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Guys I need help

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Guys I am literally shaking right now. As you may know here in Italy there is currently a huge battle regarding the introduction or not of the Ius Soli, the right for children of foreign immigrants born in Italy, to be considered de facto italian citizens.
We were having our sunday lunch when my father(ignorant although very intelligent PD voter, 60 years old, extremely rich and therefore uninterested in traditional values), asks me about my opinion.
Although he knew I leaned to the right, I always hid my true power level, but since today, for the first time he asked me about my opinion, we started having a discussion, which went on like this:
>he tells his brainwashed ideas
>I drop redpills
>he tries to answer
>I drop redpill upon redpill upon redpill, infographics, scientific papers, videos that show how cnn forged news, how jews control the media, how soros manipulated italian prime minister ecc. ecc.
>every time he becomes more and more shocked almost as he couldn't believe what I showed him
>eventually I de facto win the argument, he can't answer and he even admits regarding some things he is shocked and he will look more into it.
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>>130401092
This discussion went on for 2 hours straight after lunch, just me and him talking, until he stands up and goes away like he has seen a ghost, he cannot believe all that.
I am shaking too, even right now, fuck guys, every time he tried to answer, I showed him documents, source, I literally debunked and destroyed every one of his arguments, I feel so empowered right now. I redpilled my father.
But here's where I need your help, he will probably try to crawl back into his bluepilled state of mind or deny what he learned today, I need every spicy infographic, every informational graph, everything to help me finalize his travel to the truth. I need those diagrams that show how niggers are more stupid than whites, how races exist and there is a difference among european people, everything.

Please help me pol, I can redpill my father, today showed that it is possible, heck I'll even try with normies in the future, but I need this material, reliable scientific material to back my claims.
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Kill your father
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>>130401769
He is very intelligent, two college degrees, germanic descent, coming from a former noble family in the kingdom of italy, former estimeed lawyer.

His only problem is that he reads newspaper and watches tv, considering both reliable sources of information. He has no fault if he is brainwashed and knows no better. If I redpill him it would be one the best things I have done in my life, every redpilled man is another ally in our fight!
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>>130401092
At least there's sense in talking to him about it, I tell my dad what's really going on in the world and he just goes "Oh, really" then starts talking about stupid shit
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>>130402337
We never "really" talked about this before, he is not the kind of person who would deny something that is objectively proven to him as true.
The problem is that by talking to him what he said had no logical fallacy, it all made sense, if it was not for the fact that all the information he used was wrong, every time so I had to show him from reliable sources that instead they were lies, which most of the times left him speechless and shocked, he had no idea. Only I couldn't show him sources regarding niggers, race, jews ecc. since it is impossible to look for them on the internet, they are always censored.
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>>130402153
>germanic descent
code word for racemixed abomination
kill yourself
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>>130401092
it's very simple. STOP GIVING ATTENTION TO THE POPE. You are CHRISTIAN not a POPIST
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>>130402337
The problem with our fathers is also that they are completely uninterested, even if they know all this they prefer to close their hears because they don't want to deal with it, and they know they'll long be dead before the shit really hits the fan. They only care about their personal economical wealth, without any kind of love for their country, they're practically merchants.
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Normies derive their opinions from groups they identify and associate with. It's a lifestyle decision based on your socio-economic status. Of course we work alike.
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>>130402153
>germanic descent,
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>>130401092
Conmect daily happenings to redpills and how it affects you
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>>130401092
No wait, your FATHER is ok with this? What a fucking cuck. But anyway, alot of italians don't want this to pass, I have faith in my country.
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>>130401092
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>>130401092

Sull'Ue
>Luciano Barra Caracciolo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs0xCj25We0

Sull'Ue e sull'economia
>Alberto Bagnai
Vai sul suo blog "goofynomics" -> per cominciare

Sull'unificazione tedesca
>Vladimiro Giacché
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>>130402796
I also redpilled him on the pope, showing him on wikileaks how it was elected through lobbyism because the former pope didn't fit their political agenda through immigration. I told him my pope is Benedict XVI and not Francis I.
>>130402717
Germanic descent from father's side and mother's british. Got blonde/reddish hair , green eyes and milk white skin with some freckles. I'm more aryan than you Luigi. And besides, we europeans should stand together you faggot as long as we are white, by pushing this agenda that we cannot cooperate and should shun each other you help the jews dividing and conquer us.
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>>130401092
And he even votes PD, who the fuck votes PD today? Whan an extreme cuck.
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>>130401092
If he speaks English, just show him Jared Taylor videos.
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>tfw i was redpilled by my own father before even coming here
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>>130403286
>germanic descent
>british mother
Are you sure you're not a nordcuck LARPing as an italian?
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>>130403110
He bought every piece of the leftist propaganda, he reads repubblica. Combine this with the indifference he has towards his country, his undecent level of wealth, which means he doesn't have to work and will never see a nigger in his life.He lives in a 3 floors house in the countryside going around in mercedes with his rich 60/70 years old friends and you have a PD voter.
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>>130403584
Typical rich guy, uh?
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Parla di come i comunisti sudafricani stanno portando avanti una battaglia razziale, ed incoraggiano il saccheggio delle proprietà dei bianchi e l'uccisione degli stessi.
Se googli in inglese trovi qualcosa
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dont do it marioniggers

we lost the race in a short 20 years with these antiwhite policies.
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>>130401092
Get a refugee girl pregnant. If he lives in his dream castle with all his wealth, basically settled for life, and in a reality with no evident redpills, you must poison his water. He can always shove away factual redpills, but he can only go delusional and schizophrenic to avoid them if you fill up a refugee with your juice.
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>>130403286
Buongiorno fratello. Puoi guardarmi che hai detto del papa?

Anyone have dirt on the Pope they can share?

In bocca di lupo con tuo padre
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>>130403775
Plus you get a free mulatto.
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>>130403711
It will never happen, it caused alot of outrage in the country. If it was a country like Sweden, they would be all happy.

>>130403775
>racemixing cuck
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>>130403527
Listen mate, you can hate how much you like on natives europeans. But remember you are playing the jews game. I am a mix between german and anglo blood, probably even italian even though I don't look like one. Want to hate me for that Luigi? Go on, play their game making it easier to destroy europe.
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>>130403855
fuck off larping faggot
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>>130403526
Eastern men tend to be more redpilled than your avarage eurofag
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>>130401092
Is Sofia Cucci a national hero in Italy?
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Hey OP, any chance you go to Bocconi
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"In questo blog abbiamo definito il nostro interlocutore standard "piddino", dando al termine una valenza antropologica mutuata dalla filosofia classica e non necessariamente connessa a una appartenenza partitica. Il piddino è il personaggio antisocratico che sa di sapere, il discepolo di Etarcos, insomma. L'insopportabile saccenza di questi mentecatti, il loro fascismo intrinseco, che poi è il fascismo dell'opinione, nel quale si materializza la più insidiosa e lurida delle ingiustizie, quella che consiste nel trattare fattispecie diverse [un sapiente e un imbecille] in modo uguale, ci ha certo infastidito, ma non abbiamo potuto trattenerci dal provare un moto di umana pietà verso queste pecore condotte al macello dai loro pastori tedeschi. Quelli di voi che appartenevano a questa massa di ignavi ci hanno più volte descritto quali meccanismi psicologici offuscassero la loro percezione. La protervia del piddino, lo si intuisce, quando non è l'ottusità dello stolto, che se ne batte completamente delle sofferenze altrui, è la rimozione del debole, che difende se stesso dalla più dolorosa delle esperienze: la conoscenza, cioè l'assassinio del proprio io ignorante, a beneficio di un io certo migliore, ma forse meno attrezzato ad affrontare l'esistenza, proprio perché il salto quantico verso un'orbita di maggiore consapevolezza lo mette di fronte a una realtà più complessa, nella quale i punti di riferimento abituali - i media, l'appartenenza - sono saltati, e anzi diventano un ulteriore, colossale problema."
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>>130403775
>>130403859
You disgust me...
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>>130401109
Here you have a Norwegian funny documentary that shows how much of our results in life are conditioned by our genes and not by our feelings but we are always manipulated in thinking the opposite, it is called Hjernevask - Brainwashing :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVaTc15plVs&t=1s

It is good for normies because the comedian who runs the documentary is likeable and not a neonazi. If he has academic education he will enjoy it.
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I wish my family could be redpilled, everytime i bring up facts or statistics they just call them wrong or accuse them of being biased, really fucking annoying
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>>130403944
Destroy NORTH Europe, we are doing fine without you guys, and not suprising that you're the ones who voted PD, you northern europeans are always a bunch of cucks who vote for the shills who destroy the same society you claim to defend. You are not italian, go back to Germany or UK, we don't want betas like you.
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>>130403892
Says an italian of 'mixed' descent. Find a good looking syrian and it's an uplift for your lineage.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn4LaowsGiA&index=10&list=PLMNj_r5bccUyYzJ5G1GgvfM59JEpDkteX

Sorry, I can't pinpoint the moment it's discussed, as need to go to bed in a few minutes, but in this video the host discusses iq in general with someone with reliable credentials.

In it, if my memory is accurate, race and iq is discussed, along with the implications of high and low iq. If you needed more material to redpill your father on demographics, this is crucial.

ALSO, this video is particularly hard to attack with fallacies as:

- guest has reliable credentials, and
- isn't white

If you want more data, Molyneux's other content should provide you with his sources.
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>>130403775
Funny but I won't touch no nigress
>>130403655
That was one of the redpills I dropped with sources, what I am looking for are those that show genetics groups, proofs that races exist and they have a significant impact on behaviour and intelligence, impossible to find except on /pol since they get censored.
>>130403630
Unfortunately, 70% of the PD voters are over 50, they don't give a fuck in 50 years there will be only niggers here, and they also only care in mantaining the wealth they built in their once perfect white country.
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>>130404229
Yeah but I prefer blondies.
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>>130401092
>>130401109
be happy that he accepted what you told him even if its just temporary

my parents just go into full denial mode when i debuke any of their lefty trash arguments
they literally just say "no"

be happy that your father is open for dicussion even if he doesnt go right right away
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>>130404293
Yeah I know, typical.
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Someone share dirt on the Pope

Also - Italians don't give a shit about their country, just family and their home region
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*as I need to go
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>>130404293

Talking about race itself it's too much (he will close himself like a turtle).
Don't question the race, talk about culture and what can do so many people with that kind of culture in our territory.
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>>130404068
LUISS , you Bocconi, I hate Milan it is 100 times more cucked than Rome, my university is somewhat Ok, plenty of shills and napoletanis, but the native romans are 90% of the times redpilled and no one votes PD.
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>>130403584
fake photos of refugees drowning
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>>130404124
:-)
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>>130403959
it's true, but each year we're getting more and more of liberal cucklture coming from the west which is highly appealing to the people in my country since being 'narrowminded' and 'nationalistic' isn't 'cool' anymore.
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>>130403944
muslim invasion
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>>130404496

Well I'm not Italian, just studying here. From the US though. Yeah, can't say I love the Italian mindset as it's impossible to start a business here or do anything or merit. But it's nice for a few years.

Lol fuck you guys sending all the rapefugees up north in my direction, I've already been in knife fights
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Show him Jared Taylor vids on race question, they are literally the best and are packed with statstics. Or if he's more of a book guy download
"The color of crime" also by Jared Taylor going through race and crime statistics very thoroughly.

Also An Empire Of Dust, or just this clip of it which is the most important:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUAnSKG2ML4

also on Rhodesia, liberalism and consequences of jewish media influence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOMcfhK2_Lw
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>>130402153
> kingdom of italy
which borders with hyrule to the north, gondor to the south
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>>130404293
stats on islam
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you can find on youtube "empire of dust" a good documentary that talk about some chineses that try to build infrastructures in africa.
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>>130401109
This is what the redpill is, its a system shock, you did good, keep it up until hes in total agreeance with your
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>>130404590
Roma is a shithole, it takes all of the dirt from our country.
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>>130404577
You need a recession and some civil unrest.
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>>130404496
Speaking of which - you probably know with the rich dad and all - what's the best way to start a biz within the EU? I've heard good things about Estonia.

I've got a killer biz back in the US I want to export to here as well.
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>>130401092
Guiz, my papa was dinner have over here

>He wanted democracy
>I shoved illuminate
>Either he accepts me as palpatine \ he drops me down to the fuin reactor

what do
Also frog
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>>130404668
It's milanesis fault, here in Rome we throw bananas at niggers and when they pass on the street we make monkey noises. It's only obvious they come to the cucked Milan since there girls are "international" and they are more than willing to open their legs while their cucked boyfriends watch.
>>130404577
wich is why we must redpill as many people as we can here in the west, with good scientfic material.
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>>130401092
>very intelligent PD voter
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>>130404994
Milan is the Sweden of Italy. But you romans aren't innocent either, you're full of gypsies.
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the last time I had a political discussion with my father we had a fist fight on the street and were separated by the police
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>be a man
>agree with immigration
Who even does this?
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And about soros you can easily find about how Open Society own Lampedusa (and exmayor Nicolini that burned tons of document in last days, heroine of pd).
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>>130405037
Ignorance is not exclusive to idiots
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>>130404913
Father was a lawyer so I don't really know. As a university student though with friends with rich papas, I can tell stay away from italy and france as much as you can, taxes are at an all time high, bureacracy is the slowest of the whole continent. I heard good things for Ireland, they have good incentives for foreign enterprices, don't know for eastern europe.
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>>130401092
as an american ex-pat with a child born outside the US you can suck me with your crying.....

don't like niggers, do somehting about your gov and the eu.
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>>130404496
more on islamic attacks
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>>130405110
yeah but you can't kill gypsies legal (yet) so what can you do about them?
Meanwhile Milanese girls open their legs willingly to Muhhamads and Aziz
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>>130401109
>>130401092
Can you upload everything that you used and put in a zip? I could use this aswell
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>>130405378
True.
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>>130405340
Hey patriot, I'm planning on moving to Paris once my biz takes off. How are things for Americans over the in France? You like it? They treat you well?
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>>130404751
Tell me more of this Gondor. What kind of people live there? Are they peaceful elfkind?
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>>130405356
Are there any leaked INT dossiers supporting redpills?
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>>130405489
>I'm planning on moving to Paris once my biz takes off.
literally why
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Most redpilled "left-wing hero" was Sartori.
He will redpill him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuwU4aen92I
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>>130401092
are you telling me people born in Italy cannot be automatically considered italians?

It is funny to hear that since all I need to be considered italian is a 170 years old baptism certificate
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>>130405489
>I'm moving to Paris
What are you, retarded?
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>>130405136
>>130404759
That's the kind of shit I was talking about, thanks guys keep dumping
>>130405110
We hate gyspies with a passion here. Cannot do much since our government is cucked but rest assured they have no easy lives here. The only reason why they are still alive is tourists they scam, or they make them feel bad forcing them to give money.
Much of the crime in the city is their fault, but again, you'll find no sympathies for them.
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>>130404668
euroshekels
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>nobody posts shit

Pathetic
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Also, look up Color of Crime 2005 and 2016 editions
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>>130405489
whoa wait, ain't you complaining about jus soli?

yeah France is nice, don't know if i'd live in paris though
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>>130401092
>Being italian
>Not being by default an ethno-nationalist or ethno-regionalist
??????????????????????????????????

Are you a g*rman or some mixed mongrel?
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>>130405800
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>>130405871
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>>130405706
Not unless you come from Italian blood.
It's called Ius Sanguinis
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>>130405603
>>130405717

Planning on picking up a €2.6mil or so place in the 7th and living the Parisian lifestyle of the 1920s (doable with money and a driver)
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>>130405924
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>>130401092
I can only imagine the amount of porco dio during the argument
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>>130401092
>>130401109
Didn't need to go that far, personally all I did was pointing out the Ius Soli was a terrible idea because it would push pregnant women and families with newborn babies to make the trip.
Plus there are desperate and unscrupulous people that can and will rape and force marriage on every woman they can find, and possibly even kill the husband to take his place, just to have a chance at that free nationality.
Of course you can make a hell of a lot more arguments, but when talking to the virtuous leftist you have to lower yourself to make the same kind of emotional arguments, giving them data and rationale will only make them confused and angry.
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>>130405932
good luck with that

but I'll drive your ass around for the right price
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Affirmative Action kills
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>>130405953
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>>130403855
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>>130401092

Try this Jared Taylor interview on white identity for starters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6GA4dMZw4
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>>130401092
Sorry Mussolini failed. Here we have official genderless IDs and Hawaii is passing bills for everyone in the state to be on welfare by default. All Europeans are under attack.
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>>130406065
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>>130401092

GREAT JOB, ITALIA!!

THIS BURGER CONGRATULATES YOU ON REDPILLING THE OLD MAN...AND HAPPY DAD'S DAY!!
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>>130405994
if he's from veneto the amount could have sustained the world's energy need for decades
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bumperino
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>>130406117
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>>130406207
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>>130401092
>sunday lunch

CAN I GET A BIBBITY BOBBITY
your dad might break your knees tho
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>>130406045
Where are you in France
What are you up to out there
Good to have some contacts and allies
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>>130406259
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>>130401109
That is a mighty achievement, anon. However, you might want to consider backing off and just let the pills work. His mind will try to get back to blue state, but he will struggle with the new knowledge and try to dismiss it etc. Also, he'll come to you seeking reassurance in the process of dismissing it, and then you might give him more evidence if he is a little intrigued, or if he wants to go back to blue state, just sit back and be like "I showed you how it works, if you want to ignore or rationalize that information, go ahead."

He'll be on his own and chances are he can't just dismiss everything you told him. And eventually he'll be coming back saying something like "okay, son. you got the knowledge, I got the money. let's redpill every one of my rich ass friends and fund the aryan army needed to win this race war DEUS VULT"
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>>130401109
Redpill overdose. Too much at once.
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>>130406136
dumb burger jus soli is bascially the only path to US citizenship and there is fighting anytime some one tries to be Pres and does not have this citizenship "natural born"
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Get working /pol/, post those infographics and sheets 'n shit. We have a man to redpill. The cause is worthy.
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>>130405706
Yes, that's Ius sanguinis, right of blood, it means if you are a descendant everything is easy for you. Every european country is based on that. Quite different from being a nigger from namibia and giving birth to a little shit as soon as you get out of your boat legally calling him "Italian".
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>>130405800
This infographic took me from Zero to RAYCISS in under 6 seconds
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>>130406289
i do research at the uni, pay is shit though but it's chill as fuck

i'm closeto germany
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>>130403526
>tfw I sent this to my dad for father's day
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Hey op, how prevelant is the mafia. If I understand the situation right they basically run he whole show right?
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>>130401092
They are not thinking about removing ius sanguinis right? I plan to adquire citizenship through ancestry.
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>>130406507
What kind of research bud
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>>130406148
as a venetian baited to the third world like a blind dog, I must agree.
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>>130403286
>I also redpilled him on the pope, showing him on wikileaks how it was elected through lobbyism because the former pope didn't fit their political agenda through immigration

never heard of this. Need sauce immediately!!!
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>>130406377

So, which dindu country from Africa is invading Italy in the heaviest numbers right now?
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Show him how the mob works with Soros NGO's to illegally traffick in third world shitters for divide and conquer as well as power consolidation. Politicians import millions of new voters for themselves who then terrorize Europe while 50% of the population who has a sense of self preservation fights the other 50% who are ignorant nihilists.


There's even an article recently that was written about how the NGO's were going to be investigated for human trafficking until Soros made a surprise visit to Italy immediately to talk them out of it. Webm related.

Also, over half the people flooding into Europe are illiterate inbreds. Not just insulting them because it's actually true. Over 50% of the middle east is inbred and has been doing so for 1400 years. Their genetics are virtually beyond repair. The inbreeding leads to subpar IQ and uncontrollable, irrational rage which makes them perfect candidates for radicalization especially when they follow the most militant religion in existence that refuses to modernize and they grow up in the third world. Birth defects are also skyrocketing in Europe along with violent crime, terror attacks, rape, assaults etc.
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>>130401092
>Displayed true power level to normie

Hope you haven't just been disowned by your father. Many such cases. Sad.
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>>130401092
>De facto citizens
That wouldn't mean shit. Citizenship only matters if they're De Jure citizens

>De Facto won the argument
I don't think you know how to use that phrase
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>>130406593
mostly neuroscience
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>>130405721
nobel peace prize winner
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>>130406894
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>>130406305
This. He'll digest it on its own. There will be some back and forth but you planted the seed. Don't take signs of confusion as as reversion, just the metamorphoses
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>>130405994
I am a fervent catholic ( before you say anything I hat francis, I consider my real pope benedict), he is an atheist but he avoids PDing when I am around. Still we didn't fight, it was rather a productive and eye opening discussion.
>>130406157
Oh yea thanks a lot m8, this was one I was specifically searching for!
>>130406304
Another definetly good one!
>>130406305
Thanks, gotta have material for the future though. What you said is actually what I somewhat hope for, everyone of his rich friends is like him and he is very politicized, if I redpill him he might drop repills on them too. Every new redpilled man is a new ally in our struggle.
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>>130405721
irrational nonsense
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>>130401092
You did us proud.

I'm certain after all of that red pilling you did he won't be able to just blue pill himself. The seeds have been planted. Still, reinforcement is still good when applied correctly - red pilling takes time.

Don't go too ham, don't want to push anyone away from too much eagerness.
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>>130406875
Doesn't it suck to sit in a stuffy office all day? Why don't you start your own biz at this point?

Sell anything and in the tag like write developed by leading neurologist, lol
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>>130406065
>dircet
Pure white Euromutt reporting in. Protip: You're all celtic. No exceptions.
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>>130405721
on shithead Mohammed
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>>130406973
>I am a fervent catholic ( before you say anything I hat francis, I consider my real pope benedict)
Me too. But it ain't easy to let go of bestemme, especially when you're pissed off.
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>>130407256
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>>130406533
In south only, center it's a little shady but they certainly don't run the show for private businesses.
North you're good to go.
>>130406555
Far right could realistically win next year, who knows how much 5 years of cucked government could backlash regarding citizenship?
>>130406695
>http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/2714-the-pope-s-boss-wikileaks-pope-and-soros-an-unholy-alliance
not a real source but start from here
>>130406867
In italian is not only a juridical term, it is used in colloquial conversations, I was not referring to the legal connotation.
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I have a question italianbros

Is there any italian website similar to /pol/? I mean, discussion forums about inmigration, SJW, race...

Where do you talk (in italian) about these things on the Internet?

In Spain we have
>forocoches (+600.000 users)
>burbuja.info
>disidencia
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>>130407048
don't have the right to start a business in france m8

and i'm lazy as fuck which is why i do "science" here and not in the US so I sit at home most days and play with my son
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>coming to this thread
>name milan
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>>130403584
Bro, most importantly you have to make him stop reading La Repubblica or all our efforts will be vain
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>>130401109
>until he stands up and goes away like he has seen a ghost, he cannot believe all that.
No, he probably cannot believe that as a wealthy, educated, decent man who provided for all of your needs your entire life that you could have turned out to be a gibbering, fascist piece of dog shit.

He's either considering killing you, himself, or both. Congrats on destroying that relationship. Who's next? Nana?
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>>130404577
Isn't Croatia like the California of slav lands?
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>>130401092
Can you package and share your collection?
Seems like you have a good one.
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>>130407741
If by nana you mean grandmother, she was present at the discussion backing me up on everything I said. Good ol'fascist lady she knows what's up and how we were better with Benito.
Don't think father thought those things, while we were discussing he looked very appaled, as he somewhat agreed but could not drop all his previous ideas and what he thought was true.
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>>130401092
lol my father redpilled himself by watching memeneux and shit on youtube, I don't know how he came by it I didn't help
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>>130408136
only things I had found researching quickly, look at the thread, things posted are 10 times more spicy and reliable.
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>>130407428
>North you're good to go.
Mafias launder their money up north, you won't have as much urban degradation as in the south, and the economy is better, BUT the upper class is 100% mixed with organized crime.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og
this is a really fucking good one.
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>>130406794
Read the whole thing. As a south african, I can attest to this being true. Blacks hate us, but blacks also know they are inferior and need us. It drives them insane.
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>>130401092
He's going to have an overdose Calzonanon. Be careful with that much redpilling at once.
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>>130408364
Because everyone who makes money gets threatened and implicated by the mob, or the only way to make a lot of money is through the mob?
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>>130408759
Stay strong south african brothers. I know things are tough down there but we wish you to prevail. If anything good may come out of this is that it will make you understand what happens when you free niggers.
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>>130401092

sounds like daddy is disappointed.
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>>130401109
>I showed him documents, source

>"source"

You're just one of those people that nobody can argue with because they have infographics about everything, you just bombed him with information that you yourself did not collect - information that was given to you, and without checking most of it you assume it to be true.

and then you "drop redpills" on your own father, he walked out because he was disappointed.

Learn how to talk to your old man without that shit, just talk.
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>>130409037
kek this is true.

Another anecdotal story I can add to this is that niggers don't encourage success amongst each other. I worked in a liquor store for a while, and many of my colleagues happened to be black. One of my colleagues was a black kid, still in high school, who would come do some manual labour work after school for pocket money.

Everyone there knows they are going to work for minimum wage their whole lives, they have no aspirations for the future. This kid however, one day let's it slip that he wants to become a lawyer after school.

Everyone bursts out in laughter and mocks him, tells him he's fucking nuts. With friends like these...
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>>130405136
More sources about the ties between Soros and Lampedusa?
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>>130401109
Now that's how you drop red-pills!
Keep it going anon, and try to improve your self-confidence in speaking to others to deliver the Truth more precisely.
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>>130409479
That flag......
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>>130404293
Look up this article and show it to him. The term "race" is legitimate, niggers are a different subspecies
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>>130401092
You can't just give a guy all the redpills at once like that desu.
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>>130409556
second that, also something about colonies and india? showing how we didn't steal wealth but instead created it only to be destructed by them?
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>>130409785
I mean that should have been obvious but liberals are retarded.
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>>130409758
>That flag......

Could have easily changed it. This proves my point.
Maybe I should head out to my grandfather and drop inforgaphic redpills about the holohoax, this will make him proud.
basically zero family values or after thought... as long as you can post edgy shit on 4chan, it's not about being right it's about being decent.
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>>130404126
Hjernevask is fucking great.
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>>130401092
We have the same law in France since the 70's I think.
It's a fucking disaster !!
Consider that :
Huge construction companies want cheap labor so they pushed the French gov to allow a shit load of North Africans (Algerian, Tunisian, etc...). But to make sure that they will come, they passed this crazy law saying that if you are born in France, no matter who your parents are, you are French !
But WAIT !!! It gets better !
We then in the 80's passed a law literally called "family regroupment" that allow any direct family member to stay legally in France !
Can you imagine ?!
You get filthy 40years old Mohamed to work construction (which he will do badly and for less than French people creating massive unemployment) and on top of that you have to cater to every fucking needs of his wife and 8 children who don't and will not work !
So on one side of the scale you get the taxes on 1 miserable salary (nothing) and on the other side you get fucking 9 mouths to feed, educate, give healthcare to, etc....
It's just planed destruction of social services and national integrity.
Stay strong my italian friend. The worst is yet to come !
Forza !
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>>130410529
A kike talking about decency to a european , lol.
How many palestinian kids have you killed today abraham?
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>>130410771
Chances are it won't pass, 90% of the population is against, they don't have the numbers in the senate so they would need to force it through a process called "fiducia" to bypass opposition. But even if they would our right parties are already preparing a procedure gathering 500.000 firms, which would invalidate the law and call for a popular vote, where since practically everyone is against then it would be repealed.
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>>130411281
Godspeed Mario. One law might not look like much, but this one is HUGE; you're buying years or even decades if you stop it.
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>>130410907
Is this the stupidest infographics of all time.

>32% of Turkish Muslims beleive that honor killings can be jsutified.
So, the majority believe they CAN'T be jsutified then. Wow. And You're talking about one muslim nation, not even a big one like Pakistan or Indonesia.
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>>130411612
32% of millions of people is still a fucking lot of people, dumbass!
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>>130408988
It's not the only way, but it's the easiest way to go from a small business to a bigger operation.
Those that don't want to play ball have to compete with those that do, and most eventually fail.
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>>130411576
We know but it's out of our hands... it all depends on our political parties who are bravely trying in any way possible to block or void the law.
I am optimystical. The worse thing though is that they are doing this because they have lost huge consensus in the last years(see pic), to the point where they risk losing the elections, so they're trying to gain 600.000 votes right off the bat by making immigrants magically italian rady to vote for them. We only have to resist until the elections next year
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>>130412099
still believing you're a democracy when in the EU... sad
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>>130401109
Just say that in Brazil, US and France we have Jus Soli. Then invites him to pass some days in Paris banlieue - or do the path Central Station-Vieux Port in Marseille on foot as I did. It will be enough.
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>>130404590
they're all mooning Europe. I'm I the only one who's getting this?
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>>130403528
"People who want to redistribute wealth often misunderstand the nature and causes of wealth. Tangible wealth can be confiscated, but you cannot confiscate the knowledge which produced that wealth. Countries that confiscated the wealth of some groups and expelled them, destitute, have often seen the economy collapse, while the expelled people became prosperous again elsewhere." - Thomas Sowell

It's not about black or white it's about the stupid mentality of wealth redistribution. This fucktard just did it along the lines of race
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>>130411281
Wish you the best. Hope your leaders aren't as (((morally))) corrupt as ours.
Good luck !
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>>130403775
>dat flag
What a surprise a mercuck would think that this was a valid solution
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>>130412099
Right now only the PD wants the Ius Soli.
They'll get more votes from the immigrants - but this isn't America, we have voter IDs, only the relatively few legal immigrants can vote - at the cost of driving even more voters to M5S.
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>>130401092
great, the more this shit became common-knowledge, the better.
try to red-pill as much people you can.
push on the: j3ws, ethnic sostitution, the final objective is to make them understand hitler was right.
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>>130412388
The propaganda is real, just as much as the people buying it, but during the last years Italy has been waking up, just look at the december referendum, it lead to the end of our cucked premier and stopped a law that would have made them absolute rulers on the country.
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>>130401109
And why can't you just import skilled Italian descendents from Latin America? Cultural issues and language barrier are not a big issue.
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>>130402717
ahahaha
totally this, my roman friend.
pura razza italiana ad vitam .AVE
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It's not strictly about race, but you can find a lot of information about the corruption and jewness of elites among others news (even more so if you're catholic)
that is, if you already don't know the sites:
Maurizio blondet.it
Rischio calcolato.it
Maurizio Blondet is the most redpilled journalists in italy, and among the firsts in the world i'd dare to say and (((they))) are onto him if you read the reports from osservatorio antisemitismo
On the other site you can find other interesting articles and economic info, even if they are to much onthe digital currencies boat for what i care
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>>130412784
If they force it, they lose much more italian voters than they would gain through immigrants. Every party knows that if they back up the Ius Soli now and it passes it is a political suicide, they lose a huge number of votes enraged with them.
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>>130405120
typical nigger attitude
you have to go back
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>>130403286
>Germanic descent from father's side and mother's british. Got blonde/reddish hair , green eyes and milk white skin with some freckles. I'm more aryan than you Luigi.

and are you proud to be racemixed with barbarian germanic scum? you are literally a fake italian, you blonde/red haired faggot.
italians are not "aryians" lol, we are mediterranean romans.
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>>130401109
Go to him shining and looking like a savior and say (anon please use a manly voice):
Father are you ok? are you ready to join me and prevent the fall of our culture, our nation and our raviolis? because its time for men to act against our true opressors.
Let him listen "il gladiatore" from Pavarotti
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>>130412877
look at greece
look at the irish anti eu referendum
look at the possible sanctions against hungary and poland
look at austria and the post ballot BS when they voted in a right wing president
look italy has the Euro but were a "democracy" pleas m8 the is no democracy left on the planet with perhaps the exception of Switzerland and Iceland
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>>130401092
>Guys I need help
What with ?
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>>130412966
1) Latin Americans are not skilled, you don't have even enough graduates for yourselves
2) If Italian descendants wanted to come back, they would have already
3) We have no need to hire foreign workers, Italian unemployment is already >12%
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>>130403527
totally this.
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>>130401092

well i can tell from your stories he loves you, thinks you're a fucking idiot and doesn't want to hurt your feelings. You can't change a mans mind. he either is or isn't
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>>130401092
I think he was more shocked at your level of awareness and knowledge than anything else...stay awake anon ,stay awake.
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>>130404209
SPQR ROMA AETERNA LEGIONARIO
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Holy fuck, I'd be ashamed if you were my son.

Instead of living your life, just trying to hustle and fuck some bitches (there is no other point in life), you choose to waste away your energy and youth on this moronic board, appealing to approval of sweaty fat losers you wouldn't ever wanna be associated irl with. Obsessed with "muh red pills", "muh truth", "muh evul world controled by jews".

My god man, wtf are you doing with your life? Sersiously?
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>>130411335
DELETE THIS
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>>130401092
Here is some stuff on jews.
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>>130402153
>His only problem is that he reads newspaper and watches tv, considering both reliable sources of information.
This is what amazes me with educated people, you go through uni and learn to think critically, verify sources all that shit.

But...

Then they just go home, sit infront of the propaganda apparatus and read the papers, and swallow it as if it was the truth sent from the Gods them selves. This is extremely alarming.

I do this to many of my relative too, I never force it on them, never do that. When discussing something and the op turns up, I drop them, and they go... w.... what?

It's like I crack up a prison around their head, people are luckily not that brainwashed here as in the worst countries.
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>>130409299
Can we make a calendar out of these?
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>>130413794
56%
>>130413377
>>130413075
see >>130403944
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>>130401092
>>130401109
>>130402153

just gift him The Bell Curve and UN's demographic estimates for 2050
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>>130401092
god speed anon. do everything you can to save your country and europe. we are all counting on you.
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>>130401092
Proud of you anon.
Deus vult.
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>>130413622
>Latin America doesn't have enough graduates

Our system is different here, undergraduate degrees in science and engineering take longer and fully prepare people for the workforce, only those who want to go into research get masters/doctorates
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>>130407487
Diochan
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We have that in America. It's a central, vital part of out culture as a melting pot.
The simple fact is that you have a 0.8 birth rate and need the vitality and youth of immigrants to be the New Italians or your culture will die.
I suggest looking at our culture and how we integrate others as a roadmap to the future "melting pot" Europe will be
Most vital us understanding that part of your culture must meld with theirs meaning you will change a little too as you welcome the new Italians to ypur shores. Teach them civic virtues and adapt to them as well.
Good luck, globalism and integration are the only way
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>>130401092
You've done the hardest part tbqh. Holding your frame and composure in full power level mode (jews and Soros for Christ's sake) vs your own father is one of the hardest tests there is. If he couldn't rebuke immediately or dismiss it you've got one foot in the door.
You're his goddamn son. If you seriously believe in what you say he will take you seriously, if he's honest about his lack of in-depth interest in the topic.

Just stick to your guns. Ask around for specifics. But I'm positive you've done the hardest.

I wish I'd find the balls to do the same to my father. But unlike yours, he is EXTREMELY well connected politically and has mainstream opinions. My assessment is that I'd lose the fight and precious credibility as he'd dismiss most of my truth bombs as fake-news-mongering. Still haven't figured out a way of piercing the defense short of a sterile clash.
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>>130416061
>america
>culture
pick one 56%
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>>130416365
Reliable, verifiable sources and infographics were what allowed me to have the edge in this. He cannot fight facts anon, drop them, you'll feel nervous, you'll shake, but fighting for what is right gives this effects
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>>130416477
Why would I care about race? Race is meaningless only civic virtues matter.
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>>130401092
The whole country of South Africa is a great redpill friendo.
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>>130416930
Race is intrensically tied with cultural,civic, religious and personal values. I know you cannot understand this, since you live in the US and culture and historical belonging does not exist there, but in europe personal heritage matters as it is what defines you as an individual, and children of african immigrants raised in african families with african values and african language shall never be italian, or european citizens for what matters.
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>>130417215
then you meed to do away with all that and forge a culture like America based on.civic virtues that looks ahead not behind. Tradition and all that are meaningless
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>>130401109
SAVE YOUR FATHER

CLEAN YOUR ROOM

SORT YOURSELF OUT
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>>130417440
OK m8, build your country in america with those ideas and see where it leads you. We in europe will try to save what we love and made us great in the past in the meantime
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>>130408024
there's no such slavic country that would be even remotely comparable to that thing
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>>130404954
wot
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Tryied to redpill my father. He's very intelligent, I'd say 130+ iq, got a phd in an Ivy League, etc.

All I got was: "you're a fascist get out of my house".
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>>130417735
You have a flat birth rate and your culture is dying.
You need people.but wont breed
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>>130401109
dumping races scientific findings
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>>130403286
fucks the obsession with being aryan? too much /pol/ for you young man..
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>>130419504
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>>130417215
They won't be african.children raised in Africa. If you give them citizenship and integrate them they will be Italian children with Italian virtues.
Regardless your low birth rates mean inside of 20 years you won't physically be able to stop them because you will lack the manpower.
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>>130419611
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>>130419655
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>>130419800
holy shit 3rd rubadubdub
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>>130419993
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>>130420044
double dub wtf
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They say if you stand in front of a mirror and say "6 million" three times Anne Frank will appear and not die in a gas chamber
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>>130417440
>Tradition and all that are meaningless

You have to go back, nigger.
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>>130414339
>hustle and fuck some bitches (there is no other point in life)

You are pathetic. Keep telling yourself there is no point in life so you can feel better about being human trash
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The north of italy is too cucked, its time we just cut it off and give it away to germany. The real italia starts at rome and then south. One minute these faggot polenta eaters want to be austrian, then french, then swiss.....fuck em.
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>>130402153
get him on /pol/
instruct him to lurk for months before posting
instruct him to hide his powerlevel
Godspeed, anon. do your part to Make Italy Great Again
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>>130403959
That's because we had to deal with the Turks for centuries so we know about one or two things about muslims. Sorry to say but west eurofags are too pampered when it comes to muslims
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gmmmmmmm
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>>130409479
NEVER TRUST THE JEW
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