Communism is the true redpill

>>130430230

It sounds like you have absolutely no clue what youre talking about.

> you worship national SOCIALISM but you hate communism

Just lurk moar, and stop making utterly retarded threads like these. There have been several threads on this issue, where redditfags such as yourself can actually learn something.

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>>130430230
Marx was redpilled on guns, I wonder what else he was redpilled on?

>>130430572
I don't use reddit or social media at all, in fact I don't have a permanent internet connection since I live in a commune. You guys seem to have NO clue what communism actually entails, you're fucking retarded if you think you've come to the conclusion.
>>130430694
Everything. He wasn't without fault but he did know how to deal with the jews and banksters.

>>130431001
You dont really see people shit on Marx for his views on the economy, only libertarians seem to disagree on him. What most natsocs disagree with is his view on humans.

When it comes to
>Hurrdurr communism is good, USSR wasnt real communism

Communism is way to idealistic to work. For it to work it would mean that humans have to be stripped off their most basic instincts.

>>130431001
Wasn't Karl Marx a literal kike himself ?

>>130431659
>For it to work it would mean that humans have to be stripped off their most basic instincts.
It's literally the other way around, we need to get back to the Urgesellschaft. People used to be compatible with proper communism, they were just tainted and twisted.
>>130431966
He converted.

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>>130430230
Nah

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>>130431966
He was, and most in the NKVD were jews and in the Spartacist uprising. But, dont forget that OP is a master in communism and knows everything about it, despite not knowing the difference between communism, socialism and national-socialism.

>>130432097
>People used to be compatible with proper communism
>People used to be compatible

Youre telling me that there was a time where people didnt have a need for recognition, power and status?

>>130432654
>Youre telling me that there was a time where people didnt have a need for recognition, power and status?
Read up on the Urgesellschaft. It's basically your natsoc utopia where everyone saw each other as family.

>>130432972
>here everyone saw each other as family.
But family is a social construct according to commie teachings you fucking mong.

Do you not understanding what the main differences between communism/socialism and National-socialism is?

In case you arent aware of it, communism is international and places the worker in the centre. National-socialism is NOT inernational and places the benefit of the country in the centre.

Would you like me to explain some other very basic things for you aswell?

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>>130430694
marx himself was extremely redpilled on the jews

>>130433527
>But family is a social construct according to commie teachings you fucking mong.
in a commune everyone sees each other "as family", as you would see your own flesh and blood. As I said, make it national communism, I don't care if you need that extra step to realize the truth, but stop trying to frame it as your enemy.

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>>130433767
>national communism

Youre just describing traditionalism with less patriarchy and more "everything is a social construct".

Just lurk more and you wouldnt seem like a complete mong.

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>>130430230
>Muh Marxism is better

>>130433955
Jesus christ.... Are you seriously conflating this modern neomarxist bullshit with PROPER communism?

>>130430230
>Marx himself was of jewish descend
>National socialism is not like the Marxist socialism, which has been said by Hitler himself.
>Communism has never really been tried because everytime someone tries it, it turns out into a totalitarian shithole.
>Most of the commies in the USSR were jews.
Go figure

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>>130430230
>Muh Communism helps the poor

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There's way too many commie threads on my /pol/ today.

Are we being raided by niggers, kikes, 16 year olds, or a combination of all 3?

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>>130430230
>Muh Marxism works
>Muh Capitalism terrible

>>130434161
he converted
that's bullshit
it's never been done correctly, that is the point
citation needed
>>130434283
it's a project from my professor, but don't tell anyone

>>130434059
Yes I am, because the end result of trying to achieve this utopia would result in what I am describing. If you've ever picked up a history book youd quickly realize that several countries have tried to achieve communism, but never manage to reach it because it wont work.

You can go
>but that wasnt real communism
all you want, but you gotta realize just how utterly idealistic you are and the premises for the ideology to work doesnt exist.

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>>130434283
>Are we being raided by niggers, kikes, 16 year olds, or a combination of all 3?

By the letter soup agencies

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Jews pls go

>>130433767
>in a commune everyone sees each other "as family"

Yeah this is just as unwieldy and fantastical an idea as communism itself. It's stupid and doesn't work. You can't see people who aren't related to you "as family"

>Marx was redpilled on Jews!

Marx was just another self-hating Jew, the same way as almost all communists are self-hating bourgeoisie trying to expiate their guilt.

They're fundamentally dysfunctional people.

>>130430230
National Socialism is the true redpill

READ GOTTFRIED FEDER

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>>130430230

>>130434027
give me a rigorous explanation as to why Saudi Arabia is more "economically free" than Iran?

>>130434796
They have a breakdown of how each country is rated at: http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

>>130434703
>GOTTFRIED FEDER
Any books that you recommend?

>>130434796
Here's the breakdown of Saudi Arabia's rating: http://www.heritage.org/index/country/saudiarabia

>>130430694
He was about as redpilled on guns as Trudeau. Both believe a specific group should be the only ones who have access to arms, and that ownership of arms is not a universal right.

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>>130430230

>>130430230
too gay, did not read
please suck giant nigger cock
sage, and screw flanders

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>>130434453
If it was bullshit why the hell 2 socialist countries fought against each other?
My point is that communism can never be tried, because requires everyone to agree to it. So no way this happens naturaly so you need to enforce it. So you enforce it and suddenly an elite appears. Here communism ends and the gommunism that ruined eastern Europe begins.

>>130434696
>forgetting socialism is the most studied economic theory ever
>forgetting that Marx himself wrote a 2500 page book on why capitalism is shit

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>Communists hate the jews

PfffffftHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>>130434932
>>130435202

about Iran's judicial system
>The government has confiscated property belonging to religious minorities. The judicial system is not independent; the supreme leader directly appoints the head of the judiciary, who in turn appoints senior judges. Corruption is pervasive. The hard-line clerical establishment has gained great wealth through control of tax-exempt foundations that dominate many economic sectors.
this describes the Saudi judicial system perfectly


lol Saudis have more government spending than Iran and Bangladesh and an absolute monarchy yet the are rated as being more economically free than Bangladesh or Iran
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/bangladesh
>The government’s inability to provide even minimal public goods further limits opportunities for business development and job growth.
wtf! are they asking the government for more spending!?

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>>130430230
Fuck off hitler did nothing wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oHLu6HkDHY

>>130436153
my point is that they pick rich nations to be economically free and rate poor nations as not economically free. Norway has more government spending, regulations and taxes than Bangladish but is rated as more economically free

>>130436121
Ahh I see the only good thing Stalin did on that graph: The great Jew purge.

my parents that lived under communism say anybody who says communism is good should root in hell.also my father told me that communism in theory is really beautiful and human,but in practice will never be the same and it will never work.

>>130436645
Your parents are probably muslims brainwashed by Arabs into unironically believing beheading those who insult islam

To Hilter "socialism" meant something quite different. It was more like "community spirit". All members of the community coming together to work for a common goal and a common purpose.

The national socialist system used socialism tactically to achieve social good among the population. For example, giving unemployed people something to do, so they would be able to gain the confidence to enter the workforce. Eugenics policies designed to provide a better gene pool for your children to marry into, and ensure a rising trend for the future of the race. Policies that eliminated degeneracy, things that would harm the social fabric of the community.

Marxism is very different. It's about the poor stealing from the rich, an ideology that tries to force absolute equality for all people. It's against human nature, and even against he logic of economics. Hitler wrote about the need for the profit motive, and the national socialist economy allowed a free market and competition.

>>130430230
get out of my country!

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>>130434283
t. alphabet soup

>>130430230
James Warburg and J.P. Morgan were both okay with Marx. Marx also praised the Rothschilds who were a prominent banking family at the time. If Marx was supposedly such an "anti-capitalist" then how is it that he was supported by the biggest capitalists of his time?

>>130436868
my parents are christians actually...who the fuck likes communism?

>>130437040
retarded westerners

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>>130430230
>They have an alternative model that actually make sure that the kikes can't get into power again.
I need an explanation here.

>>130430230
>they have an alternative model that actually make sure that the kikes can't get into power again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM

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>>130430230
>An economic theorie made by a philosoph

Why tf do you keep reading this bullshit ?
Do you ecer considered reading something that comes from a real economist ?

>>130430230
>for the love of god
>hate communism

>>130436431
Citation Needed

>>130437278
they this communism is good.i've heard stories from my parents about that time,how they lived a life without a purpose,dirt poor,working everyday,afraid to say their opinion,all the dreams crushed,people who would break down day by day,inhuman laws who would kill you for having different opinion.

>>1304358Y97
>My economic planning and restrictions have a different intention
>10/10 totally different from normal kike socialism

>>130430230
>You guys are fucking retarded, you keep complaining about the jews, you worship national SOCIALISM but you hate communism?
>What is the night of the long knives?
Corporatism=/=Socialism=/=Capitalism
>Communists hate the jews
*Russians hate the jews. The average Communist likes the jews.
>they hate the bankers and they have an actual plan to deal with them.
They hate the banker because "lol he's rich". They like jews like Magnus Hirschfeld. And they're plan is using the jews to push their shitty ideology.
>They have an alternative model that actually make sure that the kikes can't get into power again.
By what? Supporting the influencing hard and soft sciences to push their ideology by the jews? By granting as much power to mid level jewish bureaucrats as they can?
>Why are you so retarded? For all I care make it national communism, but for the love of god accept it already as the proper solution to the problems we're facing right now.
Starving to death would just put the West out of its misery.

>>130437371
Shaky line of reasoning m8. "Real economists" range from Rothbard to Krugman to Richard Wolff, so you have the entire spectrum of economic thought backed by people with economics degrees.

Also, based Hoppe is both a philosopher and economist.

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>>130437371
>>130437701

>>130437701
I never said anything you think i said.

But even if my statement would still be right, since commies are stuck to Marx when it comes to a economic theory

>>130437817
>someone owns a thing
>help help I'm being oppressed!
This is why nobody takes Marxists seriously.

>>130430230
Communism = twice the genocides and twice the starvation, but I am sure your version is better

>>130438037
>nobody takes Marxists seriously
Were you under a rock for the last 150 years?

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>>130437303
Original

>>130438203
I'm sure he'll succeed where all others have failed. I'm sure OP is the only one talented enough to usher in a communist utopia. I'm, sure it would not lead to another 100 million dead and complete economic destruction if only the OP did it. Nobody else throughout history could make communism work except OP.

>>130438294
>we wuz relevant
I'm talking about now. Of course, if you want to bring up historical examples from the past 150 years, we can certainly talk about all those successful and prosperous examples of Marxist nations that happened, like the USSR or China or Cuba or Vietnam or Venezuela or

>>130437817
Kind of like how the Politburo modified statistics too? Or how the gov't pushed soviet realism?

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>>130438608
>USSR or China or Cuba or Vietnam or Venezuela
>successful communist countries

Kek

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>>130438608
>I'm talking about now.
Oh, right now, the media is shitting its pants. Posting fanfiction. Shitty articles.

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/13/14698812/bernie-trump-corbyn-left-wing-populism

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/why-the-alt-center-is-a-problem-too.html

>>130439010
Let's archive it

>https://vox com/world/2017/3/13/14698812/bernie-trump-corbyn-left-wing-populism
https://archive.is/l3YUL
>http://nymag com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/why-the-alt-center-is-a-problem-too.html
https://archive.is/HSCYp

>>130439010
Whoops.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/why-the-alt-left-is-a-problem

>>130439074
Are you fucking stalking me?

In all seriousness though, who would ever want to live in a society where everyone is nearly 100% equal. Where genders aren't different, where races aren't different, where all culture is the same everywhere, where everyone acts the same, eats the same food, etc. It would be sensory deprivation hell. It would be the worse most-boring existence anyone could ever hope for.

>>130439146
It's the Norwegian bro, he stalks unarchived links.

>>130439157
It's the opposite of utopia in nearly every way.

>>130439146
Stop leaving unarchived links

>>130439242
>That's assuming it works.
I'm so glad it doesn't work!

>>130433767
Faggots and degenerates
>Not my enemy
A state without borders, but huge government that has a world-monopoly over human race, competition is eliminated
>Not my enemy
Random hobos being provided my taxpayer money for no good reason
>Not my enemy
Not being able to boycott people whose politics you don't like because there is no money in the first place
>Not my enemy

I could go on

>>130439010
>>130439114
So not only did Marxist experiements fail miserably every single time they were tried, but shockingly people don't want to go through that bullshit again? Well, I suppose you're right in that people take Marxism seriously, so I retract my previous statement.

>>130437569
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/norway

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>>130430230
>>130430694
I would proudly be a communist. However, Marx's rather conservative social views have been watered down over time, and are viewed with extreme hostility by modern communists and socialists.

Just for example, I joined the IWW for a while and I was eventually expelled simply for having socially conservative views, and caring more about American workers.

Hoping OP will still reply

>people understand that the media is controlled by the rich
>people understand that the media lies and pushes narratives
>people still believe the media when it comes to discussing communism, even though they have every single reason to deliberately lie to you about it
>>>/wsg/1722990
>>>/wsg/1722993

>>130438154
lol you are ignoring the right-wing venezuela puppet state that existed before chavez got into power in the 2000s
and ignoring the deposal of pinochet

Sad!

>>130436431
They include things like gov't corruption in the index for a reason. It isn't arbitrary and it still has a basis, look at the individual numbers and you will see Norway scores less than 60s on taxes and gov't spending, but it is brought up by business freedom. That is how indexes work.

>>130433767
>in a commune everyone sees each other "as family"
>things that have never ever happened even once

>>130439909
The problem is that Communists are not socially conservative today as they originally were 200 years ago.

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>>130439541
Is that why the West had to fuck up the Russian election in 1996 to prevent a commie from being elected? Is that why people regret communism's collapse more and more? Is that why millenials the generation that despise capitalism the most?

Pretending reality is one way doesn't make it true.

>>130439962
You are blaming everyone else for the problems with your ideology. Problems that have been brought up for 150 years now and no Marxist has yet solved.

Sad!

>>130439688
National Socialism is far better than Communism, planned economies are proved to fail over and over again. Both China and USSR went from planned economies to state capitalist.

>>130439688
lol quasi-comrade the best thing to do is not bring up those issues and bring in more people who do not care about those issues into the group, then when you have a plurality then you can denounce it

communism can't grow if you let those people dominate things, the best thing to do is organize more numbers than them

>>130430230
This is a slide thread
>>130437902

>>130430230

(((((Communism))))) = Unlimited juden power.

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I recommend "The captive mind" by Czesław Miłosz, a great polish poet and writer. The main focus of the book is a take on how the communist system takes hold of the intellectuals, who then shill the ideology with varying levels of honesty. A very good read from someone who lived communism, only 200 pages.

Wrong Communism is funded and propagated by
Oligarchs
Bankers
Dictators
>dumb ass!

>>130440255
>corporations engage in central planning
>Incan Empire engaged in central planning
>Russia went from a backwater shithole to the second most powerful country in the world with central planning
>this asshole comes along and says
>"planned economies are proved to fail over and over again"

>>130440255
National socialism will never work in America because the national identity is too shallow. Maybe in the UK

>>130440263
That's a difficult thing to do

>>130440008
that is the flaw with the whole thing, they put in so many factors but don't announce the weights of those factors so they can just hand-wave away and say
>well Bangladesh is corrupt so it is not economically free
then use to argue against small social democratic reforms like higher government spending, taxes and regulations. this implicitly equates those things to corruption

even though Norway having more regulations, taxes and government spending but so little corruption as to be economically free, proves that corruption has nothing to do with regulation, taxes and government spending

also does not explain how saudia arabia is more economically free than iran, that is a blatant case of the richer country being chosen as being economically free

>>130439962
>Nationalize as many industries as possible under Chavez
>Rely heavily on oil money and fail to diversify when there has been enough time to do so
>Every leftist ignores their monocultured economy and calls them the best example of socialism working
>17 years later this oil money dries up
>"Well you see there were these guys 17 years ago, blame them, not us."
Okay pal.

>>130440756
i know it is difficult but it will get easier as more people become class conscious
>>130440237
your cute little chart has glaring omissions that would lead one erroneous conclusions

>>130436153
>>130435202
>>130434796

sandnigger here,

saudi arabia is the easiest country in the world to have a business, you pay no income tax (literally zero), no sales tax, barely any customs/tariffs, in saudi arabia if you wake up early and are mildly literate you will become a billionaire

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>>130430230
Georgism is the true red pill

Tax Land not Man

>>130440895
>Nationalize as many industries as possible under Chavez
false, venezuela has a government spending rate of 40.2 percent of gdp
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/venezuela
norway has on of 45.3 percent of gdp
http://www.heritage.org/index/country/norway

>>130441011
>tfw there will never be a party as good as the Japanese CP in the US

>>130441099
>sandnigger here,
opinion discarded

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>>130441492

>how to detect a newfriend

>>130440554
>corporations engage in central planning
Corporations and states aren't the same things.

>Incan Empire
How many Incans are left now?

>Russia went from a backwater shithole to the second most powerful country in the world with central planning
Russia had a lot of natural resources which allowed it to do this. Also is that why the USSR overtook the United States in terms of GDP? and living standards improved year after year?

>this asshole comes along and says
>"planned economies are proved to fail over and over again"
Name one economy that controls investment, production, prices, wages and isn't a total shithole.

>>130440779
Gov't corruption is an impediment on economic freedom though, it should be included in the index. If your argument is that it is overweighted, they have individual indicators within the index you can look at too.
>even though Norway having more regulations, taxes and government spending but so little corruption as to be economically free, proves that corruption has nothing to do with regulation, taxes and government spending
Look at the individual scores in the index, Norway fails in gov't spending and taxation, and if you compare to a the US (which it almost always is in the case of "small social democratic reforms") you will see the US has almost as low of scores as Norway in those two aspects.
>also does not explain how saudia arabia is more economically free than iran, that is a blatant case of the richer country being chosen as being economically free
Iran scores lower in business, labor, and monetary freedoms. Also Iran's political parties are heavily influenced by fascist ideas.
>>130441402
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-election-nationalizations-idUSBRE89701X20121008
>inb4 archive Norwegian calls me a shill for leaving this unarchived

>>130442254
Also this was in 2012, even more had been nationalized since then

>>130439688
>Just for example, I joined the IWW for a while and I was eventually expelled simply for having socially conservative views, and caring more about American workers.
Disgusting, "socialists" like that should be shot.

>>130442254
>Iran scores lower in business, labor, and monetary freedoms
on what basis?
>Gov't corruption is an impediment on economic freedom
of course, but I am not a corruptionist, no one is, yet the right-wingers will use this metric to make arguments against socialism, as if corruption was something socialist are arguing for

point is don't making arguments against A,B and C using a metric that factors in A, B, C and D, and then give D so much weight it makes the whole endeavor pointless

>>130442411
the heritage foundation data is more recent and it still says Norwegian spending is a higher percentage of GDP than Venezuela's spending

>>130442694
Can you please elaborate? Not on the shooting part, but where the problem is?

>>130430230
>Marx was a jew
>Communist revolution propagated by jews
>but communism is anti-jewish
Communism is a fantasy, as well-- Marx's philosophy is deeply and fundamentally flawed.

You did get one thing right, at least: Marx's socialism saw the bourgeois as the source of all evil. Hitler's socialism looked at the ranks of the bourgeois and found nothing but jews.

>>130442837
>on what basis?
It provides a quick overview under each of the categories. For example under Norway it explains why it scored so high on trade freedoms (low tariffs).
>of course, but I am not a corruptionist, no one is, yet the right-wingers will use this metric to make arguments against socialism, as if corruption was something socialist are arguing for
Then tell them to use the individual numbers within the metric. You will find Norway scores low in spending, taxation, and labor freedoms, but high in business, trade, and monetary freedoms.
>point is don't making arguments against A,B and C using a metric that factors in A, B, C and D, and then give D so much weight it makes the whole endeavor pointless
Then ask them to look at the individual scores factored into the index, Norway still scores fairly well.
>>130442959
Do you not know what nationalization is? The Venezuelan gov't took over industries, failed to make them grow and diversify, then the country went to shit once oil money dried up. Nationalization =/= gov't spending

>>130430230
Hitler socialism was not about means of production but was socialism of human beings.
natsoc made the strongest nation on the planet in few years.
communism is the last step of a nation before its demise

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>>130430230

It was made by Jews to brainwash and weaken goyim

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>>130443174
He shouldn't be kicked out of a socialist organization for having conservative views. Socialism is about worker ownership over the means of production. It has nothing to do with social views. You can believe that all niggers should be killed and that the only workers left should be whites and you'd still be a socialist. You can be against gay marriage, abortion, etc... etc... and still be a socialist. You can also be a total degenerate faggot and be a socialist. The fact that he was kicked out is retarded because as I said, the definition of socialism is only about worker ownership, nothing more, nothing less. The fact that they kicked him out of that group shows that those people are progressive liberal faggots that like to LARP in red and could give two shits about the economics of socialism.

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>>130443174
>>130444040
And what makes it even more hypocritical is that many of their heroes were redpilled on the Jews but instead they ignore that part of the theory in favor of progressive faggotry. Pic related is a good example.

>>130443662
Besides I would like to point out that comparing countries that have low gov't integrity scores against high gov't integrity scores is incredibly dubious because that usually means that you are comparing a third world country to a first world country. If someone is making a comparison between say Columbia and Singapore and saying "hey look this proves this", they aren't worth arguing with. Almost all realistic and fair comparisons will have similar gov't integrity scores.

>>130443662
>Then tell them to use the individual numbers within the metric
I am not the CEO of the heritage foundation
>>130443662
>Nationalization =/= gov't spending
is government spending socialism? because if it is, nationalization =/= socialism. Do you agree or disagree?
Venezuela has a powerful private sector
>while Venezuela has moved away from free-market capitalism, its economy is hardly socialist. The private sector, not the state (and still less the social economy), controls the overwhelming majority of economic activity. Between 1999 and 2011, the private sector’s share of economic activity increased, from 65 percent to 71 percent.
https://www.thenation.com/article/why-is-venezuela-in-crisis/

>>130445387
he wasn't, read any biography on him longer than 5 sentences

>forgets that the bolsheviks were jewish

>>130445091
>I am not the CEO of the heritage foundation
If your problem is with the index, the index isn't flawed. You are complaining that the index includes D, but they provide you with an individual breakdown of A, B, C, and D.
is government spending socialism? because if >it is, nationalization =/= socialism. Do you agree or disagree?
NATIONALIZATION == SOCIALISM, ARE YOU GENUINELY ARGUING THAT THE GOV'T TAKING OVER A CAPITALIST CONTROLLED INDUSTRY IN THE NAME OF THE PEOPLE ISN'T SOCIALISM. YOU ARGUED AGAINST THEIR NATIONALIZATION BY SAYING THEY HAVE LOWER GOV'T SPENDING THAN NORWAY, THAT DOESN'T DISPROVE NATIONALIZATION NOR IS SIMPLY SPENDING MONEY SOCIALISM.
>Venezuela has a powerful private sector
The Nation article literally links a source that says that that exact number is flawed as their source for that number.

>>130445775
the head of the NKVD Felix Dzerzhinsky was from Polish nobility, Stalin, Hoxha, Mao Zedong, Ho Chi Minh, Thomas Sankara Che Guevara, Fidel Castro all non-Jews

>>130444423
Ah, thank you for elaborating. I misunderstood.

>>130445948
You clumsily avoided my question about you believing government spending == socialism
you claim
Nationalization =/= gov't spending
and
NATIONALIZATION == SOCIALISM
so is government spending == socialism?

>>130446396
np

>>130446608
Was Engels a Jew? was 90% of the Bolsheviks Jewish?

>>130446520
>so is government spending == socialism?
No, gov't spending CAN be socialism. For example if the gov't spends that money directly on constructing roads by giving it to a state controlled company, yes. However if the gov't creates a contract bid, and gives the money to a private contractor to build a road, that would not be socialism. That would be corporatism.

>>130445387
At best, European Jews have far removed ancestors that were actual biblical Hebrews.

As for Karl Marx, he was baptized a Christian, the biggest offense possible to his rabbinical ancestors. As for his father, he converted to Christianity before Marx was born (whether to avoid anti-Semitism or not, this would be a great offense against Karl Marx's grandfather, a rabbi). All of Marx's siblings were also baptized and so was his mother.

>>130446784
Engels was absolutely not Jewish.

>In 1907, 78.3% of the Bolsheviks were Russian and 10% were Jewish (34% and 20% for the Mensheviks).

>>130430230
>Thinking were actual nazis who suck Hitler's inbred dick

>>130447063
nice source
>>130446799
explain how a state can have low government spending and still be socialist
can socialism be government spending free?

>>130447063
Are you saying Judaism is a race?

>>130430230

>communists hate the jews

Socialism was started and promoted by Jews, communists were funded by Russian kikes, the worst species of Jew on the planet.

Enjoy being goyimed. I hope one day you live in one of your Utopias like China, North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela.

>>130447437
>>130447558
>>130447692
>What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.

-Karl Marx's "On The Jewish Question"

>>130447558
Where do you get that from?

>>130447437
>explain how a state can have low government spending and still be socialist
It will always have fairly high gov't spending. I never said that it won't. However I did say that gov't spending doesn't equal socialism because it doesn't. This is because it has to use this money to fund nationalized industries. Gov't spending =/= socialism, it can equal it. If it is true that gov't spending equals socialism, then the US car industry is socialist because it received gov't money to create fuel efficient cars.

>>130436949
go back to your shithole of /leftypol/ and never come back you leftynigger

>>130430230
>Communists hate the jews
wrong
>they hate the bankers
wrong again