Benito Mussolini: Bad Guy?

>>130411837

He did 2 things that pissed off all the good things he did

> bound culturally Italy with Germany
> partecipated war

>>130411960
He didn't want to side with Germany I believe, I'm pretty sure the allies dissociated with him because muh fascism forcing him to side with Germany.

i would say really bad,everyone told him to leave hitler alone,even himself at the beginning.
something behind the scenes happened,so italy was (((occupied))) and in ruins and fascism ruined forever.
he was always a dickhead without any sense of honor.
fuck him,i wish we had a different duce,he should have just remained a journalist that helped the forming of fascism,not the central man.

>>130412150
Actually Uk stopped to sell coal to Italy after Ethiopia war (Uk wanted Ethiopia in its empire) so he had to take it from Germany.
Coal was the petroil of today.

>>130411837
As a rule of thumb, all fascists are worthless pieces of shit.

Sad how numale authoritarian bootlicking cucks resort to worshipping failed leaders in light of their disenfranchisement, instead of growing a pair

>>130412150
((they)) would have taken him out sooner or later

It's better to go out in a blaze of glory and heroism

Mussolini was a fucking based hero

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>>130412506
When is the last time that UK have did a colonization ?
If UK wanted Ethiopia, they have conquered this country, no ?
What is interesting about this country ?

>>130411837

>Was little old Benito a bad guy

You misspelled bald there, friend.

they would have*

>>130414438
i'm not sure that UK wanted Ethiopia,but for sure they didn't want Italy to take it,in fact they,russians and i think even frenchies armed ethiopians.
UK always hated us because of our position in the mediterranean sea.

>>130413964
I went. No one is there. Is this some sort of honeypot?

>>130411837

Memes aside, he had the right idea but executed it poorly. He should've waited a few months more before joining WWII

>>130411837
Good guy that sucked

>>130415182
More like 2 years

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>>130411837
So-so. Got better when he brought pic related on as his advisor though.

>>130412719
Mussolini created the Italian equivalent of the social security administration and the welfare state. I thought you'd love that type of shit

Western powers,especially Britain and (((Churchill))) were very fond of him when he was getting power, because he was an obstancle for communism takeover in europe.
Then when Italy took Abyssinia the Brits got mad cuz they wanted the land for their dominion so they got everyone in the League of Nations to sanction Italy (just like the merkel reich is doing now cuz italy doesnt want to bring niggers in).
Then war broke out and mussolini was probably killed so the contents of the letters between him and churchill wouldnt be made public.
He was on the wrong side of history

>>130412506
revisionism, UK allowed Italy to take Ethopia in exchange for Italy not siding with Germany

later Italy did anyway, reee

>>130416973
I'm a libertarian you autistic stormfag

>>130411837
shouldn't have enacted the 1938 race laws and fought with Germany but he strengthened the economy, Italian identity and what he did in Libya was pretty cool.

>>130411837
Statism is a cancer

>>130420851
>I'm a libertarian

Does that mean 'I'm a drug dealer' in Spiccanese?

Italian colonialism was retarded.

>>130411837
Ethiopia was a big fucking mistake, but when people talk about evil fascists they only mean Hitler.

You can't deny that the trains did run on time during Mussolini's reign.

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>>130411837
He was an autistic sperg that declared he would "break the back of Greece" fucked that up and then had to impose on the Germans to clean up his shit invasion that shouldn't have happened in the first place

ive never met an Italian who wasn't a coward
I wondered if it was their food being like snot that made them so weak.
They puff themselves up like little birds but have about as much heart when it comes to getting stuck in for a good fight.
Running away was their wartime speciality.
Was Benito a blow hard ? Come on... obviously

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>>130423396
Deutschland drags Italy into the Pact Of Steel
Mussolini:ok I've got your back bro just wait for 1942 before starting shit I'm industrializing Italy and reforming the Esercito
Hitler:ok but I want Sudetland
France and Britain:take it and it's war
Mussolini: let him have it
Hitler takes sudetlan
Mussolini: hey hitler that was close
>Hitler attacks Poland

Hitler fucked everything up

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>>130424089
Debateable and irrelevant to Mussolinis retarded invasion, the dumb shit was trying to impress Hitler, even thinking that he could finish the invasion of Greece within two weeks

Bottom line he was a shit ally and a liability

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>>130424585
Technically Germany broke the terms of the alliance first
They got what they deserved

>>130421780
>drug dealers want to legalize drugs
Stormnigger logic

>>130424585
Hitler started shit before Italy was ready stfu

>>130413964
>>130414931
i see the OP

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>>130424974
>>130425087
Sorry triggered spaghettifriend, but neither of those points make up for the retarded invasion of Greece

Also changing your flag doesn't change your ID

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>>130411837

>>130425468
I know, I just switched to pc
>retarded invasion of Greece
>wanna speak about Barbarossa or Dunkirk or Germany not being able to defeat Uk ?

>>130411837

>Socialist
>Hated the Cathocuck Church yet dindu nuffing
>Destroyed any semblance of competency and seniority the Italian army managed to gather by putting his lackeys as generals

>>130411837
Losing wars disqualifies you from being good for your country as a leader.

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Of course the Duce is great!

>>130425895
>getting rid of Cadorna tier generals
>a bad thing

>>130418975
Really ? That's interesting.
It is an officialy thing or a tacit thing ?

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>>130425890
>invade greece just to flex and be a little rebel
>fuck it up completely, run back to albania
>lots of greeks, italians and germans die because of a sperg with small man syndrome
>fast forward to 2017, triggered mussoliniboo compares fighting the UK or the Soviet Union to fighting Greece in the 40's
>b-but it's because we didn't have time to industrialize! "it's hitlers fault if italy sucked during WW2!"

Yeah okay

Mussolini fucked everything up by deciding to invade the balkans, totally fuck it up, requiring Hitler to divert troops to the balkans to help him out, and delaying Operation Barbarossa. Since Operation Barbarossa was delayed, Germany ended up invading the USSR behind schedule and pushing it into the winter time. Cold-as-fuck winter totally fucked them over and cost them the war.

>>130424270
confirmed hero then?

>>130426633
source image

>>130426653
Germany would have lost regardless of if they invaded the Soviet Union earlier.

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>>130426260

>Getting rid
Have you seen the invasion of greece, or pic related?

>>130426633
>Pact of steel explicitely states to avoid war prior to 1942
>Invades Poland in 1939 (but m-muh it was France who declared war on Germany)
>be mad because your ally (which has an agrarian state) sucks
>your ally still fights with you
>he even makes a civil war to keep fighting
>muh retarded mussolini italians are cowards

>>130411837
Mussolini was great. A bit incompetent but not bad. Won't stop (((them))) from shitting on his legacy.

>>130412719
>bootlicker
back to /leftypol/ you go

>>130428091
>keeps using the irrelevant pact of steel to explain why mussolini wasn't retarded for invading greece
>"hitler invaded poland in 1939, it broke the pact of steel that was supposed to avoid war prior to 1942, mussolini really didn't want war, so he invaded greece in 1940, cause that isn't retarded see?"

I never said Italians are cowards that was someone else, Mussolini was a dumb fuck, nothing against italians

also see >>130427917

inb4 we weren't industrialized

>>130423954
>ive never met an Italian who wasn't a coward
Italy is a nation with a (relatively) high sense of national pride. The Italians that left that nation to come to America, for the sake of some extra shekels, are (somewhat) cowards by definition. That is probably why most of of the Italians you met were cowards.