no selfish viewpoints in catholicism. Only truth. And truth is offensive to those who love satan
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>>130459284
Interesting. So are you telling me them anglos gave them it? Couldn't Buddhism have been another factor?
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>>130459160
people fail miserably, but because i know about satanry, that's how I rebecame a ~not so good Christian myself, remember, whatever hides the demon as an active corrupting force is part of his game .
>>130459231
You don't start again the same poem, no pope as prime for Orthodox , end .
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>>130459228
You'll have to look in genesis and all over the place for prophesies of her assumption. Other than that its just logic that the sinless mother of god would be assumed into heaven being full of grace
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>>130459678
>its just logic
>Cannot come up with verses to back up his claims.

How do you rationalize this? Did the pope or Bishops say it was OK?


Exodus 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
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>>130459448
Well that's catholicism view of itself.
>>130459577
nono, probably sais wrongly it's not about hinduism here, like we said before whatever camouflages satan is a part of his game, despite hindu abysmal understanding, you only need fail that paragraph to lose your course in beeing correct and do evil (a snare).
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>>130459160

Rome was also prosperous for 200 years with Christianity. Byzantium was undiminished for another 500 at least. Regardless, it is not correct to call Christianity not European because of the location of its birth; it came to its current form in Rome, matches many aspects of Greek philosophy, and has historically been centered in Europe. Christianity is innately based in Indo-European philosophies, which the Catholic West lost.

When it comes to beauty, I don't find Enlightenment-era, Christian reconstructions of hazy pagan myths to be the most beautiful creations known to man. Christian aesthetics excel.
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>>130459986

> it came to its current form in Rome

by this I mean the Roman Empire, to be clear
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>>130459428
Hail mary is not a prayer. It is a request to mary to intercede and pray for us. When you ask your friends to pray for you are you praying to them?

Paul tells us to intercede for everyone else in the church often.

Adoration for mary is because she was a sinless human and the mother of god. She is very special.

The angel gabriel is the one who says "hail (mary) full of grace the lord is with thee" so yes its in the bible
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why don't the shitty mods remove these non-political threads
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>>130459678
The phrase "full of grace" in Greek is "plaras karitos," and it occurs in only two places in the New Testament; neither one is in reference to Mary.

"And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14).
"And Stephen, full of grace and power, was performing great wonders and signs among the people." (Acts 6:8).

The first citation refers to Jesus who is obviously full of grace. Jesus is God in flesh, the crucified and risen Lord, who cleanses us from our sins. In the second citation it is Stephen who is full of grace. We can certainly affirm that Jesus was conceived without sin and remained sinless, but can we conclude this about Stephen as well? Certainly not. The phrase "full of grace" does not necessitate sinlessness by virtue of its use. In Stephen's case it signifies that he was "full of the Spirit and of wisdom," along with faith and the Holy Spirit (Acts 6:3, 5). But Stephen was a sinner. Nevertheless, where does the phrase "full of grace" come from regarding Mary?
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>>130459585
This is absolute brainwashing. I do credit Christianity for initially uniting most whites against the muslim horde, but then following the disgusting horrors of massacre crusades against fellow kin that stuck to their roots is an unforgivable crime. Your jewish lord deceived you into killing your own brothers who did not fall for the israel trap. It does amaze me that the pagan traditions have still survived in some places despite all the death and subversion.

As I said, I can tolerate Orthodox christians because they are at least not globalist puppets like Catholics and Protestants, but to call those that embrace their own heritage satanists is repulsive.
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>>130460065
The Latin Vulgate and other translations

The Latin Vulgate is the Latin translation of the Bible done by St. Jerome in the fourth century. It is here in Luke 1:28 that is found the unfortunate Latin translation which says "ave gratia plena "Hail full of grace.'" Remember, the New Testament was written in Greek--not Latin--but the Roman Church has derived its doctrine from the Latin translation--not the Greek original. Therefore, it constructed its doctrine on a false translation. Of course, it cannot correct itself since so much is invested in the worship, adoration, and prayer to Mary in the Roman Catholic Church; and to recant of this false teaching would greatly lessen its credibility. Unfortunately, this means that millions of Catholics will continue to look to Mary for help--not Christ who is truly full of grace.

So what do the other translations say about Luke 1:28? Let's find out.

The Nestle Aland 26th edition, Greek New Testament Interlinear--"having gone into her he said rejoice one having been favored, the master is with you."
The NRSV English Greek Reverse Interlinear New Testament--And he came to her and said, "Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you."
American Standard Version--"And he came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favored, the Lord is with thee."
English Standard Version--"And he came to her and said, Greetings, O favored one, the Lord is with you!
Today's English Version--'"The angel came to her and said, “Peace be with you! The Lord is with you and has greatly blessed you!”
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>>130459931
I havent memorised the bible. Also not everything is in the bible. I rationalise this because 2000 years of bishops inspired by the most powerful form of the holy spirit who devoted their lives to theology rationalised it and i have faith in jesus and the bishops. Pope declared assumption of mary dogma in the 20th century
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>>130434396
>sand kike on a stick
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>>130460383
King James Version--"And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women."
New American Standard Bible--"And coming in, he said to her, Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you.
New International Version--"The angel went to her and said, Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.
New King James Version--"And having come in, the angel said to her, Rejoice, highly favored one, the Lord is with you; blessed are you among women!"
Revised Standard Version--"And he came to her and said, 'Hail, O favored one, the Lord is with you!'
New Revised Standard Version--And he came to her and said, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you.”
The New Century Version--The angel came to her and said, “Greetings! The Lord has blessed you and is with you.”
New Living Translation--Gabriel appeared to her and said, “Greetings, favored woman! The Lord is with you!'”
The Cambridge Paragraph Bible--And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, 'thou that art 'highly favoured, 'the Lord is with thee: 'blessed art thou among women.'
The Holman Christian Standard Bible--"And the angel came to her and said, “Rejoice, favored woman! The Lord is with you."
International Standard Version--'"The angel'' came to her and said, “'Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you!"
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>>130446261
Anon, you just lost bad!
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>>130460183
The angel gabriel says hail full of grace to mary

What version are you using
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>>130434396
christfags don't realize jesus/god doesn't exist

christfags are filled with pedophile priests and jewery money scamsa
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>>130460468
What does the Greek say here for "highly favored one? It is the single Greek word kexaritomena and means highly favored, make accepted, make graceful, etc. It does not mean "full of grace" which is "plaras karitos" (plaras = full and karitos = Grace) in the Greek.

5923 χαριτόω (charitoō): vb.; Str 5487; TDNT 9.372—LN 88.66 show kindness graciously give, freely give (Eph 1:6); as a passive participle, subst., “one highly favored.”1
5487 χαριτόω [charitoo /khar·ee·to·o/] v. From 5485; TDNT 9:372; TDNTA 1298; GK 5923; Two occurrences; AV translates as “be highly favoured” once, and “make accepted” once. 1 to make graceful. 1a charming, lovely, agreeable. 2 to peruse with grace, compass with favour. 3 to honour with blessings.2

Therefore, the Roman Catholic Church has manufactured far too much doctrine concerning Mary out of the erroneous translation of the Latin Vulgate Bible, and that the RCC needs to recant its false teaching concerning Mary.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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