Life Without A Tribe

Guess I had better bump it while I am here.

>>130427049
Yeah, there was a thread a month or so ago on here about some guy who dropped out of society and lived in the woods for years. He regularly raided vacant mountain vacation homes and campgrounds for supplies and hadn't directly interacted with another human being for decades.

Don't remember his name though

there was one guy living in the woods for 15 years in fucking new hampshire or something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Thomas_Knight

there's the fucker

>>130427397
The North Pond Hermit. Very interesting story, but I mean alone without burgling people. Do these people exist, could one do it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agafia_Lykova

This woman was born in the Taiga, and still survives, but had family initially.

>>130427049
Maybe read about ted kacinzky

>>130427589

there was a jap that lived by himself after world war 2 and he didn't even have toiler paper

Japanese soldiers who survived alone on islands in the pacific after ww2. There was a Russian family that lived in isolation for decades and didn't know the cold war had ended or some shit. There are several anchorites/hermits in the eastern orthodox tradition I recall there being some documentaries on. The main thing is a mental desire and feeling of purpose. Monks,soldiers, and people who think they are under siege will continue on while others who lose hope end up in despair.

>>130427785
Oh, I have read almost all of Uncle Ted's stuff, but he was basically on neetbux as his mother sent him cash every month.

>>130427850
Hiroo Oneida I believe. Stole from filippino villagers though, so not quite solo.

of course people can survive on their own. Its been done since the dawn of man. Its just less so now because there is a lot more people on the planet .So youre bound to run in to someone.

survivalists are a thing.

>>130428427
I believe, brother. Just looking for examples for case study. By their very nature they would be illusive, but who knows?

>>130427049
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/122023099/

having autism helps

>>130429170
Not solo, just a parasite.

>>130427049
tell that to people that live in Alaska.

>>130427049
Hermits are recorded all throughout history.

>>130429624
Without outside help? Heimo Korth, for instance, basically has to spend his life trapping and selling it for dollars to survive.

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>>130427049
Maybe Ted Kaczyński?

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>>130427049

Food is for the weak

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_McCandless

>>130427049
A person can live alone. It's possible, it'd just be miserable and hand to mouth.

>>130429884

be high in introversion and low in agreeableness maybe, like why did evolution create us?

extrovert + low agreeableness = criminal
introvert + low agreeableness = living alone in the woods

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss

Richard Proenneke comes close.

>>130430519
His bro flew supplies in multiple times a year. Regardless, he is pretty cool and interesting.

>>130430149
Your supposed to find another introvert+low agreeableness person who happens to have a vagina and then go live in the woods together shooting out new spergs every few years

I'd prefer to live alone in a not so remote part of any country that would allow me to earn money and not have to interact with a lot of people.

maybe this stems from a boiling point of being sick and tied of people and having to constantly choke down disgust at their degeneracy just to interact as a necessity for work.

Im at a loss of what profession would allow this lifestyle without acquiring significant debt in reeducating myself.

I'm not talking about full blown hermit. I'd prefer to not hear or see my neighbors, have internet and utilities and purchase and have delivered a large percentage of things I need.

Why would you do that though?
Division of labor is a evolutionary preferred trait, doing all by yourself is less effective
Not to mention that humans evolved as a group/tribal species

I can get the doing all by yourself vibe, but I think it is more of a self inflicted burden. Even considering dropping out of society is basically just that

As for more recommendations, Im just gonna assume you read Robinson Crusoe
The way of Men by Jack Donovan somewhat touches on the subject and is overall a very interesting and important read

>>130430149
Extroversion/introversion doesn't even mean that you like social stuff or not dumbass. Educate yourself.

>>130431584
did you even check out what the words means?
two people with low agreeableness would not work together. i think two introverted also is pretty bad

>>130432362
same goes for you, your wrong

>>130427049
>>130427116
OP can only bump after ten minutes

>>130427261
>He regularly raided vacant mountain vacation homes and campgrounds for supplies and hadn't directly interacted with another human being for decades

Yeah there was even a movie about him if I remember correctly. The point is that this guy couldn't have had survived had he not had access to man-made goods.

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leopard man. he lived on an island in the uk by himself for 20 years but i think he still got food from somewhere.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2008/oct/28/scotland

>>130433316
Clickbaiters into archive
https://archive.is/cVzux

>>130427049

I'm going hardcore isolation in the next spring. I saved up about $35K and I am planing on buying a plot of land with a well in the midwest and a small tow trailer that I can modify.

I am planning on growing a 1/4 acre of vegetables, mostly potatoes, and some dwarf fruit / nut trees. Also breed rabbits.

>>130433316
14:36:52
>>130433358
14:37:18
calle calle

>>130433442
I would like to have seen montana

>>130427589
Of course it can be done it's not easy though. Requires substantial knowledge and willpower to let go off material possessions and family.

>>130427049
look what solitary does

>>130433635

Montana has some really nice areas, unfortunately they are mostly national parks. 99% of the land you can buy there is flat savanna.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Thomas_Knight

>Christopher Thomas Knight (born 7 December 1965), also known as the North Pond Hermit, is a former hermit who lived almost without human contact for 27 years in the woods in Maine.[1]

>Knight lived in a crude camp positioned in a particularly dense and unforgiving part of old growth forest in central Maine, yet was within about a mile of summer cabins throughout his entire hermitage. Because he entered the woods with almost no possessions, his camp was composed entirely of items stolen from nearby cabins and camps. He survived by committing approximately 1,000 burglaries against houses in the area, at a rate of approximately 40 per year.[2]

>>130427049
That jap guy that lived in an island that never got the news about the war ending.

>>130427850
There was a similar story I Guam if I recall

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You can survive alone for long periods of time here is an article on someone who did.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/world/asia/japan-philippines-ww2-soldier-dies/index.html

>>130427261
christopher knight

>>130434920
Stealing man made shit from people who bring it nearby doesnt sound like not relying on others with no help.

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Watch the first 3 seasons of the TV show Alone. They leave a bunch of people in the woods alone and they have to survive. They tap out due to injuries, starvation, and being alone and missing people.

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>>130427049
Of course humans can ''survive'' alone. But to live a meaningful life? That's what he's meaning. Listening right now at JRE#975. This guy is great. Spot on.

I think humans will return to tribes. The time of individualism has to end one day. There's simply no reason to work purely for oneself,.

>>130427049
of course you *can* survive, but without a woman or kids, you're probably not going to want to. It's a ton of draining hard work, and what's the point in that case?

>>130429853
Yeah but he died though, so it doesn't really count

>>130436055
Jonne must know, finns are acustic and used to live alone in the forrest if needed

>„Als ich in Lappland gelebt habe, habe ich wirklich mitten im Wald gewohnt
>"When I lived in Lapland, I really lived in the middle of the forest

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonne_J%C3%A4rvel%C3%A4

Funny how the article is the longest in german compared to english and finnish

>>130427919
>russian family

Actually they were born even earlier. A russian tsar persecuted a religious christian sect of which the family was part of. A newly wed couple retreated into the Siberian wilderness because of the persecution. They lived for over 50 years in small hut and gave birth to 1 boy and 2 or 3 girls. The commies found the family in the '50s or '60s. The kids talked a slightly different kind of Russian and the son used to hunt for miles every day. Barefoot. Unfortunately after the commies found the family they got all kind of nasty diseases they weren't immunized against and only 1 daughter survived the encounter and stayed living in a new shack closer to a Siberian town all by herself. I think she even survived the SU. Will try to find a source.

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>>130436530
I've a hypothesis that Finnish hunter-gatherer tribes were smaller or less in contact with foreign tribes and our genetics make us less social. Don't know.

But living alone? No people lived completely alone in non-modern times. We need to return to tribes.

>>130437162
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-russian-family-was-cut-off-from-all-human-contact-unaware-of-world-war-ii-7354256/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lykov_family
good read honestly.

>>130437162
Excellent thanks for confirmation and correction. I recalled the story but forgot the details but always found it fascinating.

>>130427049
/ourtrapper/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igzklzQrRQA

>>130427049
There was that one guy who lived alone in the woods for decades and go arrested one day for breaking into a cabin to steal some books cause he loved reading.

You can absolutely survive alone.

>>130431922
I have not read either of those but I shall.

>>130432917
I know the rule now. Ty.

>>130433956
Circumstance, I believe. Tenzin Palmo spent 12 years in isolated buddhist retreat, and survived. I hear what you are saying, though.

>>130436055
This was the inspiration for my post.

>>130439005
Guy is a Canadian legend. Grandpa said more people were rooting for him than the RCMP at teh time.

>>130440816

That was burglary #1000 or so, according to him.

This guy is the only guy I know of.

http://www.hermitary.com/lore/selkirk.html