Why does the economy have to grow?

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>>130379850
for some reason humans need everything to grow. That is why Rome turned to absolute TRASH

>>130379850
All natives are already up to their ass in debt, new arrivals don't have any debt to their name so by lending them money you can keep the sinking ship afloat. Once they're saturated in debt you'll need to import more people and repeat the process.

If you went to a Dr and said you have a growth he would be concerned.
But somehow we need growth all the time as a society,
.

>>130379850
Growth and Inflation is where that sweet, sweet INTEREST happens in your bank account full of shekels, Goy.

>>130379850
>That's the excuse a lot of lefties use for importing boatloads of mudslimes and chinks

No, an unencumbered labor force is the wet dream of neoliberals.

>>130380194

This sounds really sustainable

>>130379850
Because if there is no promise of returns, nobody would be incentivized to invest their money.
It would probably be downward spiral from there.

>>130379850
If population is growing, then the economy will also have to grow. And stagnation is just overall bad. But why lefties believe that huge migration of shitskins will make economy grow is beyond me.

>>130380194
Increasing debt doesn't necessarily mean growth of the economy.

Because the economy is fake. If it doesn't keep growing, you can't maintain the illusion.

>>130380476
It's not, the point is when it finally collapses you're dead and other people/children are left holding the bag.

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>>130381024
noice

>>130380796
It does actually; western countries count debt in gdp calculations. So that's 1 dollar for making a thing and 1 dollar debt from buying a thing so gdp increased 2 dollar.

It's fucking retarded.

>>130379850

Because our modern economies are very similar to a Ponzi scheme.

It needs new entrants to feed the system.

As any other Ponzi scam, it will collapse.

>>130380416
Not really. Once the (((banks))) in America realized people only kept their money there for fear of being robbed they just developed a set interest rate that they kept lowering with the excuse of "oh well the economy isn't growing enough" or "oh people aren't borrowing enough money!" until the interest rates were so low they became totally irrelevant, then they just convienently forgot to ever raise the rates back up. Fuck banks, use Credit Unions. They're a bit less jewy about everything, like they tend to be more fair to people who take loans.

>>130379850
I don't care if the economy grows. We could grow the economy by legalizing child slavery, doesn't mean we should do it.
Yet we're destroying our society in the name of some vague concept rich people and people involved in investing have told us somehow matters.
I'd like for it to shrink. Less consumerism, less borrowing meaning lower rates so youmg people can actually buy homes. Fuck the economy, let it crash and burn.

>>130380721
Why is that bad? Just rely less on our jewed out monetary system. It's used only to subjigate us at this point, a Ukrainian of all people should understand this.we're just pawns in a massive (((scheme))). Good honest folk start getting rich? Dishonest jews will just manipulate their money with inflation or regulations. You can never win, ultimately you are only worth, according to the economy, how much labor you do to sustain their lifestyles.
Raise chickens for eggs. Plant a garden. Spend time with friends just talking and walking through the woods instead of going to bars or the cinema. Trade stuff, have yard sales and buy stuff from other peoples yard sales.

read up on the gold standard and fiat

The more old people there are the more younger people there needs to be to support them. Younger generation thinks they're too good for minimum wage zero-hour contacts so in come the immigrants.
Trump should have completely removed the ACA and given us 8 years of wild west no ruleshealth insurance and have the boomers all die off so they stop sucking up social security

>>130382505
Immigrants age too.

>>130379850
>Why does the economy have to grow?

When they say "The Economy has to grow" they mean the shareholder profits from corporations.

>>130382678
Which means you need to import even more of them to cover their pensions.

Welfare statism was a mistake.

>>130383133
So many of them are unemployed, or working illegally and not paying into anything but receiving everything.

>>130379850

If the economy doesn't grow, the S&P flatlines. Nobodies retirement will experience compounding, making a 401k plan useless. No one would ever retire.

>>130383413
>No one would ever retire.

Nobody can afford to anyway

growth-speculation-borrow-collapse-debt-owned

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Seems organic

>>130379850
PEOPLE HAVE KIDS YOU DUMB FUCK

>>130383413
>No one would ever retire.
no one who was dumb enough to trust a pyramid scheme you mean.

fucking boomers are literally LITERALLY destroying western civilization because they want to sit on their fat asses off of some crooked pyramid scheme when they get feeble and they NEED everyone to do the same so lets import millions of aliens to pay for it.

WHAT THE FUCK

>>130385598
normieproblems

>>130385598
>PEOPLE HAVE KIDS YOU DUMB FUCK

Just fuck off now and eat that last burger before major coronary failure.

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>>130385994
>economy of x
>population of y
>resources required/economic value z

>population growth y * a
>resources required ????
>economy size ????